aic-factory

[nova osprey]

14th

[keen river]

14th unlocks new map and likely the final rubber thingy is in it

[zinc river]

FAHHHH

aight thanks ya'll

[keen river]

next week is AIC event, then week after we get the new umbral monument and another week after the new map

[nova osprey]

final rubber thingy? xD

[zinc river]

I also just realized we're in the final tier in wuling

[keen river]

we are missing last rubber thingy for last tech in wuling tree

[nova osprey]

oh yeah

[keen river]

but its not even there yet, probably to prevent you from getting the final forges too early

[ruby sorrel]

but the xiranite upgrades aren't even shown until you unlock them in story

[keen river]

yeah

[iron stratus]

there isnt a point to 4 more forges right now though

[keen river]

we will probably need to play through some story in test region

[iron stratus]

besides heavy xira which is only good for the new outpost

[keen river]

it will double your heavy xiranite, but thats about it

[ruby sorrel]

they showed us the funny xiranite tree in the promo stuff

so it's probably something we have to feed with heavy xira

[keen river]

there is also the item thingy you slot into outposts

not sure if i can find it 🤔

this

ah i guess this is the item for the event and you trade it that way

so it gives you event credits AND the stocks?

[ruby sorrel]

idk I figure that's just the altruism token thing

[keen river]

we will see soon enough

[delicate seal]

Can you help me. I'd like to make xircon from the left over Ferrium powder. Does my calculation right and do we use 22.5 ferrium powder for hetonite? If it is right I can use 7,5 for xircone.

[unique forge]

any blueprints for xiranite production that use 2 forges of the sky?

[marble shale]

why do you want a single BP with 2 forges of the sky? Is there some benefit over just stacking two self-contained BPs with a single forge next to each other?

[unique forge]

i have 2 forges of the sky left and my xiranite production is not keeping up with other facilities

[marble shale]

How about stacking two of those next to each other? EFO011ea089uE2UaU34O7

[unique forge]

yeah that works

also im kinda stuck on this

[tall tangle]

for reference mine. no pipe spaghetti, but kinda big

[ruby sorrel]

the heck are those pipes doing

[unique forge]

still setting it up tbh

losing my head

[ruby sorrel]

why do you have a 1/3 split out of that outlet anyways

[unique forge]

wdym

[mortal hemlock]

58 million

[ruby sorrel]

onvm that's a bridge

hard to tell with empty pipes

[tall tangle]

there is a lot. i find this most funny

[mortal hemlock]

thats just space saving tecb iirc

[ruby sorrel]

looks functional

yeah but with fac limit no point doing it 99% of the time

[unique forge]

question the blueprint's author smh

[tall tangle]

meanwhile getting closer to facility limit

[ruby sorrel]

just have to hook up the water

[upper fiber]

wonder how a pump can't supply 2 refiners

[tall tangle]

sorry, thought that was you playing the game. it's funny regardless even if that was someone else

[unique forge]

now that only hurts me more ;_;

[uneven aspen]

yup good for these situations

[void owl]

how do i farm this?

[hoary crag]

automatically, you don't

you have to use yazhen plots in the manual farm on northeast of wuling core aic

[tall tangle]

or walk around and gather, which is faster imo

[hoary crag]

^^

the cave in the marker stone area has a lot of it

[unique forge]

i found out that outlet was placed as replacement lol

for water

[pulsar willow]

?

[unique forge]

i assumed it was a water treatment unit

cause they look the same on top

[pulsar willow]

ah, okay

you can also remove the pylons near the depot, they are useless lol

(on my screenshot I mean)

[unique forge]

if only i could just place sledgehammer mortars anywhere i please

[subtle finch]

my collections

[pulsar willow]

why can't you?

[unique forge]

i mean like in boss fights and etc.

[upper fiber]

that's arknight towerfield

[hoary crag]

nice

[pulsar willow]

top right is the most cool looking

[hoary crag]

fr

also like the limit

[subtle finch]

the bottom right is just the prefill safe version of that

[brisk wasp]

i'm confused as to why i see a lot of people saying we're bottlenecked by xiranite meanwhile here i am complaining about cuprium and having 30/min worth of xiranite being unused

[crimson inlet]

dang, it looks like an actual water treatment center

[void owl]

HOW IS HETONITE PARTS LESS EXPENSIVE THEAN SC? SC IS LITERALY EASIRE TO MAKE THAN HETONITE PARTS

[crimson inlet]

same

I literally have a forge not in use

[brisk wasp]

i'm just selling the excess xiranite

[crimson inlet]

PLEASE GIVE US THIS WULFGUARD BACK, I'M WILLING TO MAKE COMPS FOR HIM

[crimson inlet]

I wish we can use the excess xiranite for heavy xiranite, but 3 forges seemed enough for it

[brisk wasp]

you don't even need 3 forges for heavy xiranite, just pull inert xircon effluent from your xircon production lines, plug them into a purifier and feed that into your heavy xiranite forge

[vivid spade]

Does liquid heavy xiranite also work against blight in previous regions of wuling?or only liquid xiranite works there?

[crimson inlet]

nah, I'm using the 2 forges for directly feeding xiranite to the 3rd forge while the inert is pulled from the SC production

[crimson inlet]

Does it make clearing the blight much easier ?

[vivid spade]

I do not have any clue about that

[brisk wasp]

i'm one of those weirdos that doesn't like cramming everything into a single line

[crimson inlet]

I crammed all my normal xira production on a single line

and crammed my batteries at the opposite side

[crimson inlet]

gimme my AK-weilding Lupo back

[brisk wasp]

one side of my main AIC is literally lined with stabilized carbon facilities then on the opposite side feeding from depots is the xiranite forges

[hoary crag]

imagine

imagine like if we actually get to see lateran sanktas in endfield

[tall tangle]

or atleast damn crossbows, not akimbo plastic toys

[hoary crag]

I wonder how would they make them use their weapons, since most of them pretty much use larger guns

they'd probably treat it the same way as the leek's sword

not her actual equipped weapon but she does get to use it a lot

[shadow void]

Or just add a new weapon type?

[tall tangle]

they'll just make all sankta melee. we have 1 already

[tall tangle]

aint gonna happen

[brisk wasp]

not all lateran sanktas use large guns though, Exusiai in AK uses a Vector, only on her alter does she use the massive whatever the hell, Executor also uses two Model 1887s

plus the pope uses a revolver

[ruby sorrel]

just have weird production numbers to get rid of everything, ig with overproduction it still means deleting things eventually

[tall tangle]

various things none the less. not dual pistols. weapon progression system decisionmaker did game a bad favor

[hoary crag]

what I meant by 'larger guns' is that it's not just a handgun or similar

[crimson inlet]

I hate handcannons

give us more conventional rifles

[hoary crag]

cuz yeah it'd also make sense if they're to add rifles as a new weapon type

[regal horizon]

max hetonite parts rn? i wanna make 500 artillery

[hoary crag]

we have swords and greatswords being separate already

[hoary crag]

a little under 6/min

[regal horizon]

that suck balls

[valid gazelle]

good morning endfielders

[valid gazelle]

me when the ratio is so damn off

[brisk wasp]

i mean one way they could implement non-handgun type weapons is to just put them under Arts Unit category and have said Arts units act like an auxiliary assistance drone similar to Executor the Ex Foedere in Arknights

[hoary crag]

who knows ig?

they somehow decided to give zhuang an arts unit rather than making her sword her actual weapon

[valid gazelle]

ye we were bamboozled

was expecting a greatsword ngl..

allow me to introduce to you

acid snek 🐍

[regal horizon]

too many pipes

[valid gazelle]

and strawberry snek 🐍

[hoary crag]

imagine

oh yeah right I forgot

[regal horizon]

im finna go bring the acid from new sub aic to main

[hoary crag]

I need to have my last forge make heavy xir today

[regal horizon]

we getting more forge and new map in may 15?

