aic-factory

[clear pivot]

i managed to put every single production on core area, every other place is empty, but yeah i delete a lot of my turret and ziplines for it to works

[uneven aspen]

im doing 6 in 1 sub aic and 4 in the other sub aic it's more managable imo

[frigid dirge]

5hour and i got this much

[tall tangle]

see for yourself if it fills up

[brittle vale]

Wait, you mean turrets count too? It is not area limit but map area??

[frigid dirge]

yeah

[serene rock]

Pain

[clear pivot]

yeah more like you making that in core area right? so everything that on wuling city is count

[candid radish]

what to even do with my 2 leftover cuprium ?_? half meds?

[brittle vale]

Oooh, that's a good info, if it helps I'll be extra happy

[candid radish]

cuz its not gonna be enough for the parts AND the bottle

[dark cipher]

I know it it just gotta figure out my layout, I’ve been ignoring to actually do my wuling factory stuff so I gotta invest more into it

[brittle vale]

Gotta try, thanks!

[clear pivot]

anything outside of that like jingyu valley, qingbo stockade, and market stone doesnt count

[tall tangle]

.5 meds. .25 blood. or armor

[candid radish]

blood?

[frigid dirge]

i hate this bro

[clear pivot]

also belt or pipe utility like bridge, converger, splitter is also count as building

[frigid dirge]

more purification unit

[candid radish]

is 3 hetonite parts per minute normal

[brittle vale]

Yeah, already read it, thanks. I hope turrets sacrifice would be sufficient

[frigid dirge]

more power cost/less space

[brittle vale]

I need not that much

[frigid dirge]

well mine just 1.5

[iron spoke]

is there an explaination for why planters seem to outpace their product lines. these copied never clog xiranite blueprints always end up with 50 of everything in the facilities.

[dark cipher]

Is your maxed out?

If I could get the code to that I’d be happy

[frigid dirge]

yh bro it droping

[dark cipher]

Damn

[uneven aspen]

only 3 xiranite forge setups useup 100% sandleaf

[frigid dirge]

90/min is not enough

[uneven aspen]

1,2,4 setups will have extra sandleaf

[iron spoke]

I'm talking about those

[uneven aspen]

i dont think they should clog up

[frigid dirge]

it with cuprium part

[golden carbon]

May I ask some questions about my factory?

[frigid dirge]

but i turn it off after got full of that

[uneven aspen]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[golden carbon]

What do you think about it

[uneven aspen]

petpeeve of mine 😔

[iron spoke]

sandleaf is super obnoxious. if you only use 1 planter and 1 seeder. it should only have half the output speed right? so I tried depoting the entire output and then throttling a half speed unloader to consume it and the depot is still filling up faster than it consumes lol.

[dark cipher]

It’s fine I can build some

[frigid dirge]

alr

[uneven aspen]

just checked mine they are clogging cause xiranite in teh stash is full

since im not running 100% xiranite i have 20/m extra yield

[frigid dirge]

[1] EFO01ouiI4275760aIieO

[brittle vale]

Does it matter if a pipe goes outside factory area and then goes back? I guess not, right?

[white dune]

make sum xiranite bottles!

[clear pivot]

its fine

[uneven aspen]

it doesnt work

[frigid dirge]

conduit got full of sewage and got clog, so i make this bigger

[white dune]

huh?

[uneven aspen]

😔

[white dune]

im jus saying make sum bottles, just ot temperarily help with the storage issue

and u can spray

:D

[uneven aspen]

im using up 100% ores

none left for bottles

[white dune]

even ferrium?

[uneven aspen]

yup making .55/m syringe c

[white dune]

r u transferring anything?

oh ok

[uneven aspen]

yup metatransfer dense orignium

[white dune]

30+25 ok

[uneven aspen]

making 1.66/m lc wuling

and using it as a thermal bank

[white dune]

oh huh

[dark cipher]

You’re a godsend

[frigid dirge]

i hope 7 sandleaf farm can hold 6 xeranite forge

[dark cipher]

I hate this water shit they got going on

[frigid dirge]

using conduit

outside of the base

[rare moon]

how are you using so much sandleaf

[frigid dirge]

it's all sandleaf

[olive basalt]

do you guys know any creators whose factories are more... modular? im tired of changing out factories entirely after every update. i dont want to do it anymore

[frigid dirge]

well if it work well, don't changing it

[olive basalt]

well i mean i have to since new stuff get added

like hetonite parts etc

[turbid bough]

This does not work as reactors only have a output of 1/s compared to the throughput of 2/s from pipes

[rare moon]

oh you're not burning jincao

[frigid dirge]

i just changing 1 since i first got to wuling

[frigid dirge]

yeah, it just for jincao stuff it kinda small

[subtle finch]

i actually used it, so check your facts

[frigid dirge]

and making jincao farm is bigger than sandleaf or buckle flower cuz it need water

[olive basalt]

bro i dont mean to be rude but where are you from

its kind of hard to understand you

[frigid dirge]

oh yeah, my english is reall a$$

[turbid bough]

and here I am trying to fix your clogging:

[tall tangle]

[true nebula]

wha

why not use one shredder

each shredder output 3 sandleaf powder

[frigid dirge]

oh yeah

[subtle finch]

maybe you didn't build it right

[frigid dirge]

man im gonna rebuild it again

[turbid bough]

its not about building it right, theoretically at max output it will always brick

[rare moon]

hf rearranging

[turbid bough]

and I build it just to be sure

[tall tangle]

tfw using water for forges is fine, but growing rice is taboo

[subtle finch]

ask others if max liquid out of crucibles is actually 1/s

[rare moon]

i just have my own module forge

[subtle finch]

im tired

[lost belfry]

This good enough an lc wuling battery? I want to add xircon and sc battery to it next

[frigid dirge]

i guess

u still have place to put more unloader depost so idk

[tall tangle]

reason for it to be 0.3?

[lost belfry]

Because it took me two to three weeks to have the simple small build occur in my mind. There where double the shredders/grinders depot stashes and other stuff

Also, how do I make this one more compact?

[glad needle]

Finally a working 1.25 sc wulbat production

[subtle finch]

[turbid bough]

dude, crucible output is 1/s . Pipes throughput is 2/s. This will brick from 3/s. max output of all facilities is 4/s. extended crucibles uses one which still leaves 3/s hence it clogs. The output closest to the unloaders always clogs in your setup the moment you feed all reactors. It doesnt work.

[wispy wren]

does someone here have the wuling walls ziplines that they can share?

[tall tangle]

sorry... i have more questions then answers here...

[candid radish]

reclaiming precious cuprium...

also its so funny how useless the names are on buildings

Fi...

S...

[lost belfry]

Shoot your shot, maybe I missed something totally obvious again

[rare moon]

so many treatments

[subtle finch]

instead of asking how to set it up right, you're correcting me with a wrong fact
explain how a 75% have 2 passthrough, and sends at the end with 1.5/s and working

[tall tangle]

well you didn't really answer why do you cope with 0.3 production efficiency. also with 2 stations

[turbid bough]

because you are CAPPED on cuprium output

[glad needle]

well yea gotta divided them until its 0.5/s

[frigid dirge]

it look good now

[subtle finch]

will you delete your endfield account if i show my 100% working?

