#aic-factory
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just use conduit man
with 1.2x on trading don't have to refresh deliveries 🎉
well technically it doesnt need any dragging
cross outpost transfer
doesnt white bottles require ferrium
no, only amethyst
what's the assumption on elastic?
hetonite bottles when
whats the difference
+3500 avg ea
its white 
but yeah no like, there has been actual situations where i can't just use conduits
i expect you to start using heavy xiranite bottles by tomorrow, unless you wish tp suffer the consequences
if you can hold out for over 4k you can skip deliveries
3500 good, also add 1 day of forgetting while on elastic limit
but sometimes rng just screws you
i have to cross outpost transfer sewage
BUT
wuling is already overcapped on my power points usage
biggest flex be 148k of different liquid in heto bottle
so its gonna be pain in the ass to pull a conduit all the way from the new area to wuling
yes, thats the point
we like for you to suffer
thats the point
why not have all production at new base?
imagine not just building all the liquid stuff in new aic 
better pull conduits than pipes
batterys wont fit
funny thing is you did this again, no? Cuz 1 pipe isnt enough 
you can't fit the production of 2 batteries and hetonite in one place
yeah but source 2 is near
make only xircon 
huh? why? how? i have all new stuff +2 batteries and a lot of space to spare
it is the facility limit
is there any use for this?
I.... never thought about seperating xircon damn.
assuming delivery is 90k per job from random plus 120k your own job daily cuz you dont always get 120k job from randoms, that's 2.7m a week
spraying, yes
to spray new blight
where to find new blight?
Da new area?
Start of marker stone
i forgot, just seen it once
graveyard and north entrance of new location
its in bunch of places around marker stone
bridge you see at the start of main quest, there is a lot around the graveyard too
afaik graveyard is normal blight
you can wash it with normal xiranite liquid
nah, there is a building in the south east corner of graveyard that you can climb
its all heavy blight
south east of it i think
oh that
AIGHT FINALLY
so hmm i guess you can try to get at least 4k net profit from selling goods and not be worry about doing delivery
took me 20 bottles of heavy or so for all new blight
OKAY NOW I REMEMBER WHY I CANT JUST SEPERATE THE XIRCON
yeah, you dont need much of it
yeah it takes very little heavy spray
definitely not worth having a liquid tank filled with it
IM CONVERTING THE INERT XIRCON ON WULING OUTPOST
new map is going to use that for sure
are you guys sure i can fit heavy xira, inert xircon purification
and xircon rocks in the same base
move heavy xira nite to the new outpost, yes
that's assuming they don't put the fire hydrant thingies every 50 meters
it's a skill matter (issue)
do i need the second depot bus
well, true
ehh, you can but not necessary
there seem to be some heavy blight on the shore , you can see it from monitoring center
and there also is a lot of heavy blight in the entrance corridor
but shall see what happens when map releases
there are also red swords of evil snake boy, so probably new mechanics too
how do people even manage to compress nearly entire wuling production into the main AIC factory 
all i managed to put there is 6 Xiranite, 2 Heavy Xiranite forges and one SC battery line
where is graveyard?
we are losing a lot of space from not having to do syringe production or 5 forges per xircon
on both sides of the tower in marker stone
*gaining
north has some rememberance space and south is graveyard
Hm, I see
west side. around ink portal tower area
im kinda just like, is my solution really that worse off lmao
Im impressed with how some of you are using separating unit
Like.. i cant find a use case for myself
you gotta get used to cut->paste and move things around bases
true bother
will extra xircon from purification unit mess up my factory? idk how to use more xircon?
true capitalists cant accept a power loss like that
i capped out on points on wuling 350/350 so it's a HUGE pain in the ass to go on a trip placing around inlets and outlets
What... How do you 350

Wait lemme check mine
I only hit the facility limit ive never hit the protocol limit
idk i probably made way too many zipline routes
theres definitely some uneeded zipline routes but i do them so i dont get bored doing deliveries
oh no, im near facility limit, let me bottle fluids to help with that 
[Wuling Main AIC All-In-One Production]
requirement #1 : have 4 pumps, into 2 pipelines going from Marker Stone Map, to Wuling Main AIC

what are you guys even placing? 
anyways ima go do some tests on auto-switching xiranite
what aren't you placing
alternate of switch when depot full?
neat af LC
nice
well that wont take all my 100 points if i do that
my issue with the former is the ratio you make both isnt exactly 1:1
just dont make xircon? you should use that purification for Hxira
oh, that's also 25/m?
yeah, you steal 1/6th of 30
i guess it makes sense 
uncessary zipline route before god forbid i get to make the entire region fully ziplineable
idk why i was doing it like this
can you share me some zipline slot

