aic-factory

[atomic fiber]

where the copium liquid?

[jolly shore]

side facility built, but copium supply is being used for bottles first

[hexed raft]

well it alredy kinda late but can you fit wuling current max in 1 AIC?

[worthy condor]

Hi… Nobody has really given me a response and I need help. Does anyone have a YouTube video that’s easy to understand that I can watch to help with my base and outposts for the current patch of the game in Wuling? I just need blueprints to put in.

[vale topaz]

others can, not me

[atomic fiber]

well do your best

[hexed raft]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

here blueprints

[vale topaz]

or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeP9gmWI7xo pick your choice

[worthy condor]

Thank yall so muchhh! 🙂

[jolly shore]

thanks. I have xiranite and water left for copium bottles before I start on new fluids. hetonite bottles will take forever to accumulate

[vale topaz]

from 5 crucible for xircon, can be cut down into 2.

[hexed raft]

time to rebuold 😭😭

nah ill jsut build max new updt

or not the blueprint kinda trash

but what max recipie amount for a expended cruicble

[vale topaz]

3 recipes can run at same time.

[hexed raft]

do you need to output and put in same machine when done or can it stay inside until it reaches final recipie?

[vale topaz]

stay inside until final recipe, others can do 1 xircon in expanded crucible, it will be 15/m xircon output.

[zenith phoenix]

Holy crap

[true furnace]

Expanded crucible is hella goated

[zenith phoenix]

Omg this whole time I've been reading it as cubicle

[vale topaz]

meh, i don't memorize liquid xircon along with the xircon waste name

[river wadi]

effluent

[brazen vortex]

Affluent. 🤑

[hexed raft]

make fluid ferrium bottle inside ferrium bottle

[verbal lintel]

its pretty unoptimised but i made a version with modular shredders elsewhere (gearing as well)...any improvements?
please ignore whatever the hell is on the right side btw

[delicate timber]

You can use the purification unit to treat the inert Xircon effluent from the four units that are producing 60 Xircon/min to produce 30/min HeavyXir.

[true furnace]

Yeah I have a fifth crucible pulling the Xircon effluent from it

[carmine whale]

what does this mean why isnt it connecting>>?

[tawny ravine]

no power

[upper fiber]

need to be 80m near your PAC

[carmine whale]

u can literally see the pylon 💀 there no way its in 80m

[upper fiber]

the box PAC

[grave veldt]

Until 1.3 there is feature that power pylons inside AIC don't connect to ones outside

[vale topaz]

xiranite pylon require 30 m range.

[grave veldt]

That's only if you do pylon to pylon, it will connect to relays/PAC from 80m

[tall tangle]

in logistics magic is this left 2 tiles belt acceptable?

[subtle finch]

what rate you trying for?

[tall tangle]

for now learning on my own and experimenting

end goal is 6.25

[subtle finch]

das crazy

what recipe is that

[tall tangle]

sc with metatransfer hopefully

so, gotcha. only diagonals and mergers

[subtle finch]

you're trying for 6.25 xirc, it's easier to limit it by the xiranite with a 10/min splitter

[tall tangle]

that should be it then

[subtle finch]

this is the simplest way to do it, but it's not pre-fill safe, you need it place the xiranite unloader last

[marble yarrow]

eyy that looks great

[true path]

This reactor crucible only pumping out piss water i need it to pump out both piss water and cuprium solution but it isnt working as intended

[carmine whale]

how do u stop production using control port? do i just switch the item to none

[verbal lintel]

it has no piss water to make period solution because its just pumping it out

[tall tangle]

little wide to me. i'll try to make it more vertical or gotta clean bus

[true path]

Turn it on and set the number of items to limit how many items passes

[verbal lintel]

output is priority over processing

[carmine whale]

so if i just put one more than one wont more pass through?

[true path]

So its not possible to pump out both piss and cuprium solution or do i need to increase the amount of piss flowing inside

[verbal lintel]

im assuming you have a setup where you pump piss into a reactor which pumps piss into another reactor so both reactors get piss along the supply chain

you will need the other reactor to stop being able to take piss

[true path]

Yep rhe four crucible passes around cuprium solution and piss up into purification unit

[verbal lintel]

then it will stay in your current reactor for it to process

[subtle finch]

i had a realization recently that most of these dual type fluid merged into 1 pipe are not pre-fill safe
if you make it by hand fluid accumulates inside that goes out at max pipe rate and clogs the system

[verbal lintel]

you have four reactors in a chain?

[tall tangle]

keep piss clogged in last reactor. purificator needs it not

[verbal lintel]

technically you could be safe by just sending the piss back into the piss pool

[true path]

Its a bp i just copy pasted it and redesigned it i prob just made a few mistakes here and there

[verbal lintel]

is it hetonite

[true path]

Yep

Hetonite comps

[verbal lintel]

kick start it with more piss from the pool

purification doesnt give a ton iirc and it wont even give you anything if you dont have period solution in the first place

[rare moon]

The piss should fill up from the last crucible

[true path]

This is in the wuling city main aic so i literally have to transport from piss pond up to the top of wuling city lmfao

[verbal lintel]

you need piss to produce period first to make more piss

[verbal lintel]

why not make it at the new outpost

[rare moon]

You'd need enough piss for a constant supply for the 4 crucible

[vale topaz]

is the acid input being splittered into another crucible ? so 1 acid from pump / outlet splittered into 2 crucible ?

[verbal lintel]

i didnt calculate but i did a pump each 2 crucibles which is working

[muted tartan]

what factories you guys have on valley 4?

[verbal lintel]

a factory thats crashed

[true path]

Because im making 12/m sc wuling battery that needs sewage which hetonite comp provides while also spitting out effluent which what hetonite comp needs both cannot fit on the sub aic in marker stone

[rare moon]

I have two pumps in 1 crucible which chains to the others and it fills from the last so a 2/s fill rate will cover the cost of 4 crucible

[subtle finch]

i made all variants from 50-100% efficiency, and i have used them

these are all not perfill safe

[vale topaz]

18 hc batteries, 12 buck a/ citrome a, 60 steel part, 60 ferrium part, 60 amethyst part, rest went into buck c and half buck b

[verbal lintel]

im too lazy to change the language again just to post an image but two worked fine for each

[subtle finch]

you only need to move the cuprium refinement unit lol

[verbal lintel]

might upgrade to this...

[verbal lintel]

the carrot is bigger though

[upper fiber]

but you're too tired to eat

[true path]

Yeah but it looks better if i just put them both at the same aic

[rare moon]

I feel like that could slow down cuz you're using like 1.5/s acid

[muted tartan]

you think amethyst ore gonna get useful on wuling?

[verbal lintel]

oddly it has yet to clog

[rare moon]

I need to make a 8 crucible line

[subtle finch]

it has potential to clog but if you dont touch it it's fine 👌

[upper fiber]

it is 4 reactor heto so it is fine

[verbal lintel]

actually after checking values purification is 1/2s of 4
pump is 1/1s
reactor needs 1/2s

[vale topaz]

no... no use at wuling, also amethyst ore nod is not available at wuling, at least so far.
you still need amethyst to craft cryston part to make 110 zipline device tough.

[verbal lintel]

the 4 requisite saves the whole thing

[subtle finch]

if you think about cuprium refinement unit as a sewage pump, and only place it where you need sewage, it solves most of the isssue here, like bottling acid for transport

[true path]

We need more originium beds for hc wuling batts

[rare moon]

Hope they add more. Or even higher purity for current low nodes. I forget if any of them are currently at low purity tho

[vital narwhal]

They will because Wuling City area has not reached highest purity in development level

[subtle finch]

[vale topaz]

true, lots of them remain in low purity.
i meant from region lvl 9 to 12, no change to purity at all.

