aic-factory

[subtle finch]

i was asking about the overflow valve, maybe effluent was stuck in between

[barren quail]

ye

[sick basin]

Well ofc its slower when theres less free power

[keen river]

yeah, most likely
you can see the state of battery when you click the aic core

[sick basin]

Why are u using 10

[barren quail]

Got it down to 6

[barren quail]

I had a very power hungry setup

[glad needle]

Converger always be the priority of belt right?

[vast iron]

Elaborate

[subtle finch]

joining the sub 4.5k gang today

[vast iron]

What kind of priority are you looking for

[alpine tendon]

is there any way to dump acid out?

[mighty yacht]

no ziplines or included?

[vast iron]

Well we dont seem to be running out of sewage anymore

[subtle finch]

23zipline, and all sprinklers

[vast iron]

Excess should be getting cleaned into treatment

[glad needle]

i mean

[subtle finch]

not sure if effluent* can get stuck in between 2 sewage in that overflow valve before treatment unit

[sick basin]

Back intk the pool

[vast iron]

Whats the output rate? Definitely not 30/min
Expect ~15-20 or less

[quiet hedge]

make an energy drink from ferrium amethyst steel cuprium hetonite bottles with filling unit

[glad needle]

it stopped working

it clogged

[subtle finch]

or join the cool kids and backfeed

[mighty yacht]

you're not using it for heavy xira?

[sick basin]

What

[candid radish]

Can someone break down why heavy xira needs 6 forges

[vast iron]

There shouldnt be any effluent in that circuit..?

[sick basin]

Is this yap

[glad needle]

i am

[livid estuary]

I only used 1

[candid radish]

well thatd be wrong and bad

[mighty yacht]

why use 2 purifiers? isnt one enough?

[vast iron]

Can you check how full treatment is

[candid radish]

im talking about full capacity

[subtle finch]

effluent from purifier is sharing a pipe with the sewage, or am i tripping

[vast iron]

Didnt look like it

[final sierra]

and me with all possible ziplines used + some on AIC 😅
but finally under 5000

[midnight helm]

no american freedom on map?

[subtle finch]

no, they both run at 75%, or you can do 100%-50%, so 1 isnt enough

[sick basin]

It doesnt use 6
Its 4
3 if you pull inert from your batteries and purify in puri unit

[vast iron]

Nevermind, theyre sharing the backfeed pipe what the fuck

[candid radish]

which would be crazy not to do

[glad needle]

i am doing delivery dude

[candid radish]

cool, thanks

[vast iron]

Qyurii what the fuck were you thinking

[mighty yacht]

ye mb, i just saw that you had 6 copium lines

[vast iron]

That pipe is way too long for backfeed sharing

[candid radish]

cant wait to redesign my factory again, but first i need to wait for bills to come in to full upgrade this new outpost...

[sick basin]

Dont be mean
He was proud of it

[glad needle]

i got scammaz

[vast iron]

That backfeed pipe is criminal

[glad needle]

is it really that hard to get that sweet 1.25 sc

[candid radish]

huh so technically the new +4 forges can just.. contain heavy xiranite in themselves

[midnight helm]

no you just use hikarin setup

[vast iron]

I think he went too hard into compacting

[quiet hedge]

imagine coop factory building and someone reverse the flow of that 1 pipe between splitter

[vast iron]

[midnight helm]

or just use 3 crucible

no clogging

[candid radish]

so i dont need to change anything old

[vast iron]

Never happening

[mighty yacht]

should i just drop yahz A and go full heroin?

[glad needle]

heroin > cocaine

[sick basin]

Personal experience?

[vast iron]

One comes with injection tho

Isnt that better for potency

[sick basin]

But the other is easiee to bring
Can just say its flour or powdered sugar

[final sierra]

this one?)

[atomic prairie]

Is there any difference in efficiency between using one extended crucible vs. 2 or three normal ones?

[glad needle]

smaller footprint

but the power usage still the same

[quiet hedge]

you can check the power usage and space they needed

[vast iron]

Some niche recipes save energy but usually just saves space

[alpine tendon]

Embodying the mission name 🔥

[quiet hedge]

if you mixing with no more than 2 input and 2 output fluid and doing 2+ reactions then expanded is probably the way to go with less space used and sometimes power too

[glad needle]

well i guess the new one give you resource for making heavy xinarite

[atomic prairie]

I meant more in terms of production efficiency. i.e. does one extended crucible produce xircon effluent at the same rate as a chain of two normal crucibles.

[quiet hedge]

right now we change from last patch of 3 crucible to 1 expanded and 1 normal crucible for more space saving and efficiency with a bit less pipe connection I think

cuz some reaction like xiranite fluid + sewage can be mixed inside the expanded crucible where the input is xiranite + water + sewage and output effluent and inert
where if you don't use expanded you don't have enough slots for items inside the crucible
cuz there are
xiranite / water / xiranite fluid / sewage / effluent / inert

[glad needle]

still produce at the same rate but it could manage more stuff

[atomic prairie]

The problem I was having was that the expanded crucible I was using to make Xiranite effluent wasn't running efficiently. I found out that the forge supplying it wasn't running at full efficiency because one the farms feeding it carbon stopped running for no reason.

[quiet hedge]

but if you do something like
bottle + jincao solution / xiranite + water then using normal crucible save more space

[alpine tendon]

Is this the highest I can do while doing LC, Yazhen A and C, Cuprium parts and Xiranite parts (maxed rn)

[keen river]

yeah

you cant do many of them, there is just not enough copium

[candid radish]

is it currently possible to keep both wuling outpost emptied of bills?

[keen river]

even if you throw all 6 copium lines at it it still will be like 1.5 or 2 per minute

yeah, it is

[alpine tendon]

Rate this

[noble yarrow]

Oh speaking of the expanded crucible. Is there any advantage to using it beyond the extra inventory?

[quiet hedge]

buy more spaces / 10

[alpine tendon]

I can't haha, broke asf
The upgrades are expensiveeeee

[quiet hedge]

go steal some depot delivery jobs

[alpine tendon]

Done a bunch iirc

[quiet hedge]

environment monitoring done?

[alpine tendon]

Besides, I don't need it for anything else rn

[quiet hedge]

oh reset was just 23 min ago

[quiet hedge]

there's another one you need to unlock

for environment monitoring

and upgrade them

[alpine tendon]

Gotta save those bills

[sleek ibex]

wait, we have 180/min cuprium ore, but to make meds we need 120/min...but we also need 120/min for hetonite ? so we cant "efficiently" make the 6/min hetonite parts ?

[quiet hedge]

but you get more bills per jobs

[keen river]

technically you need like 240 copium to make hetonite parts at 6/min if i recall

[sleek ibex]

oh waht

...

fak dis im going to bed good morning everyone

[alpine tendon]

idk...

