aic-factory

[bright ocean]

guys have anyone made xircon w the expanded crucible yet? I wanna copy

[ruby sorrel]

ig that's where we get the missing 60/min

[keen river]

during the live stream week ago

https://www.youtube.com/live/tMFGowIF8eA?si=su4F6bHExk2ExeP1&t=2253

[sacred berry]

im a bit lost, can someone tell me, low/mid/high purity, how much /min each ore deposit with that rarity be?

[bright ocean]

If I accidentally glitched in isit illegal

[ruby sorrel]

low is 10/min high is double

[prisma hazel]

so fluid pump cant be close each other since it will unstable flow for all?

[ruby sorrel]

so prediction is it's another pair of high low like marker stone for the missing 2 lines of cuprium to reach 1 line of hetonite ig

eh I think I'll just entirely rebuild my cuprium stuff when update drops instead of doing it now

[sacred berry]

it doesnt work this way, too close it will prohibit u from placing them

[keen river]

i wish there was some place to report minor geometry bugs

[sacred berry]

each pipe can only be split into two, if a facility needs 1 pipeline

maybe u can try giving us more upward of the view

[mighty yacht]

wym, thats clearly the rare grass species that grows outwards

[tall tangle]

so uh... how far behind trends is that?

[prisma hazel]

just wondering why this left side xyranite so slow while right one optimal even tho its a copy

[sacred berry]

from what i see, 1 fluid pump is split to 4?

for the left side, top fluid pump from picture 1

[vast iron]

What are your times for the new alluvium?

Curious

[quartz pagoda]

arent i supposed to have 1 leftover Xiranite line that i can use to make Xiranite Components?
it says im using 1 Xiranite output above my limit.
what am i doing wrong?

[keen river]

huh, want a fun fact

the way to new map has an unique invisible wall

that has a ripple effect when you touch it

[quartz pagoda]

where?

[prisma hazel]

yeah its 4 facility (1 water=2 plant, 2 xyranite) but its work sometime like right one

[keen river]

you can just parkour like this

[sacred berry]

yeah from what i see, the top fluid pump is split to 4, and the bottom is split to 2, you need to add another pump for the leftmost/middle pipeline

1 fluid pump can only be split into 2 pipelines for 100% efficiency

[quartz pagoda]

i need some math wizard to tell me what am i doing wrong

[spice oriole]

how to make Hetonite components

[prisma hazel]

yeah seems like that, now the right side broke too 1 pump 2 facilities only ok

[keen river]

well, xiranie components use your xiranite

the "leftover xiranite" assumes you are only doing 12 SC batteries and nothing else

[quartz pagoda]

yean but im using 1 too many outputs = i have no leftover for Components

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[keen river]

yeah i mean

xiranite components use 2 xiranite belts

thats your excess 60 usage

[sacred berry]

what do u mean by broke? on the right side?

[wispy grove]

Do you treat your inert?

[quartz pagoda]

no

[quartz pagoda]

im using 1

[wispy grove]

factory reveal

[quartz pagoda]

oh boi, sure gimme a minute

[keen river]

if you dont treat your inert then thats the other lost belt of xiranite

[quartz pagoda]

or u mean this?

[quartz pagoda]

isnt that like 0.75 Xiranite?

[keen river]

no idea why you have 270 on potential usage, but that doesnt quite matter

nah, its a full belt if you treat all 4 outputs from SC batteries

[quartz pagoda]

dont worry, i have some builds i can turn on and off as i need them

[wispy grove]

"FACTORY"

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[quartz pagoda]

i see

[keen river]

basically

for the heavy xiranite, you either turn one belt of xiranite into the fluid, or you use the reprocessed inert from sc batteries

thats the belt that you ar emissing in your eqution

[quartz pagoda]

so i treat all 4 from SC batteries and feed the Xircon Effluent back into one of the SC factory lines instead of using 1 Xiranite belt

[keen river]

yeah

[wispy grove]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

[quartz pagoda]

thanks

[keen river]

or you can feed it into the forge making the heavy xiranite

either will work

[quartz pagoda]

thanks

[wispy grove]

you said youre not treating your inert?

[wispy grove]

[cobalt oriole]

Holy hell the bill gain is close this time

Without the extra deliveries

It’s like 1.66mil surplus

[alpine panther]

When do you get another +4 to sky forges?

[frigid breach]

Hydro mining rigs don't need power? Only the pumps

[split yoke]

hey the process taking 2s means i can use just one depot unloader and split the curpium into 2 fitting units right??

[cobalt oriole]

Nope 2s is same speed as belt. 1 to 1

[split yoke]

aight

[cobalt oriole]

Belts move 0.5units/s

[keen river]

you can also do the enka special if you want to save some energy, but its an overkill if you have already working factory and can just plugin the purification unit into the SC battery lines

[split yoke]

what about when we use the splitter

[keen river]

belts are also 1 item / 2 seconds so its just 1 belt in, 1 belt out

[split yoke]

ok

[keen river]

if you split it will be 0.5 items / 2 seconds so you will underfeed the factory

[split yoke]

1 item / 2 seconds gotcha

[wispy grove]

do you story after that you can upgrade the stage 3 of aic then find dancing balloons

[split yoke]

yes

[keen river]

pretty much the only thing that makes sense to split/merge are the batteries

[split yoke]

thanks a lot

[mighty yacht]

I understand how steve jobs felt telling his employees to make the iphone smaller now, all those small gaps are killing me

[keen river]

since you make 0.2 from factory so you could merge 5 or supply 5 banks with single belt

[solid python]

Me splitting sewage treatment

[cobalt oriole]

You’re not using enough belt crossers for a compact setup

[mighty yacht]

ik, but i need to be smart enough first to plan the routes for the belts XD

[keen river]

tbh, it looks like there are definitely some optimization opportunities there

[cobalt oriole]

Also if you want to compact, the shredder for Sandleaf should be perpendicular to the Yazhen shredders

This allows you to basically leave only a 3 gap between yaz shredders and grinding units

While still feeding them all evenly

[keen river]

i guess you are going to feed 3 forges of the sky to make xiranite using this

[mighty yacht]

you mean like this?

[frigid breach]

What's the ratio for pumps to hydro rigs

[lament turtle]

1:2

[mighty yacht]

well for whats on there now yea, im trying to see if i can make a small bp that i can just place repeatedly

[sacred berry]

1 pump for 2 rigs

[keen river]

i think you could save at least 1 block of height

with some rearrangements

[hidden temple]

1 pump covers 3 high purity or 6 low purity
can just do 3 to futureproof stuff, unless you wanna minmax power consumption

1:2 is for production facilities, not hydro rigs

[cobalt oriole]

More smth like this. But I’m also a fan of external farms instead of built in farms

I’m talking about the grinding step

[keen river]

for example if you move the refining unit like this, then you can move the planter to the left

and this allows you to move whole right side down by block

and then you can also move the right side shredders by block by untangling the belts

[mighty yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[cobalt oriole]

Here’s my 90/min Xiranite setup. It’s not perfect but it’s a holdover for now

[mighty yacht]

i did look at that, but i moved the refinery lower not higher lol

[split yoke]

literally one block short lol, could've fit another unloader so beautifully in there

[split yoke]

i really need to stop using sandleaf for it

[mighty yacht]

i see, but i wanna try to make the farms part of the build so that i dont need depot buses, ill definitely try to abuse bridges more

[keen river]

you can then try to move whole shredder stack to the right and this will allow you to route belts more easily

[cobalt oriole]

Yeah. Notice I don’t stick to the 1 line for everything rule. This lets me Basically make the setup long and skinnier instead of 6 grinders side by side

[keen river]

which should compress it by one block overall

[cobalt oriole]

Do not be afraid of moving your shredders out of straight lines

Of moving anything out of straight lines tbh

[keen river]

yeah

[split yoke]

[cobalt oriole]

Oh god the depot bus space wastage

[upper fiber]

such a waste of sandleaf

[split yoke]

[cobalt oriole]

Make some darn Yaz brother

[split yoke]

i'll move on to using yazhen at some point, just started making wuling factories yesterday lol

but those depot buses still look so nice

[lofty hedge]

do mk2 pumps take more power?

