aic-factory

[static isle]

that's called cooking the books

[trim star]

ive gotten up to some like

3000 originium usage/yield before

it was very funny

actually i should do that again

[static isle]

SC facs can now be 2x expanded crucible + 1 final crucible for the zircon rather than 5 crucible right?

[storm garnet]

4 expanded total for the xircon

if you want 12/min sc

[pulsar cypress]

*my dumb brain lazy to remake the setup..

[storm garnet]

i just deleted everything in the main aic, aside of the 2 xiranite lines i had there

[trim star]

i should figure out the new sc factory but im lazy

[storm garnet]

then did copy pasta to get 3 more lines

it was actually nice to start from basically zero

i have so much space now

[static isle]

I'm doing 2x6 rather than 1x12

2 independent units

[storm garnet]

lc?

[trim star]

my two sc factories are on opposite sides of the depot bus so i have to build them differently

[static isle]

no SC

[rugged gulch]

I could not find a way i liked that used the expanded crucibles to do zircon. So i stuck with my old design. Takes a little more space but works just fine and is not a mess of belts.

[pulsar cypress]

Same for everyone ig.. 2x6 sc setup.

[storm garnet]

you need 2 units to make 12 sc

[shell hinge]

Did you remember passthrough?

[static isle]

the 4x expanded crucible setup ties the two units together no?

[rugged gulch]

No can do on them. They have to output half a belt of zircon.

[storm garnet]

yes, each expanded crucible makes 15/min xircon

so, 4 are needed to get 2 belts for 2 sc machines

it's basically like doubling the xircon reactors needed, but then fusing everything together

[pulsar cypress]

Isnt it possible for just 2 exp crucible each plant?
Me forgot.

[trim star]

yooo i found clean water

[static isle]

2x exp + 1 normal if you want the two units independent of each other

4x exp tied the two units together

[storm garnet]

this makes 15/min

[marble yarrow]

peak piping

[lyric kindle]

whats like the hetonite component rate/min goal

[storm garnet]

make sure to split the sewage pipe in half before it goes into the crucible

so you can feed 2 crucibles with 1 cuprium refinery

[glossy cove]

whats the ideal ratio for production to trade in wuling?

[trim star]

i should fill the underground with acid

[storm garnet]

i had that in mind, but then i checked the acid recipes and there aren't that many

[trim star]

correction: it's just one

[pulsar cypress]

Oh.. If 2 ext cru + 1 final cru, nothing change except space..
Since 1 ext = 2 cru energy consumption..

[storm garnet]

i mean, many as in many machines that need it

[static isle]

yeah it's mostly space so I'm not concerning too much

[trim star]

but like i guess you could dump acid into heavy xiranite and get liquid heavy xiranite but it's also like

[plucky mural]

yall think it's good to use expanded crucibles for xircon now?

[trim star]

you dont really need liquid heavy xiranite

normal soda works fine

[plucky mural]

i think it saves space but also it uses more power

[storm garnet]

i even made a 240/min cuprium usage setup and the acid usage is minimal

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Better just leave it be..
Already neat as it is.. XD

[storm garnet]

i dont even need the acid pool in the north

[storm garnet]

it saves power too actually

[trim star]

this is what im a tiny bit afraid of

like this has to be foreshadowing for the hc battery right

or something similar

[pulsar cypress]

It only save a small spaces, only save 100 power if u merge the 2 sc plant into 1.
If keep it 2 separate, only saving a bit space. Power same.

[storm garnet]

i already said hc will need more liquids for sure

[viscid plover]

has to be HCW

[trim star]

15 conduits

[violet vortex]

How much dense originium powder will it need

[storm garnet]

current originium in the world if all at high purity is 600/min

[trim star]

probably about the same

[storm garnet]

so maybe 1 extra belt

per machine

like they did from lc to sc

[plucky mural]

wdym by merging 2 sc plants

[storm garnet]

it's my turn to complain: why

[worn creek]

Hello, so is the Cuprium maxed at 180/m?

[storm garnet]

yes

[trim star]

just to slow down

no other reason

[worn creek]

fuc-

[trim star]

also i guess you could merge belts in the near future

[worn creek]

Soo... Is this efficient?

[storm garnet]

funny part is the bottles have normal ratio and speed

[trim star]

hetonite bottles

blessed

clean water

suspiciously pink clean water

[storm garnet]

i'm guessing dev intention for this patch was 120/min cuprium for making hetonite and 60/min for normal cuprium to make food, i guess?

[pulsar cypress]

Grape juice..

[trim star]

definitely just only using 4 cuprium lines for hetonite

i mean that's what the recipe is xd

wonder where that repair logic is

[coral orchid]

LOL they literally broke the line of supply unnoticed

[storm garnet]

i did the setup is if i have 8 lines for hetonite, i'll see what i do after the depot gets empty

[dire vapor]

They added quite a few new invisible walls this patch on older maps

[storm garnet]

oof, i hope non of my ziplines are fucked

[dire vapor]

Some old methods don't work anymore

[viscid plover]

same here

[storm garnet]

ok, i checked my ziplines in wuling city and they are ok

[trim star]

this guy is fishing in the most annoying spot ever

it's chill though

[rain schooner]

does anyone actually like these new aic things....it makes it overly complicated....

[trim star]

they're enjoyable

[coral orchid]

I see the invisible walls moved

[hushed blaze]

What's new again? I forgot

All i did was produce more battery and components

[solid quiver]

when would new recipes-bat and meds be released?

[tepid wigeon]

I love it

[coral orchid]

Invisible wall broke LOL

[storm garnet]

tbh, even this game's factory gameplay wasn't that complicated at first, at this rhythm of adding new things they might end up scaring most players since most people aren't here for the factory

[rain schooner]

this shit is trash....what do I do with excess acid.....it got clogged up

[trim star]

dump

[jovial breach]

Feedback loop or just dunp it back to pool

[rain schooner]

feedback loop it gets clogged....guess i gotta dupe it sigh

[storm garnet]

sad

[trim star]

blessed machine

i used to have one of those

for ferrium

[tepid wigeon]

lmao

[jovial breach]

Huh if your loop is clogged it means you did something wrong

[rain schooner]

????

[trim star]

me when

[storm garnet]

i haven't even started to make new components yet

[trim star]

i actually need cuprium ones

[rain schooner]

this is the trash i have so far

[storm garnet]

i have 38k xiranite and 28k cuprium components

but hetonite will take time...

[trim star]

i have like 6k cuprium components

[hidden elm]

what are the items and how much should i be producing in this version?

[trim star]

down from 11k

something like that

[lament token]

any new bp yet for the 1.2?

