aic-factory

[wild acorn]

is it any wuling plant?

[subtle finch]

im a hoarder, so surplus matters to me

[trim star]

yeah

both wuling plants work perfectly fine

[frail trail]

wait wtf we only got +60 cuprium this update ?

[trim star]

two nodes yes

[wild acorn]

ookiee thxx

[fluid fog]

oh boi same 🤝

[pulsar willow]

yep

[trim star]

both one high purity one low purity

[final sierra]

I fully removed syringe A production cuz already have 50k and it will be enough if not for sale (cuz we have new items to sell)

[frail trail]

this shi is so crine

[devout egret]

Cant get in

[pulsar willow]

we also got the refinery

[trim star]

there are a bunch of cut off paths in wuling

if you were just casually exploring

[pulsar willow]

that can free up 1 of your sky forges

[trim star]

also im still confused on why they just randomly expanded the city as well but hey stuff to do with the new puzzle mechanic

[frail trail]

👀 the refinery ?

[trim star]

purification

you can do 4:1 inert effluent for working effluent

[frail trail]

oh shi

[trim star]

which you feed to the sky forge making heavy xiranite

[pulsar willow]

ah yeah, the purification facility, IDK how it's called in english lol, my game is in russian

[trim star]

so you end up with 1 free forge

[pulsar willow]

I try to use the correct terms but stumble every so often

[trim star]

test area will come with purification of sewage (although im kinda not seeing water recycling being particularly useful given how easy it is to feed but it will save some space or smth)

[crimson inlet]

Yeah, I saw the translation of Purification Unit in russian (my 2nd lang), and its very off tbh

[trim star]

refinery

[jovial breach]

That's right

[final sierra]

ideal for recycling all dirt Xiron from 2 battery 02 production

[trim star]

oil in endfield...

[upper fiber]

seems like it is possible space wise to make all in main pac, but the facility limit....

[trim star]

facility limit hasnt seemed to stop anyone from making everything in main pac as far as ive seen

it's just more convenient to do the acid stuff in the zone made for the acid stuff

[crimson inlet]

Test Area will most likely introduce an improved recipe for SC batteries imo, due to a different formula of Xircon creation (wall in the Test Area outputs it directly)

[fluid fog]

Very worth to do it. Since it eliminate to use waste treatment and it does have actually use.

[jovial breach]

Different formula?

[trim star]

nah you gotta combine the xircon 4:1 for super xircon and also recycle that somehow and get hc batteries

trust

[crimson inlet]

Thats what Im thinking about yeah. You can see in the broadcast vod that the wall can output xircon fluid

[trim star]

they're really quite enjoying this 4:1 ratio and honestly im not against it at all because it means i can link 4 machines together

so

[final sierra]

yea :))))

[upper fiber]

it seems you can't, i'm left with 20 limit without xiranite base production

[trim star]

oh xiranite

yeah i guess if you also tried to fill it with xiranite it wouldnt work just barely

[jovial breach]

but you already doing it with puri unit tho unless that place let you do something with the sewage

[trim star]

i think pretty much everyone has xiranite prod on subaic

rip my machines that bottles fluids and then immidately separates them i will have to retire it to another location

because i should probably fill my sub aic lol

[true parrot]

AAAA i can't even produce sandleaf in this region?? i'm going to cry

[crimson inlet]

Yep, maybe a different ratio or fluid conversion. I don’t think we will be getting Outpost #3 there, so it will be funny to route all the liquid towards Test Area and back to AIC as well

[trim star]

you can

toggle planter top right corner

[final sierra]

yea, just yesterday successfully placed 6 productions on first sub AIC

[trim star]

i only have 4 because i dont have the set of 3s

ill just copy the set of 7

[jovial breach]

the area is to the east of wuling city i forgot?

[trim star]

when i decide to rebuild

[crimson inlet]

Yep

[trim star]

indeed

[jovial breach]

damn

[uncut quest]

i remember in this patch reveal video there's a place to process the sewage, where is that on the map?

or is it an event for later?

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1494913411018915871/2026-04-17_21-11-57.mp4?ex=69e5a79b&is=69e4561b&hm=572e801c7cac2362aa958bb1815e1d5f39cfcd5417a28556668c8dab4a536ebd&

[crimson inlet]

Test Area coming 14th of May

[trim star]

yeah that's in test area

[final sierra]

you can? just change farm mode

[jovial breach]

wait for 2nd part of the patch yes

[uncut quest]

aww man

[nimble folio]

is this the proper output? it's red because i have placed a gearing unit

[uncut quest]

[hexed raft]

what new best thing to produce?

[trim star]

you should show hetonite prod instead of parts prob

but

looks fine

cause it's 5:1

you should be alternating between 4 and 5 hetonite parts

[finite anvil]

uhhhhhh

[trim star]

think the math checks out that it doesnt actually matter

drinks are equal efficiency

[outer patrol]

by hetonite is it the 22/m hetonite? not component or part

[trim star]

22.5 yes

[nimble folio]

this is the hetonite

[jovial breach]

looking good, if you want to be more optimal you can set up a purification unit to recycle all the inert xircon to make heavy xiranite that way you free up a xiranite forge

[trim star]

it's just that you need hetonite for stuff anyways

[outer patrol]

okie okie

[trim star]

i know i just did my conduit chain but i guess ill just delete it xd it seems that i have other plans now

[outer patrol]

a little bit of headache from the start trying to check how many machine is needed

[nimble folio]

okay thankss

[trim star]

ratios this update are like

[hexed raft]

i didn't mean that i just want to know if there anything in newest update that's better than sc battery and the drink/syringe

[torn yew]

so... I should've NOT remove my previous design...

[trim star]

cuprium soln:hetonite soln 4:1

sure

[jovial breach]

mfw when i found out you need 4 cupium for 1 heto

[trim star]

that's fine with me

[swift steppe]

Hetonite feels janky to produce at the moment

[trim star]

effluent:working effluent is 4:1

sure that's fine

hetonite parts 5:1

??????

[crimson inlet]

Gotta fix that input cutter. Heto recipes are 2+2 : 1, while older ones are 10+10 : 1, so they are 5x more efficient belt-speed wise

[trim star]

ok man random 5 in there nice one

[trim star]

it's 8

[outer patrol]

me right now like why its only half.. then i check it need 2 purified blood thingy for max efficiency..

