aic-factory

[shadow void]

the fact they made acid damage, and yazhen/jincao heal. hopefully they are cooking

[carmine whale]

do we use splitter or converger on these type of places?

[pulsar willow]

converger makes it so liquids go through one output

you need a splitter if you want to supply other mining rigs

[shadow void]

converger is 3 pipes into 1, splitter the opposite

[vast iron]

They knew what we would do

Also sewage hurts if you find one of the natural pools

[nova lodge]

waiting for nuclear waste :3

[shadow void]

I really hope they do something with the liquids

[vast iron]

1.4: liquid blight

Jump in = take 1000 dmg / s

[shadow void]

Spray drone? How about Spray Bazooka

[nova lodge]

lul, using liquid blight for production?
much pog.

[vast iron]

Bro where is my liquid heavy processed stabilized dense xircon powder

[shadow void]

Hyper Mega Spray Launcher

[nova lodge]

its called hyper beam laser tower

[vast iron]

Mortar > laser

[nova lodge]

from your's trully, viseroy zhuang :3

[vast iron]

#1 mortar glazer

[nova lodge]

yeah, mortar is hella good, even outdps the widely used sniper tower.

[shadow void]

well that mortar is only one step away from what we built in the prelude/begining of the game

[nova lodge]

grand cannon tower....but the space requirement though....

[vast iron]

Some people hate on mortar

[nova lodge]

might not be able to use it in some areas.

[vast iron]

Idk why

[shadow void]

Mortar is great because its range is massive

[nova lodge]

mortar is too good that it generates hate ;v

[shadow void]

and AoE

just wish we could add some kind of delay to them

[vast iron]

Yess

Synced bombardment is less cool than rain of shells

[shadow void]

Yes plz

[nova lodge]

welp, time to do my dailies and nuke my base later.

yes, rain of shells x15 towers is hella amazing

[vast iron]

Recommendation when rebuilding your base, try to avoid sending xiranite to the depot and just belt it to the next step of the production process
The reason will be revealed soon.

[nova lodge]

the thing is though....depite how big the tower were, they still only took the same 3 protocol capacity lol

[vast iron]

Yes i am doing advertising

[nova lodge]

hmm...i will try fiddling with them later and see what happens as i adjust.

[shadow void]

Elaborate

[vast iron]

-# impending doom approaches.

wink

[nova lodge]

[marsh inlet]

Just finished campaign, WHY IS THE CUPRIUM LIQUID 4 TO ONEEEE

😭

FAHHHH

[shadow void]

having xiranite in the depot is bad. . .

[vast iron]

It isnt, but it will be.

wink

[marsh inlet]

Ima have to redo my entire factory

Excited and sad

[shadow void]

how cooked am I

[green elbow]

ITS JOVER

[marsh inlet]

Unless ur using a limiter and those numbers are skewed, fucked

[vast iron]

wink

[marsh inlet]

I recommend limiting the uses of xiranite where u dont need it

[shadow void]

Xiranite is being over consumed by Xiranite Components, the Heavy isnt being used cuz i'm not making Heta Comps

[nova lodge]

on a separate note.
literally near impossible to find wulling depot deliveries now.

filter function too overpowered.

[marsh inlet]

Like if youre making liquid for bottled xiranite, split some of it back into the depot

Could I see someones carbon sector of their factory perchance?

Starting to think this wasnt worth it

[shadow void]

perfect

[marsh inlet]

Look it works ok

Lol

I mightve used like

6 or 7 sets of input output lines

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

Eyyy u did it too

Maybe..

[shadow void]

Yep

freed up all the space in Marker Stone aic

[marsh inlet]

Just tell me how much sandleaf ill be needing to grow now

[shadow void]

a lot?

[marsh inlet]

T-T

What even is the most effecient placement for bulk sandleaf

Ive been just doing L shapes

And like

Slotting them into eachother

[mighty yacht]

i just do this when i need a crapload of farms

[marsh inlet]

That actually looks way cleaner than my route

[mighty yacht]

the only real annoyance is the belts on the edges

[marsh inlet]

Yeahhh

Probably better than this tho

[mighty yacht]

well it depends on the situation but ig so

yours is useful if you're tight on space and need just one farm

[shadow void]

Say we didnt need to make Heavy Xiranite for Hetanite. Would we just go all in on Yazhen A? Is selling Heavy Xirante and Hetanite Parts better than making Yazhen A?

[mighty yacht]

heavy sells at 27 and A sells at 22 or 25

and heavy is alot easier to make than A

[carmine whale]

is this jst a visual thing? that splitter dosent look like its connectewd

[shadow void]

Dunno, looks cursed tho

[mighty yacht]

most likely visual

[nova lodge]

its just visual really....but yeah, endfield tech going WIFI

[shadow void]

Hetanite Parts also sell for 48

[carmine whale]

for some reason some are like this

ah visual then

[marsh inlet]

Trying to find a more optimal placement than this, cant seem to find it

Why do all roads go back to straight line

[nova lodge]

jezus, finding wulling deliveries now is like winning the lottery lul

[marsh inlet]

[shadow void]

Basically, is the Cuprium ore better spent on Yahzen A or Heta Parts for stock bills

[marsh inlet]

U just have to replace the line

[mighty yacht]

well thats what SC batts are for, plus isn't hetanite like a long chain? i havent gotten to making it yet

[mighty yacht]

thats why the saying is "on the straight and narrow" not bent

[shadow void]

Its a alittle complex. Don't think SC batts cover all of the stock bill creation of the outposts

think its like 10k/h shy

I know the Heta Parts/Hvy Xir can cover the rest then some, but is going all in on Yazhen A better?

[sudden kelp]

How do i get the temporary inf power

my aic needs it D:

[marsh inlet]

Seed spiral seeming pretty good tbh

[shadow void]

good question

[mighty yacht]

if het parts are the same yield as A syringes then its probably worth to build het parts, but if not then go syringes

[glad needle]

what should i do with the excess xinarite chat?

the other 30/m more xinarite

[shadow void]

I dont remember my pre-patch Yazhen A numbers

[mighty yacht]

eat it

[sudden kelp]

Also

[shadow void]

craft Xiranite Comps

[sudden kelp]

How do you split stacks?