[marble yarrow]

guysss, MAIN AIC HETONITE

[fluid fog]

I have 40k each of it. then stop producing. cause you can't deplete them so fast due to stock bills

[jovial breach]

Oh you only make a small one, well ye not worth looping i guess

[trim star]

blessed

[fluid fog]

Piss not worth to loop you only just clogged it up if something wrong. so better dump it at the pool

[vapid dock]

we dont make syringe A anymore?

[rain schooner]

what do you mean small one.....how do you make a big one

[solid quiver]

expanded is only used in heavy xironite?

[vapid dock]

or is this just for stockpiling hetonite

[marble yarrow]

dont worry, it wasnt clogging since yesterday

[storm garnet]

my "fuck you devs, give me more cuprium" hetonite fab

[fluid fog]

you still can, other people want to use all cuprium in heto

[jovial breach]

If you want to make heto at full efficiency you'll need 4 line of cupium

[vapid dock]

do we have enough goods to sell if we turn it all into heto

[fluid fog]

I mean you can do it, but for me its just extra step.

[marble yarrow]

i was outputting 15/min from the purifying. so its exactly the half a converger takes

[subtle finch]

are those acid illegal aliens?

[hoary crag]

my new sc wuling battery line

[rain schooner]

but we dont even get enough ferrium for that

[solid quiver]

how you all using conduit manifoid?

[marble yarrow]

purified sewage is just a dream

[vapid dock]

oh wait the outpost buys hetonite

[storm garnet]

you are using double sewage on the crucibles

1 refinery can feed 2 crucibles

[trim star]

conduit manifold is just two conduits

[marble yarrow]

mine

[trim star]

nothing special

[coral orchid]

This area broke everything

[marble yarrow]

4/s

[trim star]

yeah

conduits are just underground pipes

[solid quiver]

is the constant flow rate is 4 or is it the max

[trim star]

max is 4

[marble yarrow]

yeah now we need underground pipe mapping for everything

[trim star]

partially because you cant physically feed it more

they could make it literally infinite and it wouldnt matter

[solid quiver]

all this to power 8 facility?

[vapid dock]

bruh, mydumbass forgot to set fluid output and left it overnight

[fluid fog]

That Uses Protocol Capacity, which sometimes a No for me.

[young stag]

what do yall do with the water you get from purification

[solid quiver]

you need these?

[jovial breach]

Dump back to pool

[young stag]

so would you prefer bending pipes instead

[fluid fog]

Sewage clogged so yeah.

[unique geode]

so like hetonite....

[obsidian crane]

Plug it into a refinery

[rain schooner]

why like this?

[jovial breach]

Oh wait that's smart

[trim star]

not gonna lie i never noticed the giant new building top left of wuling city

[unique geode]

what do i do with precipitation acid from the purification unit

[fluid fog]

Yeah, Am no strict to aesthetics anyway.

[jovial breach]

Dump it back to pool

[unique geode]

dang u rite

[storm garnet]

any confirmed bug while offline or just the usual belts?

[rain schooner]

i really really dislike this new aic stuff....you literally have to break down your old shit if you want to make new stuff

[unique geode]

wait how do i do this again

[jovial breach]

Water supply unit

[trim star]

you mightve described every battery tier in the game

congratulations

[fluid fog]

So far no offline stuff, just usal belts from 1.0

[obsidian crane]

Wait I lowk just reused the extra acid

[fluid fog]

Thx to Expandable Crucible

[vapid dock]

thats just how factory games are esp when unlocking higher tech

[rain schooner]

we arent making new batteries tho and having to do it every fing patch gets old really fast

[trim star]

you're basically making new stuff every single patch

that's just how it is

[jovial breach]

You can but if you ur design is bad it would cause clogging, you'll need some kind of priority when looping back the acid

[storm garnet]

if everything but the belts work well, then the endgame is as usual to identify the offline belt bottlenecks so the factory doesn't collapse

[vapid dock]

what production are we aiming for now
4.5 hetonite part/m 12sc/min and 6 heavyxiranite/min?

[subtle finch]

you gotta break some eggs to make omelettes something something

[storm garnet]

i don't even care anymore if it's not running at 100% as long as it doesn't stop

[jovial breach]

Indeed

Wait old pic

[trim star]

i like the wave

[rain schooner]

I shouldnt have to dismantle all my old shit tho. Thats what Im saying. So much shit overlaps

[trim star]

tbf you're very well choosing to dismantle old stuff

[nova pilot]

No more Yazhen Syringe/Jincao Drinks right?

[trim star]

the liquids makes it more annoying sure but there's nothing that says you cant just make parts individually

and then work with them later

[flint sky]

where can i get blueprint for every outpost in Wuling to copy?

[fluid igloo]

so erm i started to DIY my own power control output, how do u math it again?
know each belt supply 2 secs per item
if splitter split 2 means x2, if splitter split 3 means x3
so that i can count
i managed to calculate times for each battery supply
then minus 40 secs from the battery burning, the difference is the time no battery powering

so the question is, how u get the exact output for the exact usage? like 5500 power for example

[jovial breach]

Yes, no more healing, use all cupium for heto parts

[vapid dock]

so there's no more excess resource after getting those 3 up right

[marble yarrow]

i monitor hetonite instead (22.5/min) and store hetonite, hetonite parts, and comps

[storm garnet]

wuling factory was always meant to be temporary, it's like thinking lc v4 batteries setups would last forever

[trim star]

blessed depot loader

[jovial breach]

Technically there is excess ferrium im storing the excess ferrium powder so it looks like no excess

[worn creek]

I have a feeling that HC Wuling Batteries needs 5 Belts of dense Originium and liquid Heavy Xiranite

[hidden elm]

can i have the max efficient yield graph for the new 1.2 wuling base? im at a loss for what i should be producing

[storm garnet]

what are you guys using metatransfer for now?

[vapid dock]

did anyone get to lv2 outpost now

[jovial breach]

Ori cube

[fluid fog]

I just did this 1.11111/m ratio XD

[trim star]

nothing

never used it for anything no lie

[jovial breach]

Make lc battery with extra 30/min xira

[trim star]

well ferrium first patch but then nothing

i guess you should just make more batteries

[storm garnet]

tru, i'll do that once i empty the depot of other mats

[upbeat blade]

man this shit kinda ass

[shell hinge]

Fishing with endfield be like

[lost lantern]

Is the max level for the second stock bill rabbit just level 2?

[marble yarrow]

im still 14 hours away to level 2

[rain schooner]

how are you getting 210 xiranite a min?