[swift steppe]

I've got Hetonite parts running at "good enough", and letting passive prduction stockpile over time

[torn yew]

technically you need 8 for it to be optimized

[trim star]

the 4:1 ratio isnt incorrect it's just that you need two hetonite soln for one hetonite

so it's 8:1

[jovial breach]

4 for 1 heto fluid, need 2 fluid so 8 for 1 heto solid yeah

[outer patrol]

thats the part where i got surprise the 2 purified bloody thingy fluid

[finite anvil]

nah this is because i only have two cuprium inputs into the heto production

[trim star]

honestly

[finite anvil]

im too lazy dismantle my yazhen syringe production because all the sewage is linked to the xircon production

[trim star]

if you only care for comp yeah there's really no point to making a stockpile of hetonite parts

[outer patrol]

fck tha acid why cant connect to different area

[trim star]

it's just that they'll probably be used in buildings considering the towers already are

[outer patrol]

thats my problem too lol

[swift steppe]

That's exactly why I have Xircon production cuprium feeding into storage instead

[final sierra]

also if anyone need it
looks like 5177 is enough for current endgame factory, and here is scheme for 5177 energy:

[crimson inlet]

You can cover Outpost#1 with heto and SC

[trim star]

and i would not like to be down a tier if new production buildings take evil glowy red rock

also it lets me perform war.gif

[crimson inlet]

Without cheaping out on components as well

[trim star]

that is a very large positive

[subtle finch]

looks like its worth making the extra sc bat "a bit"
should only cost an extra 150w to make xircon
so it's a gain of around 200w

i just hate the idea of running expanded crucible at this really low efficiency

[finite anvil]

its possible if i loop back the sewage into the xircon production

[swift steppe]

I'll probably spin down my separated yazhen production to get more space for Hetonite output

[finite anvil]

but is the looping thing still bugged or not tho

[timid gate]

Chat, what ores we getting in test area? Any idea?

[trim star]

it's gonna be some weird thing where it clogs if your facilities face west and not otherwise

[trim star]

more red rock or riot

[finite anvil]

what the fuck

[crimson inlet]

From Region Development - we do not get any at all, but they may change that through an update later

[trim star]

rdl shouldnt be showing stuff in test area right

[finite anvil]

im not looping my acid because of the bug either

[trim star]

or is that cc

[timid gate]

I mean it's not released yet, so it wouldn't show up in regional development anyway

[finite anvil]

idk if its fixed or not

[crimson inlet]

Well, Marker Stone was “??? Zone” before the story

[swift steppe]

The pipes seem to take time to fill up, that might be messing with things?

[finite anvil]

just dont optimize your factory too much right now lul

[timid gate]

Yea but it was released, ie you could see the region from the map no?

[swift steppe]

You could see Tianshi blocking the path there

[trim star]

yeah from just running it over in my head it looks like a bad idea to loop back acid so that's like the primary reason im dropping the idea of trying to make acid work at main pac

[crimson inlet]

Yeah
Its just a bit strange from them to separate that bit as 2 entirely different patch versions

[trim star]

i dont want to mess with machine priority rn

[finite anvil]

if you have full 4 heto fluid inputs, the acid should be 1:1 and possible to be looped, but again, the weird ass offline bug

[swift steppe]

I think the combined production + travel time makes acid loop more janky

[jovial breach]

i mean you can make a priority flow for that acid and still be fine

[finite anvil]

same thing with the xircon, its technically okay to loop it, but go offline and everything just clogs for some reason

[trim star]

that's what im thinking as well but im running the full 4 u/s which is more than enough to full saturate the system already

[hexed raft]

what should i produce to get most money?

[uncut quest]

uwah that's a first, do i need to level up the development level?

[trim star]

i could do the priority loopback, im just not sure if the logic works identically

[swift steppe]

Too many buildings in the area.

[jovial breach]

sc battery + hetonite parts

[crimson inlet]

SC batteries, Heavy Xira, Hetonite Part

[subtle finch]

wdym, you can run endgame in under 4200w 😭

[finite anvil]

yall are so efficient with your shit lmao

[trim star]

im using 6240 power rn

with two whole turret arrays

[final sierra]

how ?

[trim star]

so

[timid gate]

Idk, but I'm making 12 batteries, 3 syringe A and 15 hetonite per min, I can make up to 3 xira component per min with no penalty, 3 cupprium component at the cost of 1.5 syringe drop, and up to 1.5 hetonite component per minute by fully using all produced hetonite

[hexed raft]

no syringe? and is there left over stuff?

[jovial breach]

4.2k sounds a bit too "tryhard" but yeah i can see it's possible

[trim star]

a bit of leftover ferrium

[timid gate]

Strange, I'm using like 4.9k of something

[trim star]

that's it

[finite anvil]

i havent even put down turrets on marker stone

[subtle finch]

i still haven't switched to expanded crucible with my sc battery production

[hexed raft]

that can be used for the bad drinks/syringes

[finite anvil]

my powers gonna jump to like 7k or some shit

[crimson inlet]

Syringe A is less efficient than converting Cuprium into Heto.
Syringe C can use a very tiny amount of Ferrium now, as we meta-transfer Dense Orig now

[trim star]

yeah but it's like 8.33/m ferrium which is like

[muted tartan]

is it possible to bring acids on main base?

[trim star]

probably chill to just leave it

[trim star]

yeah

nothing stopping you

[subtle finch]

the biggest power saving you can do this patch is replace 4 treatment unit with 1 purification unit and save those 4 inert effluent
then delete all your meds production, those costs a lot of power too

[muted tartan]

just pipe it all the way?

[final sierra]

yes, using bottles but I dont recomend to do that

[timid gate]

1 lc, 12 SC? Why don't you just go 12 lc

[trim star]

yep

pipe or conduit chain

[swift steppe]

I'm relatively sure SC Wuling Battery has better production speed with 5x Crucibles, because of sheer production volume.

[muted tartan]

i heard there is some conduit limit on area?

[subtle finch]

im using dense ori metastorage transfer

[trim star]

that's in the overall facility/pipe limit in general iirc

[hexed raft]

thats like .3 drinks? or like .4

[finite anvil]

so anyone here loop their sewage/acid?

[trim star]

you can pipe acid to main pac and have enough facility limit to do everything not related to making normal xiranite there

not sure about next patch

[finite anvil]

i wanna know if they fixed the bug

[jovial breach]

0.3 something lol, just dont bother with it

[jovial breach]

me

[trim star]

i think the safest bet is just to jumpstart one reactor and ONLY feed that one reactor

[jovial breach]

never had any issue

[trim star]

but from what ive seen converger should work fine

[final sierra]

already done, and also all drills replaced to water drills + all turrets on batteries but still 5k+

[swift steppe]

Looping acid felt like too much of a hassle in a thrown-together setup at new sub-PAC.

[true parrot]

ain't no way i'm this stupid 😭

[swift steppe]

The water mode is on by default tbf

[storm garnet]

that .25 xircon effluent from running an extra xircon line is killing me

[crimson inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1493941205589950495/1495219880780234853/PWMbad.gif

[trim star]

you'll need to do for refining units as well

[finite anvil]

what tech is this, im just thinking straight up connecting the pipes back into itself

[jovial breach]

with the new expanded reactor you dont even need to loop sewage

[crimson inlet]

Made it this patch so no, not ok

[trim star]

pipe convergers have higher throughput

that's the thing

[subtle finch]

same, i also have ziplines and sprinkers, check if you have surplus of planters-seeders
you also dont need those anymore if you stopped producing meds, and their pumps

[trim star]

that's also why it's so weird to me that ive seen it work

apparently it will just stuff the pumps out

[crimson inlet]

Hmm I might try the fluid test as well

[true parrot]

tysm

[finite anvil]

wait so how does that work, im thinking of just doing this

[final sierra]

Nah only needed + no meds production

[subtle finch]

4400w, no cap,
idk how yall at 5000w still

[valid gazelle]

Im at 6.595

[jovial breach]

in the first expanded reactor you make xiranite fluid and xircon fluid, in the 2nd reactor you make the same 2 formula but with the addition of ferrium to make xircon solid

[valid gazelle]

[frosty stirrup]

[valid gazelle]

I think the war crime cages take a lot of power

[storm garnet]

ugh, i had to make an old school xircon line without extended crucibles. yikes

[crystal sundial]

I cant seem to achieve 60unit/min xircon with four expanded, can i see the product flow?

