aic-factory

[silent violet]

ofc you could just do it manually which would probably be the easiest

just wait until your xiranite is close to cap and then switch to 6+2

[subtle finch]

i think their approach is detect fullness, then auto switch

[silent violet]

when you run out of xiranite go back to 7+1

[viscid plover]

you say that like we aren't bottleneck by outpost 😭

[silent violet]

crazier things have been proposed

there is a group of ppl who are dedicated to minimising batt usage

[viscid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/لييوو-gif-16809754927858649993

[tribal pine]

factory done! 🥹

[fluid fog]

Things like that, are the endgame of Factorio.

[silent violet]

this is probably the most sane way to make it happen

[quasi locust]

actually my design i am working on isn't alternating production of xira/heavy immediately, but rather a switch. i imagine you can make 5 unit of xiranite go in using pipe sections of 5 unit volume tho

[viscid plover]

by the end of every patch i had to store excess battery in V4 in stash, outside our pac. i know endgame

in fact i still have tons of SCW battery all across V4 and wuling in stash near TP zone

[foggy grove]

so 6/min for heavy xira 4/min for heto part?

[silent violet]

so you manually switch the mode?

[quasi locust]

yes

i am trying to figure out if i can automate the switch, just one way first

[jolly shore]

this game is a prison, can't do anything fun with sewage, can't sprinkle piss on my crops...........

[silent violet]

u need a latch mechanism that switches between 2 states

when it detects full of xiranite, it switches to the heavy xiranite mode but doesnt switch back when the stash becomes unclogged

[void owl]

wait

[silent violet]

it has to have a separate mechanism to detect 0 xiranite in the system and fire the trigger to switch to normal mode

[tribal pine]

be easier to just make 2 setups, one for xira, one for heavy xira, then just move the forge back and forth

[silent violet]

both should be possible

[quasi locust]

true. i have a clogging sensor to stop water but it doesn't latch atm

[viscid plover]

RDR2 did it 10 years a go and in the big 2026 we still can't do whatever we want in game smh
gamings are going backward

[silent violet]

probably would look something like priority splitter into stash -> if any item goes into the overflow line thats your trigger

[ancient charm]

How do you do that?

[ornate sorrel]

did i overshoot my acid pipes lol

[serene mist]

Do you have any recommendations for megabases for wuling that wont have any issues?

[ancient charm]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494822135061942424

[silent violet]

the second mechanism would be based on probably a depot unloader into a stash with priority converger prioritising xiranite line, stash has item control node with a trash item out

if the priority converger lets a trash item into the line, the depot will receive it and send it on the trigger line

[cedar forge]

you need a guide?

[serene mist]

Nah

[reef horizon]

Is 12 batteries, 6 heavy xira and 5.5 heto max prod?

[cedar forge]

What question is that then

[ancient charm]

Het parts?

[reef horizon]

yes

or 4.5 sorry

[wet harbor]

whys my cuprium yield like that when all my rigs are active?

[ancient charm]

You can get a bit more out of LC wuling batt with dense ori powder metatransfer

[foggy grove]

is this ok? 4 reactors+ convergers into puri

[ancient charm]

No

Isnt that 8 into one puri

[reef horizon]

just 1 extra prod?

[fluid fog]

you only using like 120/m of cuprium thats like 4 lines

[foggy grove]

1 node = 4 . so ya 2 nodes = 8

[fluid fog]

makes sense?

[foggy grove]

these pipes confuse me so much

[tribal pine]

sadly, only enough material to run 6 into 1

[ancient charm]

Ye

[foggy grove]

i can sacrifice my yazhen and others, will that setup work?

[fluid fog]

just stick with the logic, sometimes when you lose track, it will confuse you alot more.

[magic steppe]

this sub pac is utter ass

[ancient charm]

I just do 8 so when eventually the cuprium mines produce full cap I dont have to change anything

[magic steppe]

i think im making a solid 0.5 a component a minute

[wet harbor]

how does that work? shouldnt my yield be what the theoretical is if i have all mining rigs on all the nodes?

[quasi locust]

true. i have a latch and a clogging sensor separately, but it's a trouble to work out a solution. i would have to rework my design to be more modular

[reef horizon]

Can i split any xircon gen and it be enough to fuel both of them?

[foggy grove]

my outposts are so broke so i wanna make heto comps for zfy real quick

[fluid fog]

I mean you only use 120/m and your depot is full so once its full it only use what needed in the production.

[ancient charm]

Uhh not sure, I need to see your blueprint to know

[vapid dock]

if theoretical and actual don't match and your depo isnt full
that means your miner isn't powered or its in storage mode for some reason (not free belt mode)

[tribal pine]

we can only use a max of 6 cuprium right now. hopefully we get a lot more in the future. 🙏

[wet harbor]

ohhh okay! ty guys

[ancient charm]

You only need 200 comps tho its not much when you full dump cuprium into comps

[magic steppe]

by the way does the fangyi sub pac need literally any depot busses other than the one ferrium ore and 2 cupriums?

[reef horizon]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494822135061942424 just this one currently

[magic steppe]

assuming its used for components obvs

[foggy grove]

i want to max arti for fangyi haha thanks for the tips

[ancient charm]

Oh that one, I optimised it a bit further so that the inert xircon gets purified in main AIC,, packaged into bottle, sent to Marker Stone then unpackaged to produce heavy xir there, then have leftover xiranite for 50 LC wuling per hour and then some

[hexed raft]

this .0833333?

[ancient charm]

Gd luck it will take very long time

[reef horizon]

whats your end prod looking like?

[vapid dock]

I can give you my bps for this production, 1.5 xiranite/cuprium components and around 4k bills of surplus

[reef horizon]

i dont need comps right now, i really just need stocks

i missed an entire day so im 1m+ behind on stock trading and dont want it to cap

[fluid fog]

hopefully, the New Test Area will give another 2 lines of cuprium or more to fully sustain the 30/m of heto

[vapid dock]

if your 2nd outpost is still lv1 jerry rig an LC battery production and manually transport originium to expedite it

[reef horizon]

my 2nd is level 2

[magic steppe]

so any idea if this is meant to happen or not with the hetonite

[ancient charm]

12 SC, 6 heavy xir, 4.5 het part, 30 xir (250 per hr goes to LC Wuling but I have it configured to full efficiency every hour when transfer is done so it is a sprint rather than constant)

[vapid dock]

then yeah max output is 4.5 hetonite parts, 12 sc battery, 6 heavy xiranite. You don't need anything more because its already above what outposts can produce

[reef horizon]

thats all i needed to hear, grand. aslong as ill eventually start earning more

[random estuary]

Is there a BP for SC battery utilizing the advanced reactor that saves space?

[ancient charm]

Ijust want to claim as much bills as possible so I can return to regularly scheduled comp production

[reef horizon]

Im super duper behind on bills nfortunatelyt so i really just want to make as much as possible too

[ancient charm]

Ye you can only squeeze out 50 lc wuling per hour more

[foggy grove]

sry to ask again , manifold conduits hwo many water pipe?

[reef horizon]

i added a 5th packaging unit, with dense orig in metatransfer

[ancient charm]

Imo we shldve gotten test area too

[jolly shore]

perlica won't leave the piss pool

[reef horizon]

1 of the xircon profuctions is split between the 2

[tired parcel]

Kekw

[reef horizon]

though it should even itself out since it produces way more than dense orig going in

[vapid dock]

im using this but there's probably more compact bps

[tired parcel]

@jolly shore fangyi as well

[fluid fog]

you could make double the production if you have excess raw materials

[magic steppe]

is this salvageable or do i just use the kyostinv blueprint at this point

[reef horizon]

i always do...

