aic-factory

[vale topaz]

my take on people hetonite 8 crucible stuff.

[hot panther]

how many forge does it take to get one heavy xiranite prod line?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-1113690819906746562

[wispy grove]

wrong question

[sullen cypress]

anywhere from 2 to 4

[hot panther]

how can you make it with 2?
currently using 4 and I think I might be wrong

[undone pagoda]

this game makes me want to cry sometimes

[sick basin]

3 or 4

[wispy grove]

but the answer is either 4 forges or 7

[sonic summit]

yeah that basicly that IF we have extra 60 cuprium input

[sick basin]

[sullen cypress]

you just dont make it full speed

[vale topaz]

yep, i'll cut 2 crucibles for real implementation, the bottom crucibles

[undone pagoda]

this is quite literally as i just unlocked the area its not final or id cry

[hot panther]

ah, make sense. what about full speed

[sullen cypress]

4

[hot panther]

icic, thanks

[undone pagoda]

i cant expand the area yet for max prod im bill broke

[sick basin]

4 with nothing
3 if we use the inert from battery lines

[sonic summit]

if only we got a recipe that use acid too we can use those 2 extra slot per crucible

[hot panther]

I still tryna utilize the inert from that with purification unit but it's only giving me half of what crucible produces

that is if using two expanded crucible

[sick basin]

Cuz youre supposed to converge all 4 into 1 puri unit

Then u get exact amount needed for 100% edfluent for forts

[undone pagoda]

im never getting max production efficiency at this rate. Endfield tools dev is down too

[brisk urchin]

some1 explain this to me please, my brain overloaded now

[hot panther]

so I'm gonna need at least four crubible for one puri unit

[sick basin]

For hetonite yes

[hot panther]

then what can one xircon eff line be used for?

[green sleet]

It does that sometimes. I usually just replace the pipe to fix.

[vale topaz]

hetonite is just the most power hungry production line so far ._.
seriously, 450 for crucibles alone. ( 350 for now )

[brisk urchin]

its still work just fine

funny bug i guess

lmao

[green sleet]

If you arent bothered by its looks, then hellyeah lol

[copper lily]

Can anyone make hetonite efficiently in expanded crucible?

[sick basin]

Whats efficiently
22.5/ is max, cant have 100% effieciency till we get the new area

[vale topaz]

using xircon line, 7 forges with 1 purification unit. 6/m
without xircon line, 4 forges. 6/m, water treatment for the xircon waste.

[copper lily]

Compact like xircon

[sonic summit]

when we get extra 60 cuprium mines this is the most we can do by tbh #aic-factory message

ext crucible can only replace 1 reactor to do double duty with hetonite maker same electricity, better space only

[vale topaz]

still curious about new map purification function, wonder if it can replace the whole sc line just from that function + ferrium powder.
or purification function + 2 xiranite for heavy xiranite.
also do players need to drag sewage into that map to make the function work.

[hollow sparrow]

I'm done updating my symmetrical main aic

[sick basin]

Ye they do

[prisma granite]

bruh why is it so far away

[sick basin]

Yk that water is..right over there right

[prisma granite]

i couldnt find a place to put it

it was all red

so i just stretched it over

[sick basin]

I pulled water from there just fine

[marble yarrow]

1 pump gang

[prisma granite]

the cliffs were screwing me over

[young stag]

does 5 heto part/m require you to focus all copium to it

[marble yarrow]

yes

exactly 4.5 heto part/min

no wei

[raven finch]

how do u get sewage? besides using factory building

is there sewage pond somewhere in mark stone area?

[sick basin]

No, u make cuprium

Nothing more to it

[raven finch]

oh

[vale topaz]

no, no other source of sewage, that sewage pond for puzzle ( not at marker stone area ) is only.... 40

[raven finch]

oh

[vale topaz]

it's just short purification job to get chest.

[arctic wharf]

Does anyone know the total amount of cuprium available on 1.2? Just making sure I didn't miss any!

[vale topaz]

180, for now

[arctic wharf]

Perfect, thank you!

[shut rover]

Heaps of mess just to have 4 a min hetonite while doing 6 a min heavy xiranite

[marble yarrow]

cheese

[magic steppe]

is there a way to set a formula without putting in the materials or do i just have to do it after ive started up the factory

[vale topaz]

no, no way to choose formula, just have to be quick in setting output.

[magic steppe]

thats kinda dumb, especially since theres literally a menu with all the formulas

[upper fiber]

you calling lowlight dumb?

[split tapir]

TFW no sanity but got tutorials to do

[hot panther]

With 8 forges, what do I get?

[sullen cypress]

8 xiranite, or 2 heavy xiranite, or 1 heavy xiranite and 4 xiranite

[small creek]

I managed to replicate the problem, apparently 15/16 isnt enough of a split or smth

Its only a problem on startup, which can be fixed by removing the connection to the water treatment first

[void owl]

name a worse pipe tangle than tihis

[small creek]

id like to submit my attempt

[glad needle]

but after a while it will be clogged

[upper fiber]

mine

[small creek]

It wont

[carmine igloo]

Guys is this good?

[white dune]

u can also just use a fluid tank

[glad needle]

how long this has been running?

[small creek]

24h

[white dune]

we only make up to 6 red waters?

[small creek]

This new one i just placed and its been working for 5min

[void owl]

how do i fix TS?

[small creek]

remove sewage

[vale topaz]

there's is a disconnected pipe there.
right forge, near the protocol stash

[void owl]

if i remove, then no sewage is going to react

[glad needle]

i copy your bp and it clogged

or the sewage only pass through without getting xinert production

[void owl]

that is a switch to my batter factory and my forge ( when auto switch when it detects full xir in depot, and switch to hevy xr then when 0, switch to bat production

[small creek]

@glad needle

[glad needle]

i already did this

and the sewage still went through before it getting any product

[void owl]

me too

thats why i disconected sewage

[small creek]

wtf why did it work for me

[glad needle]

dude idk

[void owl]

how bout this

[small creek]

like i literally just did this rn

oml

[void owl]

split sewage tree way b4 the crucible
each crucible gets 1 line, last line is sewage treatment

[small creek]

thats manual splitting

which defeats the purpose since this is supposed to be an automatic sewage management system

[upper fiber]

slip in some sewage first

[carmine igloo]

Is this good?

[void owl]

each crucible gets 1 sewage/2s

a watre treter trets 1/2s

and the sewage bypass the crucible into the treatment plant

theres our problem

[vale topaz]

burning originium supply for extra originium cube ?

[small creek]

I mean ive already tried a regular priortiy flow

[white dune]

looks amazing keep it up!

