#aic-factory
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@subtle finch can i ask why you need a spiter here before coverger?
I mean storage Cuprium full.
yes
or transfer some cuprium to vally 4 for now
smth like this
To get black fluid?
After looking at the new expanded crucible:
is it correct that one expanded crucible can only ever reach 50% Xircon efficiency?
Because even when I input twice the water and twice the Xiranite, it still only produces only 1 Xircon in 4 seconds.
Jincao tea?
i actually reverted that, i found out i was just missing converger prio on the other input
yeah cus it cloged so just transfer some for now, you can use it later when needed
Black Liquid comes from making Cuprium. But you can't make anymore Cuprium because your storage is full.
Whats your cuprium ore yield?
for 2nd outpost
180
what you mean converger prio ?
also i like green more than red
when one of the converger input is valid, and not a belt, eg depot bus, units, splitters, convegers, conduits, etc
it acts in priority mode instead of roundrobin
this is advance tech
Oh so nothing to worry about?
I mean, it's not going to work unless you get rid of some Cuprium.
i didnt have converger prio on the sewage+effluent input so sewage took all the traffic
your cuprium is full, try make something out with it
And it will get stuck again eventually if you're not using at least the same amount of Cuprium that you're producing.
or your sewage production will be off
there are nuance to converger prio though, idk if you care
but that's how it works in general
so like this? for priority eff?
same reason why some of these limiters are held against the depot, to act as converger prio
yes
back/middle is always last prio luckily
but make sure to place it with a blueprint
I think the more important part you need to focus on is how much Cuprium you're producing and using.
wait let me just copy paste my old explanation
is this max efficiency for 1.2?
yeah kinda is
what do you do with the last forge of the sky?
hows your heto yielding 4/m tho
sacrfised yanzhen production
owh the syringe is off nvm
yeah
1.25sc battery or cuprium/xira comp or scheduled heavy xiranite prod
It's jumping 4-5 so that's fine yeah.
have anyone tested if fluid control unit still bugged offline?
any has compact yazhen grass factory only like 6-8 in a single spot..
Does someone know the answer to this?
Am I just doing something wrong? Drives me crazy.
You could fit 1.5/m Yazhen Syringe C with the other Ferrium then Metastorage
he used all cupirum tho
My brother is typing
yeah, you need another crucible for the extra xircon eff

chat I have come to a grand realization
anyone here has a more compact build here for yazhen.... cant find a single idea in #1461542035617091681
how much more compact do you need ๐ญ
have anyone tested if fluid control unit still bugged offline?
pipe control port?
doubt any have, it's unnecessary for normal production
Finally compacted 2 Batteries and Hetonite in the new area
LIKE THIS
Yes it can. I usually give it 10-20 unit of sewage as a kick start after that i disconnect the sewage pipe
just longer belt btw
they look identical to me ๐ญ
I SEE SO ITS REALLY JUST A BELT LOL
Try linear
WOW THAT LOOKS MORE AMAZING AND PLEASING TO EYES
thanks
IS IT FINE TO YOINK THAT?
btw @subtle finch do you need to make
converger for xiranite?or can i just let it cloged ?
Asia server?
BTW I LIKE YOUR FACTORY IS SO CLEAN TO LOOK AT
you're still at 5 normal crucible + 4 forge too?
no its fine i just mean the idea.. i plan to make it manually
Yupp got 1 free forge now
you can't
there's actually more advance reason why it's there, im lazy to explain 
Ahh, sure thing!
that will clog if you let xiranite move freely
unless sewage is controlled exactly
Why are you people even making yazhen
This isn't making sense
yep
give more carbon for xyranite
Huh?
basically that
Does it not work with sandleaf?
refine yazhen give 2 carbon
Wait what
you are like me like 2 days ago 
Yazhen to Refine gives 2 Carbon tho

@marble yarrow look how simple it is to fix their clog 
1 splitter solves everything
I currently have 9 sandleaf setups
You're telling me i can have 10 carbon with just 5 setups?