[glad needle]

huh?

which one

ohh

[glad needle]

Ye

[mighty yacht]

we dont have enough oregano for that tho unless you do like 10/min batt

[empty furnace]

whats needed to fulfill the daily wuling bill outpost cap this patch?

[marsh inlet]

Nah im just overcomplicating it

[shadow void]

V4 production

[mighty yacht]

arent we always with these factroy layouts

[fringe owl]

Was it possible to fullfill the daily limit last patch :0 i cant remember cus i could naver empty it

[empty furnace]

yes

[shadow void]

yes

I think it was 12/m SC bats and 6/m Yazhen A

[fringe owl]

I js had 2 big battery things and syringe a, that should have been enough right

[shadow void]

was it 6/m Yahzen?

[empty furnace]

i wanna redo my whole wuling facilities but i dont feel like mathing out the needed products to build for lol. anyone got that info ready?

[shadow void]

Thats all I had and i was capping it, 12/m SC bats is like 35k bills an hour

[fringe owl]

I always felt broke on wuling money

[shadow void]

Sky King flats outpost produces 36k an hour

so if you were making 12/m bats you should of been fine aslong as you sold something else

[glad needle]

its 180 xinarite and 180 Cuprium so

[fringe owl]

This patch is it even efficient to go for heavy xiranite? It uses 3 sky forges total, 2 for xiranite right?

I didnt check how quickly it produces

I forgor the ones for the liquid stuff

Either way it makes it hard for me to use my batteries

[teal crescent]

Do u need to protect your installation with turrets after building them ?

[glad needle]

its either 12/m wulbat+9 yahzen+6/m xinarite comp
or
12/m wulbat, 2.25/m heto comp

[shadow void]

46,368 stock bills an hour is what both Wuling outposts make atm. 12/m bats, 1.5/m consumption, 54 stock bills per. thats 34,020 on bats

[marsh inlet]

U have a water plant version of this?

[subtle finch]

ive been blessed with this layout
just enough space to split ferrium dust to 22.5 and 7.5 for the 1.25 sc bat

[vapid granite]

We still can only place 3 ferrium?

[marsh inlet]

How many forges of the sky do you guys save for heavy xiranite production vs plain xiranite production?

[mighty yacht]

no, i usually try to incorporate the wataer farms into the line itself, but its basically the same thing

[subtle finch]

1-7

[marsh inlet]

damn kk

[mighty yacht]

just add like a water outlet in the empty space and route the pipes to make it symm

[marsh inlet]

Glad to know half my farm finna just be plants

[shadow void]

So i need to sell something else to make up that 12,363 stock bills an hour. I make 12,960 in Heta Parts, and 9,720 in Hvy Xiranite

[marsh inlet]

Btw the new pump outflow things with 2 lines can feed 4 things at once right?

2 per line?

[shadow void]

The manifold move 4/s

[marsh inlet]

So 2 per line

Kk

[shadow void]

yeah

[marsh inlet]

Awesome

[carmine whale]

380 max yield on originium in wuling at max regional level?

[empty furnace]

480

[carmine whale]

Ehh where tf did my yield go why am I at 380

[marsh inlet]

Maybe ur missing a node?

Sometimes they grow as u rankup

[carmine whale]

If I'm missing when we go to map it shows top left right?? I do t remember any I'll check again

[vapid granite]

I swear the biggest thing that makes me build more than i do for my factory is when i dont realize that a product is shredded/refined/molded into 2-3 pieces

[marsh inlet]

I think u just hover over the ore on the map

[empty furnace]

just to make sure, when you say ur at 380 yield ur looking at the theoretical data not current data right?

[shadow void]

Also make roughly 1/m Yazhen C, all in all i'm making ~57,660 stock bills an hour worth of product. and 11,277 over what the outposts produce, which is 6k more than i was making last patch if my calculations are right

[digital vessel]

Truly one of the factories of all time. I accidentily placed a relay and now it's just part of the decor

[fringe owl]

All this content and we are still broke asf :(

[shadow void]

12/m bats (minus ~1.5/m usage) + 6/m Hvy Xiranite + ~4.5/m Heta Parts + ~1/m Yahzen C

the only thing I need right now

[green elbow]

how do you only use 1.5m batteries? i'm at close to 2.5/m

well.. 2.1 or something, at 4.7k power

[shadow void]

i'm at 4,800 pwr

[green elbow]

oh..i only use sc

[shadow void]

Valley IV bills are near worthless at this point

but i still over produce bats

[green elbow]

i dont anymore, after 1.2 for some reason..i'm slowly losing them

[shadow void]

i've got 74k HC Valley bats in Valley IV, and 63k in wuling

at this point i could just switch to pure HC valley bats in wuling too

[green elbow]

yea i also dont want to manual transfer long term. i do have like 20k of them just in case, but yea. not necessary anyway as we make an excess of batteries still

[shadow void]

using 5.5/m HC Valley bats in Valley IV, producing 18/m, i'd use like 11/m in both areas. I'd survive 209 hours on what i have atm

[subtle finch]

13.25/min of sc bat was a lot simpler than i thought
i can't believe i procrastinated this

[shadow void]

Since I over produce in Valley IV, i'm almost always at 30m stock bills. so i'll let my batteries or buck A back up and manual transfer orginium or ferrium over to wuling

[green elbow]

yup, i'm using about 6/min in valley.

[shadow void]

whats your ferrium like? what else do you produce?

hows your power

[subtle finch]

4,4k atm, but could be a lot lower

[uneven aspen]

last time i did the math. I'm using 5 thermal banks of HC valley aka 7.5/m of it

still have 3.5/m surplus to transfer over to wuling enough for 2 thermal banks.