[frosty stirrup]

Bro is sending electricity to all talos 2

[real crescent]

nice photo spot for the new subpac

[crimson inlet]

Making all comps simultaneously, 5k power

[subtle finch]

i wish the game have a facility breakdown

[valid gazelle]

This cage is like.. what.. 300 ?

So 300*3

[hushed blaze]

Facility breakdown like?

[trim star]

nvm

i think i know what's going on

[jovial breach]

@subtle finchdoes your reactor look like this, i think the belt speed is holding back the prod

[trim star]

they're feeding a pipe to a converger that's inbetween a reactor and another reactor

[real crescent]

im paying like over 500 energy just for my ziplines

[final sierra]

wait a second, why?

[trim star]

that is it'll prefer the pipe over reactor as intended when it ends up being full

[tawny shadow]

you don't use battery?
1 SC gives like 100k power for ur gun

[trim star]

that's why it stuffs out the pump

[trim star]

honestly lazy

[jovial breach]

that's normal, you have 1 free xiranite forge

[trim star]

im down with spending 20 power per turret and being able to turn them off at will

rather than

you know

[finite anvil]

as in putting in batteries into the turrets everytime it runs out???

[subtle finch]

that's expected, im using leftside
#aic-factory message

[trim star]

manually refilling in the middle of a farm segment

[tawny shadow]

I'm more lazy to set up the relays ngl

[trim star]

when im sending the alluvium 10 times

it's a lot better in wuling

just run a few buildings and done

[tawny shadow]

it gives 100k power
and 1 shot takes like 60?

[subtle finch]

im not even using expanded crucibles yet for my sc production

[trim star]

160

160 per shot for new towers

[tawny shadow]

oh 160

[trim star]

it's reasonable they can run out

just very slowly

[tawny shadow]

by the time your battery runs out

[subtle finch]

i plan to upgrade soon to save power

[trim star]

but when they do it will be annoying so

[tawny shadow]

1 year prolly passed

[trim star]

dont wanna bother smile

it's like much more convenient to just talk to the pylon "hey can you turn everything off thanks"

and then wow 0 power usage

[tawny shadow]

idk I feel like I've been using battery for 2 months on wuling and it's still at 40 something

[trim star]

i definitely think people are stressing power usage way too hard

it's like the issue in v4 where just the two high tier products was more than enough to overcap every outpost but people were still making more meds

[final sierra]

can you share that zipline pls (sent you a request)

[trim star]

sort of weird but stockpiling is fine at this stage I guess

[quartz pecan]

goodness gracious

[hushed blaze]

Why stress about power when you can just-

[trim star]

blessed

[tawny shadow]

it's for people who think aic is the main end game for this game

[trim star]

no real endgame content still

id expect them to drop one like latter half of this year prob

[real crescent]

1 sec, i can try, not sure if its shareable. its also probably gonna be a major pain to power

[crimson inlet]

Im still not getting why people try to optimize the power consumption, when all it gives you is making you to check the game more often due to faster rate of filling the depot

[trim star]

you dont need to power shared zips

[final sierra]

yes I am using that

[hushed blaze]

I might wanna bring a lot of bombs just to destroy mineral ores

[trim star]

maybe true

[crimson inlet]

CC coming soon(TM)

[trim star]

cuprium is gonna be in the next battery so if you save too hard on power it kills your entire factory

smile

[crimson inlet]

Ive enjoyed this patch modifications of SC
Looking forward to the event/test area

[final sierra]

dont worry power is not a problem, I just cant reach that spot :)

[reef dagger]

does anyone have a setup with surplus normal xiranite for xiranite comps?

[crimson inlet]

I do

[subtle finch]

I only have 23 ziplines + 10 sprinklers

[storm garnet]

add me too for the zipline pls thx 6779665874

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1495315919063482490/war.gif

[crimson inlet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495223209077768324
Feel free to ask any questions in case of issues

[real crescent]

oh lol. ye its super weird, the placement area of it doesnt match the actual terrain at all, similiar to what happened to the old pergola

[final sierra]

oh I have 109 ziplines :))))))))))

[real crescent]

added

[storm garnet]

accepted

[trim star]

making ziplines everywhere is so simple in wuling

[jovial breach]

do we know the % difference of the belt when offline vs online? @storm garnet@subtle finch

[cyan forge]

Am kinda confused at the current forge usage. How do u guys manage urs?

[trim star]

they just remove the pylon phoning next region

gg

[storm garnet]

not exactly i think, maybe like 1%

[subtle finch]

that's 430w more, plus i never use protocol stash ever lol
still, i think you can easily go under 5k

[true parrot]

guys how do i transfer materials from valley IV depot to wuling depot without being a literal packmule (i just need the keybind or button to open the menu again 😭)

[storm garnet]

control units seem to be worse i heard

[jovial breach]

yeah 1% sounds right

[tender thistle]

For the 1.25SC bat

We just use 1 expanded crucible and 1 purification unit, and crucible feeds sewage back to itself so we just need initial amount of sewage and then remove?

[cyan forge]

Just let the last 30/min pile up as unused xiranite?

[trim star]

simulation based on your current output iirc

so like

depends on what you got built?

prob?

[subtle finch]

honestly, its negligible by now, or there would be lots of complaints about it

[storm garnet]

i just try to get extra belts when possible so it's not an issue

[jovial breach]

i mean if it's 1% then i wont bother adding extra betl

[storm garnet]

it's easy to get, say, 2 belts from machine to machine instead of 1

the harder part is when you need extra unloaders and loaders

[subtle finch]

is this about using multiple output for xircon?

[jovial breach]

here you can see xircon build up

[mighty yacht]

I can't fit the last sandleaf farm,fml

[trim star]

oh on the crucible shenanigans

[storm garnet]

i have my xiranite lines optimized for offline bugs

[jovial breach]

prod is still normal

[subtle finch]

i did it to be safe, since it doesn't cost much effort

[storm garnet]

but everything else is mostly on 1 belt now

[marble yarrow]

havent seen offline bugs since the fix

[trim star]

idk i used to overfill a lot of my

machines

it's probably fine?