yeah i just realize it too like 2 days ago
Goddamnit at this point I should just wipe my entire wuling AICs and start from 0
then i just broke down my xyranite factory again
Son ๐ญ
Don't tell me there's a way to double xir production
nah
the basics of "exact input-output" ๐ญ
half xircon reactors are bad kids waiting to wreak havoc
IS THIS OK ?
Btw what's the advantage of the Expanded Crucible
this
dang massive crucible
1.3 expandeder cruciblle
I still think the fact it can only make 15/min xircon per crucible is stupid =3=
Why is my entire aic not working suddenly????
Yeah...
It's been working through the last patch???
same same... 
wait I justy realised, does it both make and use the liquid xiranite in its "inventory" ? 
Like it was working 2 days ago and I haven't touched anything???
eh?
@subtle finch so now i made blueprint remove and then place it again ?
What happened???
You can feed yazhen to another seeder for double
I was confused why it only had 2 pipe outputs I thought you had to loop back the pipes in the crucible
but it would take a way the ability to recycle sewage, so I can't complain beyond that
Everything is clogged??
yeah
How?
on the contrary, how 15?
just copy->delete->paste this part and you're good ๐
im dumb that explains why it confused me so much I never realised it worked like that
So can i transfer acid to my main aic in wuling?
One expanded crucible only produces 1 Xircon every 4 seconds
wait you cant clog the water too ??or you do need that ?
yeah via bottle then you use separating unit
why not, you cant use it anyway, rate is too slow
So i made the new battery n the inert xircon i treat it to produce xiron effluent n i wanna make that into liquid heavy xiranite but i got no acid
actually idk not in the formulat at all must be some hidden again 
also you really don't trust me with that tank huh
my pipes are completely empty just so you know

Ah so you produce Xircon exclusively in the second Expanded Cricible.
why hg? just why...
you could store heavy and make it liquid at the place with acid
We were doing everything in one (as it is promoted in the simulation tutorial) and then you are limited to 15/min
xircon production in one crucible
Wait a min ur right
But rn i turned it into xircon again to feed the battery thats fine too right for now hahaha
Be like this guy or use conduits
WHAT THE HELL
Madness
I thought its impossible to pipe it that long lmfao
y see i also get extra inert from making heavy xira every 4 days
the crucible is for forge space
Im having water bottleneck here argh
what is the IN.. 2 xyranite, 1 water, 1 sewage, 1 ferrium powder and its cooking on its own to xircon?
If you use logistics (pipe control port, bridges, etc)
why people stuck at moulding? did you use anyone's bp?
i still have the old 10 forge setup because the layout is just so neat
i still don't know how make the expanded crucible look pretty in the middle
preloaded with some sewage before you ask
just to make sure the max ore yield for curpium is now 180/min yea?
Lol i made this maself fr
Basically remove all 5-slot crucibles and there are space to play Tetris with
it's as wide as packageU so might look good together
my new rates are looking good 
TLDR all in on hetonite and heavy
2.06 sc wuling ๐ฅ
eh. comps stop at 10k
we hoard in this house 
almost there.
10k is not enough. I've used more then that in a single go. Granted it was saved up for a while.
I have way too many xiranite comps to care
here meta transfer got used for ori blocks?
yes, for the 1.25 sc
10k is 5m wuling bills...
i could go to hc bat again for higher surplus
and?
you have so much bills?
Can acid go into a water treatment unit to make it disappear?