[uneven aspen]

should be 6/min heavy xiranite

[fluid fog]

Probably use kyostinv at this point if dont want to waste another hours of reworking XD

[reef horizon]

im always clogged on ts

[ancient charm]

My ferrium is the only clogged one

[reef horizon]

why am i yeilding 5 under 180 on cup

[uneven aspen]

no 12/m SC wuling batteries?

[ancient charm]

Probably sewage clog

[fluid fog]

oh my gawd what have I've done. AHAHAHAHA

[magic steppe]

alright before i restart do i need any unloaders except 2 cuprium and 1 ferrium
and is 2 sandleaf + 2 yazhen planters enough for max efficiency

[magic steppe]

this is salvageable

[fluid fog]

no, its just the sewage have double insert

[magic steppe]

ok why do crucibles have an option to change which pipe outputs what but not purification units?? that screwed up my factory line so bad

[reef horizon]

yeah lol

[magic steppe]

oh my god my fluid supply units are clogged with hetonite and xiranite

how did i botch this so bad

[fluid fog]

I just keep petitioning to have Inverted input/output for Refine, Plants, Filling, Unloading, now the Purification.

[ancient charm]

Theyshould dothe same with the other units too, imagine the optimisation

[jolly shore]

Wise man say, it is better to piss in the sink than to sink in the piss

[magic steppe]

this image is a perfect example of how to destroy your factory

[reef horizon]

so 13.5 @ancient charm

with dense orig reg transfer

[fervent lodge]

you know how the outpost upgrade quests are called "OD Project"
I always read it as "overdose project"

what does it actually stand for

[fluid fog]

yeah, it is 13.5. already tested from yesterday

[reef horizon]

Awesome, thanks

[ancient charm]

Hm interesting

How doyou get the extra xircon tho

Continue converting?

[tardy bridge]

Uhh guys

I have question for the people who have fully upgraded their factory

[reef horizon]

you produce enough

in a single xircon pretty sure

im only fueling the new machine with 0.5 orig/s

[tardy bridge]

What things do you guys focus on while

1. Layout of the factory
2. What to produce

[reef horizon]

sao its not working max eff

[ancient charm]

I think produce first since optimisation can be done later on

[magic steppe]

are both hetonite liquids even meant to go into the same crucible or is it more effecient to put them into seperate ones?

[reef horizon]

im like this

[turbid venture]

anyone got a jincao tea setup they could share? (see none in blueprints)

[ancient charm]

Huh

[reef horizon]

dont think you can afford any more dense orig

[ancient charm]

Yea no

[tardy bridge]

O

[ancient charm]

U can optimise the inert xircon effluent

[reef horizon]

so ive got

1.5 lines into 1 machine, 0.5 lines into the new one

of xircon

[ancient charm]

Sending it into the treatment plant is a waste

[reef horizon]

and it seems to even it out fine

[foggy grove]

my pipes ok or bad?

[reef horizon]

do you have a bp? for that

im tired xD

[tardy bridge]

Are those green purple and blue lines Bridges ?

[reef horizon]

Huh

[upper fiber]

maybe still in valley iv

[reef horizon]

i dont know what lines you mean

[ancient charm]

Swap the treatment plant for inlets them outlet somewhere else in core aic, then use two purification unit. Bottle the xircon effluent then send water back into river. Go to Marker Stone AIC, remove the xiranite lines there that produce xircon effluent and replace with separating unit for ur xircon effluent bottles

[reef horizon]

whats the gain off this?, lc?

[ancient charm]

you get more leftover xiranite

[jolly shore]

Alright lads, I emptied the cave of xiranite. Do I start filling it with heavy xiranite or do I fill it with piss?

[bleak wedge]

I want to produce Xircon using only one expanded crucible, and honestly, dealing with sewage is a real pain.

[languid latch]

I don't have any issue doing the same thing

Just plug the sewage output of one cuprium refinery to 2 extended crucible

[upper fiber]

did they change the name from extended to expanded

[languid latch]

I was told it could get clogged offline, but didn't experienced it so far

[torn yew]

you need 1 sewage for the external Xircon Fluent

[ancient charm]

you swap the water treatment to conduits then purify the inert xircon effluent into xircon effluent, bottle it

[torn yew]

the Xircon Fluent produced within the Expanded Crucible is supplied with its own Sewage when producing Xircon

[bleak wedge]

Idk, sometime sewage flow straight into the water treatment instead of react

[reef horizon]

its 2 inlets per 1 purify yeah?

[ancient charm]

yes

[tired parcel]

Can anyone show me their max yield statistic?

[ancient charm]

then in marker stone you can have one extra line of xiranite left over (using it for LC wuling)

[languid latch]

Shouldn't be connected to water treatment

[mellow thicket]

hello ya'll got any factory blueprint for wuling for non max level wuling/v4 regions?

[torn yew]

it's either 2, which is you maximize Hetonite production or keep the Yazhen [A] production

[reef horizon]

whats the most efficient thing to do with the excess xira

is it just lc

or is there some minmax tech

[ancient charm]

I haven't figured it out yet but LC seems to be it, I need to do some calculations to compare with SC tho

[torn yew]

iirc, the maxed out Hetonite would be 22.5 if you used all your Cupriums for Hetonite

doing this will hinder you from making Yazhen [A]

[reef horizon]

how are you at 6/m het..

[tired parcel]

Ur xiranite is ok?

[reef horizon]

overfill?

[upper fiber]

it is on heavy job mode

[ancient charm]

yes I have extra cuprium

its gonna run out tho

[hexed raft]

is there any way to create an oveflow pipe thing?

[ancient charm]

but when next update comes and we get more regional levels, cuprium mines will get maxed and I don't have to change the cuprium refining infrastructure

[languid latch]

I'm doing LC with dense originium powder from regional transfer + bottled xiranite since I have extra ferrium. Also doing xiranite component but that's because I manually transfer Packed origocrust from Valley VI

[upper fiber]

we don't know yet if max cuprium will be increased

[ancient charm]

this is my modified marker stone

[tired parcel]

Ooo i see, have to kill Yazhen A completely for max hetonite?

[viscid plover]

man just looking at setup is a hassle now

[ancient charm]

yazhen A is not as profitable compared to hetonite parts

[tired parcel]

Alrighty

[reef horizon]

Where are you getting bottles from...

[ancient charm]

leftover bottles

[reef horizon]

from what

OH

[ancient charm]

from yazhen C production

in 1.1

[reef horizon]

i dont have any spare so i cant do this nvm

[digital cloud]

What's the difference between the 2 crucibles?

[ancient charm]

you can also conduit it if you want to lol

[torn yew]

just more slots

[ancient charm]

or run a pipe from core all the way to marker stone

[reef horizon]

💀

[ancient charm]

wait actually

when you tear down your 1.1 build

you should have extra cuprium bottles no?

[torn yew]

but with those more slots, you can produce more inside

[reef horizon]

i didnt

[ancient charm]

but you wouldve torn down yazhen A to make hetonite?

[torn yew]

I produced Xiranite Liquid, Xircon, and Xircon Fluent + Xircon Inert in one Expanded Crucible

[reef horizon]

i dunno

[ancient charm]

check you inventory

[reef horizon]

i tore it down days ago, i aint got nthing

[ancient charm]

I have so much leftover bottles from the production lines its mad

[reef horizon]

well i have no clue then

is 50 enough

[ancient charm]

yea

[reef horizon]

and it reuses itself anyway yeah

[ancient charm]

as long as you can keep it continuos

[torn yew]

so you sell lvl 2 Battery for Qingbo Stockade and Heavy Xiranite/Hetonite Parts for Marker Stone?

[ancient charm]

you can produce some in V4 then bring it over

[digital cloud]

That's 3 liquid no? It can only output 2 liquids?