[jovial breach]

7 forge

[hoary crag]

I forgot that using expanded crucibles does count as looping the xircon sewage back

[trim star]

not very close

[winged oriole]

Okay chat what do I do with my last 30/min Xiranite

[storm garnet]

i think everyone started the same way with the outpost tickets, the only difference should be how quickly you put a support operator in to get 20% extra

[vapid dock]

making 0.something cuprium xiranite and hetonite components a bit too complicated now I'll just build a toggleable module

[jovial breach]

Let it rotten or try to make lc battery lol

[distant bear]

Or yk starting update 6 hours late

[fluid fog]

you can do 1 heavy and 7 light xiranite

[distant bear]

You do 1 heavy 7 light

[winged oriole]

Time to cap on Xiranite Components ig

[fluid fog]

we have almost the same KEKW

[distant bear]

Use inert from sc battery production to make heavy xira

[trim star]

my head hurts

[marble yarrow]

7+1 forge = 30/xiranite storing mode
6+2 forge = xiranite stock depletion mode

[trim star]

probably next week ill tear everything down and rebuild it again

[rain schooner]

thats what im doing....

[trim star]

doesnt look like it to me

[rain schooner]

but im not making that much

[distant bear]

Where's the 8th forge 💀

[fluid fog]

oh w8 I type 6 instead 7

[storm garnet]

i mean, even if not unlocked, it should have started counting after the maintenance ended

[unique geode]

oh finally

after 8 hours

[marble yarrow]

components?

[distant bear]

Don't think it did

[unique geode]

the hetonite component thingy works

oh my brain hurts

[hoary crag]

core aic finally done

[trim star]

components indeed

[storm garnet]

when i unlocked the outpost, i could get almost half prosperity in one go

[distant bear]

Ok maybe it did idk

[marble yarrow]

(forgot to eat lmaoo, jumped straight to endfield waking up 2 hrs ago)

[trim star]

you'll have 30 extra if you fix the sc battery setup btw that's really the only thing

im a bit lazy and my head hurts so im gonna just finish up some school work and then go sleep or smth

[ruby sorrel]

wait it's impossible to use all leftover ferrium on making hetonite is it

[dull shard]

do we have spare originium ores from yield to make an extra LC battery line without affecting the 12 wuling battery yield?

[unique geode]

omg im making stuff

[fluid fog]

I also forgot to eat last night XD

[dull shard]

bec i don't really know what to do with the spare xiranite line

[ruby sorrel]

no we have too much xiranite to make LC now

[marble yarrow]

y'all can use the extra xiranite, and meta-storage transfer dens originium to make LC, makes a little more bills

[small creek]

Oh thats smart

that makes more than yazhenC?

[distant bear]

Are you serious the fuckin ui doesn't work

😭

[trim star]

what ui

that looks perfectly fine to me

[distant bear]

Can't scroll down

[trim star]

oh lmao

[storm garnet]

wait, i just realized i put ferrium powder on every hetonite reactor lol, i just need it in 1 expanded crucible

[marble yarrow]

its 1.66667/min LC wuling, uses 25/min dense originium and 8.333/min xiranite

[trim star]

yeah i think the game is expecting 7 per row there for some reason

[ruby sorrel]

would SC make more if you're metaorig anyways

[marble yarrow]

nah im not making an extra xircon 😭

[trim star]

yes

[ruby sorrel]

it's just 1 fat crucible

[trim star]

statistically the answer is yes it's just annoying with the effluent flowback

[ruby sorrel]

toss everything into treatment

[subtle finch]

but im already above my ferrium rate with just 9/min of sc
i can't afford to metatransfer another thing

[trim star]

not enough space

it only works so fast

and you only get two pipe inputs

[ruby sorrel]

it's < 50%

[storm garnet]

xircon uses 60 ferrium, hetonite uses 30, there is no need to meta transfer more unless you want the c foods

[marble yarrow]

where do u use your other ferrium?

you use 60/min on 12 SC
you use 22.5/min on 22.5 hetonite

[small creek]

inb4 syringes

[worldly holly]

heto use 22.5 tho

[young stag]

i can only pray i log on at the correct time so this doesn’t die on me

[marble yarrow]

for me i did the remaining 7.5 ferrium + 25 meta ferrium for yazhen C

[storm garnet]

i was counting on the full usage since my depot is full i guess

[fluid fog]

Not even close to fully use Ferrium on a Limiting Hetonite

[wispy grove]

IM READYYY

[subtle finch]

my jincao

[small creek]

Jincao is such loser lmao

[ruby sorrel]

wait I just noticed it's 0 theoretical yield

[storm garnet]

tea was a winner this patch

[trim star]

heavy xiranite being the sell item feels weird

[marble yarrow]

type shi

[storm garnet]

i'm feeding the new outpost with my 58k teas

[fluid fog]

its getting off

[wispy grove]

[trim star]

mathematically you will hit the outpost refresh cap no matter what you do as long as you put every resource into new items

so it's not worth worrying over rn

[storm garnet]

almost all recipes on this patch are wanky on the aic report

[wind bison]

Is there a website to build your factory as a test? This whole update confuse me so bad

[fluid fog]

but but- the math?

[trim star]

that's mostly cause you push 22.5 hetonite tbf

cuprium to hetonite is 0.25x

4:1

which is super weird

wait

8:1

good math guys

[fluid fog]

I don't think there's one, unless planning build.

[storm garnet]

that too, but i mean that machines get recipes, makes things, then forget the recipes, which fucks up the theoretical

[marble yarrow]

aic planners yeah

[fluid fog]

I just build it step by step

[trim star]

for some reason they want you to do 4 lines into hetonite so you end up with half a belt and it's super sad and tragic

[trim star]

theorectical is always weird

it got much more weird with the reactor compounding

[small creek]

is there a way to make full efficiency xircon with 2 expanded crucibles

[storm garnet]

yes

[marble yarrow]

6/min yes

[small creek]

oml

[storm garnet]

2 expanded crucibles can make 1 xircon belt starting from normal xiranite, water and sewage

also ferrium powder

[trim star]

expanded crucibles are like super broken

[storm garnet]

sewage needs to be split in half before btw

1 refinery feeds 2 crucibles

[trim star]

it would be crazy if they gave us 4/s pipes though smile

[marble yarrow]

this is my 12/min setup

[small creek]

holy pipes

[solar wedge]

finally

[storm garnet]

i use 2 xiranite belts per crucible to avoid offline bug

and 1 full belt of ferrium powder

[uncut jungle]

i’ve been so stressed over this aic for the past 3hrs

[storm garnet]

only 3?

[uncut jungle]

i think ima just do a blueprint tmr im gonna lose my mind

[onyx stump]

Finally finished my 1/min Xiranite/Cuprium/Hetonite + Heavy Xiranite Bottle setup.

[worldly holly]

i wish expanded crucible have more pipe input so its possible to do 3 expanded for 60/min xircon

[storm garnet]

wait, there was a new one?

[versed birch]

Is it just me, or r ur guys wuling factories a lot more messy than ur valley 4 ones?

[storm garnet]

ugh

[versed birch]

U get there through main story right?

[storm garnet]

it's the optional zone at the southwest

you can get there with a raft, but i used a shared zipline lol

[ruby sorrel]

hmm how would that work you're still limited by 1 effluent recipe per crucible no?