[keen river]

definitely worth to upgrade those

you get like 200k every other day for those jobs

if i recall

[quiet hedge]

some might even give 300k iirc

and if you unlock another one you get jobs everyday

[noble yarrow]

My current marker stone factory. Crushed copper is being made at the core AIC; this makes hetonite and liquid heavy xiranite until I run out of iron bottles, at which I just get heavy xiranite

I wish this game had priority splitters

[candid radish]

what does one sell? hetonite parts?

if 3-6 forges are tied up in heavy xiranite

[keen river]

if you are going 3-6 then you probably can just sell the heavy xiranite, but honestly its an overkill

just keep making 2 sc batteries and fill the remaining money with hetonite parts

[deft orbit]

Anyone knows a way to make sandleaf powder at 66% efficiency without the "clogging the machine" trick?

[subtle finch]

just stash the excess and use for depot delivery

[deft orbit]

I use batteries for that xD

[subtle finch]

[deft orbit]

60 batteries per day is nothing...

[hidden temple]

why not just let it clog

[deft orbit]

I don't like it, just that

[subtle finch]

it might be possible, but it's going to be huge

[hidden temple]

if you're really bothered by it, shred and stash dust externally then just unload 2 dust for your production line lol

if you can't just outright stash the third line

[deft orbit]

currently I'm seding 60/m (which is what I don't need) to make carbon powder that I just delete from my depot every day, but I was looking for a more... afk way

afk as in more self sustained

[keen river]

i guess you could do the 20/s input belt, but it will just turn the clogging into the zZzZ icon

so no advantage in this

[subtle finch]

he want the planting machine to take a rest

[hidden temple]

I'm assuming the 60/min excess from 2 forges are going to the 12/min batts
3 forges is using the full output of 2 sandleaf plantloops
1 forge is on heavy xira
so the 2 remaining forges requiring 4 lines of sandleaf dust is where the excess 60/min is coming from

what about replacing carbon for one of the xira production lines

[subtle finch]

i didn't follow that

oh, the sandleaf

dense ori requires sandleaf too

i just went with half planter with mine

[shadow void]

what all are you running outside and inside your factory?

i need to save some batteries man

[iron spoke]

when you say half you mean 1 planter 1 seeder?

[subtle finch]

yes

[shadow void]

hmm, i could turn that little side farm off, if i havent already

[subtle finch]

23 zips, 10 sprinklers, 4 stashes

[iron spoke]

6 forges = 4 sandleaf plant loops. heavy xira needs none. 7th forge + one sc battery = 2 plant loops. then 1.5 plant loops for sc battery + xira component?

[blissful belfry]

is there a way to smart dispose sewage or do you just chain away with splitters and put treatment at the end for when the other side fills?

[subtle finch]

im not keeping track
all i know is i had the half planter since 1.1

[shadow void]

now that i think about it, why is this place like 2x as big as it needs to be?

[subtle finch]

i tracked the half seeder

[timber goblet]

crucible formulas only work one at a time right? like even if you have two sets of independent materials, they wont both complete at the same time?

[subtle finch]

12 sc takes 16 grinders/3 powder=5.3
i have 5.5 planters

whatever, im sure it was optimal

[iron spoke]

it checks out

heavy xira would need 4 more grinders tho

so that would account for the extra 2

[subtle finch]

i have the 3 forge in jingyu, another 3 there again next patch

am i the only one who don't want the 10 forge in main?

it kinda makes it boring without the crucibles

[iron spoke]

I like outputting my forges directly into the crucibles

makes it so I can spend the base xiranite recklessly

[subtle finch]

same 👊

[iron spoke]

same with all grinders

if I have room I'll splice a stash into it in case of weird offline clogging and then I just end up with extra processed material

[blissful belfry]

i think it does perform 2 magic at the same time and two items come out, but it cant use the result of one formula right into the other (it will use next cycle)

[iron spoke]

but generally the stashes are just a waste of power as a passthru

[subtle finch]

all my base have always been stashless

but im in a middle of construction right now, so cant avoid them

[iron spoke]

i like to do excessive fractional stuff so renegade materials end up here and there for the stash to pick up. Just the stubbornness of wanting to keep very very slow production of gear components on all the time

[river wadi]

cant they still load and unload items even when unpowered

[iron spoke]

they can but I still want to send excess back to depot when something uneven happens

[marble marsh]

Got to love that ya can exactly see what part of my base was from a blueprint and what part I started messing with myself

[shadow void]

Yeah, mines. . .worse

[subtle finch]

this was one of my proudest layout last patch, it took like 6 total redo from scratch

[timber goblet]

oh okay thanks. the formulas have to be different right? it wont produce a single formula at twice the rate if you are supplying extra materials?

[marble marsh]

Looks nice

[keen river]

yes

[marble marsh]

I remember last patch when I had a entire outpost full of stashes filled with batteries lol

[shadow void]

This is the way

[blissful belfry]

this on the right is a good example @timber goblet , it produces the two liquids at the same time

[marble marsh]

Since I'm trying to play less and save up for when the outpost can be leveled again I did it ahead of time for once

Not as much as last time but it's something

[deft orbit]

How many thermal banks are you using?

[shadow void]

eh, I'll just manually transfer unless it gets to that point

[marble marsh]

2

[deft orbit]

when you are aboout to clog, put a 3rd one

[shadow void]

man, my factory is runny full HC valley 4 bats

[marble marsh]

Why?

[deft orbit]

shouldn't after 1.2

[deft orbit]

so you don't have excess material

[marble marsh]

Fair

I only produce like 4 items that can max out 2 of Wich will go into fully into another production line when those are clogged so I'm not that afraid

[marble marsh]

I set splitters there for a reason

I'm not in need of gear right now but having them is always nice

And if the parts and heavy xarnite max they will fully into gears

[sand pivot]

I loved AIC initially but now the processes just feel like way too overcomplicated for no reason so I just copy paste blueprints and do slight modifications that fit my purposes

[marble marsh]

Making sure that this line doesn't clog up and shut down the entire site

[marble marsh]

Clearly you've never played satisfactory or Factorio then lol

[sand pivot]

nope, not my type of game at all

[shadow void]

I'm runny full HC ValleyIV batteries because V4 stock bills are basically toilet paper at this point

[marble marsh]

Do ya have the 16m things from the shop?

[deft orbit]

don't worry, I droped satisfactory after 8 hours xD
yet AKEF is more like a tetris game, try to look at it in that way, is not that complicated when stuff "clicks"

[marble marsh]

Ya know they really should let us use water in valley too would open up a lot more use for valley after ya finish everything there

[shadow void]

300 of the trust items, meh

[sand pivot]

I mean I get the processes it's just like way too many steps which is kind of annoying to me in a way 😅

[blissful belfry]

what water

[sand pivot]

either way what's the meta production rn? 2 LC and what else?

[marble marsh]

The stuff that ya need for 90% of willing production

[marble marsh]

Heavy xarnite and the new parts if I'm correct

[sand pivot]

you can only have 2 regions at a time, when a new region beyond wuling gets released V4 will get deleted/ hidden, pretty sure

[uneven aspen]

no way they are related, there's no rng to deal with

[sand pivot]

that's what I heard at least

[echo fractal]

I liked ur desige so I mearged it in to one peace.
note: This is only 50% as effective as ur.

[sand pivot]

so I think it is intentional for V4 to slowly have no purpose (means you have achieved everything in V4 and completed the region "rebuild process")

[sand pivot]

how many of each?