[ancient charm]

you pump in sewage and water, belt in xiranite, the xiranite and water produces liquid xiranite, liquid xiranite and sewage produces the 2 types of xircon effluent, final product is only xircon effluent and inert xircon effluent

[torn yew]

yes, but the Xiranite Liquid and Sewage is instantly used in the Expanded Crucible to make Xircon Fluent + Xircon Inert

and then you pump out Xircon Inert

[digital cloud]

Oh, didn't know that it can use materials internally. That's cool

[fluid fog]

No need for addtional sewage if the recipe of Xircon Rock is included in Expanded Reactor, its self sufficient once its working with additonal Xircon Eff

[torn yew]

my current factory uses 1 Expanded Curcible and 1 Crucible to make Xircon

[swift token]

is yazhen syringe [A] still worth producing?

[reef horizon]

yours looks so big

[ancient charm]

yea bcos mine has 8 cuprium lines

[reef horizon]

so what do i change here

[wispy grove]

[fluid fog]

A fine addition to the logic of pipes, Delayed liquid transport

[digital cloud]

Yea that saves a lot of space which is pretty neat. Didn't know about that, I'll rebuild the whole thing next time

[sand sparrow]

I made factory, I was happy, and next minute I was crying because of this. Why can't we swap those outputs?

[ancient charm]

remove the expanded crucible, and replace with separating unit to extra the xircon effluent from the bottles, then pipe it to the FoS

[reef horizon]

is it enough itself to fuel?

[ancient charm]

yes

[reef horizon]

wow

handy

[ancient charm]

my setup has been running since yesterday when he first posted the video lol

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[magic steppe]

Dude why are we construcing spines out of pipes

[vapid granite]

Time to go and reset this shit

Again

[fluid fog]

IKR, it looks spines. But the logic here is to delay the liquid or limit the speed of the pipes.

[ancient charm]

if its not enough to fuel then its probably the separating unit not operating at peak efficiency you can just add another separating unit then converge the two pipes, it will fix itself then

[reef horizon]

So this legit just works

[ancient charm]

yes

trust

[reef horizon]

crazy

[ancient charm]

I know

[reef horizon]

and then what am i doing with the xira

i forgot

😭

[ancient charm]

the guy himself said he didnt think of that lol

[ornate sorrel]

im finally done fixing the factory 😭

hate is

[ancient charm]

cos he didnt realise the bottles get returned after separating

[ornate sorrel]

hate it so much

the liquid math numbers are misleading af

[ancient charm]

LC wuling for now, I havent figured if it is more efficient to make SC or LC on such limited dense ori

[fluid fog]

Since we have 2unit/s but if you make every set of (see picture) it will delay like 0.2 or something. I can't pinpoint the exact amount. but thats the logic behind of it.

[ornate sorrel]

2 unit/s liquid tube, somehow incapable of funneling four 1 unit per 2 seconds machine at the same time. What??

[reef horizon]

more orig tho

[ornate sorrel]

this game's number is unrealiable

[ancient charm]

you only get 25/min with metatransfer, its one stack of LC wuling per hour

[reef horizon]

where am i getting the orig from @ancient charm

[torn yew]

wait what you can Produce Xircon Fluent with Xircont Inert?!??!

[ancient charm]

metatransfer from V4

[reef horizon]

is that better than getting 1.5x sc / m

[sand sparrow]

What is best production parameters to get max Wuling bills per hour ?

[ancient charm]

you dont need ferrium metatransfer already

[spice tartan]

New purifier recipe, 4 inert for 1 effluent + water

[reef horizon]

because im using the transfer to get 1.5x sc per minute

[ancient charm]

how are you getting that extra 1.5?

[reef horizon]

ill calc it hold on

[reef horizon]

metatransfer and spare xircon

we overproduce xircon

[sand sparrow]

Yes . That was the resone to rebuild my old factory

[ancient charm]

you metatransfer xircon? holy fuh

[reef horizon]

nonono

metatransfer dense orig

[ancient charm]

yea

[reef horizon]

and take half a belt of xircon out of 2 machines

[ancient charm]

but how do you overproduce xircon

mine doesnt overproduce

[spice tartan]

I'm trying to recycle inert into effluent rn and it's a pain... All this work just because we don't have limiter or overflow pipes....

[reef horizon]

i dunno

[sand sparrow]

I finally done with it

[lusty violet]

SCW is around 800-900 more bills/h, so not much

[ancient charm]

genuinely I am very curious how you do it

[reef horizon]

Maybe its just cuz its already stockpiled

[ancient charm]

no we are talking about xircon overflow, not the process

[reef horizon]

i think ur right

[dusty snow]

Am i tweaking? Or is there simply no way to get 6/min hetonite gear?

[spice tartan]

There isn't, 4.5 max

[ancient charm]

no there isnt

[reef horizon]

i think i had such a huge overflow of xircon

[dusty snow]

The math for that purifier is weird man

[reef horizon]

My bad

[dusty snow]

4/2 seconds

[sand sparrow]

my factrory autobalancing, to not overproduce it.

[ancient charm]

I think maybe its the way we setup the factory, I didn't put any power down until all the buildings were in place

[dusty snow]

So wee need something that can pump 2 liquid for each intake

[fluid fog]

Yeah thats the idea of unloading bottles

[dusty snow]

Can a pipe even carry 2/second?

[spice tartan]

yes

[languid latch]

You have more than 4 crucible doing xircon? 4 leads to 2/sec which is exactly what is needed by the purification unit so not much work to do, just connection

[ancient charm]

I'm thinking this can probably be reduced to 2 expanded crucible and one crucible right?

[reef horizon]

this shoudl work then?

[ancient charm]

yes

[reef horizon]

big

[ancient charm]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[subtle finch]

im guessing those bottles are just stocks right? you're not actually bottling them just to unpack it in the sub-pac?

[spice tartan]

No I have 4 (techically one half is still running 5 normal crucibles) The issue is actually trying to save on xiranite and use the recycled effluent without clogging on sewage

[reef horizon]

using the liquid

[ancient charm]

he is lmao

[subtle finch]

[reef horizon]

only need liquid so iz a loop

[swift token]

whats the max we can get? cuz im kinda confused and thats from 2 cuprium outputs

[vital narwhal]

The solution to this issue is to completely fill up the 1unit/2sec consuming machines' fluid buffers and the pipes leading to them, then distribution from the 2u/sec pipe will be reliably even

[ancient charm]

it is easier to setup than to conduit or pipe all the way to sub pac

[languid latch]

if you connect one cuprium refinery to 2 crucible should balance perfectly that's what I have

[ancient charm]

although now that I think about it maybe I should bottle precipitation acid to core AIC instead

[spice tartan]

Well tbh I just finished making the hetonite gear and barely started on the purifier, back to main base with all the xircon, haven't though about it besides that

[dusty snow]

around 2 ish

[subtle finch]

you can just make the heavy xiranite in your main base, and tranfer heavy xiranite instead

[dusty snow]

It's low, like REALLY low

[ornate sorrel]

or the easier solution: just run two water pumps instead of one to handle 4 water inputs

[spice tartan]

I was trying to plug it to heavy xircon with 1/sec flow and trying to save up on that

[reef horizon]

its done now i cba changing if it works it works 😭

[storm junco]

My head trying to figure out those stupid expendable

[devout egret]

5/min

[reef horizon]

listem im just a team-build guy, i dont do this often

[fluid fog]

that works too...

[sand sparrow]

If it work, it work.