[small creek]

The problem is if i try to use selfclog on the crucible, it wont make xircon and the whole thing just breaks

[white dune]

idk actually

[small creek]

So i had to make a passthrough to force it back out first then loop it back in

[carmine igloo]

Yep I have 0 over used

I have unlimited now

[hard lotus]

can 1.25 sc even sustain sewage on its own

[void owl]

i think the 3 way slit is the best

[sullen cypress]

what's the thing look like and how much sewage you need to treat?

[void owl]

or just seperate the xircon steop to a dedicated crucible

[small creek]

Thats more space and power

Not very efficient

[sullen cypress]

one solution is to add a fluid tank as a little manager, take space tho

[void owl]

do you want reliability or overly optimizing?

[small creek]

You call it overly but that 50 power saved is literally make or break on my factory

[void owl]

(turn on another battery line)\

[small creek]

And use more batteries?

Thats hurting your profit

[void owl]

we realy need "pressure valves"

they split fluids of the "main" gers clogged

[glad needle]

adding a water treatment seems fix the issue for now

[small creek]

idk how thats supposed to help ngl

thats even less sewage into the crucible

[sullen cypress]

the reactor can only use up 1 sewage per cycle anyway, regardless of how much other stuff you put in

[small creek]

@glad needle So youve tried jumpstarting the crucible by putting a lot of sewage in it?

like say 25

[glad needle]

i did

it clogged the purify

[small creek]

And howd it go

purify or water treatment

[glad needle]

purification got clogged with xircon effluent

[small creek]

oh

[glad needle]

oh its still clogged

[quasi locust]

i may finally have a stable xira/heavy xira alternator

[small creek]

my guy its normal to clog

[glacial robin]

yeah ik its meant to be absurd because you dont need the pipe since the inlet+outlet is just bluetooth

[white dune]

xd okayy

[small creek]

if your graph looks like this, its fine to clog

its actually meant to clog at times even

[white dune]

i forgot they existed and did this

cuz theresa limit to how long u can make en

[glad needle]

can you check your production again, maybe something didnt included

i tried so many things and the thing will ended up clogged or the sewage pass through

[small creek]

what else is there to check

looking at the liquid graphs is useless

[glad needle]

i dont know dude

check the overall of production ig

[small creek]

the only thing u dont want to clog is sewage

anything else clogging is fine

[sullen cypress]

when you put something in one way and out the other way, the reactor will always prioritize passing through without making stuff

[severe sleet]

is there something wrong with my reactor crucible that makes xircon? i have 2 pipes pumping it with xircon effluent but it still goes idle

[carmine igloo]

Should I add 1 more?

[sullen cypress]

so you will have to pump in more than 2 liquid/s for it to react

[glad needle]

no dawg the effluent will clogged in purification unit

[tender thistle]

Get your Valley4 to under 4733W, then you'll have enough extra batteries to power 7900W in Wuling and buy out all outposts

I had to actually start burning SC Wuling bats because my stockpile were full

[small creek]

No

Im not running 7900 in wuling wtf

[tender thistle]

I'm saying you'll have enough HC valley bats to go up to 7900W if you want while still buying out all the outposts

[small creek]

This is also like, entirely missing the point of power saving

[vale topaz]

without larger view, could be just bugged bridge over there, delete and redo the bridge at right crucible

[void owl]

am i doing it correct?

[small creek]

Youre telling me to just solve my problem by throwing more money at it

Money that is arguably useless since its v4, but its still money

[glad needle]

you only need 1 belt of ferrium

[small creek]

@glad needle try removing the passthrough instead

[severe sleet]

it's somehow fixed itself after i turned it off for 30s to let it have some buffer for xircon effluent then turned it on

[small creek]

like u know the little piece of pipe right next to the crucible before the array

remove that first

[glad needle]

i did, and i wait the crucible has 25 of sewage

like you said

[small creek]

maybe just until 10

ive no idea anymore lol

im boutta crash

[glad needle]

and this is the result

the sewage wont settle in the crucible anymore

after i put the pipe back

[void owl]

i hate the factory with a passion

[static isle]

how much/min is each high purity and low purity mining spot

[void owl]

if the game didnt force use to gactory, this monstrocity wont exsist

[sullen cypress]

I mean yeah, sewage in sewage out, that mean you will never produce anything because the facility prioritize passing fluid

[glad needle]

ye

well unless i do pipe control port ig

i should do that

[sullen cypress]

the best you can do is limit the sewage input to 0.5/sec and route whatever remaining to a water treater

[devout egret]

Just copy someone else factory setup, if your not sure if you can make it yourself.

[glad needle]

how much water treatment you need to make it 0.5/sec?

[void owl]

probom is its a fresh update

so ppl havent "optimized" yet

[sullen cypress]

I see you get sewage input from a cuprium refiner, you just split that pipe into two and you are golden on input

oh wait I got a mistake

[glad needle]

yea

[vale topaz]

iirc, 20 for high and 10 for low

[glad needle]

i think it will clogge

[sullen cypress]

0.5/sec is literally 1 every 2 second, that is just the cuprium alone

let's start over, what's the goal here? 15 xircon per minute?

[static isle]

is it true that once we get a third region V4 facs would be deactivated?

[river wadi]

according to the game it would be the newest released region and the region you last visited that run offline while other regions shut down

[glad needle]

uh whats the min output of xircon to get 1.25 sc wulbat

[sullen cypress]

37.5

[glad needle]

well i think my goal is to have sewage evenly both in input and output

[void owl]

ANYONE HAS A BP THAT HAS MORE INPUTS

[sullen cypress]

ouch my ears

[static isle]

u want 6 or 8?

[alpine patio]

Anyone got any vid of max profit/efficiency as of current uodate ?

[void owl]

8

[static isle]

holup lemme boot into game

can u replicate from photo

[sullen cypress]

so the goal is to clean up that sewage and inert fluid using minimal water treatment and energy

[glad needle]

yes

[static isle]

@void owl

[void owl]

ill try

[sullen cypress]

let me fiddle with it a bit, with 1 full sewage input, you will have to route only 0.25 sewage in and treat the rest

[glad needle]

just give him your blue print dude

[white dune]

adoes this actually work?

[static isle]

the point is idt I made this into a BP yet and I'm not running 8

[static isle]

ye I got this running
not using it rn tho

[wispy grove]

hows everyone

[static isle]

Wait I did
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Asia

plug 3 acid pumps into the rightmost two crucibles
1.5 each

[ancient wagon]

I think i'm getting wuling soon

I'm so not excited, I don't want to have to explore a whole new areaaaa
Factories are fun tho

[void owl]

can i connect a normal input to a conduit manifold?