no
has anyone done the math on how much product we need to sell / week to afford to clear out the artificing shop weekly?
and how mcuh we'll have left after buying all'at
you need more than 14m weekly
easiest to say is, max your sc bat, max your hetonite part, max your heavy xira
you have more than enough
sadly theres not enough stockbills to reach taht shi
no one yet, it involves the new monitoring + better delivery
no one accounted for those new numbers yet
What do I do with the acid to get rid of when making the thing on the right
better delivery is 119k.
use it for another crucible?
IDK how much the new monitoring is yet. last ones I did was 280k/shot
just loop it back
some can go to 360k or 400k
pretty nice
i fakin forgot to add heavyxira output
dang it
i got 360k from lv3
tf? new batch of lv3?
although probably not the best
How many crucibles is it to make this? Two expanded ones?
hm I see. aight
you can use priority converger to send it back to the crucibles safely
just use converger and cycle it back. it'll fizzle out
like this
this image is the max rate for now
1 is enough, but thats not what you want
all-in copium for heto parts is the best?
is this like connected to one normal xircon factory and the inert is connected to purifier for faster xircon fluid?
heto/medA are the same no matter what ratio
cause unless the IN xircon fluid can keep up the sewage will always decrease
UH
of course if you use the parts for heto comp, then you lose profit ๐
if you're lazy then just keep the yazhenA
makes sense...
you can't really just "keep" it, you need to make more of it still compare to 1.1 
xircon into batteries. inert purified into heavy xira
that still requires additional crucibles, so better just make heto, if you're gonna deal with them anyway
at least you have access to heto comp/parts if you need it
now i'm using everything, except xiranite for sure
hm
Skill issue
upgrade your depots 
i'm still using ori blocks for the LC bat, maybe i should sacrifice yazhen C to get some ferrium for another SC bat...
i can calculate your profit if you like
i went with lc first too, until i found out how easy it is to setup the extra sc
this is it for now, i might change to sc later 
I MEAN WHERE THE XIRCON FLUID ENTERING TO CRUCIBLE CAME FROM?
bro
Can u make me dinner
ill make you pregnant ๐ซ
WHAT
i tried to purified the inert tand give it back and it cant keep up 
can you calculate my zhuang pulls
is this a stupid plan for that one stray xiranite forge LOL
can you guys go somewhere private
Idk it just happened
fr? howd u deal with the ratios
fix ratio for only 1 item, the rest will follow
lol
lol
tho the purification unit is also why we're scrambling to find answers for the last 30/min xiranite
things could be good if i can switch pipe
it wasnt a big problem as i thought, but it could make things look prettier
how much of the parts are you using for comp?
as i remember that was 30/32
about 0.9 ig
Crashing out
crashing in
in
B O T T L E S
this is literally me with my AIC 
it works @subtle finch thankyou 
oohh.. i see 
ngl at this point i'd rather have 7 or 9 forges than 8
i really did made an elaborate plan for the extra forge huh ๐ญ
lol
sonits like instead of using 3 normal crucible to make battery you use 2 expanded
@subtle finch also turns out this water pipes need a priority reset or it will pooling in purifier 
@sterile stratus this is as close as i can get from the aic report
dunno about the power so i set it to 5000w
iirc you need atleas 4 for same result. same power cost, but way more space taken and also pipes spaghetti
Anyone have tips for efficient Hetonite and Xircon production?
that's like everything 
look up on yt
mhm i see
wait can i get the sheet
anyone have good zipline for the new map?
Can anyone share a new Factory?
you really dont need much tbh
My factory kinda messy doe
just make a zipline from the nearest teleport to thea lluvium
Mine doesn't work anymore
and make a few ziplines for photography
it's not that i need much. i want one that use the least amount of zipline and connect to all the collectable
i have some pieces... 7+1 forges, 2 SC lines, heto parts, Yazhen A and stuff
yeah no u dont really need much collecting atp
collectible is next to teleport
but you'll have to edit some parts tho
Can you share it?
there is like 0 collectible in that image
Im working at my wuling base right now
tbh you should ask people for the blueprint channel and browse there
idk the channel tho ๐ฅ
The problem is my wuling base and jingyang
๐ญ
Hey im level 35 and should i focus on making Hc valley battery, buck capsule A and cryston component?
Ang the hetonite components
1 is few steps away. cave is not too far either, i doubt many people will place those in cave
#1461542035617091681 many interactions should mean good
browse wuling base there, gl
your base is bigger than mine bro mine is too cute
dunno, how giving that image even give any help to my question
Dump the acid output from the Purification Unit back to the pond If you don't wanna risk looping it back and getting clogged.
Have a backup Water Treatment Unt and Conduit Sewage Reserves for the Reactor Crucible for in case you get sewage surplus (clogging) and deficit.
Its maxed outt
Well im fked up
Noted, thanks
Aight gonna blow my brains out

whats your regional lvl?
does moulding unit need two chains of refined ore to produce bottle or is 1 enough to maxxed out its efficiency?
oh nvm have u done the latest story?
need 2 chains
Endfield sucked my brain juice im now lobotomized

drink
wouldnt that overcap though? im currently using 210 out of 180 cuprium
then dont use 2 chains

and i havent even got to the hetonite lol
Help
but if only 1 chain, wouldnt the efficiency be halved?
I just reach wullling and don't know what should i do with valley base
true
with new recipes we can only underproduce
you cant have it all you know
It's irrelevant now. The factory reward system is just mid tbh. Designing the factories are really engaging but it doesn't really pay off
Is there any good blueprint for valley rn :<
yeah but for now i still using it
Im newbie
really bro...
what about artificing
@subtle finch do u have a 25/min belt setup that doesnt break offline
Suggest me some. good blueprint pls
How many forges can we place this update max? Is it 6 or 8?
or best if you have it ._.
even if you don't optimize for it, you'll still get the materials eventually. so what's really the rush? I can clear all content available now even at just level 80
im using this but the splitter just stops splitting properly after some time
ok...
pretty sure only the 5/min is unstable no?
I am not touching sht anymore
splitter+converger should work right