[rare moon]

Mostly cuz it only upgraded the new area

[upper fiber]

1.3 still months away...

[subtle finch]

it's already confirmed wuling city is at max purity now.
about to reach max means max, it's a translation issue, it's fine in other languages

[upper fiber]

2.0 we back at valley and they add lv13

so peak

[vital narwhal]

I'm aware of the "about to reach max" phrase, but I'm pretty sure it does not say that for Wuling City

[marble yarrow]

only jingyu is maxed

rdl8

[vital narwhal]

I'm fairly confident only Jingyu Valley is completely maxed

ye

[subtle finch]

oh, mb

i assumed seeing jingyu maxed, wuling was also max

[crude nebula]

quick question, since hetonite required 4 liquid in purification, does it better to combine the pipe near the 2 input, or feed it through crucible that crafting the same recipe?

[subtle finch]

first is the safest, second is called passthrough, and can clog if it accumulates fluid while disconnected, but its more compact

[vale topaz]

sad : /

[vital narwhal]

yea it be like that

[subtle finch]

lore accurate

[vital narwhal]

Do you guys think it'll be possible to run three HXira forges while also producing max SC Wuling without Xira deficit once Test Area out? It seems like we just don't have enough, at least if completely saturating Purification Node is required

[upper fiber]

would need 120/min xircon eff

for free

[vital narwhal]

If the Purification Node provides a full pipe it could work

[subtle finch]

there is a potential with the treatment facility coming soon

[vital narwhal]

but if we need three full pipes of sewage, that's a problem

[subtle finch]

yeah that i forgot what it's called

we can totally get 3 full pipes of sewage

[upper fiber]

sewage or xircon inert pool... seem sus

[vital narwhal]

we can?

[tall tangle]

success?

[subtle finch]

9 sewage from hetonite, 3 somewhere else i can't think right now

[upper fiber]

sewage for what?

[vital narwhal]

Purification Node in Test Area

[marble yarrow]

there might be a pool of unlimited sewage in the test area, just for the function of Purification node

[upper fiber]

does it uses sewage or xircon inert

[vital narwhal]

Sewage

This is what I laid out

[subtle finch]

minmaxxing sewage let's go

holy nerd

[vital narwhal]

on god

[subtle finch]

maybe that's the new deficit they want us to mald over with next

they do be like giving us incomplete ratios

[vital narwhal]

prebottling sewage propaganda?

[verbal lintel]

what is the ratio of heavy to normal forges people are running

[vast iron]

honestly maybe not

we have confirmed

8 cupriums

thats 2 pipes full

but 3rd pipe.

and you also need to run stuff for effluente

[subtle finch]

we still have sewage pools, they will totally last until end of patch

[vast iron]

inf sewage source

[marble yarrow]

safe to say the first 7 forges are already locked (6normal 1heavy)

so its the last 5 to configure

but would it be 2 heavy 3 normal, and inefficiency

[vast iron]

3-1 + 1 swapper

[upper fiber]

last time i see pool, it only has 200 i think....

[rose yoke]

how do i switch to yachen syringe? they both have this formula as well

[upper fiber]

yazhen filled bottle

[vast iron]

tho does depend how much effluent we get from that facil

[vital narwhal]

It would be simple if we have infinite sewage pool, but I feel like it doesn't thematically make sense for an area we are cleaning up PLUS you literally cannot dump sewage into world fluid bodies right now

[vast iron]

changed bottled liquid

[vale topaz]

missed this crafting material

[marble yarrow]

aight time to power up the 200 proto stash for xira hoarding

[vast iron]

Assuming a deficit of ~ 1.5/s sewage

the pool would need to be

fucking massive

[upper fiber]

wonder how many percentagethey will boost the bills stock

50% is kinda hard to reach

[graceful otter]

only those are new?

[marble yarrow]

from new enemies

the purple ghosts i think

[graceful otter]

im even killed some to check if there is a new loot and didnt get any so nothing in the manual i thought they not dropping anything...

[vital narwhal]

I also been wondering what is the deal with their showcase of all 12 forges producing HXira in this preview from livestream

[vale topaz]

it's rare drop i think, or my rng suck, it took me 3-4x new alluvium to have it dropped

[subtle finch]

they lied to us with before, so im not trusting it

[sick basin]

Well, new test area map has a lot of the new blue blight
And the event items from the aic event are made with it afawk

[subtle finch]

im not buying this is the 1.25sc

[vital narwhal]

Could maybe be future version preview where we can actually support that many? That would be a pretty insane escalation tho

[verbal lintel]

extended forge of the sky

copium....

[vast iron]

extended

[subtle finch]

life was so much simpler when it was just og ak

[vital narwhal]

Maybe there could be tech that lets it produce twice as fast

Feed four belt stabilized carbon and 1/s water?

[vale topaz]

probably just showcase, watch back the livestream.
no way hetonite comp is 1 pcs / 2 sec

[vital narwhal]

yea

there was also a bit where Hxira was coming out of Forge full-belt style

[upper fiber]

i think the showcase likely on their version, 1.2 second half one

[vapid dock]

full belt of hetonite comp

[clear pivot]

My last Wuling AIC, took me 17 hours to design and implement, and I had to redo it 3 times.

[vale topaz]

17 hours x_X

[subtle finch]

at least you're not bottling acid

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-knuckles-the-echidna-approved-knuckles-approved-knuckles-approve-gif-12133775096657000385

[vast iron]

looks great!

[clear pivot]

xd, nah i took it from to marker stone to AIC core using Conduit manifold

[marble marsh]

I just got a silly idea to improve my heavy xarnite production

[marble yarrow]

4 belts for yazhen A and 2 belts for hetonite hmmm

[marble marsh]

It's going to take a bit since Ill have to pull some conduits from the main area to the pillar one but it will improve it a tiny bit

[vale topaz]

spotted 3 endless looping belt

[clear pivot]

we dont need that much of hetonite (i believe)

[vital narwhal]

there's in fact four funny belt loop

[clear pivot]

:), i just hate looking at empty spaces

meanwhile my Qingbo stock and Marker stone is completely empty

[marble yarrow]

all in one main aic and space for event production and extra battery using metastorage ( @fervent lodge when metastorage transfer implement)

[marble marsh]

My stockade is full

[vale topaz]

x_X , my subs are filled, no way pulling acid from south of wuling into aic

[brazen vortex]

Wait, was there livestream today?

[crude pivot]

Is this a good powder farm, or is there a more compact way to handle it?

[marble yarrow]

what the hell is that

[marble marsh]

Way more compact way lol

[clear pivot]

welp

[crude pivot]

Is the 1x3 farm + a shredder in front more ideal?

[subtle finch]

here you go bud

[quiet hedge]

you can save space by planting at the eco farm so you don't have to use planting unit but gotta manually put plants inside seed-picking unit

[crude pivot]

Is there a more compact way to handle the layout to be less "wide" or naw?

[vast iron]

finding ways to give eco farm value

xd

[marble yarrow]

move the shredder and stash below the row

[vast iron]

rotate

[quiet hedge]

rotate with ctrl+r

[subtle finch]

you just stack multiple of them until it looks square enough

[vale topaz]

[crude pivot]

Kk, just trying to optimize at least that part of the factory since buckflower and sandleaf is used so much.

[vale topaz]

this is funny, probably their collab with fast food stuff or food product
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IwzxUKEkk

[crude pivot]

At least my screenshot LOOKED kinda nice, symmetry and whatnot. lol

[crude pivot]

I deleted everything in Wuling, and don't really want to use blueprints since I feel that takes away the whole point of factory building.

Definitely not an engineer, if you couldn't guess.

[marble marsh]

Understandable

[clear pivot]

for me blueprint took so much space so i never used it, but its a good idea to use it to see how this actually work

[marble marsh]

I personally use blueprints and then adjust it where necessary

[crude pivot]

This is what I did for Valley

But now I feel Valley is pretty much useless.

