aic-factory

[hoary crag]

isn't max just like 180?

[frail trail]

why are we calculating in profit/ore ?

[subtle finch]

spreadsheetmaxxing

[marble yarrow]

smh

[upper fiber]

it is same result

[wispy grove]

BRO THIS ISNT

[small creek]

I calculate in sadness value

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. They compare full heto with half med, which one yield more bill.

[wispy grove]

SIGH

[alpine tendon]

What do ya'll think? My new masterpiece.

[small creek]

I think im going to puke

[frail trail]

the hetonite part give basically the same amount of $ as heal A + heal C

[small creek]

Oh there goes my lunch

[frail trail]

just that the ore ratio is fucked

[marble yarrow]

yeah true

[worldly holly]

eh 5k only need 2.25 sc

[marble yarrow]

on a 100% resource utilization, they end up same

[frail trail]

so might as well make heal A + heal C

since you don't need to use acid

[pulsar cypress]

Not fully covered with belt..
Bad..

[storm garnet]

what if 90 ferrium cause of meta ori

[hoary crag]

what's the water in xircon reactor for?

[unreal laurel]

how many sewage treatment i need?

4?

[upper fiber]

1 is full 3 process, the other one only 2 process before xircon

[alpine tendon]

Sorryyy Qyuuuu

[storm garnet]

if 6 refineries for cuprium you need 4, yes

[ruby sorrel]

is this clear enough now use the same amount of ores get the same amount of bills

[marble yarrow]

aight, cooking

[frail trail]

i don't think it changes anything, if you are making max heto part then you would still have left over ferrium for you to make heal c

[small creek]

Watch the numbers skyrocket like a payday

[subtle finch]

i don't want to make yazhen solution with my acid crucible
but it can save 50 power

[small creek]

You should make yazhen solution with acid crucible

(I wont)

[ruby sorrel]

you have 6 slots in acid crucible?

[subtle finch]

[small creek]

👍 👍 👍 CRUCIBLE YES 🗣️

[storm garnet]

it changes cause it makes less 0 food c i think

[subtle finch]

acid + water in
yazhen + cuprium out

[storm garnet]

but i'll leave excel to do the thinking

[pulsar cypress]

Bills same..
Now change the calc to which bp setup use the less energy..

[storm garnet]

i c

[ruby sorrel]

I mean if you show it's equal the first time it's not going to change the second time

the limiting factor is not having enough cuprium to exceed ferrium total

[storm garnet]

i forgot you still have a bit of extra ferrium for food c anyways cause hetonite is not 30/min

[small creek]

Its syringe pretty sure

[marble yarrow]

reactor shi

[subtle finch]

realistically, i dont see anyone doing full ferrium utilization yet with max heto
it's such a bother

[ruby sorrel]

you need to use 1 reactor per belt of ore, hetonite costs more power just based on that alone

[marble yarrow]

6 syringe+3tea, 1 reactor

[small creek]

True

I did that back in 1.1 for a while

[storm garnet]

0 heto uses 2 reactors for food

[hollow stone]

is this any diffrent from normal crucible?

[storm garnet]

then 2 filling and 2 packagers

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's fat

[small creek]

Nah just 1

You can make jincao and yazhen in 1

[upper fiber]

max heto = 60/min?

[marble yarrow]

better safety lmaoooo

[storm garnet]

ah, right, you can make tea too

so 1 reactor

[subtle finch]

180 cuprium

[hollow stone]

oh then propably doesnt mather

[small creek]

thats a lot less than 5 reactors and 1 expanded

[hollow stone]

since only way my machines will break when i cap on cuprium ore thingy

[upper fiber]

like this?

[subtle finch]

360 bills/hr can't possibly justify the crucible cost

[storm garnet]

you can dump everything in 1 machine to make stuff now

[small creek]

what justifies the crucible cost is

[peak yacht]

yoo my factory guys is this good??

[small creek]

the ability to easily swithc between heto part and comp

[hollow stone]

what u mean

[ruby sorrel]

well we're going to have to do it for event anyways

[storm garnet]

xircon used to need 3 reactors, now you can use 1 extended

[marble yarrow]

triple reactions happening simultaneously

[ruby sorrel]

but I'm getting rid of that purification water via med creation

[plucky mural]

bear with my with the resolution here but i wanna ask if the way i set up the pipe converger for the sewage pipeline is bad because my refining units keep getting clogged

[wary vine]

I just found out you can purify inert Xircon effluent into regular xircon effluent.. i guess it's to make Heavy xiranite more efficiently but what's the actual use case?

[copper lily]

Probably, it's more. Ngl i envy with your sheet

[storm garnet]

you need 4 extended to make 60/min xircon though

[subtle finch]

i really can't judge an aic report with any deficit, we're only talking about sustained yields

[hollow stone]

whatt i builded setup on normal ones because it isnt shown in game at least not in building description

[small creek]

you get 1 extra forge worth of xiranite

[marble yarrow]

a 12/min SC can output enough inert for a heavy forge

[small creek]

imagine 30 xiranite /min for free!!

I could use that for

sniffing

what

[storm garnet]

all 3 recipes happen at the same time inside

[marble yarrow]

12 SC + heavy forge

[storm garnet]

it's just a matter of it having enough space to allow it

[hollow stone]

ye know what, parrarel processing basicly IV stuff in gregtech

[storm garnet]

?

[worldly holly]

its 2.25 unless you dont do optimize and just put all the sc into powerbank

[hollow stone]

mine is quite messyxd

[undone current]

dats really compact

[wary vine]

So i'm supposed to purify 4x inert effluent and converge them all into a single forge of the sky, which would save me using 1 supply line of xiranite?

[storm garnet]

only crucibles have more than 1 recipe allowed at the same time

[hollow stone]

funny mod for minecraft dont recommend

[wary vine]

Oh thanks, i'll copy this~ xD

[storm garnet]

ah

[marble yarrow]

not actually messy, that looks organized

[copper lily]

1 conduit can only fill 2 machine. Iirc

[subtle finch]

at least 1k/hr of bills for me

[hoary crag]

12 SC battery line makes enough inert for a full uptime heavy xiranite line, essentially saving you 30/min xiranite

[small creek]

/min

[hollow stone]

i guess it works but anyway i might need to rebuild it in next version so it gonna stay that way

[storm garnet]

more than 1 type of item in a single stash...

[subtle finch]

like sc vs lc

[hoary crag]

30/s xiranite, a man can dream

[eternal wave]

Is hetonite components just really slow to make or is my production not optimised? I'm only making 1 per minute

[plucky mural]

nah it should be 4 since the pipe rate is 2/s and each machine uses like 0.5/s

[hoary crag]

that's like 60 forges

[small creek]

Oh hell nah

[plucky mural]

else i would have ran out of water there

[undone current]

rather rebuild, its probably extend, unless test area slap us with new machine

[small creek]

500 forges

we need 500 forges

[hoary crag]

ngl

should I like

[hollow stone]

replace reactors with exhanced since more space efficient

[marble yarrow]

its ok, heavy xir will take too long and im always online 😭

plus 40k heavy xiranite pool soon™

[hoary crag]

turn every essence farm into a mortar chamber?