[subtle finch]

that was during crucible bug though, it's likely not relevant now

[strong quiver]

So if i understand correctly

[jovial breach]

no this is just belt bug

[crimson inlet]

7 regular Xira, 1 Heavy
180 Xira towards SC batteries x2 + Heavy (60+60+60)
30 excess to use on Xiranite+Cuprium comps

[jovial breach]

not crucible thing

[final sierra]

yea terrain changed in v1.2 🤣

[strong quiver]

The new acid line is a pain in the ass

[storm garnet]

if you do 15/min xircon, it should be mostly fine

just use 2 xiranite belts per crucible

[trim star]

i wonder if i saved my endgame blueprint

[storm garnet]

you can split 1 belt into multiple crucibles if you want, just get the equivalent of a bit more than 1 belt total per machine

[trim star]

nope i didnt

[strong quiver]

Since for the purification of the new red substance produce 1 acid
And the acid cannot be disposed of via the treatment machine

[subtle finch]

if you are consuming 480 originium flat, then that is weird indeed, dense ori should match the xircon output

[real crescent]

yeah, my route there is now kinda lame, but floating zipline at least is funny

[cyan forge]

Oh ok i think get it, thanks

[trim star]

endgame bp

[cursive river]

will this limit my heavy xiranite outpu to ABOUT 2 a minute?

[storm garnet]

my dense originium was working fine with 1 belt setup last patch somehow

[final sierra]

also now I cant delete 2 under water ziplines ... cuz they added death zone there ...

[storm garnet]

i think, since xircon was used exactly

[subtle finch]

heh, we have the same idea to make that comp production flat
try this, havent tested yet

[storm garnet]

dense ori count itself could go above what should be, but that doesn't matter if sc is supossedly working fine

[cursive river]

my eye hurt

[storm garnet]

idk, this game is weird

[trim star]

ok from my knowledge this should work right

[real crescent]

one is the waterwheel id guess? ye hopefully one day theyll add a way to destroy our own stuff via map

[final sierra]

yea

[subtle finch]

yes, i have the same bp

[storm garnet]

wait, how the fuck do i replace this zipline lol

[trim star]

gotcha

yeah a lot of people have been saying you feed it to the start

[crimson inlet]

If your max produced Heavy Xira is 6/m, wont a single splitter used as 1/3 be enough?

[trim star]

that did not make sense at all to me

this should force prio to the loop back so it shouldnt break

[mellow thicket]

is there like any way to make sure that red belt goes to red xircon belt and white does to itself too? white is taking every xircon in the production

[cursive river]

maybe.

[trim star]

red belt goes to red belt

no

[subtle finch]

wait, actually why is it like that

[trim star]

the game splits it however it feels like

[cursive river]

but i have reserves just in case so if i do that itll spit out 30/m anyways

[subtle finch]

that's for heto right?

[final sierra]

second one here

[trim star]

convergers prefer taking items from fast inputs (tickless, like conveyors/pipes) over machines (tick based, like splitters/convergers/producing)

thus, it will always fill from pipe despite being fully saturated

[subtle finch]

i dont mean that, i mean what are you making

[trim star]

oh

im just making an example

[tender thistle]

Can someone send me a screenshot of their setup to get xircon for the 1.25SC bat plsss

[trim star]

cause i routed acid to my main pac and was considering if i needed to get rid of the byproduct acid

a lot of people have been saying just to loop it back in and it wouldnt clog but i couldnt work that out in my head

it makes sense if that's what they meant and not to the beginning

[subtle finch]

just do this, trust
it took me lots of trial and error to not clog purification unit running at 75% eff

[jovial breach]

just make lc and save yourself the trouble

[static isle]

there's likely a third mining spot here sometime in the future right?

[trim star]

yeah see what you're doing there is looping it back into a converger between two reactors

which should

function as intended

[upper fiber]

you should try to get some extra xircon, by stealing them from the white belt or the packaging unit

[mellow thicket]

i did. it still messes up

[upper fiber]

you need some extra 30 xircon from how long your belts are

[subtle finch]

it's just basic math 1.5+2 can fit in 4
the bigger problem is the acid loopback priority

[static isle]

or if you're so uncertain then dump the leftovers and just use pass thru acid

[trim star]

yes which is solved because pipes > reactor passthrough

that's what im pointing out

[slim moat]

even if its divided 50/50 shouldn't you still be ok

[trim star]

no

because gradually the acid will be slowly filled up

you only use 1 unit, you're feeding it anywhere above 1 unit

once it hits max, then you slow everything down by the amount you're making extra

[subtle finch]

that's was my nuclear solution until i found the one in the pic
im a cheapskate when it comes to power, and 10w is 10 too many

[trim star]

if it splits 50/50

[tender thistle]

From haru tables if I make 1.25SC Bats then I don't need to make yazhen anymore

[jovial breach]

you never make yazhen in the first place

[static isle]

ye ik I was in your thread

[vapid dock]

do the lazy method and just build it at 100% efficiency, it'll load balance itself down to 75% and dump the acid atleast you wont need to make a new bp when they inevitably add more cuprium once the new area is unlocked

[jovial breach]

unless you need to use it for combat

[trim star]

you can see the priority forcing here

which is why i was so lost on what people were saying

[storm garnet]

fuck, i fucked up the zipline

[trim star]

i dont have the option of dumping the acid if im trying to do it at main pac unless i want to waste a bunch of extra time

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
i did it before patch i downsized, since i care about power

[trim star]

aka

i MUST figure out this priority issue or it will mess it up

which is what i did

[storm garnet]

it didn't let me put one in the same place, so i put it close, but now it says it's too close to terrain or some shit

[static isle]

I use your setup just with cuprium straight from depot and ending on parts because I make them all in main AIC to concentrate sewage there

[jovial breach]

hmm so you need 1 pump for 2 reactor, but you get 1 acid back so it's like 3 and a half pump, which is weird lol

[trim star]

yeah it's generally a good idea to just

refine cuprium elsewhere where you need the sewage

[subtle finch]

nice

[vapid dock]

I stopped caring about power when I realized even with 2 thermals at 100% you make excess amt of bills anyway

[trim star]

and then use just processed cuprium

in reactor

[ancient charm]

do you need enough materials in V4 if you want to meta transfer to wuling?

[storm garnet]

10 minutes trying just for this...

[static isle]

so just where your SC is

[trim star]

you end up needing to space out stuff by 2 tiles if you're refining on the spot

[static isle]

meta transfer doesn't use actual mats

[jovial breach]

no meta is free

[slim moat]

but less than 50% of your acid is coming from the recyclers, at most you'd just clog the pumps

[ancient charm]

is it just the first transfer that needs mats?

[real crescent]

oooooof. is that slightly to the side of the one i send?

[static isle]

no
it just generate them out of thin air

[storm garnet]

ok, i can receive again the shared zipline, i don't need to bother you again

[trim star]

no because the throughput of pipes is higher

[unreal laurel]

whats new max ore yield?

[ancient charm]

remind me how to set up meta transfer again?

[subtle finch]

hoarding mentality is the meta in this channel

[trim star]

i think he has it balanced out perfectly

[storm garnet]

the one you sent was in front of that relay

[trim star]

im forcing 2 units of acid through my reactors

[storm garnet]

but the same place appeared red when i tried

maybe the relay was too close

[ancient charm]

oh nvm

i found it

[unreal laurel]

luckily it worked cause i nearly ran out of xiranite but luckily i stored an extra 20k

[unreal laurel]

?

[storm garnet]

i'll try a pylon i guess

[trim star]

180 cuprium

no changes

[unreal laurel]

why tf is that a 20

[trim star]

this is so sad

[unreal laurel]

wait....