[hoary crag]

yup

[brisk wasp]

just run conduits from the small pool in the edge of wuling city to the main AIC

[hoary crag]

wait is it may 15? but yeah we'll be getting a new area and +4 forges

[regal horizon]

weird why they didnt add it last week?

[tall tangle]

it's funny that we have big acid lake and'll ever need at most 4 pumps

[hoary crag]

who knows?

[regal horizon]

so its the phase 2 of 1.2

[pulsar willow]

300 acid? Why?

I only see you use 240 at most, do you bottle it as well?

[crude pulsar]

brah, it happened again, i even moved the converger down a bit

[swift steppe]

I really don't trust convergers when it comes to Cuprium sewage, something about it gets wonky.

[crude pulsar]

somehow putting sewage pipe and water close enough together makes the output changes into a water, somehow?

yeah, honestly

[valid gazelle]

hmm ?

[keen river]

Are you sure you didnt have some residual water in the pipe or merger?

[pulsar willow]

I see five acid pumps 5*60=300

[bright zodiac]

well, hetonite atm only took 3full acid pump (it even has excess bcs its still 22.5 not 30)

means, u have 3more unused acid pump

[keen river]

Its not really a surprise it happened if the merger and splitter wre next to each other

[bright zodiac]

i see 6

[crude pulsar]

i rebuilt it again yesterday so it shouldnt

but i can do that again and see tomorrow.... i guess

[pulsar willow]

one is fluid supply unit

[keen river]

🤔

Thats weird

[bright zodiac]

[valid gazelle]

[crude pulsar]

let's see tomorrow and if it still happen then its bug report time i guess

[keen river]

Yeah

[valid gazelle]

i dont recycle acid so that explains the fluid supply unit and the extra pump from 3 to 4

[keen river]

I would delete the merger, pipe from it and the sewage treatment plant and rebuild those for sure

[valid gazelle]

the extra pump is for bottling heavy xyranite

[keen river]

I have seen some fluid get stuck in the merger before

[valid gazelle]

bro... it took me half an hour to fix my system because a wrong fuild kept recycling around the mergers

[pulsar willow]

I mean you still only use 240 if you use 8 reactor crucibles

[valid gazelle]

idk the flow rate of the pump so i assumed 1 pump = 2 crucibles

so 8 = 4 pumps

[keen river]

Yeah, sounds about right

[pulsar willow]

I see 5 pumps?

[valid gazelle]

[pulsar willow]

so one is useless? Or you use it for something else?

[valid gazelle]

huh..

ermm im using 4 for hetonite so one extra is 5

and you are looking at 5 pumps...

which one is useless.. ?

im a bit confused here

[pulsar willow]

yeah I am confused too

okay let me rephrase that

where do you use the 5th acid pump

that is connected to the conduit

[valid gazelle]

on the crucible that liquifies heavy xyranite

at the bottling station

[ancient charm]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[regal horizon]

rn in my stock i have an item with 400 price

when i sell it its 1,300%+

oh its in wuling too

[iron stratus]

hopefully we'll have some way to make the wuling comps in future regions once we start needing to choose which factories are turned on

[valid gazelle]

by then we would have new comps in said newer regions and we just need to run the 2 latest regions

[iron stratus]

only if they release gear with the same stats but different comps

which i doubt they will

we'd most likely need to produce old pieces

[glossy sequoia]

im having wuling bills left over, what end products are you guys making to clear out entire stock currency ?

[valid gazelle]

but by then newer operators will be using newer gears which again bakes back to the topic of needing newer gears more than older gears

[iron stratus]

12 sc 4.5 heto parts 6 heavy xira

[glossy sequoia]

no yazhen A solution ?

[iron stratus]

heto parts are better

[valid gazelle]

both are the same. just to your preference

[iron stratus]

it makes about 9% more bills iirc

[valid gazelle]

no

[iron stratus]

more power though

[valid gazelle]

the difference is in power consumption

and that's pretty much it

[iron stratus]

is yazhen a not 22/u

[valid gazelle]

we cant even run a full heto part line or double yazhen lines cuz 180

[valid gazelle]

it takes you longer to make heto parts

proficiency is the same, just yazhen is more power hungry

[iron stratus]

180 cuprium makes 4.5 heto parts or 9 yazhen a but heto parts are 2.18x more valuable so why wouldnt it be better

[valid gazelle]

aight let's do math ~

[glossy sequoia]

bro where are you using ferrium ore, other than for making dense originiium powder ?

are you making any sc valley battery in the side ?

[valid gazelle]

eh ? dense originium doesnt use ferrium

[glossy sequoia]

oh fk forgot

[iron stratus]

yazhen c

[glossy sequoia]

thx now i have a good idea on what to set up

[worthy condor]

Well, I did the blueprints and then when I finished I guess I had to have the factory closer to the water so I just wasted a bunch of time. Soooo, I’m gonna be done with this game. Too time investing with this factory stuff! It was nice meeting everyone though! 🙂

[warped delta]

You could always use blueprints if you don't have time to figure it all out on your own. If that's still too much time then oh well, hope you had some fun in the meantime. Maybe take a look at Shapez2 which just released 😏

[warped delta]

Older chars will be able to use newer gear, so it probably won't be an issue

[iron stratus]

i know they arent stupid enough to add buffed versions of gear with the exact same stats but higher values, so it would either be cosmetic or tailored to specific niches

[tough berry]

for debate of yan vs heto here full one 9 yan + 1 old potion vs 4.5 heto break point here is heto need double manual transfer of ferium powder + originium cube while potion only need originium cube if you do 13.5 battery if no 13.5 then its 9 potion + 3 old potion vs heto 4.5 rolls lazyly

[iron stratus]

of course this would only be the problem after releasing perfect stat sets for every character

[tough berry]

i think next region though gonna be lv 80 to 90 gear which there be extra 1 unlock in our lv list uwu

[iron stratus]

they might try to make that a bit more exclusive than via comps

[tough berry]

spesking of perfect stats when will they give my last rite an armor with right stats and cyro bonus lel

[warped delta]

I mean, unless they start getting hyper specific in gear, it's natural for there to be similar sets just with higher stats. That's basically all rpgs lol

[iron stratus]

but it's unnecessary

it makes it much harder for new players to do endgame modes when they start powerscaling

[ancient wagon]

WULING FACTORY TIME

[iron stratus]

welcome to heaven

or purgatory

[ancient wagon]

I couldve gotten here 2 days ago but I did a bunch of side missions first

Except isn't there liquids now

I don't want to deal with that

And I just got my power situation figured out in valley4 😭😭

[sick basin]

Ye and they are everything
No pipes = u aint making shit

[iron stratus]

don't worry it's terrible to work with pipes

[ancient wagon]

Noooooo

[iron stratus]

splitter mechanics will get you an inch from quitting the game

[ancient wagon]

I'm scared

Ill figure it out eventually

[tough berry]

dont worry of power scalling much

trust hg

even old ak oldest unit can clear latest stuff they can handle endfield power scaling fine

[wispy grove]

solo catcher

solo ardelia

[ancient wagon]

What

[wispy grove]

someone was crazy enough to trim bosses solo

[frigid dirge]

what

[ancient wagon]

Idk what this means but its probably hard

[frigid dirge]

under 3min?