[glad needle]

that took so much space xd

[subtle finch]

im lazy to try things for people

[rare moon]

was thinking you could converge to 1 treatment

[jovial breach]

Using sandleaf for carbon is crazy

[candid radish]

i cannot tell what is happening in that blueprint

[turbid bough]

I am gonna go talk to another wall, good luck next patch with your setup

[frigid dirge]

it's the best thing u can farm without water

[glad needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ai-generated-cat

[jovial breach]

You should use yazhen/jincao for carbon since they make double carbon

[frigid dirge]

save alot of space

[frigid dirge]

WHAT

[glad needle]

but it will save so much space

[lost belfry]

No clue how to max this efficiency thing and what do you mean with stations?

[frigid dirge]

boi i just know abt it

[forest talon]

Every time I visit my factory

[rare moon]

i have mines like this

[glad needle]

it also give you 2 instead of 1 carbon

[jovial breach]

It's ok i also didn't know about that until people told me

[brittle vale]

Same, was using old recepies for whole version

Game doesn't show it until you do it once on your own

[candid radish]

How are you making Xiranite without processing units?

[frigid dirge]

nawhhhh, not rebuild again

[jovial breach]

Thay one ori cube output wont magically turn into 3 💀

[dark cipher]

Is there only one ferrium ore in the whole of wuling???????

[rare moon]

1.25 bat

[shadow void]

BEHOLD, my (almost) entierly usless extra Xiranite/Ferrium into Xircon machine

[candid radish]

You are turning 1 belt of originium into 3. The point is to feed three FULL belts, not a split one

[brittle vale]

Yeah, one place with 90/min output

[subtle finch]

[jovial breach]

Oh right, but then just let it empty itself? Not like it would make a difference

[dark cipher]

Fucking dumb 😔

[candid radish]

5 xiranite, 15 originium, divide by 5 and you get how much you need to produce per 2sec

[dark cipher]

I need to make xircon

[brittle vale]

You don't really need that much unless you're crafting weakest syringes

[dark cipher]

Yea I need money rn

That’s what I’m doing atm

[brittle vale]

Probably 90 will be fine till next version for current late game

[candid radish]

Aren't you splitting the water 4-way for the cuprium?

[dark cipher]

I’ll let what I need stockpile ig

[shadow void]

Each reactor uses 0.5/s no?

[subtle finch]

there's 2 pumps at the beginning

[candid radish]

does it use 0.5??

[shadow void]

this is fine

[subtle finch]

it does

[rare moon]

would clog some sewage eventually on the other bats i would think

[candid radish]

wait you mean the cuprium is cooking at half efficiency

[jovial breach]

Feel like you can improve those refineries layout...

[candid radish]

hence half water usage

[subtle finch]

it was an old ss

[shadow void]

0.5/s

[subtle finch]

and we're getting treatment fac soon

[candid radish]

I don't see what's half here

[jovial breach]

Check purification unit

[tall tangle]

lemme zoom in

[subtle finch]

no, it uses 0.5/s at full efficiency 😭

[candid radish]

The pipe is 2 water/2s, each cuprium refiner requires 1/s, one pipe is feeding 4 refiners

[shadow void]

O_o

[vast iron]

One per 2 seconds, is half per second

[jovial breach]

Pipe is 2/s

[vast iron]

Pump is just weird because its 1 per second

[candid radish]

Stupid pumps

Yeah

[jovial breach]

The real weird thing is fluid supply unit

3/s

[vast iron]

Not bad, just inconsistent

[jovial breach]

[candid radish]

It's /2s everywhere else

I guess I'm way overwatering my cuprium

cuz I split 1 pipe for 2 refiners

[shadow void]

pump is 1/s, pipe is 2/s, 2 pumps to a pipe

[vast iron]

1 pump per 2 refiners

[shadow void]

reactors 0.5/s each

4 reactors per pipe

[rare moon]

1 pump is 2 refiners

[candid radish]

So 1 pump can handle 2 pipes?

[vast iron]

Pipe doesnt matter unless youre putting more than 2 pumps per pipe

[tall tangle]

almost everywhere

[rare moon]

put 2 pumps to pipe to 4 refiners

[shadow void]

are you doing this on purpose

[vast iron]

2 pumps cap out a pipe

[candid radish]

whaaat...

have i been doing it right by accident

[lost belfry]

Like this then? Should I set up a second dense originium farm just in case?

[candid radish]

do i just have half full pipes everywhere

[shadow void]

One pump produces 1 water a second, a pipe can handle 2 water a second, a reactor consumed 0.5 water a second. Hence a pipe can handle 4 reactors

[jovial breach]

That's good but pls dont use all those thermal banks 💀

[vast iron]

Kek

[rare moon]

your pipes are 1/s

[candid radish]

thats crazy. ive been overpiping everything

[jovial breach]

Holy...

[gaunt quail]

i've found an issue when using water pipes and a manifold setup (chain of serial splitters), where the last refineries continue to starve, even when pre-filled. As soon as I swapped to a 'load-balance' (binary tree type setup), the refineries were fine. Even the pumps were intermittently clogging on the manifold.

[shadow void]

Yes tho, brain farts happen

[candid radish]

i just got done setting everything up

well, except meds

so those can use this exciting new pipe technology

[tall tangle]

uh... better i guess. now store excess of batteries and recalculate how much thermal banks you need

[vast iron]

Are the first refiners clogged yet?

[shadow void]

i've stared at something for hours, when the answer was just alternating inputs

[jovial breach]

Pipe can only transfer 2/s max, so if you use more than 2 splitters it wont work

[frigid dirge]

bro, i have no clue abt doing jincao as carbon

[candid radish]

also i wanna cry cuz i completely forgot i can just send stuff THROUGH reactors to make their stupid unflippability work

[frigid dirge]

1jincao = 2 carbon -> sherding = 4 so what now

[candid radish]

too much sandleaf, one sandleaf produces 3 powder

[vast iron]

Refiner into 2 carbons (2 belts)
Each carbon into shred (2 output belts aswell
2 carbon powder belts per grinder

[shadow void]

split once, 1/s and 1/s, then split 2 more times, on each 1/s line and you get 0.5/s on 4 lines for 4 reactors. so 3 not 2

[candid radish]

such a gross abomination

anyway it works... cba...

[tall tangle]

hints

[candid radish]

got my 12/m batteries and 3/m hetonite

[warped delta]

The power of 2nd grade math

[jovial breach]

Not what i mean, no more than 2 splitters in a serie

[rare moon]

my power thing

[gaunt quail]

wdym? 2/s into 1 splitter = 2 branches of 1/s. Put the 1/s branch into another splitter and it becomes 0.5/s. a fully fed pipe at 2/s, using 2 pumps, should eventually balances out using a manifold setup, as the 1st refinery fills first, then the 2nd, etc. Except it didn't. Even pre-filling the refineries found the last ones starving. Merely changing the branches around into a load-balance setup made it work

[candid radish]

the AIC jail

[brittle vale]

Three more forges of the sky and it is looking presentable (don't mind the cat)

[vast iron]

Theres a ingame configurable pwm setup now, although its quite big

[jovial breach]

I don't see why it shouldn't work, can you send a picture of your setup perhaps you might did something wrong

[warped delta]

The full water pipe into 4 reactors definitely works as long as you split them evenly.

