aic-factory

[marble yarrow]

great, extra stash to burn

[dull island]

we dont not have all of the stuff from 1.2

[cedar bay]

I'm already capping out my batteries to be honest they're just a little low right now due to having to rework my base entirely for the new update. Cool little optimisation though. I'm currently Metatransfering Ferrium to make up for the short fall.

[marble yarrow]

next set of +4 forges is on May 15th, which is 2nd half of version 1.2

[hoary crag]

gotta work hard for that 10M chubby lung

[queen bloom]

oh I see. is there a new story accompanying it?

[keen river]

for sure

[marble yarrow]

not sure. maybe not a main story but surely someone will lead us there

[hoary crag]

what do you think is the ideal setup by that time? given the free xircon effluent as well as that since we know the purification ratio

[shell hinge]

How much we lose out on not using metatransfer is currently unknown. It'll take a couple days to hit lvl 3 outpost and find out

It is significantly more efficient to make sc batteries vs yazhen c though

[dull island]

is the point of the new crucible just to save space?

[wispy grove]

4 forges for heavy xira

[hoary crag]

pov: you stockpiled for a lvl 4 outpost that never came

[cedar bay]

Does the new outpost go to level 3 I was thinking it'll cap at level 2.

If goes to level 3 then yeah maybe worth

[shell hinge]

It goes to 3

[marble yarrow]

havent planned yet. but in the next days people might think about it. can also cope about how many effluent will it generate.

2/s cope

[keen river]

im still super far away :<

[shell hinge]

Datamining has found the quest for lvl 3 outpost

[hoary crag]

2/s is insane

I mean tbf they did say we're getting some based on how much sewage is being fed

[civic bone]

guys whats better? 4 hetonite parts? or 9 yazhen A

[thorn axle]

what should be unloaded and etc so that the forge can make heavy xiranite?

[hoary crag]

I think it's gonna be 0.5/s per sewage input

[marble yarrow]

bro they are big facilities, i will destroy them if it wasnt minimum 2/s

[wispy grove]

bro release inert

[south patio]

WHY

[marble yarrow]

single fluid type

[keen river]

its not two conduits, its a single conduit with two pipe inputs

does it even transfer 4/s ?

[hoary crag]

unload inert and send it to a purification unit

[marble yarrow]

yes, it shows in the ui

[wispy grove]

bro u just mixed 2 fluids🥀

[sick whale]

i turned it off rn, but for some reason the water is not strong enough? i use manifold for 7 forge and those 7 forge ONLY, it is connected straight to water

[hoary crag]

how many pumps are you using?

[sick whale]

2?

[hoary crag]

you need 4

[thorn axle]

should I set both of the unloads to inert?

[sick whale]

fuck

[hoary crag]

1 pump = 2 facilities

[dull shard]

For the 2 expanded + 1 purifier [for heavy xiranite] setup when making xircon, do we still need 2 sewage line combined?

[hoary crag]

and then a pipe can hold 2 pumps

so one fully capped conduit manifold can feed all your forges + 1 extra facility

[cedar bay]

Am getting pretty close now hopefully today.

[hoary crag]

well since your reactor's purely for heavy xiranite. you can just directly send the normal xircon effluent to the forge

and then send your inert to waste treatment

[marble yarrow]

3.3hrs

[tepid wigeon]

Gonna get there in a couple hours except I have to sleep in half an hour

💀

[hoary crag]

what purification does is just turn inert xircon effluent into normal xircon effluent anyway, but at a horrible ratio lol

[ruby sorrel]

it's cheap treatment but then you have annoying products to deal with

[quasi locust]

1 purification (50W) replaces 4 water treatment unit (200W), it's pretty good imo

[rich wadi]

zamn lucian brought me here

[toxic mural]

Which pipes go where

[quasi locust]

even when used alone it recovers 1/4 xircon eff line, it's still a good improvement

[rugged gulch]

Sure its a horrible ratio, but if you are running 12 bat/m worth of xircon you are making enough inert to supply your heavy line.

[cedar bay]

Base building kind of went a little over my head in this update to be honest I had to use a blueprint in the end. Since section is a little too complicated I think.

[keen river]

its not even a bad ratio

for each 4 belts of xiranite you get one for free

[rugged gulch]

It is on the better end of recycling stuff. I think the only real one we even have to reuse waste outputs.

[tame quartz]

hihi
is there a way to dispose extra water
water is clogging my purification unit

[carmine trout]

Speaking of that, anyone have tips for ratio management?

[keen river]

just merge it with your input water

or dump back to river

[tame quartz]

ah
didnt know you can do that

[rugged gulch]

Just dump water and acid back in to the source. makes life easier.

[turbid bough]

the factory feels really like "cut in half patch" kind of way.
Not enough cuprium to sustain components.
7xira/1heavy ratio just feels off.

[hoary crag]

lol

we'll see when test area drops

I swear

I want a new ferrium deposit

[rugged gulch]

I don't see them giving us much.

[carmine trout]

Don't we all

[cedar bay]

Clogging was a pig last update. Logged in a few times to power outages because I'd processed too many core machine logged clogged & I stopped producing sewage to power the battery production.

In the end I had to de-couple my power from the battery production just to make sure entire factory didn't shut down in the event of a clog.

[keen river]

but really, people overthink those purification units

just do this and it works

[lean marten]

is it normal to make the new components really slow?

[fluid fog]

slow but good

[rugged gulch]

I make the new compenent faster then i do the other two final ones.

[turbid bough]

short answer: yes

[warm oriole]

heto is really expensive so yes

[upper fiber]

long answer : yeah

[young stag]

im finally burning through my stocks

[cedar bay]

Yep you're kind of supposed to make only 1 copy of the new gear then use the original gear to artifice it. It's a good job I made so many of these back in 1.0

[marble yarrow]

my most hated section lmaoo

[sick whale]

i hate plant a bit more, since this part is just copy paste

[cedar bay]

That's my disk lineup rn soon I think I'll stop making the new disks as they're no use for artifcing purposes anyway cost too many Wulling credits to create each gear piece.

[valid gazelle]

Eh its not that bad

[deft orbit]

Build it on the SubPAC so you can make it look like a V6 engine xD

[valid gazelle]

Yo that's sick

[marble yarrow]

bro has V12 engine

[unreal laurel]

idk what i did

i got this 38x21 fat ferrium tho

[marble yarrow]

3x forge

[unreal laurel]

is this a good size?

[unreal laurel]

its for a heavy

i just called it fat cause same thing

[marble yarrow]

yeah it is, since you can fit that 2 times in an outpost

[unreal laurel]

how many heavy is optimal anyways?

[marble yarrow]

wait lmao 1 forge is for heavy

i just realized

[unreal laurel]

whut

[hollow stone]

is there way to guarante that cuprium will be consumed?

[unreal laurel]

you dont connect 2 forges into a 3rd for heavy?

[hollow stone]

so i dont run out of waste

[marble yarrow]

most people do 1 heavy forge, and rest for xiranite, but sometimes you can do 2 heavy forge

[unreal laurel]

so 3 for heavy,5 for normal

1 being 3

[marble yarrow]

you can, that bp is still usable

[marble yarrow]

yeah yeah

[unreal laurel]

youre making it sound like theres a better way.....

[keen river]

btw, is it just me

or the menus are super slow in this version

[unreal laurel]

stop worrying me.....