[ancient wagon]

FIRST TELE POINT

[ancient wagon]

This is so funny

[wispy grove]

kill boss under 2min

[ancient wagon]

Ohhh

[frigid dirge]

how tf with a healer

[wispy grove]

it depends on the boss

the first boss is 2 mins

[ancient wagon]

Shes pretty strong

[frigid dirge]

but yeah

but the boss is lvl90

and how

[ancient wagon]

I almost beat the last 2 stages of triaggelos with her

[ancient wagon]

Woah

[frigid dirge]

don't tell me that one is lvl60

or 75

[ancient wagon]

I like this chat a lot more, its more chill than #endfield

Even if its technically only for factory stuff

[frigid dirge]

yes it's

[wispy grove]

hows yall factory?

[frigid dirge]

still unpower

[ancient wagon]

My valley 4 one is making lots of batteries, I could probably hit 2k power

[frigid dirge]

im playing warthunder instead

gonna build my base after a few more round

[silent canyon]

Man these hetonite gear components craft really slow

I just wanna gear my ZF

[frigid dirge]

180 and yes it's

[ancient wagon]

Sounds so funn

You cant wait to get better gear, my team is rocking blue gear at lvl 60

Can you access the v4 depot from wuling?

[silent canyon]

Theoretically to craft Hetonite gear components at 6/min, you'd need 480 cuprium/min
There's only 180/min in the game right now

[tepid spade]

u can temporarily stop making syringe and all in on hetonite for like an hour or so

and it will be done

[wheat forum]

Nah, you gotta access it either from Dijiang or visit it yourself

[ancient wagon]

Awh :( all my healing stuff is there

[frigid dirge]

so u need to turn all off to stack cuprium and turn on it back

[wheat forum]

U can produce meds locally. Wuling meds are more effective than V4 ones

[tepid spade]

or just build that 6/min and turn it off after having 150 lol

it’s not gonna eat 68k cuprium

[wheat forum]

With Item Control Port ofc

[twilit shard]

Your healing items will get replaced if you just got to wuling

[undone pagoda]

Alright for everyone that’s used Kyostinv’s wuling entire blueprint, how is that going? Worth redoing my entire AIC to his blueprints?

[ancient wagon]

I don't feel like making new meds :(

[ruby sorrel]

do you hate building so much?

[silent canyon]

Just make your own blueprints of your current base

In case you need to undo something

[ruby sorrel]

guy literally wants you to put plants in a dozen buildings and run a bunch of conduits

that's way too much fkn effort

[undone pagoda]

Yeah I’m going to make my own blueprints of my current setups ofc before I do

[vale topaz]

shredding basic jincao or yanzhen already improvrment over buck a/citrome a

[undone pagoda]

Wuling AIC is very overwhelming for me as an autistic person so I have a hard Time right now trying to get the new hetonite stuff

[ancient wagon]

Ill do it eventually ig

[twilit shard]

Grade A buck capsule heals less than Yahzen Syringe

[silent canyon]

When you get to wuling I don't even use the factory produced medicine. Just farm fluffy jincao or thorny yahzen and use the raw powder

[ancient wagon]

I'm really unexcited to make a whole new factory

[undone pagoda]

Valley 4 is my own blueprints currently as I think it’s been functioning really well

[ruby sorrel]

just use it then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twilit shard]

No. Buck A is slightly better but only by 15hp

[silent canyon]

I honestly think the complexity of Hetonite is overstated

It's not that bad

I didn't use any guides, built my setup in 30 min

[undone pagoda]

It’s just the fact it needsSOOOO many forges

For it to even be slightly productive

[twilit shard]

I honestly think the Wuling factory is more fun because it’s more dynamic
My issue is you need so many more factories in a single line

[silent canyon]

I just made a small one that only uses the new forges available to you without dismantling your old ones

[ruby sorrel]

if your brain shuts off at the thought of doing stuff then just copy the guy's factory

[ancient wagon]

I hate long lines

[twilit shard]

Like just to make second Wuling battery at 100% efficiency

[silent canyon]

So my new base is 4 forges, 3 for Xiranite and 1 for heavy
With 2 cuprium refiners

[twilit shard]

It’s HORRENDOUS

3 hours it took me to make that

[ancient wagon]

Is ardishir a bad guy
He seems evil

[ancient wagon]

What the heck

[vale topaz]

its the space and energy requirement.
for efficient output : 7 crucible + 1 expanded + 2 purification.
which are very costly

[undone pagoda]

It doesn’t shut off, I just get overwhelmed and I really need hetonite for zhuang. I legit have her maxed out at 90 with all her talents at 9 but has legit no gear

[frigid dirge]

im using 7 xiranite forge

so many sandleaf needed

[twilit shard]

Don’t worry, the first battery is much simpler. Same with the healing items.

[valid gazelle]

so much sandleaf overflowing...

[silent canyon]

I mean I just made a blueprint that is a self contained sandleaf farm and Xiranite producer

[undone pagoda]

I do really like the idea of having movable depot busses tho

[silent canyon]

And copy pasted it

[vale topaz]

preach the sandleaf god or your base run out of energy !!!!

[silent canyon]

Using your own blueprints as modular building blocks is the way to build fast

[ruby sorrel]

I don't see how that's different but sure, the comps still aren't going to make themselves

[valid gazelle]

uhm guys

hear me out

if sandleaf improves all materials...

[twilit shard]

Fastest way to build yes, the most compact? yeah I think not

[vale topaz]

true, can model your base like a cupboard

[valid gazelle]

we should grind hetonite and combine it with sandleaf to make super hetonite

10/10 idea

[vale topaz]

hetonite cube !!!!