[tall tangle]

4 anything really

[gaunt quail]

Nah. Its all changed now. There was nothing wrong with it. Spent several hours testing it. I think i've read similar comments over on reddit where others found it happen. Idk what was going on.

[vast iron]

Even split is unnecessary since those getting more will just clog lol

[warped delta]

It may have issues as manifold bc pipes are ultimately "fast belts" under the hood. So that splitting function can cause stuff not to arrive in time I guess

[frigid dirge]

this is the best thing i can do

[tacit quarry]

hmm... I just notice something about this patch
we almost don't have enough point for purchasing all Catalyst
Catalyst require about 14.4M
while we making daily about 1.8-2.5M
which mean if you are not min-max and do all delivery, you wont have enough point for all Catalyst

[vast iron]

Very interesting considering it shouldnt be happening theoretically

[warped delta]

I use the output manifold for cuprium.now and just feed 1 pipe each into 2 refineries

[shadow void]

just do 10 artifice a day

[jovial breach]

You can buy out those without doing delivery if you get decent net profit from selling goods, but well just do delivery to be sure i guess

[tacit quarry]

how is everyone income report what's the average?

[tall tangle]

need to recheck recipes

[brittle vale]

Wuling doesn't allow anything

[candid radish]

oh my god bro. this pipe stuff

everything was so overengineered

fuck me

why arent they sticking to /2s

[jovial breach]

That only shows 3 days, it doesn't help much

[candid radish]

better yet, why arent they doing /1s

[elfin elm]

I think it's enough since I'll never buy the 75% one, I could just save those credits for the next week

[shadow void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial breach]

You can totally buy them all

Even without doing 3 extra delivery every day

[vast iron]

3500 net profit could be hard if you get unlucky tho

[warped delta]

You have enough in Wuling to buy out everything as long as you ran 2 batteries and the A. To get more you could setup a partial C as well. Or even import batteries from V4 and sell all Wuling batteries. But you're limited by outpost bill generation

[shadow void]

They wanna appeal to ppl that enjoy a bit of ACTUAL factory play, rather than just be another game that places X amount of buildings and be done

[tacit quarry]

impossible. unless you are also lucky with elastic good

[jovial breach]

But yes you gotta hit at least 3.5k net profit from selling elastic to be sure

But im sure it's enough with just 3k profit

[elfin elm]

True but it's too rare to find one

[warped delta]

And now we have the large depot crates and better environmental obs and a 2nd one too. Plenty now

[rare moon]

this does not look like it works

[vast iron]

3.5k realistically buying for 1k -> ~ -40%
And selling at 4.5k -> ~ max range

[frigid dirge]

idk, cuz it will have 4 carbon powder

i guess i gonna clog or sum

[rare moon]

still need to refine them

[jovial breach]

3k net profit means 2.6m a week already and it's really easy to hit above that

[warped delta]

I was buying them all before this patch even with only my personal crate and selling at 350% profit

[candid radish]

why couldnt they have given us 30 more cuprium

[shadow void]

could also just not buy the -75% catalysts

[candid radish]

now its gonna be working at 66% or something

[tacit quarry]

3k profit is more relistic

[jovial breach]

You shouldn't look at % difference, look at their actual price instead

[vast iron]

Just make 4.5 hetonit components

[jovial breach]

A 500% increase can be worse than a 300% increase

[candid radish]

cant sell those

[tacit quarry]

I think they will, when Test area release on May 14th

[vast iron]

You can

Outpost 1

[tall tangle]

why 30?

[vast iron]

Outpost 1 buys hetonite components

[candid radish]

cuz after 3 hetonite, 4 cuprium are used and 2 are left

[vast iron]

Its slightly more value per copium too

[candid radish]

oh what the hell

[autumn maple]

it meant, he will takes any extra copium mine

[warped delta]

I sell if it's 4500 or above

[tall tangle]

about that...

[vast iron]

[candid radish]

are you thinking of parts

[autumn maple]

still 3 weeks left sadge

[candid radish]

auuuuuuuugh

[warped delta]

And I buy at 1000 or below unless I can buy say 1200 and sell 5k that day

[vast iron]

3/min hetonite would be

[sharp pier]

Help pls

[vast iron]

Insanely low ratio

[sharp pier]

can i dump sewage back into clean water

[vast iron]

[frigid dirge]

ah no, just making xeranite no heavy one

[candid radish]

ok but why are you telling me hetonite components can be sold at outpost 1

[vast iron]

NOe

[sharp pier]

my Cuprium is blocked

[sharp pier]

FUCK

[sick basin]

Treat it

[candid radish]

its maxed and they cant

[tacit quarry]

actually you know what make it 60 curpium in next update, so we can ran Hetonite at 100%
and maybe ferrium or Originium too

[vast iron]

Yes you must be a good environmenr boi and make treatment facilitu

[uneven aspen]

monitoring center+ elastic goods probably helps out

[sick basin]

We are getting +0 on 14th

[vast iron]

Nah

[gaunt quail]

oh wait. I did keep the blueprint for posterity. The one of the left fails always, the one of the right doesn't. Everything else outside blueprint hasn't changed (external piping all the same).

[jovial breach]

Different goods have different peak price you should sell when you see they are close to the peak
4.6k for low goods (4.7k peak)
4.9k for medium goods (5k peak)
5.3k for high goods (5.4k peak)

[frigid dirge]

okay it not working

[candid radish]

liar liar pants on fire

[vast iron]

¿¿??¿¿

[candid radish]

it buys hetonite parts

components are for gear

[rare moon]

1 jincao makes 2 carbon to shred

[sharp pier]

okay water treatment plant

[autumn maple]

they gated us with ferrium kinda criminal tho. only 90 is way too much if they keep adding content

[sharp pier]

dang it

[vast iron]

Oh

[vast iron]

Spelling

My bad

[candid radish]

"spelling"

[vast iron]

Components and parts are close enough that i mess them up all the time

[candid radish]

anyway so the play is to ignore meds and sink everything into hetonite?

[vast iron]

Yes

[candid radish]

that honestly kind of sucks tbh

oh well

[vast iron]

Slightly more value per hetonite

[candid radish]

i like making meds

[vast iron]

Like

44 vs 48

[vast iron]

[autumn maple]

yes, if we are talking about selling. hetonite is more profit

[vivid forge]

then make some, and switch off meds once you have a stockpile

[tall tangle]

.5 meds + .5 heto is valid

[uneven aspen]

then make some meds, Im using 30/m cuprium on syringe A

[candid radish]

i dont think i can be bothered i will just make med

[uneven aspen]

the profits should be the same/similar

more than enough to buyout the outpost

[warped delta]

Idc it doesn't matter... I already have 100 artificing things, 65 etching and all outpost upgrades.