[keen river]

even opening the map takes like 4+ seconds

[cedar bay]

I really hope 1.3 doesn't come with a new component to craft new gear to be honest. I'm starting to grow a bit tired of that design.

[marble yarrow]

lmaoo no, its just because i placed 6 xiranite forges in an outpost and they are on their own

the other 2 forge i just play with it in the main aic

[unreal laurel]

which step of the process is xircon effluent btw?

i still need to pipe that into it

[marble yarrow]

you need 1 expanded crucible for that

sewage+water+xiranite input
inert out to treatment
then effluent out that you can use for heavy forge

[lament token]

what is max cuprium ore yield/min rn?

[unreal laurel]

whats the expanded crucible for?

atp im considering having this fat xiranite be in the main

[unreal laurel]

the 2 sub pacs can probably house smth else

[marble yarrow]

its an 8-slot crucible, normally you would need 2 normal reactors to create xircon effluent. you can compact it by doing this, at same power usage

[keen river]

i wonder if next map will come with some copium mining spots

[unreal laurel]

so the cuprium stuff from last patch is now more efficient

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

harunachan i need your help again

[fluid fog]

it is just me or the heavy xiranite has more flame.

[cedar bay]

I have absolutely no idea what's going on there but I'll pass.

[unreal laurel]

just to be clear,the byproduct from one recipe is being used by the other recipe right?

[young stag]

making effluent/xircon in one reactor

[wispy grove]

im so confused in my graph

[young stag]

yea because it’s heavy

[unreal laurel]

its just fat

[young stag]

[unreal laurel]

call it fat xiranite

[young stag]

yes

[lament token]

btw what is the is the thing we can get?

[marble yarrow]

yeah. since the first product from one formula stays inside, the 2nd formula can use it

[young stag]

you don’t need to feed it with sewage

[unreal laurel]

why couldnt the regular reactor do that

i couldve sworn it had the slots

[keen river]

it only had 5 slots

[marble yarrow]

you need 6 slots for single xircon effluent production

[unreal laurel]

ic

[keen river]

not enough to do anything really

[cedar bay]

Sorry I'm not sure what you mean.

[rugged gulch]

So, while you would think you don't need sewage coming in. I've noticed that if you do the whole line in one expanded it somehow eats the sewage.

[marble yarrow]

what u doin bro

[lament token]

oh srry i mean product that we produce from the current wuling fac

[cedar bay]

Ah click the big yellow button on the bottom right.

[edgy grotto]

this thing need 4 crucible to full run ? or there better way ?

[void owl]

there is only 1 ew region right?

[valid gazelle]

8 i think..

Ah my bad

[lament token]

oh ok, im not asking that but thanks

[unreal laurel]

now i just need to find an efficient way to cram in 5 regular xiranites

[valid gazelle]

4 for each purifier

So 8 in total

[edgy grotto]

8 for hetonite right ? that expanded cant reduce this ?

[red shoal]

how many pumps can 1 pipeline handle again? 3?

[rugged gulch]

Need 4, but you can also do pass through with both liquid and items to make the build more compact.

[valid gazelle]

No.. cuz you need 2 hetonite, and each hetonites needs 4 to purify

[pulsar cypress]

2 per pipe..

[unreal laurel]

btw,whats the optimal production rn?

[cedar bay]

I guess mean the best production with our resources we can create right now then. The answer for that one is TBC once the new outpost gets to level 3 we might need more battery production. So my base would need to be edited a bit.

[woeful elm]

is there a way to switch which side inputs water because i an NOT stretching a pipe all the way to the other side

[fluid fog]

there no other way, you need 4 cuprium line to do 1 hetonite

[edgy grotto]

[clear agate]

for making SC batteries if i dont login for like a week wont the cuprium build-up and clog the factory causing no sewage to be made then no SC baterries and then no power to whole factory?

[pulsar cypress]

Use 6.. (3 each purifier)
Thats max rn..
6 x 30/mins = 180

[wheat forum]

8 Cuprium belts to do 1 full belt of Hetonite but we can only have 6 belts FTTB

[unreal laurel]

bruh

[cedar bay]

I mean I guess but the essence of a game like this is to log-in daily anyway especially with the free monthly pass.

[marble yarrow]

most people do 12/min SC, and they are using 180/min of cuprium all-in for 22.5/min of hetonite. also 6/min heavy xiranite.

then you have 2 choice for the remaining ferrium either

1. you meta storage ferrium so you can craft C-tier meds
2. you meta storage dense originium and craft either LC or SC since you will have 30/min extra xiranite

[unreal laurel]

these combined bp's mkae it impossible to compare individual size

[edgy grotto]

what is fttb

[clear agate]

true okay thanks just wanted to be sure im not missing any way to get rid of cuprium

[wheat forum]

For The Time Being

[ornate sorrel]

this should render this running at quarter speed right?

[unreal laurel]

is there no clean way to use everything?

[woeful elm]

pls help im really stuck surely there is some way to switch the sewage and water pipes right

[edgy juniper]

Wtf do I do with acid coming from my crucible

[ornate sorrel]

wait oh no, cuz it only needs 2 of them at a time i need to even splitter this harder

bruhhhhhhhh

[pulsar cypress]

Unfortunately nope. Pipe in and out are fixed.

[unreal laurel]

make an acid pond to jump in

[ornate sorrel]

are tgere any BiS hetonite gear atm?

[rugged gulch]

fluid supply unit, dump it back in the acid pond.

[wispy grove]

9.8/min SC Battery
3/min Heavy Xiranite.
1.5/min xira comp(use dense orig meta transfer)
1.5/min cuprium comp
1.5/min heto comp
0.75/yazhen syringe C
2.25/min Yazhen A
compute this for me

[shell hinge]

Welp, I've maxed out my wuling protocol capacity

Somehow

I blame conduits

[unreal laurel]

whats the hetonite for anyways?

[hoary crag]

and then there's purification units where you also can't control which fluid goes where

[unreal laurel]

how

i barely designed a fraction of my aic

[pulsar cypress]

Oh yass.. That annoying one..

[rapid hedge]

possible higher yazhen syringe
there's a recipe for hetonite bottle

you can also sell hetonite parts for 48 creds

[unreal laurel]

how do i make componentss for gear crafting if im using everything on selling goods

do i kill the production somewhere to make components?

[ornate sorrel]

is heto part income that miserable? stuck at 3/min at best

[valid gazelle]

This is super annoying

[cedar bay]

I just noticed this is going to be a problem for me no?

[valid gazelle]

Even that, your copium is crying at 3/min

[marble yarrow]

bro i swear. they put the colored outlet indicators for nothing

[cedar bay]

Better make some I guess.

[unreal laurel]

why

[silent violet]

torturing myself because hg decided to make pipes over belt crossings valid but not pipe crossings over belts

[wispy grove]

yes, youll ran out within 1h 25 min

[unreal laurel]

yoooo

i need your opinion on smth

[wispy grove]

oh nvm

wrong math

[silent violet]

wsp

[pulsar cypress]

Just use the remaining free..
Like mine, just 1/min without disrupting the pre updates design much.

[unreal laurel]

hows this

[rugged gulch]

arn't all the components pretty slow to make. I capped my other two at like 0.5/min, new one is running at 1/min for now.

[quasi locust]

it's colour coded??

[silent violet]

looks good, 60/min xira right?

