aic-factory

[quartz pagoda]

thats exactly what i said there

[shut rover]

I'll just max it before i turn yazhen back on

[shadow void]

in like 2 months time

[vale topaz]

my hetonite component is based on manual feed, won't automate it since the ingredients is not in efficient state as well

[shut rover]

Now to just plan how i should rebuild the entire goddamn thing

[shut rover]

More or less 3 or 4 days

If done right i can still produce 6 a min battery

Worse case

3

A min

[ornate sorrel]

i really have to circumvent the 5k unit limit of port control in the most absurd means possible huh 💀

[tribal crescent]

what even is this gng

[vale topaz]

what in the name of splitter / converger / bridge is that.....

[shadow void]

priority sorter that we can limit what goes thru each port with exact item/s counts is what we need

[somber ledge]

Is it normal for this to be really slow? Should I fix anything

[ornate sorrel]

a control port can limit an item to 5k

[midnight granite]

whats the max ferrium yield in wuling?

[ornate sorrel]

ONLY 5k.

this is how you circumvent that cap

[river wadi]

90 per min

[ornate sorrel]

if you want to set that cap to numbers higher than 5k

lmao

[midnight granite]

so a$$

[ornate sorrel]

just split them up and have them go through as much control ports as possible

but yeah the split -> 3 control port -> converge allows you to set it to 15k

[quartz pagoda]

you know... you can just let the sand clog... is not that deep
you need me to send you some leftover sandleaf bro?

[sick basin]

Its slow because youre only using 1 crucible for it, we can use 6 currently

[midnight granite]

and 180 for cuprium right

[ornate sorrel]

no it wont clog, i siphoned sand from my xiranite production

if i dont control port this

i'll run out of originium

and i dont want that lol

[quartz pagoda]

i see

[ornate sorrel]

yeah im running on negative originium rns ince i have 2 wulign battery running as well

[quartz pagoda]

what if you control port the Dense Origocrust?

[ornate sorrel]

i'll end up doing the same splitter converger tactic but on the origocrust instead

[vale topaz]

well, it is slow because the game won't allow efficient hetonite production yet.
the nearest amount for efficient without manual pause / continue to replenish curprium by manual mining ( destroying rocks ) involve 6 crucible with 6 curpium dust input.
1 expanded crucible + 5 normal crucible + 2 purification unit.

[ornate sorrel]

its just me circumventing the 5k control port limit LOL

somewhere somehow this contraption will appear somewhere if i want to work around the 5k control port limit

[quartz pagoda]

how about you... Metatransfer Dense Originium and feed it directly to the machine. that way when you run out of Dense Originium it just stops, until the next metatransfer

[ornate sorrel]

metatransfer isn't fast enough and i have a lot of excess local originium

[quartz pagoda]

WHO WOULD MINE BY HAND
aint no way ppl are really that tryhard... right?
plz tell me no one does that, i need to hear it

[ornate sorrel]

why wouldn't i try to use the local ones first and control porting them

[tribal crescent]

well

[quartz pagoda]

you making 2 SC, you have no excess local

[carmine whale]

is there anything i could meta transfewr when farming red component for gears for some help? dosent seem like anything ig

[ornate sorrel]

there is actually

the 60k+ stash that gets build up whenever you renovate or accidentally broke something

[quartz pagoda]

wao

https://klipy.com/gifs/clapping-applause-69

[somber ledge]

I got 11 hetonite in ten minutes

This will take forever

[ornate sorrel]

yeah im referring to using up these without running out of them so i started using control ports

[quartz pagoda]

so you mean the excess only build up when you are not using originium

who would have guessed

maybe

[ornate sorrel]

???????

why are you making fun of this

[vale topaz]

.... >.> i did.....

[quartz pagoda]

you should go to your mining rigs and turn them off before changing your factory, that way you also save some power

[winter rune]

I can empty out king flats in 2 more days trust

[ornate sorrel]

bro you're erally assuming that this is something i'd like to run continuously

bitch no, thats what the control ports are for 😭

[winter rune]

rn cardiac can be emptied with just hxira 6/min and a bit of sc batt

[ornate sorrel]

i only wanted to run this until a certain amount of unit is used up

[quartz pagoda]

so... you dont want to run it continuosly but "metatransfer is too slow"

[sick basin]

Slot in wulfgard btw

More money

[winter rune]

wulf and lifeng do the same thing

[ornate sorrel]

why shouldn't i try to make it slightly faster even if its just for a bit? i also have metatransfer going on top of this

😭

[shadow void]

7.5m HC batteries

[ornate sorrel]

bro's really mad about someone's playstyle omg

[sick basin]

They do not
Wulf is money and money
Lifeng is money and prosperitt which u dont need when max lvl

[quartz pagoda]

im not mad

is just that i think you are not making any sense :v

[ornate sorrel]

im just trying to USE, the excess 60K units, that gets accidentally build up whenever i renovate the factory, and no more than that

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE

[quartz pagoda]

now it does, yeah

im not a mind reader bro

like, who could have guessed

[ornate sorrel]

maybe u should've asked instead of jumping the gun?

[quartz pagoda]

it is common sense to automate the factory so it works efficiently
making a manual contraption to get rid of the surplus that gets build up durin the renovations is something that i have nver heard of to this day, so it never crossed my mind to ask you if this was your reason

and when i say "common sense" i mean "what most ppl do"

[vapid granite]

I bet yall cant guess who these operators are

[shadow void]

only one operator there

theres some wierd black and white blob there, i cant really make it out /s

[quartz pagoda]

black clothes and a black eye covering... that must be Endministrator
the red one with the canine features is too easy, obviously Gilberta

[ornate sorrel]

tbf i never thought of it until i heard about control ports lol

i didnt know you can use it to control the amount of items that gets through things

[quartz pagoda]

i do that as a on/off switch for my factory

[vapid granite]

its just crazy it requires 3 xirinite farms man

[true lynx]

I can't seem to wrap my head around making Hetonite part at full efficiency, the Purification unit requiring 4 solution units just throws everything out of whack

it's so cursed

[ornate sorrel]

you're not meant to

[quartz pagoda]

2 if you recycle your 4 Innert Xircon Effluent from SC Batteries into 1 Xircon Effluent and feed it to the Forge

[ornate sorrel]

we're only given 75% effecoemcu fpr the next month or whatever

cry about it

[true lynx]

So... 4 maximum?

[vale topaz]

under impression the dev intentionally make resource scarce or encourage people to do manual transfer just to prolong player interaction with the game.
i meant, most 'efficient' way to transfer between region is at dijiang.
even that we are limited by our back pack size and prolonged by waiting to load region warehouse.
the meta transfer feature itself is also too limited and only work once per hour.