[candid radish]

bottle being 2 material trips me up every time too

god

[tacit quarry]

I think they can fit only 1 more base since UI will be too long

[autumn maple]

can always have scroll feature or something

[vast iron]

Yep

[vast iron]

That is weird indeed

[vivid forge]

once you get Marked Stone outpost to level 2 you can start selling SC batteries. So I've been mainly selling Heavy Xiranite and SC batteries. It's a very good rate.

[vast iron]

No clue how it could be happening ngl

[jovial breach]

Me when long ass outpost name

[vast iron]

Splitters like that work in theory

[tacit quarry]

HG doesnt do that their UI always compact, unless it's report or spread sheet

[uneven aspen]

you want 50% of cuprium to bottles and 50% to parts

opps reply faild:

[uneven aspen]

^

[vast iron]

Xiranite dam Main pillar left side second floor core feranmut research center square area soon (source: me)

[candid radish]

i really hope they add flipping buildings

its so annoying when you realize you just happened to start on the wrong side because of the stupid liquid ports

[vast iron]

Well at least the other recipe being 10 + 5 balances it out

[shadow void]

invert feature when?

[vast iron]

So the usage total for bottle and parts is the same

[vast iron]

Breaks every fluid build

[sharp pier]

ok so i made it

and then--- it's gone?

no more stashing fluid tanks?

[shadow void]

priority spliters too

that let you select what and how much go thru each port

[sick basin]

Yes
Just plug sewage into that and its done

[vast iron]

Oops
#1476003772890218638
Advertising opportunity sighted

Discovered in 1.0

[sharp pier]

yay! infinite cuprium

thank you

[gaunt quail]

Right? Both pumps at the other end of the pipe were even blipping to clogged for fractions of a second. Totally bizarre. I must admit, I've lost complete trust in that manifold setup now. I'm just going to make sure I never have a split piping down to such small fractional units and hope to never encounter it again

[subtle finch]

im coining a simple term that we should start using

[tall tangle]

keep in mind. 1 treatment per 1 sewage output

[warped delta]

I don't know if we'll get a 3rd outpost. I think we're mostly done in Wuling aren't we?

[vast iron]

The main question is if the cuprium rate was affected, and how severrly

[subtle finch]

i noticed many issue with systems, especially involving pipes and crucibles is the entire system cannot start with materials already inside

[tacit quarry]

right now there are only 1 close are left which is here

[vast iron]

Thats just called setup

[subtle finch]

so simply call them no-prefill or cannot prefill

[vivid forge]

There's another small area and then the entire Northern Exclusion zone, which by it's name implies there's other exclusion zones.

[subtle finch]

this is actually a huge issue, especially with 4x half xiranite systems

[vast iron]

Perhaps we can start making a seperate blueprint for all the non-prefillable ones and pasting seperately

[warped delta]

Keep in mind pipes are basically fast belts, so when doing low flow into a splitter you can see it exit to the left first then the right etc. so it maybe preferring one side over the other and causing it to fall behind

[gaunt quail]

it had gone bad. noticed it from the graph first, and went to investigate.

[candid radish]

i have to say, 2 xircon -> 4 inert effluent -> purify into one active xircon effluent -> paying for heavy xiranite is so good and elegant

[subtle finch]

yeah, i noticed it when people copy my screenshot by hand, and items/fluids slowly build up
while those who use the bp had no problem

[vast iron]

This shouldnt be the case because there are no spots where it exceeds the maximum flowrate

[rare moon]

your jincao is only half its product
carbon shred only produces 2 powder which is being split by 3
grinders are half efficiency*2/3
middle grinder is 2/3 efficiency with too much sandleaf but splitting by 2
grinders product aren't being refined

[shadow void]

2/s pipe, I place one splitter, I can tell 1/s go left, 0.5 straight, 05.s right. Can I have something like this?

[safe cloak]

do u guys think we are getting more new components and parts again in the next version

[vast iron]

Not a preference issue either because there is exactly enough water to sustain all facilities, and if there was an imbalanced it is fixed via clogging

[candid radish]

i think if theres no reason to rebuild the factory in a patch its not a good patch

[gaunt quail]

Convergers and mergers oddities, now this with pipes. It's hard to know what designs are stable or not.

[warped delta]

Have you tried having a fluid tank as a buffer in the system?

[shadow void]

yes i can place multiple splitters, but why, why cant i have one

[candid radish]

i should do something with this...

[shadow void]

Purify it

[candid radish]

wish there was priority splitters

[earnest steeple]

Because how is anyone supposed to know which of the 3 outlets is the 1/s one without some sort of designation?

[vast iron]

Issue isnt oversupply, its undersupplying somehow

[shadow void]

I want to designate it

[vast iron]

The pipe is capped so adding a tank wont make more water flow

[candid radish]

im looking forward to future regions bringing underground belts and priority splitters

[earnest steeple]

That's why you add the second splitter.

[shadow void]

make 2, one that just splits it normally, and another that lets you select it

[rare moon]

collection

[warped delta]

Has anyone found a good use for the new pipe manifolds yet?

[candid radish]

true i should fill it into all types of bottle

[vast iron]

Cough cough

[rare moon]

skipping trips, less facilities

[vast iron]

We have priority splitters

Its jusf

Not an official facility

[subtle finch]

no, but i found a new use for for the regulars conduit

[candid radish]

weird logic abuse doesnt count

[shadow void]

You have ppl making arrays of splitters to do things one thing could fix

[earnest steeple]

Like people are asking for priority splitters and there are good blueprints to do that. Theres even one for liquids, which I thought was genius.

[candid radish]

but whats it like?

[vast iron]

If it works it works

[tall tangle]

feeding all rice with just 1

[vast iron]

#1476003772890218638

[candid radish]

very cool; didn't read

[vast iron]

[rare moon]

if it works it works. it just works

[candid radish]

well, i will need to read cuz im kinda tilted by having a lot of random crap in storage that could be fed into something

[pulsar sphinx]

finally no more clogging but idk what is happening anymore

[frigid dirge]

i guess it gonna wasted few sandleaf and carbon powder

[rare moon]

grinder to refiner to forge

[candid radish]

symmetry is non-optional huh

[vast iron]

Compared to all the other bug-abuse or niche things ive made priosplitter is definitely the simplest and most flexible
Others are... questionable

[subtle finch]

i can tell you where it came from

[frigid dirge]

well it can make one more forge of the sky

[uneven aspen]

when we can do 100% hetonite, gonna do 3 pumps of acid, then split in half via the manifold. Manifolds can move 4/s of liquid so the alternative is 2 conduits inlet/outlets versus 1 manifold outlet/inlet

[pulsar sphinx]

pls no

[candid radish]

man ive had less work making way more impressive things in factorio

[subtle finch]

okay

[candid radish]

i cant quite pin down what it is thats stumping me so much

i guess underground belts, splitters and inserters instead of fixed ports make it all so much more manageable

and when they do fixed ports, like on oil refinery, you can flip the building

[shadow void]

"when" they do fixed ports?