i think i used 46/50
dw, thats my version 1, until i realize that last converger can go
for me to fully be all in one main aic
how many originium ore per sec is this
double the ori block?
cap just vanishes yk
im using dense ori meta, so it doesnt even register in aic report as ore
how many ori do you get from meta btw
i mean dense ori
1 pump pretending he isnt seen
25/min, same as that limiter
bro's outpost is clean af
sc batteries is actually better, which i plan to switch soon, but this is just easier to setup
unlike me
hmm ok. i got 7 xiranite forge and 1 heavy xiranite with no bottle neck. Might look at upgrading one to heavy xiranite? will have a look
the difference is 1000w of power gained!
mhm
Can just do this since its slow moving.
WHAT IS POWER
does meta have xircon
Bro squeezing every last bit
is there a difference? 
impressive
Just space saving.. XD
do I move things now so I have room for 4 forges later, or do I just ignore it until later tfw my aic core is kinda just in the middle of the empty space
bro is using his space like this
Anyone got an easy to follow new base ?
I have space it's getting used
well I have 6 forges in subpac
Mine also empty coz xir all in valley.
New stuff all in new sub.
what thing
Space
i suck at space optimization asw
Main aic only 2 sc battery and heavy xir linked to it..
kinda empty
yeah my main is only 12sc 6 yazA 1heavyxira+1xira
bro when can i get a whole screenshot of the AIc
btw I've been seeing people around with a new blue avatar border, where'd they get it from?
ok bro
it's really just multiple screenshots stitched together
hmm seems like you using 3 line of xira for Hxira?
yeah i know
Space for next 4 forges?

Non existent. Ill have to rebuild everything (again)
8 self-sufficient forges in sub-pac is good?

wont there be another pac in test area?
well actually 1 forge is for heavy xir
Oh yass.. Syr A+C also in mine.
Forget about them..
Don't think so..
aight still good
Tbh if there are 4 more forges i can just jam them into my main and delete some extra lines i made
do you trade the heavy xiranite and heto parts for bills?
bruh i'm already at 6.2k
since there are only 8 availableslots for forge of the sky, how many should be used for xiranite and heavy xiranite production? And which is the best option?
but yeah idk i do think there's some niche uses to bottling some waters
got it, thanks
its the only way we can store liquids thru automation
Nop, both precious..
The thing is that.. do you really need to store them
do we only get 60/min more cuprium ore in this update? And if thats the case, should i completely stop yazhen syringe A / jincao drink production and fully focus on hetonite?
how many stock bills do outposts generate
If yes then ok. If no then.. ok 
trying to think what can we possibly do with the extra xiranite forge we have rn
aside from directly selling the xiranite it produces
Ye that extra is bothering me too
ANYONE WANT SOME JINCAO DRINKS?!
is this correct uwaa
make more LC wuling bat?
up to you. it's at least useful to learn how new stuff works if you rebuild into copium dust
1.25 sc for more stockbills?
dynamically use 1 forge to switch either crafting Xiranite or Heavy Xiranite
My brother i swim in Jincao river
Wait not Jincao
Yazhen
I can drown while being healed
Like yin and yang
until there's a way to make these devices switch upon running out of resources that sounds like too much hassle 🙁
8.333 xiranite + 25 dense ori meta transfer, if you want to use more xiranite
why u have to split dense ori, you can just use them all and make them wait for the meta transfer
Personaly I focus on hetonite (i only 4 coprium for hetonite) and battery. Those are enough for me to deplete the outposts.
You need to teach the packaging unit who's the boss
because all my dense ori crafted are sent back to depot, so i cannot interrupt it
😭
And that it's long suffering is a warning to not revolt
Dem that's some loooong lines
i see, thx for the answers. Just wondering if i can deplete outpost since the hetonite didnt produce any sellable items afaik. Guess the best way is to temporarily switch it up until you stock up a lot of hetonite since its so damn slow with only extra 60 cuprium
I think a few did the numbers and they are basically the same
hetonite parts can be sold, no?
It is your preference to what you want to craft
you make like 5 part per min, better hold on to them
is that too space inefficient?
Make a few hetointe component a few houndred is enough after that you can sell all the hetonite part.
mhm makes sense
oh yeah it is lol, im just focusing on second outpost and didnt realize that mb
what do I need to check to solve this
i’d do 1 shredder to feed both grinding machines but that will clog the shredder
Hetonite parts... WE NEED MORE GUNS
it was fine yesterday
BIGGER CANNONS
1 more xircon line
huge chance, its your sewage
your xircon line
inert usage, xircon production, sewage input
what do you mean?
are you using 1 expanded crucible for them all or 5 separate normal ones
i havent checked all the new gears yet, but incase you need to use them for artificing you need a thousands of them no?
....
simple, something mustve been CAPPED
for now, no
No Xyranite and Copium are still goated to artifice
there are alternatives, even better
yeh my ferrium capped