[shadow void]

2.25 Hetonite Parts

[shadow void]

ah your making comps, and thats shown in your first pic. well not shown, but implyed thru the 2.25 parts

[nova lodge]

i pray that....endfield doesn't reach a certain space online game level of complexity....

[green elbow]

I still dont know why my valley 4 is running out of material to sell

i havne't found any reddit posts yet

[uneven aspen]

no indications you have minmax optimize so at worse it's highschool level math of complexity so far

[subtle finch]

they (devs) said something about this (wuling) is as far as complexity goes, they don't plan to make things harder

[nova lodge]

the maths are fine, but getting used to the production chain does takes a while after every update
(and the need to nuke the base too)

[green elbow]

yea i still produce the 18/m x2..but they sell faster

[shadow void]

probably just introduce new things to make in the same way

[uneven aspen]

so if someone makes a productions calculator tool which also shows profits, that should be easily able to use

actually surprised none of the website tools have it

it's all been spreadsheets

that i've seen of it

[shadow void]

if you make that, you should be fine, if you are not fine, what all are you buying every week

[green elbow]

its not about what i'm buying, its selling the items to the outposts, my stock is running down instead of up like it used to

[shadow void]

at a certain point the only thing to buy with V4 stock bills are the Valley Engraving Permits

[marsh inlet]

This works for wuling plants but this cant possibly be optimal

Send help

Lol

[torn sedge]

Hello AIC Wizards. The Factory must always grow.

I have reached a point in time where I have to update my factory once again for the new update but is now faced with the fact that I don't exactly have the time to handcraft things to get things done.

I'm wondering if anyone has a Ytube video or guide that they'll recommend to follow on getting things set up for the new stuff

[shadow void]

Outposts produce 119,532/h stock bills, assume 13/m HC bats 54,600/h, 18/m Buck A 75,600/h, 24/h Citrom C 14,400/h

[trail fulcrum]

Can you guys tell me why my cuprium yield dropped to 178 instead of 180 (per PACS report)?

I just checked all my mining rigs and they’re working perfectly

[shadow void]

with just Bats and Buck A you should be hitting over outpost limit

[south oasis]

whats the difference between liquids that can and cant be "discharged"

[shadow void]

whats your Cuprium stock levels

[marsh inlet]

Just a guess but could you be at max cuprium in storage?

[south oasis]

if it caps then theyre stuck

[shadow void]

if its anywhere near 68k thats the limit

[south oasis]

until consumed

[shadow void]

Yeild will match consumption at that point

[trail fulcrum]

Stuck?

[glad needle]

how do you make 13 sc wulbat with 480/m ori?

[trail fulcrum]

Caps?

[shadow void]

transfers of Originium from V4

[south oasis]

limit

[trail fulcrum]

No I don’t think so… i’ll check

[torn sedge]

I guess not huh

[shadow void]

Cup is capped

[subtle finch]

[glad needle]

but they only use 480 ori

[shadow void]

you have 68k

[glad needle]

xd

[south oasis]

._.

[trail fulcrum]

Oh I guess I can up the yazhen line again then

Silly me

Thanks

[subtle finch]

i transfer dense ori cubes, they dont track in aic report as ores

[quartz cargo]

I just started making the new yazen syringe too, was pretty easy, just swap to the new mineral and add some sewage

[glad needle]

wat

[quartz cargo]

Its basically the same as the old syringe, but with the other mineral.

[shadow void]

his extra 1sc bat uses cubes from V4

[quartz cargo]

I was going to make the new gear but started with this

[marsh inlet]

Does anyone else have a better design for wuling plants thus far?

[glad needle]

i forgor how to use this

where do you use this

[quartz cargo]

im making that part in the new area, but maybe i should transfer it. I transfer sand leafs or something

[marsh inlet]

Same I lowkey just ignore it

[glad needle]

ah

[shadow void]

. . . also brings up the regular AIC Report menu

[graceful kayak]

Need a BP to max print heavy xaronite to the fullest.

[shadow void]

what you gonna do with it all?

[glad needle]

So i guess you channel 1 unloader for 1 sc wulbat?

[graceful kayak]

Absolute nuggets bollocks 67 67 maxxing sahur sahur

what other words are Gen Z using?

to ask for a favor

[shadow void]

fr fr

[subtle finch]

1.25, it's huge profit

[glad needle]

1 unloader?

[subtle finch]

nah, i pwm

[shadow void]

5,250 stockbills an hour

[graceful kayak]

My dragon girl needs a ton for her team

And she deserves the best

I’m currently doing a pity 8/min

[subtle finch]

wulbat sounds something that would give me covid

[south oasis]

what are dischargeable and non-dischargeable liquids?

[shadow void]

I'm already making atleast +11k Stock bills profit, i'm good

[marsh inlet]

Type shi? Idk im 23 now

[river wadi]

Anything that can go in a treatment unit isnt dischargeable

[subtle finch]

if you can treat it, you can't discharge it afaik

[graceful kayak]

You’re an Unc now

[marsh inlet]

Yuppp

[green elbow]

can't you just use a normal conduit for that?

[south oasis]

yeah. so what do i have to do with the disachargeable ones

[marsh inlet]

Still gen z

[river wadi]

Dump it back in the world

[shadow void]

Yahzen/Jincao Solution says hi

[marsh inlet]

Ye but this one has 4 per

[river wadi]

you can discharge those

[south oasis]

oh right whats the thing you use for that

[river wadi]

also learn iff

[river wadi]

Fluid supply unit

[subtle finch]

when can you treat yazhen/jincao?

[south oasis]

ah yeah

ah that makes sense

[shadow void]

May have that backwards. . .Can you treat Cup/Heto Solution

[south oasis]

never had to use it beyond that quest before

[green elbow]

4 buildings = 2 pumps = 1 normal conduit

[marsh inlet]

You could do something like this maybe 1 sec

[deft orbit]

🤨

[green elbow]

mine is just along the edge of my main aic and perpendicular to the river, so i just send 2 pumps straight up without conduits for mine. and my design is quite slim and vertical

[shadow void]

I guess treatment isnt all encompassing

[river wadi]

Wth is that

[shadow void]

you cant treat Cup/Heto Solution. Nor Yahzen/Jincao. But you can discharge the latter, but not the former.