[frigid dirge]

actually my base does run out of power

[silent canyon]

True, but this game gives you enough space that tileable blueprints are effective enough

[valid gazelle]

compact enough

[twilit shard]

You sweet sweet summer babies

[astral locust]

Use the kyostinv factory

For hetonite

[twilit shard]

You both have no idea

[silent canyon]

This game does not demand 100% space efficiency

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[ruby sorrel]

you just need reasonably small not the most amazing layout ever

[valid gazelle]

^^^^^^^

[ruby sorrel]

I literally just run belts from one end of the factory area to the other end for fun

[vale topaz]

to each player on their own.
the aic is a painting canvas.
just do whatever your mind enjoy doing it.
as long as it produce stuff and not run out of energy

[undone pagoda]

Lowkey I feel like I’m being called stupid for wanting to use someone else’s blueprint

[silent canyon]

I like making my tileable blueprints and it's easy to unbuild and rebiild parts of my own factory

[twilit shard]

this upsets me for 2 reasons

[undone pagoda]

SHREDDING

[silent canyon]

A handmade super space efficient design is really hard to modify without undoing the whole thing

[undone pagoda]

Or refinement unit

[vale topaz]

refinery and shredder

[valid gazelle]

let's say aic is also a fun part of the game and you have a choice to do it or have someone else do it

[golden stump]

Y'all wrong btw

[valid gazelle]

damn

enlighten us

[twilit shard]

I won't tell anyone how to play the game, I like things compact. I've played Factorio.

[undone pagoda]

Fr what is it then

[vale topaz]

are you a day 1 player ?

[golden stump]

It's the pylon

[silent canyon]

Factorio is literally a game with infinite space

[undone pagoda]

Yes I was registered for the release and all

[undone pagoda]

Relay tower actually

[golden stump]

Statically there are more Pylon then Relay

[valid gazelle]

no the amount of pylons you use is abnormally high

that is factually correct

[ruby sorrel]

need additional pylons

[silent canyon]

The advice given to new factorio plays is always
Build big, give room for additions

[undone pagoda]

Interesting

[golden stump]

In 100m you can have like 2 relay but 5 pylon

[vale topaz]

hmm, you should not get rushed.
and have enough time to slowly ramp up aic content....
well just need longer to adapt anyway.
soon or later, you'll make your own template

[golden stump]

[valid gazelle]

i like this

esp modular build mindset

[undone pagoda]

Eventually I’ll get a hang of it, like I did with V4 factory, that’s all made scratch by me

[vale topaz]

[golden stump]

[silent canyon]

I recently started a new playthrough of Satisfactory where instead of handbuilding most of my factories, I designed blueprints of "rooms" that I can place in my factory modularly

[valid gazelle]

funny enough.. my LC production cant support this

[twilit shard]

pretty much. you learn later how to make things compact

[vale topaz]

well its true no pylon or relay, no production mining or zipline....

[undone pagoda]

Mining requires the pylons so

[valid gazelle]

factory building requires pylons, lots of it

[undone pagoda]

I wish they made the pylons electricity range slightly bigger I’d be able to fit all my mining ones in one

[golden stump]

Every facility needs pylon

[vale topaz]

our brain too wired to aic content and forgetting those relay / pylon tower

[valid gazelle]

oh no i definitely feel you on that one

[golden stump]

No Pylon no factory

[valid gazelle]

missing that 1 tile range

[golden stump]

No factory no life

[undone pagoda]

DEADASS

[silent canyon]

I wish building outside of factory zones like for making defenses was easier

[valid gazelle]

or you can use relay towers as decoration

[golden stump]

Me when I used 3 pylons for 4 mining rigs

[twilit shard]

me trying to set something compact up just to be told no by the pylon and having to rebuild that entire section. it SUCKS.

[silent canyon]

Building the sprinklers for the farm and sentries for the alluviums was so tedius without topdown view

[valid gazelle]

me when my 2x2 square is occupied by a corner of the conveyor

[wheat forum]

We are Endfielders
We do Endfield stuff
AIC Factory is Endfield stuff
So us Endfielders do AIC Factory as well

[vale topaz]

shredding sandleaf manually.....

[undone pagoda]

So glad I don’t have to make different explosives I just have the one line running and have 58k or something now

[twilit shard]

I wanted to put a pylon there but noooo there's something in the wayyyyyyyy

[golden stump]

Sand leaf propaganda

[vale topaz]

it's the sandleaf truth

[golden stump]

Next region will remove sandleaf

We will have rockleaf

[vale topaz]

noooooo

[silent canyon]

Wonder if there's gonna be a region where eventually there's no ore auto upload and you gotta build transportation logistics like trucks and trains

[wheat forum]

New Wuling stuff doesn't rely on Sandleaves anymore

[undone pagoda]

Don’t give them ideas

[valid gazelle]

[golden stump]

Nah

[twilit shard]

ahem
xiranite

[golden stump]

Cus he metastorage work

[valid gazelle]

bro forgot new stuffs requires SIRcon which requires xyranite which requires sandleaf

[golden stump]

They got put into the AU

[wheat forum]

Xiranite is Old Wuling stuff

[golden stump]

Then go out from depot

[twilit shard]

and is still relevant

[golden stump]

It's lore stuff

[valid gazelle]

can you make new wuling stuffs WITHOUT old wuling stuffs ?

[golden stump]

You still need xiranite

[valid gazelle]

exactly

[wheat forum]

Cuprium stuff

[sick basin]

Bro forgot sandleaf is the most important mat in the game

[frigid dirge]

all the new stuff need xiranite

[valid gazelle]

xyranite is like the core of wuling

[golden stump]

Me when my heavy xiranite is just heavy

[valid gazelle]

[golden stump]

Cus no xiranite

[valid gazelle]

no matter where you look at it,

[sick basin]

The only "new stuff" u can make is hetonite thaat doesnt need sandleaf
But thats where it ends

[golden stump]

Sandleaf is the core of everything

[valid gazelle]

damn

the sandleaf truthful propaganda

[vale topaz]

i forgot, does hydro mining rig require xiranite ?

[golden stump]

It's propaganda really

Cus Originium is the true core of everything

[valid gazelle]

the ministry of truth shall investigate your behavior

[frigid dirge]

even dense originium powder need sandleaf to make battery

[vale topaz]

its endfield lithium

[frigid dirge]

[twilit shard]

water

[sick basin]

It needs pumps, which need to be powered, which needs pylons, which need xiranite to make

[golden stump]

Yeah but without Originium you can't make mining rigs

[sick basin]

[valid gazelle]

or..

you can wire it yourself

[vale topaz]

no, to craft the rig

[valid gazelle]

[vale topaz]

i frogot if it was xiranite or steel part

[sick basin]

Im not using v4 stuff in wuling
What am i, some ape

[twilit shard]

ferrium parts

[vale topaz]

ah

[golden stump]

Underground waterline

[frigid dirge]

so yeah

[twilit shard]

oh hydro rig. no. cupprium parts

[golden stump]

[frigid dirge]

all the thing -> power -> sandleaf -> originium

[ancient wagon]

HOW THE HECK DID I JUST FIND OUT You CAN BUY HEADHUNT PERMITD IN THE STOCK REDISTROBUTION

[twilit shard]

this guy

[ancient wagon]

IVE BEEN IN DEBT SINCE I COULDNT GET ENOUGH RED THINGS

[sacred garden]

Hi i am arknights endfield fan

[twilit shard]

what are we doin bro

[golden stump]

The humble seed picking unit shame every other unit

[golden stump]

[sacred garden]

I got Zhuang Fangyi

[frigid dirge]

after upgrade it

[ancient wagon]

I don't even knoww

[valid gazelle]

bro ..