[wispy grove]

youll ran out within 16 hrs

[quasi locust]

looks like discoloured plastic

[silent violet]

whats the footprint

[unreal laurel]

its heavy(fat)

[valid gazelle]

Its 6 per components for the older ones

[unreal laurel]

38x21

[rugged gulch]

sure you could make them that fast but then you have nothing to sell.

[silent violet]

oh 60 xira + the heavy forge

yeah nice

[unreal laurel]

can we rename heavy xiranite to fat?

[unreal laurel]

hows the size?

[upper fiber]

and get sued

[silent violet]

looks good

[marble yarrow]

switcheroooo

[unreal laurel]

you think i can get it smaller?

[valid gazelle]

But its not tho. Cuz i sold t2 batteries

[silent violet]

i think its possible yeah

[valid gazelle]

And they pile up all the time

[unreal laurel]

how.....

[silent violet]

things like this kind of planter setup are kind of space inefficient

[unreal laurel]

the belt footprint on this thing is already so small.....

[cedar bay]

I guess the easy solution is just to split this into two belts it's only going to slow the production of the old syringe anyway.

[unreal laurel]

indeed

[candid wadi]

what do we do with extra xiranite at this point in update? If component is not much of a requirement. I mean 4x xiranite for sc wuling, 2x xiranite for 1xheavy xiranite forge and that leaves us with 1x xiranite forge production. (I know more things will be unlocked in May/)

[fathom viper]

WHy is the sewage part not working?

[unreal laurel]

maybe can shave off 1-2 off a side with better orientation or placement

[wispy grove]

maybe

[silent violet]

try to avoid doing anything except these 3 setups

[wispy grove]

clear it

[valid gazelle]

Your copium is clogging

You cope too much

[silent violet]

there may be very fringe cases where another setup is needed but usually its always best to use one of those 2, and the third in specific cases where you need a 6 wide planter setup

[wispy grove]

haruna chan help

[distant bear]

how the fuck are you capped on cuprium on current patch

[ornate sorrel]

guess i'll have to live with 1,5 per min heto part income cuz im splitting between getting heto parts and component

[valid gazelle]

Its not enough

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-this-is-a-cry-for-help-help-help-me-lord-help-me-gif-1631346409026690561

[distant bear]

yeah it should be 0

[marble yarrow]

show

[quasi locust]

wow i like your setup. one thing i would change is to swap water treatment unit with purification unit in heavy mode

[wispy grove]

9.8/min SC Battery
3/min Heavy Xiranite.
1.5/min xira comp(use dense orig meta transfer)
1.5/min cuprium comp
1.5/min heto comp
0.75/yazhen syringe C
2.25/min Yazhen A
compute this for me

[marble yarrow]

yeah true

[unreal laurel]

the main problem with my placement is the orange sector

its as close to packed as possible but leaves a 6tile spot that cant really be shortened

[small creek]

guys

[silent violet]

another tip with xira setups is try to get the forge water input on top of a belt thats being used for smth else

[small creek]

will the purification unit stop working if the water clogs

[keen river]

was this map always there or is it new 🤔

[wispy grove]

yes

[silent violet]

having to waste a whole row of space on just water input is a waste

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

[silent violet]

try to double purpose

[small creek]

oh my fucking god bruh

So i actually have to dump it back

[unreal laurel]

thats why they run the same edge as the planter duper

[marble yarrow]

actually not lost, but +1 SC saved

[granite sentinel]

Is there a list of required liquid inputs anywhere? I heard a recipe that needs sewage only needs 15 and cuprium sewage is 30 so 2 can be used

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-angry-shoutung-audience-gif-6719932157024605067

[wary vine]

How many Heavy Xiranite forges do we need? all 4?
Edit: 😭 I'm trying to plan ahead sorry

[keen river]

im using one 😅

[unreal laurel]

is mine not doing that?

ive always used the 1tile line left by plant dupers for my water

[wispy grove]

to make 1 heavy. u need 4 forges, 3 for xira and 1 for the heavy

how?

[marble yarrow]

guys what outpost level is the tower defense thing (wait was there any in power plateau)

[wispy grove]

wel

[cunning obsidian]

any ideas on making this fit?

[unreal laurel]

no

just a quest abt middle management beefing

[wispy grove]

dont connect the water from purifier to the water pip of the conduit

[ornate sorrel]

i use 2 + 1 forge for heavy xira, 4 for wuling batter, and i use the leftover forge to produce xiranite to funnel it for xiranite comp to restock on those

am i doing this right

[small creek]

whar

Im trying to repurpose the extra water for ecofarm

[jaunty siren]

Are these 2 the only new nodes in the new map, or do I need to progress the story to unlock more of them?

[wispy grove]

ohh

sad

[wary vine]

Ohhh i misread the formula... ops

[keen river]

only those two groups

[small creek]

Idk how to do it without purify crying like a bitch

[cedar bay]

Maybe this is an easier cheat I'm meta transferring Ferrium anyway. I'll see how it works out.

[small creek]

oh wait i know

[wispy grove]

you just looped the other belt back to the aic

[unreal laurel]

where did leander go?

[upper fiber]

new conduit still 200m?

[wispy grove]

yeh

[unreal laurel]

i wanted to have a talk abt size management

[unreal laurel]

halo

[upper fiber]

need 3 conduit then to wuling city...

[small creek]

nope i just realized the water will just self clog

purifier WHY

[unreal laurel]

wtf are you doing

[small creek]

Im actually gonna turn off the ecofarm for this patch because of this

[unreal laurel]

are we running a water relay?

[upper fiber]

suffer the pain, who the one asked for treatment has water as output

[jovial breach]

I turned off my farm since last patch lol

[unreal laurel]

i never unlocked the farm

[jovial breach]

Im not gonna use all 200 ginseng in a least a year

[unreal laurel]

skill issue

[upper fiber]

bringing the acid to city

[wispy grove]

bro just put the water back to the pool4

[upper fiber]

i wanna explode the conduit later

[wispy grove]

have you tried entering here?

[jaunty siren]

No, not yet. I just unlocked the new AIC base

[upper fiber]

yeah 2 new spots

4 rigs

[unreal laurel]

WHY

just run all your acid stuff in the sub pac

[upper fiber]

.

[unreal laurel]

you can do that?

[small creek]

i know

thats what im doing already

its so sad

[unreal laurel]

lemme in on that action

[fervent lodge]

this would stop me if i could read

[upper fiber]

gonna try throwing bomb later

[pseudo basin]

use filling unit to package acid, separate it in wuling

[silent violet]

lol

[small creek]

this is what losers do with purification unit water (me)

[upper fiber]

that's 40 power and eat space

[silent violet]

at least use something like this
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464226275282653397

that shit hurts my eyes and i usually dont even care about aesthetics

[wispy grove]

unless, youll use water loop

[cedar bay]

Fixed only issue is this now.......

[pseudo basin]

yea but its not like you use 100% of wuling rn, i have lots of empty space in my wuling aic

[cedar bay]

[small creek]

what is that

sounds gay

[wispy grove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[cedar bay]

Meta transfer will fix most of it so hopefully it just slows my old syringe production down & doesn't mess with anything else.