[trim star]

i need cuprium components actually

[unreal laurel]

nvm

[vapid dock]

yeah in the scenario where we have 240 cope you can feed 4 reactors the full 2/m acid and then feed the byproduct to the next 2 reactors so you'd only need 3 pumps instead of 4 for 100% eff hetoparts

[static isle]

what do yall use meta for these days
I just transfer bottles to fill with liquid xira/heavy xira

[ancient charm]

dense originium powder

[trim star]

dense originium dust seems to be optimal i cant find the reason why

[crimson inlet]

Coz its 2x more compared to raw ore

[trim star]

nothing is happening here

[vapid dock]

not that space for acid pumps is an issue

[ancient charm]

I think it has something to do with comps

[trim star]

you can tell i tacked this on

[crimson inlet]

Dense powder is 1500/h with the weight of 1
Most other denses are weight 2 so 750/h

[static isle]

you get 1500/hr which is what 5/6 lines?
can you make LC bats with them and the extra xira line left over?

[trim star]

it's the

25/m issue again

smile

im pretty confident it's just because you get a random 8.33/m ferrium

[crimson inlet]

Its 25/m of dense cubes so almost a full belt
Yeah, you can use it for whatever

[trim star]

so you just deplete it with the dense dust

[static isle]

same bs with the early days of ferrium

[ancient charm]

is it worth making LC batts or comps?

[slim moat]

but how would pipe throughput matter? Mergers would still source evenly unless one source is empty in a same priority situation

[trim star]

i am throwing the full 2u/s acid in

it will fill every single reactor

thus if i were to split an input into it, if it split evenly, it would be impossible to add more than half its throughput into the system, as it's... full

i need to add all 100% of the loopback into the system or it will slow down

[static isle]

hmm
maybe worth it to transfer V4 batteries to Wuling to use as secondary PWM fuel
so you have more LC bats to sell?

[trim star]

in the other case you get the extra 1.5 which is fine to just

[storm garnet]

i need to borrow a foundation from satisfactory real quick

[trim star]

balance out elsewhere

which is totally fine

[static isle]

most of us are at ~4.5k power I think

[crimson inlet]

Depends
If you want to fill your depot faster with mats that you cant sell - make no Comps
You can cover all Bills with Comps produced as well so no need to try optimizing that

[trim star]

continue

[static isle]

how are u using that much power

[trim star]

power

there's a bunch of excess things i dont need

[ancient charm]

so I should just make some xiranite and cuprium comps

[crimson inlet]

Or all 3 if you want, yeah

[trim star]

plus all of my designs are for simplicity

so i end to have a row of extra stuff

[static isle]

I'm at 4.2k exactly with 12 SC + 6 heavy xira + 4.5 heronite parts

[trim star]

then i have two turret arrays

[ancient charm]

Is it possible to use ferrium bottles to transfer xircon effluent

[trim star]

which is what 600 power i think

[trim star]

you can bottle any liquid

[quasi locust]

not sure if anyone has done it, i think it should be possible to make a forge switch between producing xiranite and heavy xiranite by controlling water. this is a demo when planter stops planting and xiranite unjams

[trim star]

omg blessed jincao gate

[subtle finch]

just turn the protocol stash on and off?

[unreal laurel]

do i grind all my cuprium into powder?

[crimson inlet]

Manual labour at automated factory gameplay…

[quasi locust]

it's a model

[unreal laurel]

?

[quasi locust]

but yeah that works too

[trim star]

ie you have a planter being fed with water that's making the jincao gate

when it stops getting water it'll send xiranite down

[brisk wasp]

what's currently the highest achievable production rate for hetonite?

[trim star]

idk how you're gonna control the number of jincao but

cool

[trim star]

22.5

[crimson inlet]

Unless you make Cuprium Components - yes, grind it all

[unreal laurel]

whatever 180 cuprium gets you

[subtle finch]

where is the part exactly that makes it fully automated

[trim star]

listen they call it an automated industrial complex right

but if you manually place all of the items down

is it really automated

[brisk wasp]

so i guess i'm well within that number

[unreal laurel]

so i grind it all and hope micro jams allow me to accumulate cuprium for components

[crimson inlet]

Nope, it will consume all. You have to cut it away before grinding if you want to make components

[trim star]

i dont like turning my raw materials into intermediates if it isnt like

[crimson inlet]

Heto line can eat up to 240 cuprium, so it wont jam with it

[trim star]

already needed elsewhere

cause then what's the point if i could just add that intermediate step elsewhere

when i pull it out

that's sort of the case with cuprium rn i need to refine it so i can get the sewage but i dont need to powder it so i just dont

what if you want it for components or parts

then you get to pull it out and use it

[crimson inlet]

Yep, exactly

I only refine it in SC for sewage only too

[trim star]

im at like 6k cuprium components and 400 parts i do want to make a few more

the hetonite stuff... i need gear...

[storm garnet]

i guess this one works, but...

[trim star]

probably dont need that many pieces thankfully you can just artifice with like green stuff but like

there are gloves you can only artifice with a cuprium equivalent for example

and in that case i really need more cuprium components as opposed to hetonite ones

i might just swap to 1.5 soon

[static isle]

holy space optimization

[subtle finch]

@static isle oopsy, someone forgot to turn of their modsy

[sterile stratus]

...

[solid raven]

how to deal with the acid from the purification unit ?

[static isle]

feed back or discard
your choice

[subtle finch]

hi bubble

[atomic fiber]

HOW SHITTY IS MY FACTORY

[solid raven]

how to discard?

[static isle]

whatever works works

[trim star]

i like using two sides of a depot bus or routing pipes over depot buses or like stuff like that

it looks cool

[static isle]

pump them back into the pool

[solid raven]

ok thanks

[crimson inlet]

You can cut the heto like such
Still makes enough bills

[trim star]

yeah i swapped from a 1/4 split yesterday

[sterile stratus]

lol

[trim star]

i dont really care rn

i just want

spare cuprium

nothing to do with hetonite

[crimson inlet]

Its 2362,5 comps/week so almost a half of weekly requirement

[sterile stratus]

oh hi lol i didn't notice

[frosty stirrup]

How many gearing units I need to not gloc my hetonite parts production

[rocky niche]

what's the max raw sources yield for 1.2 now? and what are the recommended stuffs to produce in wuling?

[final sierra]

but what?
(you can build a platform there and standing on corner + first person cam gives you this)

[trim star]

180 cuprium

no changes elsewhere

[sterile stratus]

500 copium

[rocky niche]

how are those floating

[trim star]

building is weird

[sterile stratus]

yk i can see their bottom

[trim star]

they do that

[sterile stratus]

circles

[storm garnet]

are those protocol stashes?

[sterile stratus]

they look circle

[storm garnet]

and tbh, i prefer a direct screenshot instead of using the camera mode

[final sierra]

there was flat surface before ver 1.2 and hitboxes still thinks that there are pixels where you can place

[wispy wren]

Why's there a limit on piping in the new region

[trim star]

they hate you

[unreal laurel]

am i getting close to done

[unreal laurel]

theres a limit?

[trim star]

yeah

[unreal laurel]

yeah to q1 or q2

[wispy wren]

Is there any aspect of this godforsaken game that doesn't kill ky enjoyment every waking second?