[true lynx]

Then i must be doing something wrong, i couldn't even get to that without some awful waste on the front end

[shadow void]

[ornate sorrel]

they want player retention and well

its player retention alright. the annoying kind if you just wanna be done with factory

[shadow void]

yeah, bit tired of manually transfering my HC batteries over

[ornate sorrel]

i made an absurd elaborate plan

on what to do with the extra forge once i hoard enough xira comp

it's pretty cursed

What to do with extra xiranite forge:

1. Hoard max amount of purple bottle and transfer to Wuling
2. Develop 2 modes: Xiranite mode and Heavy Xiranite mode
3. Xiranite mode:set up a Xiranite water -> Sewage setup (Sewage will be directly split from cuprium while sending the other half back to water treatment, that way, it'll never clog up even if it reaches max. Pack Xircon Effluent em em into purple bottles until it clogs from fulling the storage with purple bottles
4. Heavy Xiranite mode unpack purple bottles run half speedn heavy xiranite until purple bottle stashed Xircon Effluent runs out.
5. move forge between xiranite prod and heavy xiranite prod whenever you want to swap (dont forget to drain the water and remove the item

[vale topaz]

guess tonight, i'll use that 1 extra forge and push power usage beyond 4.5k T_T

1 more circle of sandleaf and jincao to feed the forge.

damn it, my bp feature double.... gah, have to manual placement

[vapid granite]

What

[vapid granite]

So this finally has a purpose

[ornate sorrel]

yea u merge em all from your battery production and feed it to heavy xira

[vapid granite]

You guys are hurting my brain

[ornate sorrel]

dump the water back to the river

[vapid granite]

Im working so hard here doing step by step and yall are like "lemme teach you some loopholes"

[ornate sorrel]

ok so

[vale topaz]

#aic-factory message
2 xircon line with 1 heavy xiranite to use the waste

[vapid granite]

sshut

[wispy grove]

simplest form of it

[ornate sorrel]

what is expanded crucible for rn?

havent found a purpose for it

[wispy grove]

you can make 2 recipes or 3 at the same time in once crucible

[ornate sorrel]

aw hell naw

this is hell

all that to save space??? that i dont even need???

[ruby sorrel]

why is it hell when you literally have less pipes to worry about

[wispy grove]

to save energy and less facilities

[ornate sorrel]

that again, i dont need rn so lol

[wispy grove]

you may hit facility cap if u use alot of facilities

[wispy grove]

thats up to you really

its not uhh mandatory

[vale topaz]

less piping is a blessing

[ornate sorrel]

can you manually assign which recipe are you actually trying to make or nah not really

do i still have to pipe fluid circon to another thing

[wispy grove]

more like its more energy efficient to have less facilities, you get more bills cause you use lesser batteries on your thermal banks

[wispy grove]

manually assign recipe no. the crucible will do that for you, its the output you can manually assign

[ornate sorrel]

i havent been able to go low enough that i only need 1 wuling bat to upkeep the whole thing anyway

[wispy grove]

[ornate sorrel]

so does this mean that i still can't do liquid xira in the same crucible? i need to move it to another one still?

[wispy grove]

you can

[ornate sorrel]

....

i'll bite

[wispy grove]

looks clean too

instead of using 10 normal reactors, you can lower it down up to 4 expanded reactorsspace maxxing as its finest

[ornate sorrel]

....

[wispy grove]

if it works, dont fix it

[nova lodge]

hmm....so what do i do with 1 extra sky forge now lul?

extra xiranite (without the heavy ver.)

[wispy grove]

yeah

u cansell it

or

[ornate sorrel]

i think its more like

[wispy grove]

make comps

[ornate sorrel]

i kinda want to know how it works

[nova lodge]

[wispy grove]

do you know it now? or u still need more info?

[ashen isle]

craft the lower level xiranite battery

[wispy grove]

[nova lodge]

not enuff originum, unless i go for manual transfer ;v

or yeah, can also craft tons of LC i guess

[ashen isle]

u can get free 1500 transfer

which is 25/min so u will be 5/min short, but its not a big deal

or u can use it for gear component, its the same as battery, depends on which one u needed more

[nova lodge]

yeah, guess those are the only options.
thanks for the suggestion.

currently focusing on hetonite though

[ashen isle]

I had a temporary design made for this patch to min max all the extra resources xd...

(part of the design is from a video from bilibili)

[uneven aspen]

any issues with this? Kinda unsure if 3 reactor crucibles of cuprium solution can go through one pipe. or if the acid would be fine or not.

[nova lodge]

i just cleaned up my base as well....mostly anyway.

that took hours ;v

[autumn current]

I just noticed that the sub core is moveable.. and im lvl 56..

[ashen isle]

I wiped my base and rebuilt it this patch LOL, found a good blueprint in this server combined with another blueprint from bilibili >:P future proof for 1.2 mid patch

[nova lodge]

but hey, i had also cleaned up my xiranite design, better shape and more modular now.

[wispy grove]

OH WOW ITS 8

[hoary crag]

3 reactors of cuprium solution can go through one pipe, although your acid is questionable

one pump can only supply two facilities (in this case, two reactors)

but you're feeding it into 3

unless if you have 3 pumps equally split into the manifold's two pipes

[wispy grove]

yeah this reactors will ran out of acid

[uneven aspen]

yup reason why im using manifold cause it's acting like a pipe splitter

[wispy grove]

unless

[uneven aspen]

saw 2 people do something similar having the crucibles be in 1 line and said that it works

though had to delete and place again until it works

but idk

[hoary crag]

can we see the other end of that conduit?

[uneven aspen]

it's enka not in-game

but conduit manifold can move 4/s

[wispy grove]

yeah it works but, i think what will happen here is you need 3 fluid pumps connecting in that conduit manifold

[hoary crag]

it can

[wispy grove]

then it will work

[hoary crag]

it's 2/s per pipe

let's move acid assumptions aside and say the supply is enough (3/s)

[wispy grove]

just use 3 fluid pipes, it will split properly i think

[hoary crag]

the first 4 reactors actually won't work initially

[wispy grove]

yep

[hoary crag]

it's because all acid will be sent as output instead of being used for formula

but this influx would clog the final reactors

[uneven aspen]

well I guess i will try it in-game later

[hoary crag]

when that time comes, the second reactors would then start to both fill up and process

repeat until it reaches the first reactors

[vale topaz]

wait, do expanded crucible even required at hetonite line ?

[hoary crag]

learned it by accident when doing a similar line for myself

[wispy grove]

yep

[vale topaz]

normal crucible should be able to handle 2 formula....

[wispy grove]

you need 2 pipe inputs, 2 belt inputs, and 2 outputs

yeah it cant

[tame sedge]

I just accidentally found this out yesterday

[uneven aspen]

well time to implement this 😔

[wispy grove]

that pipeline is scary

[hoary crag]

imagine

personally I like it

[uneven aspen]

my sewage has broken 2 days in a row 💀 i have no confidence it will work properly

well atlaest i can fix the acid

there's room to separate the pipes more

[hoary crag]

sewage for?

[vapid granite]

What was this for again?

[hoary crag]

shits and giggles

[uneven aspen]

just my cuprium powder messed up

fixed it now

first day it was clogging , then 2nd day i was treating too much

[wispy grove]

if you need to store any fluid

[ruby sorrel]

but why do you need to store any fluid

[vapid granite]

Wasnt there a way to store fluid in inventory?

[uneven aspen]

manually refilling bottles

[hoary crag]

bottles

[ruby sorrel]

I say as I have 2 tanks in my farm for fun

[wispy grove]

i use that in my heavy xiranite solution.

so that once its full i can just remove the back pipe and connect it to filling

[tame sedge]

Drinking fountain

[wispy grove]

so that i can let it work offline without making too much liquid solution

[jade temple]

INTERESTING XD

[ornate sorrel]

aight i get it now

[vale topaz]

what's total item slot of normal crucible again ? cannot check , not in front of my pc

[hoary crag]

5

[ornate sorrel]

you really an do the process of 3 crucible in one machine huh

[vale swift]

just figured out I could send the acid to a different area in ferrium bottles and seperate them into a cruciable

[ruby sorrel]

I just put a bunch in deadstashes and let it run, never going to need more than 300 bottles of these things to spray

[ornate sorrel]

do you still need a water inlet or can a purification machine sustain a xircon production

[wispy grove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[ruby sorrel]

wait you can do that?