ive been using the same 25/s in the past with ferrium metatransfer, and it was fine
that one is good too โฌ๏ธ
Awesome
Ill use a depot loader for the batteries anw so i dont mind this
if you have one laid out already, don't sweat too much on optimizing it. I'm sitting at max currency with nothing to spend it on.
Hey guys. Whats the 'solution' to what I should be procuding with the new update?
others dont make solutions
they make problems
if you have multi color bottles you can kinda store same type of fluids in different bottle for future uses 
what if I store inert xircon effluent in ferrium steel amethyst and cuprium bottles and then make some fancy production line 
nah just joking you dont need liquid solutions to sell bills
more like its a preference now
a fun thing to do
We're gonna spray it all over the walls for the PowerWash Simulator Event Rerun 
Has someone made a full main base bp yet
like the total combination of good being produced
game won't let me spray jincao solution
oh he need the max rate on v1.2 production
is this efficient or overkill on the liquid cuprium?
This one, sorry lol
It's ehh
positive xirnite production?

try smth like this
your pipe can come from above the depot buses to spin reactor and save more spaces
mines running 8 btw so shave 2 off the end
Extra 1 Forge you can do 12 Heavy Xin but not indefinitely
you can focus on just parts on cuprium or spread it to make yazhen a and c just like mine
keep what you have, and make stuff with the extra stuff
Liquid heavy is strictly cuprium bottle?
Oh this was a big question, so thank you for that.
spray drone is using ferrium bottle only
this is gonna be real fun
no can be any bottle like water I think
@sterile stratus just import in sheets, idk how to safely share it ๐ณ
is this good?
we got extra 60 cuprium ore, so make hetonite using those
then 4 forge, 3 make xiranite, 1 make heavy xira
Do i have to connect conduit manifolds from this piss puddle up until the main aic? I want to stop the production of syringe a and make hetonite comps intead but sc wuling needs sewage which i cant make without syringe a

There's a pond at the new map below in Marker Stone
make things that need piss in the new sub PAC
Are we getting more content in 2nd half of the patch?
if you have spaces find some spare bottles and cycle them into bottles into depot
Im not talking about the one next to the sub aic
I need piss puddle in the main aic on wuling city
yeah thats the nearest
So the sewage from hetonite gets connected to my sc wuling battery
thanks a lot!
make your hetonite in sub pac really, it will safe you pain
Selling all of the heavy xiranite to the new location?
his plan is to paint wuling city with yellow pipeline

yeah if you lacking stuff to sell
I canโt because we dont have enough cuprium im trying to save sum hetonite comps
Aight i forgot there isnt a limit to the pipes or there is one idk
The Silk Road of Wuling, and its full of acid
i did it fine, what even is the problem with not enough cuprium tho? mine run at 0.75 of max speed
once I upgrade the prosparity level of the new area, I unlock new things to sell right?
It's better to use Conduits, but you can bypass pipe limit using logistics (pipe control port, bridge, etc)
lv2 only add sc bat
according here, you should still have 11 xiranite spare
1 forge worth of xiranite is basically meant to clog your xiranite
or have it sent to the heavy xira
not worth it for the extra power use
if i change it between heavy and normal xiranite prod on that one forge of sky, it should be okay yeah? more like do we even have solution for this?
can you sell the extra 150 power
Imagine the 7th normal forge is for bumper rich