[undone current]

[frail trail]

1/m is a pretty nice, max efficiency 6/m comp is not sustainable

[valid gazelle]

Peak hetonite line is 30 (240 over 180) divided by 5 to 6 divided by 2 to 3 per minute cap

So you're cool no worries

[hexed raft]

is max hetonite part 4.5/min?

[upper fiber]

60 for xircon, 22.5 for heto, 6.6 for extra sc bat, yeah still leftover powder 0.9/min

[storm garnet]

but what about the traffic accident you will get tomorrow? you can't play while in coma!

[eternal wave]

Dang,I thought I had to make another line of hetonite solution

[wary vine]

Sorry to bother you 😭 But is there any other "trick" i should know about besides purifying inert xircon effluent?

[valid gazelle]

I just need 60 extra for sustainable production lines

[eternal wave]

Honestly with all the pipes and byproducts making hetonite components is giving me a migraine

[valid gazelle]

It is fun :>

[upper fiber]

any setup for 29.16/min ferrium powder

[frail trail]

wait

[valid gazelle]

Making pipes

[frail trail]

we need 16 line (480 cuprium) for a 100% heto comp ?

[eternal wave]

THE PIPES CAN GO OVER THE DEPOT BUS THIS WHOLE TIME??

[frail trail]

these rate are awful

[valid gazelle]

WDYM

Bro...

[eternal wave]

I THOUGHT I COULSNT

[frail trail]

you could

[valid gazelle]

[eternal wave]

IVE BEEN PUTTING THE CONDUIT SO MUCH

[frail trail]

you can even have the depot unloader/loader 1 tile outside of the building area

[copper lily]

Isn't dev tell you about pipe from they introduce cuprium?
3 machine from 1 pump.
2 machine from 1 conduit.

[valid gazelle]

Omg.. bro just unlocked easy mode for himself

[eternal wave]

Sheesh...I've been enlightened

[storm garnet]

the biggest trick of this patch is deciding what to use the 30/min xiranite leftover

[valid gazelle]

You're welcome

[fluid vigil]

Is it efficient? Heck no.
Did I do it myself? Yes.
Hetonite components and Heavy Xiranite.

[frail trail]

5 and 7 split, good luck have fun

[eternal wave]

Thank you gang,I can now rearrange my piping

[valid gazelle]

Aaaaay

Let's goo

[undone current]

anyone got 6sc pic using extended crucible? also is it worth it in terms of power?

[subtle finch]

corrected the power earned

[marble yarrow]

its just 1/36

unloader >3 > 9 > 18 > 36

steal the 1/36th

[eternal wave]

Rn I need to wait nearly an hour just to make one piece of gear using hetonite component,is that normal? There's no way the normal is that slow

[frail trail]

ok i may or may not have flipped the ratio in my heada

im bald

[storm garnet]

did anyone find a use for 1/7 balancer yet?

gotta hit all primes

[frail trail]

someone found a prime splitter ? read something like that in #1461542035617091681 a few days ago

[unreal laurel]

HOW TF DID THE REACTOR SELF CLOG

[ruby sorrel]

that's gotta cost too much facility to ever be useful

[storm garnet]

actually, please get rid of the idea of a 1/7 balancer for me

[unreal laurel]

WTF

JWIHDNDJAHS*CRNAIZXFJE

[unreal laurel]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!

[storm garnet]

it took me like an hour to get a proper 1/5 balancer months ago

[graceful otter]

its producing extra sewage...

[spark hedge]

Vietnamese https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495333197217796136

[ruby sorrel]

can't you just steal stuff from factorio

[storm garnet]

but that's not fun

i already steal bps in factorio

[unreal laurel]

WHY TF IS THE REACTOR CLOGGED

[atomic fiber]

I don't want to setup another SC line just for the extra dense orig powder from meta transfer, what to do... I'm too lazy 😭

[storm garnet]

doing it here in factorio for kids is not fine

[unreal laurel]

YOU HAVE THE GODDAMN ITEMS,CRAFT ALRRADY

[valid gazelle]

Nice one bờ rô

[storm garnet]

you need to make another xircon effluent line if you want to make a second heavy xiranite forge anyways, so use that to make xircon

[eternal wave]

Have you need to set the output of the items? Or maybe there's sewage that's suppose to be made with the product but there isn't any space?

[shut hearth]

are we even able to reach 30/min hetonite production?

[valid gazelle]

Oh but.. @eternal wave pipe bridges, splitters etc. still hates having stuffs under them

[frail trail]

asteraster had a prime splitter in one of their min comp design, pretty sure it's just a sum function

[storm garnet]

you need the solid xircon to be a separate reactor though

[valid gazelle]

Only the pipes can go over

[pulsar cypress]

Lc line..
Swap to ferrium, make meds..

[storm garnet]

so priority of fluids is done properly

[umbral lotus]

Hi everyone!

[storm garnet]

lc is the easy choice, don't be a coward

[eternal wave]

Yea,I found that out when I trued to sync the pipes and belts to make it look neat...then I realise I can't put splitters or bridges

[worn creek]

Is this an efficient factory line?

[umbral lotus]

Anyone knows why this production aint working?

[subtle finch]

actually making yazhen C have other power cost
planter-seeder +30
filling unit +20
crucible +50
packaging unit +20
fitting +20
moulding +10
=150 power cost or 100 with free crucible
it's not worth it making that 0.375 of med C
if the bills earned also cost around 100w of power
@marble yarrow

[cyan bronze]

input higher than output ? ig

[subtle finch]

i wish we can just sell bottles again

[marble yarrow]

true. actually i only consider building a yazhen C line if its at least free 30/min ferrium to use

now im just waiting it to fill up to 68k ferriums before i power up one

[carmine igloo]

anyone has blueprint for AIC and the other 2 outpost?

[subtle finch]

makes sense

[graceful otter]

you need to unlock all slots in reactor with upgrades

[unreal laurel]

啃的你看好不就不吧呗！吧，型系不拿赫本不喝水本科线

[umbral lotus]

Oh I see

[unreal laurel]

im crashing out rn

[umbral lotus]

thank you

[unreal laurel]

WHY TF IS IT STILL BROKEN

[frail trail]

not the most power efficient with the amount of conduit

also no priority flow?

[vapid dock]

conduits dont use any power

[frail trail]

guess im bald again

[cyan bronze]

one reason i can think of is your output belt is set to a different one

oh and yeah

right

expanded crucible

fun

[atomic fiber]

what minimum yield of yanzhen C for it to be worth it then?

[pulsar cypress]

[unreal laurel]

someone help end my suffering....

[atomic fiber]

git gud

[unreal laurel]

the inert xircon effluent keeps clogging

[graceful otter]

when they add checker to manage amount of input\output without any workarounds...

[storm garnet]

anything is worth if you just

[unreal laurel]

idk why they keep doing that

[frail trail]

i just remember that I have a pharmacology test up coming

[storm garnet]

where does it clog

[unreal laurel]

right at the start

[frail trail]

i should be studying instead of doing factory math

[unreal laurel]

the output pipe is capped out but somehow its still clogging

[storm garnet]

but there should be a place where is full, then the next machine is not full

[atomic fiber]

just don't use extended crucible if it too hard, the only benefit from that is also just less space used, power wise it's same

[unreal laurel]

just double checking

[shut hearth]

with 8 forges, how many are we putting on xiranite vs heavy xiranite?