[quiet hedge]

the more you build the more you improve and that's the fun progression too

[marble marsh]

Like for example most of my pillar base is from a blueprint besides the purification unit and the random splitters at the gearing unit

[marble yarrow]

@subtle finch what is this 581 green number on top

[clear pivot]

true, while im going insane for the past 12 hours :x

[vale topaz]

step by step, everyone can do it, just at different speed.

[crude pivot]

My buckA is from a blueprint, but I have 3 versions of it blueprinted where I moved things around to place more for faster production.

[vital narwhal]

If you want a really square design you can use this lol

[subtle finch]

i think it's the power reserves gain rate if you not at at 100%

[crude pivot]

My design made my OCD happy, but yea, not ideal for space lol

[marble yarrow]

bruh, right. its just the power difference

[marble marsh]

I spend a solid 4 weeks messing around with the factory myself before resorting to blueprints and at the moment I'm trying to work more on my mental health and stuff so I don't have as much time to play so blueprints are pretty handy

It's not because I'm lazy it's just cuz I dont have the time to optimize the entire factory each update

[subtle finch]

this pipe is just stuck looking like this, but it works
im not gonna question it

[midnight harness]

some people made giga contraption im just happy to unclog and made this

[marble marsh]

If it ain't broken don't fix it

[marble yarrow]

the unholy 1-length pipe (on-off)

[clear pivot]

Wait now that you said it, i think u right, it should be 4 hetonite and 2 yazhen A, man do i need to redo this again

[subtle finch]

no, i meant the left-most side, it's more cursed

[crude pivot]

Rotating this 90 leads to concerns on its shape.

[rare moon]

yazhen for

[marble yarrow]

double liquid recovery 😭

[subtle finch]

quick question, how do you record a small section of your screen?

[crude pivot]

Image or video?

[marble yarrow]

no idea, i just crop them in video editor lmaoo

[subtle finch]

video

[rare moon]

just record then crop

[subtle finch]

i thought you had some fancy recording tools

[rare moon]

theres prob a program for it

[crude pivot]

You can use a program like lightshot or something. But tbh, I haven't been bothered enough to use those in years, so idk what is used now.

[rare moon]

you know obs works wonders

can just resize the source

[marble yarrow]

@clear pivot have u already seen my cursed acid piping

[vast iron]

what in the unholy belt converge

[still karma]

obs can do it

[subtle finch]

the region i might capture change frequently, if obs can dynamically adjust resolution based on region size, that would be nice

[marble yarrow]

here in endfield, YELLOW IS THE COLOR OF PROGRESS

[clear pivot]

man you ruining the views

[crude pivot]

ShareX or ScreentoGif

[rare moon]

there might be a plug in

[crude pivot]

(ShareX is what I used, not Lightshot)

[rare moon]

cuz some streamers can do that on their stream

[vast iron]

factory is the best view ❤️
If they want their view back they will have to pay

[crude pivot]

Also, Discord can do clips now if you're in a voice channel and screensharing. But the 1.2 update causes issue with it where Discord hits a crashing loop due to how things render in the game since 1.2

[clear pivot]

well, i guess xd, i try to keep it minimalist so

[vast iron]

need to conserve facility space

[clear pivot]

well true, i sacrifice my Ziplines for that

[marble yarrow]

i only kept like 24 ziplines for delivery

[clear pivot]

but now i need to redo everything since i made a mistake when designing my AIC, thanks @marble yarrow

[vital narwhal]

Does EnKAD accurate count facility number? Like for the 512

[marble yarrow]

heto time

[hexed raft]

max 480 orignium, 180 cuprium, 240 xiranite and 90 ferrium right?

[clear pivot]

yup

well if u make heavy xiranite it's 210

[signal reef]

conduits kissing

how lewd

[subtle finch]

you should've seen the sequel

[signal reef]

no way

they held hands too?

[marble yarrow]

lmao i have this much of extra facility before limit appears

43

[signal reef]

smh my head

[clear pivot]

i would to make it like this too, but the manifold use 2 pipe so its a bit weird and longer

[subtle finch]

worse

[signal reef]

wow

[hexed raft]

are xiranite and cuprium component still uefull?

[signal reef]

oh, this server doesn't allow you to say the 4 letter c word, rip

just the chair it is

[vast iron]

are manifolds married or conjoined at birth?

[subtle finch]

yes

[marble yarrow]

43/512 and 15/128 free slot 😭

[vast iron]

[subtle finch]

that's a lot for an all in one base

[marble yarrow]

wait? fr?

[vast iron]

[subtle finch]

i would say i paid for the whole factory, i will use all the slots
but i remember the game is free

[vast iron]

paid with time and effort

[marble yarrow]

HORY SHEE NEW LIMIT UNLOCKED

[vital narwhal]

??

[vast iron]

test with decorations

[subtle finch]

they should have a medal for that

[vast iron]

some people will get it on accident

[marble yarrow]

oh it doesnt matter how long is the belt

it counts as 1

[vast iron]

yep

[clear pivot]

I have this that i called it "Belt Highway"

[pure tartan]

why it doesnt make the products

[marble yarrow]

belts and pipes are shared at 1152

[cosmic lava]

there's not enough spaces open for the products to fit. you'll need to research the expanded reactor crucible tech

[marble yarrow]

😭

[vast iron]

beautiful, keep it up

[subtle finch]

it's not enough for them to have 67 different currencies, we need different facility count limit too

[vast iron]

sorry, i only accept payment in stabilized xircon powder bottle

[vast iron]

what would be the next limit tho?

[marble yarrow]

peak length extenders

[subtle finch]

this aic is really the best timing to allow oroberyl shards production, similar to og ak

sacrifice all your production for pulls

[vast iron]

what was oroberyl production in old game?

[subtle finch]

converting sanity + tcreds to pull currency

[vast iron]

sounds worth it

It would make sense if the orobery recipe was just like

50000 originium or smt

since thats used almost everywhere

[cosmic lava]

it would be more analogous to sacrificing dijiang

[vast iron]

bro dijang is literally in the pull animation

if you sell it where you pulling from

[subtle finch]

dijang's production is less significant here though

[vast iron]

oh that way

It would make sense tho

since dijang items are sanity based

keep forgetting people on dijang have a job

[subtle finch]

proves my point lol

[vast iron]

aic channel is not a good place to collect unbiased public data

[hexed raft]

howmany cuprium ore is 1 hetonite?

[vast iron]

ei-eight

[subtle finch]

true

[marble yarrow]

seeing zhuang fangyi laying cursed pipes is cursed

[subtle finch]

but im not delusional to believe everyone should try the aic

[clear pivot]

Zhuang Fangyi not approve

[vast iron]

the best part is it has nothing to do with xiranite

just ruining wuling for the sake of capitalism

[fallow jasper]

ok so im getting to heavy xiranite and all that and im getting pretty overwhelmed. i love games like satisfactory but the whole like limited space thing is killing me (i have really big factories in satisfactory lol)

are there any good like guides for like full factories and stuff?

[hexed raft]

and how many xiranite is 1 heavy xiranite?

[vast iron]

10 + 5 effluent (14 if you purifier)

[subtle finch]

guides how to do the production, no

[vast iron]

14 TOTAL

not 10+14

[subtle finch]

they just hand you out prebuilt ones

[hexed raft]

yeah i put inert xircon effluent in purifier

wait is it 14/min too?

