aic-factory

[static isle]

if they don't then it starts clogging again

[chrome shell]

Wha how do you get enough Cuprium for 8 unloaders

[unreal laurel]

im making an insane amount of cuprium without worrying about polution

[quasi locust]

this is my setup, i merge the water from purifier to reactor. it clears just fine

[unreal laurel]

i dont,but i need parts fast

[chrome shell]

Oh 😅

[unreal laurel]

its a simple solution,when the machines clog,i just replace the machine

POLUTION

[void owl]

I really wish there were wireless conduit connections

[tough berry]

dang how you reach 4

.5kk

[unreal laurel]

what do yall think of my pollution design?

[void owl]

This games needs an engineeing PhD just to play

[chrome shell]

Nice staircase

[unreal laurel]

imagine the nxt region

2k cuprium parts should be enough right?

[tough berry]

wish next region not full of water

[quasi locust]

yeah they don't. it's more on preventing purifier from clogging while plant still runs 100%

[unreal laurel]

next is air

[void owl]

Nope, make a copium parts factory

[fast sapphire]

Some NA code for a 3min Yazhen Syringe A ? cnat find

[chrome shell]

What if the next region has gas pipelines and clogging makes your facilities explode

[tough berry]

that be hellish

[void owl]

3 min per stinge or 3 syring per min?

[static isle]

yes but if the sprinklers clog then it clogs backward

[tough berry]

need to redo factory daily

[void owl]

Also why not just use 6 min

[quasi locust]

it doesn't reach 4 inert, this purifier is there to recover 1/4 of xira line

[fast sapphire]

3 syring /min

[fast sapphire]

not enough redstone

I think

[vapid dock]

Next region now spawns mobs around your factory that you need to defend w turrets

[unreal laurel]

this is great

[tough berry]

this one is 3 on left

[unreal laurel]

all i need to do is dump my waste in the river every min

and i get 2k cuprium parts in minutes

u should have enough soon

[fast sapphire]

Do you have the code?

[tough berry]

sad nope its asia just try follow the design flow

[static isle]

holy mother of space optimization
12 SC + 180 cuprium + 6 heavy xira + power on main
180 xira on jingyu
4.5 heronite on marker

[fast sapphire]

Sadge, thanks tho I'll copy

[unreal laurel]

all hail pollution

[tough berry]

i feel like looking at that pic first thing i think we in valley only looking closer its wuling

[tawdry ice]

welp the mortar is broken as all hell

[unreal laurel]

its saves so much time not caring about pollution

[tawdry ice]

essence farming too ez

[pulsar cypress]

U can use 6/min bp.
Just deleted 2 copium supply.
Leaving 1 for part & 1 for bottle only.

[void owl]

Anyone has a 12 min sc batt bp?

[unreal laurel]

work in progress

gimme a bit more time

[pulsar cypress]

*just use 2 6/m bp..

[unreal laurel]

how will you even copy it?

[void owl]

Too big to fit

[unreal laurel]

bp's dont even get that big

[void owl]

You can give me two bps and tell me how to connect them

[unreal laurel]

the originium alone is too big

[pulsar cypress]

12/m will be equal to 2 6/m anyway.

[storm junco]

Can someone show me the math of double inlet?

[pulsar cypress]

Coz the resources needed equal.

[void owl]

Oh shit

I foegot im running out of xiranite

Ahhhh

[rapid hedge]

99.75% more progress to full

[void owl]

Just conduit a pump

[tough berry]

120 / 2 its 60 per pipe

just like regular oke but better for saving space on utility

[slim moat]

how much sewage surplus do we have now compared to last patch

[storm junco]

Per one pump?

[tough berry]

yup 60 per one pump if you do 2 pump its 120

[storm junco]

What if i hook double inlet to purification device?

[tawdry ice]

can we pollute with piss water is this in a random body of water

[tough berry]

wont work

its only has 1 hole

[tawdry ice]

someone told me i couldnt piss-ify wuling

[unreal laurel]

youre gonna need more than 2

[tough berry]

cant mux 2 type

[storm junco]

I see

[rapid hedge]

you have to empty the lakes first

[tawdry ice]

W thats my next goal

[rapid hedge]

that 1/40000 shows that it's possible

[void owl]

I wish there was a “mirriro bp” button

[tawdry ice]

wuling citizens will love me

[slim moat]

cant you just run a conduit

[pulsar willow]

yes

[rapid hedge]

later when I feel like filling it

[void owl]

Is there was a mirror bp button just put the left and the middle into 2 bp and i just paset it

[rapid hedge]

I was just testing with bottles

[void owl]

Yes as in there is or yas in i wish

[tough berry]

sigh wish next month come soon the power waisted in sewage cleaning is alot

[pulsar willow]

sadly we can't mirror directional buildings that work with liquids

[void owl]

Whats up with wasting power?

[pulsar willow]

that would have been VERY nice

[slim moat]

miroring would be so strong

[sterile stratus]

this

why i find it so hard making stuff symmetric

[unreal laurel]

unfortunately not

[sterile stratus]

unmeasurable disappointment

[pulsar willow]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-hercules-gif-22417674

[tough berry]

each cleaner of sewage cost 50 if the next month update comes we can just inlet outlet to that location so we use 0 power minmax of 6 heavy 12 bat 9 new pot 3 old potion use 4 cleaner thats 200 power waisted

[sterile stratus]

mhm

waist

[rain schooner]

bro this game is so fucked.....the data across regions is not even the same

[dull shard]

what makes more money, selling hetonite part or giving the 2 lines to a 3 yield yazhen

[unreal laurel]

whats the strat for reactor plus?

[void owl]

AHHH WHY DO I HAVE TO REBUILD MY FACTOEY EVERY MONTH

[rain schooner]

the yields/usages are always off when you move to a diff region.....bru fix your game dude

[crimson inlet]

Hetonite makes more

[dull shard]

okay. so just abandon yazhen

[sterile stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-surprised-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-24182893

[unreal laurel]

surely it cant be xircon cause it uses twice what it yields?

[tough berry]

for me i go yanzhen since hetonite you can only make 2 or 3 while you can make 9 potion

[sterile stratus]

bro betrayed yazhen

[dull shard]

mathematically what makes more? in actual yields

[void owl]

Hetonite makes parts

[sterile stratus]

equal

[void owl]

Them just sell the reaming heavy xir

[dull shard]

oh actually just equal?

[sterile stratus]

yeah

[crimson inlet]

4.5/m hetonite parts is more Bills than 3/m heto + 3/m syringe

[sterile stratus]

mhm?

[dull shard]

I'm also currently making heteo components [maybe up to 5-10k idk]

[tough berry]

is those heto more power saving? than potion?

[slim moat]

afaik the trade off between the two is power vs money per resourcd

[unreal laurel]

so i need to run 4 xircon formulas?

[crimson inlet]

Well, its the case for when you make comps at the same time (fractions), but I assume with full throughputs it will be the same answer

[dull shard]

we like more money per resource.

[void owl]

Should i make heto parts or sell the comps?

[dull shard]

but like we already use 2 wuling battiers who caers?

[unreal laurel]

2 for each SC?

[dull shard]

is my headspace.

[sterile stratus]

not actually 2

[tough berry]

i use 3 hc battery lol

[bright zodiac]

but isn't it the same? i think someone did math

heto parts vs yazhen A, and its the same

[dull shard]

tf?

[void owl]

Wait there is hc bat?

[sterile stratus]

why u need 6.6kw

[tacit quarry]

about 1.2 factory
I make
2 SC battery (12/m)
1 Heavy Xiranite (6/m)
1 Hetonite part (22.5/m)
1 Hetonite gear (1/m)
and left with 1 extra Xiranite
what do you guys do with it?