You can use old gear for artificing the new ones
You only need Hetonite to craft usable gears
squeesing shredder in and stashing 3dop instead of 2. is that saving a lot of space?
me good 
Mine rn.. Kinda messy, lazy to fit it.. -_-)
Ok guys i already redo my whole ass WL fact twice.... Copypasta from some CCs/guys And somehow the prod yield still cant buyout the WL currency outpost shop. Can someone give me link for asia 1.2BP that can buyout the outpost shop? Im so tired redo the whole thing again and again 
ferrium capped bcs your xircon crucible isnot doing 100%
so its either lacks of sewage or any input
oh yea no new non set gear for artificing, guess i dont need much then. Thanks for the answers
i mean, shredding sandleaf from a single unloader is better than 3 unloaders of sandleaf powder
Best you figure out what the bps are for and what materials they need/they excrete
2 lines of SC wbat, 7+1 self-sufficient forges, 2 copium+2copium parts, i think life good
Touch down on each side
selling copium parts is better than heto part?
oh yeh my sewage input is lacking somewhat 
making those together with plants?
hm?
the parts are for yazhen
wow how did i only realized now there is a limit of 512 factory facilities inside AIC area and logistics are counted. Now i need to remove alot of item control ports since i basically used it everywhere...
Yep
am i doing this right, or am i supposed to have two seperate reactors for each? i'm taking notice about how the liquids full up faster than the machine cane produce these
u can try to math the weight of their resources but cuprium parts MAXed really fast unless you only make few lines
3/min syringe A?
6
will i produce hetonite faster if i run two reactor crucible?
i had to move plants away to fit them with this update. maybe it'll help
yall think the 13th feranmut might be named Xi (息, breath) and that's why it's Xiranite (息壤)?
uh... maybe i'll make 3/min
this is the slowest fucking thing in the universe, fight m2
whats the current max speed of heto part?
Oh..
yeh it was because I turned off two cuprium depots so my sewage was cut down in half
I read all the devices and know which connect to which and where the waste goes but device placement is not my forte
its not about the reactor, its about HOW many cuprium you want to spent for hetonite

all 6 cuprium atp
180cup is just 22.5/m heto
4.5/min for 180/min copper
You can always build your own
Trials and errors make your personal favorite base
U obvly didnt read. If i can manage the placement better, i can just do it myself
I did
And I meant what i meant
Aint got time for that. G4Y (good for you)
i read the 4 as a
wait is there no tower defense for the 2nd outpost? I just raised the level but i cant seem to find the terminal
Don't forget add your watermark..

