#aic-factory
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Wat
you always could
What ?
even in V4
Since time immemorial
i think its island wall in essences farm thats making it 512
What ?
AIC and PAC are movable and rotatable
WAIT so you are telling me that the crucible just doesn't give clog on +30/min items in/out? ooh imma be breaking thigns

Search the phrase up
Wait what is the difference between AIC and PAC
I forgor
...
mines ugly mobile so many pic but here still not capped
what
ahh. no hetonite. thats why power low
AIC is the main big thing you orbital strike
PAC is outpost thing you spawn in lame way
as long as all things work fine.... ugly or not is not important.
ya since same stock gain than heto anyway
it's not same tho,,,,
If I leave my 240/s unit run it will auto modulate back to 180 once I ran out right?
sometimes i prefer they hide the conduit in map view
Can I get visual 🐧
you can draw some art
I have
Questions
?
What power source are you using to get 6k power ?
pwm in 1.2 smh
...... i believe i saw someone posted a picture of zipline forming pentagram to summon demon or demonic ritual before pulling....
6 more? no way!
was heto 4.5 +1.5 old potion? vs 9 + 3 old potion or can do the 13 bats but thats to much power for me lel
2x SC bats
3.2k each
yes, there was
Dam
oh, that exists...
anyway 
haven't touch zone 5 and 6.... too busy with quest and factory
yeah i didn't even touch the quest lol
i'm continuously questioning myself why i'm consuming too much power
remind me im done with that lol without entering the new map
Guys are purple components even useful after clearing the TRIAGGELOS ?
i have to reach 100k before another nice character getting released
Or should I shift to blue and white components?
...
The radar thingy
That you make in factory
if dont want double fixing can just go 3 rigs per pump that should lessen your power abit while rest its etither some formula of stuff you make got some error or towers
pretty much you can ignore it
can go straight to xiranite component at wuling.
if you focus on storyline or speed run story
just craft a few valley4 components, the real usable components are in wuling, which is xiranite components
what
what should be the general point for factories? main for core materials, each sub aic for subproducts?
And where is Wuling
just go straight green comp on wuling you can burst story mission via brute force in valley
Wuling comes after we close the rift ?
it is new region after v4, yes after closing rift at the mountain
O
WuAOU 🐧
wish they make valley have weekly lmd or mats sigh its fully dead spot now
petition: let us select the belt under a pipe without having to stash the pipe
theres pipe icon at left
side of screen
click that
only appear if you do belt
wonder how hyperglyph will someday create a catch up mechanic for new players.
specially when 2 region limit offline calculation remain permanent while the game already at 3++ regions
tips to how to plan my factory and what each section should do?
they have it at v1
giving comp for new player
like we got free purple and white comp
i'll say that they give them like full 1-version expiring extra 1 region worth of offline computation
they might make free green later
just make it first then before you do next step try your best to compress that current setup
theres preview of how the process is in game free blueprint
even some JPs don't understand expanded crucible
https://vxtwitter.com/aka_no_ragunaru/status/2046249312112582889
this and that
2nd remember this math 30 item per belt 5 items per 10 second
-# never compressed anything and always was fine
are there any people who have 60/min xircon with 4 reactors? i wanna see
just a bigger crucible and eat more smh
very much me
reactor or expanded? I have 60min with 4 expanded
you have 2 crucibles in 1, that's how it works
different for each person.
some like procedural, some like straight from raw material to end product, some like painting the whole area with belts / pipes....
It's not exactly 2 in 1
actually...
expanded yes pls

i have a very unoptimized example but it sort of works
touhou XD apple
too hard to comprehend, no reason to
give me a minute
at least better than me using 5.9kw 🥀
It could be worse lol
This is actually more power than I'm using, but the aic doesn't store enough power to tune the pwm down more
patpat you can fix it slowly in your free time