[cobalt oriole]

My personal philosophy is more depots is bad unless it takes a plant loophole out of the setup

[cobalt oriole]

Think so yeah

[keen river]

yeah

mk1 is 10, mk2 is 20

[cobalt oriole]

I just hate built in plant loops

[solid python]

My factory with no depot bus (old factory)

[lofty hedge]

also no purity increase anywhere except the marker region riight

[mighty yacht]

i forgot about the jin farm at the bottom left, i cant move that to the right because the pipe needs to be there

[split yoke]

i'm tryna use more depots for anything i can and inlet outlets are just another depot bus to me

[cobalt oriole]

Er I think some of the cuprium increase comes from old veins but don’t quote me

[split yoke]

complex looking factories are so fun to look at

[keen river]

there should be space for it?

[cobalt oriole]

I really need to remake my Xircon Setup soon

So much space saving with expanded crucibles

[lofty hedge]

i need to cheeck everyhing then

[cobalt oriole]

Nah just get to lvl 10 and check

[lofty hedge]

i am already

im checking

[solid python]

It is. I just did that yesterday.

[cobalt oriole]

Goes from like 4 per line to 2 or smth right?

[keen river]

after the change, the planters should e like this?

[cobalt oriole]

And the excess inert can turn into HXira

[solid python]

Plus all the pipes I got rid of

[cobalt oriole]

I think the Sandleaf shredder should be perpendicular but that’s a personal opinion

[wet cloud]

Ok so looking at the 3 optimized wuling bases in the thread I still don't know which is which do y'all have a recommendation what to build

[keen river]

well sure

[deft orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-ghehe-reptile-laughing-gif-gif-26223253

[cobalt oriole]

Cos as it is the gap between shredders and grinders is going to be like 5 long

Or 4

Definitely not that beautiful 3 gap

[solid python]

What are you planning with those acid bottles?

[keen river]

the bigger problem is that you will be missing belt of the shredder sandleaf right

[sacred berry]

i was contemplating if i should use the bottled acid trick so i can bring acid back to core aic

someone actually did it haha

[cobalt oriole]

Actually the acid bottle tech is a good idea

[deft orbit]

moving piss from one place to another huehue, just because I wanted to use the god-damn separating unit for once xD

[cobalt oriole]

You can basically port acid to main aic

[solid python]

Oh, actually it's the output

[cobalt oriole]

Using filling then separating

Peak tech

[keen river]

you can feed 6 grinders worth of carbon with your setup

[sacred berry]

and the bottle get recycled back in the new map

[keen river]

but you only have 3 belts of shredded sandleaf

[deft orbit]

this is besides the piss pool

[sacred berry]

no need a ferrium output for the bottles

[sacred berry]

nice idea bro, i was thinking about it now im motivated to do it XD

[deft orbit]

I haven't tested if it's off-line proof, but it should work fine

[sacred berry]

to be honest it should be since its 1:1 ratio all the way

[cobalt oriole]

If you leave a buffer I don’t see why it wouldn’t work

Like 10k excess bottles of piss should be enough

[sacred berry]

^ so it doesnt lag from the cross-transporting

[deft orbit]

I'm more concerned about the conveyors going slower while offline

[solid python]

Does it work with Cryston bottles? Ferrium is a scarce resource.

[mighty yacht]

it does get a little smaller, but then the second to last shredder on the right cant get fed

[shell hinge]

You could, but bottled sewage is easier

[keen river]

i see, yeah

[deft orbit]

it works with any bottle

[keen river]

unfortunate

[sacred berry]

metastorage the bottle from V4

or just make it there like a whole bag, then move it manually for a buffer

[cobalt oriole]

It’s to make heto in main aic

[keen river]

still, you are missing one more set of planters fro another sandleaf line no?

[mighty yacht]

welp, thx for trying, lets see how long it takes for my chungus brain to figure out how to make 7 lines in a 50x50

[deft orbit]

BETTER YET, metastorage amethyst bottles xDD

[keen river]

i guess with that in mind you probably wwill need to reaarange it abit more

[cobalt oriole]

Just produce more pee bottles than u need then. It’s not like it’ll clog the other side

[cobalt oriole]

I have 68k ferrium bottles I can afford to spend it

[mighty yacht]

yea, someone said 7 lines i sbtter so now i gotta worry about another sandleaf excess again

[solid python]

I'm meta transferring Dense Originium Powder until they patch it

[deft orbit]

nono, my concern is not bottle quantity, is the belts moving them going slower during off-line, which could screw things

[shell hinge]

But why is that useful? You could make hetonite in the sub aic instead

[river wadi]

until what is patched

[solid python]

The amount you receive per hour

[cobalt oriole]

Bcos I can

It’s tech

[deft orbit]

I don't think they are gonna patch it, that loks like is staying

[shell hinge]

I guess? I'd run a conduit line if you really want that

[wispy grove]

Preparing for sewage maxing in test area

[cobalt oriole]

Merge the pee lines and overclock feeding them into crucibles too

[shell hinge]

I bottle sewage to move it to main aic for this reason. I even have a conduit preplaced for it lol

[sacred berry]

so you dont need to move your entire xircon lines (assuming u have them there), so we can use the inert xircon effluent to make xircon effluent input for heavy xiranite, then make liquid heavy xiranite

[cobalt oriole]

Overclocking pee doesn’t actually hurt the setup unlike sewage

[shell hinge]

Or just output heavy xiranite in the subaic?

Heavy xiranite is an easy to move item

[wispy grove]

thats better than pipe across wuling

[solid python]

That's what I did.

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[shell hinge]

I literally can't run a conduit across wuling. No protocol capacity

I originally planned to, but bottled sewage is now my primary solution lol

[deft orbit]

yeye that's is done. The thing is that since I'm using 1.5/s pee (1 extractor has a dispenser so it works at 0.5/s), the pee is precise without any clogs.

and that may cause slows during offline

not sure

[sacred berry]

yes after you produce them in the core aic, so make the liquid in the sub aic

[shell hinge]

Yup

Heavy xiranite is only ever used manually rn

[sacred berry]

its just him min maxing inert xircon effluent

[shell hinge]

You can do that without moving acid

[sacred berry]

i mean, yes, idk if the inert can be bottled up and transported, he was thinkign the other way around ig

if it works, it works haha

[shell hinge]

I don't understand, why is inert even relevant?

The processes with inert and the processes with acid are not linked by fluids

[solid python]

You can put a Quad Xiranite factory in the Outpost and get 4 inert xircon from that.

[sacred berry]

4 inert xircon effluent = 1 xircon effluent + 1 water

[shell hinge]

There is no reason to have them near each other

[ionic pollen]

you can purify the inert and feed it into the hvy xir line

[shell hinge]

You don't need effluent for liquid heavy xiranite?

You can just take heavy xiranite from depot and add acid

It's very simple

[sacred berry]

we can now purify 4 inert xircon effluent to make 1 xircon effluent

[wispy grove]

I USED WATER

FU

[sacred berry]

freeing 1 forge of the sky

[terse zodiac]

Guys, rate my complete mess.

[wispy grove]

MY FACTRY NEEDS CLEANING AGAIN

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-gif-9549451645697661034

[solid python]

Acid is for use with Cuprium Powder, not Xiranite

[sacred berry]

heavy xiranite need 2 lines of xiranite and 1 line of xircon effluent

[shell hinge]

The question is about moving acid. How does anything involving effluent result in needing to move acid to main aic?