✋ 🤚
Not yet maybe..
Dang
Super messy.. XD
oh thats too bad since the stock bill is really slow, though i guess i didnt have to craft mortar for now
oh god what have i gotten myself into
Cant use depot for xiranite is such an annoying requirement
Hetonite production uses 22.5/m (or oscillating 22-23)
My ferrium usage is 210 
So if you're doing 90+that it'll be 112~113
If full heto mode, yass..
Current or Theoretical?
Hello I need a base that can make hetonite components, hetonite parts, xiranite components, cuprium components, batteries, xiranite fluid, and heavy xiranite fluid, while maximizing production for stock bills. Do any of the blueprints in the discussion do all or most of that?
Theoratical. If I turn om everything
will this inevitably shit itself
So if I send Ferrium thru Metastorage it balances it out right?
Yes
Hell yeah
A tiny bit surplus coz with meta its 115..
What the hell happened here?
guys am i good 
What ratio is this lol
Server?
oh no
Global or NA
Ohh too bad, I'm in Asia
Man is crafting crop circles
are you sure that a single pipe can give enough acid to 4 crucible?
Someone else recommended Sciel, do u know which one that is cuz I can’t find it
yeah figures someone’s already made one it shouldn’t have been super difficult. i’m surprised they can get away with so many unnecessary facilities and get away with it both space wise and fac count wise
Nvm found on yt
Goodluck!
btw, for the automatic xiranite switch i suspect we have to make every other xiranite production depot-independent
0.9375/min usage?
so like directly into heavy xiranite or liquidification
Is it possible to get a stable 6/min hetonite part?
As a token of gratitude I have a gift for you my most treasured possession.
2.25/min hetonite component should be max for each gearing unit right?
20 clue 7s
huh
use fewer hetonite parts
Is mine bugged? I've been looking at it for 15 mins now
I dont think theres any way to limit the clogging when stash is full to only one forge, since we have no idea how stash priority works
is LC really the way to go instead of SC?
No, i'm not flexing, i am genuinely confused
your cuprium is probably unsustainable
I did the math and it's supposed to be 4.5 ish no?
itl brick eventually
180/180, look
Either that or its slight liquif stockpile from when you were building the design
that’s fine, when you clog you will switch to heavy xiranite production and free up space immediately, shouldn’t affect other lines
Probably
Hallelujah
Gimme like.. 2 more days Last Rite is being picky
the problem is all of the designs ive gone through need some time to operate so everything will clog for a solid bit before it switches
i mean nobody gonna care about like 5 seconds of lost production in a cycle that should be hours or days per period
the other issue is that we need a solid output line since the minimum blocking item cycle is 4 items, and since stashes deposit every 8-9 seconds its super inconsistent. But if we dont use other depots itl be 100% consistent
Do you think this looks good? I like how the 2 packaging unit meet in the middle
there is no way to achieve a priority splitter without relying on stashes and well thats what limits the belt size
Pretty nice arena
im not sure i really grasp what this means without seeing the actual implementation
just dm me
that's cool
sc vs sc who will win
its basically a loop of 4 which blocks item flow, until the clogged xiranite from the input will clog one output lane and cause it to go to another stash which will open the "lock" until we do the same on the other side in which case it switches back
i think 
idgi lol
one sec
Yep
yep
4 on battery right?
or just 8 heavy 
3 for heavy xira
Why 
8 heavy? how does that work

simple, you don't care about the xiranite feeling, you just dump them into the forge
gotta get some example to show who's the boss here
my battery's ugly
Damn someone stops bubble he's going on his villain arc
I shouldn't have said that

learnt from u 
YOU FUCKS OMGGG
I CANT EVEN PUT MY XIRCON IN THE SAME BASE AS CUPRIUM EVEN IF I WANT TO
WHY????
PIPE LOGISTIC EXCEEDED
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
I HAVE TO USE THE BOTTLES EVEN IF I DONT WANT TO
good for yo-120!?

NO STOP WHY DID THE SCREEN HAVE TO SPLIT
holy adhd
@silent violet current prototype
oh it's copium i thought that was xircon
idk what this is but THIS SUCKS!!!
the xircon is just enuf for 2 line of battery
shush
okay
what
you dont even know what we doing 
btw so
thats literally the first thing i said 
priorities the lane
placeholder?
i take it everyone is at l2 outpost now on the new map?
is there no tower defense for it?
How does your base looks like?
makes senseee
for now yeah
makes sense7
itl probably be replaced with a blocker later on, but rn yeah
sucks
mhm
Just do it
ive tried 11 mortars, its fucking goated and i love it
is it better to just run only mortar?
idk but 11 goes hard
i was still running the flame grilling
ok i'm spamming 14 now
had 1 slow tower
Not really
1 res reducs tower
i use 3-4 there lol idk why
just use reactor blocker walls
Its better to mix flame and mortar
2 hyper beam
+1 acid
i like me variety
so enemy group onto u?
A billion mortar oneshots anyways who needs chip dmg
just stand behind a deluge tower
You will appreciate the chip dmg on the boss
Billion mortar cant oneshot
mix acid and mortar
but yeah no fuck offf, im keeping the bottles
i mean, when u spam like 20 mortar, no mortal will survive
gotta have flames for the trash that spawns before the elites
Go try 14 mortar + 1 acid
i've never used deluge in farm ngl
im kinda just mad that the game doesnt inform you of limits like this like god
god forbid having too many pipes
why deluge?
the big boss doesnt die faster than flame+mortar
Ykw ill just dump numbers
mortar+acid is 1 minute
mortar+flames+acid is 50 seconds
on new alluvium
the setup also looks really fucking cool
nice
hmmmm
should i even be making heavy xiranite at full efficiency? i feel like it doesnt have enough uses to justify the extra forge
no containment zone for the fraggers?
hmm
that's so much fire thingy
Try it
Interesting i have no problem making the hetonite and the xircone in the same outpost.
makes sense
ye but can you move after being bombarded by 14 bombs ?
but by the time it reaches u, its dead
just delete them quick?
YEAH NO I CANT DO IT, I'M CAPPED AT 96 PIPES AHHHHHHHH
I dont afk in the middle
I meant the enemy*
I stand a bit far on the corner
Oh well
The reviving ones do
but not for long lol
They fit the reload too
Ded > Rev > Ded
do my pipes interesect too much or some shit?
If something isn't ded, then you havent given it enough democracy
valley is also enjoying the new turrets
mortar + beam + acid
scipark doesnt need acid tho
i love the new aluvium
no intersection is too much
Scipark are just dogs and zombies
i completely dropped valley these days lol
yeah but im capped at pipes
so like
???????????
I cant even make scipark faster anymore cus i keep bumping into killgate and timegate
i cant even do xircon on the same base as heto part even if i want to
Ye the time gate is annoying
game literally said YOU ARE KILLING TOO FAST STOP
r u guys makin the new food?
yes. bridges are not optimal, but is that only reason you exceeded pipes limit?
test site should also have its own subPAC right?
the one u can farm in new aluvium
Im still using yazhen infusion and jincao tea for healing
no idea
cs cd reduc
Oh
the game just says i hit the pipe limit
Oh the cd
Well i dont farm new alluvium
i mean like nonconsumable
Not really
wdym
mine is still up but not never harvested lol
the game gives me an error that i have too much pipes
this is new
I got Fanfyi's essence before i even got her weapon
wtf is network busy smh
how do you even
Lag
how much pipes do you have
I got that too
Pipe logistic limit
try piping from wuling city to the new map, i think u'll get that