you can look in other area like sandleaf if there to much sand leaf you making than what you needed that reduce power by alot
yes i turned them off
did any1 tried doing this ?
isn't everyone doing that
yea it was the most reasonable thing to do
rip did you use old pump than new pump? since those not needed than for acid
i literally just sent it lmaoo
no...
could you tell me what you did after you merged the 1 inert xircon eff into purification unit ?
this
this expanded crucible is handling 2 processes at the same time: mixing cuprium dust and acid to make cuprium solution, and mixing hetonite solution and ferrium powder to make hetonite and sewage. you have 2 crucibles in the space of 1. please ignore how terrible this system is, this is an explanation on the expanded crucible
guess i'll try figure that out later gotta do abberant
you sent it into forge of the sky ?
just one more question, there are 2 inputs in purification unit wo you merged 2 x iner xircon eff into one pipe twice and sent it to purification unit ?
oop reversed purification output
okay that's
that's a way more understandable explanation than all I've seen there today lmao
thank
tyvm. will study it now
no problem : )
everyone else goes turbocomplex 😭
what lol
yups merge it
though you have to set up what reactions you want manually, so that you don't accidentally mix things you weren't intending
devs wants us to lose 2 free placement limit by limiting the socket by 2 ahahah
mhm
this setup gives up 30 xircon/min ?
real equivalent
60
60
This is my 1.2 setup for the SC Batteries right now, its larger than the previous version of it but I get excess Xircon now incase its ever used for anything else in the future
dont mind the arrangement i really need to reduce my pylons for facility limit
my whole aic is using 3.11kw is that normal
le beauty...
7+1 self-sufficient forges, 2 SC lines with xircon and 4 copium
normal
mhm then the problem is somewhere else...
thats means rest of youe 2k from outside the aic
yeah
alot of towerssss
is the 4 water intake using 1 pump ?
or ziplines
i turned off everything in the tang2 outpost so that shouldn't be the case
do you use 2 forges for heavy xiranite or just 1?
imagine explaining this to a 1.0 newbie
does anyone have a factory simulator so that i can plan ahead without ruining everything in my factory? endfieldtools is kind of laggy
enkad
2 pumps, since you use 4 xiranites to produce liquid
90 ziplines in the whole wuling is that normal
easy stash?
thank you
that thing eats some to
thats op 550 power
this is weird
anyone know a blueprint set that has indivifdual component building as compact as possible without the extra combo s
i think i know why 🥀
gotta accept that can't remove my precious ziplines
welp, time to monkey wrench some heavy xiranite
i just modified this to have no hxira + cuprium refinement in mainpac#1494628329851064402
i envy pc consol gamer can view alot of good stuff ahahah
mhm
so it is 1 pump for 2 facilities, right ?
was wondering if 1 pump can work for 4 facilities
can
citrome can
yeah 1 pump produce 60/min of water
facilities use 30/min
wait ops 1 pump nope my mind was on pipeline
got a 1.1 version?
using manifolds can transport 4 units of water per second yeah?
actualy no need imma go finish 1.2 story
yes
now manifold acid from marker stone to main aic
sigh so 1.3 i have to switch all my solo inletto double

what might be the cause of this clog? i got this like every 2 days after logging in.
show layout
it cannot produce xircon coz ur sewage is full, also showing the layout is needed
might be incorrect ratios of input output
gah somebody fokked my wuling delivery
You need 3 crucibles (2 extended, 1 regular) per SC Bat line in order to prevent the recipe conflicts/clogging
people really do love doing half xircons
just 2 extended already is clog-less
gusy the machines proitize the output before it could even use the mats inside?
2 extended can’t self sustain the required amount of sewage (its 2 required, 1 made, 60/m and 30/m accordingly)
Yes, if it can output 100%
you have 2 fixes.
either slow down the xiranite/ ferrium belt [either or is fine really] because your sc wuling battery line isn't moving. you don't have enough dense originium ores from transfers.
make a reactor crucible and send xircon + shredded ferrium there and finally the output xircon into your component
it can
you might just havent built it yet
Whats the inputs for extended crucible then
Fluid wise
use backfeed version for xircon production
this is 4x half effluent version, it sucks because you need to start the system with zero sewage
and zero refinement unit running
what happened is you let your refinement run and accumulate sewage in the conduit
your crucibles can only handle 0.25 sewage/s
but it took a 0.5/s for too long and caused the clog
I am using that, it can.
using 2 but require you to KICKSTART sewage
1 extended - water + gunk.
2n extended - inert + water.

actually no need kickstart
both want xiranite input [pass through one and keep the other].
2nd extended gets the ferrium
xircon effluent and ferrium reacts to create the first sewage needed
im running this since day 1 of 1.2 and havent failed me with 60/min xircon
So its 4 extended per 2 lines
I wasn’t talking about that - my point is 2 extended cant do 1 line on their own.
a line of what
6/m SC
the point is 2 is for 30/m xircon
but you are talking about 3 crucibles for an SC
im using 4 for 12/min
ah. yes. it's 6/m sc for 2 extendeds, down from 4 [5?] crucibles.
down from 5 in 1.1
so many misinformation here, same shit i had to deal with explaining backfeed is reliable back then
people just assume things without testing
hey does anyone know why/when to use the new manifold fluid output facilities?
yea thats why some ppl that probably copy BP and you know the rest
i dont have the issue coz i never copy BP
Its only 12 for 4, you cant make an independent 6 for 2
I used it to bring 4 lines of acide [2 lines combined each] from far south to main pac
you can use 2 for 6/min as independent
🤔
you can, actually.
wtf are u thinking
I see, ty all for the inputs, I guess it's time for me to change the layout 
I need to know what you're thinking because I don't believe I'm following your chain of thought.
its literally just 6/min doubled
dood is saying 12 sc with 4 crucible possible
but 6 sc with 2 isnt possible
kekkkk

Do you guys have a graph for that expanded crucible for xircon?
my 2 sets are independent from each other, they just worked together for heavy xir
like a full graph with explanation
heavy xira.
misinfo spotted smh
My attempt left me scared
lmao
pls no ._.
you mean my pre-1.2 cursed concept?? lmaooo
whats that?
i cooked lmaoo
1:1 giga copege
ONLY THE FUCKING RATIO IS SHIT
wait, how do you removed UI elements
Heavy heavy
1.3
jumbo xiranite
question, how does sewage not clog?