[vapid granite]

This still does nothing right

[subtle finch]

we were making jokes about transferring liquids with bottles before patch
and someone actually did it unironically

[fluid fog]

oh boi it does something now

[storm junco]

You can purify it to xircon

[sand sparrow]

I do it

[spice tartan]

new recipe, enjoy

[fluid fog]

use Purification to become Xircon Eff

[dusty snow]

Dude, your xiranite stockpile is nosediving

No way that's sustainable

[heady elm]

same😂

[ancient charm]

I will do it with the acid when I figure how to cram everything into core AIC

[dusty snow]

Heck your cuprium is already 6 feet under

[storm junco]

I still don't get how the feck the expendable work

[vital narwhal]

idk what you mean by this, the solution I'm talking about is using two pumps and is meant to eliminate need for third

[storm junco]

It use sewage produce sewage

[ancient charm]

you just get more belts I/O and item slots

[subtle finch]

i wouldn't be adverse about the idea if it doesnt cost 40 power to transfer liquid at a rate of 0.5/s

[sand sparrow]

I have 80k at Valley IV

[ancient charm]

I mean you literally have so much unused power anyway

[vapid granite]

Ao this is all it does huh

just refunds it back

[storm junco]

It need 4 of inert

[spice tartan]

yeah you recycle it back to effluent so you can save some xiranite...

[vapid granite]

You say that like you just confused yourself

[ancient charm]

what you do with that extra xiranite tho

[subtle finch]

that's why if you dont pwm, you're also losing big time

[spice tartan]

drown in it

[storm junco]

4 effing inert to produce one shieety xircon

[spice tartan]

Now that confused me, im not confused at all

[ancient charm]

nah I don't believe in pwm

[vapid granite]

Is the only different between these two just the size? If i oculd i can just use expanded if i want right

[ancient charm]

too much hassle for minimal returns

[sand sparrow]

can you explain what is problem with extra xiranite you are talking about?

[spice tartan]

expanded consumes 100 power compared to 50 of normal crucible, has more slots tho

[ancient charm]

literally extra xiranite

[sick basin]

Expanded can do multiple formulas at once
For example u can replace the 5 crucibles u use to make batteries and instead only use 2 expanded crucis

[spice tartan]

Hey, you can turn that into an extra 0.01 heavy xiranite/sec

[storm junco]

The thing is x.x

[subtle finch]

me for example, im saving 20k daily from pwm, that's pretty significant

[storm junco]

2 xircone 1 dust

[fluid fog]

I wonder where I can still use that 15/m extra

[ancient charm]

if I had a extra FoS yea but do I now?

[spice tartan]

no one's forcing you to Grow the Factory

[sick basin]

Im keeping the extra 30 xira/m to sell
🤷

[sand sparrow]

What is new optimal production for max Wuling bills ?

[subtle finch]

it's one of those concepts that's difficult to step into, but once you try it, you never go back

[storm junco]

Holy

[sick basin]

Kill yazhenA, make hetonite parts instead

[storm junco]

You can reuse sewage

[fluid fog]

anyway Statistic for tonight.

seems about right.

[ancient charm]

you can take a portion of it and make a stack of LC wuling per hour

[spice tartan]

From what I was told

12 SC / min
6 heavy xira / min
4.5 heto parts / min

you still have like 7.5 ferrium + 30 xira left that you can use for anything
is enough to buy out both outposts

[sick basin]

I will once i get max storage of it

[vapid granite]

Sounds like a sweat blueprint reset

[sick basin]

Just saying
Saves u some space and 100 power

[spice tartan]

50?

[sick basin]

100

[spice tartan]

5*50 -> 2x100

[sick basin]

Theres 2 battery lines

[spice tartan]

oh for both sides

scaling gets me again

[sick basin]

[vapid granite]

crucible uses 50 power and expanded is 100, five crucibles is 250 and two expanded i 200

I save 50 power

[reef horizon]

[sick basin]

For 1 battery line
U use 2

[reef horizon]

what did i do

[sand sparrow]

Thanks.

[reef horizon]

why is my sc dying

[spice tartan]

TECHNICALLY you save 50 per 5-to-2

[ancient charm]

did you forget to remove the extra 1.5 sc

[reef horizon]

no i removed it

[brittle vale]

Hello guys, I am getting to new factory buildings, am I thinking right that it's the best to craft heavy xiranite from single forge (6 per minute)?

[ancient charm]

show me your SC production line?

I cant tell based on output only

[spice tartan]

nothing ran out on depo, how's it dyin?

[subtle finch]

omg it's the fucking bottles i warned you

[reef horizon]

Its still "there" but i disconnected it

the bottles shouldnt have anything to do with uit

[ancient charm]

I think your dense ori powder production has some issues

[reef horizon]

its just as if i have treatment units

[subtle finch]

jk

[reef horizon]

...

[ancient charm]

same on the other side

[ancient charm]

yea that might be the issue

[reef horizon]

i legit just added a new one

[ancient charm]

meanwhile me

[marble yarrow]

fokk is this

[reef horizon]

why do i need another

[ancient charm]

how many you got running right now?

[reef horizon]

5 set now

[fluid fog]

huh, so we can mould out of liquids?

[reef horizon]

was 4

never beating the power allegations

[wet cloud]

is there a wuling base that min maxes every area or is it all compact designs

[ancient charm]

4 should be neutral, but its probably bcos your stockpile was too low

[reef horizon]

can i lower my battery consumption

is there a sub 5.2 bp

[subtle finch]

what for? bottles are already for liquid, unless it acts as filling unit at the same time

[ancient charm]

my guy

[reef horizon]

yeah but people make the splitters and it savesm e some batteries

[subtle finch]

man, another eyesore in the base

[ancient charm]

I don't trust them, the battery units are either on or off, so unless someone convinces me I can pwm the unit itself then yea

[fluid fog]

so its like making bottles at the same time it fills. something like that

[subtle finch]

this is where you would be if you're not bottling

[reef horizon]

i mean it does work

[fluid fog]

kekw, its only just 40 power.

[reef horizon]

it just stalls consuming batteries so you end up saving

[vital narwhal]

Yes, if you want to produce max SC batteries, you can only have one fully utilized forge on hxira, anything more will need manual shenanigans

[subtle finch]

people dragged conduits for miles to save 5 power

[ancient charm]

we are producing enough as is

[reef horizon]

im behind

[limpid pulsar]

How do you turn off water on a planting unit on ps5? I haven’t been able to figure out how to select it

[subtle finch]

i heard that's a problem in console

best you can do is copy paste a normal one via bp

[limpid pulsar]

Wait you just can’t do it lmao

Alr

[ancient charm]

you load a blueprint with it off

[limpid pulsar]

Thanks

I’ll do that

They gotta fix that

[reef horizon]

this should be up to 5.4

[limpid pulsar]

I haven’t used xiranite ever cuz of it

[fervent lodge]

huh.

i guess we can tell what 1.3 will bring lmoa

[ancient charm]

fokk is this

[fervent lodge]

moulding has a water input in data

malding unit

[ancient charm]

wtf

why

[subtle finch]

what, did you just import this from game data without knowing?

[fervent lodge]

well yeah

[brittle vale]

Thanks! It seems I can make only half way utilized hetonite production if I want to keep my syringes going?

[foggy grove]

1 manifold outlet has 2 pipe, each pipe can supply 4 refining unit?

[fervent lodge]

i don't notice every port definition on buildings lmao
it just renders it as-is

[subtle finch]

what other secrets are you keeping

[fervent lodge]

remember when refining had fluid inputs in 1.0

[fluid fog]

Bro silently working at HG

[fervent lodge]

they put data there, what can i do

[cyan forge]

my factory finally clogged kek

[vital narwhal]

Recommend removing syringe completely after you have enough for consumable use, and use the hxira as substitute on new outpost, instead directing all cuprium into hetonite production. In a few weeks, we'll get +4 forge cap up to 12, can save until then

[subtle finch]

what did you do

[cyan forge]

tweaked a few stuff

i noticed that if ur sewage from cupri clog, the whole acid cycle break

[brittle vale]

Can I ask why are we getting cap increase? Will it be just new version and thus expansion or something else?