[marble marsh]

1 of each as far as I'm aware

We need more ore nodes

Specifically the blue stuff

I'ma go to bed now see y'all later

[sand pivot]

see ya, thank you and have a nice one 🫡

[unreal crater]

What's the current max prod?

[uneven aspen]

base line is 12/m sc wuling and 6/m heavy xiranite.

go 0 syringe a for max 22.5/m hetonite production or lower hetonite production for some syringe A

[subtle finch]

this is my ratio

[uneven aspen]

then you have like 30/m xiranite left over for gear components and metatransfer dense originum powder for that or 1.25/m sc wuling battery

[unreal crater]

Aight, seems to be unchanged from the past week. Thanks

[bleak frigate]

Whats more important current data or theoretical?

[real crescent]

current

cos its whats actually happening

[bleak frigate]

I tried to make more syringe A but hetonite parts would go to 0

Ok 👍

[red shoal]

seems like you're using more cuprium than you can mine

[sand pivot]

what are you selling on your outposts if you don't have yazhen A? SC bat?

[bleak frigate]

Whats the maximum to mine?

I did 3 spots

[sand pivot]

nvm you're selling hetonite parts just realized

[red shoal]

how many cuprium lines are you using? 7?

[fervent lodge]

you can now actually SEE

[bleak frigate]

Idk its a blue print hahahahah

But the problem is on the outpost, can only trade the new batteries, no syringe nor small

Maybe Im missing more mining but Idk where

[fervent lodge]

[red shoal]

the thing is, your cuprium theoritical says it's using 7 lines, which 1 more than what you have
you've already mine every cuprium in 1.2

[unreal crater]

Probably your regional dev level. Check if it's lv10

[bleak frigate]

Its 12 and dense originium powder metatransfer

Maybe I should turn off gear factory now that I have 2k

[uneven aspen]

still doesnt work for me either

new outpost made and labeled

[red shoal]

my god just check how many cuprium lines you're using

[bleak frigate]

So this is the mining of the guide

[fervent lodge]

and you didn't believe in me

it's perfect

[fervent lodge]

yeah but if you click you can see the cloggers and exactly how much of what is in the reactors

[pulsar willow]

I made a similar thing but the ferrium powder is made on the spot

[bleak frigate]

180
But I have 90
Must be a mining spot problem

[upper python]

Does anyone have a link to blueprints for full Wuling optimised bases, all 3, that isn't connected to a video?

[red shoal]

why is the guide using more than you can mine

[pulsar willow]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

[upper python]

all of the ones that have complete bases are all videos

[shadow void]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465512615898779810

[fervent lodge]

i don't actually see the issue here
show bp?

[teal plume]

may i ask for help regarding my factory

[uneven aspen]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=H9y1g6u9Z1Y1A4

[fervent lodge]

oh interesting

ok this helps diagnose things way better

[uneven aspen]

it does work in-game 👍

[teal plume]

is there a way to fix this without dismantling and rebuilding the entire thing again

[fervent lodge]

didn't feed conduit with anything

second forge

zero sewag

stuck on xiranite because xiranite not used

-> no output

CAQiHggDEgoQLBgUIA4qAghaEg4QGhgUIBIqBghaEgIQSyIlCAUSIQgCECoYFSAROhcKBBABGAEKAAoNEP///////////wEYAg==

paste this, works

[uneven aspen]

oh i need to simulate the sewage now too?

[fervent lodge]

well, it's a conduit

[tepid wigeon]

What part are you trying to fix?

[fervent lodge]

it doesn't create stuff

[tepid wigeon]

Cuprium is capped?

Gotta use more of it then

[teal plume]

the cuprium maxes out and doesnt produce sewage

[uneven aspen]

😔 so i repeated a similar mistake as last time

[teal plume]

how exactly

[tepid wigeon]

Make another hetonite crucible or just destroy some stock

[teal plume]

stock it is then

[fervent lodge]

make yazhen a

easy to throw up a quick line

[tepid wigeon]

Or that

[fervent lodge]

but this time it was really easy to see, i'd probably not realize it faster
so feature is working heh

[uneven aspen]

last time it was xiranite production needed to get it working for 5 reactor xircon

this time also need sewage conduits properly produced as well

like i made sure that there was xiranite this time 😔

did not think about sewage sources

[fervent lodge]

i'll see if i can throw up a depot management thing tomorrow

so you don't have to explicitly produce things and fight with the local economy autodetect

as soon as a recipe touches a conduit/depot loader, it's local and will be constrained across the entire network as if there's 0 of it at the start of the sim

[boreal lake]

[pulsar willow]

Elevation

[teal plume]

facing the same issue

is there a hetonite blueprint that doesnt require upgrades

im broke beyond belief and cant afford area expansions

[fervent lodge]

just destroy cuprium then

[pulsar willow]

Make it yourself, not that hard to be honest

Throw everything into the tiny place you have

[fervent lodge]

all your earning goals can be satisfied with 2 battery lines

they're broke as shit you can't earn more than that anyway

heavy xiranite is a good choice too

[white dune]

how many thingy things do we need?

to make the red juice

[fervent lodge]

all the thingy things

[white dune]

is ut 8 or 4?

[pulsar willow]

8 you can't do

We only have 6

[white dune]

wdym

[pulsar willow]

We don't have enough cuprium

[white dune]

oh ok

[pulsar willow]

You get like 4.5 hetonite parts per minute if you use everything for hetonite parts

[white dune]

okok ty for letting me know!

[pulsar willow]

Still better than making syringes

[white dune]

i made 8 but i havent done the math so its just running rn 😭

then i realized 5 output is too mcuh since we only need 2/10 sec

[pulsar willow]

Not a big problem honestly if you have stocked a lot of ore

[undone current]

aint its same profit?

[white dune]

i did but when i got done finishing the thing then, it went down 7k

then i went to sleep so idk if its empty by now or not

[young sierra]

it's the same profit

[pulsar willow]

Aren't syringes a bit cheaper?

[shadow void]

Someone show me their Hetonite production numbers, plz

[young sierra]

hetonite needs some ferrium sand

[trail heath]

anyone have blueprint (Asia) for small heavy xiranite bottle production?

[pulsar willow]

If you make a bit of extra syringes C from 9 excess ferrium, is it going to be more profitable?

It's gonna be superslow, I know, but still

[alpine tendon]

I accidentally shoved some acid in there, how do I remove it?

[outer bramble]

try use bottle on it?

[pulsar willow]

Place a fluid container outside and connect it to a yellow output

[outer bramble]

[alpine tendon]

is there any way to change what goes where?

[uneven aspen]

pipe it out

delete pipe

repeat until it's all gone

[young sierra]

nah it's locked which is annoying

[alpine tendon]

it is very annoying

[outer bramble]

Probably need to give feedback about it

[fervent lodge]

constraints are good actually >:3

[young sierra]

Among the things I find annoying it's very far down the list and we can work around it :p

I care more about the lack of cuprium ore and ferrium ore in wuling

[tepid wigeon]

I would just delete and replace xd

Powder just goes back to your backpack

[iron spoke]

it's weird that take all doesn't exist for crucible reactors

[young sierra]

it's probably because there's no difference between input and output slots

an item in the crucible can both be a product and an ingredient

It's one of my favourite features with the crucible since you can move items through it.