again, hg lied to us 
it;s not my fault i swear
I somehow managed to screenshot mid UI change
Sandxircon powder
it creates 30/min sewage after xircon, and xiranites consume it to create effluent at the exact amount 30/min
so its balanced
i dunno why you have 4
not you man xD, I'm talking to his cursed 1 Reactor
you can make xiranite with sewage?
bro you are correct with 4 red to 1 yellow 1 orange, i actually expected inert to have byproduct but WTF the water never appeared
xiranite + sewage = effluent + inert
oh wait, me dum dum
i have a note that proves 1 crucible to 15/min xircon does work
xircon have sewage byproduct you make it through there
I'm dumb as hell
I think I gotta make it by steps to understand it 
I'll try it
alright, for some reason I did calc the amount of required fluid outputs at 3
so yeah, 2 ext is alright, my bad
Every input and output within the reactor every 2 secs
1. 1 xira,1 water
2. 1 xira,1 water, 1 lx, 1 s
3. 1x,1w, 1lx, 1xe,1ixe
4. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 1s, 1xe
5. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 2xe, 1ixe
6. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 1xc, 2s
7. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 1s, 1xe, 1ixe
8. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 1s, 2xe, 1ixe
9. 1x, 1w, 2lx, 1xc,1s, 1xe,1ixe
10. 1x,1w, 2lx, 1s, 2xe,1ixe
Loops back to seq9


son 🥀 🥀 🥀
sequence 8 and 10 are the same so yeah in theory it shouldnt clog
i aint readin all at
Sir when r y making blueprints convertible from screenshots to planner
new periodic table is out 
imagine one day hypergryph demand production line from v4 until latest area via meta transfer.
and somehow in the middle demand back feed
hell nah
this is basically what i was sharing earlier, a step by step analysis
we do it in code debugging a lot
you know what
it's so cursed 
i think i should make a solo reactor making xircon because i have alot of excess
i wanna experience that clogging too
cause i cant think of a reason why it clogs
other than the sewage
but splitting sewage is the solution for that tho. unless its more than just the sewage
its always cursed sewage
imma make a planner first
🥀
Or just making it easy to copy whatever into planner so playing around doesn’t mess with yields
looking nice
i just explained it, (max it can use 0.25 sewage/s, max it can receive 0.5/s, of course it's gonna clog, no room for the xircon to produce sewage

just import blueprint no
bp friendly = no conduit
Is that already doable even?
was doable a month ago at this point kekw
and the user need to know which conduit connect to which one
i mean with random unconnected pipes thats not any better
bp friendly = max conduit 1
this is why im still against conduit, unless it can preserve connections if they're all in the same bp
the dramatic music i cant lmfao
i'm listening to the ost ok
Oh I missed this feature lmao. Beta user
time to slow down loading time and add loading tips
maybe I should give up on my miles of belts and figure out how to 7 forge outpost.... having the random one outside for heavy xira feels so wrong
why? it slots in nicely into the 4forge purifier
just 8 forge main smh
smh


stop using that the reactors are broken beyond repair there
i'm running a 7forge sub with a giant hole in it
because there's supposed to be 3 more
i cant, i want the scribbled reactor
do you have ublock
whats that
adblocking extension
i was going to suggest a custom rule to replace the spritesheet 

it took me too long to realize there's color indicator for the crucible output in the UI
bro i refreshed it
you should install ublock tho
its still the same
how are you surviving without adblocker
i always just guess and switch if i got it wrong
same lmao
are you on beta or main
i dunno what that means
noway

yeah im on beta
that's the wrong one
are conduit manifolds the same thing as conduits+splitters?
it's just a tiny colored strip who knew that's what it meant 😭
nah manifold is just 2 conduits
i should have known gacha players don't read shaking my smh
SMH MY HEAD
just redirect them to main 
ok tk god
ok stupid question but whats the difference between protocal stash and depot unloader ?
@marble yarrow so i either need 2 normal crucible or overflow valve again for 1.25 sc/min huh
they're directly opposite
unloader grabs from the depot, protocol stash stashes into the depot
if you turn it off, it also acts like a dumb box that can passthrough items
I meant depot loader 
Holy moly, just realized that fang yi's weapon essence is valley 4 exclusive.
F*ck that, i don't care. Since the game does not punish me to not minmax. I will wait till new region avellium release instead
like both take belt items into depot right
then no particular difference, except depot loader doesn't use power and stash does
however don't use 3 holes for different items
if depot of one item is clogged it won't bring in the other item
but depot one needs to be next to the bridge thingy
yep
oh, 1/3 sewage works, that's why someone was asking for that huh
Time to bring Endfield special cannon from wuling acid and stuff to Valley
ey the colors are brighter
Maximum is 6 canons. Yet I don't have its engraved ticket
what happened?
i think the emote needs an offset
probably sewage clogged

who is that?
Happen to me once. I hate that. Re-place the machine fix the clog.