[candid radish]

also just the whole "has to work on a gamepad" thing

[vast iron]

Flipping water port direction is definitely something we need

[rare moon]

carbon shred only makes 2 so you're still 2/3

[uneven aspen]

yeah makes no sense purfication can't swap the outputs

[candid radish]

reactor crucible pisses me OFF with that

[uneven aspen]

it makes extra pipe bridging for me

[vast iron]

That too

But refineries is the bigger issue

[frigid dirge]

no, refining jincao make 2 carbon, 1 carbon = 2 powder so its 4

[subtle finch]

@vast iron look at the crucible ui above with full xiranite, that's one example of the thing i was saying
if you disconnect sewage for any reason, it will build up in the refiner/conduit, and that burst will choke the system

[frigid dirge]

hold on

[candid radish]

like, oops! you put your liquid output on the wrong side! now route the liquid around the entire thing

[frigid dirge]

2 for one oh yeah

[candid radish]

or just go somewhere else

annoying empty space in top right cuz i wouldve had to lead the stupid pipe all the way around to the other side of the filling unit

cuz it cant be flipped

[rare moon]

YA its 4 but you have 6 outputs

[candid radish]

also insane how this only ever needed one pipe and one set of farms. i will be cursed by this pipe stuff for weeks

all because i misread like 1 thing

and stuck with it for MONTHS

[vast iron]

What

[frigid dirge]

I just noticed

[sharp pier]

can i not do the splitter thing or it's more ok to just do 1 treatment plant per 1 refining unit [for cuprium?]

[vast iron]

Wah i do

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
this, by simply cutting of the sewage pipe by a bit, it is already considered prefill

[candid radish]

it is one treatment plant per refining unit

[subtle finch]

that's how most clogs happen

[candid radish]

you can merge the pipes coming out of 2 refining units until you reach your treatment location, then split it there on-site into two plants

[subtle finch]

the more you know~

[vast iron]

That crucible already looks weird to begin qith

They have a clogged bottom pipe too

[subtle finch]

probably a half liquid xiranite system

[tall tangle]

you can move up to 4 waste in 1 pipe and then split to 4 treatmentU

[subtle finch]

water can be ignored

[vast iron]

If thats the case its operating full efficiency?

[frigid dirge]

so it gonna be like this

[vast iron]

[subtle finch]

yes

[rare moon]

grinder needs to be refined

grinder makes dense carbon which isnt the correct carbon

[vast iron]

So like

[candid radish]

could it be that you're simply treating too much waste from the crucible

[vast iron]

Issue where

[candid radish]

i had to realize that my extended crucibles need to each feed half a treatment unit

else it would eat too much sewage

[vast iron]

Pretty sure thats a design that requires ~ half xiranite input

So like

Well i think i get what you mean

[candid radish]

huh, why would you do that

[vast iron]

I meant sewage

Brain lag

[candid radish]

ah

well

[subtle finch]

this, many use this stupid thing

[candid radish]

as we established

all my pipes are half

smile

[vast iron]

Any design that requires input of an item it produces is prefill susceptible indeed

[vast iron]

Isnt this just breaks naturally

[subtle finch]

also, basically any pipe that sends 2 different type of fluid, those are also dead if you pre-fill
this is actually a huge psa

[vast iron]

Oh wait no

4 15s?

[pulsar sphinx]

i still don't understand how it work please don't ask me about this crucible
Edit: there is one xircon effluent stuck in the pipe but water can still go through

[subtle finch]

so long as it starts at 0, and only receive either half xiranite lane, or half sewage

[vast iron]

Transmutation

[subtle finch]

the funny thing is they get it working by placing the system over and over, until the pre-fill drains, and they don't know how they fixed it

[vast iron]

That works usually

Just stash and place it again

I honestly dread what they will do when they get their hands on a complicated design

[subtle finch]

another case above

clogged from prefill

[candid radish]

i have perfect sewage equilibrium in one machine and then back and forth in the other

but i think its all just visual and unimportant

[vast iron]

Just realized since our forge swap is bottle based if it gets prefilled it explodrs

[subtle finch]

they expect it to output at separating unit rate, so i think it's fine

[vast iron]

Im scared they will somehow desync it

[candid radish]

i really want to be able to designate low priority unloaders that shut off when depot is below x of the unloaded item

cant wait for this game to evolve more

[vast iron]

YESS

Unloader priority we really cant do rn

[rare moon]

wonder what the next region will bring

[candid radish]

like i have so much crap just sitting there

[shadow void]

Refineries that can take the ore and a bottle with liquid, and output refined ore and empty bottle

[candid radish]

so i bake extra dense originium from it

but i have to shut it off at some point else my batteries will explode

[vast iron]

[candid radish]

cuz they cant just substitute in existing dense, they expect ore

[rare moon]

would the next region also use xiranite and then valley IV the only xiraniteless

[candid radish]

unlikely

xiranite is deeply entwined with wuling

[vast iron]

I mean i do have a "depot IsEmpty" detector but turning it on without triggers would have to be manual

[candid radish]

its the china water nation region

[subtle finch]

i cant imagine us going back to normal relay though

players would riot

[rare moon]

so then we might have to manually connect towers again

[vast iron]

New type of relay perhaps

Like idk

Throwable

[candid radish]

its probably quite fine after the qol changes of 1.1

the main problem was getting disconnected in cutscenes

[vast iron]

When can we like

[candid radish]

if you were a good and diligent and real gamer, you always just brought in the power line from the last region in v4

[vast iron]

Airdrop relays like perlica

[candid radish]

i did that and was just trolled by cutscenes killing the line

wuling made powerlines kinda boring...

[vast iron]

Pipes compensate ig?

[candid radish]

i want next region to have normal powerlines again BUT a zipline tower with inbuilt power relay

[subtle finch]

okay hear me out

[shadow void]

man all those etchspace ziplines

[subtle finch]

electric pipes

[candid radish]

because the most annoying part is having to place a relay/pylon next to each zipline

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

Imagine pipes that can carry liquids and items

All in 1

With increased flowrate

[subtle finch]

more clog

[candid radish]

i kind of expect an elemental theme

[vast iron]

And you need like a special facility to combine and seperate them or sm

[candid radish]

theres gonna be a fire region with lava pipes

[subtle finch]

it's a given it will come

[candid radish]

like vulcanus

[subtle finch]

they teased snow and kjerag-theme so much

[candid radish]

north would have warmth mechanic

idk

space age already gave htem everything they need

[tall tangle]

^

[candid radish]

just do what space age did

[vast iron]

Heat mechanic soon trust

[shadow void]

we gonna be pumping up lava

[candid radish]

i will not mind at all if they just steal all of space age

[vast iron]

Need to heat up your facilities or they break (pylon v2 hahaha)

[candid radish]

fulgora can fuck off

[shadow void]

then, we gonna be mining ice

[subtle finch]

imagine the next region just sends you to download page of whiteout survival

[candid radish]

glacier ice to cool overheating mechanisms

[vast iron]

Liquid hydrogen new liquid

Or smt like that

[shadow void]

once we walk in, we cant get out till we build all of the factory

[candid radish]

gas does kinda go through pipes too

so i guess gas wouldnt add any new gameplay

thats just liquid 2

[vast iron]

Liquid batteries?