[sacred garden]

Hello?

[valid gazelle]

do you know credits can also by oroberyls

[ancient wagon]

Hella expensive but worth it

[twilit shard]

welcome to the chat with all the Factorio lovers

[valid gazelle]

its a one time thing

[twilit shard]

one time unfortunately

[sacred garden]

Okay

[undone current]

ignore him, spammer

[sacred garden]

Thanks

[ancient wagon]

I think i mightve done that

[sacred garden]

No

[ancient wagon]

For some reason my whole stock redistribution is on sale

[valid gazelle]

stock market crashed

[waxen aurora]

why does this guy love sending gifs with every msg

[valid gazelle]

[twilit shard]

trust me

[undone current]

damn bro, ur gif so shit

[valid gazelle]

what are you guys talking about

[valid gazelle]

[sacred garden]

Because you guys are good and i using meme invincible

[valid gazelle]

discord is handy, use it

[twilit shard]

I remember seeing Josh play this and oh my god I HATED how they made their factory

[ancient wagon]

Fine with me, id never be able to afford this stuff otherwise

[frigid dirge]

whos josh

[vale topaz]

it is the plantation which is a miracle.
growing stuff in 2 seconds

[sacred garden]

Okay i get it

[valid gazelle]

endfield put some time manipulation dark magic in that thing

istg

[iron stratus]

the guy who runs the let's game it out channel

[golden stump]

Nah the seed picking unit duping glitch is broken

[valid gazelle]

but i find it weird tho..

[sacred garden]

This fine

[valid gazelle]

how does 1 plant have only 1 or 2 seed

[frigid dirge]

what

[golden stump]

Talos has its own rule

[iron stratus]

look it up on youtube

[waxen aurora]

the fact that it gives 2 seeds is already broken enough

[frigid dirge]

great bro

[twilit shard]

like wtf is that

[waxen aurora]

more seeds given wouldnt be necessary

[iron stratus]

what did you expect

[valid gazelle]

it would be funny if it floods our factories with seeds

[iron stratus]

he was gonna make it nice and orderly as always

[marble yarrow]

mid

[twilit shard]

absolutely not

[undone current]

w8 until we have ingame sorting system n see 1 plant give multiple output

[valid gazelle]

this base is the most beautiful base ive ever seen

[frigid dirge]

what

[valid gazelle]

it is just.. spectacular

[twilit shard]

after I figured out that they were the one person who made that horrid creation in Raft I was sitting there like

[iron stratus]

let's make uranium reactors in region 3

[twilit shard]

anything that can go wrong WILL go wrong

[frigid dirge]

bro like what tf is that, it just a bunch of pipe line

[undone current]

bruh, manual piping from new area to wuling city

[valid gazelle]

i was wondering if we were gonna get anything radioactive .. but isnt originium radioactive already

[frigid dirge]

so we need a reactor

[undone current]

well, we sell them drugs to supress originium dat we clearly planted

[twilit shard]

I'm so good at making things compact

[frigid dirge]

oh yeah, they should adding making our own rocket ship

[valid gazelle]

that's the whole point of RI

[vale topaz]

and we are selling refined originium into the 1st sub base at v4 where its civilian have oripathy.... and in dire need of more serum

[vital narwhal]

Laughing now but soon we'll be piping sewage all the way to test area..

[golden stump]

This is bad cus all the heat aren't being dispensed properly

[undone current]

its technically a scam company

[golden stump]

[valid gazelle]

sell the problem- with solution and charges extra

[twilit shard]

I havent't gotten to 1.2 stuff yet

[vale topaz]

scamfield industry

[twilit shard]

is there a heat mechanic?

[undone current]

ill take inlet outlet spam

[iron stratus]

no

[golden stump]

[rustic flint]

anyone have a no upg blueprint for wuling

[valid gazelle]

damn then this is a meltdown centre then

[twilit shard]

wut

[undone current]

nah, we will never get meltdown

[valid gazelle]

that's right cuz now we have D96

3 times stronger than D32

👍

[rustic flint]

0 upgrade to the aic

[vale topaz]

in b4 3rd region adding gas.

[undone current]

leaking gas

sublimation line

[small creek]

Pipes are already capable of transferring gas, we just dont have gas yet

Its just a matter of time

[vale topaz]

cuprium become the real copium

[iron stratus]

i remember someone saying the 2 region limit on factories was due to technical constraints but im wondering if that's true at all

[valid gazelle]

copium gas ???

where can i sign up

[twilit shard]

wait why do I only have 90 Ferrium per minute and not 120?

[undone current]

we don't know gas mechanic

[twilit shard]

this isn't just me is it?

[undone current]

wuling? its 90 ferro

[golden stump]

D67

[valid gazelle]

[vale topaz]

dont think they ever talked about the real reason.
could be related to RAM price.
or other hardware issue

[valid gazelle]

nah man its ram issue

[vale topaz]

wuling max ferium is 90 sadly

[valid gazelle]

ram here is already expensive and scarce imagine ram in space

[valid gazelle]

those astronaunts in the iss only have 128 gigs

[iron stratus]

they can afford the ram

[frigid dirge]

wait can yall craft this thing?

[vale topaz]

can afford and willing to afford are different.

[waxen aurora]

no

[twilit shard]

I hate that SO MUCH

[vale topaz]

well, the current hetonite line won't use 30 ferrium output.
let say you only use 5 crucible formation
that leave 1 whole cuprium output into yazhen a and with ferrium meta transfer into yazhen / jincao c.

[ancient wagon]

I already hate liquid and all I have to do is pick up lake water with a bottle to make a bridge work

[twilit shard]

that's horrible

[ancient wagon]

Ive only used sanity one time in my whole time playing 😭🙏

[iron stratus]

and then what

you stayed at level 60 chars

[vale topaz]

yeah, not optimal solution since wuling map come 1 by 1.
so each new patch = adapt

[frigid dirge]

well now we have 2 by the quest and the month pass

[ancient wagon]

Sad, I havent had to use sanity for anything except one quest

[undone current]

if u play since opening, 2+ team already possible

[frigid dirge]

u need t-cred and stuff tho

[iron stratus]

can you also fully artifice all 8 of them without luck

[vale topaz]

uhh daily always give limited sanity potion, so every week you should get a day with expire date warning.....