[outer viper]

wut should i do with the spare 30/min xira ?
maybe meta ori powder over to get some more batt ?

[trim star]

there's a pipe limit

logistic devices 128

[small creek]

whats the new best turret combo for alluvium, do we just spam 500 mortars now

[final sierra]

also relay tower was placed there in ver 1.1 but cant be placed there now

[trim star]

as for how close you are to done idk you're done when you finish

words of wisdom

[wispy wren]

Factory?
Restrictions
Exploration?
Restriction
Operators?
Bums

Give me SOME FORM OF FREEDOM

https://tenor.com/view/freak-tweak-tweaker-tweaking-freak-out-gif-16108345590627731463

[final sierra]

yes

[trim star]

fangyi sucks for the new boss which is super funny cause it's her region and she's literally the boss mechanic

[sterile stratus]

imagine factory limit increases when you get p5 zf

[wispy wren]

Wdym i trimmed her with fangyi already

Without mastery even

[trim star]

yeah but she still sucks for the boss

[sterile stratus]

really

[wispy wren]

[trim star]

teleports too hard

it's hard to stack

[unreal laurel]

do i need all the sewage?

[sterile stratus]

oh

[wispy wren]

Okay yeah that's fair, she moves around and wastes time

[trim star]

not that she cant one cycle both phases

but

[unreal laurel]

im only seeing a usage of like 1/sec

[trim star]

phys team has a much better time doing it for example

[sterile stratus]

physical supremacy

[slim moat]

afaik we have way more surpluse sewage now

its not as rough as last patch

[trim star]

i swapped to phys team got the logic down and got like a 150s clear buffless first try xd

[sterile stratus]

i wish

[unreal laurel]

i feel like im only using 60

[sterile stratus]

i still don't have gv for endmin 🥀

[unreal laurel]

that cant be right?

[trim star]

grand vision is never showing up in shop again

[unreal laurel]

can it?

[trim star]

smile

[sterile stratus]

you can just treatment em

[trim star]

yeah you shouldnt be using that much sewage

just enough to make all the effluent you need

then dump all the rest

[sterile stratus]

gotta pull more 🥀

[trim star]

my weapon rng has been atrocious

like i think i went some 70 dry for any 6* weapon and ive never hit rate up

my gacha has been very similar

[candid wadi]

my factory output indeed because of excess cuprium powder, dense originium, ferrium powder and xiranite.

[trim star]

which is bad because i really need tangtang's gun

[sterile stratus]

mhm ok

i can care less until i have gv

[unreal laurel]

am i only using 60 sewage?

[trim star]

my phys team cycle is so chill

bless endmin

[unreal laurel]

my xircon loop for 2 SC seems to only need 30 each

[sterile stratus]

yeah

that should make sense

[unreal laurel]

what do i do with the rest

[sterile stratus]

treatment bro

[unreal laurel]

can i practice pollution instead

[sterile stratus]

..

go on

[unreal laurel]

im fed up with pipes

pipes are so painful

[trim star]

truth nuke

can they let us just dump liquids

[marble yarrow]

test area pls

[trim star]

into like inf clean water

not inf clean water you can do that

uhh

idk lol

[sterile stratus]

lol

[trim star]

that one bug where every single liquid in the game was replaced with a singular liquid texture

except it's acid this time

[sterile stratus]

stop testing, real area pls

[trim star]

like im just saying

this is some suspicious clean water right here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1494913411018915871/2026-04-17_21-11-57.mp4?ex=69e5a79b&is=69e4561b&hm=572e801c7cac2362aa958bb1815e1d5f39cfcd5417a28556668c8dab4a536ebd&

[marble yarrow]

VEGETABLE OIL

[valid gazelle]

I'm thinking about that now ngl

[slim moat]

damn, all cryston as well

[rocky niche]

clean water promoted by corporations

[shut hearth]

is friendship with yazhen A over? we go all in on hetonite?

[trim star]

indeed

[rocky niche]

need crude oil

[valid gazelle]

Ye maybe i should give my cannons battery and have them be independent from the power grid

[finite anvil]

apparently it doesnt matter, as long as you use up all your cuprium

you'll overcap stock bills anyways

[valid gazelle]

Qingbo stole from Wuling just to find out they are equally broke

[modest yarrow]

unplayable

[grave veldt]

Wait, you telling ALL THAT is only 15/m hetonite?

[sterile stratus]

eos soon game quality is so bad

[valid gazelle]

That reminds me.. i have a pump that elevated itself

[storm garnet]

i guess this is a good place

[sterile stratus]

better than mine

[trim star]

yeah

[storm garnet]

still can nail the og zipline, but the other zipline works at least

[trim star]

4 inputs

8:1

15/m hetonite

now to make parts they're 5:1

so you get 3 parts per minute

have fun

[valid gazelle]

Add in 2:1

You are getting 1.5 components per minute

[trim star]

1.5 components

yep

[grave veldt]

Man it will take forever to make wisadel cannons all over the place

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1495315919063482490/war.gif

[finite anvil]

lmfao i havent even put turrets for the marker stone alluv

[trim star]

this clip is so funny the guy just runs up and tries to hit me

[rocky niche]

those looks like cannon launchers

[trim star]

and his entire gang gets nuked

[valid gazelle]

Pov: you brought clubs and maces to an artillery strike

[storm garnet]

alternative

[trim star]

my wuling city is full afk

i could do mortar based full afk setups but i think they are a bit slow

[rocky niche]

oh right, this. 👆

[trim star]

and their kb is like

super annoying to work with

[valid gazelle]

I still like the flamethrowers

Those are so satisfying to use

[trim star]

yeah the armor fraggers are really good

if deluge tower was one unit wider i wouldnt be so annoyed

personally

[rocky niche]

pov: when primitive warriors got isekai-ed to modern artillery warfare

[trim star]

but deluge towers are still my favorite thing

[valid gazelle]

Isnt it the other way around ? We are basically jsdf

[ancient charm]

what is the optimal wuling output right now?

[valid gazelle]

[trim star]

at least 2

[storm garnet]

you can do the same as 1.1 but 50% more cuprium if you want

then figure out the new stuff slowly

[trim star]

the outpost efficiency is identical btw

[finite anvil]

when are they giving us more forges? literally the next patch?

[trim star]

maybe

[storm garnet]

maybe mid patch

[marble yarrow]

May 14th

[trim star]

second half probably will have at least 2 more forges

[finite anvil]

they said they'll give us 12 forges i think

[ancient charm]

I can't figure out if this is optimal, I'm trying to figure out if its better to produce LC batt or xir/cup comps

[finite anvil]

in the livestream

[valid gazelle]

They said 12 so

[trim star]

idk if test area is it

if it is it then yeah 12 it is

[knotty vine]

someone sent this here earlier

[trim star]

i didnt watch the

[valid gazelle]

But 2 sub pacs in 1 update ?

[trim star]

devlogs or anything

im tweak

[valid gazelle]

Demn ~

[trim star]

conclusion; just like last patch no matter what you do you're overcapping

[ancient charm]

do yall make het comps?

[atomic fiber]

did i calculate stuff right, but making syringe A and C give more stock bill than hetonite comps?