[fervent lodge]

what is normal input

[marble yarrow]

trimming the protocol capacity and excess logistics for my all in one main

[vale topaz]

well, at least you can gather oroberyl from exploration

[ancient wagon]

True true

[vale topaz]

rebuilding hetonite line... again

[wispy grove]

min maxing everything eh

[sullen cypress]

I see no problem

[glad needle]

wut

it will clogged the purification

wait why its 0.25

[sullen cypress]

from my previous blueprint, sewage in literally act as a limiter on how fast the crucible work, at the cap of 1 full pipe requiring an extra active xircon input

[vale topaz]

well, just to reduce space usage : /

[sullen cypress]

first spliter make it 0.5 on each output, the second spliter make the 0.5 split into 0.25 each

[wispy grove]

whats this?

[sullen cypress]

literally fucking around on prod lol

[ruby sorrel]

what even is that, loopback ratios are diff

[sullen cypress]

Pogrume was trying to optimize his factory

[glad needle]

i wanna get that sweet 4.4k power

max efficiency

xd

[glad needle]

i did this and it havent clogged yet

[sullen cypress]

finally it clog

[static isle]

my eyes

[glad needle]

it has been 20 minutes of cycle

[ruby sorrel]

funny ratio

doesn't that toss purified effluent randomly

well not like we have a shortage of xiranite

[graceful otter]

those 3 pipe splitters on upper pipe doing nothing tho

[glad needle]

yea im too lazy switching it to normal pipe xd

[hard lotus]

quote me if i'm wrong but isn't Qyurii design that for 1.25 sc wulbat and not fullblown 6/min

[glad needle]

its true and i wait it until 30 minutes and the contraption not worked during that period for some reason

[hard lotus]

i see

[sullen cypress]

now we see if it clog in 10 minutes

[graceful otter]

oh my god why do you need water, its unlimited

[sullen cypress]

the commission require absolute minimal power usage, that water has to go somewhere or it will clog

[ruby sorrel]

well the important one is just sewage

[void owl]

is there any other wy to farm pre engaving permits

[sullen cypress]

where is the better place than back to the ass of it mother

[glad needle]

[sullen cypress]

ok it stabalized, no clog, constant speed

[glad needle]

what about the purification?

[sullen cypress]

beautiful

[glad needle]

seems promising

[vale topaz]

no, selling regional stock is the only way.
so make sure to have good match when upgrading equipment. ( less rng )

[sullen cypress]

so yeah, just make sure the sewage input is right

2 spliters, 1 goes down, the other join into water treatment

[storm lichen]

I'm desperate for a v1.2 sandleaf farm bp

[alpine tendon]

Why doesn't the puri unit get clogged? the reactor crucible has a 90/min input so where does the 30/min output of the puri unit go?

Cause the reactor crucible IS clogged...

[magic steppe]

this is some next level spaghetti

[sullen cypress]

I see no problem here, purification eat 120/minute and spit out 30

[magic steppe]

by the way for 12 sc bats i only need 4 forges right

[glad needle]

okayy

[sullen cypress]

yeah 12 batt should eat 4 xiranite forge

[magic steppe]

so that leaves 1 forge for xircon and 2 for normal xiranite (for heavy xiran)

[sullen cypress]

reactor use 30/min for 30 cuprium fluid, you will need 4 reactors to have 1 purification run at full speed

[glad needle]

hows the sewage, is it dwindle or full?

mine is dwindelling

xd

[sullen cypress]

as it should

it doesnt run at full speed

[glad needle]

im afraid it will pass through and doesnt produce xircon

[sullen cypress]

leave it a while and that should produce exactly 7.5 xircon per minute, which will become 1.5 batt/min

[subtle finch]

i understand you modified qyurii's build, you dont need those stacks of convergers anymore 😭

[sullen cypress]

also nope, sewage shouldn't have an out port from the crucible, it get in and stay in

[glad needle]

im just lazy dude xd

yea i did it like this

[glad needle]

i cut the outport and it seems fine

[marble yarrow]

pipemaxing

[white dune]

ygs that r done with the aic for 1.2 can i c yalls report and output?

[subtle finch]

pipe minimizing

[marble yarrow]

PEAK

[ruby sorrel]

no it should be 12.5 xircon since you're looping back purifier eff

[glad needle]

whats the situation, my crucible get clogged but im not sure why

i think it because of sewage

[ruby sorrel]

too much sewage

[glad needle]

[marble yarrow]

safest config

[ancient charm]

my final setup for 1.2.1 wuling with under 5k power

[glad needle]

its not for heavy xinertie but sc wulbat

[subtle finch]

true, but it can't really work if the converger is not against the crucible port

[vale topaz]

some samples

[fluid fog]

dont let sewage clogged, making xircon rock will stop due to by-products (sewage) cant proceed of it.

[marble yarrow]

you can see the xircon there

[subtle finch]

i kept recommending the easiest solution and they still insist on an unstable layout 🥀

[glad needle]

what did you suggest

i think i miss it

[ruby sorrel]

hmm is it actually safe to over supply xiranite in cases like this

[alpine patio]

Anyone got any vid of max profit/efficiency as of current uodate ?

[subtle finch]

top part can just be 1 treatment+splitter

[ancient charm]

why wouldnt it be

[subtle finch]

no, for 1.25, you need a xiranite limiter, unless you wanna do it like qyurii and add an overflow valve

[ruby sorrel]

cus if you overproduce effluent you also get too much effluent back from the purification

which then overproduces xircon+sewage

[ancient charm]

just pump the effluent into heavy xir FoS

[ruby sorrel]

that's literally a different setup

[subtle finch]

people really be throwing random stuff in the wall and hope it just works

[ancient charm]

wait hydro rigs can mine ferrium too?

[ruby sorrel]

just limit everything

shove it all in 1 pipe

[sullen cypress]

Yellow pipe of purifier (active xircon) must goes to the water converger directly connected to the crucible, the organge pipe (water) goes into converger before it
the sewage pipe is alone, I suggest you try to see if you can swap cuprium refiner to the left of the set up, a mock up:

[marble yarrow]

fr

[subtle finch]

mine was almost the simplest already, i guess you can still merge purification ports like that

[ancient charm]

one pump supplies two rigs right iirc?