[iron spoke]

you can still grab both product and ingredient from other facilities tho

[young sierra]

yeah

[iron spoke]

so its weird that we can't do that at all with crucible reactors

[inland ruin]

so, if i reclaim all the extra xircon fluid and turn it into heavy xiranite, what should I do with the "excess" xira?

[young sierra]

excess from where?

how many forges do you have making xiranite atm?

[ancient wagon]

I don't even know whats happening

[unreal crater]

You should use them for gear comps

[inland ruin]

im capped on all my mats though, even doing ferrium meta storage for extra yazen c

[nimble topaz]

7. 1 forge making heavy xira from 2 xircon byproduct

[unreal crater]

u can make LC wuling batteries if u want

[young sierra]

yeah

make lc batteries

unless you dont have originium

[ancient wagon]

I wish I just had a way to speed up production

[inland ruin]

my biggest annoyance is that theres no way to keep up with the outposts and make gear parts even at a snails pace

[young sierra]

the only recommendation I can give is never use new parts for artificing fodder.

just make the base item and then feed it with items made from older gears

you can instead of making lc batteries, make xiranite components to help with gearing

[upper fiber]

speedhack will be banned

[sand pivot]

dude this is kind of cringe ngl, I have hetonite + heavy xiranite in the new outpost and yazhen + SC production in wuling city however I am using too much copium so I either turn off the heavy xiranite/ hetonite components or I turn off the yazhen...

but the issue is my batteries rely on my yazhen production cause of the sewage

[upper fiber]

you halved the yazhen production

[sand pivot]

I can't

it won't produce enough sewage for 2 SC production lines and the factory will collapse

like not enough power if I halve it

like the solution would be moving the hetonite + heavy xiranite to wuling city but I can't even do that cause I need the precipitation acid and the pool is in the new outpost

[keen river]

i just moved the xircon production to outpost

so now SC batteries just take 2 belts of xircon from depot

[sand pivot]

unless I manually transport it all the way from the new outpost to wuling

[upper fiber]

depot back 1 of your cuprium from part and 1 from moulding

[keen river]

also yeah, it only matters where you do the initial refinement

[sand pivot]

yeah I guess I will have to do this ngl

[keen river]

you can pack the refined copium back to depot and use it

[sand pivot]

I see what you mean, do the refining part in wuling city and the shredding in the new outpost

also viable

[keen river]

yeah

[sand pivot]

I will try to do this

should I get rid of the yazhen completely though?

[keen river]

i kept it running with 2 belts of copium for now, but i think i will eventually turn it off

[tall tangle]

up to you. i keep it for extra penny

[sand pivot]

rn I have 2 SC, 1 yazhen A, 1 heavy xira and 0.5 hetonite

[keen river]

although new map contains some more cuprium sources so it will change the computation

[sand pivot]

oh yeah that's actually what I am missing

I forgot to craft the mining rigs oops

[keen river]

i mean

the new map that is about to be released in like two weeks contain even more copium nodes

but yeah, there are two zones in the Marker Stone too

[tall tangle]

.5 yazhenA and .5 heto

[keen river]

i do .5 yazhen and rest goes to new components

[sand pivot]

so 0.5 each right?

[keen river]

yeah, i guess

i think full heto needs 8 belts of cuprium and i only feed it 4

[tall tangle]

well you can .25 heto and 1 yaA, but i would not recommend

[keen river]

we also likely need to stockpile the processed cuprium rock thingy for next event

but there is still a week to it

[ancient wagon]

I feel like ill never get enough power for endgame

[peak sinew]

my current build can fulfil the new outpost buyer

dont have to rebuild anything

SC is enough

huge nap

[peak granite]

You already maxed the oupost level or no?

[peak sinew]

just 2

what is the max lvl

[deft orbit]

where was the 2nd zone (May 14) located at, north east of the city, no?

[upper fiber]

should be right of maintenance area

[deft orbit]

hmm... if we have to move Xircon Effluent from there... better prepare the core AIC area rather than outposts...

[upper fiber]

wonder how much we will get... if 30/min then it is lame

[deft orbit]

probably enough for 1 extra heavy xira

we are currently converting 120 ugly effluent into 30 nice effuelnt, so yeah, I think it's gonna be 30/m

[tall tangle]

speculations are harmful and copium. people hoped that purificator will be 1:2 but it ended up being 4:1

[deft orbit]

specilations are good if they are made with common sense

we saw in the video that we will get at least 1 free xircon efluent, that's at least 30/m, which is what a heavy xira maker needs

so it makes sense to think we'll just get those 30/m more for that extra heavy xira, and that's it

Bad expeculation for example would be wondering if we'll get outpost lvl 3 on may 14 too, which I doubt because they didn't mention anything about it

[tall tangle]

well it kinda made sense before that there will never be any production with <1 ratio, but here we are

[keen river]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1ssmzcb/endfield_aic_models/ oh man i need this so badly

[deft orbit]

that screams "make me with LEGO"

[keen river]

I mean yeah

You probably could make paper model too, but some details might be pain to get

[keen river]

Thats the new map

[deft orbit]

it may be easier if you do details with printed parts

[deft orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/608181227496800267.gif?v=1

now to find the entance

[keen river]

Its next to originium deposit

Small road over wooden bridge into rock cave-in

If you parkour there is an unique invisible wall that has white ripple effect as you touch it

[deft orbit]

yea, sounds about right xD

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

[hoary crag]

ngl I'm starting to think that when they said they'll focus on wuling in year 1 doesn't necessarily mean we won't get a 3rd region till year 2

3rd region could probably still in wuling, maybe that exclusion zone they're talking about

who knows?

[upper fiber]

nah, people will get bored

[deft orbit]

many people are so used to Genshin 1-per-year region that it's hard to predict what others will do

[hoary crag]

welp who knows ig

cuz I think at this rate, wuling will have way too many areas before we get region 3

they'd have to drop a patch or two without new areas

[deft orbit]

FILER!

[foggy pasture]

i mean Valley 4 is fair game still

[deft orbit]

imho V4 is done donette done

[foggy pasture]

Fair, but I wouldn't be surprised if they added another secular sub-region like the Quarry in the future. HSR backtracks to old regions every now and then to add new areas

[livid knoll]

Can someone explain to me what's going on in this picture, why is it asking me to make 114 xiranite/m when only 109/m is needed? When I remove the 0 xiranite planning on the target board, it goes back to the correct amount 109/m

[deft orbit]

what de jek is dat?

xD

[keen river]

Might be a bug in that tool

[livid knoll]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/

[keen river]

Satisfactory’s tools were riffled with such bugs

[alpine patio]

I watched both lisara and kyo base. Cant decide which is better. What are your yields

[livid knoll]

Ah damn that sucks...