[latent kayak]

I have an extra 30/min of xircon effluent, any ideas on what I can do with that? Half efficient zirconite?

[sacred berry]

hes essentially moving the acid to core aic to just pool everything there for easy management

[sacred berry]

put them into heavy xiranite line, so u can free 1 forge of the sky

[shell hinge]

That seems fundamentally risky/flawed due to the facility limit

You want to keep stuff spread out now

[solid python]

Just tear down your ziplines

[latent kayak]

The heavy xiranite line is producing half of the inert making that extra effluent lol

[wispy grove]

yeah facility limit will haunt u

[sacred berry]

heavy xiranite line should not be making inert

2 xircon line makes 4 inert, and those 4 inert are perfect to fill 1 heavy xiranite line

[ionic pollen]

I'm hoping hc battery makes xircon obsolete

[solid python]

It's basically just add Ferrium powder

[latent kayak]

that makes sense, but now I'm confused on how my factory is using all of its xiranite lol. Time to remodel i guess

[shell hinge]

We'll probably get xircon mk2

[upper fiber]

i'm reaching 512 limit by moving the acid to main

[solid python]

Maybe HC Wuling batteries will be: add Hetonite powder

[sacred berry]

4 xiranite belts should be feeding xircon line, 2 belts feeding heavy xiranite line, so thats a total of 180/min?

[ionic pollen]

If I think about the analogies:
xircon is a mixture of ferrium and cuprium
hetonite is essentially steel
so what i'm guessing is that xircon mk2 is going to be a mix of hetonite and originum

[latent kayak]

Not the setup I have, yet I'm using 180/min anyway. I'll probably switch to yours, it makes so much more sense lol

[quartz pagoda]

what is going on with this teleport?

[keen river]

they added that area in new upgrade

[latent kayak]

Right now I have 3 xiranite feeding a heavy xira line. The inert from that is being purified to fuel a xircon line

[keen river]

you can just go there

not sure if you need the quest or onot

but if you do it should be something like "Fan Meet"

its a bunch of puzzles and loot boxes basically

[sacred berry]

ah maybe its that, you can cut 1 xiranite and replace with inert

[deft orbit]

I think this is more AFK friendly than going full on Hetonite

[upper fiber]

both need more than 1 week afk to be clogged

[solid python]

Hetonite is AFK friendly too

[deft orbit]

this is even more since it's practicaly imposible to get to 68K xD

[sleek hollow]

is there an easier way to power these rigs or nah

[sacred berry]

use conduits?

[sleek hollow]

oh shit you're right

i totally forgot

[drifting hearth]

[upper fiber]

dang 1 conduit per rig

[sacred berry]

bro why did u pull the water from so far away XD

[deft orbit]

centralization xD, the closer everything is to the areas where I buid, the better

[drifting hearth]

what

[sacred berry]

i can understand why u port acid to core aic area now hahaha

[solid python]

To save on relay towers

[deft orbit]

😁

[hidden temple]

I thought you were minmaxing fluid pump yield and power consumption but that's a wild answer lol

[upper fiber]

for wuling yeah, new area i barely place anything

[deft orbit]

It all makes sense when you think of this game as a Tetris, every outpost is a layout and you have to fill it with tetris pieces, just that instead of removing lines, you make bateries to sell to outposts xD

remindme more to Unpacking than to Satisfactory, for example

[sacred berry]

i kinda suck in minmaxing space too for factory building, kinda know how it works, but dont know how to build properly

[deft orbit]

have you seen my V8 engine batery layout? xD

i posted it a few hours ago, just asking just in case

[sacred berry]

not yet XD

[solid python]

It takes hours of building and rebuilding

[sacred berry]

my bro :>

[deft orbit]

this is what I mean with Tetris, packing a layout in a centralized area instead of having fatories spread across an open world like satisfactory

[ruby sorrel]

just haphazardly slap things together and call it a day

[sacred berry]

its so symmetrical XD

ima just rebuild after the new area comes out, since the one im using rn is good enough to drain outposts

[deft orbit]

hey, if it works, it works, no need to superspecify a layout, that's the thing, it's an empty space, fill it the way it tickles your almonds

[sacred berry]

because even 10hrs of straight building is not enough for me knowing how bad i am at space management

[ruby sorrel]

piping horror is fun

[upper fiber]

why they're off

[modern swallow]

hey chat, how many lc wuling battery do u guys produce per min?

[upper fiber]

0

[sacred berry]

we are making SC batteries sir

[ruby sorrel]

cus I'm making medA

[modern swallow]

oh mb im still starting to work on my factory. how many sc batt per min u producing?

[ruby sorrel]

tbh if I move all that +xircon over to acidpac I could adjust everything from the same spot....

kinda lazy though

but I set up reactors so I can individually turn them on/off which caused all the pipe logistics crap

[sacred berry]

i forgot ser, and cant open game for now

[ruby sorrel]

maybe it's more aesthetic if I move all the reactors to this place

[sacred berry]

but i have 2 battery lines

i think that means 12/min

[hoary crag]

yup that's 12/min

[solid python]

I think I'm around 13.25/min

[hoary crag]

vitamin cube meta transfer I assume?

[ruby sorrel]

am I the only crazy person who does meta pyramids for comps

[hoary crag]

who knows?

I'm doing ferrium meta atm until I have the time to build the 1.25min SC line

[solid python]

That is crazy because you can meta double the Dense Originium Powder and then refine it to Pyramids

[hoary crag]

how much dense ori is it per hour btw?

when using meta

[solid python]

1500

[vale creek]

How can i split water tubes into 2 so i can put them on the hydrominer

[solid python]

25/min

[sacred berry]

use a pipe splitter

[solid python]

Top left is the AIC/Explore button to go into the build menu

[shell hinge]

You can't do that because comps use dense origocrust powder. It's still more efficient of course

[hidden temple]

aic mode(tab) -> facility list(z) -> pipe splitter

[solid python]

It's the same product line

I've been doing it

[ruby sorrel]

that's why I said I'm crazy

I should just make more while we have extra xiranite

[storm garnet]

ehm.. does someone have a 1 to 4.8 balancer

just normal needs

i guess i need to balance the digits separately

[shell hinge]

What is this for and what exactly do you want? Fractional belt outputs is not really a thing that can be done easily

[ruby sorrel]

I tell ya for weird numbers just let it clog based on limiting the other input so it bounces the amount you want elsewhere

[storm garnet]

i need a 6.25 belt

i don't even know if math is right anymore

[ruby sorrel]

is this heto comps or sth

[storm garnet]

i just throw numbers to the calculator

the ferrium for extra sc with dense ori meta

[ruby sorrel]

yeah just clog it

[shell hinge]

Just send a full belt lol

Let it clog

[storm garnet]

i can't, it produces extra xircon

if xircon gets full in depot, everything will stop

[hoary crag]

go to facility list and drag it to your hotbar

[shell hinge]

Why would that stop things?

[solid python]

Here's the conversions for Dense Originium Powder.

[lusty violet]

don't send the xircon to the depot? if it goes straight to the SCW the metatransfer will be limiting things anyway

[storm garnet]

actually, let me think that again

[shell hinge]

Even if it did, we have very little excess ferrium

You would produce 1.25/min excess xircon

A month of that is only 54k

[lilac tusk]

What's the upper limit for production ya'll are reaching for the new gear material?

[storm garnet]

i'm producing 20 extra xircon atm

[lilac tusk]

I'm on like 2.25 a min and just can't figure out how to pump it up

Oh I mean the...

[storm garnet]

i guess it will balance if dense ori runs out

[ruby sorrel]

yeah just skip depot so things clog and it'll limit it

[lilac tusk]

Thing for crafting

my brain is not braining at 4 am, forgot the name

sorry

[shell hinge]

That's the max

[ruby sorrel]

2.25 is max sustainable heto

[lilac tusk]

thank you

[silent violet]

is it possible to make enough bills to buy out both outposts?