[subtle finch]

let me try

[sullen cypress]

for the miner? 3 actually

[marble yarrow]

1 pump supplies 3 high nodes, otherwise maximum 6 low nodes

[sullen cypress]

and if it is low purity, up to 6

[white dune]

whats ygs aic report look like

[ancient charm]

oh god

[subtle finch]

actually if i do it, people would ask me even more question

[ruby sorrel]

time to do it

[ancient charm]

fah its actually more energy efficient

protocol efficient too

[ruby sorrel]

I'm too busy dumping all my orig in comps for this

[subtle finch]

i do be like making things overly compact to the point of incomprehension

[marble yarrow]

it is, look at before and after changing to hydro

[ruby sorrel]

I'm just gonna cap it while it's free

[ancient charm]

how much protocol capacity did you reduce?

[ruby sorrel]

since xira comp is pretty useful

[marble yarrow]

for the miners? idk actually lmaoo

[white dune]

is it doing two formulas at once?

[ruby sorrel]

2k heto comp I think it's enough to stop maybe....

[sullen cypress]

OMG twinsies

[glad needle]

ya

[white dune]

woahh

[ancient charm]

the hydrorigs and miners should take the same capacity right? but the pylons you save along the way should reduce by a lot more?

[hot panther]

I produced 56k and have 30k left...

[ruby sorrel]

nah I'm actually pretty conservative

[subtle finch]

@ruby sorrel now we

[marble yarrow]

yeah they are of same prot capacity

[ancient charm]

oh wait FAH

bcos its the mining rig mk2

its even more efficient

ffs

I was comparing mk1 and hydrorig

[marble yarrow]

fr

[ruby sorrel]

everyone has more comps than me

[marble yarrow]

yes changing mk2 is huge

[subtle finch]

11k gang

[sullen cypress]

I mean my goal is to get everything to 80k in both valley and wuling, right now I only have some comp left and I have it fully cleared, except the new mats of course

[ruby sorrel]

comps are too difficult can't make more

actually I have enough spare xiranite to bump cuprium comps from 1/8 to 1/6 line

or is that 1/16 to 1/12

fractions hard

[vale topaz]

the trade off for protocol capacity is vary.
hydro rig and normal rig cost the same.
but splitter , in/outlet cost 1 .
at 2 ore node, is like trading 2 capacity vs 4 , 2rig vs pump + splitter + 2 rig
place with hard to pipe will cost more capacity if using in/outlet

[marble yarrow]

though pipe splitter, etc, belong to different category (the 128 limit)

[subtle finch]

@ruby sorrel
it was showing clogged intermittently, but it's working
im worried the limiter desynced with the effluent coming back
but i don't think it's an issue cause the crucible is still idling

[vale topaz]

they better give visual for those hidden limits : /

[marble yarrow]

the reason why i piped from marker stone to wuling city, without consuming any protocol capacity in wuling city

rather than using conduit chains

[ruby sorrel]

now limit the sewage and converge it too

[subtle finch]

those control port/pipe bridge don't count?

[white dune]

WHAT IS THE MAX yield for the red ore?

[subtle finch]

22.5 heto

[marble yarrow]

no, it counts on 128 pipe logistics limiter

belt/facilities on 512

[white dune]

huh-

[subtle finch]

i see, im still confuse about this facility limit business

[ruby sorrel]

I used too much pipe logistics on mining iirc

[subtle finch]

180 cuprium ore

[ruby sorrel]

I can't save the 10 power on the farm pump cus I couldn't bring water from jingyu excess to it in 1.1

[vale topaz]

💀 nope, no way until the game or any event demand it.

[white dune]

actually?! we wont unlock more mining areas?

[subtle finch]

we get to 240 next half patch

[white dune]

huh-

oh ok

[marble yarrow]

saved a lot on single pipe bridges as length extender, and driving through terrain

[ruby sorrel]

I still need to find space for 4 forges for next half

[sullen cypress]

fold the factory so this pipe is as short as possible and the clog will show up a bit less

[white dune]

so what is the ideal numbers for the thing we should make rn?

[ruby sorrel]

cus I forgot about them and dump everything everywhere on my factory

actually put pipe control port every other tile on that pipe so you can see the alternation

[sullen cypress]

if you only care about profit, 12 big batt, 6 heavy xiranite, 22.5 hetonite ore

[vale topaz]

huh, pipe can go underground around wuling ?

[subtle finch]

if you're planning on making comp, margin is thin, i suggest my ratio

[wispy grove]

Hmmmm

[ruby sorrel]

so many comps

but ig making more at once and then turning it off saves more power in the long run

[subtle finch]

we comp/profit maxxing in this house

[ruby sorrel]

meanwhile I'm still lazy to lower my yazhenA from full line

so I'm stuck with weird amounts

actually if I stop depoting heto parts I can double the output

but then I'd be cutting outpost really close

iirc we still lose 0.8% to offline so it'd probs end up negative

[vale topaz]

..... speaking about heto parts, haven't seen people put random mortar tower along road / monster spawn.

[ruby sorrel]

trolls aren't there yet

[white dune]

huh

[wispy grove]

Oh yeah why yall have 530 orig?

That should be 480+25 right?

[white dune]

DO I STILL NEEd this?

caps lock cuz game

[ruby sorrel]

25*2 cus orig cubes

[subtle finch]

now how do you recommend to consolidate these 2 production into 1?
sc production needs 4 loaders/unloaders, but i guess i can merge to the heto loader

[wispy grove]

Why x2?

[vale topaz]

you are free to choose..... most players just scrapped it totally.....

[ruby sorrel]

2 orig per cube

but it costs 1 meta

[wispy grove]

OH

[cyan forge]

Is it more recommended to run lc bat compared to xira comp?

[wispy grove]

carry on

[subtle finch]

no

[ruby sorrel]

depends on your xira comp count

[wispy grove]

Why not do both

[ruby sorrel]

if you're capped run batts

[subtle finch]

sc or xira comp all the way

[cyan forge]

W8 no, is that sc? On the left? 0.25 efficiency?

Ok my bad, didn't see that

[subtle finch]

1.25/min to be exact

[cyan forge]

Hmm

[glossy sequoia]

Can someone tell me what to do with this precipitation acid ? Should I send this back to the precipitation acid pool through the fluid supply unit?

[ruby sorrel]

smh I'm not even doing these funny factory things feels bad

[subtle finch]

check the image above, you can backfeed like that

[ruby sorrel]

dump it if you don't want to think

[floral basin]

would like to know why my xiranite usage is so high should i cut down on the jincao production or lower heavy xiranite production or both

[cyan forge]

How is it 1.25? U had another 1 full sc prod sumwhere?