someone remind me where are all the places with hyperactive blight that I need liquid heavy xira for
okay now it's parameter error
just new map
it's illegal to move 200 pipes ig
why would you try that
Ugh.. so far only the serenity garden
i ran a pipeline from the 40k pool to aic and back
idk, ik sumone did that for sum reason
still not limited
ok. i'm this much before limit. reason to think...
thats weird, if i dont have one for each the game would just pile up the sewage
last time i tried
excuse me
Hi guys, rate my spaghet
It's not gonna clog and go on sstrike by the time I wake up right?
purification plant MIGHT clog from excess water
unless im thinking wrong
one too many purification units
There’s also the broken bridge, even though you can go around it.
dangit
oversimplified. 4 input - 1 purifier
plus you can throw out that one reactor here
heard there's two places
I got the one at serenity garden
wish they'd just water plants or something with the excess
this looks good enough ig
Well it's good to have some heavy xyranite on you. Those wall pushing puzzles, heavy xyranite pushes waaaaay more efficiently
woah cool
yeah no can you guys stop questioning my build
i merged em and it starts building up red liquid faster than they can produce
you can 1.25 SC but i dont like having to many added facilities
um I'm trying to think, but my brain is failing me, how to cut down on 1 purification unit and 1 reactor?
ye I'm packing some rn
this is true spaghettimaxxing
around 1k should be enough
(that's all the empty bottles I have lying around
Any tips to deal with excess water?
dump it or feed it back
it's a 30/m line so you can feed it to copper to sth
dump it
ratio is 4/1 so you combine the 2 reactor bank’s output to 1 unit
Drink it
then you have 100% uptime
dunk it
I feed it to the farm and dump the rest
lmao of course just dump the purification unit's water duh, thanks guys
im supposed to get 180 at rdm 12 right
yeah
Can I use just 2 reactors inert to make heavy xira or is 4 sources needed for 6/min?
left side is dump
right side goes to farm
so it feeds the sprinklers first then dump the rest
save on one pump
with 2 inert it's .5 water - better to dump. if you have 1 water, might as well use, but kinda inconvenient
heavy xiranite uses 30/m effluent input so yes you’d need 2 reactors waste effluent
You need 4 in total for best xircon so yes 4 is optimal
shredded ferrium unloader, maybe 1 or 2 treatment units, 1 expanded crucible. Thikn that's all you need to add
the plants ain't using 30/m anyway
you should keep your xircon, copper and heavy xira in the same place
copper -> sewage -> xircon -> inert effluent -> heavy xira
Ik you need 4 crucible for xircon,im asking about the inert effluent byproduct to make heavy xira
yes
you need 4 inert effluent for one line of heavy xira
you should have 4 since each of your SC facs outputs two
it's 4 inert + 2 xira = 1 heavy xira
if seven of my forges do xiranite and one for heavy xiranite, what do i do for the final xiranite?
is there any way to mirror a blueprint?
yeah but i also had to add a refiner, shredder, pump (i already have exact usage)
sprinklers usage is like...once per 2 hours or something = clog? or with dump its just goes away instanly, no?
xtransfer dense originium powder from v4 and either do LC bats or xira comp
oh yeah you'd have to redesign to make it extra janky looking to fit all that and not neat like what you have
it will clog the sprinkers first then dump
so it actually never clogs the purifier
Ye I figured as much, I got confused because it looked like the machine was clogging from too much effluent so I thought I only needed 2 lines instead of 4, thx
yeah it wouldnt fit in my all-in-one AIC 
im exactly 512/512
make it janky. It can fit if you make it extra janky and make like noodle pasta bowl spaghetti. I was able to do it
This is my and it doesn't build up. If you merged all 6 the pipes yes it will builds up because Purification unit can handle 4 pipes max.
I forget, is there a "priority pipe converger"? Like if you put a converger down, does it prefer fluids entering from one of the three inputs?
Uhh I'll leave this to another day, I'll dump the water and call it a day thanks a lot
currently having mine like this
how long are you running this? whats the trick to make flow controlled?
i think there is
is this priority flow obsolete now for sewage?
what are you trying to do?
this is just 7/8 sewage, no?
Does the 3rd spliter even work
trying to get rid of it to save space lol
just put a splitter out of the outlet
it's permanent
split 2 way to the dump and to the sprinkers
splitters auto recognize when one branch is fully clogged so you don't have to worry about ratio
remove it if it has no purpose
lol
one thing in my spaghetti base, I am under 512/512, with some room to spare, and I haven't figured out what the pipe limits are. I seem to be able to keep making splitters and stuff wit hit
does dump works different from water treatment unit? cuz when i do it with sewage it suck all of it regardless
where are you even dumping the sewage
me?
do this
if the sprinklers aren't clogged then the outlet will feed 50/50
if the sprinkers clogged then everything goes to dump
either way it doesn't clog the purifier
and saves you a pump
I don't think you can "dump" sewage. afaik yo ucan only dump fluids to same types of "infinite" fluid sources.
so water to water, acid to acid.
we're talking about the leftover water from the purifier
im talking about how it works
mfw I put in a bunch of work to spaghetti a heavy xiranite line, then realize the devs sneaky intended update of our SC lines || siphoning the 4 inerts into a purification unit instead of treating it, therefore getting the heavy xiranite "for free" || 
thats only safe for water right? not sewage if I have all my cuprium waste merged into a line and splittering into expanded reactors?
Yeah you can dump the water back into the canal if you want, or design to use it in your other production somewhere
oh it's different. dumping is literally using the fluid supply unit so you "throw out" the excess clean water out of it. essentially works like treatment unit but it's for clearing excess acid or clean water, not much else.
I'm backfeeding the acid for the hetonite though
kinda like how this serves as a diagnostic tool for my aic
the spaces between them is breaking me why
if you're running 4x inert then it's one full 30/m line of water you can reuse for a copium or a plant yeah
I'm using it to feed my farm
but the farm doesn't use 30/m so you'll still have to dump otherwise it's clog
that works. 4 in. 2 left. 2 right
time to use my outposts for belts and pipes tests
I got heavy xiranite now. On my lunch break I'll finish up the rest of the hetonite parts then hopefully
phew its done
should I cut back on hetonite to 3/min and use the two lines of copium for copium comp + yazhen A
And after work I'll convert my SC lines to Expanded reactors to free up space to move SyringeA to the core. That way I have room for the rest of the carbon/sandleaf production in Sky King. Keep it all self-contained
You would want to rethink about converting away from sc
i thought splitter slow the flow,no? or you inputting 3 -> 1.5 and 0.75 to reactors?
Oh you meant changing to the expanded crucibles
wont yazhenA with this much slowdown even worth it? math should be done, but i feel like just selling parts is more profitable
my hetonite output is so slow
same as pipes. no loss: .5 in all 4 directions. right as recipe asks
Where should you create hetonite/heavy xiranite? In the new sub-pac area?
how many crucible is needed to get the maximum effiency in producing xircon? is it just 1 or do you need 2?
yeah it's mostly about needing copper comp and xira comp since my entire current team uses it
rossi endmin wulf gilb
keep your copper, xircon and heavy xira together in the main PAC
use valley for light xira (you can fit 6 units there)
use stone for hetonite
In 3 directions you mean. Given the crappy precision on the offline calcs you want to try to split evenly between 2 as much as possible to prevent rounding errors
i do same 4 ore for blood, 2 for parts and use parts as needed for armor
i think i'm making too many yazhen
Stone? Copper? Am I forgetting lingo...
copper = cuprium
stone = marker stone (new area)
make like a madman and fit literally everything in main pac. use 0 subpac. it's genuinely doable.
Well, the line for Acid is going to be a pain for that.
I flood myself with powder cuz i still have to pickup yazhen and jincao from world. Cant dump them into the depot if they are full
No way you can fit all the plant production in main with 6 lines...
it's like 10-15 minutes of one time work
mhm
when producing xircon do you need 2 crucible or just 1?
it's honestly negligible, but yeah
You can produce at half efficiency with 1.
yo can just 1 expanded crucible achieve max output of xircon? seems like it cant of the 2-1 formula
240 cuprium/min for a single gearing unit making hetonite components at full uptime 
But you can just make 4 sets.
The forbidden lingo
single belt xircon needs two expanded crucible
why expanded
It's possible to use one expanded crucible
what sort of liquid to hook to the second crucible?
It is, but it doesn't work at full efficiency.
To do 3 reactions in a single unit
If you are pro you can do 4 to xircon
So to make a full efficient line of Xircon you need 2 crucibles.
Hmm new weekly income is 14.7m not counting elastic which is just barely enough to buy out the catalysts
It's exactly the same efficiency as 2
wasn't there a button that lets you click through pipes/hide pipes in top down mode?
Not sure if i missed anything
That's what I'm saying though. 
You can make Xircon with 1 crucible but it only works at half efficiency. So just slap 4 if you want to make 2 lines of xircon for batteries.
No? The efficiency is the same
Each reactor is worth 15/min xircon
With 2, you get 30
I'm answering this question.