[marble yarrow]

yeah partially. i distribute hetonite into

1. storage
2. parts
3. comps

[trim star]

you cant just

sell the glowy red rock

which is weird

[storm garnet]

i'm using the extra sc option, though since i have stockpile of materials it's using 98 ferrium

[marble yarrow]

basically all same

[frosty moon]

how many water pump do i need to power up 3 forge of the sky?

[unreal laurel]

so the frame for my double SC is done

[rocky niche]

where?

[trim star]

1.5 for just the forge, 3 for the planters as well

[unreal laurel]

any suggestions on what to do with the dead space?

[trim star]

make the endgame blueprint

[atomic fiber]

damn...

[unreal laurel]

my corners still got room

[sterile stratus]

planters

[valid gazelle]

Im not sure about the 2 sub PACs but im sure we are getting 12 forges in total according to their tweet. And fitting 12 forges and all of the productions would be challenging

[unreal laurel]

i already finished placing planteds

[trim star]

endgame bp 4

as opposed to endgame bp 1 2 and 3

[valid gazelle]

Not impossible but challenging indeed

[trim star]

i was just drawing with depot buses with my white space last patch

[sterile stratus]

then draw stuff with logistic things

[trim star]

you can make a lot of bps very easily completely unplaceable

[storm garnet]

fill depot with random items

[trim star]

manifest some extra cuprium idk

bottle every fluid

[storm garnet]

don't fill it too much with permanent things since you need even more space a bit later

[rocky niche]

my sky king flats could fit 4 forge of sky. idk where else to fit the other 8 if total is 12. i might try to squeeze in 2 more in sky king flats

[trim star]

you can get 7 in sub aic

4 more is sleep

[valid gazelle]

I can do 6 but.. i have all 8 in my main pac

[trim star]

at that point it's likely better to just put them as part of your setup

[storm garnet]

i have 5 in main aic and they use a ton of space cause of offline bug avoidance

[rocky niche]

why

[trim star]

i havent bothered changing my setup lol

Ive just been using my 31x24

[storm garnet]

2 in sub pac and it uses more than half the space

[trim star]

why not

[atomic fiber]

anyone have new map zipline?

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1494951389712093354/ENDFIELD_SHARE_1770612143.png?ex=69e5cafa&is=69e4797a&hm=ce53dc2d63ae2c52f1c2bf1da5863579c3506765441d62cc15671d665c6e67ff&

oh no wonder i had to make extra depot unloaders at some point

when i was messing around i used like 200

lol

[rocky niche]

wait, is heavy xiranite gonna need 2 forge of sky?

i havent finished updatin the game

[trim star]

technically 3

[rocky niche]

so i'm askin while waiting

[trim star]

2 to make the xirsnite

one to make the heavy thing

[rocky niche]

eh?

[trim star]

heavy xiranite is 2 xiranite + effluent

in a forge

[storm garnet]

current normal setup is 7 xiranite 1 heavy xiranite

you can change it to 6-2 if you have a lot of normal xiranite

[sterile stratus]

what should i do with 30 xir

[trim star]

uhhh

good question

[storm garnet]

but it burns xiranite and you need to change it back

[trim star]

make 50 billion extra xiranite pylons and stuff

[storm garnet]

better just use the 7th xiranite for extra xircon

or at least lc batteries

[trim star]

yea

[tawny shadow]

turn it into liq
drink it
add some sewage for stronger taste

[rocky niche]

what is the current max raw material yield for wuling?

[trim star]

fill the underground area with liquid xiranite

[sterile stratus]

it tastes like grass smh

[crimson inlet]

480 orig
180 cuprium
90 ferrium

[sterile stratus]

90 ferrium

[tawny shadow]

that's why you should add sewage
it adds some spiciness

[sterile stratus]

nah add acid

[tawny shadow]

well you prolly still need xiranite gears to artifice

or cuprium

[sterile stratus]

yeah

i have 38k components now so i'm good for now

[ancient charm]

so this should get me to finish trading all the stock bills asap then I can convert to doing sustainable while making comps?

[crimson inlet]

Yep, this is fine

[worldly holly]

should i change to use lc and sell sc instead of using sc and sell lc

[hexed raft]

this wuling max?

[worldly holly]

nope

[ancient charm]

cuprium is up to 180

[crimson inlet]

Regional Dev Level 10 should make it 180 Cuprium

[hexed raft]

oh ill check if i missed one

[fierce lily]

anyone here who could share me a factory for the latest endgame? Would be cool cause i'm kinda lost on how i could have all the essential items i need

[ancient charm]

#1461542035617091681 its all there

[crimson inlet]

Feel free to use mine, covers all comps

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495223209077768324

[fierce lily]

[frail trail]

how much does hetonite part sells for? (if they can even be sold)

[undone current]

48

[storm garnet]

you might have that number if your region lvl is low

[subtle finch]

new chen reaction

[upper fiber]

still need 40pulls for zhuang.... i'll just skip, don't think i can get that much in 1 month

[hoary crag]

she caught you cheating on perlica with leek

[subtle finch]

gomen perlica 😭

[hoary crag]

nothing still beats gatherables showing up in cutscenes

[sacred phoenix]

How is the two connected pipe producing sewage on top producing less than the one in the bottom? I just dont get it. Both should be producing 1/sec but my other factory with same blueprint is getting deprived of sewage water from the top conduit...

[unreal laurel]

the purifier makes 0.5water per second right?

[sacred phoenix]

what's a purifier?

[unreal laurel]

so purifier+pump=3 refiners?

[unreal laurel]

the thing that cleans the effluent

[hoary crag]

based off pipes, both conduits should deliver 1/s of sewage.

if there'd be any issues it's likely due to the refineries themselves

did you check the water input for the top refineries?

[sacred phoenix]

I did. It's producing enough water.

[hoary crag]

can I see the destination?

[ornate sorrel]

do we produce more heavy xira than the second outpost uses up atm?

[wheat forum]

Conduits transport 2/s of fluid and 4/s if it’s a manifold variant

[ornate sorrel]

at lvl2

[storm garnet]

remember: never loop back. always void.

[hoary crag]

yeah ik, but the 1/s is based off their production

[sacred phoenix]

The yazhen farm goes here. Top inlet from yazhen farm is connected on the left outlet,
Then bottom inlet connects to the right outlet.

As you can see the right one is not getting deprived of sewage water even though Im splitting it to two water traetment unit. But the left one is getting deprived.

[storm garnet]

(xircon sewage is fine since it doesn't need to leave the machine)

[ornate sorrel]

suddenly decided i should start hoarding sewage 💀

[frail trail]

wth is this thing 👀

[unreal laurel]

im running out of ideas

[sacred phoenix]

I use it in here. The right one is running fine without running out of sewage. But the left one is reaching 0 sewage water...

[crimson inlet]

No, its not enough alone

[ornate sorrel]

so what then?\

[wraith storm]

does anyone have blueprint for lc wuling battery

[unreal laurel]

what small scale processing fits into this

[crimson inlet]

It will be 9720bills/h out of 10080

[sacred phoenix]

The right one is connected to the one with two water treatment

[ornate sorrel]

how do i cover the rest then?