[ancient wagon]

Ive been getting plenty

[iron stratus]

you can make so much more than 2 teams to par if you've been grinding since day 1

[undone current]

u don't need all artif

[iron stratus]

unless you mean fully fully built then yeah maybe only 2 max

[undone current]

but for sure u can m12 2+ op right now

[iron stratus]

there's been around 120 marks though hasnt there

[twilit shard]

I got what Mi Fu calls stupid kitty, so I built an ice team

[iron stratus]

that's 5 m12 characters

[undone current]

i mean other reso like mastery material n protohedron

[iron stratus]

excluding bond quota exchange which would obviously be like infinite

[iron stratus]

there's more of those mats available than marks of perseverance needed

[undone current]

well yeah

anyway i say 2+ team cause data my current team, i know some dude already do 4 team

[twilit shard]

I don't need to put strong gear on supports or defenders. only DPS and sub DPS

[iron stratus]

i have a rossi, phys, laev, lr, avy, yvonne, and about to finish a zhuang team f2p

[undone current]

u do need at some level but not on minmax like ur mdps/sub get

[iron stratus]

all can trim marble

[vale topaz]

waiting fang yi weapon banner to near end before trying to pull her weapon.
in case weapon shop sell that chainsaw sword.

[iron stratus]

thermite?

or the greatsword

[undone current]

chainsaw should be ff

[vale topaz]

i guess that's the name ? i dont memorize name that much.
heard it is the recommended for pog

[iron stratus]

so the greatsword right

[unreal laurel]

science

[undone current]

oh thermite yeah

tho u can always use nr/fortmaker for him

[vale topaz]

lol, without picture or at front of pc, i have 0 idea about the weapon name

[iron stratus]

you have to use nr on pog for the aura

[undone current]

if its pog, its thermite

[vale topaz]

sry, really cannot memorize the weapon catalog

[wispy grove]

w8

this is aic channel

[wispy grove]

why is thermite better than never rest?

[undone current]

iirc its raw atk vs dmg bonus

[wispy grove]

p0vs p0 or at p5?

[undone current]

no idea the details

[warped delta]

I gave my pog eminent repute bc he's with rossi

[wispy grove]

eminent have higher atk team bonus lmao

[warped delta]

It provides a similar buff strength to perlica

[vale topaz]

yeah waiting this one at weapon shop.
or after i managed to create another 2.9k weapon pull for safety net before start pulling fang yi weapon

[warped delta]

I want to try to trim Nef with that team, but I need to practice the rotation a lot more bc it's rather particular and ive been mostly button mashing so far lol

[ruby sorrel]

let me make arsenal tokens in aic pls

[vale topaz]

doubt this one will enter 2.9k purchase list anytime soon.... so have to ditch it

[warped delta]

Game threw Reputes at me while getting Fangyi's weapon, so I have P5 now

Every 6star until pity for the Lone Barge was Repute

[undone current]

pog rossie literally have different gear lmao

[vale topaz]

sad cannot recruit tang tang.
really want to make a triplet out of fang yi / mifu / tang tang team.... even if that probably won't work well

[frigid dirge]

wait, can some one check which output did acid go out in purification unit

yellow one?

[vale topaz]

if you turn the output to the right side, acid is top one

[undone current]

this one?

[wispy grove]

never rest seem to lean more on pog's personal dmg with a lil bit of team buff

[vale topaz]

yea, the orange port for acid at hetonite stuff

[warped delta]

Ahh yes, the "lmao crowd" that parrots some guide they read and proclaims to be experts.
Protip: It doesn't matter most of the time. There are plenty of team comps that can trim bosses.
P5 Repute you're providing like 24% ATK buff and good supporting dmg and I still have akekuri to provide elemental infliction on demand

[vale topaz]

top acid, bottom hetonite liquid

[vale topaz]

this unit should have its ouput costomiza able : /

[warped delta]

Yeah I'm mildly annoyed you can't choose which output ports the purification uses

[upper fiber]

devs doing their things to piss off players

[warped delta]

Especially since normally it's more aesthetic to match the yellow-orange acid with the yellow output and the red-orange het fluid with the yellow

[marble yarrow]

space created

[wispy grove]

how did you made that b&w?

[marble yarrow]

reduced graphics in settings

[wispy grove]

oh okee

[warped delta]

Got done with the main story today. Probably gonna sandbag for a week or two now to play Shapez2 and Pragmata

[vale topaz]

does enkad design have problem with bridge / converger / splitter ? always bugged with unable to prpduce output after such unit

[warped delta]

Then come back to it to finish the side quests etc.

[marble yarrow]

everything seems to work great. the production values mimics my ingame one

[frigid dirge]

boi, im over heated now

[undone current]

1 super base?

[marble yarrow]

(tho still no meta storage transfer so i can reflect my 1.6667 LC here)

[marble yarrow]

yeah all my production are in wuling city main aic

[undone current]

w8, u drag pipe for acid? or bottling it

[marble yarrow]

uhm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1497450152984838235/ACID-PIPING.mp4?ex=69ed90a1&is=69ec3f21&hm=fc778e3c92878744dd7b493e3aad888f4bd740f4b839fa494997ee0e3d1b8f0a&

[undone current]

oh dats urs

[marble yarrow]

im freeing up space so i can accommodate event production lines in april 28th

tho its just basic production lines

fitting/moulding/packaging/reactor

[vale topaz]

hmmm, i dunno
after adding a bridge / splitter / converger on pipe, the after pipe become empty.
oh well, i just use it for saving space / get tidy design.

[jovial breach]

hmm

[marble yarrow]

rich

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

[upper fiber]

no more auto switch?

[warped delta]

Do you even do that much artificing that you need to buy the 75% ones?

[jovial breach]

yes you do

[upper fiber]

people with shet luck need those

[undone current]

guaranteed redeemer x3

[marble yarrow]

yeah i stopped doing it, since theres still a micro-delay in item control port that breaks offline. i'll regain my sanity so i can think of better concepts

[wispy grove]

yeah i cant

[marble yarrow]

(it was 90% efficient tho)

[wispy grove]

i prefer to wait till next reset to get more

[upper fiber]

mine worked fine but i realized that the heavy xira will need 20s because we can't preload it, so only 50% efficiency

[marble yarrow]

yeah the switch from carbon to xiranite in preloading is the choke point

[sleek needle]

I want to ask one thing: Is it possible to produce sandleaf in Wuling? If not, then how?

[marble yarrow]

just bring sandleaf

[upper fiber]

same as valley

[sleek needle]

Troublesome

Have to teleport back and forth is stupid

[upper fiber]

there should be sandleaf on jingyu though when doing story?

[marble yarrow]

huh?