[wispy grove]

bruh

[fervent lodge]

i hate planters i hate planters i hate planters i hate planters

[small creek]

say planters really really fast

[fervent lodge]

tersplant

[quasi locust]

[signal reef]

man i was hoping it'll go higher

[fervent lodge]

ngl this is peak and can grow like a tumor outwards

centerpiece of my subpac

[small creek]

Is this advanced windmill

thanks i hate it

[jovial breach]

Real shit

[signal reef]

not much change in lvl 2 outpost but at least they allow you to trade SC wulings

[small creek]

real shit as in its really shit

[fervent lodge]

wdym it's great

peak density

[small creek]

its great but like

fuck brah

[fervent lodge]

the sheer mental effort of deciding which seeder will go to which planter

i like it tho, because you can seed it from just 2 places

[marble yarrow]

BRAH

[jovial breach]

Finally sc

[small creek]

I must get lv2 before i sleep

[cobalt dagger]

is this viable?

[small creek]

please

[signal reef]

oh right how could i forget

[unreal laurel]

can one of yall help me think abt some theoritical stuff

[fervent lodge]

must be nice, I dumped all my yazhen yesterday without assigning fangyi to it

😭

[jovial breach]

Lmao truly shit

[small creek]

6k more, not bad

[unreal laurel]

?

[jovial breach]

Dont ask to ask

[small creek]

Lebron what are u doing :smfh:

[void owl]

where is the xiranite coming from?

[small creek]

The xiranite is coming from over there

[marble yarrow]

@wispy grove

[wispy grove]

wtf happened

[signal reef]

8400/h base

[distant bear]

oh

[void owl]

i mean, no recipes in the crucible uses xiranite

[small creek]

Is this max heto + LC batt

[distant bear]

the gourd craft is on yituliu

[marble yarrow]

cardiac level 2

[fervent lodge]

wait this made me realize
output buffer is separate 💀

[prisma hound]

they 100% edge us on heavy xiranite u realistically can only get one heavy xiranite production line 💀

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-aughhh-gif-24532719

[void owl]

why only one?

[jovial breach]

[small creek]

Guess we cant bankrupt wuling anymore...

[prisma hound]

it takes 3 xiranite output for one heavy xiranite production (and 4 furnace total)

[small creek]

TT finally got out of poverty

Now we will poverty

[prisma hound]

u already use 2 xiranite for the batteries setup

[unreal laurel]

how can i make this smaller?
the issue is that with how the orange sector is organised,it has no room for change which leaves an awkward 6 high sector thats too big for the remaining stuff

[prisma hound]

so realistically u only get to have one heavy xiranite setup

thats so ass

[distant bear]

[upper fiber]

new outpost no early defense?

[marble yarrow]

with one heavy setup it lets me accumulate xiranite for 1.5 days, then i will burn the stock for half a day

[fervent lodge]

from who

[unreal laurel]

any of yall wanna help me with my problem?

[jovial breach]

wait so we are living on stockpiled sc battery because the outposts outproduce us now
?

[upper fiber]

you

[fervent lodge]

too late, already put evil planters there

[distant bear]

@silent violet where the bp smhsmhsmh

[fervent lodge]

but yeah, no def

[upper fiber]

evil guy selling bottled sewage

[small creek]

We saw it, just wait for someone naturally interested

[prisma hound]

i dont wanna annoyingly refill a battery for the "emergency no electricity" period so nah im not risking dat

[fervent lodge]

which i didn't even notice before you mentioned this

[prisma hound]

i like comfy stuff 💤

[fervent lodge]

they really dropped that gamemode

[marble yarrow]

you can sell your hetonite parts and still catch up

[silent violet]

still testing it

[prisma hound]

they should remove it ngl

[silent violet]

but it looks like its done

[small creek]

Nah they just dont add it in every outpost

[unreal laurel]

did you?
you and some other ppl joined later so i wasnt sure

[fervent lodge]

they should topdown it and allow in-battle placement then it's 100% fixed

[distant bear]

we love finishing event day 1

[unreal laurel]

halo

[jovial breach]

then what was that calc ?

[prisma hound]

and heavily increase the placement limit for the defense stuff

[unreal laurel]

mind clarifying what you were saying earlier?

[silent violet]

im probably the only person in the world who actually cares but the engineering on this side was very nice

[marble yarrow]

for Miko, they dont sell the hetonite and go comps instead

[silent violet]

bet youve never seen a double passthrough before

[jovial breach]

what if i use half of the heto parts for comp

[void owl]

is there any alteratives to syringe A? its eating all my copium

[distant bear]

i meant for the event gourd

[upper fiber]

don't make themm

[marble yarrow]

i even removed yazhen C

(this is lv2 cardiac outpost)

[silent violet]

wait what

[jovial breach]

use all cupium for hetonite

[distant bear]

a

[cedar bay]

Love how much these things tidy up factory building to be honest.

[marble yarrow]

chonk pipe

[small creek]

is it possible to have 12/min SC batt and heto comp in 1 subpac

[south patio]

Oh my god setting up these new components is nuts, I need 4 things for Cuprium Powder and Solution

[silent violet]

lmao no

[small creek]

Yea didnt seem like it

[silent violet]

i had the same idea and the answer was definitely no

[small creek]

Hmmmm

[upper fiber]

embrace pipes no conduit

[edgy juniper]

Is there a way to change the output ports on the purification machine? As in to swap which one releases acid

[small creek]

Im done with everything else, just need heto comp/parts now

[valid gazelle]

Unfortunately

[edgy juniper]

...

[grizzled sphinx]

I fricken love the new expanded crucibles!!!

[valid gazelle]

Ye..

[silent violet]

join the packaging unpackaging revolution

[small creek]

12/min SC batt + 6/min heavy xiranite in main pac

[edgy juniper]

Oh there is?

[small creek]

Now i need heto

[marble yarrow]

have you seen the pipe god

[edgy juniper]

How do I do it??

[distant bear]

[small creek]

oh hell nah 😭 😭

[valid gazelle]

You can't lol

[unreal laurel]

just to clarify,is the optimal production confirmed or being deliberated

[void owl]

sow the god

[jovial breach]

can someone do the math for me how long do i need to wait

[jovial breach]

i think it's like 3 hours

[marble yarrow]

soon™

[unreal laurel]

4ish hrs

[upper fiber]

when you wake up, it will be done

[south patio]

are you okay

[small creek]

nah man u aint boutta catch me lackin

[unreal laurel]

is the new patch rly that messy?

[cedar bay]

6500000 hours.

[silent violet]

its lowkey goated join the revolution

[small creek]

500 cigarettes

[unreal laurel]

i hate when that happens

[silent violet]

otherwise you have to split your cuprium refining between main and sub

which is ass

[small creek]

that is what im doing lmao

[distant bear]

this is just a pain in the ass why hetonite

[silent violet]

it can be

[small creek]

all the cuprium ready to go

[upper fiber]

do you even need that much acid

[unreal laurel]

ill find a way to make it clean

unlike the abominations yall cook

[small creek]

Im also in favor of this method isntead of bottling acid because separator consumes power

[south patio]

THERES MORE

[silent violet]

have you heard of the single responsibility princible?

[small creek]

Nope

[jovial breach]

i have cupium shredder in main aic and hetonite line in marker subpac

[marble yarrow]

join the dark side

main AIC hetonite

[sick whale]

what do yall use your extra xirenite for?

[silent violet]

very important to follow modularity rules

[unreal laurel]

HELLL NO

[south patio]

Why do you have extra

[small creek]

I dont even know if i wanna make a modular bp for this patch anymore

[jovial breach]

lc battery with metastorage ori cube

[small creek]

Acid got me fkd up

[upper fiber]

10 for sc bat, the rest keep till a lot and make heavy xiranite

[silent violet]

u manually piped acid?