if only forges act like crucibles
need auto pick poo for that
#aic-factory message
this is the best we got so far, manual movement of forge
auto-switch is too complex
GIVE US AUTOMATED BURDEN DUNG FARM LOWLIGHT
i see... yeah I'm also doing that
i think you just didnt account for inert helping raise the heavy rate a bit
I'm using inert fully for heavy xiranite
so... the 7th forge is kinda useless
what do we think chat
not the raw ferrium 
oh right fuck
OKAY OKAY WAIT
you have 20 xiranite spare, that's actually 10/7 heavy xir worth or 1.42 not .625
what a tough crowd smh
I don't think that is possible. my xiranite didn't even increase on my depot. it's 210/min xiranite usage and yield
What should I meta now that I no longer need to produce HC v4 batts
Cos Iโm doing pipe bombs rn
that's what the calc says the ratio of xir to heavy, i trust it
it reminds me of my impending doom for college
i trust the game graph more?
oh ffs i lost my pipe
chen stole it for her pipe bomb
shredding
you can't really put the forge in alternating mode without loss in downtime
so how can you show it properly in aic report?
Anyone rmb if you need 10 or 5 packed refined origocrust per xiranite comp?
it's not alternating. and the graph is straight line
beautiful hetonites...
(Refined) Ferrium for Yazhen Syringe C
we just discussed the forge needs to work 2 jobs to convert the spare xiranite
i change it once per day. just like what you say before. is at xiranite and xiranite only production, tommorrow i will change to full heavy xiranite
petition for forges to act like crucibles
That's fair I do have 7.5 surplus alr anyway

question the math, not me
i trust the game depot and graph more, than math that might just be calculated wrong
see, the values are right
you are changing your aic report when you switch production
you need to account for the average of that
forgot to turn off crucible?
for what I'm doing now, it's not. I have 0/min heavy xiranite. heavy xir that is for tommorow
i should be good... right?
everything the calc is for is average, not your current aic report, those are different
tommorow it's should be 240/min usage and 180/min yield
so i should be at 60/min deficit with heavy xiranite tommorow
no xiranite excess
bubble noooo 
dense ori is already limited by meta which is 25/min
so the only thing i need to worry is the sewage
i predict a clog still, come back when it happen
which clog tho
mb
i do have water treatment
inert effluent can be used instead if being dumped with dumping that cost 50 power
the purifier unit
ngl the items jumping around the extended crucible is somewhat satisfying to watch lol
uh
Won't the Crucible have a Sewage deficit?
xiranite and sewage cannot go at full rate like that
won't, i think
will it clog when xircon 50, xircon eff 50?
25 meta dense ori means 25/4 xircon
ratio
then just calc the rest and i can see i have enough sewage
let's just wait and bet 
and if the cruc is filled with sewage the rest will go to water treatment
I think the xircon production will decrease soon
Anyone have a cryston component blueprint?
i bet my loan
Imma just meta 300 packed crust so my batt line no longer staggers
feels like i'm missing something but nevermind
Cos Im building up a lil too much xircon for my liking
dang, no one has ever uttered 'cryston' near a 'blueprint' before than this...
its been explained many times here those system cannot work at full liquid xiranite speed
but experience is the better teacher
thats how it supposed to look
hmm... does anyone have a setup for cryston comps? even #1461542035617091681 doesn't have them
I did search #1461542035617091681 before, so I was hoping this isn't the case. :(
there we go...
I just wanna get some decent lvl 60 gear before I head into Wuling.
you don't get the free 600 from mail?
Hmmmmmm
EFO01eAoi0uUU142oAi8 
@terse zodiac
check talospioneer
i check discord tags first for region
it's not for you 
Both Asia, but I can copy from looking at it. XD
Well, he was asking for me.