[shell hinge]

Yes

[lilac tusk]

easily yeah

And then some

[ruby sorrel]

yeah outposts is like 80%

as usual

[deft orbit]

which one does look more visualy good?
left is more simple but...

[lilac tusk]

[storm garnet]

i'll calc if my depot will fill with xircon before it runs out of ori...

if it doesn't fill, then i guess it doesn't matter

[crude nebula]

Do you guys do v1.2 by just adding the new component to the existing v1.1 base? Or fully rework on them all?

[lilac tusk]

Full rework on my end

Using Sub AIC with the pirates for Sandleaf farming

[crude nebula]

I see

[sacred berry]

for now im just adding sub aic that just works, then will rework everything after last map opens

[storm garnet]

wait, no, i want the standard line to be at full speed and the extra one be slow

if the extra line goes faster cause of extra ferrium, then the other ones will not use all the sewage

[crude nebula]

Yeah i just use the new sub pac the same way, seem it works fine but a bit slowly

[storm garnet]

i would have to output and void the sewage from the standard xircon lines i guess?

wait, it won't work with expanded cause it outputs everything first

ffs

1.1 were simple times eh?

[lilac tusk]

Oh so simple

[solid python]

Small rework replacing old Reactors with new

[ruby sorrel]

full rework cus I had too much weird piping in 1.1 from crucible bug

and I didn't like the look of my orig+sandleaf setup anyways

[sacred berry]

i just cant, with the pain of reworking it again when the new resource comes out

[storm garnet]

i just realized the place i should do a bottleneck is the liquid xiranite, not the ferrium powder...

[solid python]

Yeah, I think I'm using 88/90 Ferrium Powder due to Hetonite limits.

[crude nebula]

I think i might need to pull acid pipe for wuling AIC, is the one closest is at the bottom of wuling city?

I hadnt clear chap 6 yet, so some map still covered by cloud

[ornate sorrel]

have anyone accidentally lost their decoration item during AIC factory stashing?

[ruby sorrel]

well reworks are pretty fast cus I alr know how the entire thing works

[storm garnet]

wait, i can just fix everything if i just balance the powder to be less than 50%, cause the normal xircon lines get double ferrium than needed since they work at half speed and get full belt

so if i just slow down below 50% the extra xircon, then the og ones get full priority

[shell hinge]

If you need 6.25/min, just do 25 then split twice

[storm garnet]

i can also balance a bit the powder going into hetonite too so it's not at 100% either

[sacred berry]

youre gonna pull pipes all the way to core aic???

[ornate sorrel]

yeah ok i think i misplaced or lost the table, fucckk

[shell hinge]

New sub aic has acid next to it, do acid stuff there

[storm garnet]

even 99% for hetonite should make normal xircon be a priority for powder

[crude nebula]

Yeah just in case i rework main AIC and need acid

[vale topaz]

both, rework and adding.
adding another copy paste xiranite blueprint, while reworking xircon line and yazhen A line

[sacred berry]

sir, just move it with conduit, or port it with bottles and separate

[solid python]

They haven't unlocked the area

[crude nebula]

I mean im going v1.0 piping here, gonna make wuling's downtown yellow

[sacred berry]

oh right mb, then goodluck with the pipes XD

[crude nebula]

As bonus obj

[vale topaz]

really want to change every alluvium with mortar

[lilac tusk]

Well basically:
ya'll think I could optimize this more?

[quaint echo]

Are other 2 new defenses okay/nah when compared with mortar?

[worldly holly]

you dont need that much heto comp, save some heto and Hxira for outpost and why do you using so much power

[crude nebula]

Is thwre a new acid pool on the northeast side of wuling city?

[quaint echo]

Heto comp just only need 1000-2000

[lilac tusk]

[solid python]

Nope

[lilac tusk]

I was gonna leave it to stockpile to max and not think about it ever again

but yeah you right

you 100% right

[solid python]

The acid pool is next to the new AIC

[crude nebula]

Only there huh

[storm garnet]

great news guys! 512 limit in wuling city is back!

[dawn flax]

the piss pool

made of decayed aggelois

[lilac tusk]

Okay I shut off the Heto comp production thing

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-kento-nanami-beach-gif-419261357921649897

[storm garnet]

i'll pray i don't have extra ideas to add to the factory in the main aic...

[lilac tusk]

Time to make big bank

[storm garnet]

actually, i'll move a few things to the new aic, there is a ton of space

[crude nebula]

The component production really eat all the cuprium

[dawn flax]

well the Heto machineries is best located at the new-sub-AIC , next to the piss-pool it need

[lilac tusk]

I kinda just put all of the comp productions into wuling city ngl

Easier to shut off and turn off everything as I need it

than to move from base to base

[quaint echo]

Too much relay, pylon & zipline

[storm garnet]

i forgot again i still need to use the effluent somewhere if i don't make solid xircon with it...

[quaint echo]

Also farm💀

[storm garnet]

no farm

[crude nebula]

I put the final recipe on main AIC, but all the smaller stuff on sub AIC

[shrewd knoll]

wuling citizens appreciate it if you run a piss pipe through their city to warm it up as their xiranite addiction needs an intervention

[latent kayak]

wait, doesn't a heavy xiranite only require 2 inert?

[quaint echo]

Please hg i need this, my wuling city is kinda homeless

[crude nebula]

They prepare one pool at the south of wuling for it

[storm garnet]

it needs 4

so it makes 1 not inert

[dawn flax]

fill the deep-abandoned cavern with pure piss

[storm garnet]

i'm making 2.25 effluent, totally not a problem, yea...

[quaint echo]

We need some dedicated guy to fill that cave with piss and flavour of americans

[inland ruin]

can the expanded crucible do two of the same recipie at the same time?

[worldly holly]

or Hxira liquid as premium option

[dawn flax]

Americans...in chinese land of Wuling...

[crude nebula]

With heavy liquid xiranite to show how rich you are

[storm garnet]

i might end up needing to void effluent, which should not be a thing, since it's basically deleting xiranite

[quaint echo]

Oil, we need oil

[dawn flax]

fair

[storm garnet]

so i still need to bottleneck xiranite

[ionic pollen]

i believe it can do any number of recipes, provided the number of unique materials doesn't exceed...8?

[storm garnet]

for the liquid xiranite

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-oil-up-bro-oil-up-oil-bro-gif-6299131414960869371

[bright ocean]

Guys do we have any blueprint for making xiron in expanded crucible yet

[dawn flax]

i rewired existing SC Wuling battery manufacturing to run with only 1 cuprium refinery

[inland ruin]

trying to run this at full speed with 120 cuprium/min

[crude nebula]

I left my v1.1 setup alone and add v1.2 setup because i felt like its a bit of waste of time

[quaint echo]

Too much oil & electric usage

[dawn flax]

i also recycle the piss from Purification process back to that

[crude nebula]

But who knows, maybe future me will do the work

[quaint echo]

Same bro, i still using 5 reactors for xircon lmao

[crude nebula]

I put some of those v1.2 crafting in main AIC somehow

[storm garnet]

ok, i decided i will do the liquid xiranite balancing here instead of the aic

[ruby sorrel]

but why

[storm garnet]

i'll turn off 1 pump and split most of the other pump back in

i just need it to make liquid xiranite slowly

once the pool fills, solid xiranite will fill, then with both filled, i can switch to 2 heavy xiranite setup until they empty out

[dawn flax]

now, if we could manufacture the Liquor, Zhuang Fangyi drank, and get drunk on

[crude nebula]

And get good

[marble yarrow]

join the dark side: main aic with acid and full hetonite prod

[crude nebula]

I will when the future me have the energy to set this up, or future patch dropped

Thats why im preparing everthing for future me to enjoy

[quaint echo]

Nvermind, I don't wanna mods warn me again in dm

[brave dock]

Guys, do I still need to produce LC batteries once I'm producing SC

[quaint echo]

No, better use sc only

[crude nebula]

Sc and meds A thats all

[jovial breach]

devs listened, glory to hg

[crude nebula]

The rest goes to component for me

[marble yarrow]

you stop LC when you are outpost lvl3 in jingyu

[quaint echo]

You can still producing meds c with ferrium metastorage from Valley-IV

[brave dock]

In that case I will have to start from scratch

[crude nebula]

Yeah i also do that for backup cash

[thorny galleon]

??
What the heck? Why are my outposts down?