i just add a 1-2 cell belt hanging off of the second port, assign it to sewage, then pick up the machine and place it back down
easy flush
I guess it's because cuprium max in warehouse.
i dont understand wheres the cuprium powder gain there
then there would be 0 sewage not 50
when am I getting the giant statue guys
10M wuling bills
where
I've seen ppl with that thing, it's not really that big
Yeah. Something funny happen there. Machinery is suck in maintenance. Happen in real life too
howw
share link
?
dies of sewage

oh w8 ill send the updated version

focus on the cuprium
have anyone found solution to make heavy xiranite and xiranite in one forge of sky?
that work on offline?
? you cannot
yep
you can?
but
also chat
it has horrendous piping but yes
what are my production targets for this patch?
you would need to alternate and stagger like a madman
can anyone help me with my reactor crucible T^T
in theory yes, in practice ....
alternate every 10 secs
everything start with theory
whats the benefit
why ts not outputting
bro the recipes are locked
seems like that
but back to my question
sadly i dont have too much time this month
so what are my production targets
my brain almost exploded trying to line up 30 carbon
tyvm i will go blow up balloon men
What are the priorities of each site for the Splitters and Convergers?
12/min sc battery
6/min heavy xira
6/min normal xira
4.5/min heto parts
with left over 0.75/min ferrium ore
@marble yarrow
this should just work. whyyy 
sounds about right
is that enough to eat all the bills? no medicine this patch?
wtf is this piping
Is this set up right? I want the bottom line going in to have priority over the Conduit whenever possible
it's priority converger, ignore the right angle
producing water?
if you use 1/s sewage, just split it 2x then 3x
why use both pipes + a converger when you can just use 1 output?
someone make the 1 sky forge for heavy xiran and xiran please
you can reduce hetonite parts to make yazhen a but you still get the same stocbills. in my case i did everything

no wtf why
I could do that, I just had it setup that way already, the bottom line is the output Acid from the Purifier though
i split it in 3, then 2, same thing
no i mean this
wdym why, because that is the most optimal solution to use that 1 extra sky forge
bro just throw it back to the pool
did you use extra sewage from the hetonite sewage as well?
and spend 10w when i could do it for free? 
you are not pumping acid from anywhere
Actually I just realised the top 2 arent getting enough Acid
no, that's 4 refiners worth only
so i should only be getting 10/s
but i seem to be getting more than that
manifold is a fucking lie
either use pumps or pump into manifold inlet
although
wheres the acid pool
there's something else wrong
WTF?
it's underground trust
you should split it right, just think like the speed got decreased by half everytime you split by 2
it is your fault using 1 pipe to bring 4/s sewage
im lazy, it's the game's fault for not obeying logic
bro i sent you the updated version of that

Should I put the Converger before the Final Splitter or the 2nd Splitter?
yanzhen needs cuprium tho?
yeah hikarin forgot to input it
so we operating at a loss?
oh right
let me correct it 
Alright I figured it out
nothing should change about the income though
yup
red dot is splitter
how to connect the conduits
go up abit, input from the middle
also forgot the xira?
I see, does the Splitters forward output have no slowdown, only the left and right?
used it on comps
if you split by 3, it will slow down by 3rd of its speed.
split by 2 it will slow down by half.
basically normal math 1/3 and 1/2
did you collecting acid?
Im making Cuprium Solution into Hetonite Solution into its byproducts
I just realized my factory designed like pump is 1/s instead 2/s and I am too lazy to fix it
its so beautiful
sadly we need to kill the factory in less than a month
i meant those fluid tank
and even remake it for the event
making Syringe C is deficit power wise 
That was my temporary solution for the Acid out of the Purifier from the night I set this factory up
nah, that only thing that will be added is more cuprium and +4 forges
f energy🥀 im aready using 2 sc per min anyways
Perlica, stash it
is 12/min SC batt and 3/min hetonite component a good stats?
its a decent start, but that gives you left over copper to work with
(oh im assuming they mean parts)
yeah you cant make 3/min heto comp without over using cuprium
2.25/min max heto comp u can achieve
so you're changing it now?
im just making 0.75 rn cause its that expensive
Yeah
yea
All that for just one comp per minute lol
you can do 13.25/min SC with meta transfer, if you want min max. but yeah 12/min good enough
oh it's actually working, i think something just broke with the the priority when i logged off
i just forced priority on both input instead
I wish we had enough capacity to make 6/min Heto Comp and have enough to make 1 other Cuprium Product too
I suppose we don’t need that much heto comp
nephew making batteeries now
Each relic is 50 comp so its going to be a decent amount that we need
Especially when we need other comps for artificing
does priority work like that with pipe? i thought that only for belt
yes
I'll probably cutoff the Hetonite Comp Production when I hit 30 or 40k of them
you won't use that much
wait, if 2 forges can supply one forge for heavy xiranite, what's the purpose of the 1 remaining forge?
25k is so expensive
go vc #1327315403877253200
ah i see how it doesnt clog compare to usual setup, my xiranite is limited to 10/s too, so it can't produce liquid xiranite faster than what's it rated
so in this rare case, it's okay to clog the sewage
do you guys take what you can get or hold out for the 110k+ juicers
i just take what i can....unless you wanna press the refresh button more than 200++
you guys doing delivery?
there is 3 choices for you:
- lazy choices: just let xiranite cap on your depot
- change it between heavy and normal xiranite per day, that way you can use those excess xiranite on heavy xiranite
- make 1 sky forge interchange between making xiranite and heavy xiranite (i haven't seen anyone success in doing this)
good job
delivery is a good source of additional income....sad that its hard to get though.
fangyi bankrupted me, so she will be doing my deliveries for a while to pay her debts
119k unless it's been 5+ mins
but since 1.2 launch I haven't refreshed for that long fsr, 3x 119k everyday
No
valley 4 delivery
on foot
she do be going fast with those lightning dash though. 
I hold out if I have time
Not as fast as pog
I do my part putting up my Delivery for order, theres not enough to go around though
the challenge is on!
someone need to test with both side by side with video recordings
imagine we can make bumper rich
put it up, gets done within 3 mins.
its as if you did it on your own.
trully express delivery services.