Liquid based thermal bank would be cool

[candid radish]

mhm

[shadow void]

Super Critical Batteries

[vast iron]

Battery acid mhmmm

[candid radish]

farm alluvium by detonating your nuclear battery

[subtle finch]

you will need to heat your facilities with heat pylons or they will freeze

[vast iron]

Nuclear reactor wen

[candid radish]

we kinda started the game with space cancer rock as the basic copper ore so idk if nuclear would even happen

what can be more dangerous than originium

[vast iron]

Yes and then you need to power them with elec too

One of my other thoughts was hydro pump but it needs like factory processed acid to mine

Since the ore is very hard

Or lubrication

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

that's called a

[vast iron]

But we know no sane dev is adding lubrication to a gacha game

[rare moon]

super originium nuc reactor

[wind dock]

Anyone got EU blueprints for the liquid xiranite or liquid heavy xiranite bottles for cleaning the corruption thing? Too lazy to figure that out

[brazen vortex]

Guys what is wrong with my yield? This is the only place I am using cuprium ore. It was fine before, but now it's like this? I dunno what's going on.

It's like my cuprium ore isn't getting mined properly anymore.

[shadow void]

disconnected power?

[candid radish]

can metatransfer of dense originium from v4 upkeep SC production for the thermal bank?

[brazen vortex]

Oh.

That's it, thanks.

[rare moon]

if you're making heavy xiranite, just add acid and heavy xiranite in a crucible and you get liquid heavy xiranite

[candid radish]

1500 / 15 = 100 batteries per hour

each is 40 seconds

so uh no...

no it cant...

[shadow void]

another reason it'd be under the theorical is if cuprium ore was at 68k

[uneven aspen]

since valley is suppose to be UWST, wuling for HAS, next stop should be TGCC, i have no idea what kind of environment for there

[rare moon]

what

[uneven aspen]

actually . . .

[shadow void]

Hopefuly I'll get to see more about Avywenna then

[rare moon]

sc or lc

[tall tangle]

sc would be hard to make

[candid radish]

lc

i have wuling's 480 originium tied up fully in sc

and import dense from v4 for some surplus lc

[tall tangle]

probably yes ... ?

[candid radish]

i just dont like having to spend 2 sc batteries on power

[rare moon]

you'd have to limit the thermal bank to use lc at 1.25/min

[shadow void]

i splurged on the extra SC

[candid radish]

well whatever

[raven finch]

n someone tell me the purpose for of "expanded crucible"?? I understand u can create 8 slots of fluid right? But what's the point of having 8 slots of fluid when u can only send fluids into 2 output pipes?

[rare moon]

so metatransfer would make 1.25 for you to use 1.25

[candid radish]

basically the point is making xircon in a single building from xiranite

all the inbetween steps

all done in parallel at once

[rare moon]

but with that much power, lc isnt enough since you'd be underpowered

[turbid bough]

apparently reading is too hard for you

[rare moon]

i switched from lc to making 13.25 sc using 2.25/min

[raven finch]

Is expanded crucible necessary?? I can just use normal crucible right?

[candid radish]

well youre kinda trolling yourself if you dont use it tbh

but nothings necessary

[tall tangle]

you can use 4 normal ones and lose a lot of space yes

[subtle finch]

it can save on power and space if you use it right

[raven finch]

Ok

[rare moon]

i cant math

[shadow void]

This is what i'm doing with the extra ferrium and xiranite

[brazen vortex]

This is before and after without and with expanded crucible.

[rare moon]

1.5+0.75

[brazen vortex]

It's a big space gain.

[rare moon]

im using a sc at 0.75/min?

ok ya im using 1.5 sc + 0.75 sc which is 20s downtime so i have 11/min extra

[subtle finch]

[raven finch]

Anyone else wanna help me setup aic in marker stone? Pm for details

Can pay in PayPal

All this aic stuff too complicated

[brazen vortex]

Just look up guides on YouTube, some people make blueprints that you can copy.

[raven finch]

I did

I still dont get it

[brazen vortex]

[subtle finch]

do you know what you're trying to make?

[raven finch]

Just heavy xiranite n hetonite for gear crafting

I rather PayPal someone to help me set it up

[brazen vortex]

You have to do it.

[raven finch]

[brazen vortex]

Start by putting pumps next to the acid lake.

Hetonite production is pretty isolated and is the only thing you need acid for.

[rare moon]

mines is just this

dw bout the left

[shadow void]

Liquid Hvy Xiranite . . .

[rare moon]

i ran out of heavy xiranite so i turned it off

[raven finch]

Too complicated

[subtle finch]

#1494628329851064402 message

[brazen vortex]

You just have to copy someone's design.

Pick one you think is simple.

[shadow void]

but, good thing is, you dont need liquid hvy xiranite for anything really. you can clear the blight with regular liquid xir

[brazen vortex]

Even if you don't wanna use blueprints, you should at least be able to look at someone's factory and go from there.

[raven finch]

Still hard for me to buikd

[brazen vortex]

Are you on a phone or something?

[raven finch]

No

I just don't get it

[tall tangle]

dont expect to convince someone with such a request. aint gonna change

[brazen vortex]

You can do it!

[raven finch]

Im not convinced anyone

U might be overthinking a bit

[tall tangle]

not you. them convincing you to actually play the game

[raven finch]

Show many acid pumpers i need?

[brazen vortex]

I'm using 3.

[raven finch]

The more the better?

[brazen vortex]

3 minimum guaranteed.

[tall tangle]

2 =.5. 3=.75 heto

[brazen vortex]

So just put 3 first.

[raven finch]

My lvl 90 fangyi is armourless

[subtle finch]

[shadow void]

Gonna need those Heto Comps

[tall tangle]

if you only want armor, 1 might suffice. tho it'll be slow

[shadow void]

good thing is, you dont need 68k of them

[frigid dirge]

save alot of space, thx for noticed me that jincao can make 2 carbon

[brazen vortex]

Do you know how to duplicate the things you've built?

[raven finch]

No

[brazen vortex]

Are you on PC?

[frigid dirge]

what, u can?

[raven finch]

Yep

[frigid dirge]

but how, and duplicate what

[subtle finch]

im free to help if you want, just bored

[brazen vortex]

Like this:

[raven finch]

How u going to help me :0

[brazen vortex]

So you can just build something once and repeat it multiple times.

[subtle finch]

however you want

[frigid dirge]

oh

it's copy

[brazen vortex]

@raven finchdo you know how to do the thing in the video I sent?