[cyan forge]

like even 1 line clogging means all the heto production go to 0

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-break-dance-gif-24923144

[cyan forge]

i moved heavy xira to main aic

[rich wadi]

holy 18/m sc battery

[subtle finch]

well, that's been an issue since cuprium was introduced, never cap on it

[sick basin]

With extra 4 forges, we can get +6 heavy xira/min

Basicaly a boost to oir production and more money

[cyan forge]

there's also this weird thing where if u don't produce enuf heto, u clog the expanded crucible

the heto liquid

[brittle vale]

Thanks for the recommendation, I should reconsider my factory all over again then. 8 forges already take most of main AIC area, I hoped that I'll be able to use free space for production of something in the future

[vital narwhal]

Livestream said "later 12", which could be with the 2nd area release in a few weeks (may14th iirc) that also comes with that map's purification node, but maybe could end up being next patch. I don't think they explicitly said it was this patch, but it would make sense to come with 2nd area

[reef horizon]

finally

[cyan forge]

i gave up on it and instead just piped it back to the pond so my acid intake become stable @subtle finch

[subtle finch]

i made a bp just for this

[brittle vale]

Probably if I'd to remove syringes production I'll fit 2 more forges into free space of outpost

[marble yarrow]

JOIN THE DARK SIDE: MAIN AIC HETONITE

[sick basin]

They confirmed its this patch
And it is indeed in the new area

[sick basin]

Habe fun pulling inert or sewage all the way behind monitoring center

[cyan forge]

lol

[fluid fog]

KEKW

[subtle finch]

luckily they added tp point, they're really trying to make it as easy as possible

[sick basin]

Wait wtf
Where does the cup solution from middle top crucible go

[subtle finch]

as long as you refine your cuprium in main

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/taking-notes-7

SIR, A THIRD PLANE PIPE NETWORK HAS HIT MAIN AIC

[subtle finch]

it shares the same converger with the 1.5 heto, it's only 2 worth, so pipe can keep up

[final sierra]

so we will have 4 more cuprium spots (sadly unreachable now, cuz invisible wall)

[fluid fog]

oh wow....

[subtle finch]

are you rainbolt?

[sick basin]

Wtf

How did ur ass get there

Oh wait was this shown somewhere

[subtle finch]

.gethisass

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[final sierra]

with one bug i found in internet :)

[sick basin]

Abuser

[subtle finch]

it's not really a surprise isnt it

[vital narwhal]

Main AIC hetonite propaganda: you're going to be piping sewage to purification node later anyway

[grave veldt]

Build invis walls to stop out of bounds:
Build invis walls to grief parkourers:

[sick basin]

I mean
I am making cuprium powder in main aic

[dense egret]

BRO HOW DO I GET MY SEWAGE WORKING

Its either too fast of a production or too slow

[final sierra]

so true

[dense egret]

I wake up to find either my refining unit stopped or my crucible

Has someone's sewage attained equilibrium

[grave veldt]

Measure how much you need and supply 0.5 / 1 or dump it in water treatment

[spice tartan]

Very cool you should share your secrets with me I'll keep them safe :)

[dense egret]

My calculations dont match

[regal mauve]

Literally me, except the whole factory shut down, and I don't remember what I changed.

[fluid fog]

like this?

[dense egret]

Crucible got clogged then, so battery got affected

[lofty shadow]

The sewage output of a single cuprium refiner matches the feed speed of a physical conveyor belt.

[sick basin]

Sewage doesnt break unless ur cup gets clogged or sum

Check again and make it better

[dense egret]

[final sierra]

you want a zipline to that roof ?)

[dense egret]

I have 4 refineries for cuprium. 2 for bottling Yazhen Syringe A and 2 for making cuprium parts

And I have 3 crucibles

[subtle finch]

if you look closely, there's an extra cuprium bed on that island too

[dense egret]

Yesterday I almost attained equilibrium but it somehow got lost this morning

[fluid fog]

damm. More cuprium...

[balmy cradle]

1 pump can feed 1 manifold* (2 pipes right??????)

[sick basin]

So thats, 7 lines, isnt it?
210 cuprium/m
30/m over current yield
Mayne u ran out?

[true path]

May 14 🥀

[dense egret]

Lemme check

[fluid fog]

we still have 4 more weeks. Dammit

[subtle finch]

[vital narwhal]

Three crucibles sounds weird if you're making SC batteries

[true path]

Pretty sure the whole patch last like 54 days

[limber rapids]

i can finally sit back now

[sick basin]

Save to assume he meant 3 crucibles using cuprium lines

[vapid dock]

its 49 days

[sick basin]

Since that was the context of it

[fluid fog]

49 days

[dense egret]

Wait a sec

The issue may be cuz my cuprium production is low

Does Test Area have cuprium sites

[dense egret]

Where do you see this list

[fluid fog]

#aic-factory message

[dense egret]

Tf unreachable?

2 spots in Qingbo and 2 in Marker stone for now right?

[cunning obsidian]

meta storage for ore works out to 55/m right?

[vital narwhal]

ESC->AIC Report, or through PAC/Sub-PAC screen

[true path]

Hows the copium ferrium and orginium is it balanced or r u losing some

[dense egret]

Dang. Never even touched that button lol

[subtle finch]

we don't ask this question here, it's forbidden

[foggy grove]

guys 1 water pump into 3 refining unit?

[limber rapids]

nah, all self-balanced

[true path]

Man im so broke on xiranite copium and hetonite comps

[dense egret]

What is theoretical data

[cedar phoenix]

2 pumps -> 1 pipe -> 4 machineries

or

1 pump -> 1/2 pipe -> 2 machineries

[foggy grove]

1 pump into 2, what about conduit and manifold into refining

[limber rapids]

well, except i metastorage transfered dense originium powpder just for xiranite gears

[foggy grove]

oh 2 pump converge into 1 pipe > spslit into 4 ?

[cedar phoenix]

yup

[foggy grove]

man i hate thse pipes so much

[true path]

Whats the maximum yied for copium comps rn?

[foggy grove]

what about manifold and normal conduit

[spice tartan]

I actually want to know if it's some kind of glitch. If it's just pure parkour that's fine. I'm looking for ways to explore ever since the infinite jump attack bug got fixed

[subtle finch]

it's just pipe portals, they can still transfer 2 pumps worth of liquid

[cedar phoenix]

1 pipe per conduit, 2 per manifold

it's just an underground pipe basically (or 2 for manifolds)

[frosty stirrup]

whats the difference between normal reactor and expanded one other than slots

[foggy grove]

1 canduit pipe can supply how many refin and mani

[cedar phoenix]

same as pipes

[cunning obsidian]

the expanded one makes me mad

[vital narwhal]

Basically, it takes any machine currently producing a certain item and calculates the number for if all of those machines were working at 100% uptime. Most relevant for mining rigs, you always want to use enough to match theoretical. For other items, it's about how efficiently these machines are being used.

[final sierra]

not parkour (some kind of flying bug) but there is also one nice parkour spot in new area

[cedar phoenix]

conduits are just pipes
but they go underground, there is nothing else to it

[cunning obsidian]

too bad its largely useless thanks to counting turned off machines etc

[subtle finch]

they don't produce water by themself, you still need a pump if that's what you're thinking

[foggy grove]

can i do 2 pump> 1 pipe > conduit > 4 refine

[cedar phoenix]

2 pumps - > 1 pipe -> 1 conduit -> 1 pipe -> 4 refines

you still need pipes to connect from conduits to buildings

[foggy grove]

thanks

[subtle finch]

We need a “minutes since someone asked about pump and pipe rates” counter

[wispy grove]

FINALLYYYY

[spice tartan]

Well maaaaaaaaaaaaayyyybeee if the devs added flowthrough limiter and overflow pipes we wouldn't have to

[wispy grove]

I CAN FINALLY REST

[dense egret]

Oh so its like global data?