[atomic fiber]

1 heavy

[undone current]

1 heavy from 4 inert

[unreal laurel]

1 purifier for 4 reactor for 1 pipe

is that right

[upper fiber]

only saved 100 power from 2 full xircon

[cyan bronze]

in a way you can run less crucible which is less power cost ya know?

[ruby sorrel]

imagine if they trolled and made them use 125 power

[ornate sorrel]

so just to be clear on what i should spend for wuling stocks:
Heavy Xira + Bat on outpost 2
Bat + Hetopart on outpost 1?

[storm garnet]

i was fearing it was more than 100 tbh

[subtle finch]

0.375/min converted in bills, then converted to power is 102w, if you can make it with a free crucible, you earn 2w of power
realistically 0.5-1/min is the minimum acceptable rate, at least those can power a few ziplines

we're really talking surplus margins here though, if you don't pwm, none of this matter, go and spend all your ferrium

[upper fiber]

what is the url for that leek site again

[small creek]

Doesnt matter, just bankrupt them all

[pulsar cypress]

Is it worth to make if :
Yield - 90 + 25 meta = 115 ferrium
Use - 60 sc + ~11 for heto gear (90 cope) = ~71 ferrium

Leftover = ~44 ferrium for med C

Combine crucible with 3/min medA from the leftover copium.

[atomic fiber]

isn't xircon still need 2 xiran liquid anyway?

1 sc line normally is 5 crucible
at most with extended it will be 2 extended and 1 normal yeah?

[storm garnet]

what was the rate of hetonite components before bills start to be on deficit?

[upper fiber]

no, 2 expanded only

[ornate sorrel]

yeah but i can't use heavy xira and hetopart on the other outpost

[small creek]

you can make all hetocomp and still not be deficit

[atomic fiber]

oh... you combine the xircon

[storm garnet]

i c

[unreal laurel]

WHAT THE F***

[hot turret]

hi, may i ask, i have done max upgrading of all the terminals in the new area and also upgraded my base to max, but my regional development is still lacking of 540 points to level 12. does anyone know why? i cannot find any other activity that increases regional development exp

[upper fiber]

3 processes at once, not for show

[unreal laurel]

WTF THE F*** DOES THE PIPE TO THE PURIFIER HAVING 50 SINGLE UNITS OF RANDOM SHIT

[storm garnet]

from solid xiranite to solid xircon, 1 single machine

[valid gazelle]

Monitoring stations ?

[storm garnet]

15/min xircon

[unreal laurel]

HOW THE F*** DID THAT GET THERE

[hot turret]

i maxed as well..

[storm garnet]

you can make just up to liquid xircon on 1 and then make 30/min on another too, up to preference

[valid gazelle]

Then there shouldn't be a reason why you aren't getting there

Just do a check just to be sure

[vapid dock]

ok now I just need to squeeze in hetonite components

[storm garnet]

moving pipes around prob

[pulsar cypress]

The new one 2nd environment at new map area?

[graceful otter]

you probably have same issue as me today, just use less sewage output overall, its producing +1 sewage inside and clog idk

[upper fiber]

depot node and monitoring center on wuling
rabbit store on marker stone
all rigged mines

[graceful otter]

or what exactly are you talking

[storm garnet]

you should transfer dense originium, it's double in total

[unreal laurel]

This shit is painfu

The game crashed

[hot turret]

ohh thanks all! i think is the rigged mines, i did not check after i went to level 11. THANKS ALL

[undone current]

did u alternate the output pipe for dat?

[subtle finch]

afaik, this is not a good idea
dense ori is the better item to metatransfer and make sc or lc bat with

[vapid dock]

oh yeah its 1.5k, so metatransfer dense originium, turn it into origocrust powder, and then turn it into packed origocrust

[storm garnet]

oh, that sewage output is not used

[pulsar cypress]

Humm..

[carmine igloo]

any tips?

[subtle finch]

this is why we need a profit calculator with sliders
someone make one pls

[undone current]

[storm garnet]

water

[subtle finch]

turn yvonne around

[carmine igloo]

where to get it

[storm garnet]

pump

[undone current]

manual piping from here lol

[pulsar cypress]

Conduit from any water source..

[marble yarrow]

PUMP IT

[hot turret]

thanks, you are right, i did not check Wuling. thank you

[upper fiber]

hydro miner not using power

[peak sinew]

pump?
can you zoom up

[carmine igloo]

?

[storm garnet]

i just put the pump right there

it's tall, but the pump works

[carmine igloo]

what type of pump to use?

[subtle finch]

i got water from the top bed

1 pump for both mineral bed

[peak sinew]

yeah just use pump really
unless its in the way of your zipline

[hexed raft]

is max forge amount 4?

[storm garnet]

the normal one

mk2 is for piss acid only

[pulsar cypress]

+4? Yes.. Total 8 now..

[subtle finch]

@pulsar cypress what's the for?

[peak sinew]

zoom the map man

mini map, not the place

[unreal laurel]

Why's my xircon wobbly

The inputs are all correct but it ain't consistent

[peak sinew]

also dont do that tbh
dont build 2 poles that close to each other

[upper fiber]

water?

[pulsar cypress]

No, i thought u drag the pipe from somewhere really far..

[storm garnet]

hydro miners don't use electricity btw

just the pump

[peak sinew]

just link a pump near where you stand in that screen shot
dont build inside base

[undone current]

u can use top left, top right or bottom water source for it

[unreal laurel]

FINALLY

[subtle finch]

there's so many water source in the map

[unreal laurel]

THE DOUBLE SC IS COMPLETE

[storm garnet]

it's actually wrong but i won't tell you how

[peak sinew]

maybe i should do the quest

[carmine igloo]

i need this?

[peak sinew]

kinda lazy rn

[peak sinew]

yeah probably

[unreal laurel]

Screw you

[pulsar cypress]

That from pump, then other one beside it for the rig..

[peak sinew]

one pump can handle 3 mining machines

remember that

[grave veldt]

Depends on how much you hate random pipe just crossing entire AIC area

[carmine igloo]

i only got 500

[storm garnet]

actually tru, cause you are wasting 1 sandleaf powder belt

[undone current]

no need tbh

u can manual piping

[carmine igloo]

ok

[unreal laurel]

Yoooo

[storm garnet]

it's not mandatory, you can just put a lot of pipes

[carmine igloo]

noo

[unreal laurel]

Wtf did I do

[storm garnet]

be bad at gaming

[vale topaz]

Hmmm, lvl 2 new sub does not offer much, at least it start accepting sc bat.
More surprisingly, no tower defense mission introduced yet.

[undone current]

manual piping still work on those range

[unreal laurel]

All I did was make a 46x54 double SC+cuprium powder

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-23819241

[undone current]

[grave veldt]

Life is good - Until i cap on Heavy Xiranite and it breaks my battery production. Or i cap on Syringes and break battery production

[peak sinew]

isnt you can just build unlimited with splitter

[upper fiber]

you need 1 week to cap heavy xira

[unreal laurel]

Halo

[undone current]

yeah u can

[storm garnet]

works on every range

[unreal laurel]

How's my setup?

[carmine igloo]

is this good for 1.2 mega base?

[upper fiber]

good for u

[grave veldt]

Well it been already what, 3 days?