[ruby sorrel]

backfeeding has requirements

[subtle finch]

it's 25 dense ori meta, that's 1.25/min, we have 30 xiranite to spare, im only using 10/m of that

[cyan forge]

Oh-

[ancient charm]

uhhhhhhh

[subtle finch]

doing math consultations for free again

[cyan forge]

1.25/min, mb i misread that as 1.25 efficiency

Noted

[subtle finch]

mb

[cyan forge]

Nah dats on me

[ruby sorrel]

what if you limit it with 5/24 belt ferrium instead of 1/3 belt xiranite

[cyan forge]

Hm but that means u still overflow on xira, no?

[ruby sorrel]

save you from making too much sewage

[subtle finch]

i didnt check that, all i know is setting xiranite to always zero is the same as setting sewage to always zero, that's how i avoid the clogging

[leaden drift]

perfect power

[cyan forge]

Like u r eating only abt... 325 xira/hr?

[ruby sorrel]

my xira is balanced again 🎉

[subtle finch]

maybe it's the same logic for ferrium, but im lazy to check

[ruby sorrel]

xiranite is probs better cus effluent

[cyan forge]

What do u use the rest of the xira for?

[ruby sorrel]

comps

[cyan forge]

But u alr don't have any more dense orig

[ruby sorrel]

meta

[marble yarrow]

just a trick, if you connect 2 pipes it becomes constant varying elevation

[cyan forge]

Yeah that 1.5k meta is what goes into 1.25/min sc, no?

[ruby sorrel]

oh I'm not making extra sc

[subtle finch]

still not enough to drain 210, unless you're over consumpting

[cyan forge]

I was askin hikarin

Mb

[subtle finch]

is my math wrong?

[ruby sorrel]

o mb

[subtle finch]

oh god we got into tangled discussion

[cyan forge]

U guys sort out urs first

Then we can discuss my question

[pulsar cypress]

Just tag the person when chatting..
It won't be tangled ig..

[subtle finch]

yeah, this is all my prod, if you need extra clarification
raw mats look a bit weird with purification unit

[marble yarrow]

wait imma powerpoint it

[cyan forge]

Yeah, i should've

[white dune]

HOW does one get sewage in the main aic area to make batteries?

[white dune]

y 20 on xiranite?

[cyan forge]

U make cupri in main aic

[white dune]

oh then- ok

[subtle finch]

y not?

[cyan forge]

Cupri ore -> cupri+sewage -> cupri dust -> depo

[white dune]

cuz i thouight it 180

[cyan forge]

The sewage u slap to sc

[vale topaz]

owh, i meant scrap the yazhen line.
cuprium dust still require refined cuprium which produce sewage

[cyan forge]

210

[white dune]

unless im not getting the ya

[subtle finch]

i have 1 spare forge, im making 1.25sc/min on top of the 12/min sc bat, that leaves me with 20 xiranite

[cyan forge]

7x xira
1x heavy

[white dune]

rahhh theres so much idk

[ruby sorrel]

tbh purification unit is pretty fun since it makes the ratio like this

[cyan forge]

1 heavy eat 2 xira + leftover effluent

Sc lines eat 2 each x2

So u have 1 leftover xira forge unused

Kinda

[subtle finch]

[cyan forge]

For me i use that leftover for xira comp

[ruby sorrel]

actually per 30 xircon is probably easier to read

[cyan forge]

While hikarin made 1.25/min sc out of it

[subtle finch]

you still have 5 left no? where is it going

[graceful otter]

how do you make 1.25 if output cooldown still the same... or u use extra originium

[subtle finch]

unless you're in dense ori deficit rn

[ruby sorrel]

no that's just the ratio if you loopback purification output into xircon line

pure maths tangent

[subtle finch]

it uses exactly 10/min of xiranite to make that, if you purify and reuse the inert
so you simply need a 10/min belt limiter for the xiranite, and it all resolves by itself

[cyan forge]

1 line taking from depo: dense orig

It'll just stop working when u run out of dense orig

[ruby sorrel]

the loopback feeding in extra effluent changes the ratio from 1:1 and 2:1 to whatever those numbers are

[subtle finch]

hope that answers the question

[cyan forge]

I love how this update makes the longest ongoing aic discussion on how we should be optimizing

[subtle finch]

honestly, it's just explaining math 99% of the time

[cyan forge]

Yep

[cyan forge]

Nonetheless the discussion goes on

Unlike last update where the discussion lasted like at best 3 days

Then everyone just follow blueprint

[subtle finch]

i just trust the endfield calculator i use, so i don't need to ask

[ruby sorrel]

does this actually shorten the pipe length?

[cyan forge]

[ruby sorrel]

I did the numbers, now I can play with the numbers

[wispy grove]

Bro your presentation skills are getting bettah

[uncut briar]

can that crucible works without any sewage supply? (after kickstart)

and with only 10/m xiranite , should it self sufficient?

[cyan forge]

Anw, making more sc huh

[marble yarrow]

afaik the length of pipe is just the horizontal length

[subtle finch]

how many sc is that 😭 , i dont think it's worth the power cost

[ruby sorrel]

it's just recipe ratio with loopback

[subtle finch]

this doesn't do that, i still have sewage in

[cyan forge]

@subtle finch 1.25 sc/min is also exactly how much thermal battery would eat right?

[ruby sorrel]

1 xircon is 1/30 belt = 0.2/min SC ig

[sullen cypress]

each batt eater eat 1.5/min

[uncut briar]

so it still need sewage supply from outside?

[subtle finch]

what ultimately makes it work is there's zero xiranite in the system, it gets consumed immediately,
that gives enough time to have 1 space for sewage from xircon prod
because sewage+liquid xir just consumed 2, sewage, then 1 sewage generated from xircon, followed by 1 sewage from external source.
hope that makes sense

[ruby sorrel]

to make it self sufficient purification would have to be 1:1 I think

[cyan forge]

[subtle finch]

i remember that dream

[cyan forge]

Sounds like i can even save power if i modulate the dense orig intake

[uncut briar]

i mean, im used to make 15/m 30/m xircon, with 1 or only 2 crucible,

but that 10/m xiranite only, kinda wonder if it does need other sewage supply rather than producing itself

[ruby sorrel]

never

you can't run xircon without sewage input

[subtle finch]

sometimes it gets it for free because of the purification, but it will still be on sewage deficit

[uncut briar]

ah deficit, i seeeee

👌

[subtle finch]

im making an exhibit of xircon production designs btw, mind if i add yours? 😳

[uncut briar]

do you need the BP code? or just image of finished stuff

[subtle finch]

the image is fine

[white dune]

CAN I MAKE THE OUTLETS switch somehow?