@wispy grove hey

[vivid shore]

how much does an unloader consume per minut of cuprium ore?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[dense egret]

Can you show me your AIC yield list

I need to check cuprium production rate per min

[wispy grove]

wdym? its up there

[dense egret]

The other list

[shell hinge]

Well, looks like this is my final power usage with much turned off. Total power income is 7050

[wispy grove]

oh oke just amoment

[dense egret]

The AIC one

[dense egret]

When you try move AIC

[sick basin]

30

[subtle finch]

now we're asking unloader rates

belt is the same btw

hope no one ask

[thick osprey]

Well guys didn't played lot in 1.1 so didn't upgraded factory and didn't got gears and I pulled fenyi and don't know what blueprint to use help me

[vital narwhal]

Kinda of yes, for the region. Say for example you have hydro mining rigs producing cuprium ore. Theoretical data will always say the amount they would be producing at if they were working at 100%. Reasons why they might not (in the 'actual' data) are for example not enough water powering them or maybe your depot is completely full because factory not consuming enough

[spice tartan]

I like to do the parkour myself but game is so filled with invis walls that you can't get anywhere without some sort of bug, that's why I'm on the lookout for these type of things before they get fixed

[wispy grove]

This?

[thick osprey]

?

[vivid shore]

i wasnt sure, for some reason im using 390 per min, and i should be using 330. i was thinking maybe it got changed

[wispy grove]

whats wrong?

[swift token]

i guess not too bad, will leave it like that for a while and later produce bottles with heavy xiranite

[vivid shore]

whats the max production for cuprium rn?

cuprium ore

[wispy grove]

180

[thick osprey]

Show gear production I mean I need to build quick team XD

[wispy grove]

the factory or the yield?

[subtle finch]

181 if you mine it fast enough

[vivid shore]

and im using 270....

[vivid shore]

wtf?

[wispy grove]

i mean if you have spare thats fine

[bronze lichen]

do ya'll still produce Yazhen Syringe to make Wuling Bills?

[vivid shore]

i had, i just took a look at why some things got halved

[bronze lichen]

ah i see

[foggy grove]

2 refine 1 water treatment ok?

[vivid shore]

kinda

[thick osprey]

Factory

[subtle finch]

what did you see? you didnt get an answer yet

[wispy grove]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494938081357201508

[swift token]

i still do, but i might change it later

[sick basin]

No need to

Making hetonite parts is better

Altho only slightly, it is

[bronze lichen]

Im using that Hetonite for the new Components

Need to wait a few days to reach max

Or close to max

[subtle finch]

it's actually exactly the same no matter which one you make

[sick basin]

U can stop at like 2k

Theres no real point going more for now

[foggy grove]

1 ACID PUMP 4 reactors ok right?

[bronze lichen]

Ah much appreciated

[wispy grove]

[strong quiver]

FRICKING HELL

I DID IT

MY FIRST MODULAR XIRCON AND HEMONITE LINE

[subtle finch]

hope you dont mind us copy pasting your spreadsheets around, they're really useful
you should add a signature

[sick basin]

Again
1 pump = 2 facilities
So 1 acid pump = 2 crucibles

[subtle finch]

unless... nvm

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

i dont understand anything, but congrats bro

[magic steppe]

is the rate of sewage from hetonite good enough to make xircon?

[marble yarrow]

yeah its alright to be shared since it might be useful, i dont mind

[sick basin]

I mean
Hetonite is just refining cuprium anyway

[subtle finch]

hetonite only produce 0.375 sewage/s, just trash that thing

better get from refiners instead, which are constant

[magic steppe]

im assuming i also dump the acid from hetonite liquid

[marble yarrow]

all roads lead to Main AIC

[vivid shore]

what is hetonite part used for?

[subtle finch]

you can send it back to the crucibles if you know how

but the easy way is dump it too

[exotic berry]

Is this the max efficiency for a hetonite component farm?
I have 2 cuprium solutions pumping into 1 purification unit, and that should theoretically make 1 hetonite solution every 4 seconds. And I have 2 of those hetonite solution farms.
I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't create 1 hetonite for every 2 seconds in the reactor crucible.
Or am I just overthinking things

[magic steppe]

i mean does it even make that much of a difference

[subtle finch]

saves a lot of space actually

[vital narwhal]

acid going to sky king flats?

[subtle finch]

like this

[marble yarrow]

worse

[vivid shore]

what is hetonite part used for?

[marble yarrow]

sell in outpost, or hetonite components

[subtle finch]

if you have lots of pipes like that, it's difficult for us to follow it, it would be easier if you just check your aic report
if none of your refiners are idling, and you get 180/min of cuprium usage, then it's good

[sick basin]

That is because if u look into the reactor, 1 hetonite needs 2 hetonite solutions every 2 seconds
Yoire only giving it 1

[sick basin]

New turrets

They are so fucking peak

[vital narwhal]

wao, I'm thinking surely it's easier to go through lingshui way, but I guess kinda might as well pass through skyking

[quaint echo]

Which is better for this patch? 75% Hetonite or 50% Hetonite & 50% Yazhen Syringe A?

[sick basin]

Hetonite

[quaint echo]

All in to Hetonite?

[exotic berry]

Yea I'm giving it 2 hetonite solutions, I have 2 purification unit farms for that

[sick basin]

All in

[exotic berry]

Alright I'll have a look at the report

[alpine tendon]

max originium yield wuling?

[river wadi]

480

[tired parcel]

Overkill? Ive no idea

[exotic berry]

but is 1 hetonite part per 10 seconds achievable?

[quaint echo]

I'm still confused rn

[alpine tendon]

Do I need to raise my regional development level?

[subtle finch]

you will drain your depot, then it's back to 4.5/min

[proud crow]

How do I get rid of acid

[magic steppe]

so wait should i obliterate my syringe production for hetonite

[sick basin]

Those puri would need each need 4 cuprium solutions
Yoire only giving them 2 each
So they are making 1 every 4 seconds
Meaaning u get 2 every 4 seconds
But u need 2 every 2s to have 100% hetonite production (not possible rn btw)

[quaint echo]

I'm still curious why hg didn't upgrade the Cuprium & Ferrium purity in rdm 10-12

[wispy grove]

[river wadi]

fluid supply unit

[magic steppe]

they are getting the amethyst treatment

[quaint echo]

Pour back to the acid pool

[exotic berry]

ohh I see, so 2 every 4 seconds is as efficient as it can get?

[quaint echo]

Hahaha

[subtle finch]

i deleted all my meds, the only thing im worried about is accidentally selling all my meds and i have to go back to valley iv meds

[proud crow]

wait i scratched my head so bad and its not possible in the end ??

[river wadi]

eco farm

[sick basin]

No, max rn is 3 ever 2 seconds
Cuz u need 8 cuprium lines to get 100% hetonite
But that needs 240/m of cupriun
Rn we only habe 180
So u cant

[quaint echo]

Just pick meds from the new map anyway

Tons of thorny yazhen & fluffed jincao

[magic steppe]

i give up on the aic, kyostinv save me

[quaint echo]

And better heal than IV

[proud crow]

omg, back to the factory i go, thanks 😭
so basically i only need 3 cuprium thingy ??

[river wadi]

anyone who doesnt use yazhen spray L is lazy

[subtle finch]

I AM LAZY

[alpine tendon]

Or not far enough in the progression

[quaint echo]

I'm lazy rn because my operator is gifting me those items everyday

You need 200% trust to

[fervent pawn]

in an expanded crucible, can i make 2 of the same recipe? or is it only "2 reactions" in two DIFFERENT recipes?

[exotic berry]

shucks, wish we can get more lol

[alpine tendon]

I'm using 240/min here... How come it's only 208?

And my yield is only 209? So I can't start making xiranite components as well then?

[exotic berry]

is it possible to connect a conduit inlet manifold to a single conduit outlet?