[wispy grove]

ofc

i ran out of bottles

so yeah i did that

[ruby sorrel]

meanwhile I've been unbottling my excess stuff manually

[vale topaz]

owh 5, yeah, need expanded crucible.
cuprium dust, ferrium dust, acid + cuprium liquid, hetonite liquid, sewage..... yep, expanded crucible.
man, hetonite process takes too much space.

[wispy grove]

the more you know

[ruby sorrel]

I somehow had 1k yazhen bottles so I let the machine run overnight

how did I have 1k yazhen bottles???

[wispy grove]

just make yazhen syringe at that point

[hoary crag]

so far the max hetonite line needs 5 reactors

simply because overclocking doesn't exist

[ruby sorrel]

well I wanted the bottles for xiranite

cus I ran out of bottles

[wispy grove]

ohhh

[ruby sorrel]

I have no clue wtf happened to my inventory

I ran out of bottled xira and bottles

[vale swift]

Yahzen Bottles for Trading, Jacinto Tea for Tactical

[ruby sorrel]

but 1k yazhen bottles

[hoary crag]

I prefer jincao infusion for tactical lol

[river wadi]

yazhen spray L >>

[midnight granite]

with the current material yield rn, can do 2 battery 1 hetonite?

[ruby sorrel]

I find it doesn't matter what heals cus I just bounce around from mortars these days

or I troll at rhodagn and die from explosions

same thing really

[shut rover]

How many forge can be put down now

[hoary crag]

12/min sc battery
2.25/min hetonite
6/min heavy xiranite
30/min xiranite
some med C
rest depends on what meta you're using

[river wadi]

8

[wispy grove]

my still usingbuck A

[vale topaz]

it's the space.... 8 reactors + 2 purification unit. ( if efficient )
4x3 with the 12th area for fitting unit / purification / inlet for acid dump / protocol stash ?

[midnight granite]

u mean the extra is 30/min xiranite

[ruby sorrel]

I don't use buckA cus I'm rarely in valley anymore

[hoary crag]

yup

[shut rover]

I need two for 12 a min bats because of purification, and i need 6 total for 12 a min heavy xiranite

[ruby sorrel]

I used all the buckA I took to wuling ages ago

[midnight granite]

aight bet, im gonna lay my syringe to rest

[river wadi]

yazhen spray L can heal up to 6000 hp each time

[ruby sorrel]

ppl actually craft sprayL?

[shut rover]

I should be able not to risk battery production then

[river wadi]

unlike most people i use the eco farm

[ruby sorrel]

I just farm ginseng for fun

and rice

[hoary crag]

that ofc is assuming you're using the inert xircon effluents from the sc battery lines to produce your heavy xiranite

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I should farm ya/jin

[hoary crag]

otherwise, that's where the last 30/min is going

[ruby sorrel]

I think I passed 1k rice/ginseng alr

[river wadi]

yazhen is better since it heals more hp per use compared to jincao

[ruby sorrel]

but the aesthetics

the actual amount doesn't really matter

[void owl]

wdym clogged?

fuck this shit gom gonna go buck to a reactor crucible

[midnight granite]

yeah i have 2 batteries rn 12/min, my hetonite isn't set up yet cuz im still farming syringe

[ruby sorrel]

why are you spewing sewage

bricking everything

[river wadi]

your sewage is going nowhere

[void owl]

seage is supposed to be for reactions

[wispy grove]

looks clean

[river wadi]

whyd you pick it as an output then

[ruby sorrel]

oh wait that's not even connected

don't dump sewage into it then

[wispy grove]

your giving too much sewage

[ornate sorrel]

ok so can you like

merge all of the process of making xircon into one machine?

[wispy grove]

once it reaches 50, the solid xircon cannot be reacted. because it also creates sewage

[wispy grove]

yes

didnt i show u?

[ornate sorrel]

can i get a cheat sheet of how much needs to come in and how much needs to come out?

[wispy grove]

well techically if youre relying on one machine, you can only make like 15/min xircon. so you still need another expanded for extra xircon effluent

[ruby sorrel]

if you need it to come out you've already borked it

[river wadi]

2 expanded crucibles is still more power efficient than the old 5 crucible

[ruby sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1495840492313776352/image.png?ex=69e7b584&is=69e66404&hm=bf65a6adf4568bc7c1997df4f824ffc9e25f95c6473f25e42410a2305a89df9c& it's right there in the formulas

[ornate sorrel]

like this?

[lone pebble]

think this is more then enought

[wispy grove]

type 1 expanded crucible input:
1 line of xiranite
1 pipe of sewage
1 pipe of water

your output will be 1 xirco eff and inert xircon

type 2 expanded crucible input:
1 line of xiranite
1 line of ferrium powder
1 pipe of xircon effluent(from the type 1 crucible)
1 pipe of water

your output will be inert and solid xircon

[wispy grove]

thats uhh

that will clog

cause your making 1.25/ 2secs xircon eff

[ornate sorrel]

like this then? i'm still worried if it'll clog, mainly the sewage excess that comes out of this machine?

[wispy grove]

yeah no

[ruby sorrel]

you're gonna need 2 belts out

[wispy grove]

thats 2 copies of type 1 crucible

[ruby sorrel]

oh wait no they're half crucibles

[wispy grove]

yeah youre right

but

[ornate sorrel]

belts of what

[wispy grove]

the belts and pipes are correct

but

[uneven aspen]

will hopefully work in 1.2 new area

[wispy grove]

as long as you sewage dont exceed 0.5/s in each reactor. it wont clog

[wispy grove]

uhhh how much water inside the conduit?

if its 4/s, its good

[uneven aspen]

yup it's 4/s

[void owl]

why cant i trade heavy xir.....

[wispy grove]

its on the uhh other one

[ornate sorrel]

this would do, would it?

[wispy grove]

no no

[ornate sorrel]

had to take off the sewage from one machine to another

to let it gather a bit of buffer

[wispy grove]

the prev is better

buffering it will clog the lower reactor

it will stop working

dont

[ornate sorrel]

ok but like

what do i do with the excess sewage?

[ruby sorrel]

what excess sewage

[ornate sorrel]

cuz making xircon ALSO makes extra sewage

no?

[void owl]

should i make heavy xir or SC bat?

[ruby sorrel]

why are you having excess sewage

don't dump so much sewage in if you have excess

[wispy grove]

theres no excess if you only have 2 refineries connected to that conduit

2 only

[void owl]

help?

[ruby sorrel]

wym just do both

[ornate sorrel]

oh so split the conduit, and let the first half be the conduit sewage, and the other half be the recycled sewage from xircon?

[ruby sorrel]

no just put 1 refiner's sewage in

2 = death

[uneven aspen]

both you want both. they pay for most of the stockbills in both outposts

[wispy grove]

just use this, this is working properly

[wispy grove]

just only use sewage from 2 refineries connecting to this conduit

[wispy grove]

delete the whole crucible

[ruby sorrel]

2 = clog wtf

this is 1 xircon line

[wispy grove]

no?

[uneven aspen]

you're trying to do 2 expanded crucibles to make xircon?

[wispy grove]

youre splitting

[ruby sorrel]

1 in 1 recycle

that's total xircon

[wispy grove]

what im saying is

[ruby sorrel]

2 refiners = clog

[wispy grove]

2 refineries make 1/s right?