[fluid fog]

Wuling have many variables than Valley 4 that's why its looks messy

[versed birch]

The raft i found doesnt work there

[versed birch]

Yeah i hate the fucking pipes

[storm garnet]

did i skip the story then? lol

[versed birch]

I feel like its story locked

Cuz im only to part where u get new outpost

[storm garnet]

here btw

[fluid fog]

I love Pipes though, came from a Satisfactory player.

[storm garnet]

i used those blue ziplines

didn't check the south route

[jovial breach]

do you guys update your sc with expanded crucible?

[versed birch]

Yeah that very bottom raft just doesnt work for me idk

[versed birch]

And i rlly hate em. Makes my factory so messy

[fluid fog]

to make Xircon? yes its much more space saving

[storm garnet]

oh, the bridge above is up now

[jovial breach]

im too tired lol is there a bp or something i can copy

[marble yarrow]

yes, because previously we used 5 (250 power) now 2 expanded = 200 power and less space

[storm garnet]

i'm on the part of the story when i have to go back to the office of zhuang btw

[fluid fog]

The problem is theres no invert output for Refine pipe and other related static output

[wispy grove]

[versed birch]

Yes inverting them would be very very nice

[tulip yew]

Guys I've been stuck with on how to unlock depot bus, I've already done the simulation 4 times and still says it's lock

[edgy kindle]

amazin

[jovial breach]

you place it down

[marble yarrow]

mine, you just need to manage the 4 inert outputs to join into a purifying unit for the heavy forge

[versed birch]

U see 3rd pic abv? U have the node for it?

[marble yarrow]

i can bp it

[tulip yew]

Node?

[young stag]

why isn’t this making effluent

[marble yarrow]

not enough slot

[versed birch]

This

[marble yarrow]

you need 6

[copper lily]

gotta flex my sheet here

[jovial breach]

oh that looks simpler than i thought, ok i can work around it ig

[versed birch]

U also have to buy ability to place em down from the bird guy by ur AIC

[edgy kindle]

6 a min SHEESH

[versed birch]

Just like how u can expand the space for ur AIC

[versed birch]

How tf h making so much hetonite???

[marble yarrow]

hetonite died

[valid gazelle]

Is it me.. or the ratio to the heto components like.. really bad

[tulip yew]

No i haven't got this em,

[copper lily]

lol. no..
it's just 23/mins

[tulip yew]

We could expand AIC area?

[marble yarrow]

unhealthy ratios

[versed birch]

Im sitting at fucking 15 hetonite/min 💀

[versed birch]

Yes…

[valid gazelle]

So it is bad..

[versed birch]

All of em and outpost

[tulip yew]

Where could I find this bird guy ?

[versed birch]

Ohh i thought 120 was production lmao

[edgy kindle]

i hate having to pick my poison

heto component or syringe

[copper lily]

yep, i'm waiting for it

[edgy kindle]

LAME

[versed birch]

Right by ur factory

He will have an excalamation mark abv his head if u can upgrade anything

U use ur region creds for upgrades

[versed birch]

Im doin both rn

[marble yarrow]

most sane cardiac outpost

[versed birch]

Realistically

[edgy kindle]

i would do both but my cuprium will shut down my factory

[versed birch]

If u max out ur component storage, u rlly never have to make anymore

[valid gazelle]

Me when low purity

[edgy kindle]

im not l12 yet

sadge

[versed birch]

Cuz when u upgrade gear, u dont need exact copy of gear for upgrade

[valid gazelle]

Ya you still need copium gear

[edgy kindle]

im at 50k components for all of em

except heto

[versed birch]

Yeah 50k is so much ur never runnin out lmao

[edgy kindle]

LOL

[versed birch]

Thats 10000 gear u can make lol

[copper lily]

after i complete my ZF gears. gotta remove hetonite factory anyway

[vital parcel]

so im already producing yazhen syringe A and C, SC WULING BAT, Xir component, Cup component at Main pac and using 4 forge of the sky. what should i put on my Jingyu subpac?

[edgy kindle]

real

[rapid hedge]

[vital parcel]

help pls

[rapid hedge]

I swear the limit was 128

[ruby sorrel]

what where

[rapid hedge]

why did they nerf it to 96

[ruby sorrel]

128 is wuling pipe logistics

[rapid hedge]

[valid gazelle]

Tf 96

[ruby sorrel]

pipeline is probs pipe sections

[rapid hedge]

yea outpost have 96

[versed birch]

Stuff for new material that req acid

[rapid hedge]

welp I guess I have to use conduits now for those 2 separate cuprium mines

[vital parcel]

but theres no acid on jingyu

[rapid hedge]

this was such a beauty

[marble yarrow]

bring it there

[upbeat blade]

am i forgetting something?

[cobalt oriole]

Hi just want to check whats the optimal ratio of production rn

[upbeat blade]

could prob make slightly more heavy xiranite, i think

[rapid hedge]

btw can 1 big conduit linked to 2 small conduits?
by big I meant the one released in this patch

[cobalt oriole]

Assuming like minimal Hcomp production

[subtle finch]

you left the microwave on

[marble yarrow]

as long as you produce 22.5/min of Hetonite, 12 SC, and 6 heavy xiranite

[upbeat blade]

oh FUCK no i gotta turn it off byeee

[quartz coral]

Yo, anyone got good megabase blueprints or screenshots for the current wuling patch? I have midterms coming up and can't really afford the brainpower. My DMs are open for anyone willing to help.

[cobalt oriole]

So basically at the end of the whole chain

I split off some parts to make comps?

Gotcha

[young stag]

im losing sewage in this crucible but not the identically set up other

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrowso the 2 thing look like this?

[cobalt oriole]

U still need 30/min input of sewage no?

[young stag]

nvm i forgot an effluent input

sewage is self containing

[cobalt oriole]

Fair fair

[jovial breach]

fuck this

[marble yarrow]

on the xircon forge dont output the sewage, since it is self-sustainable

[cobalt oriole]

I gotta get on hetonite production asap

But Im so damn busy

[uneven aspen]

What's the good I should be selling for the new outpost?

[cobalt oriole]

Some sc some heto parts some hxira

[uneven aspen]

oh did people get to lvl 2 outpost?

[jovial breach]

this shit so cursed

[distant bear]

No

[rain schooner]

is the new crucible supposed to replace the old xircon ones?

[cobalt oriole]

I think 1st outpost takes heto parts now?

[rain schooner]

i see you all using it to make xircon but why?