[quaint echo]

Expandable reactor is kinda meh i think? Because this factory is kinda trick you into simpleness

[final sierra]

you wanted to include sub AIC in route?
cuz it can be shorter (red for underground tubes using teleportation and yellow for basic tubes) 🤔

[quaint echo]

And you realized your production is not 100%

[sick basin]

Idk what cuprium thingy is
But rn max is 6 crucibles eating cuprium powder
Making 4.5 hetonite parts/min

[fervent pawn]

i more mean if i can make the same reactiondouble up, like making 2 hetonite solution recipes at once, or can i only do two different recipes for it

[vivid shore]

what is this

[vital narwhal]

produce different recipes (as long as have necessary components), parallel production

[marble yarrow]

nope, everything was overground piped

[subtle finch]

bold of you to assume they want it shorter and with conduits

[fervent pawn]

so i can not do this? and get 2 hetonite/s out

https://i.imgur.com/NdQu7J1.png

[final sierra]

question about tube route

[alpine tendon]

help pls

[quaint echo]

For me, i just use expandable reactor for heavy xiranite, expandable reactor in left is for 50% efficiency hetonite production

[proud crow]

6 crucibles ? Okyyy

[final sierra]

impressive

[quaint echo]

For sc wuling battery is not worth it i think

[vivid shore]

which tube route?

[proud crow]

So i can do 2 more right ?

[sick basin]

Check if u have every node active
And get rdm lvl8, thats when u get max ori yield

[vital narwhal]

I don't think so, or at least I haven't seen anyone able to make that work

[alpine tendon]

best way to get to rdm 8 asap?

[quaint echo]

Emm no

[sick basin]

Upgrade the things
Depot node, monitoring center tower, stock

[sick basin]

Yeah

[tawny ravine]

how

[river wadi]

upgrade stock redistribution, environment monitoring, recycling station, depot node, outposts

[fervent pawn]

well i realized i can't because i can not choose to have two different slots with the same input ingredient, even if i have two inputs they both go in the same slot so you, annoyingly, can not make 2 cuprium solution in one expanded even though it says it can handle multiple

[quaint echo]

The production line still 1 fluid/2s

Kinda suck

[wispy grove]

Wdym how?

[subtle finch]

here are the sources weighted

[alpine tendon]

I'm broke 😭

[quaint echo]

Didn't spare some stockbills from sellable goods?

[river wadi]

Sell stuff to outposts

[quaint echo]

Oh you're early wuling

[alpine tendon]

Already done elastic goods haha

[quaint echo]

My bad

[serene mist]

Yo does any1 have a very small hetonite component factory? Even 1 or 2 per min is good for me

[vital narwhal]

Handles multiple recipes, it's most relevant for xircon production which involves a machine with 3 recipes and one with 2. Hetonite can also use a single expanded crucible but yea the results are a lot less impressive

[subtle finch]

#1494628329851064402 message
180 cuprium/min

[vivid shore]

i have 400 more than you

[alpine tendon]

Yuh, I'm making cuprium parts, SC batteries and Yazhen Syringes C

I also wanna make xiranite comps but I can't......

[subtle finch]

🌟 here's your special star

[quaint echo]

You can craft the xiranite comps when your sc batteries are already full

[quasi locust]

@marble yarrow @subtle finch i think i have the basic control done, but i afraid i have to throw the towel here. i have had enough with misbehaving priority belts

[proud crow]

Is there any other need for cuprium besides that ?

[subtle finch]

im actually quite an expert with converger prio if that's specifically what you need

[proud crow]

I need two purification units for hetonite ?

[sick basin]

Uh, well no
Unless u decide u want more cuprium comps

[alpine tendon]

got 2k in the depot... How long would they last?
1 thermal bank is 1/40s
would last 22hrs?

[proud crow]

Okii thanks !!
About that 2nd purification unit... yeah no i cba to do it 🥀🥀

[vivid shore]

how about using batteries from valley IV? i have an excess from there

[quasi locust]

yes fix my mess please

[quaint echo]

The key strategy is sell other item first like meds, heavy xiranite & hetonite parts, and then you can sell the batteries

Wait the outpost refill their stockbills until full

[alpine tendon]

I can't even make hetonite rn 😭
meds like the Yazhen syringes?

[exotic berry]

210/min is the max amount of xiranite u can get rn right?

[quaint echo]

Yeah

[exotic berry]

if ur making heavy xiranite

[quasi locust]

also we might need a calibration expert to get this to work

[sick basin]

Ye
U can also habe 30/m free

If u pull inert from batteries

[quaint echo]

Are your sc batteries already 12/min?

[exotic berry]

pull inert from bateries?

[proud crow]

Do I need syringe A or can I nuke that ?

[quaint echo]

Wait i forgot how much you can get /min

[sick basin]

Yeah
As u kmow heavy xira needs effluent
To get effluent u need to mix liquid xiraanite with sewage, so youd need to use another forge for that
But by pulling the 2 inert that each battery produces and put them into the purification unit, u get effluent without needing any xiranite usage

Tadah

[sick basin]

12, yes

[sick basin]

Can nuke it

[quaint echo]

Still waiting for cryston bottle usage tho, this bottle is literally ZERO usage

[foggy grove]

how many cuprium belt we can use rn, it was 4 before 1.2

[quaint echo]

6 belt

[proud crow]

can I nuke xircon or nah ?

[quaint echo]

Equal to 75% Hetonite production

[foggy grove]

sowe can only use 2 more belt to make new mats?

[subtle finch]

@quasi locust idk if i yapped to you about converger prio yet i'll try a tl;dr
first placed input takes first priority, last placed input takes last priority
but that can reset when going offline or placing by bp
the true priority is backside always last (if and only if) one of the neighbor is not a belt (eg splitters, units,loaders)

[sick basin]

Ofc not, how else ull make batteries

[rain schooner]

is 3 hetos comp/min the max for right now?

[proud crow]

idk i havent looked into it, i wanna be sure about what to nuke and what not to nuke

[sick basin]

No, 2.75

[subtle finch]

there's a stupid way to give prio to the back/middle side of the converger that i found, like this
ignore the boxed area, that can be just belt

[proud crow]

thank you !

[sick basin]

Do not nuke xircon
And when u do nuke yazhenA
Do not nuke its sewage going into batteries

[rain schooner]

oh the thing on my screen says 3....probably just a visual thing then

[quaint echo]

Depends, if you want more Hetonite parts, then save the yazhen syringe a blueprints
If you want both, decrease yazhen syringe a efficiency into 50%, then use cuprium to create 50% hetonite production

[vital narwhal]

flavor text does advertise future usage at least

[proud crow]

[sick basin]

Cuz game isnt able to say decimals

[rain schooner]

[quaint echo]

Hetonite part 100% literally uses 8 cuprium belts

[exotic berry]

omd that's smart
imma try doing that
also, 6/min is the max you can theoretically get for heavy xiranite for now?