[ruby sorrel]

hmm I've put down a placeholder line for event items but it seems kinda silly

[quaint echo]

Please hg we beg you to create the recipe of new batteries with heavy xiranite & hetonite parts

[marble yarrow]

instead of meta transferring ferrium, you can meta transfer dense ori in this patch, since there is excess xiranite, then you can mix 25 dense with 8.333 xiranite for 1.6667 LC (it just needs an unloader and a packaging unit)

[vale topaz]

the acid thrower is nice due to lower resist.
the new yellow laser is just for element variation.
both laser and mortar are 8 sec cooldown.

[quaint echo]

Are acid thrower is aoe or just single target?

[storm garnet]

very normal setup

[thorny galleon]

Oh my god I maxed out my yazhen syrnges so I stopped making waste water

[vale topaz]

not at front of pc to read description.
think it is an aoe like the prrvious slow tower, just without DOT and slow part

[storm garnet]

imagine not doing that and not having to think about all this, can't be me haha

who the fuck told me to make extra sc

ah, yes, me to myself

[thorny galleon]

Is there any way to mass-void a resource? I want to clear out my syrnges so that I don't risk stopping wastewater creation

[marble yarrow]

fuck SC, too many facility

[ruby sorrel]

yeah destroy them from depot

[storm garnet]

facilities are whatver, balancing is the issue

but i think i'm done

i think...

[thorny galleon]

tyty

[storm garnet]

i need to wait for the excess liquid xiranite on the pipes to run out to check though

[river wadi]

Sell them

[storm garnet]

oh, right, i would need to check the courtyard setup back to normal when i change things into the 2 heavy setup

[thorny galleon]

The outpost doesn't make enough credits to buy my stuff lol

[storm garnet]

god, why do you make me suffer like this

[thorny galleon]

Still need to set aside some time to do the 1.2 story

[storm garnet]

so, did you say lc?

[river wadi]

if you already make enough stuff to bankrupt all outposts then it shouldnt matter that much

[thorny galleon]

The problem is that when my syringes cap out, I'm not using cuprium stuff anymore, which means no more waste water

which means no more zircon. Which means no more batteries. Which means blackout. Which means no more stuff. Which means nothing to sell to outposts. Which means outposts cap out at credits

[quaint echo]

[crimson inlet]

how many puri units can you run for hetonite?

[quaint echo]

2 maximum output

[river wadi]

if your making 9 syringe per min with all 180 cuprium thats 11880 stock bills per hour worth of syringes. Level 3 sky king flats earns 26880 bills per hour so the outpost should not be running out of money before you run out of syringes

[thorny galleon]

I've been selling my batteries.

[storm garnet]

i'd need to connect those pipes and turn on the other pump when i change to 2 heavy setup

[river wadi]

then sell syringes first then bats

[crimson inlet]

2 puri?

[storm garnet]

actually, 1 pump is enough, so i guess i can skip the connecting pipes if i just turn on the other pump

[quaint echo]

Yea

[crimson inlet]

I've been having a massive delay with 2 puri for some reason

[deft orbit]

are you sure you don't prefere to fill that pool with piss? 🫵 🤨

[thorny galleon]

Dude, if I cared, I'd ask

[quaint echo]

My 50% hetonite layout like this lmao..

[storm garnet]

i can use the pool as an actual useful tank, so yea, i prefer liquid xiranite

[river wadi]

fill it with heavy liquid xiranite instead

[storm garnet]

piss is worked on in the new pac

heavy liquid is useless atm

[deft orbit]

how does it look like compared to normal xiranite?

[storm garnet]

maybe next patch or something

[river wadi]

its a more inventory space efficient version than liquid xiranite

[quaint echo]

Next patch we trust

[carmine whale]

why does current and theoritical data show diff?

[quaint echo]

16k powered battery with heavy xiranite

[storm garnet]

i'm not using the pool just for storage, but as buffer

i am using the liquid xiranite back in the aic

it goes both in and out

[deft orbit]

pumpers extract at 1/s, but the machines can't handle that much. Don't overthink it, focus on the curent almost alwayys

[ruby sorrel]

wait the ornaments don't count towards protocol capacity!

saved

[quaint echo]

talos-ii is healing

[deft orbit]

why tho?

[carmine whale]

wait looking at current is more viable? damn ive been doing shi wrong then

[storm garnet]

a normal tank is just 500, even if a use a lot fo tanks, it's not much and they count towards building limit

[river wadi]

using the pool waste power tho

[deft orbit]

yet we can only have 2 wavy wacky inflatable arm flailing tubeman... smh

[storm garnet]

i have power

it's not that much

i was even using 1 bank during 1.1 while doing this

now in 1.2 i just use 2 banks anyways

[deft orbit]

yeah but what is the purpose of that xiranite? what is the end goal?

[storm garnet]

to both make extra solid xircon and later use a second forge to make heavy xiranite

the second heavy xiranite is a temporary thing for when normal xiranite fills

if i fill the pool with liquid xiranite, the time it takes to fill the depot with xiranite decreases

[hoary crag]

imagine if they add yellow variants so you can trick yourself into thinking it's an unclaimed one every single time you see it

[storm garnet]

then it also increases the time for making heavy xiranite too

[frigid shuttle]

How much cuprium is there? I'm trying to produce 3 hetonite components and 6 SC Wuling batteries per minute at a cost of 300 cuprium/min (could optimize to 240) and it's absolutely cooking my reserves so I'm wondering what the maximum cuprium mining rate is

[storm garnet]

thus less switching

[river wadi]

why not just bottle the liquid xiranite and store it in the depot and when you need it use a separating unit

[hoary crag]

max is 180

[storm garnet]

are you using logic with me when a 40k pool exists?

(you got me there lol)

i still like using the pool though, but yea, that's the best option

[dull shard]

15/min battery as a result of dense ore overstock?

[storm garnet]

might use both options for even more time between switching

[hoary crag]

40k pool enthusiasts having to switch the pool liquid literally every patch

[river wadi]

Imagine if they put an event down there

[storm garnet]

still rocking liquid xiranite, might switch to heavy in the future

[hoary crag]

there was someone who filled it before clearing out all chests lol

[storm garnet]

many people fell for that

the good part is that since i'm using the pool to make things, it's easy for me to drain it

[rain schooner]

is there a reason the bps are not showing up in the bp menu? For example...there is no bp listed for the green gear component piece but there is one for the red and the newest one

[storm garnet]

i just stop supplying for a bit and it empties out

[storm garnet]

check if you did all the tutorials, or at least marked them as done

[hoary crag]

what's the difference between normal liquid xiranite and heavy xiranite visually btw?

[storm garnet]

haven't checked yet

[rain schooner]

you mean the aic tutorials? I did.

[crimson inlet]

turns out, I'm not using my conduits right

I'm mix and matching manifolds with regular conduits

[hoary crag]

rip

[rain schooner]

why are there so many bps missing from this list?

[crimson inlet]

and they fucked the throughput

[rain schooner]

am I missing something?