[storm garnet]

used with spray drone

[unreal laurel]

any ideas yall?

[frail trail]

oh

[crimson inlet]

Heavy + SC bats will be enough. You sell Heto parts at #1 to free some bats

[unreal laurel]

Yooo

[frail trail]

just upgraded liquid xiranite for cleansing?

[unreal laurel]

can you help me out

[frail trail]

kinda useless no?

[storm garnet]

it's needed for some places

[frail trail]

im doing factory math rn

[storm garnet]

and it will be needed in the future for the factory, prob hc batteries

[unreal laurel]

im doing factory design en

[hoary crag]

hmm that's really weird. both of their conduit outlets are showing 2/s

[ornate sorrel]

dont you still need heto parts for heto components though? can i get by with 50/50 heto part and heto comp?

[storm garnet]

don't count liquid xiranite lines on the math, it should be a temporary thing for filling a few bottles only

[unreal laurel]

thats so space inefficient.....

[storm garnet]

just like liquid xiranite in 1.0

[frail trail]

maybe we will get dense cuprium powder for wuling hc

[unreal laurel]

pls help me out

[frail trail]

what do you need

[unreal laurel]

my brain is filled with nothing but pipe ptsd

[sacred phoenix]

It's cleaner to look at though...

[crimson inlet]

Id recommend a more precise fraction:

((4,5 - 0,75 x 0,125) - 30 / 64) x 48 x 60 = 11 340 B/h
Hetonite Parts

(12 - 3) x 54 x 60 = 29 160 B/h
SC Wuling battery

(6 - 30 / 64) x 27 x 60 = 8 960,625 B/h
Heavy Xiranite

These include fractions going towards Components (all 3 types)

[sacred phoenix]

I was trying to create a buffer of sewage water so I can use it for other.

[storm garnet]

originium will always be needed for batteries cause they are the energy rocks, but they might get mixed somehow

[sacred phoenix]

But then it's the behaviour of the inlet to outlet is weird..

[sacred phoenix]

Yeah... I'm really not sure why this is happening.

[unreal laurel]

ive currently crammed:
2SC,3 Cuprium,2 xircon into a square

what can fit into the final corner

[bitter blade]

So you can get acid into wuling so use this if you want

[sacred phoenix]

Look. Like the left one is visually delivering the water slow, but the right one isn't.

[frail trail]

probably your heal C in that space

[gusty abyss]

is expanded crucible needs to run 2 different reactions to be useful? i tried running 2 but the same reactions and it didnt seem to double the output

[storm garnet]

1 of each food

[unreal laurel]

we still make heal C?

[crimson inlet]

Yes

[crimson inlet]

It does not make the same formula twice

[ruby sorrel]

wait I just realised I didn't leave room for another 4 forges.... mid patch going to be fun now

[ornate sorrel]

so tl;dr? keep producing meds, or stop em altogether?

[storm garnet]

4 food needs 4 filling, 4 packager and 1 or 2 reactors

[frail trail]

that's from haruna?

[unreal laurel]

yes

[crimson inlet]

Stop
Heto is more cost effective

[ornate sorrel]

im doing 4 heto 2 meds for my cuprium

[unreal laurel]

is it outdated?

is cuprium just copper?

[ornate sorrel]

damn, guess i'll hoard some before cutting it off then

[gusty abyss]

wow that sucks, thanks for the answer tho

[small creek]

mortars are awesome

[storm garnet]

cuprium is copium, devs confirmed it on the 1.1 stream

[copper lily]

How? My power usage is 5k so minimum battery i should use is 3. How much power do you need?

[marble yarrow]

BRO THE MINI-BOSSES DIE ON SPAWN

[ruby sorrel]

what's heto power consumption vs medA though

[small creek]

All mortars had some downtime
Putting in some flamethrowers covered it
Now i clear in 50s

[hoary crag]

they are

[unreal laurel]

what do i do with the 0.5 water from purifier?

is it useless?

[crystal sundial]

this will stabilize no?

[small creek]

Pretty much yeah

[hoary crag]

I actually removed the reactors afterwards cuz I realized they're not really needed at all

[unreal laurel]

answering me?

[frail trail]

ok wtf those hetonite parts gives you way too much money

[slim moat]

if its convinent you could use it I guess but generally no

[graceful otter]

How do you guys handle sewage from extended reactor for Xircon? Do you make water treatment? or its gonna drain all sewage? or there is no need to do it?

[wispy grove]

[small creek]

fr just stand somewhere far and they die right there

[hoary crag]

you only feed it 0.25/s of sewage and it'll fully sustain itself

[wispy grove]

should i say profit or cost?

[copper lily]

Damn

[outer viper]

huhhhhh ?
i thought heton part is more profitable

[crimson inlet]

Heto part is 240 cuprium per 6/min

[graceful otter]

so... i need to split? or chain feed?

[copper lily]

It's slow

[wispy grove]

oh

w8 lemme change

[crimson inlet]

Also only 30 ferrium too

[ruby sorrel]

you gotta combine the meds too

[hoary crag]

this is mine for reference

just one copium refinery can feed both xircon extended reactors

[wispy grove]

[graceful otter]

guess ill split then

[small creek]

bro do 180 vs 180

why 120 vs 240

its not fair

[pulsar cypress]

Med A + med C coz heto use both.

[wispy grove]

geez

[frail trail]

nvm the purification unit messed up my math

[small creek]

Yep im hard to please

[upper fiber]

why are you guys half feeding ferrium powder to 2?

[hoary crag]

it do be like that

[pulsar cypress]

Med A x2 + med C /4?

[pulsar steeple]

how many cuprium you get max anyway?

[frail trail]

240 cuprium + 30 ferrium / 6 heto part

[wispy grove]

[hoary crag]

using a 2 reactor xircon line forces you to have both reactors produce xircon at half efficiency

[storm garnet]

240 cuprium with all high purity, but 180 for now

[hoary crag]

this causes you to half feed the ferrium powder into both reactors instead of just one

[wispy grove]

the profit doesnt change even if you do fractional

[marble yarrow]

whats the formula for last column

[small creek]

now do 30 ferrium cus thats all we have left after 12/min SC batt

[upper fiber]

i see, i just use 1 for xircon and 1 for xircon eff

[frail trail]

they are exactly the same no ?

[wispy grove]

uhh no? thats not how fractional works?

[marble yarrow]

hetonite should be 1.2

[small creek]

we dont even have 120 ferrium to spare

what is the point

[wispy grove]

oke w8

[hoary crag]

reason why you need both producing xircon instead of a dedicated one is because, if you fully dedicate one, you'd have to produce all liquid xiranite into the first reactor, which obv isn't possible since they can't overclock

[marble yarrow]

hetonite has more value per cuprium used

[pulsar cypress]

Divide the ferrium to 22.5 then + with med A, to compare with heto.
XD

[ruby sorrel]

no you do it like this

[wispy grove]

[wispy grove]

why med a?

[hoary crag]

wait how much copium are we even getting?

[hollow stone]

how does the most efficient yazhen (whatever best carbon plant in wulig) farm looks like?
i am to lazy to optymize mine\

[ruby sorrel]

198+18=216 clearly

[small creek]

that crazy