how O.O???
i might have excess too....but well, still getting consistent 3 per min, guess i will let it be for now.
my head cannot comprehend large scale systems that is supported by fragile columns
sandleaf being the fragile columns
i choose 1) but selling at outpost instead
i have excess sandleaf powder
Oh I think I see what happened, I re did the Pipes for the Purification Unit and it built up slightly in the Crucibles but now that the Pipes are better the Purification Unit is at 50 and the bottom Crucible has 10 solution in it at all times
AIC Report claims im making 120 and using 120
that have became concrete paste 
if only I have fangyi for cardiac
I'm selling it to the deliveries
cardiac arrest?
Apparently this tiny dip was enough to cause a permanent excess in the system
cardiac remedial center
try guess what I'm doing looking at my xiranite usage
the only cardiac fangyi gives, is make you go all the way to 120 for her on her rolls.
or popping out early within 20 rolls
never both :v.
(mine came at 120 btw....with lifeng drop along the way.)
Are you going all in on Heavy Xiranite
I tried to pull for fangyi, got Tangtang instead
as you can i only have that at 6/min. wrong guess 
so guys, correct me if I am wrong, but we produce a little bit more of the LC batteries than we need for 1 thermal bank if we transfer originium cubes from Valley IV, right?
extra batts?
You doing a slow making of lc wuling battery?
gimme.
far better than my lifeng :v.
i need her for my yvonne :v.
I'm doing 13.25/min sc. but that doesn't eat 210/min xiran. so wrong guess
hello brother, I'm in the same boat! I don't mid thouugh, my Yvonne is happy about SoupSoup
yeah there would've been like an extra 17ish xira unused
gimme automated burdenbeast dung farm man, you're gonna make me less rich from selling base xirenite
liquid? 
i request for more mineral nodes instate of the measely 2 nodes + 2 minerals each for the past 2 areas =.=.....
its not even 2 high purity node either.
congrats you are correct 
Man I havent even setup the farms with the sprinklers at all yet
but why
storing effluent in bottle. dunno why i do this
okay good answer
this

Another me, I also need to store Effluent and Inert Effluent
where does effluent come from 
here full pic
7+2
personally making heavy xiranite liquid bottles atm.....need about 5-6K just in case before i stop production :v.
Dear god, Ive never had a Factory that full before
yeah same, will need to do that
9 
Is this making any Heavy Xiranite Liquid
ik what to do with the extra forge now
component production
direct sale to outpost
LC battery production
very story lore accurate.
your complete disregard of aesthetics still baffles me but fair enough