[young stag]

i set mine up like this

im still burning away my bottled effluent stocks so dont mind the empty pipes

[uneven aspen]

2 expanded crucibles instead of 5 reactor crucibles

[subtle finch]

happy with the layout for now

[worldly holly]

don't have to but it saves 100 energy and more space for other thing

[cobalt oriole]

If your 1 super crucible can make 3 reactions, its more worth that 3 crucibles

[young stag]

saves space

[rain schooner]

so the only benefit is saving a bit of space and energy lol

sigh

ill keep my old ones up haha

[young stag]

4 expanded crucibles also uses less energy than 10 normal ones

[young stag]

a lot of space, not just a bit

[cobalt oriole]

Ok so the 1st img here is the final xircon production and the 2nd img is making more effluent to feed into the first one isit?

[storm garnet]

turning on all my old ziplines now that i'm using 2 thermal banks, worst bittersweet feeling

i might add a few more ziplines now

[marble yarrow]

yes, the 2nd one produces the effluent to help the first

[cobalt oriole]

Real af the 4.5k power dream is dead

[worldly holly]

i still can do 4.46k

[cobalt oriole]

Damn I gotta do some restructuring then

Wait how much ferrium does max heca part cost

[young stag]

wait do yall actually make lc wuling

[marble yarrow]

heca lmaoooo

[storm garnet]

i could do 4.5k, but i don't want to involve v4 long term

[trim star]

im way over the power budget cause i have my turret array permanently on

[shell hinge]

Well, I've managed to fit 10 forges and hetonite into two sub aics, including all planters

[marble yarrow]

you can, to use the extra xiranite + 25/min dense meta transfer

[shell hinge]

Why did I do this again?

[cobalt oriole]

So how much is it?

[subtle finch]

why am i at 5k power already

[cobalt oriole]

Is it like 60 rn

[worldly holly]

22.5 since we only have 6 cuprium for heto

[cobalt oriole]

Oh thats quite little

[marble yarrow]

hetonite

[cobalt oriole]

I like Hecanite

Just like Ill continue

To call 13th

[wispy grove]

[cobalt oriole]

Suipits

[worldly holly]

and that extra 7.5 could go to make 1.25 sc wuling

[trim star]

you know what i might just remake my thing now

[cobalt oriole]

Why is the area so small

[trim star]

im like in full panic mode for some reason i just need to do something

[shell hinge]

This sandleaf setup is a nightmare

[wispy grove]

bro its not worth upgrading it to the max yet

[marble yarrow]

time to continue the premium bottling

[cobalt oriole]

I just maxed it cos y not XD

[trim star]

cryston bottle

[young stag]

i don’t even have extra xiranite

[wispy grove]

hows your yield graph?

[young stag]

using 185/180 rn

[bright zodiac]

no, right now its not cryston anymorE

its HETONITE BOTTLE

[storm garnet]

first thing i did before building anything is max the area, so whatever i build is in the final spot

[cobalt oriole]

As in maxed the size of the outpost

[worldly holly]

u should have 210 for 7 forge no?

[small creek]

am i cooking chat

[cobalt oriole]

Only cost like 4mil bills

[bronze vector]

i think i found my greatest enemy

[reef dagger]

what does the optimized report look like

[storm garnet]

you are cooked

[small creek]

yay ❤️

[shell hinge]

Oh gods

[bronze vector]

constant straight line

[worldly holly]

just shred ferrium somewhere else

[ruby sorrel]

how did you get to 513

[shell hinge]

I just spent 20 min squeezing sandleaf into this build

[cobalt oriole]

How much shite do u have XD

[reef dagger]

numbers?

[small creek]

Nah i want everything in one place

[ruby sorrel]

actually overcap

[shell hinge]

And my conclusion is that I need to remove it

[wispy grove]

[bright zodiac]

yo, u guys use 7K power?

[shell hinge]

KMN

[bright zodiac]

[bronze vector]

i think forge doesn't count towards the limit

[young stag]

what’s this even doing

[subtle finch]

shift the bottom crucible to the right, its gonna bug me that they're not aligned

[jovial breach]

[young stag]

ohh wait yeah i forgot another forge

[small creek]

Nope

[storm garnet]

i'll probably end up a bit over 5k when i finish adding some extra buildings later

this is worse than v4 and it's not even the final form

[cobalt oriole]

I'm thinking if I should remake the old xircon productions but then Im too lazy XD

[subtle finch]

why am i at 5k power already

[bronze vector]

im at 6k

[bright zodiac]

i think most will sit at around 5k

, but some have nearly 7K consumption

[hard lotus]

[tepid wigeon]

I have 4.56k still making some meds haven't swapped to full hetonite yet

[ruby sorrel]

wait why is it so high

[tepid wigeon]

also missing a xiranite forge

[bronze vector]

my V4 is a different story

[cobalt oriole]

Just to check, hetonite uses no forges right

[bright zodiac]

probably didnt turn off some meds facility

[bronze vector]

consume 3k but produce 6k

[trim star]

no

[tawny shadow]

looks so ugly but I'll take it
do you guys think heavy xiranite will have other usage in the future?

[trim star]

the game says it does

[bright zodiac]

ye ofc

[cobalt oriole]

Sweet I got a few hours to burn

[subtle finch]

im uncomfortable with all these cat ears on my aic report

[bronze vector]

deleting superactive blight spots

[cobalt oriole]

New bats 4 sure

[tawny shadow]

nice Ig I can keep producing
idk where to find the 4th xircon eff for my reactor

[bright zodiac]

hetonite sewage bottled

[hard lotus]

is this good enough my brain about to explode

[trim star]

you dont need heavy soda for blue blight it's just way worse to use normal soda

[bright zodiac]

premium shit

[hushed blaze]

Can't i just let through without triggering quest

[vapid dock]

I saw someone here using cryston bottles instead of ferrium, can cryston be a substitute for ferrium bottles on every liquid?

[cobalt oriole]

Also u can sell Hxira for 27 which is ok pricing

[trim star]

no

[tawny shadow]

nah apart from liq / hetonite comp

[trim star]

recipes that require x bottled liquid must use that bottle

[valid gazelle]

how much heavy xyranite are you guys producing ? 1 heavy 7 normal xyranite ?

[worldly holly]

no where u extra cuprium go

[tawny shadow]

oh shit.. I didn't know that
thx for letting me know

[bronze vector]

ig its only purpose rn r just selling 🥀

[jovial breach]

hmm

[young stag]

why would you even use cryston

[vapid dock]

cause we dont have a use for amethyst

[trim star]

i should just delete my entire main aic and sub aic rn

[bright zodiac]

bcs v4 is overflowing

[marble yarrow]

as storage, yes. but you cannot use it for meds

[cobalt oriole]

Time to go touch the pee pool and make blood crystals

[hushed blaze]

You can fill cryston bottles with any liquid. just unable to make it into syringe

[vapid dock]

thats fine

[hard lotus]

wait i have 60 more free

[vapid dock]

I just want a stockpile of xiranite/heavy xiranite

[bright zodiac]

unless the painful manual to transfer 80K from there, its good

[vapid dock]

bottles

[worldly holly]

more brain cell to fry

[subtle finch]

we should get the bottles back after selling meds, these wulingers are not recycling

[valid gazelle]

no shit

[shell hinge]

Does this seem like sufficient planning ahead? I've got it set up to handle 240/min cuprium

[bright zodiac]

hetonite bottle heavy xiranite liquid, rip

[ruby sorrel]

so how does the medA vs heto part math work anyways

[hushed blaze]

The bottle would be unsanitary.