[small creek]

Atp im just tryna survive

[silent violet]

thats even more cooked than using packager unpackager

[south patio]

I cant purify or treatment it away, im going to die

[sick whale]

8 forge
7 is to make normal xirenite (6 is used to make battery + heavy xirenite)
1 forge to make the heavy

[marble yarrow]

i did

[silent violet]

gg

[sick whale]

crazy

[void owl]

does the crucibers produce the hetonite poweder as by products?

[south patio]

[signal reef]

if that unlimited acid pool at the start of the new area isn't the sign idk what is, definitely trying to make it easier for people to pipe it all the way to AIC

[silent violet]

why not just use manifolds

[signal reef]

even got the new manifolds lol

[distant bear]

[sick whale]

10? how? i want to make gear

i dont want to make more SC

[cedar bay]

Yours is quite neat mine looks like it was built by a chimp.

[quasi locust]

i have fit everything cuprium and sewage in the new subpac. i am 2 pipes away from the pipe limit

[jovial breach]

something fucked up

[upper fiber]

not like you have extra for other part....

cuprium is limited

[south patio]

I just tried to piece together the free blueprints and its not going well

[upper fiber]

hetonite.... heh

[marble yarrow]

for a colorful environment

[sick whale]

no, i want to make xiranite comp not the cuprium

[upper fiber]

then make it...

meta transfer dense ori

[solid quiver]

peak unemployment

[silent violet]

bro took the scenic route making 2 separate lines from different sources

[jovial breach]

real shit i ran out of sandleaf in all things

[upper fiber]

how dare you

[solid quiver]

2-3k distance filled with pipes each measures of 100m?

[upper fiber]

sandleaf god won't forgive you 😠

[marble yarrow]

hax

[void owl]

is 1 acid pump reaklly enough for 4 crucibles?

[jovial breach]

2 pumps

actually 1 and a half pump

[drifting compass]

It's getting so tiring

[cedar bay]

I mean there's no issue with the occasional acid leak I suppose.

[drifting compass]

Having to redo your own factory every new update

[south patio]

Is there an actual use for the new conduits yet, I feel like the normal conduits are enough for everything we have right now

[simple aspen]

but factory is fun :<
remember to use expanded crucible since it can process xircon singlehandedly

[cedar bay]

It took me about 5-6 hours to get everything setup this time was quite a big process mostly of trial an error.

[simple aspen]

wrong one :^)

[south patio]

Problem is that 1 doesnt produce enough to 100% an SC Batt

[void owl]

isnt this supposed to be a hemotite & heavy xiratite factory? why is the heavy xiranite part not working?

[sick whale]

how much does meta transfer per min?

and is it possible to make gear comp (xirenite one not coprium) with it but DONT FUCK the battery production?

[storm junco]

Idk if this solve the stop producing in week problem.. but what if we transfer big yahzen needle to V4

[fervent lodge]

I've come to the conclusion that the new reactor is doing Too Much. It should never have been made

[south patio]

Is it getting the Xircon it needs?

[fervent lodge]

ACME (AMME) that is a bitch to debug

[simple aspen]

er, yes, because it can produce 13.25/min SC battery

[void owl]

how do i produce it?

[young stag]

good enough for a processing line?

[void owl]

i made some adjustments, and may have messd that part up

[drifting compass]

Is there even a point in updating factory

If you don't pull for Zhuang

[void owl]

heavy xiraite for nre region stock bills

[marble yarrow]

bro trying to justifying playtime

[sick whale]

anyone?

[storm junco]

Wth is this?

[south patio]

How many Expanded Crucibles do you have making Xircon

[young stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954928564749369367/1467871494712332473/attachment.gif

[drifting compass]

We already get crazy amounts from Qingbo Stockade honestly

[signal reef]

there's an empty pipe input kinda going nowhere, was this connected to sewage

[young stag]

what does that have to do with the aic

[drifting compass]

Honestly I spent the last two hours remaking factory but you know what

I'm getting back my 1.1 blueprints that shit was better

[storm junco]

How many forge can we have now?

[south patio]

I really dont want to tear everything down 😭

[young stag]

inert back into normal effluent

[void owl]

i unplugged it cause i need to move my sewagemakers to main AIC cuase of SC bat production...

can i have a stand alone BP just for the heavy xir that takes in swage?\

[drifting compass]

That's the whole factory loop in this game sadly 😭😭

[stray jasper]

What are the disadvantages of a pipe splitter, and how close is it to being like a (ground) splitter?

[fervent lodge]

you contend with your bad architectural decisions in the face of new requirements

[storm junco]

What the point of double inlet?

[young stag]

there are none

[fervent lodge]

and this makes you appreciate place-and-forget modules

[void owl]

when you need 2x 2x unit per sec inputs

[simple aspen]

5
one off screen

[young stag]

plus you don’t have to take a ss of a splitter, we all know what that is

[storm junco]

U still need 2 pump?

[fervent lodge]

i started centralizing my liquids via out-of-bounds fluid tanks with overflows on each

[stray jasper]

Really??? So i doesnt actually create gaps like the land splitter?

[young stag]

why would one need that much xircon

[drifting compass]

Yo chat btw I know there's a way to pause energy consumption how do you do it

[young stag]

what gaps

[void owl]

its more of a QOL

[drifting compass]

I need it to remake factory

[storm junco]

So one pump connected to double inlet?

[keen river]

well, it does have one disadvantage compared to belt splitter, you cant put belts under it

but you can put pipes over belt splitter

[fervent lodge]

either just throw some batteries into standalone banks while you work, or go into pylons and click off one by one

[simple aspen]

to make 13.25/min SC battery while still also making all 3 components at the same time and have excess xiranite and hetonite and yazhen A

[fervent lodge]

or use the planner before razing everything

[drifting compass]

Didn't they say in the livestream they added a setting to temporarily make your base not need energy?

[fervent lodge]

this is next patch

[drifting compass]

fuck dude.

[fervent lodge]

just throw 50 batteries it'll last you a while

[signal reef]

@void owl your best solution is actually to make xircon with triple reactions with 1 single expanded crucible, look at the quote i am replying to as an example, idea is if you can actually make xircon easily you can just use stashes or pipe it back to your AIC and you don't have to deal with all the problems of making sure your sewage has to be at the same spot as your battery makers

[south patio]

Alright guys how is my solution for the extra acid

[storm junco]

Everyday got 200 pull xD

[young stag]

doesn’t 12/m only use 2 expanded crucibles

[fervent lodge]

clogs and you're ded

[young stag]

piss storage

[stray jasper]

I was worried pipe splitters might have a limit, like the flow slows down or water decreases the more it’s divided. Do you know if that happens?

[storm junco]

Oil

[south patio]

Just gotta put a copy down, delete the old one and move the copy 🗣️

[signal reef]

once you get all the xircon makers together you can output all their inert effluents into a purifcation unit and then essentially make a free line of xircon effluent

[young stag]

if you split one single pipe enough times yeah

[storm junco]

Can u kill agelos in acid solution?

[fervent lodge]

shame you can't pipe the acid into sprinkler to sprinkle it in the atmosphere

[south patio]

How the hell are you making Cryston bottles in Wuling, are there some Amethyst nodes further in the story?

[young stag]

there isn’t any

[fervent lodge]

you have a backpack 🔥

go on dijiang and start shoveling

[south patio]

[stray jasper]

Usually if you split water into 3 using splitter, what are the effects afterwards? Like...does the capacity get lower? Flow rate drops?