it was more so that I accidentally had things set to LC battery here instead of SC
I do half a line of cuprium components and a little bit of LC batteries for power
heres another
fit more stuff > aesthetics
my nemesis
is it 3 buck capsules + 2 battries?
Are you negative on Ferrium with this, I know V4 had a lot though
yes
idk what i've done in Wuling city but it's beautiful
I made a similar setup
at least...we don't get stuck with 180 ores at lvl 12 RDM =.=.....
i don't think ferrium was that low on the last map midway.
Do you have this thing Blueprinted, its nuts
missing 1 belt and it is zzz
we dont even have 9 forges yet
so my cope idea is once I hit 68k xiranites AGAIN, I'm changing the forge to make heavy xiranite and halt just xiranite production.
the 7+0 and 7+1 bps are here tho, its a very similar layout
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494923383408820404
i just make component non stop now
wonder, do they brave enough to punish me because not doing valley4 factory? gotta see it when CC release.
CC?
my stupid ass sewage supply line
nah valley is useless
contengency contract. hur hur hard content
just do standard clear reward
What is more likely, new Cuprium deposits at the new area of May14, or the current Low purity extractors becoming high purity? (240/m)
fangyi's weapon essense is valley 4 exclusive
both 
both are wrong
what's likely is the death of the all in one base depending on what new stuff we get next expansion
unless rdm lv13+ exist
they do
It does
piss pipe
that's 'sewage'?
how much facility limit left for you?
actually sewage?
my long pipes actually doesnt count for facility limit
WTF
they are of different limit
for an all in one, I have 9 facilities leftover to use. big surprise
where do I play this endfield
on main pac i meant, after doing the heto there
I need to know how he got up there
Yeah where do we sign in for creative/dev mode
ohh, im at around 500, just a few extra left for 512/512
next update need to move something out...
im also pwm-ing my HC battery so it takes also fac limit
Hi. Where can I get this calculation google table?
why is someone here suspected by discord
that battery making machine at the bottom right corner is working at 25%, you know that, right?
me?
of course, its just using the 25/min dense originium meta transfer
why would i not know that
omg
naw.
wait I just realized I am underprducing, do I need 4 reactor crucibles for every purifier????
who made max production wuling base? i need numbers of production
need to compare and check everything
why do you need that many materials to sell to outposts? we already generate more than the outposts need xD Unless is just hoarding stuff
yeah, it takes 4 lines of red liquid
yes
because i can? and thats what i want?
just hoarding then 👍
not a problem with that, just curious
do we not even have enough cuprium to produce 1 hetonite parts line at full efficiency?????
no. you need 240 for 100% hetonite
but there is hetonite on next map on May 14th
13.25/min SC batt
22.5/min Hetonite part.
other is changing depending on situation (heavy xiranite)
nope, no sense, just, make 1/min and chill
tested the 5/min splitter for preventing clogs. acrtually works. yey.
Why tf are they doing this to us. It's my biggest annoyance with the game so far
it's not maxed
0.75 max
22.5 hetonite is turned into 4.5 hetonite parts
yeep and that is for only 15/ min heto aka half usage of a crucible 
oh... right
knowing CC, you'll still get punished regardless of whether you built your factory and ops or not
not being able to even reach half is so annoying
how much fluid can we combine again in a single line? 2? 3?
AND IF WE WANT FULL PRODUCTION WE ARE STILL GONNA NEED MORE FERRIUM
you need 8 crucible to make a full heto line aka 30/min but we only have enough for 6 crucible
tbh you can just meta trasfer it for extra 25/ min equivalent and which you can manual transfer the rest of 5/min equivalent from dijang 
oh. Wdym i dont have enough of the excess ametthyst to make more purple bottles?
uhhhhhh time to siphon
my citrus production
boom
having to manual transfer thousands of ferrium every day would make me want to blow my brains out
WAIT YOU CANT UNLOAD THORNY YANZEN FROM PAC?
what's the point of automation when you can't automate it
developer induced inconvinience for player retention
fun fact grade c medicine sell for 10 cash and also use 5 bottle that which also cost 2 per bottle so we only sell for the packaging price and the compact at price of 150 extra electric 
yeah I don't get why they don't buff metastorage to just deliver 30/min
is there anything better?
making a more annoying daily grind doesn't give any benefit to the gameplay
the same reason genshin still doesn't have load out today
nearly tricked into caring
my inner minmaxer
instantly changed my mind
when i remembered
oh right
V4 Stocks
They're useless
you dont make 210 xiranite ?
-cuprium should be exactly 180/min
xiranite should be at least 180/min yield or 210/min
SC must be constant 12/min
Heavy Xiranite must be 6/min
why wont you use that 30 xiranite!!!!!!1
dont you see, we can minmax further
wdym
right in fact i manual transfer battery to use in wuling to be diged 
It supposed to be ok if i just want bare minimum of the risk to get all reward. Including trim medal.
you can produce 210 and still use it right? if you arent using 2 forges as heavy
?
2x2 Battery, 3 Heavy Xira
so we're actually left with a leftover xiranite machine
i have clock system on crucible
that gives you surplus xiranite
why?
i can use it for xira comp for now
but the real solution
is to stockpile comical amounts of purple bottles
because if I don't use it - sawage will be 50 in one moment and it will stuck
produce and stash xircon effluent till you overcap on bottles
so i made clock trick to make 1 sawage = 1 use
and then once you cap you run half speed heavy xiranite till your stashd liquid runs out
💀
and my numbers bugged
what? if you have surplus xiranite it doesn't affect anything though
you don't produce sewage from xiranite itself
chat rate my elaborate plan
What to do with extra xiranite forge:
- Hoard max amount of purple bottle and transfer to Wuling
- Develop 2 modes: Xiranite mode and Heavy Xiranite mode
- Xiranite mode:set up a Xiranite water -> Sewage setup (Sewage will be directly split from cuprium while sending the other half back to water treatment, that way, it'll never clog up even if it reaches max. Pack Xircon Effluent em em into purple bottles until it clogs from fulling the storage with purple bottles
- Heavy Xiranite mode unpack purple bottles run half speedn heavy xiranite until purple bottle stashed Xircon Effluent runs out.
- Cycle between modes by moving forge (and removing liquid/item in the machine
but u use it in crucible
TIL pipe limit is 128/128
that's why my crucibles use the sewage they produce, 1/1
BRO 3RD DAY I WOKE UP TO 0 POWAH IN WULING OMG
Then I found out it's the production line of the materials for my batteries 🥲 they were producing slow asf
i understood what u mean - u forgot to connect my forges to storage :P
gucci
wait why there is no names/icons
my doesn't work like this
I screenshotted if while opening blueprint menu
ayo actual hax
you can press M while in top down and screenshot fast enough before the map opens
because guess what? even if it uses 1 and produces 1, somehow, i still have 1.5 uses per 1 production
@pulsar willow and idk why
but it just doesn't sync or what
it's still at zero after 24+ hours in my case
why in the actual fuck does this look cleaner than what i made
I can share a blueprint if you want (and if you are on eu/na)
@marble yarrow i did my take on your diagram 
imagine if they don't add a timer for the battle itself but a timer for trim medal
like og CC where trim is getting risk 18 on first week
in my case, without clock - it will stop
basically we in the same concept. the "safer" one
can you currently make more hetonite parts than you use to make the component?
nope, only if you give the components less parts
alright thank you!
i feel like i'm gonna lose it a little am i the only one who does 50/50 Xircon on both of my crucible lol
@pulsar willow here is clock
damn this looks so clean I wanna delete my xircon and copy it now
wait, can you actually select to output 2 solids in expanded?
oh, i forgot that wasnt a thing, im so used to passthrough 
you can still route it to the side
EFO01o08aOE91o63OIieO (EU/NA)
yeah, small things
Yeah, it'll be happen. Likely. Because there is no reason they don't do that. The problem is, what they gonna choose? Catering on casual, or impress hardcore player?
the conduits need 90 water each, 30 residual water can be used elsewhere (I just dump it)
Anyone with a max hetonite part BP (asia) so I can expedite building the new towers?
there, fixed
sim is broken right now, so it shows as clog 
the best of both worlds would be that the timer would instead be tags by themselves
What sim do you use?
it looks really nice, but i'd like to see a stashless/conduit-less version 😭
guys i almost maxed xira
if i move 1 of sky forge that make xira to make heavy xira with 3 xira bus line how much this normal xira saving can hold ?
I think we have a surplus of energy and available space (I gave up on the idea of placing everything in main AIC)
you'll be eating through 5400 per hour (90/min)
so give or take 10h and a couple min