[subtle finch]

we are not providing blueprint tech support here, ask whoever provided it

[upper fiber]

just 5 taps at the outpost and done

[pulsar cypress]

Any good as long as it works perfectly after placed.

Oh yass.. Anyone have unlocked the new tp inside wuling city, north of dragon statue?

[unreal laurel]

got it

gl copying tho

its a headache

[hexed raft]

is 4.5 hetonite part/s, 6 heavy xiranite/s and 12 SC battery/s current max for wuling´m without metatransfer?

[unreal laurel]

yes

[hexed raft]

what should i metatransfer?

ferrium?

[subtle finch]

dense ori

[unreal laurel]

powder or ferrium

[hexed raft]

what am i supposed to use with that?

[subtle finch]

sc or lc bat

[hexed raft]

but wuling alredy got enough for 12

[subtle finch]

i forgot you have 30xiranite surplus

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message

[viscid plover]

omg it's so ugly lol

[crimson star]

why does my friend have a on and off swithc for his factory :Sob:, its a SINGLE PIPE

[subtle finch]

battery is the most profitable, so that's what you should be making

[upper fiber]

time for rework....

with the power of conduit

[peak sinew]

new fluid to fill the canal

[unreal laurel]

wanna copy mine?

[viscid plover]

ill have to rework it some other time
too tired to do it now

[ornate sorrel]

something's not right with my xiranite usage and idk what i'm doing wrong

[unreal laurel]

just copy someone

[viscid plover]

no thanks

[ornate sorrel]

120 for battery, 60 for heavy xira, 30 for component

[void owl]

why is the factory so complicated?

[ornate sorrel]

why am i still only spending 180??

[unreal laurel]

mines done bro,want the bp?

[viscid plover]

base is like 70% of the gameplay
having someone else play for me will turn this game into simple gambling machine

[hexed raft]

so i do third option?

[subtle finch]

factory is not complicated if you plan ahead and not wing it as you place and connect

[void owl]

which bp?

[unreal laurel]

finally someone who understands

[unreal laurel]

were you not looking for a double SC earlier and i said ill share once im done?

[viscid plover]

don't call me out like that

[void owl]

oh yeah

[unreal laurel]

im finally done

it was painful

[void owl]

yeah and im afaid im not xiranite stable

[subtle finch]

any, they can all clear the outpost, it depends how much you value excess production
all are calculated to use all resource

[unreal laurel]

haven't figured out xiranite yet?

thats not good

[void owl]

i have 2 being used for bats, and 6 for haeavy xir

i hate the forge limit with a passion

[upper fiber]

i think your pac won't be enough if no forge limit...

[unreal laurel]

6 for heavy?

[ruby sorrel]

what're you even going to do with more forges

[hexed raft]

well i need much money so i do third

[void owl]

yeah

[unreal laurel]

dont you only need 3?

[storm garnet]

no third outpost was teased yet right?

[void owl]

3 per forge

[unreal laurel]

couldve sworn it was only 3

[void owl]

im running 2 forges like a mad amn

[hollow stone]

pipe allows for up to 4 machines? if they use 1 per 2 s right?

[unreal laurel]

why are you running a double fat xiranite

one is enough

[hoary crag]

brotha we just got our 2nd outpost

tho we will be getting 12 forges soon

[hoary crag]

gases

[storm garnet]

gotta know how efficient i need to be with space

[vale topaz]

no, no new outpost being teased at 1.2 live preview.
another new map at re-run banner after this won't have new sub pac

[hollow stone]

what gases?

[ornate sorrel]

found the issue, i tried to keep one of the sandleaf power with protocol stash and somehow that seems to slow the whole thing down

[hoary crag]

description implies we're gonna get gasses at some point

when tho? who knows?

[storm garnet]

gasses are 2.0 prob

[hoary crag]

lol

[hoary crag]

best of luck ig

[hollow stone]

is there any diffrence between gases and liquids in this game, liquids already behave like gases

[unreal laurel]

so you want the double SC bp or not?

[hoary crag]

I've used around 2/3 of the space on both core and marker sub-pacs

[void owl]

yup

[hoary crag]

while barely using any space at all in stockade outpost

[storm garnet]

flavor and prob weird new ways to make things

we might even use burned gas to make energy

[hollow stone]

propably wont mather same as in factorio

[vale topaz]

4.38 / 4.5 power..... hope won't bleed into 2 sc bat : /
don't want to slow yazhen A to trade with faster hetonite

[upper fiber]

my marker subpac is empty

[vale topaz]

wait, hetonite part sell more then yazhen A

alright, tonight, will trade yazhen A progress with hetonite part

too exhausted to continue playing after done with story

[subtle finch]

don't split fluid with 3 series splitters in this game, it doesn't behave as manifold or like in factorio, and the last destination wont get enough for some reason
split it evenly

[hexed raft]

guys is the yellow stuff only near new PAC?

[hollow stone]

BUT u need like 240 cuprium per one 30 hetonite per minute xd

[peak sinew]

this map aint lack water

[unreal laurel]

how tf do i convert this to a bp.....

btw,youre on asia right?

[small creek]

The time has come for my 2/min LCV battery to shine

[unreal laurel]

whats LCV?

[pulsar cypress]

There's another small pond near wuling city.

[unreal laurel]

since when

[small creek]

Now i have enough power for the new turrets

[pulsar cypress]

Since beginning..
The one we see at beginning of mq..

[glossy sequoia]

does anyone have a xircon blueprint using extended crusible ? im from asia server

[unreal laurel]

we saw one at the beginning of main quest?

[unreal laurel]

are those v4 lcs

[hexed raft]

does 6 heavy xiranite/min use 60 or 90 xiranite?

[subtle finch]

.gethisass

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[small creek]

Nope do not get my ass

[unreal laurel]

60

[small creek]

Discord what are you doing

[hexed raft]

how? isn't it 90?

[nova pilot]

I kinda wish we got cannons that fire up whole ahh batteries like a nuke then you need to manually reload them

[small creek]

You dont

You would constantly overkill

[vale topaz]

Nah, won't optimize hetonite part, only the hetonite, should only be 120 cuprium only.
120 refined then shred.
AND then :
1 expanded crucible with 1 curpium dust input, 1 ferium dust
3 normal crucible with 3 cuprium dust
2 acid pump for 4 crucibles ( 2 each )
2 purification with merged ouput toward that 1 expanded crucible, input is from all crucible.

[storm garnet]

you get effluent from recyling inert from xircon crucibles

using the purification unit

[hexed raft]

oh then i got more forges left over for battery?

[digital cloud]

Am I wrong or don't you need 240 cuprium ore for 100% efficient hetonite component output?

[storm garnet]

7 forges to make xiranite, 1 for heavy, 2 of the xiranite go to heavy, 4 are used for xircon, 1 is wildcard

[hexed raft]

last one for extra battery

[storm garnet]

ideally

you need meta transfer dense ori

[reef horizon]

is 12 batteries, 6 heavy xira and 5.5 heto max prod?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[vale topaz]

not enough cubes, sadly
also large chance your power will go over 4.5

[hexed raft]

metatransfer

[hexed raft]

then ill use more battery

[sick basin]

Im using 5k power
Who cares by now

[storm garnet]

17.5 xiranite is left after making xircon

you can stock up until almost full, then change to 2 heavy forges setup until empty, then repeat

[vale topaz]

just don't want too early using beyond 4.5k power.