Can you run the same formula twice at the same time?
that’s the part where it helps me
Nope
spaces mean that sewage is clogged and i fucked ip
No, it's one of each recipe at a time
no space means aic all good i didn’t fuck up
What does your sewage line look like?
But you can run 3 reactions at once and that's already a win
normally it would run just fine
in the rare event of offline tax it will tell me
so was trying to use to seed picking unit to create more of that plant used for talent upgrade and why tf isnt it accepting it is there a stronger seed picking unit i wasnt made aware of?
That means it was never consistent. So where does it clog when you find it?
how do yall make hetonite parts?
usually to the effluent line
those plants aren't usable in factory
I merged only like 4 though
Is it leading to a purifier or are you just treating it
not sure if its just the residue from whenever it clogs making it input liquid at a faster ra
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so i have to pick them manually for fucks sake
if you progress Dijiang you can plant them there
anyways thanks to whoever posted this
lol
psoted the image where they just put the refining unit elsewhere
i didnt think the solution would be so fucking basic
Oh wait I think I get it
You're making the most out of the pipe's flow rate?
Then what are those 3 reactions you can run at the same time?
does anyone have a much more compact design than this... this
so that should do it?
And where is the output of that manifold
raw
You cut down the number of crucibles
how many xircon production i need for maximum eff with 12/min battery?
60
I separate the part and final product so it takes less space I guess. Just more Depo slots.
Yeah that's splitting evenly so it's fine
Wait someone might get this for you im a bit busy atm but will answer when im free asap
- Each final production makes 6 ea so you need 1 full xircon line for each.
Do the Expanded Crucible Simulation and they go over it 
Input: clean water + sewage + shredded ferrium + xiranite. Output 2 green liquids + xircon.
If only they increased the oregano yield enough for a 3rd line of sc
@quasi locust
Water Xiranite -> Xiranite Liquid
Xiranite Liquid + Sewage -> Xircon Effluent + Inert Xircon Effluent
Xircon Effluent + Ferrium -> Xircon + Sewage
Basically these 3.
Yah
Don't do simulations
Ask questions answered by simulations
Yeah it’s just there to be used.
thank you I understand now
No wonder that thing eats up 100 power holy crap
Yes but you need 1 more xircon fluid to run at 100% efficiency