but i also do LC battery at 3 /min though 
then a bit sooner than that
so 7 hour ?
i also remove 30/min xira to make heavy xira though
what does your xira chart looks like now in terms of yield usage
8.9 hours

Fluid pump and acid pump get the same amount of liquid just one is for acid?
ok so 4 forges are for the 2x sc wuling batteries
1 more forge is for the heavy xiranite
the remaining are for xircon effluent then?
TIL that thermal banks are asymmetrical along one axis
you get a free efluent for 4 inert
you need 4 days to go from 0 to 58k xira, and 9 hours to burn 58k for heavy
you saw i found a way how to fix those pesky clogging version of xircon reactors?
yea ik that but should i use the other 3 forges for xircon effluent then?
you use 4 forge for 2 sc battery 3 forge to make heavy xira and 1 free one you can use every 4 days to make heavy xira but otherwise extra 30/ min xira
eh
what do you mean by 3 forge for heavy xiranite?
here my xira after 4 days
havent 😭
yeah so thats one forge for heavy right
2 for xircon 1 for for heavy itself
the remaining forges are for xircon that you feed to the heavy forge
get the switching 1 forge usage
2? i thought there were 8 in total
but you need 2 forge output for full production xira
also 1 effluent
limiting all xiranite belts to 15/m does the same thing as limiting the sewage to 0.25/s
you need like 4 limiters though, but it shouldnt break again
instead of keeping sewage to zero, it keeps xiranite at zero
1 heavy xira equals 6 normal xira machines
eh what you mean by cloging reactors?
both is better tho for that layout
for those who dont use the backfeed
some people are still clogging their xircon reactor at this point lmao