[marsh inlet]

Just trying to incorporate the new pump system xD

[marsh inlet]

Limiter!

[shadow void]

I think I need to leave the building now

[pulsar willow]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-rant-amogus-stop-posting-about-among-us-stop-posting-gif-21710838

[green elbow]

it looks like a robot

[subtle finch]

squint your eyes

[river wadi]

[pulsar willow]

https://tenor.com/view/it-gute-nacht-not-gluten-nacht-gluten-nacht-gute-nacht-gif-11419817225655515471

[shadow void]

I'ma hafta start blockin' you ppl

[pulsar willow]

ඞ

[shadow void]

whats the upcoming AIC event gonna be

[marsh inlet]

Could I see it?

[grave veldt]

Rebuild everything back into Yatzene drink 4Head

[vast iron]

fuck everything you just made, you must now make bottled light xircon yazhen cuprium solution syringe

[shadow void]

I've got a whole area thats empty, i can just turn my production off and make whats needed

[marsh inlet]

I just wanna bottle some acid to pour it on random civilians

[shadow void]

i wanted to sprinkle the bosses

[vast iron]

ive tried

turrets dont carry over into the domains

[marsh inlet]

Give neffy a shower

One of gold you might say

[grave veldt]

Petition for domain expansion to helidrop all those turrets on our location

[vast iron]

just spray xiranite (its super effective!)

[shadow void]

Well you cant say THAT

those two words dont mix

[vast iron]

YES

[subtle finch]

it's gonna be a child's play just xiranite

[marsh inlet]

Just like the start of the game lol

[vast iron]

endmin alter ability should be to just summon 20 turrets

[marsh inlet]

Leaks?

[subtle finch]

casuals already hate making comps, they can't make it hard

[shadow void]

Whats theh first thing in the second line, xirantie bottle

[marsh inlet]

Casuals can legitimately copy paste blueprints from their favorite youtuber

[shadow void]

Xiranite > Xiranite Part > Xiranite Bottle + Xiranite Bottle = Macguffin

[grave veldt]

Take a shot every time someone clog expanded crucible with sewage

[subtle finch]

you just need xiranite to make all of them, nothing else.

[marsh inlet]

Ah yes

Truly the endgame

Xiranite in a xiranite bottle

[shadow void]

Gonna start giving everyone micro-xiranite

[marsh inlet]

Lowkey wonder what the next gimmick gonna be

Yall think we melting stuff next time?

[subtle finch]

probably snow and heat

[marsh inlet]

Fire instead of water

Yh

[shadow void]

gotta be, unless we get some phase-change

[subtle finch]

they've been hinting kjerag themed region

[marsh inlet]

Yeah

[tall tangle]

gas in snowland

[grave veldt]

TGCC (or whatever is Kazimier 2.0 name was) factorio drone factory

[marsh inlet]

Better bombs incoming

[shadow void]

condensors, compressors, evaporators

[vast iron]

sounds like supersoldiers

they gonna be swimming in blight like its nothing

[marsh inlet]

Lol

[vast iron]

bottled mortar

[tepid wigeon]

We gonna be at 12 forges by the time this event starts right?

[marsh inlet]

Anyways, can I see someones wuling plant farm

[vast iron]

our current bomb damage is pathetic

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

FACTS BRO

[vast iron]

that big of an explosion for only 1,300 dmg or smt

what a wase

[marsh inlet]

I wanna introduce these slimes to japan

[vast iron]

waste

and you cant even throw them in combat

[shadow void]

what was that pic for

[vast iron]

like

whats the point???

[shadow void]

the AIC event or Curious use of Xiranite

[tepid wigeon]

Blow up walls and rocks that's it

They also explode the rocks in etch

[marsh inlet]

Pls

[tepid wigeon]

And rock mats

[tall tangle]

sure

[marsh inlet]

I mean like

Yaz

[vast iron]

its pathetic

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

i want to throw bombs at my enemies

who wouldnt

[shadow void]

you cant?

[marsh inlet]

You arent even making fancy attack stew??

[vast iron]

not during combat

[marsh inlet]

Wym yes u can

[vast iron]

cant spawn bombs while in combat

before yes

also spraying acid on enemies should give them defense shred

[shadow void]

Why make fancy attack stew when special yahzen powder works just fine

[marsh inlet]

I meant like, this

[tall tangle]

haven't met anyone worthy of that yet

[vast iron]

whatdafak am i looking at

[marsh inlet]

Attempt at wuling plants

[vast iron]

bro wants holograms

iykyk

[marsh inlet]

Speed killing bosses?

[shadow void]

hmmm

[tall tangle]

if you hold mouse button on boss for few less seconds it will sure save the world

[marsh inlet]

It gives me a shiny badge

[tall tangle]

thats how much i like combat in this game. thats why i'm in aic mostly

[vast iron]

waiting for my shiny aic badge (gold)

[vast iron]

b-based!

aic bossfight when (trust)

[marsh inlet]

[ruby sorrel]

do we have to build turret production lines within 2min or the boss kills you?

also no overhead view

[subtle finch]

RE-Crisis:Sewage Clog

[vast iron]

recrisis: your xiranite is a 209 instead of 210

[marsh inlet]

Wait why does a like

"Fix this line"

Challange for exp sound fun

[ruby sorrel]

cus you've never actually had to fix other ppl's shit

[vast iron]

real recrisis would be a power shutdown

[marsh inlet]

I have

[vast iron]

[vast iron]

never done #1461542035617091681 bugfixing??