[hexed raft]

nah and that xiranite will probably be sued in future when wuling done

[marble yarrow]

guys my main AIC has a sub-PAC 😭

[storm garnet]

btw, i just realized i need to input the exact liquid xiranite or i end up making too much xircon

[fluid fog]

Same, Am using 5.25k power

[vale topaz]

burning 2 sc battery or 1 sc + 2 hc v4 ?

[storm garnet]

wait, maybe it's fine it depot fills with xircon

[small creek]

Me babe

[storm garnet]

ah, no, sewage...

[small creek]

I am running 4.32k

[storm garnet]

but maybe...

[fluid fog]

2 SC Bat. making 6.6k

[storm garnet]

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[sick basin]

Skill issue then

[small creek]

Wtf

[fluid fog]

I probably able to use 6k in May 14 once the additional forge release.

[sick basin]

My base is my original
And im happy with it

[fathom glade]

This schema look right?

[sick basin]

Making comps, making parts, 30 xira free

Easy game

[subtle finch]

my base is perfect, i dont wanna hear anything about it

[wispy grove]

[delicate wedge]

is there a whole factory set up that is considered the best atm?

[vale topaz]

hmm, hope the hetonite part can be trade of for reduction in sc production.

[void owl]

this is so janky dude

[sick basin]

Well, yes easily lol

Making hetonite id better than yazhen so

Eating 1 extra battery every like, 90s isnt a problem

[vale topaz]

yeah, even heavy xiranite is better then yazhen A

[storm garnet]

we need the new components atm, so going full 180 cuprium on hetonite is best

[hollow stone]

expanded crucible counts as 3 of normal ones?

[storm garnet]

for xircon, yes

[delicate wedge]

any build to copy so far? or is it still in the works?

[hollow stone]

only xircon?

[storm garnet]

xircon is the only one that can fit 3 recipes in one machine

it makes 15/min only though

[hollow stone]

ah i see ty

[storm garnet]

idk, i just make my factory myself

[hollow stone]

i guess i gonna stay with normal ones then for now

[atomic fiber]

when doing expanded crucible from xiranite to xircon. it's self sufficient on sewage? how is that possible?

[storm garnet]

i just worry about ratios

[sick basin]

I mean, any base that is making heavy xiranite, heta parts/comps and replacing yazhenA is good

Like, properly
And maybe also reusing inert from battery lines into effluent for heavy xira, freeing 30/m xiranite to use elsewhere

[storm garnet]

you save 100 energy and some space if you make xircon with expanded

[hollow stone]

i only got it builded

[storm garnet]

not a high priority, but it's nice

[atomic fiber]

anyone? is this true?

[storm garnet]

yea, just leave it then

[delicate wedge]

yeah my brain is not braining enough for such stuff, ill just wait for BPs 😄

[undone current]

u don't really need to rebuild ur base right now

assuming u don't do pwm

[fathom glade]

imma check

[storm garnet]

sewage is self sufficent if input is split in half before

aka 1 refinery feeds 2 crucibles

no need to output any sewage

[fathom glade]

Yeah, input needs to be attenuated at half

[atomic fiber]

and then after that. you can just remove the sewage pipe input??

[ornate sorrel]

so what do i do with the excess 1 xiranite forge once everything's done with? Half speed heavy xiranite doesn't seem to be very feasible?

[storm garnet]

sewage input and consumption is exact like that

[fathom glade]

You can use the excess for component making and partial battery generation per metatransfer

[marble yarrow]

GAH THAT BUS PORT

[storm garnet]

no, i mean that you need a constant half pipe in

[atomic fiber]

oh... ok thx

[undone current]

refund 0.5 sewage

[neon path]

refunded sewage doesn't give ult gain

[storm garnet]

i have it set so the splitter splits in 3, and the third pipe goes to a treatment unit that is turned off, just in case

[ornate sorrel]

also is it time to finally tap in into using 3rd wuling battery? 6600 points doesn't seem enougha nymore

[undone current]

its still enough

[neon path]

2 batteries is plenty

[glossy sequoia]

where are you guys getting sewage to add into xircon production ?

[undone current]

cuprium

[atomic fiber]

what about the meta transfer one? how do you guys make things things don't broke on offline especially on the sewage part? when doing extended crucible from xiranite to xircon

[storm garnet]

just use batteries on turrets man

[vale topaz]

more surprised how you go over 6.6k power.... unless all of your tower is not using batteries

[storm garnet]

offline bug is almost non existent cause everything is already inside the machine

[ornate sorrel]

you can use batteries for tower?

[storm garnet]

just put 2 xiranite belts per crucible

like the patch before

[void owl]

anyone has a bp that loats copim from depot to make the new componet?

[graceful otter]

if i make Xircon Effluent from 4 extended reactors into Heavy Xiranite its not gonna clog anywhere and there would be +1 free xiranite line right?

[undone current]

nah, its still enough

[vale topaz]

yeah, just use v4 HC , they will last depend on how often you use them to kill enemies.
if never use them, will last forever

[atomic fiber]

so just inputting 1/8 sewage from refinement works? for the meta transfer extended crucible?

[undone current]

my shit sitting at 5.9k right now for not using batteries on towers

[ornate sorrel]

do i need to turn it on or off?

[wispy grove]

What? Why?

[ornate sorrel]

i dont know how to do that

[vale topaz]

nope, just remove them from electrical tower area of influence

[storm garnet]

for the 5th xircon line for meta, i recommend using a lone reactor for the final solid xircon recipe, so you can manage the effluent ratios

[atomic fiber]

nvm, how much is dense ori meta transfer again?

[wispy grove]

25/min

[storm garnet]

i'm also using reactors for the other 2 recipes cause i still want to use the 40k courtyard for liquid xiranite

[atomic fiber]

oh... you haven't tried?

[atomic fiber]

oh... ok

[storm garnet]

i did try, it failed

[ornate sorrel]

I have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about, mind showing me something

[atomic fiber]

welp

thx for the info

[storm garnet]

it could work with better pipe balancing maybe

i still need to balance pipes anyways cause i'm making too much xircon

[atomic fiber]

pipe balancing on offline especially 25/min is hard

[storm garnet]

if depot fills, it will mess up sewage from the normal xircon lines

[ornate sorrel]

like how do you even use a battery to replace that in the first place?

[wispy grove]

Me using metatrasnfer for xira comps

[vale topaz]

just click the tower, it will show slot to place battery

[atomic fiber]

it will last like forever. my tower that i have since release, still have lots of battery

[storm garnet]

if you disconnect a turret from electricity, they get a battery slot inside

they last forever

[hollow stone]

how do i use expanded for xircon so it takes both paths>

[atomic fiber]

like only 2-3 battery gone since release? lol

[hollow stone]

or it only for xircon elluent?

[lapis ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmjkwWhHWwg&t=66s
does sciel have a discord server? i just wanted to ask why he doesn't produce yazhen syringe [A] anymore

[ornate sorrel]

i'm honestly baffled

[pulsar cypress]

All copium use for heto products..

[ornate sorrel]

like how come have i never heard of this at all

[hollow stone]

u need to add water?

[vale topaz]

no electrical tower required, and better to not put it near the towers.
interact with the tower and insert battery there.
the power will last depend on how often you use them.
if never use them, the battery will never depleted.