[mild nymph]

What are you talking about in this chat? lol

[ruby sorrel]

2 refiners is 2 xircon lines

[wispy grove]

thats what hes doing

[ruby sorrel]

no that's 2 half lines = 1

[wispy grove]

OHHHHHHH

youre right

[ruby sorrel]

smh

[wispy grove]

yeah only use 1 my bad

.

[ornate sorrel]

okay yeah so its' the waste that's building up

[wispy grove]

yeah just use 1 refinery only

[uneven aspen]

the expanded crucible making the xircon has xir effu and water connected to it

[wispy grove]

why your inert is clogging?

[uneven aspen]

you only give it some sewage then the xircon recipe will sustain itself the sewage.

[edgy kindle]

idk the forum wasnt showing for me mb lmao

[ornate sorrel]

nvm turns out its because my purification had a random wrong liquid stuck in it

[vapid granite]

Aint no fucking way

[ornate sorrel]

uh

chat i think i still need 2

[uneven aspen]

2 crucibles for xircon? yup because you need 2x xir effu

[wispy grove]

your sewage stopped

[ruby sorrel]

that's the expected if you do 1 crucible

[ornate sorrel]

no its not, sometimes the visual would just glitch out

[wispy grove]

nah the xircon is passing through

[ruby sorrel]

idk I see some random other crucible chilling though

[wispy grove]

show both crucibles

[ornate sorrel]

okay yeah its working correctly now i think

[wispy grove]

just need to marinate a bit

[ornate sorrel]

this is somehow the best worst new facility 😭

so confusing to set up

[worldly holly]

eh thats ... 2 50% xircon right?

[ruby sorrel]

it's just loopback without the pipes

[ornate sorrel]

yea 2 50% xircon

i transfered xircon from the first to the second

[nova lodge]

i had just nuked my base and rebuild everything step by step.....kinda look awkard to me.

[wispy grove]

theres uhh 2 ways to make xircon
1st way is using 2 connected crucibles to make 30/min xircon
2nd way is to make every crucible do 15/min xircon

at this point its just preference

[ruby sorrel]

I prefer not splitting my ferr and sewage

[worldly holly]

same

[nimble topaz]

what are valley 4 max output?how many HC battery and capsule A?

[worldly holly]

18 for both

[wispy grove]

dang imagine were at the 4-5th region and someone will ask this question

[ornate sorrel]

what do you even transfer from the 1st to 2nd for the 1st method

[wispy grove]

xircon eff

[ornate sorrel]

show picture

[wispy grove]

instead of splitting

the sewage only goes to the 1st crucible

[ornate sorrel]

whats nicer

[wispy grove]

and ferrium goes to the 2nd crucible

[ornate sorrel]

in terms of piping

[void owl]

the only good part of having open world weponds

[wispy grove]

[ornate sorrel]

seems like no matter which route you take, you cant really avoid having two lines of pipe on the sides cuz of overlapping huh

[wispy grove]

yeah pretty much

[ruby sorrel]

idk I kinda just like having pipes everywhere

[upper fiber]

unless you have source of water on both side

[ruby sorrel]

if you line up the fluid ports instead it's a lot less piping

[latent kayak]

I have an 1 extra forge of the sky making 30/min xiranite. What should I do with it?

I want to make LC batteries, but that pushes originium usage 180/min past yield (480/min in Wuling currently?)

[upper fiber]

metatransfer dense ori

[magic geyser]

Why is my factory such a mess LOL, I just completely re-did my factory just to make heavy xiranite

[latent kayak]

oh wow both ori and dense ori are 1.5k an hour. Literally double transfering the latter

Seems like cheating lol

[wispy grove]

sure but, be careful of running out of orig

[upper fiber]

don't tell the devs

the cuprium intern already got fired, another one will be sacked next if told

[vale topaz]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=U7k9r7y4J3P1R4 wonder if 1 outlet acid can feed 4 crucibles

[magic geyser]

Lol wait why is dense ori 1.5k an hour?!

[upper fiber]

🤫

[wispy grove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[latent kayak]

still, 1.5k is only 25/min, and lc batteries require 90/min, right?

[strong quiver]

Why hating it

[upper fiber]

yeah, still have xiranite leftover

[strong quiver]

Open world weapon is based

[void owl]

they are a hassle to set up

[latent kayak]

Should I start manually transferring from v4 lol

[upper fiber]

that would defeat the purpose of aic...

[wispy grove]

actually, you only need 15/min dense orig to keep LC thermal bank running at 100% eff

[latent kayak]

well manual in addition to metatransfer, to make up for the gap

[wispy grove]

if you have free time, why not

[latent kayak]

isn't it 15 per 10s, so 15 * 6 is 90/min?

[wispy grove]

just one line

15min dense orig =1.5 min LC

thats 1 per 40 secs

[void owl]

is there anything that can hit faster than the motars and deal good damage

[upper fiber]

lastrite ulti

[leaden drift]

my current factory is so jank

[wispy grove]

youre doing great

[latent kayak]

sorry i'm not really following your math. One line of xiranite is 30/min. To match 30/min of xiranite, you need 3x dense ori, which is 90/min, no?

[mystic temple]

whats the area size of the new sub PAC?

[valid ibex]

is expanded crucible even good?
i have issues thinking of any uses for it

[leaden drift]

i have more xiranite than raw ores

its so bad

[wispy grove]

yeah but that is if you want 6/min lc

[leaden drift]

i used it to savve space

[meager vale]

What do the conduit manifolds do? Is it the same as regular conduits but with double capacity/throughput?

[ruby sorrel]

saves space, saves power, saves pipes

what more do you want

[latent kayak]

yeahh that is the intent, so I don't have leftover xiranite

[magic geyser]

What is the point of the expanded reactor crucible? It consumes 50 more power

[wispy grove]

what im saying is you can just make 1.5min lc and youre good to go

[leaden drift]

that purifier thing is insane

[upper fiber]

it can triple process xircon

[latent kayak]

here's how i used them

[leaden drift]

im able to save 20 xiranite a sc battery

[ruby sorrel]

if purifier was 2:1 it'd be the best thing ever

[leaden drift]

while making 10

[wispy grove]

you can make 3 recipes working at once

[leaden drift]

well right now saving 30

[valid ibex]

what am i even looking at

[tepid wigeon]

Making Xircon from raw materials in a single expanded crucible

[wispy grove]

magic

[magic geyser]

oh wow

[valid ibex]

yeah uh
uhm
i'd rather normal crucible i think

[tepid wigeon]

Combine 3 actions into 1 crucible, then use a second expanded crucible (or 2 standard reactor) for the other half and feed it in

It's self-sufficient on sewage

[latent kayak]

this looks like witchcraft. I applaud you, sir

[tepid wigeon]

It's like, the first thing we thought of for making use of it

[latent kayak]

I am now tempted to remodel my entire sub PAC using this new knowledge

[upper fiber]

half space used and -50 power per xircon

[valid ibex]

legit cant even parse that sentence

[leaden drift]

my old set up

[strong quiver]

So are you in the eye of your parent

They did it anyway

[ruby sorrel]

going from this to this, what's not to like

[leaden drift]

not enough belts

[ruby sorrel]

I moved the belts to the right instead

[tepid wigeon]

My other xircon setup is makeshift cause I'm too lazy to make a good setup

[tepid wigeon]

oh I like using the water to make yahzen solution

[ruby sorrel]

I actually swapped that around later cus I might delete the yazhen

[leaden drift]

so using the last forge of the sky might be detrimental to me

[valid ibex]

...yeah i touched the new crucible a bit
idt i want, scary and confusing

[strong quiver]

New crucible just allow you to process acid and water at the same time

Instead of 2 line of water solvent

[latent kayak]

Since the 3 reaction expanded crucible is self-sustaining with sewage, what do you use sewage from cuprium production for? Just water treat it?