[keen river]

Although note that since it produces the xircon stuff

You get the effluent from purification plant

[hoary crag]

V4 has 6 areas

• Hub
• Pass
• Quarry
• Park
• Lodespring
• Power

Wuling already has 5 this early on

• Valley
• City
• Stockade
• Marker
• Test (coming soon)

[keen river]

And this messes the ratios

[deft orbit]

Yeah but I don't see they adding more AIC relateed content there, I mean, Sandleaf is perfectly balanced there xD yet in Wuling, even after the Forge 12, we'll have 2 sandleaf powder in excedent

[keen river]

i think wuling will get at least 3 more maps

[torn yew]

because... why not? :))))))

[keen river]

there is obvious one new map attached to quinbo stockade

and then there is whole north exclusion zone that is teased from time to time

[foggy pasture]

I guess yeah, but wouldn't be surprised if they just added a random region for some extra mats

[keen river]

no way we dont get to go there

[deft orbit]

yeah but V4 is diferent, is the starting area and is the one that you could just rush the story and get everything to 18/m in a couple days

[keen river]

i fully expect v4 to be an intro zone and wuling to be the proper size of future regions

also v4 has at least one expansion tunel that is currently blocked

so that might be another map there

[foggy pasture]

They could also expand out from valley fort if they tried

[deft orbit]

V4 pacs and aic are practically full atp, we'll need another pac if that where the case.
What I do see tho is they adding more stuff to the bunny shop, like they added the wachy waving iinflatabla arm flailing tubemen

[wispy grove]

can u show us this bottom part?

[foggy pasture]

I have a decent amount of room for some stuff, could squeeze something in there. Though I agree with you that a new sub pac region is heavily unlikely

[keen river]

https://micro215.github.io/AKEF-AIC-Calculator/ i have used that thing for factory planning

it seem to work OK

[hoary crag]

there's a guaranteed area above wuling city

you can see a broken path on the northeast site

[hoary crag]

idk if there's any other hints where a new area could be placed

[keen river]

the most likely next zone is next to stockade near the sewage pool

[deft orbit]

🤔

[hoary crag]

exactly

[keen river]

there is even npc saying there is great stuff to find there and that path is blocked for now

[hoary crag]

tho I don't see any other possible paths

[keen river]

in v4 there are two possible zones:

[deft orbit]

that could be just for lore purposes since there was a dialoge back during the 1.0 story in there

[hoary crag]

not including the caved in path to test area ofc

[pulsar cypress]

Fangyi said also in her letter to endmin iirc.
Ask edmin to carve the path north if she dies at the rift.

[keen river]

one is here

[hoary crag]

not to mention them talking about a northern exclusion zone

[keen river]

there is an elevator that is broken currently and npc says he will repair it

[foggy pasture]

yeah valley fort

Nefarith ran away from there

[keen river]

it is also one of two regions where game kicks you from going out of bounds in v4

[wispy grove]

oh okay, you only have 104 water. your forge will clog cause theres 5 unprocessed xiranite
104 becomes liquid xira, 5 goes to cuprium. 5 are being created but doesnt know where togo

[keen river]

tho nothing there for now

other map imho is here

[foggy pasture]

I hope we get a snowy biome next considering they spent time on making snow physics

[deft orbit]

that should be pogchamp story with the russians

[tame ice]

does anyone have a gear blueprint for level 50 and a plant farm w it?

[keen river]

you can sort of see the map, the entrance is blocked like this, and if you approach the fence it kicks you out

its 99% another map, but might have been abandoned

[foggy pasture]

Might be content they're holding onto when Wuling is done but they're not quite ready for a new region. Or scrapped content like you said

[keen river]

for wuling there is this, but how this will work out shall see

there is even a prompt for it

and there is a passage in style of one between origin lodestone and science lab

but thats about all obvious places i have found

[livid knoll]

Yes but that's the part that I don't understand and asked in the first place. If i put ANY xiranite/m in the production target tab, it will always float 5 xiranite/m like you and me pointed out, and idk what is causing that besides it being a bug in the coding. If I remove the xiranite from the production target, it now show the proper amount.

It gets even worse when I set xircon as target as well, it floats like 100 or something xiranite than needed.

[wispy grove]

leme try it myself abit

[ruby sorrel]

it's completely broken rn cus of purification just do it by hand

[oak maple]

Can someone help me? I followed KyoStinV's video and tried replicating his blueprint, and it seems to work for the Yazhen Syringe C and LC wulling battery. (Battery is lower bc Im producing gear atm since my team needs it), but why is the gear production so slow? I have been waiting quite a while thinking it needed some time to ramp up

[ruby sorrel]

wym doesn't it get explained in the vid?

[keen river]

im pretty sure its by design

you would need to feed two xiranite belts to the gearing unit for it to run at full efficiency

but its not really a meaningful thing to do, you dont need that many gear items

[plain stratus]

Whats the status on Wuling now?

[jovial breach]

That is intended, you dont need more than 1/min gear component

[plain stratus]

What app is this

[wispy grove]

oh yeah it is a bug, i tried it myself. and there is a 5/min xira floating

[plain stratus]

Damn that a super time saver

[hoary crag]

slow gear production is almost always by design

since the main focus of factories rn, especially in wuling is to sell at outposts

not to mention you don't really need a lot of gear components unless you're actually planning to fully artifice on the new gear sets

[nimble topaz]

just artifice using other gears with easier component 😭

[wispy grove]

people who use heto comps for artificing are monsters🥀

[keen river]

The main problem is that you need a lot of credits for artificing

Its like 150-200k per try

And each try is only 40 or 80 components

There is just no reason to produce large quantities

[hoary crag]

wild

[hoary crag]

that's why the priority is to earn bills

[ruby sorrel]

that reminds me I should swap my xira comps to sc batts atp I have more of them than artifice items now

but maybe I should keep going in case next update the ratios aren't as favorable

[livid knoll]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/

[alpine patio]

whats site this from

[lyric kindle]

are yazhen syringe A's better to sell for money or should i be making hetonite parts to sell for money instead

cause syringe price seems chopped, kinda low

[alpine patio]

ooo looks good. your own build ?

[ruby sorrel]

just do whatever is convenient it's almost the same

[shadow void]

it depends, you shouldnt be using the Heto Comps for artificing

[keen river]

Well obviously

[shadow void]

but its 50 comps per gear

[keen river]

But his blueprint we were discussing produces xiranite components at 1/min

The lowest ones you mass use

But its still fine

[shadow void]

Xir and Cup should really be the comps you wanna make

[keen river]

Artificing mats are so expensive

[shadow void]

yeah

[keen river]

Its hard to even buy all of them each week

[shadow void]

just thru me for a loop when you said 150-200k per try and also said 40-80 comps per try.

150k would be 300 Heto Comps

[lyric kindle]

anybody know?

[shadow void]

each Heto made gear is 25k and 50 comps

Yes its expensive, comps arent that hard to make make tho. Main limiting factor is the 60 a weak catalyst

and the bills to buy them

[wispy grove]

you get the same

[lyric kindle]

yazhen without being in the negatives is

9/min ye?