[bright zodiac]

ppl make heto, not to sell parts, but for components

[sterile stratus]

wait hc bat?

[tough berry]

i just do manual transfer weekly

[pulsar willow]

if you use the extended crucible, yes

[void owl]

about 1.2 factory
I make
6 SC battery
9 Heavy Xiranite
1 Hetonite gear
and left with 0 extra Xiranite
what do you guys do with it?

[slim moat]

I wish we could passthrough more resource types with the extended

[bright zodiac]

u can make v4 hc batt at wuling with just 1originium 1ferrium

[tough berry]

wait purple bat is hc right? or sc

[sterile stratus]

depot and sell xir daily

idk

[small creek]

peep the fit

[unreal laurel]

halo

[sterile stratus]

what...

[unreal laurel]

help me with this pipe madness pls

[dull shard]

12 battery 6 heavy, and about to move the cupriums to hetonite

[void owl]

Not on pc atm

[bright zodiac]

battery tier is different per region, HC in v4 is purp, LC in wuling is purp

[tough berry]

12 medium bat 6 heavy 9 potion 3 old potion

[small creek]

Im just telling u to look at the graph

[tough berry]

tnx

[small creek]

Ive long given up on the pipe madness that is heto

[unreal laurel]

so i need 4 running xircon effluent

[tacit quarry]

recycle your 4 innert Xircon eff to 1 Xircon eff

[unreal laurel]

for 2 SCs

[sterile stratus]

yes

[void owl]

I hate piping oml

[sterile stratus]

f the 4:1 ratio

this game's eos in 4.1

[small creek]

I did this for xircon #aic-factory message

1 for each 6/min SC batt, so 2 total

[tacit quarry]

conduit exist for that reason

[unreal laurel]

idk what that is

[tough berry]

speaking of which my factory got 1 extra forge that got no use lel

[sterile stratus]

yeah 2 cruc

[void owl]

Piping is so messy and tight there idk where ti put the conduit

[small creek]

It is the answer to your question

How make 4 xircon?

this is 2 xircon with 2 expanded crucible

[bright zodiac]

never leave forge unused

[tough berry]

but all my stuff at max usage lel it just be consuming power making 30 xianite that i cant use since my xianite at ax capacity

[slim moat]

set it up for fertilizer or something

[sterile stratus]

1 water treatment is enough for 1 copium refine right

[small creek]

Use the extra xiranite for making LCW batt

[tough berry]

tnxxx thats work

[void owl]

Yeah

[bright zodiac]

wtf, murdoshit bottleneck tho, kek

[void owl]

Or make effulent withit

[tough berry]

fertilizer droll

[sterile stratus]

idk why the water treatment keeps accumulate swage for me

[tough berry]

it can only handle 2 alchemy 1 treatment

while 1 is to 1 for the copper

[bright zodiac]

err usually 1 water treatment is exclusive to 1 facility's shit

[tough berry]

ops forgot the new alchemy formula lol XD who use haft output

1 is to 1

[sterile stratus]

getting clogged constantly and idk why

[unreal laurel]

WTF BSIDBEDIND?S

[random estuary]

Your output isn't eating the effluent fast enough

[tough berry]

thats needed 2 not 1

[sterile stratus]

what

[pulsar willow]

where is your crushed ferrium

[tough berry]

btw why cleaner the green goo there purification now

[sterile stratus]

uhh here?

[tough berry]

it got usage

[void owl]

What is the use of effluent?

[pulsar willow]

then you don't dispose of your inert effluent fast enough?

[tough berry]

can be turned to cleaner goo with extra water to

[nimble topaz]

I'm disappointed

[void owl]

What do i do with the water?

[sterile stratus]

here

[tough berry]

pipe it to your 1 xianite farm

[pulsar willow]

you can either make something with it or just dump it into the river

[void owl]

Wait

[sterile stratus]

yes

[unreal laurel]

i hate the purifier so much......

[tacit quarry]

I think current option about 1 Extra Xiranite are
LC battery + meta (Dense Originium powder)
Xiranite component + meta (Dense Originium powder)
Cuprium component - need cuprium, reduce hetonite production

[sterile stratus]

1 water per 2 sec and idk why it CLOGGED

[void owl]

WHERE IS THE 40 K TABK

[unreal laurel]

do i purify the effluent?

[void owl]

I wanna fill it with heavy xiranite

[small creek]

Those are indeed the options we have
I prefer the 1st one since i have 60k xiranite components already

[pulsar willow]

if you want to free up one of your sky forges - yes

[sterile stratus]

purification makes .5 water and forge uses .5

and it clog

like wtf

[unreal laurel]

im so confused

[viscid pagoda]

not sure I understand there isn,t any inlet for them

[pulsar willow]

I wouldn't trust the purification thing, just dump it into the river and bring the normal pumped water

[sterile stratus]

oh wait i know why...

[void owl]

Is hetonine component / parts the most expensive thing in the game rn

[dull shard]

adjusted yield. good, yeah?

[static isle]

your SC facs output 2x inert xircon line that you normally have to treat
replace those treatment plants with inlets
and bring them to a purification unit

[sterile stratus]

i use 2 seed+2plant and i put few seed in that so it don't produce properly

lmaoo

[void owl]

Is it possible to sustain 12/m heavy xir?

[tacit quarry]

I think LC battery is the best option atm, until we need xiranite or cuprium component

[sterile stratus]

now i'm good

[unreal laurel]

each extended reactor can do 2 recipes right?

[vapid dock]

It can do however many recipes its inventory can hold

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[unreal laurel]

so i run both the xircon recipes and use 2 seperate reactors to make the effulent match?

[unreal laurel]

whut

[sterile stratus]

is my hetonite good

[tacit quarry]

yes, but you down with only 0 SC battery production
which most likely impossible since we dont have enough energy

[sterile stratus]

can only afford 2 copium

[void owl]

1 forge produces 6 per min h.xir roght

[uneven aspen]

you can have 1 of the reactors do 3 recipes including the xircon

[sterile stratus]

yh

[tacit quarry]

yes

[glossy sequoia]

Can someone please tell me the difference between the blue version and the purple version?

[void owl]

Why cant i? 2 copium mines for sc, 2 for xir, purift effulent to save some xir

[small creek]

The purple version is a fucking fraud

[vapid dock]

2/min vs 4/min

[glossy sequoia]

ty

[shrewd knoll]

the purple version is for masochist

[upper fiber]

finally done

[viscid pagoda]

omg ty

[bright zodiac]

since you use 2SC and has so many power, you can make a..
somewhat slow meds C(drinks or syringe) , to not let your ferrium cap

[dull shard]

ferrium lines are 2 power and 3 heto related lines

[upper fiber]

not messy anymore with the power of conduit

[sterile stratus]

2 hetonite+6 yazhen A is good right?

[upper fiber]

yeah

[bright zodiac]

to maximize usage of purple inlet, you practically need 4 pump into it

where most liquid barely has good location to put 4pump lineup into 1 twin inlet (sure anywhere is possiblr with messy pipe)

[dull shard]

I didn't break my lines and can easily revert to yazhen though.

[glossy sequoia]

what is the end goal products of the current wuling factory. i havent chnaged my factory but i was producing 2 x sc wuling battery and 1 yazhen a. what should i tune my factory to produce in the new update as end products?