[strong quiver]

[ruby sorrel]

why would you be using both acid and water though

[upper fiber]

it is the same as the 1st reactor you inputted sewage and water, you can delete the other 2

[valid ibex]

why would i even need water and acid in one place

[strong quiver]

More xircon

[strong quiver]

The new sub PAC is really small

Unless you wanna run an entire acid line from one end of Wuling city to another

[latent kayak]

You know what, I think I'll settle for my double reaction setup lol

[strong quiver]

(i ran a line from the new area to Jingu then realize i also need somewhere to dump the acid after production)

HG please

[upper fiber]

loop back

[echo sand]

I think heavy xiranite doesn't have many point except for selling right?

[valid ibex]

i have a line of sewage from AIC to that new PAC

[vapid granite]

YESS 36 HOURS IN AND IM FINALLY DONE

• 100% SC Battery
• 50% Yahzen A
• 50% Hetonite component

Final step is to sleep tonight and hope nothing breaks tomorrow

[strong quiver]

Let us dissapear em water and acid in the waster treatment unit

[echo sand]

How many power required to 100%?

[upper fiber]

where heavy xira

[wispy grove]

good thinng you havent reacehd facility cap yet

[strong quiver]

Damm you don't run the cupium process line right next to it?

[leaden drift]

starting to stablize

[wispy grove]

cant, heto and yazhen A share cuprium resources

[vapid granite]

Impossible right now

[valid ibex]

no? i dont have place in AIC, batteries and xiranite are made there

[strong quiver]

This is my current xircon/hemanite line

[echo sand]

I mean not all item 100%

[strong quiver]

Alll contain in the new sub PAC

8 hrs of my life i cannot get back just to fit this in the smallest space possible

Felt like a mountain goat

[valid ibex]

i just place stuff in places and it works sometimes

[leaden drift]

im just throwing stuff at the wall atm

[strong quiver]

Yeah like

If i can process the acid comfortably i would split that line up to 1 every sub PAC

but processing the spare acid from Hemanite production is a hassle

[valid ibex]

i know my stuff will never be compact and im happy

[wispy grove]

space maxing
facility cap🥀

[echo sand]

How many you guys maximum power need

[wispy grove]

yes

[echo sand]

I can go to 9k but it will wasting battery since i need credit

[echo sand]

Yours?

[wispy grove]

4.5k

[echo sand]

Damn saving energy 🤣

[wispy grove]

i dont make planters, turrets and ziplines

[echo sand]

In valley i only need 3k but wuling really different

[ruby sorrel]

I have ~4.5k with farm and ziplines 🤔

[wispy grove]

ziplines❌
hiking✅

[ruby sorrel]

?? my valley is 4.9k still higher than wuling

[echo sand]

Probably bcs i only produces item i need

[ruby sorrel]

wym you don't have perm lines of amethyst/ferrium/cryston parts in case you need more buildings/zips

[echo sand]

I have much already every part for crafting in valley

Idk bro valley 4 pac seems overkill mine also not crowded like wuling

[ruby sorrel]

idk I have around the same amount of free space

[valid ibex]

i hadn't sold nothing in V4 for like a month now?

still didn't miss a single stock credit in Wuling tho

[ruby sorrel]

gotta stock up on infinite valley gifts so I don't burn wuling bills on trust

[south oasis]

i forgot to put heavy xiranite here

clogged everything up and stopped producing the black liquid, which then led to battery production also shutting down

[vale topaz]

so many bottled water x_X

[south oasis]

o yea thats from some missions and stuff

idk why it didnt auto stash

[vale topaz]

i think dev made bottle liquid not auto stashed.

[river wadi]

bottled liquids dont auto stash since they can be used for spraying

[tame quartz]

how to stop expanded crucible from being clogged with sewage

[wispy grove]

show

[tranquil saddle]

I started endfield like a week ago and I just recently made a xiranite component farm. What should I change besides anything that requires expanded space (I’m currently grinding for that)

[tame quartz]

Sewage is from 1 cuprium production
And pipe is split to supply the crucible and another half to water treatment

[wispy grove]

that should be working properly

[tame quartz]

it just breaks daily when im not looking

[wispy grove]

what do you do to not clog?

[tame quartz]

ill just remove the excess sewage and pray for it to work again

[valid ibex]

Chen putting her own trash into sewage machinery again? tsk tsk when will she stop,,,

[wispy grove]

how do you remove it?

[tame quartz]

just output the sewage for a treatment unit for a while yeah

[wispy grove]

reinstall a new reactor

[devout egret]

I thought it always 2 extended crucible
One crucible feeds efluent xircon to 2nd crucible so it can self sustain the sewage for itself?

[wispy grove]

[tame quartz]

i only have 15/min ferrium left so im doing 1 crucible yeah

[wispy grove]

is your water treatment clogging?

[tame quartz]

nope
its empty

[wispy grove]

[tame quartz]

replaced it with a new crucible
it works when im looking at it
then after a while the sewage starts building up

[wispy grove]

yeah just reinstall new reactor so that everything is clean

[tame quartz]

chen and tangtang must be tossing trash in it when im not looking

[worldly holly]

i think it because piping like that will make the sewage prio the crucible first so its actually a little more than 0.5 make it clogged

[magic geyser]

New Crucible is amazing, I just replaced my 10 normal crucible with 4 new expanded crucible pretty amazing. Saved so much space.

[tame quartz]

huh interesting

[south oasis]

how many forges do you need for 6/m heavy xiranite?

[wispy grove]

your conduit might be full

[worldly holly]

happen to me before, i fix it by place a normal crucible and make xircon there

[south oasis]

eh how 1

[wispy grove]

includes normal xira forges or nah?

[south oasis]

normal too, full thing

[tame quartz]

it explodes even when it is empty

[magic geyser]

New crucibles. Top left corner just requires 4 to produce the heavy xiranite + 2 batteries.

[wispy grove]

3 normal forge, 1 heavy forge
4 in total

but

[vale topaz]

2 options :

• 7 forges if making sc batteries.
• 4 forges if not making sc batteries.

[valid ibex]

why would one not make batteries

it's funny how there's exactly one leftover

extra xiranite for purposes of uh it's there, i guess

[copper lily]

is it worth to go back into valley 4? i'm worried that in short time we gonna move into another region that makes valley 4 factory completely useless.

[valid ibex]

"that makes"

[vale topaz]

feeding new region with HC batteries for startup always a good thing....

[valid ibex]

brother I didn't sell nor buy anything in a month

while still having 300 tickets and 300 of each gift

[bright zodiac]

you can always.....

self instant import premium bottle and any battery you could produce from there, to new region

[copper lily]

wouldnt it be you just import from wuling instead?

[bright zodiac]

at current economy? where you barely scraping for living

[valid ibex]

i hope the event thing will be V4 factory related and not wuling

[bright zodiac]

unfortunately i think it involve heavy xiranite

[worldly holly]

and hetonite

[bright zodiac]

[vale topaz]

at 3rd region, we will export both region highest battery quality for start boosting power consumption

[copper lily]

man

[valid ibex]

i very much do not want to disassemble my factory and lose on gear

[copper lily]

you can't
maximum running factory just for 2 region

[wispy grove]

looks like we will never get HC wuling battery🥀

[bright zodiac]

currently you have to sell almost everything to gain excess

there is no luxury, kekkk just spend wisely

[valid ibex]

i mean
we're only 4 months into a year long region

[wispy grove]

its 1 year?

we already reach lvl 12 regional

[valid ibex]

was stated on livestream and an interview

well, "livestream"
the preview show thing

-# HG, damn, just use Preview functionality of youtube

[worldly holly]

but it didnt say 12 is max tho

[wispy grove]

does that mean we can reach 50m stock bill cap?