[lyric kindle]

whats hetonite at, cause you can make 1 line at full speed, and the other is half speed

[wispy grove]

as long as you make yazhen c

[lyric kindle]

hm alr

[wispy grove]

it evens out

[lyric kindle]

yeah i was beginning to set that up now

also whats hetonite component speed supposed to be at, cause when i made it i had 2-3/min fluctuating, gonna swap to syringe and stuff for money now

[ruby sorrel]

hmm if you feedback the purification then it's 8xira:6water:3sewage:5ferr:5xircon? did I do the math right

[wispy grove]

at 6 cuprium lines you get 2.25/min comps

[lyric kindle]

yeah that kind of fluctuating is what i had for hetonite components so it seems i did have it set up correctly

Alr tyty

[glossy sequoia]

Can someone tell me how to handle this problem with Xircon production? I'm having excess sewage build up in the extended crucible so I split the sewage input from the cuprium, now I get less sewage. I removed the split and now I get sewage accumulation. I sent the excess sewage in the extended crucible to the purification unit, now I got no sewage in the extended crucible

[hoary crag]

are you aiming for 3/min or 6/min xircon?

[glossy sequoia]

im using 4 of this blueprint so 60/min xircon from all of them in total

[hoary crag]

hmm ic

[ruby sorrel]

are you looping back eff from purification?

[hoary crag]

that's probably what the exit conduit is for

[glossy sequoia]

yes im sending the inert xircon eff x 4 to purification and then to skyforge for large xiranite

[ruby sorrel]

if yes, 3sewage:5xircon otherwise 1:1

[hoary crag]

also you're giving it way too much xiranite, you only need one xiranite unloader per reactor

[graceful wraith]

Is this good enough for heto? I'm planning to put a heavy xiranite line in the same outpost so the purification's acid got somewhere to go too

[ruby sorrel]

well as long as you don't clog sewage everything else should work itself out

unless you have passthroughs or something

[glossy sequoia]

i'll try this. diodnt real;ise i gave 1 extra xiranite slot. ty for pointing that out. will update if problem still persists ty

[glossy sequoia]

yes the sewage clog is the real problem, hope that reducing 1 xiranite slot solves that issue

[hoary crag]

it won't really, it's just plain optimization

but who knows? it might fix it

but it is weird

[ruby sorrel]

if you're not supplying the correct amount of sewage it'll break

everything else depends on setup

[hoary crag]

other than the excess xiranite

his inputs actually checks out

[ruby sorrel]

but sewage directly impacts your ability to produce xircon

[ruby sorrel]

then it'll work ig

[fallow shale]

Single sewage input

[hoary crag]

0.5/s water
0.25/s sewage

since xircon also provides sewage every 4s

[ancient wagon]

How did i just find out about the protocol stash

[ruby sorrel]

okay I guess my ratios checked out if anyone wants to be a degen and use ratio on liquids instead of solids

[glossy sequoia]

bro could you tell how you did calculations ?

[ruby sorrel]

take your formulas and balance them

[glossy sequoia]

i can only do for solids, dunno abt liquids. how you add those splitters / convergers thats what i wanna learn

[ruby sorrel]

results 8xira:6water:3sewage:5ferr:5xircon when you loopback purification outputs

[carmine whale]

does this look fine or i redo factory?

[ancient wagon]

Probably fine

[valid gazelle]

I cooked so hard.. i cooked myself

[ancient wagon]

I need to figure out a good way to get more power

[hoary crag]

welcome to the cult

[valid gazelle]

dem

brother unlocked an easy mode

[ancient charm]

10 xiranite lines?

[hoary crag]

looking good

also yeah 10?

[ancient wagon]

I needa figure out the protocol stash, if 1 item just builds up in there then its useless

[valid gazelle]

should have noted...

[hoary crag]

the rule of thumb for protocol stashes is 1 item type per stash

cuz if you have 2 or more

[valid gazelle]

yep cuz if 1 item is full in the depot, the protocol stash refuses to work

[ancient wagon]

Ohh, ty

[valid gazelle]

even if other items arent stacked

[hoary crag]

if one is full on depot, it'll affect other items

since said full item will fill the stash, blocking other items

still waiting for the day they give us protocol stash plushies

[ancient wagon]

I think i'm good on them now, I used all my origocrust to make over 500

[valid gazelle]

500 ?

[ancient wagon]

Ya

[valid gazelle]

brother about to store the entire Talos 2 worth of storage

[hoary crag]

the great wall of stash

[ancient wagon]

I want this place

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/five-hundred-cigarettes-bortus-orville-cigarettes-500-gif-7580742793072271551

500 protocol stashes

[valid gazelle]

danggit

[ancient charm]

As much as I want to expand myfactory further it seems I have hit the 512 facility limit

[valid gazelle]

oooooh that's a nice xyranite layout.. can i take reference

[ancient wagon]

My limit right now is power

:(

[hoary crag]

you can fit two for a 6 forge setup

a 1 tile shorter version at the cost of 2 extra belt bridges

[ancient charm]

Im using 4.85k power maybe I can swap one of the SC burners to LC hm

[hoary crag]

this I plan to implement later

didn't have time to last night

[valid gazelle]

brother...

[ancient charm]

How

[hoary crag]

I haven't even set up a pwm yet

[ancient wagon]

I only have 1k power and i'm using 775

[ancient charm]

I only use 4.85k

[ancient charm]

This is wuling not V4

[ancient wagon]

I need to get there

[hoary crag]

waiting till I actually finish the factory, since I still have a thing or two not yet implemented

[vale topaz]

well, if you're not cutting out yazhen A production, since for efficient hetonite, you will need double that amount of cuprium which is not supported yet by the game. ( not enough cuprium ore node )

[valid gazelle]

the bajillion facilities on standby because "maybe i need to get some of this ill just create the entire production line for it"

[ancient wagon]

Well i need to go completely redo my factory with the protocol stashes, except its going to bring my power up a bunch

[ancient charm]

V4 factory is doodoo, still waiting for the day we get a QOL expansion for V4

[hoary crag]

best of luck

[valid gazelle]

something like this....

[hoary crag]

and once again

welcome to the protocol stash cult

[hoary crag]

I think I'll also be switching to dense ori meta and make LC batteries

[valid gazelle]

ya ~

[hoary crag]

2/min

still more than enough for a pwm

[valid gazelle]

wait

2/min ?

[ancient charm]

If I produce 1.5 LC/min it should be able to do 5k power

[valid gazelle]

i didnt look at it lol maybe i can..

[hoary crag]

well a little less than 2/min

[valid gazelle]

actually no im already burning 5.8k power

[hoary crag]

since dense ori afaik is still 25/min

[valid gazelle]

ya it is

[hoary crag]

so maybe around 1.67/min LC battery

[valid gazelle]

wait ..

oh it is

[ancient charm]

22.5 dense ori for pwm

[valid gazelle]

you still create them faster than the pwm

[ancient charm]

Rest can go to creating xir comps

Ferrium seems to be in same situation too hm

[valid gazelle]

im 5 facilities away from that 512 limit in wuling..

[ancient charm]

I hit it long ago

Had to rebuild my zipline routes from scratch

[valid gazelle]

i hit it too. that's why i had to build everything from the ground

too many bridges with the old build

[ancient charm]

From the ground up

[valid gazelle]

duh

7 xyranite lines with only 1 SIRcon and i hit the limit what

[ancient charm]

I need to take some time and optimise all the power lines and ziplines

[ancient wagon]

Holy just one of my outposts looks 10x better from using protocol stashes

[valid gazelle]

rebuilt everything and now i can do 10 xyranite lines, double SIRcons and didnt hit it

(barely)

[ancient charm]

iirc you only need like 2 stashes max in each outpost...