[sterile stratus]

mhm so i'm good i think

[tacit quarry]

without recycle Innert Xircon eff from 2 Solid Xircon
1 heavy Xiranite
-- 2 Xiranite
-- 1 Xircon eff
---- 1 xiranite
you need 4 skyforge for this (3 for simple Xiranite and 1 for Heavy Xiranite)
right now we can only make 8 sky forge

[bright zodiac]

ferrium usage are usually 115 (+meta)

[void owl]

Why are yall meta transfering ferrium?

[dull shard]

meta is +35 is it?

[bright zodiac]

25

[glossy sequoia]

i see. so 4 pumps converged into 2 inlets and then those 2 outlets gets split into 4 outlets then ?

[tacit quarry]

furrim (90 from mining, + extra 25 from meta)

[bright zodiac]

yessss,

its more facility count to save inlet outlet count i guess

[dull shard]

wait hold on okay, if I DO make something with ferrium, I would have to sacrifice my xiranite battery [sc battery from dense from transfer]

[sterile stratus]

i think i can use 20 more ori if i meta

[dull shard]

what else can I do with this without affecting my overall yield because guh

[bright zodiac]

meds, only need plants and ferrium tho......

like ive mention

[sterile stratus]

plant

[dull shard]

so I can make yazhen c

int othe fitting unit

[wispy wren]

aighty today we rebuild our base

[sterile stratus]

lol

[wispy wren]

man I have to delete my entire setup cause of everything being an abomination

[viscid pagoda]

how much xiranite can we make now 180 or 210?

[bright zodiac]

240

[sterile stratus]

lol

[wispy wren]

question to the lords,
for an optimal setup of everything
how many lines we need for the folllowing
sandleaf
yenzhen/jincao(for carbon and syringe)

[sterile stratus]

what2do with the xiranite

[bright zodiac]

bottle it into hetonite bottle and flex

[glossy sequoia]

can some1 answer this ?

[shrewd knoll]

fill the hole with heavy xiranite liquid

[sterile stratus]

nah i'm farming chests

gotta stop procastinating

[distant sphinx]

any new products to sell, or are we just producing H.xiranite and upgraded parts

[short peak]

need help what i should be producing in wuling. I still dont have a proper factory here

[void owl]

I spend way too muxh time in factory

I really need to play the game

[sterile stratus]

12 sc bat, hetonite part/yazhen A/jincao

[marble yarrow]

let them accumulate, then once they are near 68k, switch a xiranite-producing forge into heavy xiranite

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[small creek]

Where do we get xircon eff though

I think we just sell raw no

[gentle sentinel]

The acummulated xiranite (?)

[small creek]

Well that wont last long

[marsh inlet]

So question, I keep running into an issue of my entire factory shutting down if I leave the game for an extended time because of hitting the resource cap, I keep logging back on to no power and having to use a backup supply of batteries I keep, is there any way to circumvent this?

[brave dawn]

@sage scarab sorry for pinging you but it's easier to show

[marsh inlet]

I need an item burner T^T so I can route an overfill line to it

[gentle sentinel]

I mean 13 hours is long

[small creek]

Send this

[marsh inlet]

Well rn its just dead

[crystal portal]

Ive genuinely hit a wall on the hetonite production

[marsh inlet]

Leme get it running again

[knotty vine]

is there an optimal production stats yet or is everyone still on testing phase

[crystal portal]

This is so hard to produce, what the hell

[small creek]

Something like this (metatransfer dense ori instead of ferrium)

[nimble topaz]

check your originium output. you might ran out of it. a good way to solve it is to limit your originium consumption for batteries

[marsh inlet]

The main issue is im capping on cuprium parts but I need to keep refining them for oil to make batteries, but when they max out the whole system just dies

[small creek]

Then use the cuprium

Make hetonite, syringes, comps, etc

[tough berry]

400 sandleaf

[knotty vine]

thanks. is there a reason to be making lc batteries again? this is what mine looks currently

[marsh inlet]

I havent done the recent story yet but

[solemn shore]

Is this a gud compact setup

[marsh inlet]

I prob just need to flat restart on the whole thing tbh

[small creek]

Something to use the 30 extra xiranite for

[marsh inlet]

Esp with the new stuff

[small creek]

Your xiranite yield is 180, mine is 210

[knotty vine]

also apparently my factory clogged and stopped last night while i was sleeping im sad

[small creek]

I have 30 extra

[brave dawn]

Guys why can't i transfer from wuling to Valley ?

[sage scarab]

Ahhh okay... Well as u can see it says that its not available for now

[tough berry]

btw any min maxer how high power for the hetonite farm than potion farm?

[sage scarab]

@brave dawn What I do is I go to dijiang and put the stuff to my backpack and transfer it to wuling

[small creek]

Around 300 more power

[brave dawn]

is that for everyone ?

[sage scarab]

Wait i will show u

[tough berry]

for potion 3450 dont know hetonite ver

[sage scarab]

Yes

[tough berry]

tnx

[marsh inlet]

The rates say its overcapping but I have a splitter line slowing consumption so its not

Just reroutes back into the system

[brave dawn]

I know how to do dw, i just wanted to automate this thing. Thank you for answering anyway

[marsh inlet]

[small creek]

wtf SC

[marsh inlet]

Theres levels to ts Ig bro

[sage scarab]

Welcome!! And yeah it's so hard to do its manually i hope we can stockpile soon to Wuling

[small creek]

Haruna why

I was already satisfied with LC

[marble yarrow]

im at LC as well. i dont want that facilities i have to use if i have to do the fractional SC

too power hungry

[small creek]

Also im using 1 SCW + 1 HCV for power

Yea same issue

[marsh inlet]

@marble yarrow could I see your factory, just so I have something to aspire to?

[marble yarrow]

yeah im at 4500 power

[small creek]

Nice

Looks like we're twinning after all

[tough berry]

dang 4.5k

[marble yarrow]

my main AIC base has 2 acid pipes routed from marker stone

[marsh inlet]

Loony fr

[small creek]

This is with my liquid hxira bottler on #aic-factory message

If i turn it off i have like 100 less power consumption

[marsh inlet]

I like to bottle sewage to spray on civilians

(Ik you cant bottle sewage)

[small creek]

You can

[marsh inlet]

YOU CAN

[small creek]

Idk if u can spray it tho

[marsh inlet]

Just put it on a sprinkler system

[marsh inlet]

Looks clean af

Where are u making ur dust cubes

[marble yarrow]

tucked in a narrow alley lmaoo

[marsh inlet]

Thats actually not a bad idea tbh

It always looks so ugly

Just like 80 lines of originium grinding

[marble yarrow]

they're so depot bus hungry

[marsh inlet]

Ikkkkk

[viscid pagoda]

how many pumps do I need for this

[marble yarrow]

1

[marsh inlet]

Just leme upgrade a shredder T-T

One thing im still tryna figure out is how the whole combining pipelines work

Bcs like

[unreal laurel]

I HATE PIPES SO MUCH WTF

[marsh inlet]

Ik one pump can fuel 2 things without efficiency drop

[unreal laurel]

INEKAUSNMFKDHMAJXVFNKEA

[tacit quarry]

I will give you summary what change from 1.1 to 1.2
1.1

• 2 SC battery (2 Xircon, 4 Xircon eff, 4 Xiranite)
• 1 Syringe [A] (4 Cuprium)
  -- selling SC battery and Syringe [A]
  1.2
• 2 SC battery (2 Xircon, 4 Xircon eff, 4 Xiranite) * slightly modify innert Xircon eff route (water treatment -> recycle to make Xircon eff)
• 1 heavy xiranite (2 Xiranite + 1 recycle Xircon eff (from 4 innert Xircon eff to 1 Xircon eff with purification unit) )
• 1 Hetonite production (75% production because Cuprium ore resource cap)
• 1 Hetonite part (4.5/sec)
• 1 Hetonite gear (1-3/sec depend on how much Hetonite part do you want to split)