[valid ibex]

and we literally have an empty spot for one of copium nodes
and non-high-quality nodes

like yeah no 12 is not the limit for sure

[bright zodiac]

yea there is more

we dont even have metatransfeR yet bcs its not max RDM

[vale topaz]

imagine super sized chubby leung with 1 billion price tag.....

[copper lily]

kinda doubt that since they move the story pace faster.
like nefarith just die earlier than i expected.
hopefully we can go to another region asap.
yet, arknights IP has so many variety of races.
we need to move it faster.

[valid ibex]

DID YOU FUCKING SEE HOW BIG THE GOLD BEAN IS

Zhuang was definitely not happy to have to give us that behemoth of a bean instead of putting it in her office

[valid ibex]

-# and they get them so wrong

[bright zodiac]

what if i told you.... in 2years later, you can recruit her

its typical HG stuf

[vale topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1srb1ea/awww_thats_so_cute_oh_randowis/

[bright zodiac]

bringing boss to your roster like it is a natural things

[bright ocean]

Guys how much yazhen a do I need to produce to maximize my earning? I kinda broke everyday in wuling stockbill

[wheat forum]

We will eventually and with 600/min Originium maximum for 12/min HC Wuling Battery

[copper lily]

that's why.....

it gives me more excuses to not do valley4 factory

[valid ibex]

yeah but not the dead ones

[bright zodiac]

at current economy, you use cuprium to make hetonite

im sure many endmin dont even make meds anymore

[valid ibex]

ideally, none

[unique flame]

does anyone have the zipline on the rooftop of this place? can u share it w me plz

[valid ibex]

yeah that's me

[bright zodiac]

[valid ibex]

there's straight up no reason to

hedonism is straight up more financially viable

[vale topaz]

depend on your story progression, already done with marker stone story ? optional, can be turned off for full hetonite.
before starting marker stone map story ? 6 / m because you don't have access for acid.

[valid ibex]

hentaite

fuck

[bright zodiac]

its also... less facility(no need for meds) and straight up more updated

[valid ibex]

you only need the part that gives you the PAC, both copiums are not locked away behind the two side areas

[valid ibex]

it's also useful excess as opposed to useless excess

[bright zodiac]

i have 58k syringe and drinks so i will be fine for next 10years supply kekkkkk

[bright ocean]

All done

[bright zodiac]

more the reason, make hetonite

from there you can make parts for selling or even components

[vale topaz]

well, feel free to decide, full throttle on hetonite part or still want yazhen A for reasons....

[bright ocean]

The new aic I have excess inventory. My problem is the sky king aic. My stock bill avail for trade is always maxing out
Like I got not enuf shit to sell in skyking

[bright zodiac]

have you.... utilize 8 forge of the sky? 12 SC?

[bright ocean]

I'm not good at explaining but

[bright ocean]

Yes

[vale topaz]

hmm ? 12 sc battery should slowly deplete that part.
while heavy xiranite deplete the other sub

[bright zodiac]

in case you havent make hetonite, heavy xiranite is an okay option for the moment

[bright ocean]

I have one hetonige generator n that's all. Making me a few hundred per day slowly

[valid ibex]

...wuh

it should be doing like, 8 thousand a day

in parts

[bright zodiac]

reminder that full hetonite need 8 cuprium line (240/m), where we can only afford 6line (180/m) rn

check your report, if you are producing 22.5 hetonite rn

[bright ocean]

Def not

[bright zodiac]

then it means your hetonite is not actually working hard enough (along with the purifier)

[valid ibex]

or like
6k per day
i forgor
math without excel hard

in thousands either way

[bright ocean]

6/min

[bright zodiac]

in anyway, you already start producing hetonite, its good

now you just need to add more cupriun powder , more crucible all into purifier to help speed up the process

until you spend 180 cuprium into it

[bright ocean]

Sorry 4

[bright zodiac]

[bright ocean]

It's always full

[bright zodiac]

did you mean 4/m for hetonite or hetonite parts

[bright ocean]

4 hetonite 6 part

Idk that what it says

Not sure what's gg on tbh

[bright zodiac]

[valid ibex]

okay
how many reactors do you have making copium solution

[bright zodiac]

slowly investigating the source problem

[ornate sorrel]

would this help
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1462200012510593066/1496031234881617950/image.png?ex=69e86729&is=69e715a9&hm=4fde1dd6f0a21b814d5c3e1609be6a08642668fb1e51a194e832e17873bba5f1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=808&height=607

[terse zodiac]

So uh, I finally got my AICs upgraded (except plateaue), and I don't have enough amethyst parts for the blueprints I've had, but now I'm destroyed my entire base to make space for the blueprints from a guide I've been linked, and I'm at 1.28k/400 power usage, and idk what to do.

[valid ibex]

that's why i, from the very start, keep a stash of batteries in a disconnected box

[ornate sorrel]

wait can 1 acid sustain four reactors?

[valid ibex]

the great power of "i know i will fuck up"

[ornate sorrel]

probably too early to use the endgame guides ngl

[terse zodiac]

Ah, apparently one of the blueprints actually got built. I was able to remove it and go back down to 770/400. That's workable.

[bright zodiac]

can unlock more node or place the mining rig NOW asap

then for power, if you have spare LC battery, or SC battery

use it to multiple thermal bank, drop the blueprint (hopefully it includes batt production and done)

[gloomy scaffold]

I think I’m just about done for this patch. Had to limit xircon production by splitting off some of the ferrium. Using the extra ferrium to trickle out some meds. Battery production jumps up to 15 every hour when dense originium powder transfers

[terse zodiac]

A friend linked me a guide, since I finished Valley IV.

[ornate sorrel]

is an acid inlet good enough to sustain 4 reactors?

[terse zodiac]

No amethyst parts to make thermal banks. No power to make amethyst parts.

[distant bear]

You get like 2 from researching it don't you

If not just manual mine it 🗿

[bright zodiac]

. . . .
then... make amethyst parts

you also mention you barely had enough amethyst (the rest is on aburrey quarry, 2 node)

[terse zodiac]

How do I make amethyst parts without power?

[bright zodiac]

select all facility, press TAB

by turning all other unnecessary facility inactive FOR now

[terse zodiac]

I'm on controller.

[bright zodiac]

press.... toggle inactive facility on off

[vale topaz]

i want to test this too since 1 pump keep filling 2 units to max...

[terse zodiac]

I'm assuming "all facility" isn't the same as "facility list".

[bright zodiac]

just... bulk selection, select building, then you can toggle it on off the building

[terse zodiac]

Oh, that only turns off my factory buildings, which I have none of currently.

[gloomy scaffold]

On a PS5 controller tap L1 to enter multiselect. Select the buildings you want to turn off, then press L3

[terse zodiac]

I need a way to turn off my mines and such.