[storm garnet]

just checked, you are right, it jumps from amethyst components to cuprium

i guess they expect you to undestand how to set it up from the first one

bps come from the tutorials after all, it's not a full list of things

[hoary crag]

I mean yeah xiranite components are similar in production to V4 components, save for xiranite itself

[rain schooner]

annoying

sigh

[hoary crag]

I think they just give us copium components due to how copium is refined

[inland ruin]

is it not possible to produce hetonite at full speed with our current cuprium cap?

[jolly shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/977375938666958861/1495433603667198212/image.png?ex=69e63a92&is=69e4e912&hm=82027b0301d88c132fb1f676be5aeb216f827a3981922195770e8ac42dd33b26&

[hoary crag]

same for hetonite comps due to how hetonite is made

[hoary crag]

yup

[storm garnet]

even cuprium and hetonite just give you this as bp lol

[hoary crag]

30/min needs 240

we only have 180

[inland ruin]

this is normal then?

[hoary crag]

it should average out at 22.5/min so no

[pulsar cypress]

If u go all out heto..

[storm garnet]

15/min with 4 reactors, but you can use up to 6

[inland ruin]

I only have 4 reactors running atm

[storm garnet]

or just stay with 4 and use the rest of the cuprium for food or whatever

[hoary crag]

oh yeah then 15/min is normal

[pulsar cypress]

Then yess..

Btw.. We have 30/min extra xir right?
Even if doing meta orig block for lc bat, it wont consume 30/mins right?

[hoary crag]

yup

[pulsar cypress]

The ratio leftover and what to use it..

[hoary crag]

idk what I'm about to do with it yet myself

[pulsar cypress]

Im currently going all out 30/m xir lc bat..

[marble yarrow]

turn it into xircon effluent and bottle it

[pulsar cypress]

Sending ori block from v4..

[storm garnet]

true, i was only thinking of bottling liquid xiranite, if i bottle effluent then i don't need to bother with the courtyard

[pulsar cypress]

Somehow ori in v4 keep getting maxed even though it already equal yield/usage ratio.

[pulsar cypress]

Do u have the ratio of xir output?

[storm garnet]

17.5

[pulsar cypress]

Im kinda dumb in splitting it..

[storm garnet]

that's the leftover xiranite if making extra sc

21+2/3 (21.6666) if making lc

[pulsar cypress]

Me just use the dense + xir for lc type..

[marble yarrow]

8.3333 is used for LC

[pulsar cypress]

-_-)
Ugh.. How to split things like that..

[marble yarrow]

its 5/18th

[tribal crescent]

What can spare xiranite and ferrium do

[marble yarrow]

so unloader-3split-3split-2split

[storm garnet]

2 and 3 are the favorite prime numbers of the devs

anything above is shunned

[tribal crescent]

Ok but like

Do you really want to work with 7

[pulsar cypress]

Give tea + snack and let em rest while chatting inside depot..

[tribal crescent]

[storm garnet]

i'm in if we get a 7 way splitter

[tribal crescent]

Forbidden tech

[storm garnet]

actually, it seems 1 to 7 is not that big https://factoriobin.com/post/KafN8H7L/8

[ionic pollen]

gonna need z axis for that

[marble yarrow]

just let the ferrium accumulate, and have a standby full-line meds C that you can use while supplies last, then turn it off as it waits ferrium to accumulate

[tribal crescent]

Maybe i'll just sell pure xiranite

[ionic pollen]

you're going to need spare xir during the next update in may

[tribal crescent]

Helping out wuling

[marble yarrow]

xiranite would be used to craft bottles in the event

[tribal crescent]

Wait does marker stone buy xiranite

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc yess..

[ionic pollen]

xir and heavy xir, yes. And special parts too

[storm garnet]

lol https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fs3js7/you_know_what_screw_it_vertical_17_balancer/

it's not actually nsfw btw

[tribal crescent]

1:7 balancer is nsfw

[safe saffron]

guys I currently have max optimized 1.0 factory on wuling and V4 , do I need to build 1.1 and then 1.2 optimization?

[tribal crescent]

Uh

Yes

There's curpium

And more forges

[ionic pollen]

you need to start making sc batteries in wuling immediately

[tribal crescent]

Or idk you enjoy LC batt gaming ig

[safe saffron]

I already am

[hushed blaze]

If you wanna get a lot of cuprium without rig, just use bombs 🔥

[pulsar cypress]

If u already understand the works of 1.1 and 1.2 facilities..
U can just jump to 1.2

[safe saffron]

this is me atm

[tribal crescent]

[ionic pollen]

that doesn't look like sc to me

[safe saffron]

oh sc , sorry right

[hushed blaze]

Sc wuling battery, 2 times more power than LC wuling

[safe saffron]

anyone have blueprints I can just copy paste?

[ionic pollen]

What you need to do in wuling:

1. line of sc batteries
2. 1 hetonite line
3. some cuprium parts and bottles with whatever cuprium is left over
4. at least one line of xir and hvy xir each

[pulsar cypress]

Current one is this more or less..
Not optimal.. Just tweak old design for newest items..

[rapid hedge]

if your jiangyu outpost is already at level 2, you should start making SC
LC was only more valuable when your jiangyu outpost was at level 1

[tribal crescent]

You can still sell LC in marker stone

[wispy grove]

The game called my pipes sloppy🥀

[tribal crescent]

They don't take yazhen C

[hushed blaze]

Not a good idea to sell it all though.

[tribal crescent]

Just make more later

[dawn flax]

keep at least a hundred LC

or transfer back to V4

[tribal crescent]

What is the announcement for test area btw

[ionic pollen]

mid-may

[tribal crescent]

Announcement

I don't even know what it entails gng

🥀

[quartz pagoda]

about to pull 20 for a 6star guaranteed, wish me luck 🙏
may all the work i did in the factory today pays as luck

[vapid granite]

When you guys work on your factory every version, do you try to just adjust it to fit the new update or just completely wipe the board clean and restart?

[dawn flax]

on 1.1 overhauled entire main-Wuling-AIC, 1.2 just set piss-based production wholely on new sub-site

[tribal crescent]

Uh

Well

It depends

[swift steppe]

I leave wiggle room, and have blueprints of production lines to make moving stuff around easier.

[tribal crescent]

For 1.0 i alr offshored my forges

[dawn flax]

the sub-Qingbo site still completely empty as before

[swift steppe]

I had cuprium seperate from stuff that uses it, so my base barely needed adjusting

[tribal crescent]

And have other stuff in my main

[pulsar cypress]

Me just adjust..
My brain not op enough to rework..

[tribal crescent]

So it wasn't a redraw entirely

[quartz pagoda]

i used to just copy blueprints and edit from there
this time i just added the new stuff... but then i realized it would be ebttet to distribute things differently so i deleted everything from everywhere and did it myself somewhere else

[tribal crescent]

Tho the cupirum changed a lot

For this version it's small enough to just adjust

[quartz pagoda]

half my Main PAC is empty, perfect for lots of protocol stashes

[tribal crescent]

Tho I did hit the AIC limit

[safe saffron]

no , jiang is level 1

[tribal crescent]

So i have to offshore some components too

[dawn flax]

nice, mine is 75% occupied

[tribal crescent]

Lol

512 protocol limit

[dawn flax]

same

[tribal crescent]

For the main AIC area

[quartz pagoda]

no good luck wishes, me sad, ciao

[storm garnet]

@marble yarrow in your lc spreadsheet you calculated as if using 1.5 sc banks, but using 1 sc 1 lc banks gives more bills for the same energy

[quartz pagoda]

2 SC = enough Innet Xircon Efflient for 1 extra line of Xircon Effluent = saves you 1 line of Xiranite to use for components and stuff

but yeah, im also using 1.5 SC for energy, the other gets wasted

i coooooould look for a way to save some SC batteries but...