I’m greedy about the expanded crucible and hope we could output 2 separate things on the conveyor
Well I got my answer outside of those 
i'm stealing this and making my own modifications
I mean yes, 1 reactor to make xircon and the 2nd reactor to make all 3 formulas
does using second extended only for xircon make same 30/m?
yeah im more into "2 xircon + 2 effluent helper" than "4 half-xircom"
yeah...
What's effluent helper
if not then i won't have enough effluent
another effluent maker
production very stable, all set until last tech unlock
one reactor that gives 30/min xircon effluent to the single xircon maker
anyone have belt timing simulation?
i did saw here, but i forogot to save it
Oh xircon fluid
Still unsure what to do with my excess xiranites. With the slower battery production (meta transfers) and no spare resource to use, I can only pretty much hoard and sell excess xiranites (raw)
does everybody run out of hetonite parts?
chat why is this only half efficiency
Smaller footprint and less pipe spaghetti while still maintaining the same power consumption
where 1 xircon + 3 0.33 xircon gang
use peak larger than yield peak, most likely you're using more than you can make
I feel like they did that so your liquid xiranite doesn't get stolen by some random game bug
Well.... we don't have enough Cuprium mining for full efficiency.
You need 8 Cuprium lines for full efficiency. So 4 lines = half.
inert xircon for heavy xiranite also same 4/m that way?