• we got extra Xiranite production left which can make these (LC battery, Xiranite gear, Cuprium gear)
  -- selling SC battery and Hetonite part (and maybe LC battery if you make it)

---

and things you need to do after get all resource unlock

• remove Syringe [A] production
• increase Cuprium production from 4 line to 6 line
• re-route 4 innert Xircon eff from the 4 line of making Xircon eff (from making 2 SC battery production ) to purification unit to make 1 extra Xircon eff
• create production line of Hetonite to make Hetonite part (6 Cuprium, 1 Ferrium)
• making Hetonite part
  ---------- Optional --------------
• making LC battery (recommend from LV1 camp)
• decide which gear you want to make (Xiranite, Cuprium, Hetonite)
• making bottle of Liquid heavy Xiranite

[marsh inlet]

Same twin same

[unreal laurel]

im suffering

and somehow

the extended reactor isnt big enough

i need smth bigger

[marsh inlet]

Keeping ts running at max efficiency and still making it look pretty

Is so difficult

I stg

[unreal laurel]

we need a bigger reactor

[glossy sequoia]

thx for explaining. this makes it easy for me to see what to aim for

[unreal laurel]

the extended isnt big enough

[marsh inlet]

I just wanna not have to use 80 friggin depots for shredding originum

[unreal laurel]

this is my solution

[marsh inlet]

YUPPPP

Looks abt right

[unreal laurel]

im hoping to eventually connect my xircon rocks into it

[marsh inlet]

I havent gotten the new stuff yet but

[trim star]

wonderful

[unreal laurel]

same

its just pipes

[marsh inlet]

NEW TURRETS???!?!?!

[quartz pagoda]

do you smuggle Originium or something? how can you have enough for all this

[crude pulsar]

so what do the expanded crucible do beside have more solid intake? seems like a waste of space

[trim star]

you can have two reactions happening at the same time

[void owl]

Try the very large reactor, now with 4 liquid inputs!

[quartz pagoda]

2 reactions at once = saves space
Input Water Sewage and Xiranite = Makes Liquid Xiranite and uses it inmediately to make Xircon Effluent and Innert Xircon as your 2 outputs
same thing for the Cuprium Hetonite liquid

[marsh inlet]

I think its pretty enough

And it does the job

[spring orchid]

It actually saves space

Two reaction at once

[storm garnet]

or even 3

[marsh inlet]

Still figuring out how to use splitters going back into depot to limit use rate

[crude pulsar]

but 2 fluid intakes?

i guess we can use a solid+liquid reaction huh

[tacit quarry]

you can make 3 things at once, which save around 100 energy (in current build) and a some space
so dont really bother doing it

[crude pulsar]

but that's... limited

[storm garnet]

you can make solid xircon with just 1 expanded crucible

[spring orchid]

You need the expanded crucible to make heavy xiranite effectively

[storm garnet]

from solid xiranite

[void owl]

How do you do 3?

[storm garnet]

just put all the line inside

[spring orchid]

Put everything inside

[storm garnet]

you need half a pipe of sewage as input

[storm garnet]

output is just inert xircon

[glossy sequoia]

should i just keep making yazhen A till my new factory hits lvl 2 ?

[spring orchid]

Whatever floats your boat

[quartz pagoda]

it is super useful

[spring orchid]

You kind of wanted to change to hetonic parts later on

More profit

[quartz pagoda]

Input? Ratio?

i want this

[storm garnet]

i'll open the game now, hopefully i can get lvl 2 outpost already (prob not)

[crude pulsar]

now im seeing you can use it for xircon effluent and save 1 crucible, but idk abt heavy xira

[quartz pagoda]

Water, Sweage, Ferrium Dust... and Xiranite

[crude pulsar]

im guessing thats what youre referring to for heavy xira

[spring orchid]

Xircon + 2 xiranite -> heavy xira

[tacit quarry]

I recommend
making Yazhen A and LC battery, so make 1 extra Xiranite for LC battery production
you can deal with Heavy Xiranite and Hetonite later

[spring orchid]

You pipe it to a forge of the sky

[tough berry]

is this good its using potion than heto?

[tough patio]

So the control pipes restrict total flow not flow per second?.... what is this for if you only need to make a small amount of something?

[crude pulsar]

yeah, so its for liquid xircon production currently

[spring orchid]

Mhm for heavy xira

[storm garnet]

great, everything is clogged, time to troubleshoot

at least i got this

[spring orchid]

Basically all fluid for tbe reaction -> expanded crucible -> liquid xircon + 2 xiranite -> forge -> heavy xiranite

[glossy sequoia]

im making 2 sc battery so i gotta reduce it to 1 sc battery and turn other one to lc battery right ?

[vapid dock]

I transported originium from v4 to wuling to produce lc so I can get my outpost to lv2

[tacit quarry]

no need to touch 2 SC battery

[quartz pagoda]

thats what i did, with 1 SC Power Bank and 2 LC Power Banks

[storm garnet]

shit, the excess water i put for food didn't get used fast enough

i guess i have to turn on the fluid supply even if i'm making food

[chrome shell]

Is heavy Xira good for anything after filling a tank and some bottles? I have half a mind to halve my heavy Xira and redirect the light Xora to components for artificing

[tough berry]

for selling

[vapid dock]

Selling

[tough berry]

its has same prices as medium potion abit higher

[glossy sequoia]

i was using dense originium powder to transfer from v4 instead originium

[chrome shell]

I'm selling it but I'm outpacing demand, feels like at more than 2x the rate I'm producing

[tacit quarry]

just upgrade your tech tree to unlock Sky forge from 4->8
at max build we use 7 forge for Xiranite and 1 for Heavy Xiranite

[vapid dock]

No I mean I manually transported originum

[quartz pagoda]

i did 🙁 tell me your secrets
can i produce 2 SC + Medicine + Heavy Xiranite + Hetotnite Gear/Parts
and still have leftovers for other Xiranite gear components?
tell me how plz

[chrome shell]

Guess I'll try halving it

[tough berry]

ay another buddy who do manual transfer weekly

[vapid dock]

That was just temporary until I got outpost to lv2

[glossy sequoia]

sky forge isnt the problem, producving dense originium powder is the problem. im already at 240 yield and 270 usage, compensating through metastorage transfer from v4

[tough berry]

rip

[upper fiber]

need meta transfer dense ori though for the ori crust

[storm garnet]

update compensation, did something happen?

[vapid dock]

You dont even need meta transfer after alls done

[quartz pagoda]

you using packed origocrust?

[chrome shell]

There was very bad menu lag, wonder if the update hotfixed it

[tough berry]

maybe from story?

[upper fiber]

yeah, after update the game become heavier, they f'd up

[upper fiber]

you want to make xiranite component right

[storm garnet]

yea, patch notes mention some main story bugs

[quartz pagoda]

ah right, i forgot it uses it

[storm garnet]

mostly the last chapter, which i didn't start lol

[tough berry]

its the sub s in buttom gone i think they fixed while doing zipline

or the no hp bar boss

[quartz pagoda]

they should fix me losing 2 50/50 to Ember

i like Ember

but at last give me a Lifeng i dont have him yet

[tough berry]

plz fix me losing allways with lastrite

[quartz pagoda]

wish i had lost to Tangtang

[void owl]

I really widh metastorage was immediate

[chrome shell]

Oh nice they did fix menu lag

[tough berry]

speaking of meta why we cant use it when we 12 allready im drolling on all those fertilizer

[storm garnet]

if it was per 2 seconds or even every minute, meta would be much better, even with same numbers

[void owl]

Is ot just me or has the game lagged extremely hard for anyone when they pulled up menus?