[final escarp]

I wish this game let me customise the max speed of belts and pipes

I'm sick of having to use priority flow for everything

[warped delta]

That's in part what the depot crates are for. You can dump most stuff into that and ship it out for some value

[shadow void]

Yeah, we can't have nice things tho

[rare moon]

2.0 feature trust

[candid radish]

if you wanna log onto my account and place 68000 originium ore in 226 protocol stashes i appreciate it

[final escarp]

I also wish this game had like a mini space to experiment with the factory
I don't have time to rebuild my factory in 1 sitting everytime there's an update...
It'll be good to have a mode where we can experiment with different factory layouts but without having to demolish the factory everytime
At least then I can work on improvements bit by bit

[warped delta]

No, but you can equalize your production so it doesn't build up and dump 9k of it a day into a cargo crate ...

[shadow void]

Plus i dont wanna stop my factory from working

[warped delta]

You're naturally limited by stock bills and other resources to produce products, so there is no point in hording

[warped delta]

There is a website for that I think to lay out factories

[shadow void]

enkad

[subtle finch]

we have a pretty good sim

[shadow void]

problem is

you cant export bps

[warped delta]

Sure, but even setting it up there helps a lot

[final escarp]

Cool what's it called haha

[rare moon]

enka

[shadow void]

https://enkad.enka.network/

theres other ones too i believe

[final escarp]

Ok hopefully i can maintain my sanity now instead of having to set aside 5hrs in 1 sitting just to set up my factory

[shadow void]

again tho, you cant export the bps from there into the game

[brazen vortex]

OK so someone was saying enhanced crucible here would be better for making Hetonite, but I still don't get it. What exactly would I gain by replacing the crucible on the lower left with an enhanced one? Like, what would I be making there?

[tough berry]

its mostly for saving space since enchances can do both the liquid blood + heto so instead of 5 ceucible you endup with 3 cru + 1 high cru

[rare moon]

1 less crucible

[tough berry]

outcome same thouhh XD only space saved

[rare moon]

and power

[tough berry]

nah high is 100 power

the power output same

[rare moon]

what the

[brazen vortex]

Oh I see.

[rare moon]

1 less facility space

[brazen vortex]

Well, this is fine.

[raven finch]

Looks complicated

[brazen vortex]

No it's not! Just copy my buildings.

[rare moon]

also you only need 2 purifiers

[ruby sorrel]

why running purification 2:1 instead of 4:1

[brazen vortex]

It's right next to the acid lake too.

[brazen vortex]

But then it's ugly.

[rare moon]

make a 8 version for the eventual expansion

[ruby sorrel]

if you keep all of the crucibles on you can just passthrough and combine

[brazen vortex]

When that day comes I'm gonna have to rip the other side of my factory to make more space anyway.

[foggy horizon]

do outputs on machines (like packaging units) have some sort of priority or something? cause ive got 2 outputs going to subpac on my batteries and 2 going into thermal banks and the banks just arent getting anything ever

[brazen vortex]

So I'll just remake something new.

[iron stratus]

without starting clogged does 1 fluid pump really keep 3 pure nodes at full speed

[brazen vortex]

Do you know how to enter the view from the top?

[iron stratus]

i've noticed hydro rigs stop working after a few days without overfeeding water

[shadow void]

Hvy Xiranite is just 10 raw Xiranite and 5 Xiranite processed 2 times. . .

[tough berry]

they compressed it so much to turn it to mini bomb XD

[tall tangle]

look inside drill and see for yourself how much it needs

[shadow void]

carbon+water+sewage=hvy xiranite

[rare moon]

high purity is 3s and pump gets 1/s so theres 3 water in 3s

[iron stratus]

i know how much each needs

[iron stratus]

yes but it doesnt actually do that

[shadow void]

Heavy Xircon is next

[iron stratus]

splitter shenanigans make the rigs run out of water in my experience, even with perfect supply

[raven finch]

Yes that i understand

[tough berry]

did you make sure to use proper split since some split make the travel longer which i think the error you expericences

[tall tangle]

splitting in 3 directions with 1?

[raven finch]

Guys im about 55 year old. Im not good at games

[iron stratus]

yep 3 way splitter out of conduit

[rare moon]

show how yours look

[tough berry]

sigh how i wish they make feacture where its transfer 1 area raw ore supply to others per min so can make more stuff in wuling since valley is dead lel

[rare moon]

if only there was 5/min more in transfer

[brazen vortex]

Show us what you have to far so we can tell you what to do.

[subtle finch]

why are we showing our hydro rigs

[rare moon]

that should work

[tall tangle]

person with water problems @subtle finch

[subtle finch]

[rare moon]

dont need a conduit anyway

[subtle finch]

there's 2 possible reason why it idles

[iron stratus]

at my aic area i have two pumps into a conduit, a conduit out at the ferrium node that i two-way split one side to the pure nodes there and the other goes to a conduit that i routed over to these 3 pure nodes

[tall tangle]

might be odd/even numbers problem. so i usually split in 2, but other than that i'm not sure. and 3 ways works for others, so...

[subtle finch]

before the pump gets into the conduit, does it split somewhere else?

[feral sparrow]

Is this an efficient way to get Originium ore?

[rare moon]

i'd need a picture

[brazen vortex]

What do I do with Yazhen again to get carbon?

[subtle finch]

basically, you can't have 3 series of splitters, even if there's conduit in between
try to split it more evenly. im assuming that's the issue

[rare moon]

refine yazhen

[subtle finch]

or you didnt count high and low purity nodes properly

[rare moon]

you get 2 carbon

[tall tangle]

or shred refine. it'll be dust

[brazen vortex]

Thanks.

[rare moon]

ya either shred first or refine first

[subtle finch]

this is how i assume what happened, the inlet needs to be connected before the 2nd splitter
or just separate the pumps

[tawny bear]

ah, beautiful material efficiency =w=

that ferrium was bugging me for a while before 1.2 =3=

[unique forge]

any neat blueprints for more power better than this one?

[subtle finch]

look for 6 forge layout in the bp channel, those usually have lossless sandleaf

[rare cobalt]

the low framerate must mean im operating at peak performance

[tawny bear]

I gt this cool setup that's relatively larger but can be cut in half

[subtle finch]

oh mb, i thought its a xiranite production only

[warped delta]

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[subtle finch]

the dude is still in making LC

[iron stratus]

wasting so much power

that 30 excess water could go to the other cuprium bed

[ruby sorrel]

weird splits

[warped delta]

What are you talking about?

[subtle finch]

do you have efficient power lines though

[rare cobalt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/da-fuck-the-fuck--k01KPY87BF3V15M7NKTM063T4KX

[subtle finch]

dude is likely minmaxing pump with low purity nodes

[iron stratus]

unpure nodes take 10/min pure takes 20/min so that bed takes 90/min and you're supplying 120/min

[tall tangle]

it's ok, cuz ore will be purified eventually. i hope

[subtle finch]

im lazy, i was planning to connect the top pump to the bottom bed later

[rare moon]

0/10

[tall tangle]

my power is probably most cursed. thats what happens when you make it so there is no clipping

[subtle finch]

in v4 i was trying to not clip the lines too, but i gave up on that quickly

[tall tangle]

if someone irl suggests placing powerlines in bamboo forest swamp plz shoot that person

[warped delta]

Okay, but you can't run the entire thing off 1 pump so it's irrelevant.