I'm still scared transitioning from a 6 crucible reactor to a 4 reactor
what rate did you set the sewage at?
actually, this should be right. i trust my calculation... i think
1 refine
1 refine is 30/min right
i'll delete 1k sc battery if it doesnt clog
then i should be ok...
extra line that will help no clog
cruc should be eating 25/8 sew per min
just copy how i did it, i wouldnt share it if i haven't optimized the layout ๐ญ
idc the clog i just need battery
you could... seperate the whole ferrium shredder from this setup
Feels like admitting defeat
Im no loser
I accept beauty than defeat
how tight you need?
look at my cuperium setup
that's still a hack, that should be connected to the hetonite too
or share the same shredder
yippee
"just in case" xircon line
its needs the pipes to go over buildings
i request for wifi pipes :3
it's not even complete yet
, also that water requires converger prio
a 1x1 wifi pipe
lol, you will have a lot of extra xircon later, can turn off that later when stocked up
true... actually why turning off tho
1k energy cost
imagine, for balance, a 1x3 conduit
because 68k xircon?
the talos shall know pain
still waiting for the ability to connect conduit pipes / relay towers via top down view....
a little unstable but eh, nevermind
okay finished product
oh ffs the xiranite belt
ooh nice what's this
Was anyone able to get all 7 Xiranite to fit inside the Sky King Flats plot?
i took this and made it aesthetic i guess
idk xpanded cruc needs battery 
I like the design where the sewage pipes go over the depot buses
cuz it looks tuff or
Yes
Wish we could put logistics inside or at the top of it tho
too op
What's the best turret layout for energy alluviums?
i prefer mortars
using bat and you can lay out it better
oh my god bruh im doing the sewage wrong
lol
I just want to say
AIC in Valley IV, so easy
AIC in Wuling
every second is just more suffering
Devs, can we please get more cuprium
is this for hetonite or smth
its for xircon
you know reactor can only output 1 item for belt right....
I dont think any of us even know what each reactor is meant to do in that
Just rmb 4 ECruci for 12SC batt n u golden
are you sure you didn't drop it? 
Do you guys produce fast enough to drain all bills from both outposts? Or use heavy xiranite to trade also? Cuz i have a feeling its somewhat +-equal even with battery saving
Surplus is fine at best combinations
like 5k+ iirc
?
Dont u need like 8 reactor crucibles
if you produce less than 2/min comp, you should still be okay as long as you make everything with the ores and forge
actually im using 10
Nope just 4 enhanced
great... new name, enhanced extended expanded
how do i dispose extra acid...
fluid supply unit
use priority converger to send it back to crucible
8th forge dynamic production (BETA)
How and wow
some of yall are getting way too advanced
slow down, not all of us are engineering students
can it survive offline or not is the question
Looks like at worse it'll do the classic slowdown shenanigans
it can, its not based on converger-splitter. also its not 100% efficient, i still waste 5/min of inert to treatment
But the system seems to check for the correct amounts when looping
QUICK MOVE๐ฅ
wtf show us how
Tbf what can u do with 10/min inert and no xiranite excess
16 forges when, oh wait, kek
I'm still thinking...
we might get more from the upcoming 2nd new map of 1.2 in may 14
We copium in cuprium for now 
chat what should i do with excess water from heavy xinarite production?
dump it
drink it
hint. you need 4 small or 2 large reactors ideally
Plug it to a refinery or just dump it in the pool
dump it or close loop it to sky forge
what is close loop
Its either dump or plug into other that needs water
I'm already doing 4 small so I'm experimenting with the larger one
make that water output from purification unit to another facility that use water, like xiranite
There are a few types of 0 sanity endfield players:
- Bugfinders who sisyphus to find a way to fly and put ziplines in the most diabolical space posible
- The normie who use outpost for plantloop and fluids and use main PAC for main production line
- The gays who put every production lines in main PAC to the point where the ore mining is on life support and the Outpost area is only used to make Bad Apple animation
- That one guy who spent their entire month in their home garage just to make a Damascus looking
knifeteacup
one's waste is another's supply kinda thing
Im the second
just setting this up tonight for me already feels like a big accomplishment
and then I come here and see actual damn engineering
i dont understand the 4th bullet
and why would building everything in main be threatening to ore mining
probably infrastructure limit
time to bottle and separate acids like a madman
not even gonna bother making Hetonite
no more experiments
wat can you even do with Hetonite other than make gear
you halved your heavy xira yield?
use hetonite comps to complete gear setโ
use hetonite comps for artificingโ
i did that to 2 cuprium production but it isnt enough
did u split the water from purif unit?
yes
well, dont, each cuprium need 1 water line
and purif only supply 1
dont split purif water output to 2 cuprium