[bright zodiac]

premium hoarding at its finest

[storm garnet]

don't forget to plan ahead for the event and get extra space

[slim moat]

how much water do you end up saving if you actually feed the recycled stuff back in

[valid gazelle]

bottle cleansing facility

[hoary crag]

define 'cooking'

[jovial breach]

literally just 0.5 water

[small creek]

Boiling water in pan

[late zodiac]

Depot bus placement aside, how is my first attempt at a xircon farm?

[valid gazelle]

not bad

[small creek]

Expanded crucibles

[valid gazelle]

time to use expanded crucible and cut down 1 row of reactor crucibles

[late zodiac]

expanded crucible?

[bright zodiac]

yea its so premium, by far the most premium things

[hushed blaze]

Is HC wuling battery available?

[valid gazelle]

yes its an AIC upgrade you get when you clear the story of this patch

[jovial breach]

not exist yet

[shell hinge]

I oddly ended up not using any expanded crucibles for hetonite

I valued the passthrough over combining recipes

It would only have saved one reactor anyway

[late zodiac]

oh boy

time to do story again

[subtle finch]

why not both

[young stag]

when is this

[small creek]

soowage

i need soowage

[hushed blaze]

Too much power output?

[timid gate]

Chat how many forges are you using to make xira and how many for heavy xiranite?

[dire vapor]

The crucible side is so much smaller now, but now it looks unbalanced lol

[shell hinge]

I'm running it at full throughput so I can't compress two fluids into one input for the crucible

[bright zodiac]

mostly 7forge xira 1forge heavy

7forge xira, gives excess xira

6forge xira, draining xira

[timid gate]

What are you doing with the extra xiranite? Components?

[bright zodiac]

purely sell it is an option

[jovial breach]

can this feed 1 thermal ?

[subtle finch]

like 6min? this is running at full 180/min cuprium w/o problem

[timid gate]

Ah ic, might as well make components

[bright zodiac]

so yea, either makes components or battery, even LC works, if you need the POWER

[trim star]

ok time to delete everything on my main pac

[ruby sorrel]

do we just convert leftover xira into heavy xira?

[subtle finch]

its 1.5 + 2 out of 4, the pipe can keep up

[bright zodiac]

yea definitely

unless you want full uptime, no

[marble yarrow]

can you imagine if piss can leak into your meds

[static isle]

if my SC facs are in main AIC, is it worth to conduit and pipe the inert effluent all the way to marker just to save on one xiranite line

[jovial breach]

No it's actually full uptime

[knotty vine]

is the expanded crucible doing 2 things slower than 2 separate reactor crucible? or is making hetonite just slow and normally causing facilities to sleep

[jovial breach]

1 thermal uses just 1.5

[bright zodiac]

oh i thought u split it into stash

so its kinda, somewhat pwm

[shell hinge]

My build is for 240/min cuprium. The goal this patch is to build a base that can handle the entire patch, rather than just release content

[trim star]

if other facilities are sleeping that arent the purifiers used to make hetonite soln something is going wrong

[jovial breach]

Ok so using 1 lc + 1 sc is optimal

And still have 2/3 of a xiranite belt excess

[bright zodiac]

👌

[shell hinge]

Why would you use lc batteries?

They cost more xiranite and more originium

[knotty vine]

so if the purifiers are the only ones sleeping thats fine then?

[subtle finch]

i downsized the 25% because its wasted power

[trim star]

if you arent feeding a purifier 4 lines of cuprium it will always sleep so yes

[bright zodiac]

when you have excess xiranite and not xircon (it require sewage, and u already use them all from cuprium)

[eternal wyvern]

anyone knows whats the bills income from the maxed 2nd outpost after character/auto-defense buffs?

[vapid dock]

where is this from?

[marble yarrow]

you can produce 1.667/min with the extra xiranite and meta-storage dense originium. that means 1 LC for the bank

[shell hinge]

I'll just turn those machines off. Not a big deal to toggle them once

[subtle finch]

passthrough wont work with crucibles turned off

[shell hinge]

Why would you not produce 1.25/min sc batteries with the dense originium?

[shell hinge]

Good point, I'll add a splitter

[marble yarrow]

because i wont

[jovial breach]

[jovial breach]

Is that even worth the power usage for the setup lol

[shell hinge]

Yes? It costs very little power

[marble yarrow]

i just smack the dense and xira into a machine

not that hard

[wispy grove]

YESSSSS FINALLY FINISHED POSTING

[shell hinge]

It's what, 3 machines?

[trim star]

ok no i wont rebuild everything today my head is not working properly i wouldnt get anything usable anyways

[shell hinge]

The stock bill and power value is so much higher

[marble yarrow]

you do that. we wont

fair

[jovial breach]

Save me some braincells

That's good enough

[marble yarrow]

dont act highly

[jovial breach]

[rapid hedge]

now I understand why you can't fill sewage to full for 1 reactor xircon production
sewage is always the problem

[bright zodiac]

ill just... drain my 57k HC batt

[shell hinge]

Whether it's hard required is yet to be seen

[wispy grove]

use my bp

[inland wolf]

is there any use of xircon other than making sc wuling battery?

[jovial breach]

Making sc battery

[shell hinge]

My guess is that it at least won't be required for non-artificing bases

[bright zodiac]

im sure i will hit hetonite and comp cap even before my HC ran out

[trim star]

nah i always make my own stuff from scratch

[bright zodiac]

68K , here we go again

[trim star]

just gotta get some theory down

[sterile stratus]

why

[static isle]

is it worth to drag my 4 inert effluents from main AIC all the way to marker stone to make heavy xiranite

[trim star]

more accurately i want to do some wacky reactor shenanigans

[uneven aspen]

💀 i think i am using too much power . . . havent even set up gear component farm yet

[sterile stratus]

mine is 6k as well lol idk why

[rapid hedge]

it will clog if you fill it to full (left pic)

[trim star]

im at 5880 iirc

[marble yarrow]

now time to compute how many days do i switch between 7+1 and 6+2 forges

[sterile stratus]

ohhh

[bright zodiac]

how did you even 7200

common is 6600

[shell hinge]

Make heavy xiranite in main aic

[jovial breach]

What's you guys' prosperity on cardiac outpost?