[sleek needle]

Too little

[marble yarrow]

bro

[upper fiber]

wew, use plant loopback seed

[ruby sorrel]

can you spread the carbon/xiranite between all the input ports to speed it up

[marble yarrow]

you can create a sandleaf looper

[ruby sorrel]

so you load 5 at a time

[undone current]

u can find sandleaf on wuling

[sleek needle]

I tried before but it doesn't work

[marble yarrow]

you can generate this from a single sandleaf in your inventory

[upper fiber]

i can only load 3 lines, so still need 8s, total 18s

[undone current]

also aint plant looping being in tutorial

[sleek needle]

You dun get it. It doesn't work in Wuling

[marble yarrow]

turn off liquid mode

[undone current]

turn off water mode

[marble yarrow]

guess u dont know it

[glossy sequoia]

Finally!! Done. Starting to work from the day of the update. Finished now. Hope this set up yields enough to get all the wuling bills

[sleek needle]

I dunno that. That's why I'm frustrated

[ruby sorrel]

making a thing that spreads the inputs into 5 rows of 2 while maintainingthroughput sounds mildly insane though

[marble yarrow]

there's an on off liquid mode on top-right of the UI

[sleek needle]

So how? Show me

[marble yarrow]

open the planter then on topright of menu there is a liquid icon and either OFF/ON beside it

[upper fiber]

it is still 12s at max, and pipe can only 2 at once so still need 3s, total 13s

but to do that.... too much hassle

[ruby sorrel]

idk it's 5 liquid per right? 3s there, solids would take 4s if you can get it simultaneous somehow...

sounds absolutely insane and we don't actually have unlimited space

[marble yarrow]

yeah as long as the 5 effluent is queued after the last carbon has started producing it will be faster than the 10 solids

[upper fiber]

well, i'll just leave it at 18s for now

[upper fiber]

btw, my 2 item control port is at the output of forge for some reference

[fervent lodge]

yes, the converger priority is not implemented

so it could diverge there

[marble yarrow]

gib me metatransfer

enkad

[fervent lodge]

nyo

well i can but ugh

i need to rewrite solver first

[marble yarrow]

only dense or ferrium. nothing else 😭

[fervent lodge]

to cover day+ solve

i could ofc assume 1hr / transfer per minute

but it'd be a hack

dong wana do double work

[twilit shard]

oh hell

[upper fiber]

can't you just make 1 more new item unit that has output to choose, just list 2 items for now, dense ori and refined ferrium

[twilit shard]

should I add more than 1 pump

surely 1 is enough over 12 hours

[upper fiber]

depend on when you want to do the quest

1 pump = 11hrs+
2 pumps = 6hrs
3 pumps = 4hrs

[jovial breach]

Just place a pump and go to sleep

[fervent lodge]

i can yes, but it'll fuck up the game data tables

i'll decide later today

[hexed raft]

this good or can i mkae more compact?

[tepid wigeon]

What's the belt setup for making xircon for a 1.25/min SC

Or can I just do 1.5min and the 25/min dense will gate it

[small creek]

yea u can just do that

thrtottle dense orig to 25 and everything else will auto adjust

[tepid wigeon]

right

[small creek]

i have a bp but its experiencing issues so maybe js make ur own

[tepid wigeon]

full power it is

25/m dense should average out to 6/min xircon

or a bit less than that

1.25m

[ruby sorrel]

just limit everything

don't actually limit everything it takes a stupid amount of space

[tepid wigeon]

oh right I forgot it takes 2 ferrium for 1 xiranite too

err flip that

[hexed raft]

very space efficent 😀👍

[twilit shard]

no
it doesn't even have power

[hexed raft]

have not put those yet since i don't have power and i needed to illegally transport valley batteries to wuling

[small creek]

the splitter converger array on the top right is a bit broken

but everything else works

[slim moat]

has belt/pipe logic been broken with the recent patch

my old lines that were running 2/s on pipes now tend to have jams

[tender thistle]

Are you sending effluent and water from purifier in single pipe?

[hexed raft]

should i stash my Xircon to use them on other side or should i continue on part on picture

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it all fits in 1 pipe

[glossy sequoia]

any1 free to explain how to manage/calculate pipe splitters / convergers to use them efficiently to reduce space ?. ty

[spark hedge]

@hexed raft stash them

[spark hedge]

1 line of pipe can support 2/s, most machine use liquid at rate 0,5/s,

So u 1 line can use for 4 machine ( but need 2 pump attach to it

[undone pagoda]

Anyone got a good HC Battery farm for max efficiency? Asia serv blueprint plss

[spark hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495333197217796136

Use my guide @undone pagoda

[glossy sequoia]

how to juggle splitters and convergers using this formula like here ?

[spark hedge]

Dont use this kind of line then

See my guide, u never use this

[glossy sequoia]

is this your guide you mentioned ? https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495333197217796136

[spark hedge]

Yeah

[glossy sequoia]

ty. will look into it

[slim moat]

are expanded crucibles actually better? for the amount of power they eat they aren't really pulling twice the weight of the baseline building

usually it seems like you get bottlenecked by lack of fluid inputs anyways

[jovial breach]

They can do 3 formulas at once so that's definitely better than using 3 normal ones

[ruby sorrel]

idk you go from left side to the right side when making xircon, how is that not better

[spark hedge]

Much better

Here xircon 60/min

10 cru vs 4 cru

[slim moat]

but where can you actually run three recipes and not run out of inputs and outputs first

[tepid wigeon]

alright I ran into the problem of sewage control in the cruicble lmao do I just make a 2nd reactor for dumping sewage

[spark hedge]

Use my guide, have blueprint

[ruby sorrel]

idk look at the picture

[spark hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495333197217796136

[ruby sorrel]

same inputs/outputs

tbh making that comparison was useless, no one ever understands it

[jovial breach]

This is what it looks like, 3 formulas at once but it's only at 50% because you need another input of xircon fluid to make it 100% which is achieved by using a 2nd cruicible (so only 2 total compared to 5 crucibles)

[slim moat]

but for effluent you're gonna need extra buildings to consume the recycled stuff

[jovial breach]

If it's hard to imagine just put them down and try them out, i learned them that way

[jovial breach]

You mean inert xircon? Yes those are used in purification unit

[slim moat]

yeah, seems like it is just better for batteries

[hexed raft]

can i use 1 of every machine to make exactly 1.24583333 SC Wuling Battery

[jovial breach]

Idk where you get that number

It should be 1.25

1.666667 if you make lc

The former is better value, the latter is easier to setup

[solemn shore]

Whats the most optimised bill factory number looking like

[hexed raft]

here made it msyelf

[slim moat]

maybe its just floating point error

[marble yarrow]

why do u have so much decimal numbers

[jovial breach]

Im not good at reading excel but that doesn't look right

[marble yarrow]

also making old components 💀

[hexed raft]

they not usefull anymore?

[jovial breach]

Why you have 530 ori tho

[marble yarrow]

equivalent of dense

[pulsar willow]

50 from regional transfer

[hexed raft]

meta transfer dense orignium powder

[pulsar willow]

in form of dense originium

[jovial breach]

Oh i forgot it's 2 ori for cube

[marble yarrow]

we dont make that anymore, coz since 1.0 you should be making that already and just have tons of them in your depot

[vital narwhal]

You can stop making old components if have stockpile, or keep making if don't

[marble yarrow]

so adding them in current stuff should be omitted

[hexed raft]

got like 13k cuprium and13k xiranite

[rustic flint]

anyone got an sc battery blueprint?

[marble yarrow]

i have 50k both

[hexed raft]

is 13k enough?

[pulsar willow]

well you can use like 7.5 of your ferrium to make syringes but it's super duper slow

[vital narwhal]

13k cuprium plenty, you can stock more xira if want. Can also produce later too tho

[marble yarrow]

best thing is accumulate them, and turn on a full yazhen C facility every often

[solemn shore]

Damn no syringe at all?

[tepid wigeon]

Don't need syringe

[marble yarrow]

ultimate money maths

[tepid wigeon]

Het part better stock value

[pulsar willow]

that's a neat idea!