[pseudo rivet]

so is there an actual solution for the excess acid after making hetonite?

[young stag]

flow rate drops, since one pipe can only do 2/s

[stray jasper]

So it does drop flow rate...

[south patio]

Use it to make Liquid Heavy Xiranite

[stray jasper]

I didnt know thats possible

[hollow brook]

Outpost 2 Sell List & Earnings Efficiency btw.
There is no l3 yet.

[wispy grove]

yow yow

[pseudo rivet]

didnt think of that, tysm

[storm junco]

Can we turn acid back to cuprium solution?

[wispy grove]

help me again

[fervent lodge]

you can put 120/m of fluid into 1 pipe
pump pumps 60/m
you can pump 2 pumps into 1 pipe, then split it to 4 consumers and it'll work great, because they generally want 30/m only

[signal reef]

nah we brought that shit over from v4

[south patio]

if you run it back to the start of the production line with the rest yeah

[stray jasper]

Only 2/s....explain? How does the 2/s flow connect to the split

[candid wadi]

using extra xiranite for more sc wuling batteries and to burn through dense originium and ferrium powder. Dont know for how long but I got 68k dense originium lol.. it ups my production to 13 or 14 per minute.

[simple aspen]

the extra 2 isn't to make xircon, it's to offset the "weakness" of using single expanded crucible for entire xircon line
use this screenshot to work it out :^)

[storm junco]

Do this add infinite cuprium?

[young stag]

ohh wait so it’s the same setup as mine

2 making xircon and 2 making effluent yes?

[wispy grove]

9.8 SC
4.5 heavy xira
5.25 yazhen A
1.125 yazhen C
@marble yarrow what about this?

[storm junco]

Is there a way to turn acid into sewage?

[marble yarrow]

i actually give it to another reactor for 15/min, then another source for the 15/min. since im using the converger, it uses exactly what the purifying unit gives

[signal reef]

@south patio whole original reason we did this even was that there was speculation cryston bottles were being used in 1.1 onwards since there wasn't any recipes, except now it's 1.2 and we got cuprium and still nothing was using cryston

[young stag]

you actually don’t even need that much sewage once you unlock the expanded crucibles

[storm junco]

If we can turn acid into sewage we dont need cuprium anymore

[simple aspen]

yes, because everyone know that single expanded crucible will be 1/s xircon effluent short
so why not using another to "pad" it? while also wink wink getting something else off of it

[signal reef]

so yeah i am looking kinda stupid rn hoarding these

[storm junco]

Dont we need hc wuling battery?

[south patio]

I set up Cryston Bottle production in V4 because I had nothing better to do there

[cedar bay]

Hurry up.

[fervent lodge]

Am I stupid? I don't get why this operates at a surplus of Effluent

that fluid tank is getting full

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-crying-crying-mario-stairs-gif-20008055

[fervent lodge]

isn't it 2/s production of effluent

[storm junco]

Is there a battery update

[signal reef]

surely it's enough to last until you maxed out components with -36/h lol

[stray jasper]

This takes a while for me to absorb this. Ty. Ill try to math this all

[young stag]

it’s self sustaining

[shell hinge]

I hope we get better batteries in test area, I'm already having to turn things off to stay below 6600 power

[storm junco]

I dun understand what this do

[void owl]

cam i pipe acid to my AIC and then use it in my main base?

[granite sentinel]

Okay so pipes can carry 8/s but can only output 2/s?

[fervent lodge]

i will soon have to deprecate my Valley 4 battery line...

[young stag]

do the expanded crucible tutorial

[young stag]

how are you using so much

[signal reef]

before 1.2 in order to make xircon you need 3 crucibles, 1 to make liquid xiranite, 1 to make effluent, 1 to make the actual xircon

with 1.2 you can do all of this in just 1 single expanded crucible

[quasi locust]

more like pumps can only do 0.5/s. pipe still max out at 2/s

[wispy grove]

HC battery, 300/min orig and uses xircon as ingredient for a bigger material

[fervent lodge]

Maybe this makes it easier to think - a pipe can transfer a droplet of material every 500 milliseconds

So in 2 seconds it can take/transfer/discharge 4 droplets

[shell hinge]

Probably due to building for future updates

[young stag]

why even futureproof your aic

it’s not even possible

[sonic summit]

BTW if the developed lvl of wuling is 12 can i meta storage from wuling too?

[signal reef]

yeah lol

[storm junco]

I see

[shell hinge]

My setup it designed for 12 forges, up to 120/min xircon, 12/min heavy xiranite, 6/min xiranite jade gourd

[signal reef]

i had to kinda dismantle a lot of my 1.1 setups

[marble yarrow]

bro is pre-ordering the future playtime

[bright zodiac]

you think its gonna be THAT EASY? nahhh....

[jovial breach]

[bright zodiac]

[signal reef]

but there'll always be a spot for xiranite makers

[storm junco]

So no more 5 forge?

[bright zodiac]

[shell hinge]

It is when devs announce what's coming and people have datamined recipes

[young stag]

5 down to 2

for me at least

[granite sentinel]

Ohhh, I see why pipes were confusing me, I was thinking that 2/s was the same as belt speed which is 1/2s

[wispy grove]

pipes are just 4x faster than belts

[sonic summit]

yeah its 4 time capacity

[fervent lodge]

Yeah. It's counterintuitive when you do like /m, /s, per item, flow rate, etc

So I just think in terms of ticks

[shell hinge]

I think my base is mostly complete, but I need to research pathfinding based priority to see if I can achieve something specific

[fervent lodge]

pipe tick - 0.5s
belt tick - 2s

pump tick - 1s

[outer bramble]

more confusing

[bright zodiac]

[rapid hedge]

tf why is it maxed at 2???

[shell hinge]

My goal rn is to stockpile hetonite while also making hetonite parts at full speed

[granite sentinel]

It's a miracle my 1.1 factory is running

[shell hinge]

Have you done the quest?

[fervent lodge]

yes

else it would show le orange

[bright zodiac]

bcs the elder is still capped at lv3

respect the elder

[sonic summit]

man....they realy drip feed us huh

[rapid hedge]

ugh lv3 is quest locked?

[shell hinge]

Every upgrade on every outpost is quest locked no?

[drifting compass]

Alright done I remade my 1.1 factory

[signal reef]

if there's any more quests then sure but there isn't

[rapid hedge]

yes but I just got level 2 from 1

[signal reef]

lvl 2 is the max from what i can see

[rapid hedge]

it's the new outpost on wuling

[outer bramble]

if quest locked, his outpost won't be level 2 no?

[shell hinge]

Interesting

[bright zodiac]

dw, nothing much change, except hetonite, everything else still the same

[marble yarrow]

true

[signal reef]

yeah i can confirm this for you too, got it earlier

[shell hinge]

My guess is that we're getting lvl 3 in part 2 of 1.2

Since datamining shows the lvl quest is ingame, consistent with other stuff in 1.2 but not available yet

[fervent lodge]

me looking at my 20 quests in the log

is this what people call no content....

[shell hinge]

What's the stock bills/hr for you?

[drifting compass]

Hetonite legit the "get Fangyi or be useless" material lmao

[rapid hedge]

hopefully..
didn't they say this will be the last patch of wuling on stream?

[sonic summit]

wait is the masive purification also in part 2 of 1.2?

[shell hinge]

Yes

[rapid hedge]

lv4 on depot, jingyu outpost and everything else as well pls

[solar wedge]

should increase Cuprium?