[vast iron]

at least you have satisfactory experience, better off than most

[fallow jasper]

oh yeah idm that. i can like reverse engineer whats happening too if i want

[marble yarrow]

forbidden power

[vast iron]

6 per minute at full efficiency

14 xiranite per heavy

[subtle finch]

there's plenty on youtube, they're more or less the same

[vast iron]

concrete juice

[subtle finch]

configurable enough to get what you want

[hexed raft]

yeah but 14/min for each heavy xiranite/min

[vast iron]

yes, and youre capped at 6/min for 1 forge

[rare moon]

accurate piping of conduits

[hexed raft]

but total 3 forge for the other stuff

also shouldnt it be 10 xiranite/min?

[vast iron]

14/for 1 consumption, but purify turns 4 into 5 effluent so your input rate for 1 forge (6/min) is 60 per minute xiranite and 30/min effluente

[fallow jasper]

yeah im not sure like which to trust and some of them are just like only 30% of the full factory (i copy the designs but i just cant force out enough xiranite to catch up to its usage lol)

[hexed raft]

oh but don't count the stuff thats needed for inert xircon effluent

[vast iron]

60 per minute solid, 30/min for effluent (excess:30/min inert) if thats easier to understand

thats 6/min heavy

[hexed raft]

but it 60 xiranite/min if not counting inert xorcon effluent

[subtle finch]

i think a production list would benefit you more to lock in your objectives

[vast iron]

60/min if you already have an effluent source, yes

also not inert one, need regular for the recipe

inert one is 1/4 the regular so if you use purifying inert you would need 120/min inert

[subtle finch]

you can use it along with a calculator, and search for specific blueprints in bp channel
https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/

[fallow jasper]

good lord

how does like a casual playerbase get anything done lol

its so easy to like get locked up on the base building

[subtle finch]

they don't think, just follow instructions

[vast iron]

#1461542035617091681

[subtle finch]

guide maker like kyostinv makes it very easy

[vast iron]

i dont watch guides, weird

Is just me?

[subtle finch]

i just browse them to see causal's perspective

[vast iron]

i feel like i have issues making my stuff casual friendly

[fallow jasper]

its more like

i make a build. and its super shit

[vast iron]

in what way tho?

[fallow jasper]

and then i see someone else's build

[vast iron]

a very common casual issue is they get ratios wrong

tho ig space could be an issue

[fallow jasper]

for me its space yeah

[vast iron]

Why does your builds get chunky?

[orchid patrol]

Does someone got a better way to power the xiranite building ?

[vast iron]

looks good

[fallow jasper]

like my factories in satisfactory look like a giant flowchart so all my ratios and right and stuff, but the area given is pretty small so i run out of space for planting and stuff like that

[vast iron]

you could shift one of the grinders up or down 1 and smack 1 in the middle to power everything with 1 pylon

[vast iron]

ah, you should know that ratios arent as important to be perfect

as long as the supplying facility is making enough

you can just

connect belts and use clog to balance out

[fallow jasper]

ah yeah like one thing is xironite

like i have no space to make xironite and then use the xironite

[vast iron]

can i see?

[fallow jasper]

can't get on right now but uh i promise you it aint pretty lol

[vast iron]

What plant are you supplying it with?

[marble yarrow]

BRO, ITS TIME FOR THE NEXT GENERATION PIPING

[vital narwhal]

learning to bend and weave the flow chart can be engaging and fun

[fallow jasper]

im also playing with controller which makes building a pain

[vast iron]

mmm, comcrete

[fallow jasper]

sandleaf

[vast iron]

no wonder

your carbon is way suboptimal

[rare moon]

conduit with extra steps

[vast iron]

yazhen makes way more carbon per planter

33% more space efficient and 100% more carbon production per setup

[vital narwhal]

literally double carbon stonks

[fallow jasper]

dang

[river wadi]

Dont you still need sandleaf to grind into dense carbon powder

[orchid patrol]

you have make concrete "unconcrete" about their existance

[vast iron]

swap to carbon and your space problems begone

trust

yazhen/jincao i mean

[fallow jasper]

so like how much xiranite should i be producing

per minute

[vast iron]

run, between 180 and 210 depending on setup preferences

[vital narwhal]

Yes, but now you go from three sandleaf loop (9 machine) to one sandleaf loop and one yazhen/jincao loop (5 machine)

[vast iron]

Rn*

[marble yarrow]

continuity confirmed lol

[vast iron]

concrete wate.

[marble yarrow]

new project feasible

[vital narwhal]

pipe subway

[river wadi]

where is that

[orchid patrol]

does there is a way to make new buildings NOT in water mode when placed for the first time ?

got tired of de-activate all this stuff each time

[vital narwhal]

Copy existing one or one into blueprint that is not in water mode, then paste it

[rare moon]

copy paste

[vital narwhal]

also tip for pasting is you can hold ctrl to keep pasting

[clear pivot]

welp after 30 minutes designing it, i dont think it's possible to run 4 cuprium for hetonite, i runno @marble yarrow

[rare moon]

i run 6

[prisma silo]

guys is this 480 originium ore yield already includes the regional transfer?

[subtle finch]

no

[prisma silo]

hmm interesting

how much orignium ore yield

including the regional transfer

in theory

[subtle finch]

it's better to pick dense ori, that gives double

50/min ori ore with dense
480+50

[prisma silo]

hmm interesting

so i just regional transfer the dense orignium instead?

[subtle finch]

👌

[prisma silo]

oh wow

it actually cost the same

[subtle finch]

make sure you pick metatransfer, not regional transfer

[prisma silo]

to regional transfer

I MEAN META TRANSFER YEA

ok so it will give me another 50/min of dense orig

damn that's alot actually lol

[prisma silo]

thx sm mate

[nova osprey]

anyone here use enkad's blueprint maker?

[sonic summit]

if you want to you can also manual transfer every 4 day the extra 20/min originium from valey to wuling to get 1,5 sc battery instead 1,25 sc

[nova osprey]

having trouble adding an item to a machine

like jincao to planter

[orchid patrol]

this should be theorically self sustain no ?

[nova osprey]

oh dear

that's a bit excessive

[nova osprey]

should be fine but what are you trying to plant

[orchid patrol]

sandleaf in a quite tight space

[nova osprey]

you only have that column worth of space? that's 4 machines producing a 15/min output

[subtle finch]

you just select a recipe, it generates the seeds/plant if you get the production correct

[orchid patrol]

i just think i will go over the line with 80% of the planter and belt it up in zone

[orchid patrol]

need 4 sandleaf/2s and that 1/2 of the borders i plant sandleaf

[true path]

Bro i cant place anything anymore i hit the 512 facility limit

[nova osprey]

one sec brb

[glacial mango]

normal, just get rid of sum unnecessary things, like excess of gun towers for ex

[nova osprey]

ah okay i just need it to loop back into depot ig, that's why it's saying 0 efficiency

[true path]

Wait does this limit apply on one area or the whole wuling region?

[glacial mango]

whole region

[true path]

Wtf

[nova osprey]

oh i see what's going on

[subtle finch]

this is the slimmest you can make it

[nova osprey]

you're trying to converge it and output two in different directions

[true path]

If we dont get double of this by next patch i genuinely wouldnt be able to play anymore facilities gng

[nova osprey]

should be fine

[fervent lodge]

no way, wuling stands with ukraine

[narrow rampart]

This good?

[wispy grove]

anyone have 8 cuprium line heto part bp?

[subtle finch]

i had, but i deleted it

you can just use 75% and copy paste the 25%

[orchid patrol]

i will try something with it thanks

[subtle finch]

too excited to take teh screenshot, but it's looking stable ✅

oh you have 4x 0.5 xircon crucibles, there's a high chance that could clog

[carmine whale]

why is the theoretical data usually so off than current one when current one looks good

[orchid patrol]

you made my day, this can prolong the axial symmetry

[granite cedar]

is 120/min the max cuprium for 1.1?