[marble yarrow]

no need. any hetonite usage is overall same

[hexed raft]

this better?

[slim moat]

I mean in practice you'll probably end up just leaving it afk rather than reconfiguring your base so often

[pulsar willow]

you have a constant 7.5 (or more if you are making cuprium components) of excess ferrium
harunachan says that you can turn on a full Yazhen Syringe C facility every so often, just to unload the excess.

[tepid wigeon]

And it's like 1.25 if you're making sc bat with 25/min dense

But too much effort for me to make

[marble yarrow]

do the 1.6667 LC

easiest

[pulsar willow]

do you even need the limiter?

[tepid wigeon]

Does remove annoyance of sewage management hmmge

Yes unless you're going directly from grinder to packaging for other sc battery

[pulsar willow]

well, I am asking because I don't stash dense originium anywhere

[marble yarrow]

yes. because my 12 SC packaging draws from the depot. so i can interrupt it if i dont rate limit

[vital narwhal]

limiter required if dense orig prod is not directly chained into sc packer

[pulsar willow]

ok so in my case it's not required

[tepid wigeon]

If you full chain orig into battery yeah you'll have 50min of full prod then 10min afk until next transfer

[marble yarrow]

shredder street

[solemn shore]

actual slick design

[pulsar willow]

I made something similar but it's connected to the batteries deirectly

[marble yarrow]

yeah its doable but i need hours to rework shi

[pulsar willow]

and it's mirrored

[marble yarrow]

since everything is in my main aic

yeah thats nice space usage

imma have to juggle through this

[pulsar willow]

I don't understand if it's sarcasm or not lol

what tool do you use for these

[marble yarrow]

https://enkad.enka.network/

[pulsar willow]

I wanna copy my base to that tool

[vital narwhal]

EnKAD is a godsend

[marble yarrow]

then i imported my base to it via blueprinting (segmented blueprints) my base and importing it there

[pulsar willow]

It will be so much easier to show

[hexed raft]

this works for 1.25 battery?

dontt have pipes yet

[marble yarrow]

why are u rate limiting the forge 😭

[pulsar willow]

what is your base making? Everything?

[marble yarrow]

yeah everything is there. outposts are empty

[pulsar willow]

damn it's so slick

[hexed raft]

?

[vital narwhal]

I was thinking of maybe attempting stashless all-in-one, but I remembered facility limit is probably going to be an issue

[pulsar willow]

I am a prisoner of pretty pipes though

can't do that

[marble yarrow]

arent you supposed to use forges to make maximum xiranite?

[hexed raft]

oh yeah forgor

[vital narwhal]

forges should never be rate limited because already limited qty

[pulsar willow]

why not dense originium? It's twice as much for the same transfer space

[marble yarrow]

is this pretty piping

[hexed raft]

forgot i have meta transfer 😭

[pulsar willow]

this is acceptable level of clipping 😄

[heavy mango]

Guys my schizophrenia isn’t strong enough to understand why I run out of sewage in the Expanded Crucible — if the process for Effluent requires 1 Sewage, and the process for Xircon gives off 1 Sewage, how come it isn’t an eternally sustaining cycle?

[marble yarrow]

im planning to repipe my acid since they are so obstructive. so i will rework into clipping them into concrete foundations

[marble yarrow]

because u need 2effluent 1ferrium to produce 1 xircon, and 1 forge alone cant do that

[pulsar willow]

you need 60 sewage for self-sustain

[hexed raft]

yeah wonder why

[pulsar willow]

constant 60 sewage

[marble yarrow]

easiest xircon flowchart

[heavy mango]

No need to be so rude about it, I saw it the first time >:(

[hexed raft]

srry

[dull shard]

okay math nerds, at 1500 originium / hour, will this xircon line eventually finish/drain and have 0 need for maangement / never clog?

[heavy mango]

But yeah, I totally missed that 2, that ofc makes sense… I was working with 1 Effluent… I should sleep…

Thanks gamers

[marble yarrow]

wait are u self-clogging xiranite output? 😭

ahh there are 2 outputs nvm

[dull shard]

naw not anymore it's I'm trying to ultra maximize the line

like, if i can make the report be 270 dens/minute usage, I should be good

[marble yarrow]

unloading xiranite will have more accuracy

are u making the 1.25 SC?

[dull shard]

the thing is if I do a 1/3 xiranite line, I end up eventually with "more ores, I can't seem to use it all up. if I do a 1/2 [15/min] line for xiranite, it somehow uses up too fast

so now I'm trying a 7.5/min xiranite line [I think this is the right number] to make it as smooth as possible

[ruby sorrel]

why not just calc the actual amount you need

[marble yarrow]

1.25 SC requires 10 raw xiranite overall, matches with 1500/hr dense originium

[dull shard]

so a 10/min line?

[marble yarrow]

yeah

[dull shard]

yeah that clogged

IDK why

last night I woke up to a busted line. not that it's particularly wasted, the dense can be drained faster with just doing the full line.

[marble yarrow]

10 xiranite into 10 effluent + 10 inert. 10 inert into 2.5 effluent (purification)

therefore 12.5 effluent. which can make 6.25 xircon

then 6.25 xircon into 1.25 SC

[dull shard]

you're doing an effluent backflow yeah?

I'm just treating the effluent

[tender thistle]

How much external sewage needs to be pumped in to match these ratios?

[marble yarrow]

yeah, if you dont want to waste 2.5 xiranite, just reuse the inert

[marble yarrow]

10 sewage

[dull shard]

my waste protection is if the line clogs up, I end up with excess xiranite water which becomes xiranite bottles

[marble yarrow]

10 water 10 sewage input

use pipe converger maybe into the water input, since after the purification, you can actually merge both outputs of water and xircon effluent into 1 pipe to feed back to reactor

[tender thistle]

Wait no

It's somewhere 2.5 < x < 3.33

You're getting sewage back when you're outputting xircon as well

[marble yarrow]

of right, fr

[ruby sorrel]

ratio if you backfeed everything from purification

multiply as necessary to w/e you're doing

[dull shard]

this is what I have now

[marble yarrow]

yeah its just 10 minus 6.25

3.75 sewage

[tender thistle]

I was struggling to find the right ratio for sewage, this helps a lot!

[marble yarrow]

1/8 of 30/min

💀

[ruby sorrel]

it's just combining all the recipes together, ofc if you don't backfeed water then just use the same number as xiranite

not that it really matters there

[sterile stratus]

six seven!

[hexed raft]

this bettwer for 1.25 battery?

[sterile stratus]

there should be a better way for this...

what are those belt logistic

[marble yarrow]

idk why you are even making the forge when you should be already doing it right now even before making the actual 1.25 battery

[hexed raft]

i needed to use 5/12

[marble yarrow]

just unload the xiranite

[sterile stratus]

can you do the forge alone

[hexed raft]

k

[marble yarrow]

the forge is separate

the 8 forge should be already existing in your base fr

[solemn shore]

how much cuprium does 7.5 hetonite uses

[sterile stratus]

7.5?