[shell hinge]

Damn, a mere 772.8 stock bills/min

[bright zodiac]

i think, if some endmin dont want to bother workin on the facility setup, they can daily farm hetonite component from boxes

[solar wedge]

or am i missing some cuprium

[drifting compass]

Most Hetonite gears rn aren't even useful to anyone but Fangyi lmao

[signal reef]

SC wulings were unlocked at lvl 2 but you can't sell hetonite here, exclusive to SKF only so far

[lapis knot]

perlica tho?

[drifting compass]

I guess?

[outer bramble]

so I can save more heptonite for machinery?

[uncut quest]

may i ask if the new conduit can transport two different liquids?

[sonic summit]

nope only double the input output capacity

[uncut quest]

thanks

[signal reef]

nah this is what the interface looks like, pretty sad unfortunately

[uncut quest]

yeah the physical design also says that

[outer bramble]

I was thought why there is 2 hole, then I remember pipe throughput limit

[cursive river]

what can i do to inject more effluent into expanded crucible

[unreal laurel]

more pipes

[cursive river]

theres only 2

water and sewage is taking it

[outer bramble]

sushi pipe

[bright zodiac]

to be exact.... use more converger

[cursive river]

and i ASSUME pipe perging 2 different liquids dont work

does

does that work?

[outer bramble]

maybe converger at the machinery inlet?

[cursive river]

water and sewage

[shell hinge]

Should I post a bp of my base now or give it a couple days of testing?

[hidden temple]

[rapid hedge]

are you trying to produce xircon in 1 reactor?
you don't need sewage

you only fill sewage once
After that you can use the sewage output as input

[cursive river]

huh?

oh so i just need to cap out sewage and it recycles infinitely?

[outer bramble]

not really

[muted tartan]

i am losing 4-5 xiranite per minute any tips on how to produce them faster i got all forges out

[rapid hedge]

no dont cap it
leave it at 30-40

[outer bramble]

the sewage got reduce each time it got processed

[rapid hedge]

it will clog if the sewage is full

[void owl]

is this 100% efficiency

[cursive river]

I produce 1 sewage every 2 seconds and i USE 1 sewage every 2 seconds for zircon

[signal reef]

you can split the responsibilities between two different crucibles, because otherwise the only way to make all of it in 1 single crucible is that instead of piping in sewage you need to be piping in xircon effluent instead

[cursive river]

ah damn

[rapid hedge]

no need for sewage as input

[cursive river]

yo what the hell man im getting three different answers here 💔

[outer bramble]

you bottled into it?

[signal reef]

nah he's showing the xircon effluent example

[outer bramble]

there is many way of solution

[rapid hedge]

working fine at 1 sewage (it shows zero but there's sewage there)

[signal reef]

the thing is you need a reliable source of xircon effluent for this

[void owl]

help?

[signal reef]

which you're essentially either making in another crucible anyway, or you have extra effluents stocked up, or you're piping in the effluent from your purification unit

[cursive river]

i thought purification unit just doesnt have ENOUGH if youre only producing 1 zircon

[signal reef]

yeah but you're producing 2

[cursive river]

oh youre supposed to be producing 2 xircon?

[signal reef]

yeah if you're making 12 SCs

unless you can't rn due to your setup

[cursive river]

how many more ores did we get thi supdate

[bright zodiac]

1 fullsetup gives 30/m xircon with 60/m xiranite

now multiply them by two

[signal reef]

my purification effluent is piped into my heavy xiranite maker but thereotically it's possible to pipe the effluent back into one of my crucibles

[cursive river]

is it worth it tho

[fathom viper]

I assume the problem is the sewage, but how do I dump it out?

[signal reef]

personally i don't think so but this is more going just by my gut

[rapid hedge]

you use too much sewage
there's a clogged cuprium line there

and is it heavy xiranite that you made?

[bright zodiac]

nowadays, we can have up to 240/m xiranite so.....

[outer bramble]

waste treatment unit

[void owl]

wait i cant direcyeah

[fathom viper]

thank you

[cursive river]

yes but i thought we had to sac some of that to make heavy

and THEN we need to sac more to make heavy IN

[signal reef]

you can make a stable setup using sewage and the only thing you need to do is just to split 1 cuprium line of sewage into 1/2 1/2 instead

[bright zodiac]

even at most, ppl burn 120xiranite for 60xircon

mainly to perfectly deplete originium
u still has 4 forge of the sky left to work with

[rapid hedge]

it's better to go for full heavy xiranite production
(you won't need split pipes)

use 2 xiranites as input for forge
and only use 1 sewage pipe
throw the other pipe to treatmet facility
also 1 treatment = 1 sewage

[cursive river]

ok so how much forges for xiranite how many for hxiraniet

[void owl]

i am using both sewage for heavy xiraite i think

[rapid hedge]

3 for xiranites 1 for hxira production so 4

[bright zodiac]

mostly 7xira 1heavy

but 6xira 2heavy is also an option with slightlu decreasing xira from depot

[cursive river]

and the other fourr?

[bright zodiac]

by default now, xircon

[cursive river]

oh ok

OHHH
okok

[rapid hedge]

full Hxira production needs 90 xiranites / min so 3 forges for xira
and 1 forge for Hxira production itself

[cursive river]

so an expanded crucible can infinitely recycle sewage or no?

[young stag]

yes

if you make xircon then yes it is self sustaining and you don’t need more input

other than 30/m effluent

[bright zodiac]

but it produce 0.5 sewage, remember

[young stag]

since it can’t support that

[rapid hedge]

yea but if you feed too much
it will clog
and if it's clogged, some facility will not run properly

for example at this picture
you feed 2 sewages to treatment facility
and once the treatment facility becomes full, your cuprium production will halt like the 2nd picture

[cursive river]

buhh?

if i ONLY make xircon then yes

[rapid hedge]

yes

[cursive river]

if i wire LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE then no?

[rapid hedge]

it is possible unless you go over the 8 slot limit

[cursive river]

what the shit is the 8 slot limit

[rapid hedge]

but it's best to use it on xircon production
you can produce a xircon without having to worry that 3 production won't feed the reactor

[ornate sorrel]

I was hoping for heavy xira to have a slightly different color but nope 😔

[rapid hedge]

number of items u can put on extended reactor

[sonic summit]

wait when we unlock wuling transfer ? i though lvl 12 is the max ?

[rapid hedge]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

[silent violet]

yo someone had a perlifumo belt art bp right?

[signal reef]

could be a later thing

at 1.1 lvl 9 was just stock bill limit increase

[lusty violet]

might be more

[bright zodiac]

lv12 and we cant even send stockpile let alone mrtastorage

[signal reef]

oh right

there's more lvls yeah

[sonic summit]

i want meta transfer some ore....

[signal reef]

v4 one doesn't say that

[rapid hedge]

v4 was.. just cheap

[bright zodiac]

ijst want to send 80K v4 stuff to wuling

[rapid hedge]

wuling might have 50+ levels to unlock metastorage

[bright zodiac]

[sonic summit]

nah do manul transfer instead

[bright zodiac]

ive had enough of that 💩

[signal reef]

btw, i haven't really considered it until you guys are talking about 6 xira 2 heavy forges, but just checking, if you're doing this were you guys routing 1 xircon effluent line from making xircon into heavy instead? so you're making SCs more at like 9/m instead of 12/m

[sonic summit]

here i though we need cryston bottle to transfer acid instead it was any bottle

[orchid pilot]

Outpost 2 is capped at lv2. Only new trade-in is SC batts

The levelup mission is actually fun

[signal reef]

i was hoping they'd ask us to make hetonite

but it's just taking pics lol

[bright zodiac]

yea i literally has everything 80k ready to give it to wuling, im jst too lazy to manual dijianh swap shit

[zealous gust]

is there any method for 1/4 split?