[tall tangle]

because factory haters blueprint copiers will burn in thousands

[ruby sorrel]

that's gross

I only bugfix my own factories

[vast iron]

nah just make it either
fight hard enemy
do hard circuit

same reward

[marsh inlet]

Blueprint copiers trying to decide which plant to grow

[vast iron]

guys is this 3-farm setup sandleaf or yazhen

[ruby sorrel]

discovering wuling carbon path

[vast iron]

[marsh inlet]

Anyways

Hand over ur plant setup

[vast iron]

ive done so much aic my instincts can tell me what plant to grow

[marsh inlet]

Im not gonna copy just want inspiration

[tall tangle]

that actually sounds more kind and reasonable

[marsh inlet]

Bcs mine looks like this

And if u dont want me using this

[vast iron]

yeah thats it

[marsh inlet]

Horrifying creation

[vast iron]

get out of #aic-factory

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

we dont want you here (jk)

[marsh inlet]

Its fugly

But its my own

Fuly

Fugly*

Creation

[subtle finch]

have you seen my lossless planters?

[marsh inlet]

No

[vast iron]

fuck is a lossless planter

[vast iron]

i dont want to fill my depot with useless plants

[marsh inlet]

This^

[shrewd knoll]

so cursed

[marsh inlet]

Hey thats not wuling plants

[vast iron]

suspicious depot setup

[ruby sorrel]

liar that's a loss planter

[marsh inlet]

The almost accidental swastic*

[ruby sorrel]

I can't believe you've done this

[vast iron]

wait...

PATTERN RECOGNITION

[ruby sorrel]

LOL

[vast iron]

I Il
II I_

or whatever it was

[marsh inlet]

Is this fine tho? Feels awful routing the lines all the way round

Trying a line ish design rn

But its long

[tall tangle]

look at my ugly child

[marsh inlet]

Prettier than my ugly child

[ruby sorrel]

I need a daisy chained wuling plant layout

[vast iron]

wh-wHY ARE YOU SHREDDING BEFORE DEPOING

someone execute them

[marsh inlet]

I was gonna say that-

[ruby sorrel]

one day I'll actually work on it but I alr shoved 6 forges into pac, why would I ever need a multiwuling loop

[marsh inlet]

But I was scared to be wrong

[vast iron]

trust your guts

you have potential

[dreamy jungle]

i did it, made an 8 forge https://enkad.enka.network/?id=p2p4x2J5m1f3Y4

[tall tangle]

cuz i'm weird like that

[lament turtle]

-# Just do it the lazy way: feed into a stash that feeds into a shredder that feeds into a stash.

[vast iron]

who hurt you

[vast iron]

you. die.

[vast iron]

also, dang so optimal you had space for pixel art

[marsh inlet]

Show me ur plants

[dreamy jungle]

ye was surprised

[vast iron]

denied, all my plants are integrated

[subtle finch]

[frank wave]

should i have 2 hetonite tracks lead into a single fitting unit to keep up with the hetonite component making?

[marsh inlet]

This is how I used to do it but it looked ugly and chaotic

[vast iron]

i punish you to joining #1495816858350125066

dont come back until youve read everything

[vast iron]

ugly is good

who needs symmetry

who needs organization

[marsh inlet]

I do

[vast iron]

youre pathetic

:3

[uneven aspen]

Just wanting to make sure, can an expanded crucible do hetonite and cuprium solution in one?

[vast iron]

yes

go for it

[subtle finch]

yes

[uneven aspen]

Im making space for the new testing area, so need space for the hetonite production and 3 forges at the 2nd outpost so space savings are needed

[subtle finch]

ive got just the bp if you want

[fervent spoke]

without symmetry there is no spaghetti

[vast iron]

"because spaghetti tastes better than symmetry"

[uneven aspen]

thanks but i will try to figure out on my own first

[marsh inlet]

Bros factory

[vast iron]

close enough

one sec lmme open game

[marsh inlet]

This is the goal

Endfield endgame

[vast iron]

here is my perfectly organized stashless 6 forge setup

isnt it beautiful

[marsh inlet]

Why is your battery red

[vast iron]

pwm

[ruby sorrel]

why are your arrows so big

[subtle finch]

i'll pretend i didnt see that

[vast iron]

mobile

[vast iron]

i will force feed your eyes

[marsh inlet]

Show urs then

XD

[marsh inlet]

I have arrived

[vast iron]

yall remember when PWM used to be square

ive spaghettified pwm too

[ruby sorrel]

needs more belts

[marsh inlet]

Its perfect fym

[vast iron]

you have no say here

spaghetti is law

[marsh inlet]

Lol

[ruby sorrel]

more belts

[tall tangle]

this guy is probably sankta. ignore him

[ruby sorrel]

I should update the img so the last xiranite line is actually full

[vast iron]

i am an agent of chaos

[fervent spoke]

thats heresy

[marsh inlet]

Other one is prettier

[vast iron]

mine is obviously the best

wym

[marsh inlet]

I dont like urs because it looks like mine

[shadow hound]

im dumb why cant my purification unit maximize output even with two cuprium solution pipes going in?

[marsh inlet]

And I want mine to look like his

[subtle finch]

you need 4 crucible's worth

[shadow hound]

so a converger?

[keen river]

yep

[vast iron]

we are in sync

it was meant to be

[subtle finch]

a passthrough is better

[vast iron]

both work

[subtle finch]

converger if you want spaghetti

[vast iron]

Hikarin is being a bad example
we dont need an extra beauty constraint when factory is hard already

[vast iron]

say that again?

[marsh inlet]

Lol

[vast iron]

[dreamy jungle]

u already had a 3 forge and not able to make it smaller?

[subtle finch]

yeah it wont work

[marsh inlet]

Spaghetti lowkey could do it tbh

[vast iron]

you deny the spaghetti. witness the consequences

[fervent spoke]

sushi belts when

[keen river]

im pretty sure 7 forges self contained isnt possible

[vast iron]

it has already been done

lol

[keen river]

was it

last one i seen used external planters

[vast iron]

??

no

[dreamy jungle]

[vast iron]

^ this goat did one too

2nd goat besides leander

[keen river]

or was it 8 forge with planters outside

[ruby sorrel]

I guess if you really want a depot instead of belts

[vast iron]

why u doing 8 forges

[ruby sorrel]

stashless is impossible?