[subtle finch]

heavy xiranite for example, is based on the gearing unit making hetonite component, theoretical max is 6/min of component or 12/min heavy xiranite

[granite cedar]

also does regional lvl 12 matter for wuling? im lvl 10 now is there more ore for lvl 11/12?

[subtle finch]

you can easily attribute it to idling units (those with zzz) not producing their max efficiency

[subtle finch]

just stock bills increase

[nova osprey]

10 will probably matter for test area but we don't have it until may 14th or so

[orchid patrol]

can you force open the slot for conveyor ?

[nova osprey]

so 9 is more than enough, although you should be leveling your rdm anyways bc it always means more bills

[nova osprey]

nope

[golden sapphire]

finally

[orchid patrol]

:/

[golden sapphire]

fk this game

not even making meds either

[nova osprey]

you say that but you're still here so you definitely love it

[granite cedar]

so max cuprium is 120 just enough for a single yazhen A production/split it with gear?

[tall tangle]

why'd you even purify that?

[subtle finch]

the calculator results i showed where 1.25sc/min takes exactly 10/min of xiranite assumes lossless production
if you dump it to treatment, you will be needing more xiranite

[orchid patrol]

someone got a solution on this ?

[subtle finch]

i made a very simple 30/min xircon production for those that are still using the wrong recipe topology of 4x0.5 xircon crucibles
this is very safe to clogging

[marble yarrow]

2nd planter set from left, move it 2 square down and 1 square left

[orchid patrol]

oh thanks !

[subtle finch]

if you like symmetry, you can just use my 6 forge layout

ignore it if you like to make things yourself

[tall tangle]

i dislike that extra stations and energy and would prefer to place more complex input to avoid it and have just reactor and packer

[finite latch]

do you not have nough cuprium to make yahz A with hetonite parts???

[tall tangle]

.5 both

[orchid patrol]

i will keep it for friends but for me i prefer doing it by myself

[wispy grove]

why is your layout detailed? while mine is like this?

[subtle finch]

you're right with the power, we have a lot of xiranite to spare, you can afford to dump the inert
but the other solution would require an overflow valve, its up to you whichever you prefer

[true path]

6 forge? Why not 7

[subtle finch]

i think it just depends on the zoom of your browser, and screen resolution

[tall tangle]

what was that calculator of input you shows screenshot of before?

[subtle finch]

aesthetic has a price cost of space

[true path]

Do we got a bp for 7 forge xiranite?

[subtle finch]

plenty

[true path]

Im using a 2x 4 forge xiranite and it is not very space efficient

[subtle finch]

there's even 8.
7+1heavy

[true path]

I just need 7, het comp uses one

[subtle finch]

you can just transport the heavy you know

[spring hatch]

what is the maximum ore output in valley 4 can somebody screenshot ?

[subtle finch]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/#t=item_proc_battery_5%3A1.25

[vital narwhal]

I'll plug mine
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495778524760641596

[subtle finch]

oh, you're the who made that, nice

[true path]

Yours didnt show up when i searched for it

I only put 7 in the search bar and only saw one 7 xiranite lol

[languid trench]

2 splitters like this would cut output into 0.25 right

[keen river]

https://x.com/N0N3THE1ESS/status/2047547657594470421?s=20 they better deploy those during Comiket

린 (@N0N3THE1ESS)

와개웃제발

X · Apr 24, 2026, 5:26 AM

[vital narwhal]

SEO failure 😔

[languid trench]

If space / IO slots werem't limited then it would be ideal to just send every output to depot and output as needed right

[subtle finch]

yes, but that would just be palworld

[torpid spire]

anyone know if this water setup for my cuprium and xircon effluent is consistent?

it seems consistent for now

but im worried something will break

[hexed raft]

this looks right or is soemthing wrong?

[torpid spire]

there are 2 pumps feeding into each line of pipes btw

[subtle finch]

3 series splitters are known to choke the last 2 units with water and not arriving at the right time
but if it's okay for now, then nothing to worry

[torpid spire]

yeah i had that problem earlier

but i let the refining units fill with water before resuming production and now it seems okay?

[subtle finch]

safest solution is send it through the middle, and split equally

it's really buggy...

[torpid spire]

after a few hours the last refining unit is still at 50 water

same for the crucible

if its buggy ill swap to something else then

[subtle finch]

again, nothing to worry until it happens again right

[torpid spire]

yeah...

except my battery production is tied to xircon and i dont wanna wake up to a power failure

[south ferry]

I miss valley4
There is can remove most of the stuff and the factory will still work
But here anything small is clogged or just insufficient the factory shuts down

[tawny bear]

my jincao crucible kept overflowing/underflowing with water so i made this primitive overflow line
-# only 1/16th gets filtered until the crucible overflows

[queen wagon]

how to plug tube to take water?

[iron stratus]

you're placing belts

press q to place pipes

[pulsar willow]

He placed fluid supply unit instead of pump.

[tall tangle]

it's so hard to tell if it's working as intended...

[iron stratus]

wow i didnt see that

[pulsar willow]

Hikarin made it a bit smaller I think

[tall tangle]

nah. there was purifier and different approach

[pulsar willow]

Yeah you're right, but what does this approach achieve?

[subtle finch]

i was thinking you would use the same treatment the sewage is using
this costs the same power for more xiranite and facility count

[uneven aspen]

what's the intended amount of xiranite?

[tall tangle]

i tried to limit solid to get 6.25 xircon without liquid magic

aka just let sht clog and spoonfeed xira

[uneven aspen]

i dont trust that website

30/m xiranite uses buckflower and i dont see a way to change that

[tall tangle]

(didnt use it. just my whaky math)

[subtle finch]

yeah that's been reported in github, you really need to use it with the proper context

if you throw the inert away you need a 12.5/min xiranite lane

you can do that by doing 10/min + half fo 5/min

[orchid pilot]

You also need to limit the sewage or the reactor will clog. If you've got an overflow treatment split before the inlet, that may work, but I feed the exact amount

[subtle finch]

like i said about these systems before, having 0 xiranite in the system accomplish the same thing as zero sewage
and it's easier to deal with it in belts

[orchid pilot]

huh? I don't see any issue with 0 sewage
as far as I know, if this hits 50 sewage while being overfed, it is likely to shut down the reactor

all we see is a conduit so we don't know how much sewage is being fed

[tall tangle]

it's still working with 50 tho...

[subtle finch]

this is the simplest 12.5/min i can come up with
idk why you want to make it hard for yourself lol

[tall tangle]

also math

[subtle finch]

math alone isnt enough to deal with limiters, you need to deal with converger priority too
or they wont behave properly

it took me a while to even find a 5/min that works if it's not against the depot

[uneven aspen]

if only the aic report actually showed the y axis numbers 😔 or showed decimals for the yields

[orchid pilot]

oh ok sorry, now I see, as long as it's not simultaneously clogged with xirceff or inert, it shouldn't shut down, mb

[tall tangle]

rounded it looks... fine...?

[orchid pilot]

also are you guys throwing inert into a shared treatment unit?

[subtle finch]

actually it might be easier to start from 15/min and subtract from there, idk why i did 10 and 5

[orchid pilot]

because if you're not, you might as well just purify loop it

and that makes the xira input super easy, just 10/min

[uneven aspen]

according to that tool 6.25 xircon just wants 10/m xiranite assuming you using the inert purification

so if you don't mind 2 reactors it should be fine to just do a 10/m xiranite line

[orchid pilot]

yes, can confirm (own calculation and currently running it in-game)

[subtle finch]

yeah, this is a simpler 12.5

[orchid pilot]

imo throwing the inert away only makes sense if you're able to share a partial waste treatment with some other line (i.e., avoid 50 power usage)

[subtle finch]

that's what ive been saying 😭
i think they just want to find a new solution on their own

[orchid pilot]

oh lol

[subtle finch]

idk if 2.5/min of xiranite is worth 50w though

[tall tangle]

i thought that too, hard t tell if it beats lc's

[subtle finch]

at a scale that small it depends if your pwm can even save the power gain into batteries

if it's lc or sc, it beats it by a huge margin

hmm, understanding converger priority now, i think this 12.5/min should work
anyone willing to test it with a timer?

it needs to be placed entirely by copy-paste or blueprint

[orchid pilot]

OH I wonder if that's why my belt limiter was screwing up???