[gloomy scaffold]

Oh, nvm

[terse zodiac]

Still, thanks for letting me know this works. :D

[gloomy scaffold]

Can you pick up the power poles so they’re not powered anymore? Break the circuit

[bright zodiac]

99.9999% endmin out there, do not turning off their mining rig

you turn off the one on your base, bcs you said you absolutely need some power to make amethyst parts and to make THERmal bank

[vale topaz]

rather vising ore spot 1 by 1, delete main electrical tower from aic toward outside.
but that will also deactivate your zip line....
assuming only 1 electrical tower connecting aic toward outside area

[terse zodiac]

Oh, that could work.

[bright zodiac]

5 power saving on single mining rig

[terse zodiac]

How do I undo a connection?

[sterile stratus]

stash->replace

[terse zodiac]

Damn.

[sterile stratus]

what connection tho

i can only think of v4 relay

[terse zodiac]

That means I'll have to undo the connection both ways, then. Oh well.

[sterile stratus]

what no

if it's v4 relay you only have to stash and replace 1 side

[terse zodiac]

Idk what that is.

[sterile stratus]

well nvm

[gloomy scaffold]

Did you check your storage and backpack for a thermal bank? They should give you a few when you research it

[terse zodiac]

Yeah.

[tough berry]

btw how much bill we need to pay again? 40k 48k?

per hr in stock

[hidden temple]

36,288 + 10,080

[tough berry]

tmx

[valid ibex]

yay easy excess

[tough berry]

rip guess you cant go only selling battery

[hidden temple]

like a mil after all catalysts
pre 1.2 we had 3-4m+ excess

[quiet hedge]

should I lessen the yazhenA cuprium usage to give to hetonite production?

[shell hinge]

You can delete yazhen a

[tough berry]

you can either focus potion or teto

[terse zodiac]

Ah, my problem has been solved, I can apparently switch off base defence turrets for a bit.

[tough berry]

? base defences turrent 1 time only btw

[quiet hedge]

still should keep 12-3/m sc wuling for now right?

[tough berry]

ya the battery still wont get affected this update

[terse zodiac]

Do I not need to keep them there to keep the safety bonus?

[tough berry]

nope

[terse zodiac]

Damn.

[sterile stratus]

does this mean another jincao line

[shell hinge]

13.25/min sc batteries is best now

[tough berry]

here for now the max stuff 12 bats 6 heavy 9potion 3 old potion /4.5teto+1.5 old potion ferium transfer or go 15 battery via originium transfer

[terse zodiac]

Oh, apparently SC batteries are made the same way as LC batteries, just with ferrium parts instead of amethyst, and I have almost 2k ferrium parts.

[shell hinge]

That extra 1.25/min batteries has crazy value. It's worth 56.25/min cuprium

[vale topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/siege-tank-starcraft2-transfor-terran-deviantart-henryphung96-gif-16176441

if mortar cannon is a mobile unit

[tough berry]

i stay at my safe 12bat 6 heavy 9 pot 3 old potion than 13ahaha since dont want to use 4 valley battery i dont want to transfer each 3 days lel

[quiet hedge]

having ziplines on every map i need lots of power

[tough berry]

just make seperate line for zipline

so you can on and off it

[shell hinge]

Power is not worth that much lmao

People waaaaaaaay overvalue power

Power consumption does not impact stock bills until around 13k power used

[tough berry]

nah its affect time you need to manual transfer

[shell hinge]

That assumes no transferring

Wuling batteries only for power

[hidden temple]

I haven't revamped my base at all
all I've added is the 60/min yield worth of cupr into heto parts (after stockpiling 2k comps), and the 7+1 forge for xr/h.xr yield
and just that already seems to be breaking even

still 12/min SC, still 6/min yazh, and 2.75 yazh C down to 2.5

[tough berry]

oh no transfering rather not have that since the extra bills i gain per power bank i use is better be inside my pocket than be used

[hoary crag]

mobile sentries would be insane

also imagine if we get vehicles

[shell hinge]

🤦‍♀️ Did you even read what I said

[tough berry]

why it dont affect till 13k?

cause you dont pilesup stuff for next update?

[shell hinge]

Because we produce more materials than we can sell for stock bills

When the next update gives us more productive outposts, we also get the ability to produce even more materials

So saving up doesn't actually do anything because your production goes up when outpost production does

[tough berry]

but rather have that free 1 or 2 days where we can upgrade outpost faster

[marble yarrow]

just play your game and dont be such envious about how people can save batteries

you whine too much

[shell hinge]

If you mean prosperity, you don't need to do anything special to save for them. If you stop selling to let the outpost build up bills, you also build up your stockpile since your production is still running and you aren't selling

[small creek]

Saving up gives you leeway to setup your new factory

[shell hinge]

Apparently that won't be relevant soon?

[tough berry]

like qyuiri said

[quiet hedge]

I have half of the space left in core aic I should produce more xiranite there instead of in new outpost lol

[shell hinge]

They are adding a free power option

[small creek]

How so

[tough berry]

my stuff all gone onces update comes since need to adjust for day or 2

[small creek]

No thats not what i meant

Not power

[shell hinge]

No details yet beyond it's coming

[small creek]

You have to be able to exhaust the bills immediately for prosperity

[shell hinge]

People should choose based on accurate information. If someone wants to build stockpiles just to have a bigger number, that's their choice but they should make that choice knowing what they are doing

[small creek]

Bringing a 1.2 factory into 1.3 outposts is gonna leave u at a deficit

[shell hinge]

See above

[tough berry]

the sewage system im waiting that its frees me 200 power lel

[small creek]

Well then comps

You often have to sacrifice sellable items to make comps

[vale topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-armour-warhhammer40k-astra-militarum-imperial-guard-cannon-gif-17876371

i want a tank division

[tough berry]

i want rhodes island and we can use it as bump car uwu

[sterile stratus]

i have 15 ferrium to spare what should i do guys

smh mistype

[tough berry]

potion?

[small creek]

YazhenC every few days

[sterile stratus]

hm

[vale topaz]

jincao drink ?

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[vale topaz]

with meta trasnfer that's a whole ferrium ++

[marble yarrow]

i'll create a yazhen C line once the stocks are desirable enough to push a 6/min line

[sterile stratus]

yeah ok imma do dat

[sterile stratus]

meta transfer for ori block for lc bat

[vale topaz]

owh : /

[tough berry]

i miss 1.1 where we got no depot problem sigh

[small creek]

True

[sterile stratus]

i'm not sure if it's worth it

[shell hinge]

Producing comps lowers the threshold of power mattering so to speak. It'll go down from 13k. That said, component production being useful is also limited by artificing catalysts. At max catalyst limit, your power threshold goes down by around 200. For example, my 1/min cuprium component "costs" me 474 power from my max power consumption before losing stock bills.
In practice, only hetonite components consume enough resources to meaningfully impact resources and only really above catalyst limit

[small creek]

It is

Yk i used to share the same sentiment as u

stockpiling is useless

pwm is also useless, mainly cause we can always exhaust the outposts regardless

[silent violet]

whoa

what happened

[small creek]

Used to*

Im a changed man

[shell hinge]

Saving power is at current state a vanity project. I'm not opposed to vanity projects, but one should acknowledge them as such

[small creek]

I wanna stockpile everything now

[silent violet]

bruh

[marble yarrow]

y'all arent greedy enough

[small creek]

I want a lot of comps, a lot of parts (for turrets), a lot of batteries, etc

[shell hinge]

I'm currently stockpiling hetonite myself, which is definitely not going to be useful but I'm doing it for vanity

[silent violet]

i cant even stockpile cause i forget to empty my depot and cap out lmfao

[tough berry]

greed is life uwu stockpile having seeing your supply at max is good

[small creek]

But i will admit that i dont need my 58k xiranite or cuprium comps

[silent violet]

i been producing max since launch but i only have like 2k of each comp and like 20k batts

[small creek]

It is, in the end, just vanity

[quiet hedge]

I want new kind of explosive so a certain materials can be burnt to spam throw lol

for now we spraying fluids ig lol

[shell hinge]

25 hetonite parts per explosive

[small creek]

It also feels nice to have all the hetonite parts in the world

to make turrets at any time without sweating abt it

same with comps

[shell hinge]

I'm stockpiling specifically hetonite. I made a system that prioritizes filling depot with hetonite

[small creek]

Oh heto

[shell hinge]

It's for the event, which uses hetonite and not hetonite parts

[sterile stratus]

[small creek]

Its more flexible in that form i guess

[shell hinge]

I still make a small amount of hetonite parts for turrets and comps

[small creek]

Why so high..