[tough berry]

its lagging for me everywhere XD

[storm garnet]

wuling transfer only shows storage mode i think, it doesn't show what you can meta from wuling yet, i don't think we will have shit for meta

[quartz pagoda]

anything we can produce in wuling... right?

[storm garnet]

"produce"

[tough berry]

i want that ferilizer

[quartz pagoda]

i was reading

[tacit quarry]

you can make 2 SC and 1 Heavy without having problem with Xiranite production
with these you use 6/7 xiranite, which left 1 xiranite for extra production
but problem is we dont have enough Cuprium we only have 6 line of production
Syringe A (need 4 Cuprium line to ran smoothly)
Hetonite (need 8 Cuprium line to ran smoothly, which is impossible atm, now it only ran at 75%)
so you have to decide how much Cuprium line you want to spend to each production
and about Xiranite gear, we do have extra Xiranite, so just transport Dense Originium powder from Valley 4

[upper fiber]

it is stockpile not meta

[quartz pagoda]

is Dense more efficient that raw?

[crimson inlet]

I flinched like a dog as I read that

[quartz pagoda]

that would be crazy good tbh

[tough berry]

hrmm tnx for reminding me guess i on it so i dont have to manually transfer potion

though need to wait 1.3 ver ahaha

[fluid fog]

Definitely cause you already process alot of step.

[tacit quarry]

its the same as raw Originium ore so you bypass whole production line,
but dont import Packed Origocrust it only half efficient

[quartz pagoda]

thanks
i'll also rework my reactor thingy for the batteries tomorrow

i think it would be possible to use that Dense Originium and Xiranite to make extra LC batteries too, even if i have to use transport belt witchcraft

[fluid fog]

https://klipy.com/gifs/run-bombs-1

[storm garnet]

lvl 2 outpost quest is thanking me for supplying heavy xiranite, but i only gave them tea :/

a structure stability based on tea

[sonic summit]

soo lvl 2 is the limit?

[fluid fog]

never knew you can actually make 6/m

[quartz pagoda]

its like main quest saying i provide xiranite for the barrier
never have i sold 1 Xiranite, never will

[crimson inlet]

You supplied it during the Main Story

[storm garnet]

i'm at before chapter 6, and you can do this quest before chapter 5 anyways

[quartz pagoda]

also, if Xiranite is just Water + Carbon. Isnt it just sugar?

[subtle finch]

omg, you're timing is perfect, i was exactly looking for those 3 at the bottom
where'd you get these?

[storm garnet]

i'm guessing you need to give some in chapter 6, though it's not to the outpost anyways

[sonic summit]

WAIT THERE no early warning terminal here?

[quartz pagoda]

this chat, earlier today

[fluid fog]

lemme yoink it XD

[quartz pagoda]

the YSTF will deal with any intruders, dont worry

[void owl]

How do i make HC batteries?

[tacit quarry]

yep at this patch

[quartz pagoda]

for Valley IV, right?

[storm garnet]

you sure? patch notes talked about it i think

[tacit quarry]

yeah, no intruder atm

[void owl]

No, wuling

[storm garnet]

maybe the bug about that was in another outpost

[quartz pagoda]

Heavy Xiranite and Packed Origocrust

(jk)

there are no golden batteries yet

[sonic summit]

maybe we got lvl 3 on part 2 of 1,2 update in may the one with massive purification update and new map

[crimson inlet]

We also did not get the Rabbit lvl4 upgrade in Jingyu Valley, which was showcased during the stream.

Most likely mid-version update with Test Area stuff, as those will include newer AIC formulas as well

[quartz pagoda]

the real question is
what is being tested at the test area?

[spring orchid]

No HC wuling battery yet

[void owl]

Nahanah nah, liquid henotite

[spring orchid]

New things to make is hetonite parts + heavy xiranite

[storm garnet]

yea, the patch note i was talking about was about the other outpost

[sonic summit]

oh we can take picture this far?

[tacit quarry]

how about Liquid Oroberyl

[twilit tangle]

is there a machine can store heavy xiranite by put from inventory and pipe to reactor?
I want to make some heavy xiranite liquid bottle

[storm garnet]

i think the logic is similar to the ziplines

[subtle finch]

very nice

[spring orchid]

Filling unit

[trim star]

bottle acid

but you should just

[spring orchid]

Oh

Wait

Yeah

[trim star]

pipe the acid to the reactor

[spring orchid]

You need acid first

[trim star]

and add heavy xiranite

[storm garnet]

getting all the new bottle recipes for filling unit and separating unit in this patch is a ride

[vale topaz]

filling unit.
you will need crucible with acid input and heavy xiranite, connect the fluid to filling unit and just manual pick bottle from backpack

[void owl]

What do i do with hetonite parts?

[storm garnet]

i still need to get the ones for the older liquids for the new bottle

[spring orchid]

Sell them

[quartz pagoda]

use a Tank
Place the filled bottles in the tank from your inventory, they empty into it instantly

[subtle finch]

make new stuff like towers, sell them or make components

[spring orchid]

They have around 15% more value than Yazhen A

[dull shard]

I present frankenstein core AIC

[spring orchid]

In terms of material cost

[sonic summit]

guys how do you store acid again ? just use filling unit right?

[trim star]

yeah

you can bottle acid fine

[storm garnet]

SEE, THEY ARE USING THE TEA, I TOLD YOU

[quartz pagoda]

put it in a tank and place empty bottles in the tank from your inventory, they get filled

[trim star]

fluid tanks might be op

my 3 tanks of soda

[spring orchid]

Fluid tanks is nice

To fill up bottles

[vale topaz]

totally jam packed x_X
but good on its own way

[sonic summit]

what about auto?

[quartz pagoda]

Water tank
Xiranite tank
Heavy Xiranite tank
all i need

[trim star]

i should make an overflow heavy xiranite tank whenever i work on my base

[gloomy relic]

Still on life support but better now

[quartz pagoda]

ah... thats with Filling units, to take the acid out of the bottles you use the Separating units

[sonic summit]

so acid and any bottleright?

[quartz pagoda]

but... why would you do this? are you trying to transfer Acid to the main PAC?

[sonic summit]

i just want to use this tbh

[quartz pagoda]

use Cryston bottles just in case. They are mostly non-reactive and great for storing corrosive liquids

[sonic summit]

both zone maxed

[quartz pagoda]

i use Cryston for my water, Cuprium for my Xiranite and Hetonite bottles for my Heavy Xiranite

[crimson inlet]

Only 9/m SC batteries?

[quartz pagoda]

rookie numbers

[crimson inlet]

Ah no

Mb, there are 3 packers

[dull shard]

yeah. using 2 of the other batteries for it. though I can MAYBE use the older wuling battery instead, since it's in production

[crimson inlet]

Didnt see the third one on top right

[twilit tangle]

how to put heavy xiranite

[sonic summit]

now to remake it all in my main factory

[magic steppe]

having 2 powder and acid inputs on a crucible would probably cause it to clog right?

production speed is once every 2 secs

[sonic summit]

add heavy xira into crucible from its input

[crimson inlet]

Yes. Extended can make multiple recipes at the same time, but not multiple of the same recipe

[magic steppe]

welp time to rebuild from scratch

[quartz pagoda]

use a Protocol Stash that has been disconnected electricity

[twilit tangle]

I tried but not trans to formula

[sonic summit]

use protocol stash or from unloader

cant do it manualy

[quartz pagoda]

Output is what clogs, not input

[storm garnet]

you are trying to make a liquid from solid, how can you input it as liquid first

[fluid fog]

You can't put materials manually into Crucible

[nova knot]

Is current curprium yield 180 or am I missing something?