I tried setting the normal 10/min but for some reason it choked (morning after, I found my sewage capped instead of steadily bouncing near 0, so xiranite must have been underfed)

[subtle finch]

bean never fails

[earnest steeple]

which one is selected first though? idk if it matters, because it definitely messed up my pwm once when i first placed it via copy and paste (trying a different pwm format).

[subtle finch]

check the link to that forwarded message, i think they asked the same thing

[orchid pilot]

HOLY shit that thread, didn't know people were working on autoswap forge
obviously thought about it myself but not smart enough to actually attempt

[earnest steeple]

Eh, there was too much to read to figure out if there's an answer. Better wait for a guide, even though I do quite a bit of research myself.

[shrewd knoll]

why think, just make everything small

[earnest steeple]

I thought about the autoswap forge. A lot of it was in place already. and I think for quantizing packets of 5, I thought about using a protocol stash, since it only unloads a full set of 50 before it unloads the next stack, but it looks like there's another method they're using in the most recent posts. I haven't figured out liquids, but it looks like using a separating unit, it works the same way. Of course, the last part is syncing them both, so....

[tall tangle]

it almost looks neat. only like... 2 bridges

[tall tangle]

(fail reply)

[shrewd knoll]

i forgot to remove some pipe artifacts lol

but still working

[unique nova]

what are you guys producing to keep up with outpost output? I have H.xiranite 6/0, sc batt 24/3, heto Parts 5/0, yield/usage and am falling behind on wiping wuling bills

[tall tangle]

so, the most stupid method of just belting away what you dont need without convergers shows same graph as this abomination, so i lean to believe it's working. ugh i wish i could see decimals

[shadow void]

you make . . .24/m SC Wuling batteries?

[unique nova]

yes

i don't get how im still falling behind cuz im doing this by cutting stuff in valley

are meds still the way to go after update?

[shadow void]

If you are saying you are not keeping up with outpost stock bills, then you must be deleting things, because 12/m SC batteries produces 38,880/hr stock bills of value and the outposts produce ~46,000/hr

[hexed raft]

does this look correct?

[unique nova]

have you been able to cover both outpost daily with 12/m batts?

i must be doing something wrong somewhere lol

[shadow void]

4/m Hetonite Parts give you another 11,520/hr stock bills, then you have all that Hvy Xir. I make 13.25/m SC

[subtle finch]

tl;dr having more than 1 splitter is not recommended, it can even be locational which side will get priority

[shadow void]

Nah, you must just be imagining things

[unique nova]

i guess i was making components the whole time until just last night

but im still behind rn, maybe it'll clear up after another day

[shadow void]

Hvy Xiranite at 6/m gives you 9720/hr stockbills. So you should be selling some combination of Heta/Hvy Xir

[tired gate]

so you have to move the originium from v4 to wuling? manually?

[unique nova]

i make the cubes in valley and move those

[shadow void]

"Have" to, no

[unique nova]

ok, that makes sense then, tyty

ive just been cutting some valley stuff since i don't really care about the bills there anymore

[shadow void]

12/m SC Batteries, and 6/m Hvy Xiranite, and 4/m Hetanite Parts is more than enough to be ~10,000/hr stock bills positive

[tired gate]

make sense; takes like a month or 2 to completely clear valley shop

just wish the regional transfer thing was better

[shadow void]

yeah

[unique nova]

yea, a full automated transfer would be qol

[subtle finch]

it would also break the balance

[shadow void]

Yep

Lore wise too

the factory is there to help the outposts

[unique nova]

if it can already be done manually, then the balance is already broken no?

tho i just mean regular transfer not meta transfer

[subtle finch]

it's called corruption because it goes to the endmin's hand first

[unique nova]

lol

[shadow void]

balance there is you can only do 35 stacks at a time which is like 1700 per transfer

[tall tangle]

we are selling merch and placing slot machines at REFUGEE camp, what are you on about?

[trail mirage]

is 22/M hetonite is right?

[shadow void]

1750* which is manually transfering 46 times if you do 80k

[uneven aspen]

yup 22.5/m is the max rn

since aic report doesnt show decimals . . .

[unique nova]

yeah, i just macro that shit ngl

[shadow void]

realistically tho, you are just overproducing. not saying its bad, just that you'll never beable to sell it all for profitssss

[unique nova]

i did it cuz i was so behind by a lot, thought it would fix it but was still behind when i got on so i thought it was impossible to cover the output after the update lol

[buoyant spoke]

hello everyone, im new here, is the factory mechanics the same as other factory games like factorio?

[shadow void]

if you are producing 24/m SC batteries, then you are making almost 2x as many stockbills (in battery value) than the outposts create

[unique nova]

yeah i didn't know that, idk where exactly to see the number that u need to produce daily is, can you show me a snapshot

[shadow void]

add up each outposts avg hourly, take what you produce (12/m) times 60, then times the cost of the product

[unique nova]

is it the blue # on the top?

[shadow void]

yeah

top

[unique nova]

is this only for this individual outpost or combined

[shadow void]

that changes based on who you have as an operator in there and any of the bonuses from combat defense

individual

[unique nova]

gotcha thx for the info

nice, that means i can go back to making components and cover everything with just batteries theoritcally

[lone plover]

What do we currently do with the 0.75 Xiranite surplus from recycling Inert Effluent? Do we just make LC bats?

[unique nova]

with the update is it possible to buy out all the catalyst every week?

[shadow void]

Hmm

[subtle finch]

no idea, i bought the beans instead

[unique nova]

what beans? food buffs?

[shadow void]

7,789,824 from outpost, then 3,040,000 from the environment mission, then 2,500,000 from the depot mission (assuming 119k per)

[subtle finch]

chubby lungs

[uneven aspen]

depends on good stock market buying low and sell high

[subtle finch]

the outpost, upgrade among other things makes it hard to verify too

we need a clean week of constant profit

[shadow void]

whats the cost of each of the catalysts

[uneven aspen]

no idea i brought them out already

saving for the chubby lung

[unique nova]

i think its 60k 120k and 300k, idk the max stock tho

[subtle finch]

not to mention the catalysts requires bills to use

well technically its the gears, but you know what i mean

[shadow void]

but yeah, buying it all is gonna probably require you to buy/sell trade goods at good margins

wasn't there a post somewhere with detailed information on Elastic Goods?

[unique nova]

ok, i wasn't sure if it was worth getting the 300k ones i usually skip them to save bills for the refresh to get the cheaper ones

[hidden temple]

at full income you can deplete all catalysts and have 1m+ spare weekly

this is with ass elastic sales

high end would be +350k

so can expect 1-1.2m spare weekly

[unique nova]

ok nice, guess i will just buy what i can get then thanks

[lament obsidian]

not everyone doing the daily 3 delivery in wuling, at least for myself i know i dont get that daily 300k

[shadow void]

really nice overal visual there

[unique nova]

i always do it because of the credits mainly so i can refresh for arsenal ticks

[shadow void]

I've been skipping the elastic goods selling step myself

just made 5.6m selling my Chubby Lungs

[unique nova]

u can sell it? i thought it was just a decoration thing

[shadow void]

elastic goods

[unique nova]

ohh, lol i nvr pay attention to the names of the goods, i just learned the name from the one that called them beans

[unique nova]

is this posted somewhere and maintained every update? or just a personal thing u made?