[keen river]

nice

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

i think i saw a post

[dreamy jungle]

possible

but didnt want to do from scratch

[ruby sorrel]

but putting a 7th pump there is ugly too

[vast iron]

right

this one

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495778524760641596

[marsh inlet]

Holy

[subtle finch]

conduits are invalid in my book, im a pipe purist

[ruby sorrel]

ah yeah you have to abandon the "symmetry"

[native geode]

Is it possible to make heavy liquid xiranite bottles? ( not factory savy but having trouble figuring it out ) and if so does anyone have a bp recommendation?

[marsh inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[vast iron]

its wireable without conduits

[real crescent]

its funny how you can see excactly where i gave up and just dumped the sewage into a conduit

[keen river]

this blueprint doesnt even need the conduit

[real crescent]

i really wish waste treatment wasnt 1/2 seconds

[keen river]

its just placed there for no reason

[ruby sorrel]

it's not even even splitting why conduit

[subtle finch]

it's quite an involved process for a beginner to get there

7 xiranite production->sc batteries -> inert purification -> heavy xiranite -> filling unit bottle

you can take a shortcut but i dont think anyone have made a bp for it

4 xiranite -> heavy xiranite and effluent -> filling unit

[uneven aspen]

do I only need 8 crucibles and 2 purification for 100% hetonite?

then the 2 purification can feedback acid to 2 of the crucibles?

[dull shard]

Help. How to dump xircon effluent just partially

[keen river]

if your goal is just to make heavy liquid xiranite bottles then you dont need like 90% of work you listed here tho

[vast iron]

3*

[dull shard]

And automatically

[crimson inlet]

everyday, we strive further to dump sewage in a pond

(if we can)

[subtle finch]

it's gonna be slow as heck, but yeah, i mentioned you can definitely take a shortcut

[vast iron]

yes, you would need 3 pumps

[marsh inlet]

@vast iron youll approve of this, my first xiranite line

Its so bad

[vast iron]

its pushing us to finish the project
wink

[vast iron]

looks perfect

approved

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

you could move the lines closer tho

[marsh inlet]

Probably

[crimson inlet]

I won't ABANDON BEAUTY

[marsh inlet]

I had plenty of space tho

And no need for it

[marsh inlet]

Ill eventually remove it all

[keen river]

tbh with enka's guy all-in-one heavy+xircon i think its actually fairly easy

[marsh inlet]

[crimson inlet]

I like dis

[marsh inlet]

I do too, unfortunately I make things that look like this

[subtle finch]

you can be the one who make that shortcut for them

[marsh inlet]

.

[crimson inlet]

my past hetonite setup ---> current one

[keen river]

i mean, at the end of day

they will be better off pasting a bunch of ready-made blueprints

[marsh inlet]

Facts

[subtle finch]

realistically, if you know how to do it quickly, you'll do it the right way lol

[keen river]

even if they do a shortcut they still need to power it somehow etc

[crimson inlet]

You need to learn how to make it before you decide on how to use a blueprint

[vast iron]

import from v4

[keen river]

plus wuling production chains are sort of a tangled mess

[vast iron]

you cant possibly need that much heavy xira

[crimson inlet]

blueprint is like a sticker that adds to the whole diary

[keen river]

due to sewage production being limited to copium processing

[marsh inlet]

@crimson inlet do u have a wuling plant setup?

This ugly pos is all I could smash together

[subtle finch]

it's not that tangled, cuprium refiner is just a sewage pump in disguise

[vast iron]

has never heard of the "rotate" feature

[crimson inlet]

I have this thing

[marsh inlet]

IM TRYING TO MAKE IT PRETTY U VERMIN

[vast iron]

ifwaadsadwfa

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

WHY SHRED BEFORE STASH

GAHHH

[marsh inlet]

I need them to add a flip feature

[crimson inlet]

to make this thing less cluttered

[deft orbit]

anyone here that knows a pipe distribution where a single source splits 33% to one side and 66% to the other?

[vast iron]

water is directional

[river wadi]

you use a pipe splitter

[vast iron]

you realize splitters have 3 sides, right?

[marsh inlet]

I dont know what those words mean

[subtle finch]

4 actually

[river wadi]

1 in 3 out

[deft orbit]

wait, I think I may have overcomplicated something xD

[vast iron]

if you flip it your water inputs will be inside your seeding unit

[deft orbit]

xDDDD

[keen river]

?

[vast iron]

brainfart

[marsh inlet]

Then I could move the seed unit smh

[keen river]

input from right side

[vast iron]

its 2 buildings just make it yourself then??????

[crimson inlet]

BEAUTY IS EVERYTHING

[deft orbit]

I was thinking on stuff like 10/m and stuff like that I forgot the spliters actualy have 3 sides xD

[vast iron]

I WILL SPAGHETTIFY YOU

[marsh inlet]

The zip ties

They call to me

[vast iron]

they call me insane

i was insane once

[...}

[marsh inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-jumping-jumping-cat-gif-6664873846608164969

Well im gonna go back to smashing my head into a wall till I find out how to make some wuling planters pretty

[void owl]

Can i install wuling WMD in v4?

[ruby sorrel]

what do you think about glorious heavy xira bottler?

[vast iron]

its perfect

just as it should be

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

sadly its already over the power limit of 200

sooo

[ruby sorrel]

hmmmm

[vast iron]

its like

365

soo

[ruby sorrel]

awkward

[vast iron]

4 originium burners?

[ruby sorrel]

seems feasible

[vast iron]

oh wait

445

cuz treatment

[ruby sorrel]

just imagine you have sewage

[keen river]

you can even smack some boxes in valley 4 and get some batteries to power this for a while, if all other fails

[vast iron]

[subtle finch]

i have an idea

[ruby sorrel]

unforunately this takes about 3 min/bottle

[vast iron]

who cares

[subtle finch]

actually it might be impossible...

[vast iron]

afk overnight

[ruby sorrel]

yeah gotta burn originium

[vast iron]

is it 1forge?