its only 2 xira output + 1 forge to make heavy itself if you use extra effluent from 2 fulll line xircon maker
i use kyo one heavy xiranite is slow
exactly, 2 xircon makers need 4 xiranite inputs, plus the other 2 xiras for the heavy, total of 6 xiras for 1 heavy xira xD
then you also need to add bonus 2 xira lines
my 1.25/s sc is actually working, i just messed up my converger priority
this is how i discovered you can clog the sewage, and its fine
wait.... is that better than LC battery ? 
by a lot
im talking about the starting of the chain towards the end xD
if you take the start you need 2 cuprium (swage) 2 ferrium (powder) and 6 xira (4 for the xircon and 2 for the heavy) to make the final product heavy xiranite.
you earn 1000w of power by switching or 37.2k bills/hr
what you use for meta transfer btw?
air xD (whatever you fancy)
same for lc, dense ori
k
can this xircon effluent be supplied by 2x sc wuling waste alone?
this machine, twice
thats 30/min
yes, it exactly can if you produce 12/min of bat
ah yeah ok
ask hikarin
so theres gonna be a forge left over then
@subtle finch
alright cool
why its noot working?
clogging
??
what stinks abt the expanded reactor is while yes its more compact, it can only make 15/min xircon =3=
omfg, i did something wrong with the answers i gave you
you have to direct the gold liquid out, drain it back into that pool
i forgot to change the power consumption, that was my rate
either that or to some other facility
what should i use?
wait lemme fix again
how tf?
this
you didnt bring it back to the pool?
drain the liquid back into that pool
How manu refining sewage do I need to run a crucible
it's working
For some reason I keep getting bottlenecked
why its temporary?
Just did a quick calc
If you stay within 4733 power in valley4 comprising of:
4 x HC Valley thermal banks - 4400W
200W free from base
2 x origum ore thermal banks (100W)
1 x origium ore thermal bank running at 5/m (33W)
(So you use full 20/m origium ore for thermal banks)
You can buy out all the outposts and have leftover HC bats that can power 7 thermal banks (7700W) in Wuling if you transfer over
how about that ferium dust though ? you manual transfer?
i have this on the side, it gives exactly for hetonite, then sends the rest to depot
You have extra HC bat of 10.96857/m being produced
to maximize wuling's bill earning, what items should I be creating and trading?
Wuling SC Batteries, Heavy Xiranite, Hetonite Parts
if i just do it in other place i dont need to make the contraption ? it will cloged itself? 
yes, that's fine too
what about the production rate?
im limiting my xiranite, and hetonite solution production, so it should just follow that rate and clog
I produce:
- 12 SC batteries/min (1.5 used for energy)
- 4 Hetonite parts/min (2 used for components)
- 6 heavy xiranite/min (2 used for components)
- a bit of leftover xiranite
why not working?
didn't select outputs
https://youtu.be/fjkGRRPdw8U?si=let1UHndce_JFKn1
I found this video, is the information and numbers in here correct?
Hi Endministrators!
In this video, I'll go over the changes made to Wuling's AIC in the At the Wake of Spring version, what new goods you should produce, and how much it matters.
Background footage is from a recording of me adjusting my Wuling AIC after the update.
0:00 Introduction
0:37 Tl;DR
0:49 Outpost Stock Bill Math
1:01 What To Produce...
i did
then check what it's lacking
Because it would nice to kinda have a goal for what to optimise my factory for and not just copy pasting a blueprint
@wispy grove lol, you are barely clearing it
so its just power usage eh
How many Hetonite Components are you guys stockpiling (so that you're never gonna make it again)?
yep
can i see your battery dige?
current outpost gen ig
just do 0.75/min and dont stop making it
no sewage because your moulding unit for cuprium bottle is clogged
i'm at 2.06/min atm with this
Hey what's the max yield of cuprium ore that can be extracted per minute?
I haven't put one up for mine yet 😭
I'll probably just go with 5000
i'm lazy so i just divide it by 9
just so I have some wiggle room for whatever tf I wanna put
it's okay, i just put mine when im nearing my target power usage already
smh I tried that one and it just gave me poweroutage
skill issue 
time to abuse the free back up power
are you using self-clog?
I just changed to 3/3/2/2 instead of 3/3/3/2
yeah?
I'm still 7% over outpost gen anyways though
some dige solutions are prone to clogging if you self clog
i do this instead, saves facility count anyway
weird, I just dump everything back to source with 1 belt gap
and it was dying online even
so I just gave up on it
it's probably the central converger
sometimes when you place it down it sometimes throttles for no perceivable reason
i like how low my battery goes down so i kept it
replacing it with a new one can work but yea feeding back to your outpost is the safest bet ig
is there anyway to know which is effluent and which is water output from this purifier?
yeah memorise it
yellow is good stuff
y sure?
match the color
yup
nooo don't look at the colors that's evil
yellow = purified, orange = byproduct
see, im not the only one


wait that's actually a thing holy shit
I mean how have you been using crucibles this entire time
tbh what I don't like is that it doesn't follow the recipe order
trial and error 
it just shows up in the output slots randomly
I looked at recipe order and assumed it'd be listed left/right as top/bottom but then it wasn't
finally
cup powder 60?
nice informative video.
this weekly artifice fodder cost is getting out of hand.... at least heto isn't good for it but will we be lucky next comp too?
oh nah nah its just simulation
wait IF you can clog sewage, then you only need a spliter here ? instead multiple this ?
The last one might end up not having enough liquid.
yeep 1 pipe can sustain 4 building worth of liquid
pipe is 2/s max so ye
whats the production for this patch?
uhh heavy xiranite and hetonite part
want the output too?
22.5 heto
12 SC or 13.25 w/ dense ori meta
6 h.xira
tiny yazh C w/ spare ferrium
some 30 or less xira cuz of the extra forge depending if you're >12/min SC
Help its clogged
finally
Your Cuprium full?
its 2.25 heto comp
Blueprint?
Yes no black fluid