[storm garnet]

for making liquid xiranite

[ornate sorrel]

yeah i gotta be honest i never even knew you can do this until now

[storm garnet]

i think devs expect people to put turrets randomly and check inside

[glossy sequoia]

can extended crusible be used for production of xircon ??

[storm garnet]

check my pic above

[vale topaz]

yeah, it's a nice thing to have.
you have more freedom for tower placement, not dictated by electrical problem.

[hollow stone]

so u making liquidxiranite and elluen and xiranite at the same time?

[storm garnet]

all 3 recipes at the same time

[unreal laurel]

My brain is so dead.....

[storm garnet]

the solid xircon recipe works at half speed though

[hollow stone]

oh i see so it exactly parrarel. i thought u can make same recipe twice

[vale topaz]

why ?

[unreal laurel]

Pipes

[storm garnet]

no, you can't make the same recipe more than once per machine

[hollow stone]

stupid restriction

[unreal laurel]

Nah, that's a skill issue

You can make it run at 100% spd

[storm garnet]

you guys would suffer so much from 1.0 factorio pipes

or satisfactory pipes

[hollow stone]

never played 1.0 factorio pipes
thought played with sati pipes
but also only 1.0 if they were diffrent in past xd

[storm garnet]

1.0 factorio is like satisfactory on steroids

[unreal laurel]

Those are better than this shit imo

[hollow stone]

now its infinte throughput

[glossy sequoia]

Man i tried but my Xircon is 15 / min. I dunno what I'm doing wrong. Could you show me your design ? I'm adding sewage from cuprium. 2 x xiranite outputs and 1 ferrium powder into extended crucible

[vale topaz]

you'll get used to it.
just remember that fluid from pumps can be used for 2 factory unit.
while fluid from production ( sewage , xircon liquid, xircon waste, cuprium liquid ) only for 1 factory unit.

[storm garnet]

factorio 2.0 is like endfield but infinite speed inside pipes, pipe connections need pumps though

[unreal laurel]

gl dechipering this craziness

[ornate sorrel]

whats the tower meta now?

[shut hearth]

what exactly is the benefit of the larger conduit?

[small creek]

Guys

I cant believe it

[ornate sorrel]

is flamethower getting replaced already?

[storm garnet]

it is supossed to be 15/min

[small creek]

They really made wisadel reconvener

[storm garnet]

you need to x4 this to get 60

[small creek]

No not really, its still good

[unreal laurel]

Mines 30

[small creek]

Mortars are bis almost everywhere, but you still pair them with flamethrowers to cover the downtime

[unreal laurel]

Take a look

[storm garnet]

it might be useful for the new zone next month

[small creek]

for example, this setup takes 50 seconds

[grave veldt]

I run 2x double half Xicron and splitting sewage into 0.5 between them from cuprium, otherwise sewage "refund" from xircon craft will clog

[upper fiber]

why not just full xircon on 1 side

[glossy sequoia]

i see. isnt this supposed to save space and give us 60/ min ? its gonna take same space as before then whats the point of using this over normal crusible ?

[unreal laurel]

i think i might have one of the more elegant solutions

[void owl]

anyone has a hetonite part factory bp that has more than 4 inputs?

[grave veldt]

Call me in 2 hours when i produce enough parts for that many wisadel towers

[storm garnet]

4 crucibles vs 10

and 100 less energy

[unreal laurel]

its clean,produces the full 60 and has no issues with byproducts

[unreal laurel]

im having trouble making a bp,could you just copy it manually?

[ornate sorrel]

use all 3 new towers and flamethower then?

[glossy sequoia]

bro could you share your top view for xircon ?

[alpine tendon]

How many cuprium ore outputs do I need to make hetonite components?

[void owl]

eh num then im satisfied with my factory atm

[storm garnet]

it's a bit messy. wait

[unreal laurel]

k,ill try to get a bp version if youre up for it tho

[small creek]

beam is ehh

[unreal laurel]

mines clean and ready to go

[glossy sequoia]

for one extended crucible, you are using 2 x xiranite, 1 x ferrium , 1 x sewage from cuprium right ?

[storm garnet]

i highlighted the refinery making sewage, ignore the pipe going down

[grave veldt]

100% efficiency hetonite would take 240 while we have only 180 (and i don't khow what test area will add)

[sleek mulch]

maybe im just tired but how the fuck am i using 2.5 batt/min without pwm

[unreal laurel]

bro this is shit

[storm garnet]

i know

i like it when it looks like shit but it works

[unreal laurel]

did we give up when the game introduced pipes

[void owl]

anyone has a hetonite part factory bp that has more than 4 inputs?

[unreal laurel]

is that another 5 reactors.....

[grave veldt]

I gave up when there was no option to change direction of input/output pipes which stabbed my habbit of making mirror reflected designs

[storm garnet]

for me, this video is tuesdayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1fq9jxKZ68

[unreal laurel]

i hate that too

[void owl]

wdym anoter 5 reactors?

[sleek mulch]

anyone have a clue?

[unreal laurel]

this is heotite thingy right

[void owl]

yeah

[unreal laurel]

the 4 reactors for double sc was painful enough

seeing 5 more is giving me nightmares

[glossy sequoia]

bro which server are you from ?

[unreal laurel]

asia

[upper fiber]

try 30min report

[storm garnet]

you can use a expanded so it's 4 total if you want

[glossy sequoia]

could you share me your xircon blueprint ?

[unreal laurel]

thats where half the ptsd is from

[storm garnet]

but tbh, i might change it to 5 reactors

[unreal laurel]

if i can figure out how to convert it into a bp

[glossy sequoia]

you select the parts and select save as blueprint option

[sleek mulch]

that just flattens out and averages to 3/min since it rounds up

it should be a stable 3/min even at 10 minutes though

[unreal laurel]

Its too big to save

[cloud hearth]

am i missing something or does the expanded crucible actually not change the SC battery production line because it can only process 1 unit per 2 sec of liquid xiranite and xircon effluent

[unreal laurel]

Even half of it is too big to save

[storm garnet]

control s

[sleek mulch]

matter of fact i can't even find the second thermal bank

im genuinely so confused

like is there a ghost taking my batteries

[unreal laurel]

I'm gonna have to section it into quarters

[sick basin]

Hi babe

[sleek mulch]

hi fredi

theres a ghost haunting my aic

and its taking exactly 1/min sc battery

[sick basin]

Oh no
What a bad ghost

[sleek mulch]

im getting the full 6.6k power though

[sick basin]

I guess he had enough of being in a dark home

[ruby sorrel]

what a strange looking pipe

[sleek mulch]

so idk where that 0.5/min batt is manifesting itself from

[storm garnet]

liquid xiranite and effluent recipes work as normal, it's the solid xircon recipe that works at half speed

[sick basin]

Funny is when my ghost instead lets me habe like 14sc/m instead

[unreal laurel]

It doesn't work at half tho

[upper fiber]

it is average of 2 and 4,
every 2mins you have peak consumption of 4 and lowest 2

[ornate sorrel]

would this do then?