inert liquids lol
check acid
hetonite? cuz you need 8 ore to have 2 strawberry. and we only have 6
do you guys 7 xira forge then 1 heavy forge?
4 crucs should be enough, no?
can i eat the strawberry
wdym? whats your current yield?
oh you mean 3/min hetonite? you need 8 cup for that
15/m
CONGRATS ||idk the context||
for regular hetonite, parts are 3/m
same here
to make the actual hetonite you need 2 hetonite solutions
because it's require 2 puryfier to make hetonite efficiently.
an entire line of 4 crucibles for the purification unit makes only 1 so that's one half
you need 240 cuprium for a single 6/m hetonite parts line
oh that's NICE
tried to make 13.25 sc / min but I can't find a way to split sewage to 6.25/min for 5 reactors setup
had to cope with 6 reactors for now 
is it really impossible to pwm with SC battery?
I feel like 2 / min lc is better bc it's easier to pwm
90/min?
guys????? do anyone have pwm belt??
is that 2.25 heto parts/min or
1.5 part
[SUPAXIRHEMANITE]EFO01ouiO3a7456EiIieO Copy it and use it in the game.
...
Aia btw
that's nice thanks a lot!
i finally got bothered enough to move the effluent line right next to xircon line
only took
https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1qykhof/a_full_guide_on_advanced_aic_power_management/ idk

mines like this
um
i cant see whats wrong with your factory
thanks a very lot...?
2 years later when it's 3.0 or 4.0 and people are probably still using up to LC wulings for their PWM unless they're expanding on the max reserve power, 100k is just not enough
2 years later
all valley 4 lines are converted to battery line

2 years later
EOS
no, i mean customizing on belt putput timing.
i see some beautiful piece of artworks there
yea ikr
Is this 11/24? can anyone help me check?
FWIW i am using SC wulings for my PWM and i am wasting like 200W or something
why you need to split 5, just 4 normal and 1 you pwm
imagine HC wuling that gives 6.4k power
i want to know asw
any clogging?
excuse me what
wanna see the full picture?
mhm yes
anyone have a fully optimize AIC factory for 1.2 with all the new stuff crafting?
my lc production is at 0 now
the heavy xira doesnt have a color pallete yet
belt speed customize when

wdym?
I don't think that's true
you only need 60/min ferrium for 12/min battery
you can make 3 xircon lines if you want
OH NVM
hetonite is for tryhards
bro...

i haven't update my factory since early 1.1
you're next
jokes aside i really want to taste test AIC products
wait really?
i just finished fixing the reactor garbage
i wanna drink some hetonite
Taste test Acid in a bottle 
"drink" yeah sure...
hey it sounds like gatorade or some shit
those wulingers would think it's an energy drink
it works
ok bro...
i tried connecting directly before. theres still no color
anyway originium looks like cheese... ig
ok added
what are you talking about bro
the color is right there
i saw that
this is my final output curve for now
salad liquid
why delete lol
this one looks edible ngl
looks nice
use the 3 amethysts bro smh
are you making yazhne c?
anyway gotta go to sleep now it's pitch black outside cya guys 
cause if not, the ferrium is sus
no I'm not bothering
just stockpiling it
I split the line into heronite in half
you should only be using 75/min ferrium if your heto parts are 3/min
ye I still use 75 I just split that line of powder in half
ye
might as well
depot it out later
Stashed powders are good for deliveries
make a separate stash for that powder
anyway
after looking at reactors for hours
I leave you with one piece of advice
don't fucking feed them more than 15/m of sewage under any circumstances
you WILL kill them
ye
what did u do?
💀
I split 1 line of sewage into half for the xircon crucibles
youre making 15/min xircon for every reactor?
nothing I've been debugging like 4 different bases in the planner people sent
that's why I'm still using the old 5 crucible setup for xircon
less hassle
you just feed it 30/m clean
have all 4 make it at 15/m each
completely killed the old reactor code and made it anew