[storm garnet]

i'm talking about the left one

you get 180 more bills from using 1 lc bank

not much, but it's something

also, no pwm

[vapid granite]

Ugh idk why but even though i know what i built, recalling it back to myself just can't work so I know where to split of building at

[storm garnet]

that's why you just build everything in one go so future you just trusts you and forgets about everything

[vapid granite]

Oh my god past me was so FUCKING SMART

I created a secondary blueprint to show what i exactly need in plants to followup procuce for xirinite

Now I just have no space

k guess im just restarting from the ground up

[storm garnet]

wait, we can move the pac with something else now?

[vapid granite]

ahh bro thats crazy

[marble yarrow]

true, it gives extra 180 bills

[safe saffron]

do I need to keep being able to produce xiranite components?

on 1.2

[tepid wigeon]

I think this Hetonite setup is kinda cool

[quasi locust]

@subtle finch it actually happened. one xiranite made its way to the forge not long after i logged off and the whole thing clogged yeah i am going to tap out here

[storm garnet]

if you have 5 digits, it's not a priority

[orchid pilot]

by the way, if anyone is looking to implement the extra sc battery line consuming exactly the amount of dense ori metatransferred, it's actually a pretty clean setup if you latch it onto your 0.75x hetonite production

[tepid wigeon]

Need to make some changes for acid usage though

[dawn flax]

the byproduct piss from purifier?

[orchid pilot]

oops sorry wrong screenshot

[safe saffron]

aight

[orchid pilot]

10/min xiranite feed with the inert recycled back produces exact amount needed to consume 25/min dense ori

and a 2split x 3split (1/6th) of the output from the hetonite production reactor (assuming all 6 cupriums fed) generates exactly the matched amount of sewage

[split chasm]

Is max Xiranite output per forge 30/min?

[marble yarrow]

PREMIUM OIL

[orchid pilot]

yes

[marble yarrow]

yes

[storm garnet]

extra virgin

[dawn flax]

quite headache that Zhuang's armor need pure Hetonite Component gear to craft, for it's +elemental dmg artifying

or is there one that use Cuprium , like Tangtang's?

[marble yarrow]

xiranflow armor?

[dawn flax]

Zhuang's bis armor (cloth) slot is the xiranflow

[marble yarrow]

yeah true, you just need to craft it once tho

[dawn flax]

i mean the artifying

[marble yarrow]

say no more

[dawn flax]

ye just found that one, i used that for tangtang

will continue to produce hetonite

for future chars

[marble yarrow]

still not done tho

[pulsar cypress]

Next we will have pisstonite..

[dawn flax]

oh u use a Lynx slab

[marble yarrow]

true

[indigo silo]

how do i switch these 2 ? the hedonite solution and acid rain are going to the wrong location

[marble yarrow]

you cant, purification has fixed output

and its shit

[indigo silo]

thats ridiculous

[marble yarrow]

yea it is lmaoooo you have to intersect em

[foggy valve]

If I create two xircon and hetonite in one expanded crucible, how do I unload them both?

It's the only hitch I have rn

[safe saffron]

ah crap I dont know how to go about updating my wulinf factoryu from 1.0 to 1.2

im so confused hahah

I cant skip 1.1 right cus I need components from that to make machines?

[spice tartan]

How do you create two xircon in one crucible?

It's fixed rate, 30/sec

[foggy valve]

I meant *both xircon and hetonite sry

[spice tartan]

oh ya

I guess don't

Endfield doesn't have the technology for that yet

[pulsar cypress]

Learn about sc battery
Learn about med A
Learn about sewage & acid

Then build from scratch..
(U will build 1.1 anyway to replace 1.0 items, the upgraded version)

[foggy valve]

The number of exit ports they're teasing with no means of diversity is crazy. By God I need both of them out

[safe saffron]

kinda want to just copy paste blueprints and be done with it just dunno how to go about it

[pulsar cypress]

U still need to learn the piping first.
Sewage and other liquids..
Or it will clog ur production and factory died..

[spice tartan]

sshhhh, don't make them take away the multiple outputs..

[safe saffron]

so I need to first watch a youtube video to make my 1.1 factory to get the materials for the new machines? or can I just skip and watch a 1.2 guide?

[foggy valve]

Perlica please, your a birb, don't curl a monkeys paw

[ionic pollen]

the thing i really want to keep is doing fluid-only stuff outside the factory area

[vale topaz]

Do you already got used with making stuff for valley 4 ?
starting with simple stuff like refining originium, amethyst part, ferrium part then moderate stuff like steel part, those buck / citrome, then the hard stuff like hc battery / buck a / citrome a ?

[pulsar cypress]

Watch both coz its different liquid use..
U just need to learn how each liquid works..
After that can use any available blueprints..

Since u gonna make 1.1 and 1.2 stuffs..

[safe saffron]

yeah I got the most efficient factory for 1.0 on wuling and V4

[vale topaz]

using bp or your own design ?

[safe saffron]

bp

[pulsar cypress]

Like how to circulate the liquid like sewage, effluent, acid, etc..

And the liquid ratio..

[safe saffron]

I can learn that on the go, I dont need to make my own lines to learn the machines first thats just a waste of time. as I copy paste the BPs ill just see what I need

[jovial breach]

slab propaganda

[pulsar cypress]

That's just the additional complexity added to 1.0 setup..
More or less..
Refining with liquid added..
If u understand that, then can use any bp..

[young igloo]

bp overrated

[safe saffron]

cool , then can I just scrap all of my factory and follow 1.2 bp youtube guides?

[young igloo]

10h in manual editing >

[young igloo]

yeah, pretty much

in case something is f ed up you can always come back here and ask

[vale topaz]

well, that's the problem : /
you need to learn how to make stuff on your own 1st.
BP is there to help with compacting size / provide example rather replacing your whole creativity.
No, this is not about saying 'you're an idiot, make one yourself' , the point is, you need to get the basic understanding good 1st and try to make stuff on your own.
Over reliance on bp might turn you to hate this game due to its factory content.

[ionic pollen]

It's like solving a math problem yourself vs having gpt solve it for you tbh

[crimson inlet]

I think reusing acid from the purification is not worth it for producing inconsisteng amounts of hetonite

I'm pulling my hair here because of it 😭

[sick basin]

The acid is consistent if u run it at 100%

[young igloo]

still dont know how i passed the class but glad i dont have to deal with it anymore

[sick basin]

I.e. feeding 4 crucibles into 1 purification

[young igloo]

its 4/1

[crimson inlet]

damn, 1 puri for 4 crucibles...

[sick basin]

Well, ye

[young igloo]

4 crucible for 1 puri actually

[ionic pollen]

i'm doing 4 cup for 1 het and 2 cup for a reduced yaz syringe

[young igloo]

and then 1 puri can reuse the piss to the 1 of 4 crucible

[crimson inlet]

its the same thing dawg

[young igloo]

still need 2 pump mf

[crimson inlet]

who tf said its 4/2, imma find him and

[young igloo]

1/2 with complicated step

[tired parcel]

Is this max?

[storm garnet]

at least you are not the guy from yesterday using 1 belt to feed 4 crucibles

[crimson inlet]

WHAAAT

[vale topaz]

personally, disliked feedback method, so i just dump it back to acid pool.
same with purification for xircon line, just dump the water back to river.

[tired parcel]

Tf

[sick basin]

Me, when the game itself(the puri unit) says u need 4 per 2s
1 cricible is 1 every 2 seconds

[storm garnet]

i went nuts with him

i almost collapsed from lack of sleep trying to explain things to him

[tired parcel]

Maybe its better to let em go

[ionic pollen]

I'm sure this will max out eventually

[storm garnet]

if he didn't get it, i'm not trying again

[tired parcel]

XD

[young igloo]

dont argue with those people

[crimson inlet]

I wanna make the funi Mortar line

[tired parcel]

I over engineered mine

[young igloo]

cant help those who dont want to be helped

[storm garnet]

"reactor got filled with powder, so that must mean i'm making more than enough, right?"

not other possible explanation

[tired parcel]

Lmao

[young igloo]

right my ass

[storm garnet]

but hey, he was looping back the belt from the 4th reactor back to the first!

it's actually 2 belts!