[sullen cypress]

for my purpose, I need exactly 52.5 xircon/min so here is mine, that also produce 6 heavy xiranite, costing 172.5 xiranite

[marble yarrow]

brah

[uncut briar]

Here, pick your poison, one of it doesnt include left part so purely xircon and freedom on how others want to utilize it

that pipe tooltip (on previous SS) is so ugly, i had to retake this xD lmao

[fervent lodge]

we should start sending this to people as a rickroll https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1496637429862367272/image.png?ex=69ea9bb9&is=69e94a39&hm=cc9fb2f60066c0bb0eb02abfc976e613ceeb4fcab645577f5df697999e6fe45d&

[uncut briar]

next design, ill definitely use 2 liquid into 1 pipe hole method (so long as it doesnt exceed 2/s)

[sullen cypress]

2 liquid into 1 pipe hole

[uncut briar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-smug-DObgk0NPQh57OBQmzX

[crude plank]

does the top get 5/24 of it

[ruby sorrel]

the heck is this

[subtle finch]

idk, but it gives me aneurism

[ruby sorrel]

1/8+2/24? yeah ig

[crude plank]

im trying to get the right ratio to make batteries from the xircon and the metastorage transfer but im too stupid

[uncut briar]

i always pray that i will never ever use that

[subtle finch]

you're welcome

the biggest issue in this channel, is people find the solution with the most resistance, and others encourage it by trying to make it work

[uncut briar]

yeah i made 1.25 SC and there is nothing complicated like the need of taking 5/24 inert

[ruby sorrel]

I started with 1/3 when I made a 5/24

but why are you doing 5/24 on effluent

[jade temple]

Is there calculator somewhere for battery input so i can save some batteries ? i am not using 1,2k power

[sick basin]

D.i.g.e.

[subtle finch]

look up dige endfield in google

[jade temple]

ty i heard it somewhere but didnt know what it was XD

[ruby sorrel]

tbh would this be the safest since sewage is the clog inducer?

[frail falcon]

Can someone help me with my blue print? Was trying to move it to the side cause I expended the area but now face the problem of not being able to use the blueprint… do I have to manually do everything again 😭

[crude plank]

im purifying the inert xircon to make more xicron and using that to make more batteries

[subtle finch]

i already said, zero xiranite in the system is the same as zero sewage, so it's the simplest solution

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but with your pic ppl could be inputting arbitrary amounts of sewage

[jade temple]

they dont have SC wuling batteries there XD

[ruby sorrel]

idk I haven't actually built one of these things

[subtle finch]

it will be fine, their cuprium refinement will clog instead, and that's not my problem if they dont figure it out

[ruby sorrel]

lol

[vale topaz]

not sure about including bus depot and core into blueprint.
always under impression you need to lay down bus core 1st before continue.

[uncut briar]

i never use that web

i use few splitter and see how it goes, lmao

[frail falcon]

Well guess it’s manually time😭

[uncut briar]

too fast? add more splitter
too slow, remove some or converge a lil bit

[crude plank]

omg that looks so much nicer and easier to read

[sick basin]

?

[subtle finch]

same as pic i sent above

[sick basin]

Refresh the page few times

[jade temple]

OH XD wierd ty

[crude plank]

thats using xiranite tho

[subtle finch]

oh you wanna use only from purification
yeah, you're on your own

[crude plank]

yeah lmao

[subtle finch]

we use ours for heavy xiranite, and do a separate metastorage sc lane

[crude plank]

ohhh that makes more sense to do

lmao

[ruby sorrel]

wtf were you even doing

[crude plank]

idk man

thinknig to hard

https://tenor.com/view/dented-head-head-smile-gif-12205170

[ruby sorrel]

I mean we'd do it your way if we didn't have spare xiranite ig

however that would occur

[subtle finch]

true

[untold matrix]

how many hetonite you guys produce per min to maximize hetonite component ?

[subtle finch]

22.5

[untold matrix]

that's from a single expanded crucible ?

[subtle finch]

depends on your layout, but yes

[verbal lintel]

building this from #1461542035617091681 , is there anything i can improve on this

[untold matrix]

mind showing your aic report ? I cant get my ratio right

[subtle finch]

this is probably how i'd do 50% efficiency, but idk if it's any smaller or bigger

[subtle finch]

should match

[wispy grove]

i propose to remove that refinery and shredder in this lay out and put it in main aic

[real crescent]

id move the output belt of the gearing unit one to the right, that makes space to fit in two treatment units

[verbal lintel]

looks slightly bigger but easier to manage the rest of the size comes from gearing and fitting

ty

[subtle finch]

im fine either way, they can decide on their own, i will pick when the treatment facility arrives

[wispy grove]

i think i should add 4 more crucibles in my marker stone

[untold matrix]

i think yours is higher ? 2x purification unit ?

[subtle finch]

im running at 75% efficiency (all 180 cuprium)

[quasi locust]

quick question, how is the bill/power comparing SC wuling, hetonite part and heavy xiranite?

[undone pagoda]

best youtuber / person to look for aic blueprints?

[subtle finch]

for design and aesthetic idk
but for good support, and someone who will give you choices and for beginners
it's always kyostinv

[wispy grove]

but most endgame bps will be here

[undone pagoda]

dont care about aesthetic so

[subtle finch]

i didn't do the math for that

[quasi locust]

aight

[wispy grove]

oh thats easy lemme do it myself

[floral basin]

chat my xiranite yield is so fucky, and i have 7 forges set up already do i need to go back and check whats the issue? a few days ago it was perfect 210 yield

[wispy grove]

yeah your 7 xiranites aint working

[floral basin]

thanks i will i recheck

[wispy grove]

thats only 5 working xira forges

[floral basin]

means 2 fucked up lol

[vale topaz]

missing carbon / water line ?

[grave veldt]

My bet on piping

[floral basin]

yea piping was the issue when i was doing my 6m jincao after refixing/piping everything it was stable

[wispy grove]

[floral basin]

i mma go check 😪

[wispy grove]

just use 2 factories per conduit pipe

[floral basin]

i better fix it before my xira excess depletes lol

[worthy sky]

Nahh let your whole factory die and then panic.

[verbal lintel]

also random question but how do you get it to look like that

[subtle finch]

you mean dark mode in sim?

[verbal lintel]

is that the one giving the different icons and names other than 1 letter

[subtle finch]

im confused

[dreamy jungle]

Its a website

[subtle finch]

oh, yeah, its not in game

[verbal lintel]

oh i thought it was ingame

another question...why do people use so few extended crucibles

[subtle finch]

that's a compliment to the dev

cause compact looks cool

[true nebula]

imo extended crucible kinda bad (its limiting), only two pipes input/output, still only one type of solid output and have to pick different recipes

[verbal lintel]

fair point in that...