[subtle finch]

make a 1 bp layout that creates everything the story requires you to make

[ruby sorrel]

so... just xira bottles?

[subtle finch]

casuals would love that, but the issue is aic research

[ruby sorrel]

but those are free

[vast iron]

casuals is the wrong term ehh

[ruby sorrel]

also I'm casual

I can still build things

[subtle finch]

i mean they can't make it early

[vast iron]

i mean half of the research is optional ngl

[subtle finch]

you need xiranite for first quest

[vast iron]

like

turrets and shi

[subtle finch]

but heavy xiranite is in 1.2

[vast iron]

tho you do need the 8 forge unlock to unlock heavy xiranite recipe

[ruby sorrel]

wait really?

[subtle finch]

actually, maybe it can still work

you just need the forge

[ruby sorrel]

I thought you just had to unlock marker pac

[void owl]

Can i install wuling WMD in v4?

[vast iron]

the upgrade says allows forges to produce heavy xiranite

or smt

[ruby sorrel]

o

[hidden tree]

I have to say some of the new Formulars are.. pretty weird to say the least.. at least at the Moment considering that we possibly get at least 2 to 4 more updates with new Wuling Areas ( aside from the Test Area later in 1.2) and possibly more Mining spots 🤔

[vast iron]

wym by WMD

[void owl]

Weponds of mass destruction

[subtle finch]

it can't make heavy xiranite early on, but at least it can be ready

[ruby sorrel]

well you get to that point with marker pac anyways iirc

[vast iron]

yeah

why not

[ruby sorrel]

they'll just have a dead forge until they do 1.2 story it's np

[hidden tree]

you need to unlock this one in the Blueprints to produce Heavy Xiranite

[subtle finch]

casuals would flock that bp

it's basically what you made

[marsh inlet]

I think I did it

Compact

[ruby sorrel]

so what does the bp actually do, LC/SC medA/C xira, bottle xira bottle heavy xira?

[marsh inlet]

Pretty effecient

Not hideous

[subtle finch]

maybe some parts are useful too

would be a fun challenge too, efficiency be damned

make as much of everything with 1 bp

[ruby sorrel]

and you have to fit it in 40x40 with no bus

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

Is it bad?

[shadow hound]

So much to make one Hetonite

bideo ganes

[meager vale]

What's the max output for each kind of ore in wuling now?

[hidden tree]

What i mean with weird is, Cuprium Solution are 4x Reactors + Cuprium Refinerys/Shredder needed to run the Purification Unit with ~50%
And you need 2x such Lines to let the Hetonite Production run with 0 waiting Time
But we dont have nearly enough Cuprium for 8x Refinerys atm
Heavy Xiranite needs 10s to produce, but the Reactor produces 1x Liquid version of it in 2s so you would need 5x Forges for no delays 🤔

[vast iron]

480/90/180

[meager vale]

nice, ty

wonder if I should pivot directly into hetonite then

[vast iron]

heavy xiranite needs 5 fluids too

not 1

[marsh inlet]

[ruby sorrel]

at least you don't need that much heavy xira bottle

[vast iron]

mathnt

[ruby sorrel]

I think there's just that one patch of superblight?

[vast iron]

lol

[hidden tree]

The Xircon Effluent is not a issue, you can bring that in with 1x Reactor

[marsh inlet]

I used feng super dash to jump through it

[vast iron]

i think theres 1 next to the alluvium

[shadow hound]

So I'm guessing it's impossible to use Heavy Xiranite or Hetonite at max production when creating any products with them, until the next patch?

[marsh inlet]

Forced inefficiency hurts

[halcyon niche]

guys I have a question, I enjoy actualy playing around with the factory and understanding how the production works but I HATE standing around to optimize all the space and resources, what am I, just lazy or I actualy dont like that part of the gameplay, cause I dont know myself

[vast iron]

they have like 1 useful product atm which is components

[ruby sorrel]

it's k just don't optimize the space

[vast iron]

selling otherwise

[halcyon niche]

I mean cmon ONE SILNGLE MISPLACEMENT, and I cant put this into this and now I GOTTA START EVERYTHING AGAIN FROM THE START

[hidden tree]

I would assume that we get at least 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5 more about Wuling.. maybe even 1.6 depending how big they want to make the northern Exclusion Zone and the Quest to continue
Then is ( if 1.6 has nothing anymore) that one and 1.7 before 2.0 should come out late January/February 2027
At least in terms of potential 2.0 release is because of what the dev lowlight said in that interview ~2 1/2 months ago

[ruby sorrel]

I would guess your problem is trying to cram stuff and then bricking cus you didn't plan ahead for the next 5 buildings you had to place + pylons

[marsh inlet]

Nah just shuffle it a bit

[vast iron]

yall plan ahead?

[ruby sorrel]

no

[vast iron]

[ruby sorrel]

I just leave space and fix it after I have all my shit down

[marsh inlet]

@vast iron do u liek what I came up with

[ruby sorrel]

well usually I don't fix it

we have so much space

[vast iron]

should i be nice or be honest

[marsh inlet]

Honest

[halcyon niche]

well thats the thing, I want to not waste resources or time, so should I just suffer with my own messy set up or just get a premade one, cause it helps me actualy progress the game but it feels like a sin to use others set ups

[vast iron]

it fucking sucks

why did you put the stash like 4 tiles outside

[marsh inlet]

THEN MAKE A BEYTER ONE

[vast iron]

what were you thinking

[halcyon niche]

ok I do thT, NOW another thing dont fit, then again then again

[marsh inlet]

Where else would I put it

[ruby sorrel]

yeah just leave more space

[vast iron]

rotate the conduit and make it go from around

[marsh inlet]

I tried to slot it in the inside

[vast iron]

then stash the stash in the middle

and connect

[marsh inlet]

But that adds so much wiring

Oh

The conduit

Not the storage

Thats a good idea actually

[shadow hound]

welp i finally got components being made as... fast... as they can. if they can even be called fast.

[marsh inlet]

I constantly forget you can just overlap belts with pipes

[vast iron]

akso

also

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

why the fuck are you using a conduit

whats the point

just drag water

???