[wispy grove]

HOURS🥀

[sterile stratus]

so... can we calculate the rate to fill it so it won't be full

[trim star]

still the wuling main pac is like

all empty space

there's really nothing to do on it huh

[young stag]

why??

i barely even use 5k

[sterile stratus]

how

[marble yarrow]

another premium

[sterile stratus]

oh lol

[trim star]

you should make the machine

[rapid hedge]

just fill it once then cut the pipes before it's full
I use xirc effluent and water as the input liquids

[storm garnet]

new endgame: setting up many protocol stashes so xiranite last a long time in a 6-2 forge setup

[trim star]

the machine

[sterile stratus]

1 crucible xircon?

[rapid hedge]

hetonite bottle?

[sterile stratus]

oh wait no

not poss

[marble yarrow]

what if the piss ends up in your syringe

[rapid hedge]

it's actually 3 crucible for 2

😅

[uneven aspen]

no idea if only the game can tell me . . .

[sterile stratus]

yeahhhh...

[trim star]

5886

[sterile stratus]

oh i should setup 3 cruc for 2

mhm

[young stag]

how do you even use 5.8

[rapid hedge]

still missing 1 inert eff but you can throw it from heavy xiranite production

[trim star]

i have 5880

i have like 15 turrets in two areas

[bright zodiac]

thats why that button didnt do its job properly, but everyone just dont care

[rapid hedge]

so it's actually 4 reactors for 2 xircon + 1 heavy xir

[sterile stratus]

well...

[bold flicker]

Is this where i ask for some general tips on building?

[jovial breach]

ok this is peak

[sterile stratus]

i am already using 4 reactors 🥀

bruh

[rapid hedge]

idk where to find the 4th inert xirc from other than heavy xir

[sterile stratus]

no, those are peaks

[trim star]

i love it when you make what is very clearly 3/m but the parity is off so it's permanently 2-4/m

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-11954040389595096870

[sterile stratus]

mhm

[storm garnet]

oh, it's only 2 per component instead of 5, maybe i treated you too harshly

[marble yarrow]

FOKKIN 25K

[trim star]

10 hetonite

[storm garnet]

still annoying that they take 10 seconds too on the prior recipes

[sterile stratus]

500 hetonite

[trim star]

i mean it's the same rate as the machine though

so it makes sense

[tawny shadow]

how many hetonite comps do you guys plan to make before stopping?

[marble yarrow]

time to retire HC in wuling when it runs out

[dull shard]

can ferrium bottles be used for making the wuling drinks [syyringe/tea]

[jovial breach]

but you need 5 to make 1 part

[sterile stratus]

i still don't know why i'm using 6kw

[trim star]

the earlier tier yes

the later tier no

[dull shard]

okay so wtf do we do with all this ferrium now

[trim star]

honestly dont stress over it

[marble yarrow]

only the C variants

[wispy grove]

before stopping? hell nah. bro the comp only makes 2.25/min at max🥀

[storm garnet]

i mean, it's the same mats needed in total, just different ratios down the line, though it takes longer technically

[sterile stratus]

60 for battery, 30 for jincao tea or yazhen c

[trim star]

if you use less batteries you're just overcapping harder

xd

[sterile stratus]

lol

[bright zodiac]

try to remove all syringe A, and mostly C too, bcs most ppl will allocate all cuprium into new stuff
and ferrium is not worth for C anymore

[storm garnet]

i guess if you have already a few mats, it takes the same time

[dull shard]

I don't want to make C variants guuuuh

I'm making 3/min As

[sterile stratus]

i want to milk everything possible

[tawny shadow]

erm but you only need it to craft new gears.. something like 10k looks too much

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/homelander-firecracker-1

[wispy grove]

theres no such thing as few

[sterile stratus]

NOT LIKE THAT

[worldly holly]

u can make sc bat with that 30 ferrium

[sterile stratus]

do i need originium

[bright zodiac]

so yea, you are making meds, those facility are taking hundreds of your power and you only utilize .... uhhh 10-50% of its efficiency

[sterile stratus]

i forgor the recipe

[tawny shadow]

[worldly holly]

meta storage

[sterile stratus]

what's that

[worldly holly]

this thing?

[sterile stratus]

uh

ig i'm calling it reg transfer

[trim star]

can anyone run me over the inert effluent loop in the expanded crucible before i remake my entire factory tomorrow

[sterile stratus]

also i've milked every ore in v4 already can't transfer

[trim star]

metastorage takes no resources

you just get it for free

[worldly holly]

yea metastorage transfer just spawn it somewhere and transfer to wuling

[marble yarrow]

i dream of a patch where we manufacture fuel for our own vehicle to be used in the overworld

[tawny shadow]

I just realized it costs 30 xiranites to make 1 heavy xir..
selling for 27 feels like a scam

[sterile stratus]

that would be amazing

if only

[cobalt oriole]

It cost 90/min

[trim star]

i need a method to produce acid

[sterile stratus]

what acid

[crimson inlet]

my remaining braincells after a modified my 1.1 cuprium sets

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-drooling-silly-cat-silly-cat-gif-3586937027183329428

[tawny shadow]

oh nvm it was hetonite comps that needed 30 xir
heavy only needs half
mb

😂

[sterile stratus]

bro's using the whole ahh copium for that thing

[cobalt oriole]

Lmao

[cobalt oriole]

Heto parts are expensive 4 sure

[crimson inlet]

I'm planning on making hetonite parts

[trim star]

not gonna lie i completely forgot you can just run items/fluids straight through reactors

[crimson inlet]

and hetonite gears

[sterile stratus]

4:1

[worldly holly]

eh no just use inert into purification and it took 10xira/Hxira

[trim star]

8:1

fear

[sterile stratus]

fearful

[marble yarrow]

25/min dense meta transfer for LC (xiranite auto-clog)

[trim star]

all that work for a quarter belt of the evil red glowy rock

[sterile stratus]

-1/6 lol

[tawny shadow]

100% scam..
more than 3x the price of cuprium
but gives the equal value of stats
even if they give the right stats still a scam

[crimson inlet]

I feel like a plumber trying to make this work with all my sources not labelled

[rain schooner]

if i do the 4 cuprium things to the crucible build, can i loop the acid in between the machines and it wont clog?

[worldly holly]

or make this for SC

[static isle]

damn
what do I do with the one lone xiranite line saved after using inert effluent for heavy xiranite

[cobalt oriole]

But is it more value that stringe is the qns

[trim star]

wonder what random mechanic they will drop on us in a third region

[jovial breach]

you need 6m to buy out the 300k catalysts💀

[crimson inlet]

I feel like I gotta use the ornamentals as abstract labels

[tawny shadow]

yea I sent the inert to xircon already so 15xira/Hxira for me

[tawny haven]

so.... made the new expanded reactor, now my xircon and shit plummeted in production like wth

[sterile stratus]

same question

[marble yarrow]

nope. thats a lot of power

[shell hinge]

Sewage purification into xircon effluent is confirmed for 1.2

[sterile stratus]

i have 40 million power!