[rare moon]

i have an extra for no reason

[subtle finch]

he expects you to connect the surplus to the bottom bed like this

[rare moon]

i prioritized zipline to top

[subtle finch]

you better not have a stash in your base if you judge people by their pumps tho

[ruby sorrel]

wow square connector

I'm conflicted cus I run an extra crucible since my xircon and medC aren't in the same base

[subtle finch]

i worked hard on mine, and now they hide it if you zoom too far

[rare moon]

what the

[tall tangle]

shallow water

[vivid jolt]

I just unlocked the stockade outpost, what should I be doing with that and the core AIC area?

[subtle finch]

xiranite production is the best there

doesn't need a lot of bus, or none at all

[vivid jolt]

I just got one bus depot, the wuling ones seem annoying to use compared to V4

[subtle finch]

you will change your mind with that soon

[vivid jolt]

Why? it seems clunky to have to build around them within the area rather than the simplicity of having them along the side

[subtle finch]

they're 2 sided , and you get more than you think

[vivid jolt]

I'm sure it adds more variablity to make optimization easier but it doesn't seem worth the extra mindspace for me.

[rare moon]

throw them down and forget

its a build your own bus depot line

[subtle finch]

come back with that take when you're at max production rate

[vivid jolt]

I doubt I'll ever be at max production rate is the thing

I like the factory system but my bases are rather haphazardly thrown together and I can't be bothered to tear it all up and start again.

[keen river]

wuling depots are super flexible

[rare moon]

I like walling sections but some people use as minimal depots as possible

[keen river]

valley 4 are pretty ass, especially the core one being L shaped

[vivid jolt]

so adding more initial bulk is only getting in the way

[ruby sorrel]

walling sections look so claustrophobic

[subtle finch]

i like factory so much i keep rebuilding things that don't need rebuilding

[rare moon]

most useless depots ever

[ruby sorrel]

I haven't changed anything in days

[rare moon]

but i like running pipes on them

half the time cuz i cant split on them

[subtle finch]

it just feels like a knot to me that you need to untangle

[rare moon]

are we getting 4 more forges this patch

[tall tangle]

shame you cant put pipe logistics on top of depot

[rare moon]

for a 10 forge base i could prob fit 5 forges per row then the next 2 are heavy xiranite

[tall tangle]

weird water pumping for 5

[rare moon]

then like maybe 10 extra space on height so i have a 80x60 just for forges since my bp is 16x25 per forge

[iron stratus]

i smell a 1 tile size reduction

[tall tangle]

my bus forges are 12x18

[fluid fog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1st1rca/overflow_valve_design_12/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[muted rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-what-kind-of-place-is-this-meme-gif-6060613409532178798

[iron stratus]

you really brought that acid all the way huh

[brazen vortex]

😂

[vivid jolt]

Ok so I tried setting up a xiranite forge, how could it be improved?

[iron stratus]

that third xira line going into your heavy forge is also just sitting there

you could have put a depot loader there for the heto parts and saved a stash

[rare moon]

you are so close to a thing like mines

this is my bp

[muted rampart]

you forgot a Refining Unit between carbon powder and Forge

[vivid jolt]

yeah I just caught that

[tall tangle]

it's fixing for now. not improving

[rare moon]

only thing i have to figure out is where my outputs are going

[iron stratus]

stash the extra line of sandleaf powder

[vivid jolt]

I was planning on using it for my next forge line

[muted rampart]

and your Yahzen factory has no water input?

[tall tangle]

man people love them bridges...

[vivid jolt]

it did before, I forgot to put a splitter in when bringing water to the forge. fixed now

[tall tangle]

welp, now it's spaghetti, but should work

[vivid jolt]

speaking of, how many facilities can one water pump supply? so far I've only needed to split one between a planter and forge and haven't had issues but I assume there's a limit

[tall tangle]

2 (unless drills)

[ruby sorrel]

just look how much it supplies vs how much stuff uses

[frigid dirge]

nawh im going sleep, hope that sandleaf farm can handle it, it still drop when i changing it to jincao for making carbon

[worthy condor]

Hi there! I’m not home currently, but I’m hoping someone can direct me towards a good and easy YouTube video for all AIC factory and outposts for wuling. Please let me know!

[rare moon]

fixed this section

[tough berry]

i now have massive problem in my factory

i freaking got full xircon but default xircon gain is 75 while using only 70 which deley heavy farm since xicon is full

[upper fiber]

when will they fix the control port....

my forge is ruined

[tough berry]

??

control port?

[upper fiber]

item and pipe control port

[ruby sorrel]

just run them in parallel

[tall tangle]

brains short circuits trying to decipher that sentence

[wispy grove]

whats he saying is, his xircon in depot is full cause hes doing 75/min yield while only consume 70/min

[muted rampart]

in case you don't know, you can also do 2 pumps into 1 pipe to split it into 4 later

a pump provides 1 water per second, but a pipe (and inlet/outlet) can transport 2/s

[tough berry]

my heavy using the 4 alchemy green sewage to run while im gaining 75xircon per min but i only use 70 which made me endup full so my big alchemy supply full of xircon cant deposite it

[wispy grove]

bro just use more xircon

[tough berry]

guess i go run full power for 1 day

[wispy grove]

oh w8 70/min xircon?

are you doing 13.25/min battery?

[tall tangle]

his originium will burn out

[tough berry]

ya

[wispy grove]

the calculations are wrong

[trail mirage]

If you have too many xircon just send them to v4

[upper fiber]

stop input ferrium powder for 1 day

[wispy grove]

oh yeah and make sc wuling battery on v4

[tough berry]

sigh guess i do that wish before ver 1.3 comes valley wont be full since im gaining 5 daily

[wispy grove]

v4 is spacious

[tough berry]

dang tnx miko is good idea

[wispy grove]

how many xircon per min do you think you need in a 1.25/min xircon?

[tough berry]

looks at my valley battery....80k

70

if your 1.5

[tall tangle]

or you gotta tune down xircon production to 66.25 and use batteries with metatransfer dense originium

[tough berry]

domt know for 1.25

since im doing manual transfer of ore cube weekly

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/say-whaaat-gif-18261283115155956121

[iron stratus]

what's max heto parts rn

[wispy grove]

4.5

[shadow void]

Man, me out here transfering daily

[wispy grove]

tf yall doin

[tough berry]

whats your farm az?

15 battery?

[shadow void]

Micromanaging/babying

[tough berry]

since only that one i can think you need daily

[wispy grove]

just do meta transfer

[shadow void]

farm?

[tough berry]

my meta doing its work

thats why only weekly

[shadow void]

i do

[tough berry]

since only 300 ori cube consumed per hr

[wispy grove]

then dont do manual its ruining the balance

[shadow void]

lemme get in game

[tough berry]

but i love my perfect bat 3 purple 1 blue

[shadow void]

pretty sure tho my V4 is 18/18/24

[tough berry]

my v4 now 11 6 7 11 purple 6 blue 7 originium cube