[storm garnet]

effluent made is 1, solid xircon needs 2, so solid xircon needs to wait to get made

[unreal laurel]

Nope

[storm garnet]

ok, i'm convinced

[unreal laurel]

lemme introduce my idea

i take the effluent and move it

now i get 100%

[storm garnet]

that's the other way to do it

it's the same thing

[cyan forge]

Btw is there no tower defense in the new subaic?

[unreal laurel]

its better this way imo cause now sewage only runs through 2 reactors instead of 4

[storm garnet]

it's actually worse if you consider belt offline bug, cause you need more outputs of solid xircon

[unreal laurel]

look at my sewage line

[unreal laurel]

whut

[storm garnet]

you need to output sewage like that, if you make 15/min there is no need to output sewage

i won't explain offline bug now

[upper fiber]

copium bug

[unreal laurel]

why would i output sewage

[upper fiber]

it is okay, both way work just fine

[unreal laurel]

theres no need to

[edgy sedge]

whats the ratio of planter/seed-picker for a yazhen to carbon maker?

[storm garnet]

nvm, i just did a quick check before

[upper fiber]

1planter 1 seedpicker = 1 yazhen = 2 carbon

[ruby sorrel]

why are ppl still going on about offline bug, it's irrelevant now

[unreal laurel]

Btw

Where tf is the delivery transfer button

[ruby sorrel]

in missions

[edgy sedge]

nice thanks

[unreal laurel]

I can't find it

[ruby sorrel]

or just click on it in the delivery screen

[unreal laurel]

How

[pulsar cypress]

Accept delivery.
Close menu.
Go to mission tab.

[unreal laurel]

Ok

[sleek mulch]

ah right so i am just tired, i forgot it does that based on when you actually place them down

[upper fiber]

if you using controller then i can tell you the shortcut

[ruby sorrel]

honestly if you're doing multiple depots it's faster to go back to delivery screen

[sonic summit]

guys will this enough to make 90/m xircon ?

[unreal laurel]

Why 90

[sleek mulch]

um. sure, i guess its fine now

[upper fiber]

no sewage = 0 xircon

[sonic summit]

i can jump start it after that it self made right?

[ruby sorrel]

there's no jumpstarting you need sewage input to make xircon

[atomic fiber]

i feel the factory just getting more and more cursed

[unreal laurel]

2 of my reactors are running a jump start tho

[quartz pecan]

it's only getting worse

[sonic summit]

???this is self made from here right?

[storm garnet]

it went nuts after ideal ratio became 7 forges for xiranite 1 for heavy xiranite, and 1 xiranite forge being extra

[ruby sorrel]

you need 2 sewage per xircon

[atomic fiber]

i hate this, especially for the 25/min dense orig powder from meta transfer. and the fact that it's actually possible

[ruby sorrel]

you only make 1

[sonic summit]

yeah i made 1

[storm garnet]

also, cuprium yield is now worse than ferrium

[viscid plover]

this is at half speed btw, not good

[sonic summit]

the blue make xircon the red is effluent

[unreal laurel]

Nice

[ruby sorrel]

there's no jumpstarting if you never put sewage into it yourself, or it's not jumpstarting if you have to give it .25/s sewage the entire time

[storm garnet]

you need 1 sewage to make 1 effluent, you use 2 effluent to make 1 sewage, not the same ratio

[atomic fiber]

and how someone actually calculate that making Syringe C with the left over ferrium, actually make you lose more battery and stock bill

[ruby sorrel]

wth is this jumpstarting business from anyways

[unreal laurel]

I can show you

[sonic summit]

yeah thats why the every 1 xircon use 2 crucible

[sterile oriole]

Does anyone (for europe/america servers) have a blueprint for Liquid Heavy Xiranite on hand by any chance?

[unreal laurel]

There's no sewage at all in the top 2 reactors

It's just running on itself

[upper fiber]

we are talking about the bottom 2

[storm garnet]

you put heavy xiranite and acid in a reactor, that's it

[ruby sorrel]

so? jumpstarting means you need to put sewage into it to start and then stop putting in sewage

[unreal laurel]

The bottom 2 don't produce xircon, they don't count

[ruby sorrel]

if you aren't doing that it's not jumpstarting

are ppl just making up words now

[sterile oriole]

I kno but that's not my question XD

[storm garnet]

gotta feel important

[unreal laurel]

It's not an actual Jumpstart but just starting the reactor Jumpstarts the sewage loop in a sense

[upper fiber]

nah, he is talking about the top while we talking about the bottom part

[storm garnet]

it depends on what you actually want to make, if you start from the beginning then it's planting

[sterile oriole]

Bottles of ferrium of heavy xiranite

[unreal laurel]

The bottom isn't making any xircon

[storm garnet]

that's a long line

i mean, from where are you starting

[unreal laurel]

We're talking about Jumpstarting sewage loop for xircon

[storm garnet]

also, you just need to connect the liquid heavy xiranite reactor to a filling unit

then feed some bottles

[sonic summit]

btw what max if not making gearing at all?

[sterile oriole]

Yes I know, I just wanted to know if someone has a ready on hand blueprint

Well I'ma do it myself quick

[unreal laurel]

Why bottles

[atomic fiber]

have anyone got idea what to do with the leftover Ferrium

[unreal laurel]

Just sell the heavy ferrium raw

[sterile oriole]

I think you need it for spray ?

[subtle finch]

temporary connecting/feeding something is the definition of jumpstart to me

[storm garnet]

you just make the same things, but use hetonite parts and heavy xiranite for outpost selling

[hexed raft]

should i rpoduce xiranite and cuprium parts? i got 13k of each

[unreal laurel]

Just need to clarify I just gave my interpretation of a Jumpstart, I didn't call mine a jumpstart

[wispy grove]

[quartz pecan]

this is actually super helpful thank you, I feel dumb now for trying to make 6 Xiranite 2 Heavy Xiranite work 😂

[storm garnet]

2 heavy setup can work, but only temporarily, when you fill the depot with xiranite

[upper fiber]

you can switch job for the last forge

[ruby sorrel]

literally what you said

[upper fiber]

the heavy job and not heavy job

[fluid fog]

w88888

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE?

[wispy grove]

ITS THE SAME THING

[fluid fog]

how the heck this one doesn't get clogged.

[storm garnet]

don't output sewage, only input, or it will clog

[wispy grove]

soon

[hollow stone]

is this region aviable or in future versions?

[fluid fog]

dude, that's not the problem here...

[dense stirrup]

how does that loop work XD

[storm garnet]

they only show ones already available, you just need to reach the zone

[fluid fog]

how the hell sewage output doesnt get clogged and it just cycle repeated in in the pipe without end.

[storm garnet]

idk for sure, i can't see it work

[storm garnet]

that's exactly one of the problems with outputting sewage

output is prioritized over using sewage

but you have some inside, so i still don't know

[fluid fog]

yet her it doesn't say its clogged in output unlike the other one (enert) KEKW

even though its full

ANYWAY, it actually help me to use my method

Am actually happy

[storm garnet]

i'm not even sure if the machine is stopped

[upper fiber]

it should be clogged now.... xircon full

[storm garnet]

well, yea, 48 and belt is full, so soon to be clogged

[fluid fog]

yeah because this is a excess Xircon not the mainline.

[atomic fiber]

i hate how this is the most optimal solution

[small creek]

+50 since dense orig is worth 2 orig

[hexed raft]

can i transport liquid across aic areas without bottle them?