[quaint echo]

[rain schooner]

its absolutely absurd btw that ofc the new unit uses the new gear and the rate at which we can make said gear is substantially slower than the last few patches. Like damn man lol

[quaint echo]

You can increase it into 18/min if you want

But it is not worth it

[rain schooner]

im assuming id have to destory everything lol

[sick basin]

We get 4 more forges and 2 more cuprium lines in the new area on 14th
So we'll be able to have 12/min heavy and 100% hetonite production

[exotic berry]

yea, xiranite is heavily used 😭

[rain schooner]

yeh im not doing that

[quaint echo]

They're cooking recipe for creating new batteries with heavy xiranite rn

[exotic berry]

and I just cleaned up my factory so ceebs

[quaint echo]

How much power battery from heavy xiranite

[rain schooner]

I swear to god....

if they do

[vital narwhal]

The anticipated HC Wuling Battery

[exotic berry]

was that mentioned in any leaks?
I can't find any leaks for endfield

[rain schooner]

im just gonna exclusivley use bps. The new crucible made me actually crash out yesterday lol

[undone current]

should be at least 2x than sc

[quaint echo]

No, only assumption

[sick basin]

I mean
Boohoo?
Its fun making new stuff, not like its complicated and u dont even need that many
I shut down my comp production like half a day ago and im sitting at 3k

[exotic berry]

fair

[subtle finch]

no, funny number go up -> me happy

[foggy grove]

how many coprium belts we can use ? 12? heto use 8belts

[vital narwhal]

It's honestly fine for component production to slow down because you don't need the new components as fodder, only the basic xiranite one

[rain schooner]

good for you. really. but fun? no...at least not imo. Not everyone feels that way and its apparent. Just because youre in a small circle of people that agree with you doesnt mean its fact

[sick basin]

6

[quaint echo]

Still kinda jealous they're using few hetonite part & heavy xiranite to create hetonite component, when xiranite comp & cuprium comp uses a lot material of them

[foggy grove]

i want to max heto comp

[sick basin]

Ye that needs 16 lines

Habe fun

[subtle finch]

just use bp my dude

[foggy grove]

can use 8 lines right?

[sick basin]

6/m hetonite comp needs 16 cuprium lines

[sick basin]

Can but youll run out quick

[tired parcel]

Check.. am i missing smth?

[foggy grove]

ill remove yazhen and abit of sc batt

[subtle finch]

assume first that they want/mean sustainable before recommending full efficiency that's not sustainable

[sick basin]

Sc bat doesnt even use cuprium

[quaint echo]

Don't remove the sc battery bro

[sick basin]

Sustainable factory

[undone current]

30 heto, goodluck run out cuprium

[foggy grove]

sewage 🙁

[tired parcel]

@undone current idk their max yield lmfaoooo

[quaint echo]

Just use 2 refine cuprium in your maim sc battery

[sick basin]

Still dont remove it..that doesnt use up cuprium
It just needs cuprium production

It wont increase your max possible yield of it

[subtle finch]

you're good but that rate wont last long

[tired parcel]

Its not good lmao

[rain schooner]

Btw....why dont they update or add a new bp when a product uses an upgraded facility. I.E xircon with ex crucible

[foggy grove]

i went ahead and connected 8 belts of cop danggggg

[undone current]

u cant make 30 heto yet

its max at 22.5

[tired parcel]

Got it...

[sick basin]

Cuz its up to you to figure out!

[subtle finch]

i mean it will auto adjust to the max allowable rate, but you will be consuming more power than usual
idk if you care about that

[quaint echo]

Overkill lmao

[rain schooner]

then just remove all bps if thats the case

lol

[subtle finch]

ive seen many people here refuse to give up 3/min comp, saying they dont wanna change it for the next patch

[wispy grove]

What are u tlaking about

[sick basin]

We wont be able to have 3 comps/m till we get the cuprium in the Test Area map
Thats fucking month awau

[wispy grove]

Is this about the tutorial?

[quasi locust]

good to know, thanks

[wispy grove]

Sike +60 again

[quasi locust]

can you tell what is happening here tho, and how can i fix this

[subtle finch]

we try to point people in the right direction to be able to sweep the outpost bills, but it's not stopping them

[quasi locust]

i wanted the activated carbon to have priority

[sick basin]

..which is enough for 3/m comps

[foggy grove]

HOW MANY cup belt we can use rn? im using 4 for sc and yazhen , how many belts i can use to make heto

[sick basin]

As youve been told hundred times already
6

Bro please

[wispy grove]

Sike people wants syringe

[quaint echo]

[wispy grove]

6 total

[quasi locust]

but the top priority belt is messed up

[undone current]

cant u still sweep bills with 1 heto comp?

[tired parcel]

Yeah i had this fo 30/min setting.. kekew

22.5 huh

[grave veldt]

I am just too lazy to chenge 6/m syringe to 1.5/m hero or something

[wispy grove]

Just dont make comps right?

[quaint echo]

Yeah, maybe...

Because new outpost didn't include tower defense system

[subtle finch]

at least use half of the parts to sell

[quaint echo]

Tower defense increase stock bill regeneration rate

[sick basin]

Just get few k of comps and switch to only parts really
Dont need a lot at all

[grave veldt]

But i want to test wisadel towers NotLikeThis

[wispy grove]

F stockbills, min max comps

[undone current]

hmm nice then

[sick basin]

Definetly get lvl2 outpost asap
Triples the income

[undone current]

item control port it then

[wispy grove]

You use control port? Dangg

[quaint echo]

Item control port mentioned ‼️

[rain schooner]

for the component? I might be one of those people. Tbf the new system was fairly complicated for people (myself included) but I eventually figured out what I was doing wrong. People dont seem to realize that this discord here is the minority and a far reach from the over arching thoughts of the community. I mean do you really think millions of people are logging in and working on the aic for hours AND its more than half the game?! I think I saw a stat in from other games that only like less than 5% (or even lower) do end game content (like moc, hard battles etc) and you think they do something like this that takes even more time? lol

sorry for the long post lol

[undone current]

yeah, on my heto comp n bottling liquid heavy xira

[trail mirage]

what to do with the extra xiraite 🤔

[sick basin]

Lc battery!

[undone current]

lc battery

[quaint echo]

Craft heavy xiranite

[wispy grove]

How many bottles do we need in the story?

[undone current]

not much but ill just make 2.5k each

[sick basin]

Story? 0
For the 3 spots in exploration like 20

[sonic summit]

guys anyone got the max output for cash ?

[trail mirage]

no orginium tho

[wispy grove]

Ohh okee

[sick basin]

Metatransfer

[undone current]

metastorage dense origi

[sick basin]

U mean, lvl2 outpost?

[quaint echo]

Still wondering which better 75% hetonite or 50% hetonite & 50% syringe A

[trail mirage]

why dense

[quaint echo]

Still debateable

[real crescent]

i would assume more people do factory than endgame modes given that factory is the cornerstone of getting healing items and gearing your characters

and given that the story tells you to do factory

[quaint echo]

Factory is getting limited time event in a few weeks left btw

[wispy grove]

Use dense orig for battery❌
Use dense orig for comps✅

[hidden temple]

it's deeper in the production chain and for some reason can still metatransfer at 25/min

[undone current]

i build all of them

[sick basin]

On 28th

[marble yarrow]

all same

[sick basin]

New event exclusive products u need to make (it lookes like it at least)

[quaint echo]

What the hell

[sick basin]

Also buff to bills regen in outposts

More money

[quaint echo]

Ah okay, I'm still stick to 50% hetonite & syringe

What happen if hg drops a brand new battery recipe with heavy xiranite in next map not in next patch?

[wispy grove]

If the bills are the same, then the best way now is which factory uses lowest energy

[subtle finch]

lurkers here definitely know normal people just want a quick component and don't care about factory

[deft orbit]

The devs really calculated it so it doesn't matter what to do, no?

[rain schooner]

thats all Im saying and people dont seem to realize its more people than they think.

[sonic summit]

what max xira output if i made 6 heavy xira ?

is it 210?

[sick basin]

Wut

[undone current]

ye

[sick basin]

Oh that

Ye

[solid python]

Finally got everything sorted out

[sonic summit]

how to do 3 per min output again?

[rain schooner]

cry and struggle

[deft orbit]

guys what are you using the 8th forge of the sky for?

[subtle finch]

that took a bit to follow, plus i don't really know your intent to understand if that's good or bad
definitely weird that you placed xiranite side last and that still takes higher prio, but that's the expected bp behavior anyway
im guessing that's something to do with the control port, i haven't really tested it's effect with prio, only that i hear people claim it can delay stuff