[orchid pilot]

Casuals might revolt, hetonite is pretty complicated. This way better for game health

[bright zodiac]

welp, you can make hetonite bottle tho

[sonic summit]

so this is fakin lie huh?

[orchid pilot]

Just a bummer to be capped so low at lv3/lv2

[cursive river]

is doing too much in jingyu valley not reccomended because you dont have enough space for lots of pumps

[orchid pilot]

No, it's fine

[bright zodiac]

best 'premium bottle' you can flex rn kekkkkkk

[signal reef]

i am gonna store acid in amethyst bottles if they're gonna keep this up

[south patio]

It should be a darker green

[cursive river]

im processing ALL of my cuprium there + yzhen syringe a
Is it POSSIBLE to squeeze in xircon

[orchid pilot]

The most you can fit with onsite farms is 7 forge, which requires 7 pumps

Oh maybe if you're doing cuprium there it would be tricky

6 pumps can fit at the little pond

[void owl]

made this.. time to reduce the area used

[orchid pilot]

Then just drag a pipe from outside the gate

[sonic summit]

nah amethyst bottle is for sell y know that buck c sell for 10 but use 5 amethyst bottle that you can sell for 2 a piece

[orchid pilot]

In your case, maybe multiple from outside the gate

[young stag]

if you take really extreme measures the only thing you need is water input

[south patio]

You can get some reduction with these

[young stag]

you can get water from outside of that pond also

[orchid pilot]

#profit

[void owl]

how do i use it?

[sonic summit]

rhodes island is so good to make medicine that we sell our concoction for free except the packaging cost it self

[south patio]

Place an Expanded Crucible in the place of each set of your existing Reactor Crucibles and then put in the same resources

[young stag]

input water, xiranite and sewage

output should look like this

[signal reef]

idk if this helps much for your reference but this is my xircon setup, if going with just only the expanded crucibles the length is maybe less at around 45 ish

[cursive river]

i dont LIKE looking at references because SOME of my friends call that CHEATING

[signal reef]

not sure if you have enough space for this, and maybe you'll find a better solution than i did

[sonic summit]

you can use an extended crucible to produce a xircon with a xira, water, and 1 effluent input

[cursive river]

where is your effluent coming from

oh wait

[signal reef]

i am producing xircon at half efficiency for all my crucibles and merging 2 and 2 together, so all my effluent is essentially "in-house"

[cursive river]

2x (1 for producing xircon and 1 for producing effluent)?

[signal reef]

nah they're all making xircon

just at half efficiency

[cursive river]

is that good???

[signal reef]

xircon was then output and then merged into a single line

[quasi locust]

i have fit 6 cuprium line and 2 xircon line in the new subpac. should be doable imo

[sonic summit]

man with purifying unit we get 1 efluent rebate every 4 inert

[signal reef]

it's stable, and altogether it uses 400 power

maybe others have a better solution than this, idk

[cursive river]

but like wont it kinda kill your income abit

[signal reef]

you mean like redirecting 1 effluent out so that you're making batteries slower in favor of more heavy xiranite instead?

i'll be honest, i haven't done the math

[cursive river]

no

i mean

having LESS xircon to produce LESS batteries to sell

[signal reef]

i am still making enough xircon for 2 lines of SCs

[cursive river]

huh?

[void owl]

am i doing it properly?

[cursive river]

how do you have enough for 2 lines if you only have 30/m

[cursive river]

what the shit

[signal reef]

it's 60m

[cursive river]

ok

[signal reef]

all of them are making it at 15/m

since i am merging 2 lines and then 2 lines

[cursive river]

but i thought you said both of your xircon was at half efficiency?

[signal reef]

it's 2 different 30/m lines

[south patio]

We are in hell

[cursive river]

oh

[signal reef]

yeah sorry, i compressed a lot of my piping so it might've been hard to see

[storm junco]

Hetonite bottle

[gloomy relic]

🥶 🥶 🥶

[cursive river]

what am i supposed to be SEEING HERE

[worldly holly]

why dont you make 2 30/min so your piping much easier

[signal reef]

two xircon merged lines

[south patio]

It looks like it, just make sure to utilize the Xircon Effluent and clean the Inert

[cursive river]

oh

[storm junco]

Two xircon line

[cursive river]

wait what is max effifiency

is it 60/m?

[signal reef]

i just found it easier to make it uniform and make them both accept sewage

[cursive river]

my head hurt

[ornate sorrel]

you cant pour the new liquids but you can pour heavy xiranite to the pool (it looks the exact same as xiranite)

[cursive river]

i thought max effifiency was 30/m per line

[ornate sorrel]

they really dont want red pool huh

[signal reef]

yep

[cursive river]

oh my FUCKING GOD

[storm junco]

Red pool

[cursive river]

i was LOSING MY MIND

coz i thought max effifiency was as much as one machine could produce at a time per minute

😭

[south patio]

Cuprium Solution Pool or Hetonite Solution Pool

[cursive river]

orrrr

[ornate sorrel]

yeah you cant pour them into pools

[signal reef]

theoretically you only need 25 ferrium dust for every 50 of everything else

[cursive river]

pweh.

[signal reef]

that's why i just split the ferrium dust instead

[south patio]

[storm junco]

Wth we got no ferrium update

[south patio]

WE ARE BEING STRIPPED OF OUR RIGHTS TO FILL THE EMPTY POOLS WITH LIQUIDS OF OUR CHOICE

[cursive river]

give us questionable white liquid

[lunar abyss]

here are the level 2 goods

[signal reef]

it's fine, because any xircon reaction per crucible is 2x slower than the other reactions

it's still actually 30/m dust when you pipe it into two crucibles

[south patio]

Jincao Solution, which is unfortunately the same green as Yazhen, these damn devs are lazy with the liquid colors but not the icon colors

[cursive river]

yo im not built for this

im just stealing a blueprint

and crying myselfto sleep

[storm junco]

EXTENDED crucible

Not reactor crucible

Different

[lusty violet]

EXPANDED

[cursive river]

im a TERRIBLE ENDMIMNNNN

[carmine whale]

i want to add more water do i just add splitter there?

[wary vine]

how am i supposed to get rid of the yellow liquid?

[worldly holly]

no splitter can't spawn water out of nowhere, you need more pump

[void owl]

time to upgrade this to use expended crucibles... ugggg

[hidden temple]

fluid supply unit, dump it back into lake

[south patio]

This is my Wuling Main AIC, I have a lot of extra space right now

[storm junco]

Let call it E.crucible

[signal reef]

you can dump it back into the acid pool

[carmine whale]

duh ofc ill add more outlets im asking if adding splitter with the current pipes be enough/work

[wary vine]

Oh- thanks!

[muted tartan]

3/min heavy xiranite good or bad?

feels like low

[keen river]

3/min means your forge is running at 50% so bad

[signal reef]

are you perhaps only piping in 1 line of xiranite?

heavy xiranite needs 2 lines of xiranite to run at full efficiency, xircon effluent aside