[crimson inlet]

180 is correct

[fluid fog]

no, its just 180/m

6 lines of cuprium

[nova knot]

Cool, just double checking before I try to find any missing bits LOL

[solid python]

Any way to remove this giant shadow?

[spring orchid]

That's p funny

[crimson inlet]

Nope, inputs will be clogged in their setup, as the crucible won’t be able to make multiples of the same recipe and will make only 1unit/2sec of outputs

[inland ruin]

What's the Wuling factory goals now? Batteries and new component parts I assume?

[storm garnet]

play on low settings maybe lol

[fluid fog]

I don't think you can, its hardcoded sfx I think.

[spring orchid]

Hetonite and heavy xiranite

[quartz pagoda]

thats just a raincloud, turn off the sun and it will go away

[storm garnet]

or higher settings

[spring orchid]

I expect new batteries

Next patch

I don't like using dige reeee

[quartz pagoda]

yeah but being inefficient and clogging are 2 diff things

[crimson inlet]

Nah, its an actual big shadow in the Marker Stone PAC
Present there all the time

[inland ruin]

Is it worth rebuilding my factory from the 1.1 version then?

[vapid dock]

Fr the shadow in marker annoying

[iron spoke]

I also want to turn it off.. it occasionally tanks my frame rate in factory mode

[quartz pagoda]

i had to build Heavy Xiranite and Hetonite infrastructure in the new area + tomorrow i'll compress the SC battery production line with the new Crucible

thats it, didnt had to change anything else

[inland ruin]

Noted, I was worried I was gonna have to rebuild the entire thing from scratch due to space concerns

[quartz pagoda]

x2

[valid gazelle]

Ye its next to a mountain

[quartz pagoda]

isnt that shadow just the darkness in our hearts manifesting as a doomsday hallucination?

i can still hear their voices...

[subtle finch]

why does 13.25 sc batteries still cost 120 xiranite?

[iron spoke]

so it's worth it to eliminate meds all together now?

[storm garnet]

i redid most of my main aic this patch, i wanted to do it since 1.1 anyways

[valid gazelle]

No its the darkness in our hearts yearning for the extra 60 copium

[twilit tangle]

i already use max sky forge, so no way to do without forge?

[storm garnet]

it looks worse now, yay

[solid python]

Purification

[spring orchid]

My setup is 7 xiranite forge in Sub AIC Qingbo, 2 SCW in main AIC, and Hetonite + Heavy xiranite production in marker zone

[inland ruin]

So essentially

Heavy Xiranite and Hetonite part lines with the extra cuprium we got and that's it

[spring orchid]

You can make max of 4.5 hetonite, 6 heavy xiranite, 12 SCW per min this patch

[subtle finch]

still not adding up to me all 4 inert are already being used for heavy xiranite

[crimson inlet]

For current moment yes. But there are 2 updates this version incoming - 28th of April and 14th of May, both may impact (and most likely will) the recipes we do in AIC

[final sierra]

FINALY 6 fully independent Xiranite production in first sub AIC 🤩

[quartz pagoda]

taxes

[subtle finch]

[spring orchid]

*current ver of the patch

[lethal orchid]

let me introduce you my humble hetonite produccion (it was just vibing)

[spring orchid]

I forgor about new update later

[dull shard]

do we actually have spare xircon to make sc batteries?

beacuse 13.25

[vapid dock]

You can make all syringe/all hetonite or a mix of both. They can all meet the hourly quota with excess

[subtle finch]

we don't that's why im asking the question

[quartz pagoda]

no, i think Wuling story might not be over yet. we must be ready if disaster strikes again.
We lost too many... if only we have had more medicine at hand. We wont make that mistake ever again.

[spring orchid]

Hetonite is slightly more efficient tho

[inland ruin]

Can I use the Hetonite parts for artificing, or will I have to essentially sell all of my production to keep up with outpost demand

[subtle finch]

you can take it from the spare forge but that should be lower than 30 surplus just like lc

[vapid dock]

Not if the net bills gained is zero cause you cant sell if they have no money

[marble yarrow]

aight, fixed

[quartz pagoda]

you guys use your innert?
plz explain in detail

[crystal sundial]

What even is the purpose of expanded crucible in the current factory?

[iron spoke]

I divided evenly between the two

[vapid dock]

You turn a 10 crucible setup into 4

[subtle finch]

1k difference is enticing , since i don't wanna make meds again

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[quartz pagoda]

its goated, saves space and brain power

[valid gazelle]

You cook with it

Either you cook the tightest builds or you cook yourself

And i cooked myself

[vapid dock]

SC battery

[quartz pagoda]

so you use 50% - 75% effiency leftover to make Heavy Xiranite?

[subtle finch]

i don't wanna be mean, but i swear more than half of the answer i get here don't check the specific of the question first before answering

[crimson inlet]

If you desire to produce Components for artificing at the same time as covering the bills generated, Id advise fractioning the inputs of Gearing Units. I can link my thread about this setup in the chat below
Hetonite Gear eats x3 of Bills to craft compared to Xiranite, so its preferred to use Xiranite ones for artificing

[spring orchid]

Xiranite components is still the most goated of components

Who could've thought

[final sierra]

:)

[inland ruin]

That would be much appreciated, I haven't been building my teams because I haven't bothered to run the numbers on the outposts and materials required and just been profitmaxxing

[dense blade]

sorry for the late response but Na/Eu will be done soon. Asia will take some time to port.

[storm garnet]

this is the elitist channel. we elitists always jump to any opportunity to be elite even if we are wrong.

[unreal marsh]

[crimson inlet]

There should be plenty of explanation provided on how to set it up, but feel free to ping me in case of any questions

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495223209077768324

[unreal laurel]

is this the final verdict on optimal production?

[final sierra]

(separating yellow cubes production looks better option for me cuz it looks like never need to be rebuilded)

[storm garnet]

well, even with math it's still like coming up with a proper team and rotation, not perfect science

[unreal laurel]

so?

[storm garnet]

you would need to code it to maybe get a perfect answer

excel is kinda "codeing" in a small way though

[unreal laurel]

how do i even read this

[storm garnet]

if it says, say, 12/min sc batteries, that means that that option makes you craft 12/min, which means 2 packager machines running at 100% efficiency

13.25 means there is an extra 1.25 on a third machine

[unreal laurel]

whys the lc section have so many decimals

[storm garnet]

so you need to divide 1.25 into 6, which is what 1 machine does, to know the ratio you need to use in the line

[pulsar willow]

1.25 sounds like a very uneven ratio

[storm garnet]

the number is a bit weird, 20.8333%, so it's better to use the fraction itself

[pulsar willow]

1.2 maybe?

okay then it's very weird

[timid gate]

Chat this 512 item count limit, is it for the whole region? Or just the AIC region?

[unreal laurel]

is 1.25 extra SC worth it?

[jovial breach]

Better just make lc, far more simpler

[unreal laurel]

thats so many extra workbenches

[storm garnet]

say, you need 30 xircon for 1 line, so you multiply 30 to 1.25, then divide by 6

[jovial breach]

And can sustain 1 thermal

[pulsar willow]

is metatransfering origium meta now?

[storm garnet]

so you don't need to use the %, just the fraction works in every step

[timid gate]

Anyone?

[unreal laurel]

do i make the liquid xiranite in a regular reactor before it goes into the double xircon reactor plus?

[pulsar willow]

main AIC region

[jovial breach]

Yes transfer the ori cube for extra lc or sc battery

[final sierra]

full region part

[timid gate]

Ok, so it doesn't count pylons in say wuling city?