[worthy sky]

Extended good for somethings, but not for all. Also Extended uses 100 power, reg uses 50.

[tawny bear]

question can conduits pump 2/s of fluid?

[tribal crescent]

Ye

Double conduits pump double

Cuz you know

2 piped

[unreal laurel]

ola

[tribal crescent]

Alo

[unreal laurel]

conduits aic are terrible imo

they take up too much space

[tribal crescent]

Tbf

[unreal laurel]

just run a pipe through the depot line

[tribal crescent]

You are not piping all that inlets inside your base

[tawny bear]

says who =3=

[unreal laurel]

wanna bet

[tribal crescent]

No

I know better

[unreal laurel]

indeed

[tribal crescent]

[unreal laurel]

my base is gonna be conduitless

[tribal crescent]

Heathen

Sacrilegious acts

[unreal laurel]

its optimal

[tawny bear]

same with conveyors, the less pipe length, the better

saves a lotta spaec

[verbal lintel]

put it outside the base

[unreal laurel]

pipes over other facilities dont use space

[unreal laurel]

thats the same thing as using a pump....

[ruby sorrel]

just be like the person who runs pipes down from the mountain

[verbal lintel]

huh?

[unreal laurel]

if the outlet is outside the aic,its a pump

if the outlet is in the aic,its taking up space

[tribal crescent]

Does heavy xiranite heal

I want to fill the 40k hole

[unreal laurel]

whut

[verbal lintel]

yeah...?

[tribal crescent]

Heavy xiranite liquid

[floral basin]

thanks everybody for helping me with suggestions to fix my xiranite 👍 , it was due to forges not getting enough water, swap everything to twin conduits to fix it

[marble yarrow]

water is blue

[valid gazelle]

oh shite now that i have completed my wuling base.. my valley 4 base is tragic..

time to rebuild everything again

[grave veldt]

Meanwhile, I screwed up with ratios and currently supplying twice the needed water to everything

Hashtag stay hydrated

[valid gazelle]

no no

stay hydrated with pressure

[grave veldt]

Chen, put down that water gun connected to pump

[valid gazelle]

awww

[tawny bear]

man i love cramming shit together

[sterile stratus]

bruh

[tawny bear]

if i could just figure out a way to chop off that last bit on the right =3=

[valid gazelle]

you can

[upper fiber]

that should be 30/min xircon?

[valid gazelle]

that looks more like.. heto

oh wait

it is SIRcon

[grave veldt]

I have no idea what it is but it is possible to shift depot unloaders 1 tile left

[tawny bear]

i figured it out

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch look at the different choice of passthrough haha

[sterile stratus]

less empty cells i can see lol

[tawny bear]

60/min xircon and 60/min cuprium

[fervent lodge]

it's so funny how many iterations this design ends up with

[scenic swift]

does that work? I thought they all need to have water

[valid gazelle]

only the start

[upper fiber]

can you check it is 60/min or not for xircon?

[subtle finch]

L shape depot is illegal, i will not accept this

[tawny bear]

at first i was gonna let xiranite pass through but that made the ferrium powder's conveyor get too long for cramming =3=

[uncut briar]

thats 60/m xircon and 6/m heavyX

[quasi locust]

can someone check my calculations?

[tawny bear]

i lowkey forgot i had that heavy xiranite i was too focused on the cuprium >.>

[fervent lodge]

it does work but yes it's long haha

[uncut briar]

that stash gonna get super duper harsh critique, but you do you

[fervent lodge]

we ended up with this with hikarin, but the problem is is that this is central

[uncut briar]

KEKKKKKKKKKKK

[tawny bear]

17 meter conveyor are u mad

[uncut briar]

this stash i mean

[fervent lodge]

yeah i like your ferrium switchup

[tawny bear]

the stash is parallel to the depot node so that's fine =3=

[upper fiber]

that shouldn't work since the puri unit not have water output pipe

[fervent lodge]

need to do something with it

[tawny bear]

L depot is depot

[sterile stratus]

i feel like it's not worth it...

[tawny bear]

i'll hook that to yahzen A ingame or sumth

[valid gazelle]

then what about T shape

[sterile stratus]

extended L

[valid gazelle]

damn my L is extended

[sterile stratus]

everywhere is L now

[subtle finch]

i have done it my dudes

[upper fiber]

yeah, i wanna see 30/min or 60/min xircon for the result

[valid gazelle]

oh god

the grid power lines

[sterile stratus]

nice, what is that 1 zipline smh

[valid gazelle]

it not vertical

[sterile stratus]

🥀

[valid gazelle]

[subtle finch]

i'm just showing it how i got to the other side

[ancient charm]

oh ffs I had extra gear and ZFY gloves just finished artificing one of the substats in 3 pieces

[sterile stratus]

mhm ok

[grave veldt]

You zoomed so hard I see his screen pixels

[valid gazelle]

no that's the map effect

[subtle finch]

that's an easy, fix but there's no way to do perfect vertical with pylons2x2 + relay3x3

[tribal crescent]

ooh

i think they added pipes for filling unit

nice touch

was weird to see an invisible pipe

[sterile stratus]

real?

[valid gazelle]

what pipe

[valid gazelle]

wait isnt it always like that

[tribal crescent]

no

literally last patch was just

[valid gazelle]

damn i have dimensia

[sterile stratus]

oh that's nice

[subtle finch]

also i was showing the shortcut, not my ocd lines

[grave veldt]

I.... Literally never bothered looking on my filling unit

[tribal crescent]

the pipe ends next to the unit

[valid gazelle]

i thought you meant actual model change

[subtle finch]

arrest this man

[tribal crescent]

you know the game could do with elevation control

[subtle finch]

.gethisass

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[tribal crescent]

for pipes

[scenic swift]

I was thinking to just turn them off until the ferium is full then it only consumes power when you have enough to run at 100% efficiency

[grave veldt]

Bad Apple but Endfield pipes with Fluid

[tribal crescent]

or belts too

[tribal crescent]

why

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[subtle finch]

we don't like bottling for transport here, 120w producing nothing

and another 40w later, plus the facility slot

[tribal crescent]

go blame leander

[subtle finch]

imagine you make compact build just to negate it with bottle transport, smh

[scenic swift]

bottling for transport worse offense then using protocol stashes

[grave veldt]

(places another stash)

[tribal crescent]

you know

[fervent lodge]

bottle for transport into a protocol stash

[tribal crescent]

actually a valid point

hm

if i turn down those acid bottles

my main chokes immediately

maybe i'll have to make my own bp

🥀

eh

nah

pain in the ass

i could but

[scenic swift]

endmin just need to make the main warehouse store liquids

[sterile stratus]

just use some conduits ig

[tribal crescent]

wait

no

damn

i can't

[sterile stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[tribal crescent]

if i offshore acid i have to offshore battery

it's not gonna fit

too TIGHT

[valid gazelle]

build everything from the ground up

dont use bp

[sterile stratus]

lol

[tribal crescent]

[valid gazelle]

[tribal crescent]

well

maybe i can

if i just offshore the important components

then do the rest in main

ok no

fuck this

i'm not doing allat

[valid gazelle]

[graceful wraith]

What's the smallest u can make ur battery without dividing components?