Theres the Chinese guy that spent like a lotta time with pottery for a chubby lung teacup just to break it at the end
i have 7 forges producing Xiranite
2 to Heavy Xiranite
1 to Cuprium component
4 to SC
did you see the 3/min yield?
i just dump the water then xd
yes, you need 3 forges to make heavy Xiranite
im only using two
so production is halved
nvm, i just wanna say that his factory is clogged, but not my business anyway
priority converge it too
Inert?
I Dont get any of this
it makes me sad seeing these suggestions to dump acid/water with supply unit, when there's an easier way ๐ฅ
yeah, strange way
The dark green liquid you get from making sc battery, you can put them into purification unit to turn them into light green liquid and use that to make heavy xiranite
oh my god... right, forgot about the damn purification unit
#aic-factory message
it's called converger priority
guess it's time to reconstruct this monstrosity
4 inert (waste from making xircon effluent) can be made to 1 xircon effluent
nah i think i got it
no need to think hard about it, just use pipe converger and done
this is mental illness
one's waste is another's supply XD
i will use it on my yahzen syringe production instead
have you calculated how much extra production eats into your batteries cost? (in comparison with how much you get out of it)
dont 
errr, wouldnt that mean you'd need 4 sources of inert to make one effluent
Hmm i always thought they just simply prio the stuff coing from the 2 sides but i guess i was wrong
yes which u would have anyway to make 2 SC battery lines
my 1st time
so instead of wasting it, we recycle it
it's really good
Chat what the name of oscillating site stuff name
guess it's time to move it
only 150w difference in power cost between SC and LC
and you get 1k power gain
Just move the heavy to your main aic
or use filling and separating unit
someone did that XD genius
thx
bottle the acid and separate
i hate the need for cuprium
with my current setup, I only have enough cuprium extra to make 1 hetonite part a minute
forget it
hetonite can wait until the dev gives us more cuprium
just produce them slowly with the extra 2 cuprium output we got from current map
Everyone I'm stuck at level 2 how can I fix this
thats normal
Simple one is fine
Is there any blurprints for the new region? Asia codes
more compact double xircon + 1 heavy xir.
Your belt is in wrong place.. its not even touching the building
Oh is it obvious answers time
The conduit is blocking the way
Its a miniaturization problem
What
How much max hetonite/min right now?
Im trying to fit everything in 12x18
Im not asking for basic stuff like how to connect 2 facilities
can i sell SC batteries here in max upgrade?
Yes
Cardiac arrest
do you all keep hetonite raw or immediately fit into parts?
i dont think you can get a belt from unloaders to top with that setup so you definitely need to rotate some building if you want to keep that width
but really
somehow it work
if you present a completely broken build and ask for help then first answer is to look for simple problems you might have overlooked
cant tell how advanced you are from this
at least present a working build and ask for optimization tricks..
thats scary and not at the same time
That is not how problems strictly work
Would you rather i send you a 50x50 design of this that is technically working but defeats the purpose
when making everything in one factory be like 
like
Implanning on making 13.25 SC battery, 22.5 Hetonite and 6 Heavy Xiranite. But how much of each of them will i make if i make .5 of each component? My max resources is 530 orignium, 90 ferrium and 180 cuprium. I will take orignium from battery production, xiranite from Heavy xiranite production, and hetonite + cuprium from hetonite production.
you could try to build this in enka so its more obvious what goes where too
its hard to tell with game's gui
Iโm just randomly changing pipe until it work
i got no clue what am i doing
not sure where the xiranite is supposed to be in this
but at very least i dont think you can do it without moving the packager to right and putting pipe over belt
there is just not enough space to the left to fit it
is this a bridge or merger too
Bridge
I just realized that pic is somehow really outdated
That was about 1 hr ago, the pipe isnt even there anymore
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whats u guys max production rate for the new gear?
yeah, i dont think you can go anywhere from this ๐ค
you would need to rotate the packager i think
how do i tackle this problem chat
lower planting unit by a grid and so does your belt
hmm
My factory is a huge mess right now
merging like how
i mean
you tring to pass belt on liquid splitter
just move planter lower
you have some sort of pipe thing coliding with the belt
merger or splitter, cant tell
move it to the left by two blocks
and it should be fine
its pipe bridge
yeah it doesnt matter
just move planter lower so u can pass belt below pipe
i will do this if my problem not resolved xd
to visualize the pipe bridge
you can even move it only one to left if you change the belt shape
well yeah, but now your planter is too high and you cant supply it anymore
it used to be lower so there was space on your earlier screenshot
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ok so i went online today and was apparently out of power, the problem is that i can not see at all where hte problem lies within my power, i see no clog, nor a break or fautly production
wait this might be it
Might as well do this
i did this instead xd
anyone got any ideas?
this is what i meant