[timid gate]

Oh

[storm garnet]

no, it's the aic whole zone, aka wuling city

[pulsar willow]

it's still the wuling AIC region, so it still counts

[timid gate]

Dam, made my core AIC too dense i guess

[pulsar willow]

map region if simpler

[storm garnet]

they should give more limit for wuling city, it fills fast

[timid gate]

Yea exactly

[pulsar willow]

yeah I would have made a bit more things if not for that limit

[marble yarrow]

true. just slap a packaging unit, belt out a dense originium so you return 5/min to depot.

[jovial breach]

Those conduits really use a lot of protocol limit

[storm garnet]

i'm only using a few tbh

[river wadi]

then use the double conduit

[jovial breach]

Same with the big conduits too

[trim star]

they're +1 but each pipe also +1s

when i made my conduit chain i went from 313 -> 340

[storm garnet]

normal conduits are already good enough with their speed

i only see a use for manifolds to get inside the aic if surrounded by buildings tbh

it helps with protocol limit technically, but where you need it would be for water from far away, but all aics have water next to them

[pulsar willow]

splitter without splitters, saves a bit on the structure limit front and that's it

[storm garnet]

splitters use different limit

they use pipe one

512 is not affected

[pulsar willow]

oh yeah?

[storm garnet]

that's why is usually better to uses pipes than conduits or tanks

even if they get long

[pulsar willow]

pipes are messy

[trim star]

the 512 machine limit is basically pac only

[pulsar willow]

not a very big fan or pipe arrays

[storm garnet]

512 is whole zone

ziplines, relays, conduits, etc

[trim star]

it isnt

i have much more than 512 machines in wuling alone

[pulsar willow]

it is

[storm garnet]

dude, i had a problem once with trying to put a zipline and got the 512

[trim star]

there's stuff that count towards protocol limit but doesnt count towards machine limit

[pulsar willow]

can we just all agree that you are wrong

[storm garnet]

try putting a lot of belt splitters in the aic until you reach 512, then try building anything outside

[trim star]

my main pac would be completely not functional if i was wrong

[river wadi]

just test that theory

[trim star]

xd

my protocol limit is at 340

i would have 172 machines in pac

[pulsar willow]

IT'S NOT THE SAME

[trim star]

combining parts i have much more than 172

[storm garnet]

protocol limit is not the same thing

[pulsar willow]

protocol limit is not a structure limit

[trim star]

yeah but protocol limit is also a +1 which functionally works as a counter

[storm garnet]

a zipline counts as 1 for 512, but 3 for protocol

[trim star]

does it

anything else

[storm garnet]

some count as 2 too

most count as 2 tbh

relays count as 1

so just 1 zipline makes you get 4 in one go

[trim star]

the math still doesnt add up

ill hit it when i hit it

[storm garnet]

ok dude

[trim star]

most likely it's still not going to happen

xd

[fluid fog]

Protocol capacity is when outside of AIC Area, but there's also construction and unconstruction limit within AIC that's include belt count.

[trim star]

yeah that's why im saying id be way over the limit already unless some things didnt count

[storm garnet]

belts themselves don't count for 512 actually, just splitters and such

[pulsar willow]

man we tell you that these things are not the same

[storm garnet]

but they count for the ~1100 limit

[storm garnet]

don't even bother, he doesn't care

[trim star]

yeah i dont think i need to care too much

it's chill i get what yall are saying

[storm garnet]

"i don't care but you are all wrong i guess"

[pulsar willow]

I need an "overwhelming burden of thinking" picture with tangtang asap

[pallid canopy]

factory wizards can I do something with my 9 extra ferrium my HC batteries kinda dying

[trim star]

there's something that isnt checking out if what you're saying is true

that's all im pointing out

[storm garnet]

yea, the fact that you can't think you might be wrong is what doesn't check out

[trim star]

yeah if im wrong then what's wrong

idk what im trying to fight against

im not even saying anything

protocol limit cant be counter check

what else

[storm garnet]

i won't even bother continuing, we explained it a thousand times already

[trim star]

pipes and belts dont +1

ive known that

[pallid canopy]

Im thinking of manually moving batteries from valley 4 cos I don't have to buy / sell anything over there

[trim star]

so in whichever case where is the 512 limit coming from

please enlighten me

[storm garnet]

512 limit is hidden, you can't see it until you hit it...

[trim star]

exactly

so what counts towards it

[storm garnet]

lol

any building that is not a pipe or a pipe splitter/etc

[random estuary]

I did exactly this.
Go to omyong. Press and hold HC battery. Send over all to backpack,
Swap to wuling. Quick stash.
Rinse repeat ~1000 at a time.
Transfer like. ~10 times. Once a week. Ez energy

[trim star]

ive only seen people hit the 512 limit through extreme cases like the logic machines

[storm garnet]

i don't even make logic balancers and i hit it easily in prior patches

[trim star]

yeah that's why it's weird

[storm garnet]

i remade the aic this patch and i'm about 50 away

you can hit it easily with things like bridges

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

IM BACK🗣️

[pallid canopy]

yeh I know but just want a temporary solution so I can focus on my gear production

[crude pulsar]

Q> i saw something like this on twt, but does passing through like this work? setup looks really clean so i kinda want to replicate

[true parrot]

bro i JUST figured out the flow of production in valley IV, and now they're adding pipes and the requirement of irrigation in wuling and it's driving me nuts bc the things i was just barely starting to understand now no longer work the same 😭

[wispy grove]

YES

[trim star]

if what you're saying is true i have much more than like 200 "stuff" that's outside the main pac from conduit chains and relays and random buildings and stuff and i havent had to deal with 512 even while just trying to space optimize machines

[vapid dock]

Those the sharecode generated always have [blueprintname]code?

[storm garnet]

actually, i think i checked before i made the food setup, i might be closer to 512 now

[trim star]

like idk i held one of my pipes up outside wuling city with like 14 pipe bridges

[pulsar willow]

it's easier to hit because we have a larger 80x80 zone (we have 70x70 in Valley IV) and we also have a stricter structure limit (512 vs 768)

[trim star]

that's why im saying ill hit it when i hit it

[storm garnet]

pipe bridges don't count, they are still on the pipe limit side, not building

[trim star]

so just conveyor logic then

[random estuary]

For the ferrium?
You can split split split down to make some syringe C.... But. Golly will that be not a lot.
Otherwise. All wuling components use xiranite, and if you're capped, you're capped.

[storm garnet]

any pipe logistic type doesn't count, just belt logistic

[trim star]

i see

that makes more sense

[wispy grove]

[storm garnet]

pipe limit is not that high though, so it's better to not go crazy either

[true parrot]

i asked earlier, but i don't know if anyone saw: is there like- a beginner's blueprint or a "just started in wuling" setup to get me going while i figure out how this all works?

[storm garnet]

i tend to put splitters right next to machines to save extra segments

[subtle finch]

#1494628329851064402 message
you can try mine

[crystal sundial]

how to achieve 60/min for xircon with two expanded crucibles?

[wispy grove]

yo, your 15/min expanded crucible is possible

[pulsar willow]

you can't

[storm garnet]

water is wet :P

[pulsar willow]

you need 2 more crucibles to make enough effluent

[pallid canopy]

heeelp

[wispy grove]

if it clogs, its skill issue

[final sierra]

Wuling limits

[crude pulsar]

i take references only, no BPs
thanks tho

[wispy grove]

u need 4 not 2

[storm garnet]

don't loop the water from purification back, just void it

[crystal sundial]

I see, thanks

[delicate seal]

question, what rates are we topping out right now at in terms of final products...? heavy xiranite 6/min, hetonic comps.... ??? parts ??? etc

[storm garnet]

or give it to the food crucible

[trim star]

wack

[wispy grove]

i hate voiding🥀

[storm garnet]

still split it and void it or it will clog

[tribal crescent]

Overworld facilities limit does not count the AIC area right

I can put how many I want in there

[storm garnet]

always void infinite leftovers if possible

[subtle finch]

take the top half only, it's tricky to find a configuration that doesn't clog when you compress it that small
it took some trial and error

[random estuary]

How do you void the purification? Dump it back into the lake?