[trim star]

ok but not wuling

a third region

like next entire map

[jovial breach]

why self clog just let it run out on its own?

[sterile stratus]

car

[shell hinge]

I hope it's not something belt based like wuling

[static isle]

not making components rn because none of my team use new gear
so i've just been making heavy xiranite and parts

[marble yarrow]

have u seen early endfield like, desert-like map

[trim star]

car sounds nice

[crimson inlet]

i also need to expand this

[sterile stratus]

it should be surely nice

[wispy grove]

bro u okay? its in the test area? may 14?

[worldly holly]

120 more but SC sell for more bill

[tawny shadow]

the annoying thing about hetonite is not only the price
it's when you stop farming hetonite comps
I put so much work for building the factory (I should have used bp lol) and it will be taken down once I get like 1-2k of it

unless hetonites has more usage in the future

[sterile stratus]

what's the area of those 4 forges

total

[trim star]

mf the next region after wuling

i do not need to reenunciate this

[cobalt oriole]

Itll be used to make the highest lvl of stringe

[crimson inlet]

idk

[cobalt oriole]

If u check there are hetotite bottles

[sterile stratus]

press x and choose the whole production line

[marble yarrow]

did u count the treatment and packaging?

[tawny shadow]

what's stringe?

oh syringe

[wispy grove]

[trim star]

quantum mechanics

[crimson inlet]

but i can fit prolly 2-3 more

[tawny shadow]

hmm I see I didn't realize that

[cobalt oriole]

There are hetotite bottles in the game

[sterile stratus]

oh lol

[dawn sluice]

I'm a whole patch late (laziness) but whatever

[shell hinge]

Is this only for liquids?

[trim star]

yeah test area soon tm

[tawny shadow]

aite I'll just keep the hetonite then thx for letting me know

[marble yarrow]

is this lodespring or idk

[wispy grove]

[dawn sluice]

took me 3 hours to make it this compact

[sterile stratus]

looks like, but looks unlike

[trim star]

good question

[worldly holly]

fr i forgot treatment also use power so 220 more ...

[willow snow]

does anyone have a blueprint for a working cd that can make fangyis armor

[ruby sorrel]

can't you just toss it into the sewage treatment you have to run anyways

[marble yarrow]

very desert feel tbh

[crimson inlet]

sewage is waranted for dumping, not water treatment

[marble yarrow]

middle east patch rahhhh

[sterile stratus]

mhm looks like now

[trim star]

interesting map

[sterile stratus]

do we have OIL in the next patch!?

[crimson inlet]

DAMN YOU SAFETY INSPECTOR, NOW I SPEND MORE FOR POWER

[trim star]

true...

[sterile stratus]

THE MAP IS PROMISED

[oak merlin]

why does it take 5 hetonite per part this makes no sense wth

[trim star]

next region will come with combustion and then we will get car

[sterile stratus]

the 4:1 rate makes no sense wth

[crimson inlet]

5 hetpa for 1 gear?

[trim star]

futureproofing i guess

[crimson inlet]

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/freedom-america

[trim star]

you need 4 to make 1 hetonite solution and it takes 2 to make one hetonite so it's 8:1

[lone plover]

I'm only at 180 Cuprium where's the other 60

[sterile stratus]

freedom is coming to endfield

[crimson inlet]

can we spray acid to our enemies

[oak merlin]

part, 2 parts per gear

[crimson inlet]

oh

[sterile stratus]

the 2:1 sounds fair, not the 4:1

[trim star]

then you take 5 hetonite and turn it into one part

so it's 40:1

[subtle finch]

items and liquids

[sterile stratus]

yes..

[crimson inlet]

yeah, 2:1 is minimum

[trim star]

and then you need 2 parts for component so it's 80:1

case in point

bad

[sterile stratus]

sadge

[crimson inlet]

since you get... 180 cuperium, 2 for cup parts and 4 for hetonite

[marble yarrow]

buh

[sterile stratus]

i knew that...

[crimson inlet]

I need vid proof of it dealing damage

[trim star]

you can just straight sell hetonite part so we're just ignoring drinks now

[crimson inlet]

that's my main mission rn XD

I demolished my drinks for hetonite production

[sterile stratus]

what's better to sell

i didn't check the hetonite price

[shadow void]

So whats ideal production numbers?

[trim star]

combine hetonite part with hetonite bottle and a drink for like evils idk

[crimson inlet]

het is 48 per unit

[slender oasis]

how many acts of the story did they release? How long is the story?

[crimson inlet]

syringe or drink is 22 per unit

[oak merlin]

i would assume drinks because it takes so long to make hetonite anything

[trim star]

drinks for like 6% or something?? idk?? it's not needed

[sterile stratus]

hmm

[shadow void]

Heto parts take ferrium so it eats into SC bats

[worldly holly]

fr so 50 more power here but 50 less on cuprium, sewage somewhere else, um about 180 more power for uhh 2 more bill per mins?

[crimson inlet]

I think you can get 2 more ferrium lines for hetonite

so SC bats aren't affected that much

[sterile stratus]

there's 90 ferrium and my bats are eating 60

[trim star]

yeah

[sterile stratus]

30 should be enough...

but again idk what's more worth it

[shadow void]

how many SC batteries do you make /m

[valid gazelle]

oh god wtf is this...

[sterile stratus]

12

[rich dagger]

Do i need start refining caprium at the new location because only acid is there?

[trim star]

you should be universally getting 12 batteries

something isnt getting used if you arent getting 12

[sterile stratus]

universally?

[crimson inlet]

no, refine till powder in main, then acid in acid area

[trim star]

you can get quite a bit above 12

[sterile stratus]

mhm

[crystal sundial]

is it worth to produce hetonite atp? xd

[crimson inlet]

make hetonite in acid area, it'll be a lot easier

unless space is restrictive enough

[marble yarrow]

either way, same total production values

[shadow void]

well i'm making jincao drink still on the side, must be miss remembering how much ferrium i use with just 12 bats

[trim star]

you have way more than enough space to do anything you want in the sub area tbf

[sterile stratus]

bruh

[trim star]

you could even choose to not use it by just

[sterile stratus]

i was expecting something lol

[trim star]

getting acid to main area

smile

[crimson inlet]

they're the SAME!?

[ruby sorrel]

ah the medC balance yet again

[shell hinge]

I estimate hetonite parts at ~4% less efficient due to power costs. That said, I also think that's worth it because the event is known to consume hetonite

[rich dagger]

oh right i forgot i can make heavy xiranite somewhere else

[sterile stratus]

well i'll go for 6 yazhen and the rest for hetonite xd