[ancient wagon]

My outposts have a lot of stuff

[ancient charm]

But I have everything in core AIC

[valid gazelle]

wait until he discovers that depot buses in Wuling is free to place wherever you want

[ancient charm]

Im still mad at HG for not making the length perfect for full row of depot buses

[valid gazelle]

you are 2 tiles short

[hoary crag]

yeah since the intervals for pwms are in the minutes

[ancient wagon]

I can save 5 power by using 1 stash for my 2 shredded that make the same thing :)

[valid gazelle]

lemme show you what real POWER Plateau looks like

[ancient charm]

If I set up a xir comp and yazhen C line I think it will exceed 5k power sadge

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/RfTn.gif

[ancient wagon]

WHAT IS THIS

[valid gazelle]

batteries

[ruby sorrel]

since I did the math already here's the correct splits to get 6.25 xircon.... I'm just going to assume that's floating point error that makes it say 6.255

[valid gazelle]

lots of them

[ancient wagon]

I should use one whole outpost for just power, then maybe ill stop hitting my limit

[valid gazelle]

no dont do like i did

i had too much room that's why i fooled around

[ancient charm]

You can fit 2 HC V4s in one outpost

[ancient wagon]

I don't think i can do that

[ancient wagon]

What

[ancient charm]

I have an entire V4 outpost empty

[bright zodiac]

LC power

its kinda good but v4 is already overflowing so

just choose your poison

[ancient charm]

But I still produce 18HC, 18 Buck A, Idk how much Citrome and Explosive but theyre maxed out storage

[valid gazelle]

18 HC ?

what ? you have enough ferrium for that ?

[ancient charm]

18

You can do 3 lines of HC

[valid gazelle]

im running 24 bucks A with 6 HC and im out of ferrium usage

[ancient charm]

Bruh

Why 24 buck A

[valid gazelle]

why not

[ancient charm]

Just go 18/18

[valid gazelle]

nah then i dont have use for my amethyst

[ancient charm]

Citrome

[vale topaz]

what prevent people from running more then 18 hc is originium.

[ancient charm]

Explosive

[ancient wagon]

I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about 😭🙏

[valid gazelle]

so im running 24 bucks A to clear up some originium for LC

making full use of amethyst

is it better to run citrome

[ancient charm]

If metatransfer from wuling to V4 is a thing I would agree

[vale topaz]

valley 4 region maxed or optimal production.
most of the time involve 18 hc and 18 buck/citrome A

[ancient charm]

But it is not a thing

[valid gazelle]

i'll take a look at that and see if the profit is better

didnt really think about making citrome c

[ruby sorrel]

if only we could meta xira into v4 then I can make xira comps there

[ancient charm]

Either way you are profitting so much bills your outpost cant print money fast enough

[ancient wagon]

I don't even have purple armor for my operators I am nowhere near maxing out valley 4

[valid gazelle]

its not about the money

it's about showing how Endfield is superior in every possible way

[ruby sorrel]

citrome is just to take advantage of another item being a different 80k cap

if you make both buck and cit it takes longer to cap

cus now you have 160k combined

[ancient charm]

The day when HG announces unlimited stock bills trading

[ancient wagon]

I needa put more drills, i'm using too much of origin i'm amethyst and ferrium

[valid gazelle]

"If you want these meds then you gotta EARN them. Get to work peasants"

[ancient charm]

I use the gold Yazhen for meds now

[valid gazelle]

well duh

they are strong af

with unlimited use

[ancient charm]

So many ppl still using Yazhen A

[valid gazelle]

jincao infusion has a limit of 3 for support operators

yazhen doesnt have that

[ancient charm]

Fym

[vale topaz]

Hmm, incoming new event might sound 'rush or forget reward' for new player sadly : /
From the looks of it require access to wuling factory and its latest sub region opened for factory.
You better focus on the story and just focus on making gear comp and cheap easy stuff to sell for now.
Cheap easy stuff for v4 : refined originium, amethyst part / bottle, ferrium part , steel part, buck c, citrome c, and basic battery.

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[vale topaz]

its the april 28th event....

[ancient charm]

Tf

[valid gazelle]

[ancient charm]

Ive never hit that limit before bruh

[valid gazelle]

neither do i

[ancient charm]

I max only use 1

[valid gazelle]

but that makes it the best support healing tactical

[ancient charm]

Only in recrisis

[valid gazelle]

jincao for your most controlled operator

everyone else just yazhen

[ruby sorrel]

too lazy just slap yazhen on everyone cus we were forced to make it entire 1.1

[valid gazelle]

the down side of gold yazhen and jincao is..

THE DAMN 5 PER CRAFT LIMIT

[ancient charm]

Lol

[valid gazelle]

[ancient charm]

That is not as big of an issue imo

[valid gazelle]

WHY CANT I JUST SHOVE IT INTO THE SHREDDER

[ancient charm]

I think the bigger issue is how we're not able to automate its production

[ruby sorrel]

crafting by hand is illegal, never do it

[vale topaz]

but it is one of the easy access for daily reward milestone....

[ancient charm]

Like sure I have to manually plant it but I want my AIC to automate the rest once I shove it into storage

[ruby sorrel]

I just do a daily

[valid gazelle]

wait

you plant it ?

[ancient charm]

Thorny Yazhen

[valid gazelle]

man my field are all ginseng

[ancient charm]

Ginseng for what

[valid gazelle]

crit and atk buff

[ancient charm]

Eh

[valid gazelle]

[ancient charm]

Hard skip

I just go for ult recharge

[valid gazelle]

ya

so you can give ginseng meat stew to Yvonne

and ult recharge to evryone else

[ruby sorrel]

which one is ult charge again

[ancient charm]

No

[ruby sorrel]

tbh I haven't used food since rhodagn

[ancient charm]

I just ult recharge everyone

[ancient charm]

Scorchbug

[ruby sorrel]

oh those are idek where they are

I think marker had a bunch

[valid gazelle]

wait..

this thing exist ?

[ruby sorrel]

but you can use it with the atk/crit buffs right?

[ancient charm]

Tbf tho so far none of the modes except recrisis needs extra consumables

[valid gazelle]

[valid gazelle]

no sadly

[ancient charm]

No

[valid gazelle]

only 1 food buff can exist

[ruby sorrel]

oh

[ancient charm]

Yes its the most amazing consumable you can get

[ruby sorrel]

I thought it was per buff type

not just food in general

[ancient charm]

I rather more ult up time than atk/crit buff

[valid gazelle]

i wish

[ruby sorrel]

so if you +def you can't +atk

[valid gazelle]

this + jacub or ginseng =

ye

maybe you can stack like

[ancient charm]

Get cucked

[ruby sorrel]

I should go delete my rice

[valid gazelle]

def, dmg red, atk, crit

and any of your operator becomes a walking catastrophe

[ruby sorrel]

that's what I want 🔥

[ancient charm]

I have 80k amethyst bottles

[valid gazelle]

but still

[ruby sorrel]

the only re-crisis I used food on was rhodagn anyways

[valid gazelle]

IT IS A CRIME WE CANT AUTOMATE CONSUMABLES

[ancient charm]

Yes

[ancient charm]

For trimming or just to clear?