Im only 4.32/4.5

[sterile stratus]

idk...

[marble yarrow]

time to cut it

[quiet hedge]

hetonite bottle is the new premium bottle to carry fluids

[shell hinge]

I'm at 7k power lmao

[tough berry]

bows down to god

of pwm

[small creek]

Cus u prepped 12 forge setup lol

[sterile stratus]

does turning off facilities lower power usage

[shell hinge]

Honestly the forges aren't that bad

[small creek]

Of course?

[quiet hedge]

item control port is handy here

[shell hinge]

The low tier facilities like refining/shredding use little power

[sterile stratus]

oh nice

now i can lower it to 6.16kw

[shell hinge]

What's hitting my power is the 120/min xircon I have lol

[marble yarrow]

no i dont want any more logistics in my all in one main AIC

[sterile stratus]

120 😭

[shell hinge]

Hey, you need at least 6 reactors for xircon anyway

I just added an extra line

[tough berry]

come join me at 3.450gang

[sterile stratus]

ok...

[small creek]

tf are u doing all the way down there

and how

[sterile stratus]

i wish they add a feature in which you can see the total power usage of the facilities you chose

[tough berry]

manual on and off button

of zipline

[small creek]

yea nah

[tough berry]

XD

[shell hinge]

Meanwhile I have my turrets connected to grid power lol

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vegetta-smirk

[sterile stratus]

imma manually calculate stuff to see why am i consuming more power than data centers

[tough berry]

but hrmm wonder how much minmax power we be needed at 1.3

[shell hinge]

In 1.1 I was at 4500 power and my depot maxed out on batteries before 1.2

Had to move 20k batteries to valley iv

I'm not worried about power use lol

[sterile stratus]

13 fluid pumps in aic is 130w hm

[marble yarrow]

my 1.1 incineration chamber still half battery spent

[shell hinge]

I use mk2 drills on originium and amethyst 😉

[small creek]

Did u add mortars

[sterile stratus]

do pylons and relays consume power

[shell hinge]

No

[tough berry]

dang you makes me want to raid your base and replace all with mk 1

[sterile stratus]

oh that's good to know

[marble yarrow]

not yet, maybe imma change this,

SINCE I DONT KNOW WHEN THE FUCK THEY MADE THE ENEMIES CAPABLE TO ESCAPE MY PRISONS

[shell hinge]

Mortars are so cool but so not actually that useful

[small creek]

Mortars are new bis in all alluvium, combined with flame or beam

[tough berry]

really? i feel like mortal to op

[shell hinge]

They have very good range but aren't better than acid for dmg

[sterile stratus]

45 ziplines in city should be 225

[small creek]

You only need 1 acid

[tough berry]

they can wipeout the new essences boss in 1 combo

[shell hinge]

Acid are super op, you use them just for dmg

[marble yarrow]

yeah they die before they finish their spawn anim

[sterile stratus]

how do people stay at 4k power 😭

[small creek]

The previous highest dps turret was tesla at 3 targets, which is a fairly common scenario

Mortar at 2 targets is almost double dps

[tough berry]

proper setup

[shell hinge]

Acid are better than mortars for dps

[marble yarrow]

no BS setup

[sterile stratus]

ok

[valid ibex]

some people apparently don't use turrets nor ziplines, also

weirdos

[small creek]

Have u timed both acid and mortar setups

Im curious how youre convinced abt acid

Cus im convinced with mortar

[tough berry]

hey i use turrent with battery while easy put on and off pylon on zipline

[small creek]

Mortar is generally 1min clear time for reference

[marble yarrow]

realized its impossible for me, since if i isolate my ziplines, i would have to add relays to isolate the pumps for miners, im at 512/512 already 😭

[small creek]

Except power plateau, somehow its 45 seconds

[sterile stratus]

pls help me

[shell hinge]

On paper, mortars have higher dps. The problem is overkill and synced shots. Mortars waste a lot of dmg overkilling enemies, especially because they tend to sync up. This looks cool when enemies get obliterated by a dozen mortar shots at once, but actually wastes a lot of dmg when less shots would have sufficed. The synced shot behavior also results in worse performance when enemies spread out due to mortars tending to focus on one enemy at a time

[tough berry]

rip how you got 512 im only at 240

[small creek]

Oh thats what youre worried abt

Okay well theres a fix for that

Dont do all mortar

[shell hinge]

In actual setups a combo of acid, fire, beam, and one mortar performed best

[small creek]

no overkill

Yea thats what i do

[valid ibex]

do you straight up place 10 mortars

[small creek]

Mortar + beam, or mortar + fire, sometimes theres acid

[marble yarrow]

its a whole wuling city facility limit, not protocol cap

[shell hinge]

I do still use a mortar because they have very high range, makes em great for picking off stragglers. Acid are the main aoe dps source though

Power plataeu in particular has shield guys that love to get knocked out of turret range

[severe sleet]

since purification unit pumps out prec acid, would it be possible to form a closed loop pipe from purification unit back to reactor crucible? or we still need to put it back to the acid swamp

[tough berry]

try eeplace all your mining with water first and do this setup 6mining rigs for low resources 3 mining rig for high resources per water pump

[valid ibex]

yeah still how in the absolute fuck

[small creek]

Ill just say

[tough berry]

ya i mean im at 240

at wuling city

[small creek]

my current mortar setups neither overkill nor underkill

[shell hinge]

Gas is also still the absolute goat

[sterile stratus]

even that it shouldn't be too high... i think i used 1-2 pumps for mines only

[tough berry]

while all my facility at wuling only

my tang tang and new map empty lel

[sacred berry]

of course, im doing this

[valid ibex]

no like, if i get it right they're talking about that weird limit that includes pipes, logistics stuff and all that

[vale topaz]

how spammy is the protocol stash at your place ?

[sacred berry]

as long as the output only supplies 1 crucible

[valid ibex]

not protocol limit you can actually see

[tough berry]

off all tower? and replace with battery

[marble yarrow]

240 in this?

[sterile stratus]

i think this should be the case...

[tough berry]

ah

[tough berry]

ya

[marble yarrow]

this how my main aic looks like at it consumes most of the 512 fac limit

[valid ibex]

still, capping out 512 limit is sanityless behaviour

[severe sleet]

so it's somewhat like valley4 plants loop but its for liquids now

[tardy bridge]

Time to grow the factory

[tardy bridge]

WHAT IS THAT

[marble yarrow]

all in one shi

[tardy bridge]

And my bigger question

You can MOVE the main AIC post ?

[marble yarrow]

fr

[valid ibex]

HG PLEASE GIVE US A "SCREENSHOT AIC AREA" BUTTON WHAT THE FUCK