[shadow void]

[hidden temple]

just from my own sheet with messy misc data lol

[shadow void]

too bad i'm already sitting on 30m

[hidden temple]

helmets can hit 5.4k, wait for sat/sun reset prices

[unique nova]

is that a routine pattern or something?

[hidden temple]

but yeah doesn't matter with v4 atp haha

[shadow void]

Its pointless to sell, because theres nothing to buy

[hidden temple]

mhm, here's a sample week

[unique nova]

is it like that every week?

[hidden temple]

[unique nova]

good to know

was a pain having to check friend prices all the time

[hidden temple]

can also refer to this guide, which is what I think A_Z was talking about

[shadow void]

buy less that 1k when you can, not always possible in Wuling, and sell over 5k if you can, some items dont get that high tho

[unique nova]

yeah, i generally always try to buy <1k then sell 4.8k+, but i didn't know that weekends were peak prices days

[shadow void]

great infographics again

[hidden temple]

my standard for wuling is 1.3k or less yeah

[shadow void]

key takaway

[hidden temple]

thanks it's the only one I polished up

[slate plume]

any ideas on what to do with excess xiranite?

[hidden temple]

take note of the lower left uhh, note in the gray box
wuling can hit +100 such as with this case #help message

[shadow void]

make xircon effluent with it, store in a cryston bottle

[uneven aspen]

sell to outpost first

then your extra yield will refill

[slate plume]

true, thanks!

[hidden temple]

was asked about just above #aic-factory message

[unique nova]

oh wth, i didn't know players influenced the prices, i thought it was all just rng automated by the game lol

[hidden temple]

there's a whole cn community analyzing elastics data since launch, and from the few stuff I hear about it it's apparently dynamic

don't know any more than that tho

I just tracked to confirm the existence of peak *tiers

[shadow void]

a bit of dynamism is good

[unique nova]

lol, didn't think people would go so deep into it, actual min maxing everything

[slate plume]

can you send me the blueprints of this?

[shadow void]

differnt strokes for different folks

[south vector]

Does Wuling only use ores that are mined in Wuling?

[shadow void]

yes, but you can manually transfer and use metastorage transfer

[unique nova]

i remember there was something in the dev stream about when your factory completely ran out of power when u were offline, is that thing implemented already?

[shadow void]

I've not seen it anywhere

maybe its only visible when it goes offline?

[tepid wigeon]

Also I usually notice prices at beginning of week are all mid, none low or high, so I buy out cheapest on Sunday and 0 out my elastic

Cause first couple days of a week it's rare to see a <1000

[unique nova]

yea, i was wondering how it worked, i let my factory run out of power but it was just dead like normal so idk what they actually did

[tepid wigeon]

Might not get aux power until test area

Since we don't have it atm

[shadow void]

anyone know why we didnt get defense missions for the new outpost?

[hidden temple]

yes that's a good habit to have, I do it as well especially for wuling

but also here's something pretty interesting,
buy prices (price floors) of low peak goods do start high at the start of the week, but high peak goods generally stay the same

this is why I buy out wuling goods on sunday. since wuling has no high peak goods yet

[unique nova]

maybe we killed all the baddies, i feel like the outpost didn't really have any paths made for a tdm either

[tepid wigeon]

Wonder what the chance is

[hidden temple]

can check https://www.end-market.com/ to track data outside of your own

but it's nice that a single account can already have a large sample size of a hundred

[hidden temple]

it's fairly consistent, here's a diff week

don't treat it as gospel tho, buy price statistics only have you as a sample so it won't always be the case for you
at least with sell prices you have a 100 friends to choose from

[tepid wigeon]

I can't say I pay enough attention but I don't think I've ever seen <1200 on Monday

For buying which you can only do from your own

I don't look at friends on Monday so couldn't say

[hidden temple]

yeah it's less likely overall, since low and mid peak goods do start higher

i don't normally share this info cuz it can be misleading

which is why the infographic only includes selling advice

[ruby sorrel]

but aren't friend prices what they get to buy at anyways? does it make the data unusable if it's not your shop?

[silent canyon]

Is my math correct on Cuprium to Hetonite gear component being a 16:1 ratio?

[ruby sorrel]

sounds right

[silent canyon]

I just unlocked the new AIC, how do I unlock the foggy areas above and below the marker stone?

[keen river]

they will unlock after main ques

as part of side quests

[ruby sorrel]

you just walk there after main quest

[earnest steeple]

Finish the story, and they will raise the bridge. Although you can reach the lower area by taking the raft route from the southern area.

[keen river]

i think the raft is disabled until you get the bridge up

[ruby sorrel]

also the north pillar fixing minigame is tied to 3rd day of a quest chain so don't get annoyed with it just chilling

[silent canyon]

So for right now I just got bare minimum
1 cuprium refiner
3 Xiranite forges
1 heavy Xiranite forge
1 hetonite gear component thing.
I'm definitely making it slow, but at least I got something set up

[ruby sorrel]

I was very annoyed

[keen river]

in general there are like three quest chains

[silent canyon]

How many cuprium refiners can I have once I get all set up?

[keen river]

that go over multiple days

[tepid wigeon]

Something is better than nothing until you finish msq

[keen river]

also you can speak to the guy in the whip dude's home after you are done with quests for some minor cutscene

[tepid wigeon]

Then you can optimize

[silent canyon]

Yeh I just wanted enough to continue on msq

[tepid wigeon]

At least there's no mines behind side quest areas

[hidden temple]

yeah, it's just that the tracked price floors pick the lowest out of 100 accounts
you have no control over what your buy price would be, unlike selling

[keen river]

there is a monitoring spot in south area tho

[ruby sorrel]

that house at the bottom of marker also has a kid npc with more ardashir lore if you visit afterwards

[silent canyon]

Also made a bit of heavy liquid Xiranite to clear that puzzle I saw earlier with the thick blight

[keen river]

i have finally finished this thing, took forever 😅

[ruby sorrel]

yeah... not doing that only have 356

[shadow void]

355 myself

[keen river]

if you want to finish it, https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Findings this is 95% in order in game

so you can just go over your findings, if there is something missing between two its the one you are missing

and then you can cross reference https://opendfieldmap.org/ for the missing ones

got it done pretty fast

[shadow void]

I'll probably do it as a side quest

[silent canyon]

I only have enough cuprium for 5 refiners (150/m) so far, must be behind the fog?

[keen river]

hm

dont think so

you probably connected something incorrectly or something?

should be 180/min

[ruby sorrel]

yeah 150 is an invalid number afaik

[keen river]

there are only two mining groups in new map and both are right next to the outpost

[ruby sorrel]

it's 160 if you don't have +purity in marker yet

[icy bloom]

just unlocked this. did i misunderstand something? i can't run double cuprium solution with the expanded crucible?

[tame sedge]

you can only craft a given recipe once per tick/clock or whatnot

different recipes yes, but the same one, not so much

[lament obsidian]

it can handle more formulas, but only if its different, you cant produce the same thing 2x or 3x at the same time

[icy bloom]

damn lol tyty

[keen river]

you can do multiple steps of complex recipe at once too

[silent canyon]

Reactions can also share an same ingredient but only consume once

[keen river]

like make xircon from xiranite and ferrium powder directly

[silent canyon]

I noticed this with medicine, how it only consumed 1 water, 1 jincao powder, and 1 yazhen powder but produces 2 solutions

Where if you made it separately, it would consume 2 water

[keen river]

are you sure you arnet supplying 2 waters? 🤔

[nova osprey]

^

p sure you're supplying two water

[silent canyon]

Yeh, it only consumes 1. I was getting a surplus of water when I shouldn't

[nova osprey]

enough water for two reaction

[keen river]

🤔

i mean, its possible

[icy bloom]

yeah i was gonna experiment with different reactions, but wanted to test if i could make two of the same reactions first

[nova osprey]

how many pumps do you have connected to it

[wet tree]

I'm pretty sure that the water flow rate is 2/sec, whereas each solution takes 2 seconds to produce.
So you always clog water.