[atomic fiber]

oh.. right lol

[small creek]

yeah, with a shitton of conduit

[storm garnet]

ah, if this is the 5th crucible for the meta transfer dense ori, then you need to make the xircon in a reactor by itself if you don't want to balance pipes like crazy

[heavy wing]

quick question, if I have two reactor crucibles supplying one purification unit with cuprium fluid, am I gonna run out of said fluid or will they be able to keep up with production

[subtle finch]

BOO!

[small creek]

go away

[storm garnet]

still need to though, but not that high priority

[hexed raft]

so should i do it or just produce the hetonite things near the piss pond

[storm garnet]

(this is something i'm telling myself)

[fluid fog]

I know that, I just want to experiment something

[small creek]

the latter is what i do

give up on tryna put everything in the same place

[atomic fiber]

somehow it looks better now

[hexed raft]

why?

[small creek]

futile

[heavy wing]

please help me out with this, I'm starting to feel like a schizophrenic trying to figure this out by myself

[small creek]

we do not fear a hard fight, only a futile one

[storm garnet]

purification unit needs 4 inputs for full speed

[hexed raft]

oh

[heavy wing]

and yet it only has two

[small creek]

converge before putting in bro

[lusty violet]

it needs 2/s, so one pipe can supply it

[marble yarrow]

Switching Heavy-Normal Xiranite production

[storm garnet]

you can't even have a full hetonite setup anyways, cause a full setup needs 8 reactors

we need more purity on cuprium nodes

[heavy wing]

[shut hearth]

wait can 2 expanded crucibles just produce 2 xircon with just water xiranite and ferrium powder after we give it some initial sewage?

[small creek]

the sewage will have to be constant

but yes 2 expanded will do

[heavy wing]

thank you all for your very helpful answers

[nova lodge]

the amount of ore nodes for wulling region sure is hella scarce....

[small creek]

total of 4 crucibles

[storm garnet]

ok, but not having to turn off anything is true endgame

just get 6.6k energy

[atomic fiber]

interesting... looks lots of works tho... i don't want to disemble my xiranite production, it's too tightly coupled

[small creek]

im very helpful

[storm garnet]

leftover xiranite can only be used like that sadly

[nova lodge]

is there anyway to connect conduit still without exiting AIC topview mode?

[atomic fiber]

[storm garnet]

nope...

[nova lodge]

[atomic fiber]

who tf designed this new factory

[small creek]

you

[subtle finch]

what's this used for?
im using 4 inert for the heavy though, this will stop my sc batteries if i stopped heavy prod

[marble yarrow]

this is what i've planned in the beginning, thats why i specifically brought 2 forge into main AIC because they can be dynamic, and Jingyu has the 6 Forges

[storm garnet]

a madman that i hope is thinking of next month ratios

[upper fiber]

if already connected, you can move the inside one freely without disconnected

[marble yarrow]

its the 2nd heavy forge

[atomic fiber]

the excess stockbill after outpost is very little too, this is cursed

[subtle finch]

i see

[nova lodge]

the thing is.....my conduits sometimes is placed outside the AIC grid =.=;;;

[subtle finch]

you need that much heavy though?

[upper fiber]

i never tried that yet

[storm garnet]

just don't make components! 6head

[marble yarrow]

yeah, since you can sell it, rather than selling the xiranite that fills your depot

its a xiranite burning method

[hoary crag]

nice

[subtle finch]

definitely an interesting problem to automate, which i will not do and wait for someone else instead

[small creek]

heres another idea

[upper fiber]

the issue with that setup is you burn the xiranite too fast

[hoary crag]

yeah it could work with a day-based schedule as well

[storm garnet]

i had a 2 heavy setup, but removed it to make the meta ori xircon, so i need to remake it

[hexed raft]

how much water 1 pump make/s?

[small creek]

make bottled xircon with the extra xiranite for the next update

i rest my case

[storm garnet]

but first i need to balance the pipes so i don't make so much xircon

[marble yarrow]

true

[hoary crag]

basically an alternate production on xiranite and heavy xiranite, to be adjusted daily

[storm garnet]

wait, fuck, i can't make solid xircon when i make double heavy

well, maybe i can use .25 effluent to make xircon, but man...

so, i need to balance pipes to both use 25 dense ori or use .25 effluent whenever i want

[marble yarrow]

1

[heavy wing]

two hetonite production line takes up way too much space

any suggestions to make it more vertical

[storm garnet]

bring a belt up then down

[heavy wing]

but what belt

[storm garnet]

any

make a dick shape too

[heavy wing]

okay

[subtle finch]

no one answers a question here about compacting a build
that was your choice to make

[heavy wing]

I'll keep that in mind

[gentle sentinel]

Broda why you let me in the blueprint page then

[storm garnet]

some people make compact bps on the bp channel

[storm garnet]

just feeding some false hope

i guess i need to control the xiranite effluent by balancing the sewage. ugh

[vale topaz]

wow, there's acually a limit on how many bp one can make...

[gentle sentinel]

Nah it's the facility

[storm garnet]

i'm still trying to decide if i use the 5th solid xircon sewage output on the balancing or i just void it entirely

i should prob void it

[undone current]

anyone remember how much we actually save in power for switching into hydro miner?

[vale topaz]

owh x_X

[storm garnet]

5 per pump

[undone current]

i mean in total

[storm garnet]

cause you replace 3 miners

90 i think

[undone current]

only 90?

[storm garnet]

maybe a bit more if we use the excess of the new nodes

i can't be bothered with conecting the water from the cuprium nodes to other places tbh

maybe in the future

[undone current]

nah dont count the new node, cuprium already need hydro miner anyway, i mean hydrominer on ferro n origi

[storm garnet]

pumps feed 3 miners, but new nodes are only 2 miners, so you get 1 extra

[marble yarrow]

[storm garnet]

that's 5 energy you can save technically

[storm garnet]

there are 3 places in total with 1 extra, which would save another pump elsewhere, so 10

[strong quiver]

CURSE YOU UNADJUSTABLE OUTPUT PORT

FRIGGING

[undone current]

welp, back to electric mk1 n mk2 then

[storm garnet]

don't ever use mk2, that's just for ferrium, and you can easily use pumps for the ferrium nodes

you save double energy cause mk2 uses double energy

[undone current]

yeah i know, i mean reverting from hydro miner into mk1/mk2 for origi/ferro

[marble yarrow]

100+ 110

[storm garnet]

but why

protocol capacity or what

[undone current]

yeah, got hit by protocol limit

[storm garnet]

delete farm

and don't use all ziplines

if counting low purity maybe

[gentle sentinel]

What the difference when counted 1 pump per 3 veins?

[storm garnet]

1 per 3 means counting as all high

[undone current]

ok2

[storm garnet]

1 per 6 if low

[subtle finch]

cuprium solution and xiranite liquid in the same crucible is definitely a choice

[undone current]

1 for 6 too hassle when we get high purity, not even bothered to do it

[gentle sentinel]

I mean if you gonna min max, but I doubt it

[marble yarrow]

my qingbo cupriums only uses 2 pump, marker stone on 1 pump

[storm garnet]

could be interpreted as 1 pump do 6, and high purity uses 2

[strong quiver]

it save spaces and the produce are alll close loop

[marble yarrow]

its not, if you know how to ratio fast enough