[subtle finch]

🤏

[graceful wraith]

If I were korean I'd be very triggered rn

[tribal crescent]

ok

no

[sterile stratus]

so i have to build the xiranite WITH the battery

[graceful wraith]

[tribal crescent]

too much of a pain

very much of a pain

i'll take the power and protocol L

[valid gazelle]

power ?

[tribal crescent]

i believe in filling units

[subtle finch]

you mean a closed system production/no depot?

[tribal crescent]

filling units and sepearating unuts take power

[valid gazelle]

oh wait.. you are using bottling for transport..

[sterile stratus]

no depot is impossible, get some originium

[valid gazelle]

i cant see the appeal to that sorry.....

[sterile stratus]

and ferrium asw

[graceful wraith]

Yepper

[tribal crescent]

you'd have to fit xircon making compo

2 of them

[sterile stratus]

obviously not optimized btw

[tribal crescent]

and the whole henonite components

in the acid base

[sterile stratus]

maybe i will do it one day idk

[tribal crescent]

and i am not deleting my base

[glossy nymph]

Any end game factory for wulling yet? Coming back to the game after months.

[tribal crescent]

[sterile stratus]

i've done it 3-4 times lol

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[tribal crescent]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[valid gazelle]

#worth

[subtle finch]

my old base went pretty close, but i drew the line with planters
i said earlier we don't need to build like in valley 4 anymore, since we can now use the other side of the bus

[sterile stratus]

the urge to just straight up ask for bp 🥀

[tribal crescent]

wth

[graceful wraith]

I was tryna fit all 8 xiranites inside main pac, but I also gotta make battery where the xiranites are, then I also need to make heavy xiranite where the xiranites are

[valid gazelle]

here you go

[graceful wraith]

So now Im in a deadlock basically

[valid gazelle]

it doesnt place stuffs for you tho

do it manually

manual bp

[sterile stratus]

yeah but i'm too lazy to even delete my base

[tribal crescent]

you can't

can't fit heavy xiran forge with all xira forge

[valid gazelle]

can*

[tribal crescent]

if like 1 or 2 then sure

[valid gazelle]

with the current one

8 forges

[young igloo]

wait 10 xiranite?

[tawny bear]

hehe it looks like a duck

[sterile stratus]

7+1 forge with battery? possible

[valid gazelle]

ah dang it i forgot it again

sec

[tribal crescent]

wait

uh

you can

ig

but too much a mess

[sterile stratus]

can

[tribal crescent]

i'm not entertaining this idea

this channel was a mistake

[subtle finch]

ive been considering the best way to subdivide production i came up with 2 reasonable solutions
solution 1
12 forge base(2 heavy)
subA - battery
subB - heto

solution 2
4 forge base+2heavy+battery
subA - 6 forge
subB - heto

[tribal crescent]

guys here keep filling my head with heathen ideas

[tawny bear]

whatre u talking abt i love it here

[sterile stratus]

you can use filling unit instead

[tribal crescent]

filling unit is better

just 10 power for ease of thinking

[sterile stratus]

mhm

[tribal crescent]

i have overwhelming burden of thinking

[graceful otter]

it is a mistake i would never guess to use inert for heavy to free up 1 xira line for gear

[valid gazelle]

i kept forgetting the note

[tribal crescent]

wait

[subtle finch]

where's the spices

[tribal crescent]

8 lines of refinement?

[valid gazelle]

wdym spices..

[subtle finch]

futureproofing i guess

[sterile stratus]

oh spaceholder

[subtle finch]

herbs and spices

[valid gazelle]

ooh lol

[ruby sorrel]

already committed to plan2 tbh

[valid gazelle]

these 2 extra "copium" refineries will be connected to SIRcon later

[young igloo]

fair

[subtle finch]

if this bus gets nudge, the base explodes

[valid gazelle]

since we dont have that missing forge to make another line of heavy xyranite, they are just being there to clear up excess "copium"

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-death-dissolved-infinity-war-avengers-gif-831073870261593811

but then again.. i built this cuz i have nothing to do..

if we dont get more originium and/or new SIRcon formulas then the excess SIRcon is going to waste

[tribal crescent]

ok

fine

fine

i will entertain these villainous ideas of yours

[subtle finch]

i don't approve having all cuprium refiners in one place
i prefer to use them as sewage pump for wherever you produce your hetonite or xircon
then you dont need to deal with conduits

[tribal crescent]

uh

let's hope i can do this

[tribal crescent]

why so many stashes

is this just for seperating

[valid gazelle]

no ?

for excess sandleaf powder

[subtle finch]

that's the price for modularity

[valid gazelle]

^^^

there's modular bases and optimized bases

mine is modular

[tribal crescent]

🚬

[desert flame]

i like modular as well!

[valid gazelle]

modular bases eat more power, and requires more facilities, and spaces

optimized ones take less

[valid gazelle]

you just build whatever you feel like using

[desert flame]

i feel this is a trap the dev team put in to confuse people

[tawny bear]

not really, u just gotta times the numbers by 30 =3=

[subtle finch]

it just reveals people who don't know math

[valid gazelle]

[tribal crescent]

hm

can i put 2 lines of xircon

and 1 heavy forge in sub base

surely

[atomic maple]

would this look more compact

if i were to split the liquid xircon area

and the originium area

[copper lily]

I don't even know this exists
Somewhat useless. And it's not worth of hassle to put purification unit

[magic steppe]

Is there literally any need to use inert xircon or do i just dump it in the treatment unit

[crimson inlet]

You need 4 smooth operating crucibles to purify it efficiently

[valid gazelle]

purify it to make heavy xyranite

[shut rover]

When making hetonite, does it take two shredder to 100% efficiency the purification process

[crimson inlet]

I literally don't have a use for the 7th normal forge

[valid gazelle]

it takes 8

[desert flame]

yeah, i feel next patch will need it

[magic steppe]

Wouldnt 3 forges with a 2:1 xircon: xiranite do the same?

[desert flame]

but not this patch

[shut rover]

What

[subtle finch]

what's so hard about doing this