[crimson inlet]

I still like mine

[storm garnet]

how did i survive that

[crimson inlet]

I'm still wondering how to efficiently dump sewage

[tired parcel]

1001 will

500 strength

[crimson inlet]

p.s., I've removed the medicine line

[storm garnet]

i better stop remembering, i'm getting angry again

[tired parcel]

Id laugh it out

Probably 7 intelligent build

[storm garnet]

"just loop the belt and check what happens"

i think i don't need to...

[tired parcel]

I think hes baiting

[storm garnet]

i wish

[young igloo]

maybe

idk some people is just dumb

[storm garnet]

the worst part is he wasn't ingame, but out of home or something

[tired parcel]

Could be

He must be high

[storm garnet]

so everything was just about explaining theory

i got some things through, but he still insisted i checked

sleep deprivation saved me i guess

i had an excuse to leave

though i would have left sooner

ok, enough of it

[young igloo]

forget it man

[tired parcel]

Instead of remembering that tell me what im missing

[young igloo]

idk why yo production dipping

[storm garnet]

you are fine

[storm garnet]

it's just decimals, the report can't show them

[tired parcel]

Which?

Oh all

Hmm

[young igloo]

at least why is the heavy xiranite dipping

[tired parcel]

Yeah decimal

[young igloo]

it should be stable at 6/m

nvm im tripping

[storm garnet]

that's usage, yield is fine

usage is from components

[tired parcel]

Uh the usage does

XD

[vale topaz]

as long as it is working fine

[storm garnet]

but you don't get enough hetonite parts to use 6 heavy xiranite

[young igloo]

ye i dont make component i forgot that

[tired parcel]

Gonna get to 20k first then go full throlttle with parts

[storm garnet]

i'm at 6k atm, not bad

[tired parcel]

Hmm maybe i shouldve just stop xD

[storm garnet]

tbh hetonite components are the ones we should use less, by artificing other gears into hetonite gears

[young igloo]

i will just make enough to craft initial gear then artif with xira/copr gear

[storm garnet]

we didn't get new non-sets

[young igloo]

new nonset hetonite will trigger somebody if it actually work better

redeemer is already enough

[gaunt knoll]

Oh making Hetonite and Hetonite parts is just

Going to be oppressively slow rn huh

[dawn flax]

ye

[storm garnet]

do we know what's the difference between normal and good artificing?

[gaunt knoll]

bruh

[young igloo]

higher base stat make good match

[tired parcel]

I just keep forgetting that its just 2-3 characters using certain components

[storm garnet]

as in, % chance

[young igloo]

idk, just did a full 21 good match

while standard match take 5 to full +3

it be like that sometime

[vale topaz]

it's rng..... even if the odds is 99:1 , sometimes you still getting that 1 like 3x in a row....

[young igloo]

im sure there should be excel stuff somewhere

[crude nebula]

I just spam it, i dont care the rate sometimes

Its gamba

[ivory idol]

This is okay right?

I’m following Apel’s BPs

[crude nebula]

Who is apel?

[ivory idol]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YeP9gmWI7xo&pp=ygULQXBlbCB3dWxpbmc%3D

[storm garnet]

tbh good match is just to save artificing items from shop, but then it costs more bills

[vale topaz]

content creator at youtube, providing team guide and AIC bp

[unreal geode]

whats yalls thoughts, i tried my hardest to keep the protocal stash within the line but i just couldnt find a way to, only bcz i want to stash the heavy xiranite (parts are slow as fuck and u dont use that much H xiranite)

[storm garnet]

i don't even buy everything from shop

[crude nebula]

Ah i see

[storm garnet]

so i should just make the cheapest ones

[crude nebula]

Did he didnt show the final chart in the video to compare?

[young igloo]

i do try to make good match gear if its possible

it calm my mental, somehow

[vale topaz]

if you can, modify the cuprium to lean more toward hetonite part rather yazhen A.
you need more hetonite part, plus, it sell better then yazhen A.

[crude nebula]

So rather than 4 refined cuprium for 100% meds production, send 2 to hetonite right?

[vale topaz]

yes, 4 refined cuprium for hetonite, 2 refined cuprium for yazhen A

[gaunt knoll]

How many spare cuprum lines are there supposed to be after accounting for the ones used for batteries/syringes

[crude nebula]

The adjustment i might need when im online later

None

180/m cuprium in v1.2 iirc

6 lines thats all

[gaunt knoll]

Ok so I am using the max amount....damb

[vale topaz]

the cuprium itself might vary, since some might choose backfeed sewage in their xircon line.
but the refined cuprium it self, 2 output for yazhen A, 4 output to be shred and fed into hetonite production.

[crude nebula]

With some splitter you can adjust it more

[young igloo]

3/m syringe and whatever 120/m coprium can make hetonite for me

[magic steppe]

Is there a way to sacrifice just one forge of the sky from the 12 sc battery sc wuling battery production to be used in heavy xiranite production to make the ratio of xiranite to xircon 2:1?

[late zodiac]

expanded crucible does two formulas at once right? can they be the same formula?

[young igloo]

none i think?

[crude nebula]

It possible with some adjustment

Remember the power usage also double with the expanded even when crafting only 1 time

So use when possible to craft multiple only

[gaunt knoll]

So you cut your Yazhen line in half to get Hetonite at half speed

[ivory idol]

I’ll just wait till Kyonmakes a vid loo

[gaunt knoll]

Guess I can try that

[ivory idol]

But thanks tho!

[vale topaz]

its 6 forge for xiranite output + 1 forge for heavy xiranite, 1 forge free to produce more xiranite.
the 4 forge output for 2 xircon line which produce 2 xircon waste to be purified by 2 purification device and the result combined into 1 forge for heavy xiranite, add another 2 forge ouput toward that 1 forge for heavy xiranite.
so you have 1 forge left over, either use it or not, up to you

[crude nebula]

I mean you can also craft med C as additionla cash

[young igloo]

isnt 6/m heavy xiranite need 4 forge?

[crude nebula]

Wait i never check this, was the Spray drone skill able to use other than ferium bottle?

[young igloo]

so the old 12 batt production stay and you can just use 4 new forge to make 6/m heavy xira?

[young igloo]

i think so?

[crude nebula]

I might use amethyst bottle for heavy spray then

[gaunt knoll]

3. 2 forges for normal Xiranite and 1 for the heavy. You get the effluent from using the purification facility with all the inert waste from both Xircon lines

[vale topaz]

yes.
the original 4 forge output stays for xircon.
you build 2 more forges for another xiranite which will be fed into heavy xiranite.
the ratio is 5 xircon fluid : 10 xiranite in 10 seconds.

[sick basin]

Technicaly yes
But our 1 currently can be fed from inert

But the extra 4 forges we will get in a month will be used fully for heavy

[vale topaz]

unless you cancel the whole battery production and straight into xiranite into heavy xiranite.
which is 6 forge for xiranite + 2 forge for heavy xiranite formation.

[young igloo]

iirc theres new build coming allow us to convert something xiranite related i forgor

[scarlet cipher]

Has phys team's best gear changed since 1.0?

[young igloo]

mf #team-build

[vale topaz]

next patch after this banner, we'll get a new map.
the preview is about converting sewage into xircon fluid.

[young igloo]

thanks

[scarlet cipher]

Oh derp, I thought I WAS in team build, mb.

[young igloo]

so we can just scrap the current build next patch, great

[crude nebula]

All out demolition

[vale topaz]

maybe ???? i dunno, seem require long line of multiple conduits

[hoary crag]

imagine