[marsh inlet]

@vast iron so I can put it elsewhere, and its pretty

[vast iron]

no

[marsh inlet]

But its pretty

[vast iron]

spaghetti pipes

final answer

[marsh inlet]

I dunno how to combine pipes ect

I just knoe 1 pump make 2 pipes

So I go off that

[hidden tree]

I also prefer to use Conduits in most cases, especially when i have buildings that need Water at the other side of the Base / pumps.
You dont have all those messy pipes around, and sometimes if you place them in the middle of a line, you save a bit of space if you dont need to consider pipes coming in for like the Forges or so

[ruby sorrel]

like we have so much space just use it all don't corner yourself

[lost lantern]

I didn’t find an exploration channel so gonna ask here:

What do I do here? I can’t seem to start whatever quest is needed to activate the pillar in the middle, or is there no quest?

[marsh inlet]

Rotating the pump is a good idea tho

Thx

[ruby sorrel]

day 3 of quest chain

[vast iron]

[marsh inlet]

ITS PRETTY

AND SMOL

[vast iron]

shit, theres a quest chain?

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

well too bad

[ruby sorrel]

there's 2 quests that take 3 days

[vast iron]

pain

[marsh inlet]

Yall do side quests?

[vast iron]

not that i do quests anyways

[ruby sorrel]

no I just walk around and play the game

[vast iron]

maybe if im desperate for pulls i will

[marsh inlet]

Save em up fr

[vast iron]

SKIP BUTTON

skip button ❤️

[hidden tree]

i do all my Quests (without skipping anything) 😅

[marsh inlet]

I only do the ones with ops in them xD

[hidden tree]

dont care about any of that, ive done all available quests from 1.0 and 1.1 already

[orchid dune]

How many bus depot ports can you place in Wuling?

[marsh inlet]

Enough

[orchid dune]

How many

[somber ledge]

Does anyone know how much heavy xianrite is needed to make 5 new gear?

[deft orbit]

any idea on how to lower a yield by 2/m? xD

[halcyon niche]

is the pipe transportation speed as fast as the conveyer?

[vast iron]

faster

[marsh inlet]

It kinda depends om what setup you choose

[halcyon niche]

oh so to maximize cuprium solution should I make 2 cuprium dust to one acid pump?

[vast iron]

how does that have anything to do with transport speed (but yes)

[orchid dune]

Heard ur allowed 2 depots but I can only place 1

[vast iron]

Upgrades'

[orchid dune]

Oh wait

The upgrades from that owl?

[vast iron]

ye

[halcyon niche]

`well maybe im stupid but the recepy for it is one to one, but I feel like because the conveyer is a bit slower theres a bit of lag inbetween

[orchid dune]

Well fuck I shouldve checked that before spending all of my bills 🛌

[vast iron]

1 per 2s, beltspeed is 1 per 2s

ignore animations

pumps are all 1/1s

which is why they sustain 2

[marsh inlet]

@vast iron is this better?

[hidden tree]

You can place 25x Bus Depots and 2x Ports in the Main AIC atm at maximum bought upgrades
Sky kings Flats and Marker Stone 12x Bus Depots and 2x Ports at current maximum bought upgrades

[vast iron]

remove the conduit and you wont have to deal with pylon thicness

[halcyon niche]

yeah I just responded because you asked what does thaty have to do with transportation speed

[marsh inlet]

BUT ITS NEAT

😭

[vast iron]

transportation speed doesnt really matter since most facilities have multiple inputs

[marsh inlet]

At worst im putting plyons outside next to it

And running it like this

[vast iron]

youre more looking at the recipe efficiency

in most cases recipes run on 2s

[halcyon niche]

.....FORGOT ABOUT THAT, lmao I was about to make 2 curpium dust shreeders

thanks

[vast iron]

???

im lost

facility efficiency

rememmber

[halcyon niche]

yep, thanks

[marsh inlet]

Id just do smth like this prob

[vast iron]

multiple belts usually only apply to either: 10s recipes
multiple to 1 or 1 to multiple recipes

[marsh inlet]

But pump outside of area

I guess I could probably just rotate it like

No

No nvm

I think this is just it

[hidden tree]

ive simply build my Planting Units for Carbon in the Main bases Corner for the 5x Forges i have there
Might consider doing it more compact when we potentially get more stuff in the Future

[marsh inlet]

For example

I think im happy with that

[subtle finch]

i can't with these planters already

[marsh inlet]

if you have a better alternative

IM ALL EARS

[vast iron]

DONT USE ISOLATED PLANTERS

[marsh inlet]

WHY NOT IT MAKES THE REST PRETTY

[vast iron]

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

me. you. spaghettified

[halcyon niche]

yeah I was looking to make hetonite a little faster but in the end I think I just need to make a second crucible to make more hetonite solution

[marsh inlet]

But I want

NEATNESS

[vast iron]

neatness advocates are tricking you

do not fall for it

[uneven aspen]

increases required depot unloaders 😔

[marsh inlet]

😭

[hidden tree]

Making Hetonite atm running at 100% is totally impossible, even at 50% it only really works if you stop your Syringe A line 🤔

[marsh inlet]

The farms would block the spot the loaders are already in

Besides we have a billion loaders in wuling

[vast iron]

loaders can move

[uneven aspen]

we are getting 4 more forges though . . .

[vast iron]

this aint valley 4

[marsh inlet]

Im at least doing remote sand dust

Bcs grinding it up being 1 to 3 is annoying

I always have to either overproduce or like

Send it on a global trip

[vast iron]

global trip = spaghetti

keep doing that

[subtle finch]

simplest is better

[marsh inlet]

THIS IS WHAT IM DOING

[crimson inlet]

can anyone guess what's the problem?

[subtle finch]

then do it

[marsh inlet]

Too ugly?

[crimson inlet]

"How do I dump sewage from the expanded"

[marsh inlet]

Its basically the same picture

[subtle finch]

you're clearly blind

[marsh inlet]

O