[ruby sorrel]

trim

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/vBgsYlLlh4Y.gif

[ruby sorrel]

then I actually got investment and did the rest no buffs

[ancient charm]

Im so glad I have multiple teams that fit each recrisis instead of having to brute force every recrisis with one team

[valid gazelle]

yvonne

💀

[ruby sorrel]

I don't use her anymore

[valid gazelle]

im still using Laevatain ~

she makes farming stages super fast

[ancient charm]

Laevatain team for Rhodagn and Marble
Yvonne team for Triaggelos
Laev Rossi hybrid team for Nefarith

Did I miss any

[ruby sorrel]

other than the elite mats it's just invested dps uses ult everything dies

[valid gazelle]

f trianggelos that thing phase 2 is so time consuming

[ancient charm]

Unfortunately ZFY still in middle of building

[valid gazelle]

Gilberta mvp

[ruby sorrel]

yvonne for triag wow I couldn't get that to work

[ancient charm]

You have to disrupt the boss at the right time to prevent that time consuming strike you have to hide under shield for

[valid gazelle]

yep

[ancient charm]

Gilberta mvp

[valid gazelle]

i tried my hardest to time that correctly and skip half of his 2nd phase

so damn annoying

[ancient charm]

Yvonne was the better choice compared to Laevatain for Triaggelos trimming

[valid gazelle]

Yvonne nuked him out of existence

kinda want to last rite tho..

[ancient charm]

iirc you have to interrupt at the phase the boss lies down and sends the shockwave

It will sorta reset the whole attack sequence

[valid gazelle]

the moment he's stunned he's dead

[ancient charm]

Just ult everything

[valid gazelle]

[alpine patio]

Whats the current best yield for wuling ?

[valid gazelle]

make the most out of your copium

cuprium*

[ancient charm]

12 SC, 6 Heavy Xiranite, 22.5 Hetonite

[valid gazelle]

or just.. full yazhen A depends on what you want

[ancient charm]

Yazhen A not worth

[valid gazelle]

how so ?

[ancient charm]

Can fit I think 1.67 LC in too

[ancient charm]

You profit more on het parts than yazhen A

[valid gazelle]

@hikarin did a spreadsheet, it kinda shows similar yield on everything

[tepid wigeon]

There's some sort of crazy optimization you can do to even it out but idk what that is

[sullen cypress]

finally remade my xircon prod with extend crucible and combine with heavy xiranite, lot of space saved

[ancient charm]

Also het parts needed for het comps more use than yazhen A

[valid gazelle]

eh... do you really need that much het comp

[tepid wigeon]

I only got like 1k components

[ancient charm]

U cant produce and cup comps anymore tho

[tepid wigeon]

will be enough for a few characters

[valid gazelle]

hmm ?

i can tho

[ancient charm]

Hetonite

[valid gazelle]

but you still need copium and xyranite gear

else how would you get artificing gears

[tepid wigeon]

you can make cup components just have to cut het production for it

[ancient charm]

Xiranite gear is easy to make still

[valid gazelle]

wait.. dont tell me you artifice with het

[ancient charm]

Can swap LC out for gear

[valid gazelle]

[ancient charm]

Cuprium feels like a nono

Speaking of artificing

[valid gazelle]

whaa- but cuprium gives artificing gloves for agility and strength

[ancient charm]

Is it more efficient to hit pity or build multiple mid tier gearsand use those for artificing?

[ancient charm]

Just hit pity

[valid gazelle]

ermm build the nonset one that matches the stats (cuz its stronger) if any

wdym it saves a lot

i once got full artifice on a stat with just 5 artifices

[tepid wigeon]

rng be rng

[valid gazelle]

ya

but still non sets are meant to be artificed

[ancient charm]

Wheres rng when u need

[magic geyser]

Why is the factory game play so much fun? I have an absolute spaghetti mess but it works!

[vale topaz]

because you can achieve the result in different ways.

[valid gazelle]

that's the beauty of it

[ancient wagon]

I just spent like 5 minutes trying to make a power line work

And I got it short enough

[valid gazelle]

@dreamy jungle 🐍 🐍 🐍

xyranite snake crawling through the base ~

[marble yarrow]

snek

[magic geyser]

Mine is not as compact but lol I just plop buildings down in any open space.

[valid gazelle]

huge

[vale topaz]

making power line at valley 4 is tough.
once you're at wuling, its power line is easier to manage

[valid gazelle]

wdym

dont you like 80.1

[magic geyser]

Those water pipeline snek I love it.

[valid gazelle]

wanna see the whole picture ?

[vale topaz]

[magic geyser]

wow how do you zoom out that much and get clean picture?

[ancient wagon]

I'm just too stingy to put an extra pylon or relay tower down lol

I'm cooking my power supply by putting so many drills down

[valid gazelle]

no its stitching a bunch of screenshots together

[magic geyser]

Silly question how do you get a screenshot without the UI?

[valid gazelle]

when you pause, the ui disappears for a split second

good luck

[ancient wagon]

I did another 7.5hr session but i'm not stopping yet
My ears hurt so much from my headphones

[vale topaz]

we need a better zoom out for factory

[valid gazelle]

[vale topaz]

think maximum coverage is... 35*35 ? for zoom out size

[valid gazelle]

why do i feel like im missing something........

OH SHIT

FILLING STATIONS

MAH FILLING STATIONS

[fallow shale]

May I know how/where did you get this?

[valid gazelle]

operator gift or you can craft it

[undone pagoda]

ok! i just unlocked the sub pac in wuling for the marker stone area, i NEED a small temp blueprint for producing heavy xiranite PLEASEEE

[valid gazelle]

some recipes are locked in the Crafting Manual tho remember to clear those too

[fallow shale]

Seems I need to get gift daily.....

[green sleet]

Idk how i managed to do this, but they work so... yay?

[ancient charm]

height difference

[green sleet]

Oooh. Well thats neat

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/what-sort-of-sorcery-is-this-bazarack-farzar-what-is-this-magic-works-of-magic-gif-26209796

[marble yarrow]

what about conduits

[ancient wagon]

Is this used for something?

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/88aT.gif

[sick basin]

What do u mean?

[alpine patio]

22.5 het parts per min ?

[sick basin]

Isnt this a wallpaper

[valid gazelle]

the old pipe screensaver on win xp

[alpine patio]

Possible ?

[ancient wagon]

Idk, normally something like that "Clean Water" only shows up if theres a purpose for it

[reef dagger]

not parts, base hetonite

[sick basin]

Well, ye
You use water in wuling, its important
Very, important even

[green sleet]

Itll also show that for the water in Valley IV, but y'cant use water pumps there yet.

[ancient wagon]

Well I'm not in wuling so useless for me 🥳🥳

[sick basin]

[raven finch]

how does everyone build so nicely with aic stuff, im struggling to build antying on markstone

[ancient wagon]

No idea, I just shive stuff where it fits