[silent canyon]

Weird setup, but I had 1 pump supplying 1 water farm for Jincao, and 1 connected to the reactor.

[nova osprey]

flowrate is 1/s but machines consume 0.5/s

[subtle finch]

I did double med crucible before and definitely consumes 1 entire pump

[nova osprey]

per pump

each pump supplies enough for two reactions two machines

[keen river]

lemme test it 🤔

[nova osprey]

same

[silent canyon]

I haven't redone my Xircon production with the new reactors yet

[zinc prairie]

Is there another way to acquire more Xiranite?
Idk but when I tried to built the Heavy Xiranite and Hetonite production, its usage skyrocketed up :V

I have to shut the production down or I run out of Xiranite

[nova osprey]

i need to get to doing it

[silent canyon]

But I believe the new reactors can condense the space I'm using

[subtle finch]

Probably because last patch med c doesn't need to run at full speed, same with medA if you make cuprium comps

[nova osprey]

you're using 7 forges?

OH

lol

okay nvm

[subtle finch]

so crucibles aren't at full rate either

[zinc prairie]

EIGHT
Six for normal Xiranite, 2 for Heavy + making Hetonite

[nova osprey]

yeah i forgot heavy xiranite is 6/min for one single forge, that's a lot of heavy xiranite

[keen river]

🤔

[silent canyon]

Do you have to stop medicine production to run Hetonite gear at full speed?

[keen river]

yes, but it wont run at full speed anyway

[nova osprey]

you can't even run hetonite at full speed

[keen river]

not enough copium

[tame sedge]

cope harder

[nova osprey]

also

you're just wasting materials

there's no hetonite based gear that helps with artificing

better to just make hetonite gear when you want to make a single piece of gear for one person

[silent canyon]

I'll probably have a splitter set with an item control port to request hetonite on demand then

[keen river]

doesnt look like it duplicated the water

[silent canyon]

There's no use for Hetonite right now other than gear and the new towers right

[nova osprey]

yeah

the new towers are sick though

I've got to say

[silent canyon]

The mortar 👀

[subtle finch]

I produce hetonite comp to flex on the poor, not for practicality

[silent canyon]

Is it better than the flamethrowers?

[nova osprey]

both mortar and the new beam towers are insane

[keen river]

mortar is absolutely bonkers

[nova osprey]

mortar is like grenade tower

the beam tower has an insane range as well

[zinc prairie]

Hmm that's true honestly

[nova osprey]

the old beam tower was lowkey useless bc of the range

not anymore

[silent canyon]

Oh wait you can sell Hetonite parts

[nova osprey]

yeah

[silent canyon]

But I wonder if that's worth...

[zinc prairie]

But the heavy xiranite one 🥹
10 for 1 heavy T_T

[nova osprey]

it is but imma wait until all my alluviums are full of towers lol

[keen river]

as far as i can tell, all three beamers have same range 🤔

[nova osprey]

do they?

[keen river]

ye

[nova osprey]

maybe they buffed the old ones but i swear the old beam towers had such a short range, like 10 meters tops

[keen river]

maybe they buffed them

[nova osprey]

huh i see

i think they buffed them

[keen river]

the mortar is so massive it doesnt even fit on screen with max zoom

[nova osprey]

the damage is really high though

[nova osprey]

yeah

[serene rock]

I have a question will this run out cause I went from 60k to 20k

Turns out I got rid of a relay point connected to a mine

I just fixed it

[keen river]

well, you are using 170 and making 150 somehow, so yes, it will run out

[serene rock]

Ok so should I turn everything off until I'm back at max or just leave it

[keen river]

there is no reason to store copium ore

just convert it to stuff and let it zero out

[silent canyon]

I find I try to avoid putting intermediate ingredients into the storage. I hate fluctuating numbers

[serene rock]

My ore is making like 2 different things

The components and the syringe

[keen river]

may i introduce you to your graph destroyer, the metatransfer originum cubes 😅

[silent canyon]

The damn meta transfer being only a little bit short off from 30 items/min

[nova osprey]

my question is why is your yield at 150 not 180, are you not supplying enough water?

are some of your drills on storage mode

[serene rock]

U didn't see it but if got rid of a relay by accident that connected to one of the dig spots

I just fix it like now idk how long it was disconnected

[keen river]

rip

[serene rock]

Yeah I just check it's at 180 now

Opps

[tall tangle]

i gave up on extra sc and went back to lc. cubes are fine, but sewage control is ugh, and too much extra power

[ruby sorrel]

how's the power +150 vs LC?

[subtle finch]

it's always worth switching

[keen river]

yeah, you mostly do SC batteries for trading purposes

[subtle finch]

as long as you're in the positive

[tall tangle]

i keep my dream of going back under 5k power

[keen river]

i still power my wuling with 1 sc and 2 sc valley 4 batteries 😅

[subtle finch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m_ye3nBwYVGm2stCkIohEVmI_slI0J1PCcdbER0q-H4/edit?usp=sharing

[keen river]

proto stash ensures that if i forget to supply enough v4 batteries it will switch to wuling ones automatically without crashing

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I should fix my spreadsheet so it's nicer to look at

[nova osprey]

i did see, so it's at 180 actual now?

the image you sent earlier, is at 150 not 180

no one is going to be able to know that that's your old photo

[keen river]

4 more days till AIC event

[nova osprey]

if it's actually at 180 and 170 then you don't need to shut everything down

[nova osprey]

more factory

[pulsar willow]

a little more micro-optimizations done to free up space (if we ever get an increased limit of structures)

[keen river]

i need to stockpile more hetonite and heavy xiranite 😅

[subtle finch]

yaay, no more cursed bus

[nova osprey]

for what though

[serene rock]

Oh no it wasn't old I was confused at first until I double checked and saw my dig site disconnected my bad for the confusion

[keen river]

for uhh.. questionably sourced info about.. this

[nova osprey]

allg

[serene rock]

Also I turn off a deposit now its
180/170

[nova osprey]

ah i see i see

[ruby sorrel]

all these ideas but I don't want to actually build them

[pulsar willow]

yeah I looked at my base and thought that I could move it a bit towards the edge, since I had a bunch of free space there and couldn't place anything there anyway, because there was no bus...

[nova osprey]

wait 4 more days for new event huh

guess I'm gonna stop trading tmrw

[serene rock]

My syringe won't be as fast but it ok its just stock

[keen river]

it seem that (questionably sourced info) ||you need 1 hetonite and 1 heavy xiranite per each xiranite jade gourd||

[serene rock]

Got get those bills

[keen river]

but to be fair, this probably will change before they release it

[nova osprey]

[keen river]

this event is two weeks tho

so no real need to stockpile anything unless you want to rush it

[nova osprey]

100% not needed but I'm an autistic min maxer

[subtle finch]

i should stop selling my heavies

[ruby sorrel]

2wks to make 20k things

[keen river]

the real question is what will be the exchange ratio for those fruits of altriusm certs

i fully expect that those 20k things wont be enough to clear the medal

[nova osprey]

you got a factory ready?

[keen river]

and its more like "sell totally 800k worth of items and also in this have 20k gouds"

[subtle finch]

[nova osprey]

[ruby sorrel]

well yeah 6/min would hit 20k in about.... 2.3 days

[keen river]

yeah

so assuming the ratios are correct and wont be changed, you need 1 forge on heavy xiranite for 2.3 days to clear the bonus

[zinc river]

guys is the 28th the day we get the next 4 forges of the sky?

[keen river]

possible, but unlikely tbh