Uhhh how's your output?
there is a tiny tiny amount of time where the packing unit has 4 xircon and not 5 and it not making anything i am just noticing
How's the layout?
each belt output is 30/m?
it is a bit of a mess but
you could also try to move the xiranite unloader to be second from left and then have belt of xiranite go between refiner and packager (and move packager to right since now there is place there)
but whenver this will help with anything not sure
I am so confused. There is no whay I have 50 inlets put down in the stockage?
Like thats not even possible
inlet or pylons / whatever
afaik it counts all machines outside the AIC area
I had the same issue because I still had the tower defense setup I forgot to remove it
Looks fine to me, the issue might lies on the packaging unit output one said
anyone know of the proper ratios for the new components?
there is roughly one second where the machine is not making a battery
and i do not know why
every other cycle
it does not get 5 xircon in time
You should check the fluids then
the problem is i have a hard time telling if the xircon production is not making it as often as possible since it has no progress bar
wait no i see it i think, there is a delay where
the sewage from the xircon production
is not yet in the machine making the effluent
Yea pipes
in wuling, what's the best optimal way to get good amount of power but also sufficient enough to do other tasks?
omg thank you
but the only other way to get sewage is to make more
atm. im just pushing originium as power source
is to increase cuprium production
and i can not do that since i am using a ton of it
for hetonite
any1 please?
If you could send full layout would be more helpful
well, you can make the lc or sc wuling batteries
is this count as 10/m
core aic does not fit in a screenshot
if you are just starting, use dijiang to transfer bunch of batteries from valley 4
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transfer like 10k and it will last you for a while
i could hop in a vc if you have time
Here's mine
Asia:
EFO01521403Ii1uE1eIoe
NA:
EFO0158OoaIeE3u92eIoe
tysm
Sure
am i doing it right?
now i just got not clue how to make a vc in this server
any blueprints to switch my originium ore power source to a better one in wuling?
What even is the stashes part
idk how to make belt 10/m 
Thats...something
Yea I don't know either
you can't make a vc
does the the new 1 hour power buffer effect the battery minmax thing at all?
Fuck my hetonite didn't grind overnight, that meant SOMETHING BROKE FUUU
un-fucking-fortunate
lebron james reportedly fed sewage into reactors
I just recently flushed my whole cuprerium from sewage clog
good luck, you can't do that
i already tried
he gonna manually do it in dijiang
may the dijiang be with you
is this all self contained for the sub pac?
listen, i don't account for stupidity
Yea, no upgrade needed
Only those 2 manual pipes
k found out the problem
forgot to power the rig that dumbed acid back to the pool so it clogged
i wish i could (easily) transfer sewage from my hetonite to my bettery production instead of voiding it
Facilities 
ah that really helps alot thanks, been trying to find one that isnt too intrusive on already established bases before the update (also cuz i had no time left irl to do it my self) so this one's very helpful
did you just get there and have nothing unlocked?
i have reached to like xiranite production
kinda restarting it whole atm
no outpost yet?
got all 3 AICs
if you have xiranite production, its quite easy to make LC batteries
I wish I can dump sewage into the acid pond
free treatment alternative
It beautiful i know
I like how tiny I made this..
Since we only got 6 culrprium outlets, I can only sacrifice two for one bottle and part for my yahzen production
Which leaves 50% working for my carbonite component
basically 50% and 50% working rn
My cuprium only for hetonite
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Isn't there only 6 outlets for culrpium? How do you have 8 dust outlets?
same
i guess i will drop like 4 forges for heavy xiranite next upgrade and burn it all then
absolutely haram
you only need 3 additonal forges atm..
Somethings not right actually, im losing dust
if you're NA/EU you can use this in an outpost for LC, just set all your pac ports to originium. EFO018930583601aUI73
Hmm, looks like can remove 2 and put outlet there
thanks
your sewage is clug
heavy xiranite uses like 90 xiranite / minute, so that xiranite would take like 11 hours to burn with 1 forge ๐ค
bring the plumber
but next upgrade i can just make 4 extra forges and burn it in two hours
without having to mess current build
2 additional forge for normal xira, 1 forge for heavy. Use the inert from the LC bats towards the purification unit to produce xircon effluent
How to build it here
i am now using half of the sewage from the hetonite production to subsidise this 1s delay in the sewage originating from the xiranite sewage going to the effluent. and it is an infinite loop of bottles cause i am constantly re-using them
yeah, but, to burn xiranite i need to make batteries and to make batteries i need originium that i dont have :/
this already burns considerably more originum even with the bonus from transfering the cubes
why not make 2 cuprium on the same place as your battery?
how do you have originium you don't have 
i mean
making another 2 would drag cuptrium from the hetonite
i need much more originium than i can mine
you're making 3 SC!?
ye\
8 dense originium for 2 sc battery maker?
leaving that 2nd double conduit for future cuprium dust.... hopefully