[storm garnet]

lesson from satisfactory

[true parrot]

bc maybe i'm stupid, but i also just finished trying to fix my valley IV setup and i do NOT have the patience to finagle with wuling PAC just to progress through the story and start getting some kind of stockbill income so i can get to a point where there's a proper reason for me to sit down and draft a blueprint

[storm garnet]

yep

same as water

[true parrot]

also i just- don't have enough power to do anything

[pulsar willow]

🤝

[tribal crescent]

Can we shoot acid from drone

[random estuary]

mine is currently looped back. And I'm worried it will clog later
Wealp. Time to sleep and pray

[tribal crescent]

I may have too many acid bottles

[random estuary]

Bring batteries from Valley IV

[crude pulsar]

yeah i imagine this setup requires you to do some kickstarting or make it pile a little before it being efficient

[storm garnet]

sprinkler is water and xiranite only

[trim star]

yeah i just checked i have like 80 on the limit

[fluid fog]

you mean we can spray?

[trim star]

id be expecting to hit that next patch if there's something crazy dense

otherwise probably not hitting it

[tribal crescent]

Imagine we can do dmg with that

New tech

[trim star]

you unfortunately cant feed the drone with acid

[fluid fog]

that will be fun. Spray the enemy to dead

[vapid dock]

You can put xiranite water in sprinkler?

[storm garnet]

throwing acid at people

[tribal crescent]

Weak ass drone

[fluid fog]

yes, to clear blight spots

[vapid dock]

Does it make plant grow faster

[tribal crescent]

Also what's the test area chat

[vapid dock]

Sprinkler not jet drone

[storm garnet]

the drone one, not the building

[pulsar willow]

isn't available yet

[storm garnet]

building is water only i think

[tribal crescent]

A new zone?

[vapid dock]

Sadge

[fluid fog]

LMAO. I though spray u mean.

[pulsar willow]

yeah I think it's related to the event

[tribal crescent]

12 forges

[storm garnet]

cc accounts have the new zone already, maybe it leaks

[tribal crescent]

Well

Curpium prod sucks either way

[trim star]

it's not really event as much as it is literally just the next area

it is quite literally just the second part of this update

not out yet

[timid gate]

Chat how much hetonite are you guys making?

[tribal crescent]

So whatever this place be it'd better have 9 more veins

[subtle finch]

not at all, you have more acid than what's needed, the issue is sending the acid in the purification unit without it clogging.
since they both run at 75% efficiency this patch. it's tricky to send 1.5 worth of acid out without it clogging
you'll seee what i mean when you try it

[tribal crescent]

And 20 more ferrium

[fluid fog]

around 4.5/m

[real crescent]

0 so far. my time went into ziplines

[timid gate]

Not components, I mean the ore thingy

That's used to make the parts

For the components

[tribal crescent]

There's only cuprium ore

[vapid dock]

22.5

[tribal crescent]

Oh and ferrium too

Everyone like some ferrium

[timid gate]

The mineral thing then

[tribal crescent]

Except there's no new vein

[timid gate]

Hmmm, I'm making 15/min

[tribal crescent]

Uh

Mineral

[fluid fog]

That about right 15/m if you only using 4 lines of cuprium

[timid gate]

This thing bruv

[devout egret]

Avaible on may 14 but its visible if your here in this part of the map, try looking at the direction of the area were the arrow is pointing.

[fluid fog]

other use the extra 2

[storm garnet]

imagine if the new zone changes everything so much we have to remake the factory again

[mighty yacht]

I need to somehow fit 2 more Sandleaf farms and 2 more yahzen farms in this space. I think I'm better off resizing everything lmao

[tribal crescent]

I mean they have to give us sth to use up the new forges

[true parrot]

yeah, i'm hopping back and forth bringing batteries (i know it explained that i can direct transfer up to a certain amount, but bro i forgot the hotkey for that and i spent like 5 minutes clicking on every button in the menu and i just can't find it so uhh- i think the mentally challenged in me has decided that today's a good day to be alive)
but i also just don't have enough sandleaf atm (bc it doesn't really make a difference whether i use sandleaf or buckflower, i still need a lot of carbon)

TLDR: piping is hurting my brain, and i just wanna do the story without worrying about there being nothing producing in the background

[timid gate]

just use sub aic no?

[tribal crescent]

What can i do for 30 xira/min chat

And literally it

[mighty yacht]

I wanna keep this in main

[storm garnet]

i would be happy with just more purity

[tribal crescent]

I suppose there's also 2.5 ferrium/min

[fluid fog]

30 xira of what?

[final sierra]

22.5/min if i stop this components production

[tribal crescent]

Spare output

[upper fiber]

time to drain xira

[random estuary]

Plain? LC battery.

[grave veldt]

Random material hoarding!

[crude pulsar]

oh lmao is this a known bug, the sewage go totally missing

[tribal crescent]

Just xiranite

[storm garnet]

TEA MENTIONED

[mighty yacht]

I'm trying my best,but the conveyor routing is frying me

[upper fiber]

heavy xira

[timid gate]

Is it worth that extra hetonite production? Or the 3 extra syringe A per min I'm making?

[fluid fog]

the 7th xiranite extra? I did make another SC wuling using meta transfer of Dense ori 25/m

[crude pulsar]

successfully converted sewage back to water

[vapid dock]

Can we cheese our way there

[tribal crescent]

Dense originium ?

Damn

Crazy tuff

[subtle finch]

im questioning if 13.25 sc is actually worth going for
the only thing i need for lc is one packaging unit
i need at least an expanded crucible and a treatment unit or purification unit, and packaging unit to make the extra 1.25 sc

[tribal crescent]

How do you manage with 90 ferrium only

[timid gate]

Are you sure you're not clogging?

[crude pulsar]

it doesnt

somehow

[tribal crescent]

Ig you can do 1 sc batt only

[devout egret]

Theres already path going there its just block by a boulder not sure if someone has glitch way into it

[crude pulsar]

oh but if i reroute the sewage output back to the water it fixes itself

but i can replicate it

[vapid dock]

I imagine they raised the invisible wall to infinity

[tribal crescent]

Have to do leek story for this zone right

[upper fiber]

if you using pwm with 2 sc bat, doesn't matter much

[devout egret]

Yup until you defeat nefarith boss it should be avaible for access.

[merry wagon]

run another lc battery line

[frail trail]

what's the new ore cap ?

[subtle finch]

i need breakdown on the power cost to trust this

[trim star]

well remaking the factory is always a given (unless you make every part individually) so it's really just how much they're changing

[fluid fog]

Honestly, both lc and sc doesn't really matter if you only after a balance stock exchange. But I say LC is already good enough with minimal work.

[upper fiber]

1 expanded, 1 puri

[grave veldt]

180 cupium until test zone arena

[trim star]

random new building that does everything

[wild acorn]

i heard one of the plants in wuling is more efficient for carbon cus 1 seed makes 2 plants which one is it and does it need water?

[trim star]

both

you can use either

and yes it needs water

not a very big requirement

[storm garnet]

meanwhile, v4 factory... insert meme of kid drowning