aic-factory

[subtle finch]

nooooooo, i forgor to set an outpost liaison

[sleek needle]

I increase my production on those flowers but usage increased instead

[small creek]

oh my god noooooo

[granite socket]

has anyone gotten to lvl4 for the jingyu valley outpost?

[small creek]

Bro hates money

[marble yarrow]

gahhh

[crimson inlet]

so... what's the point of the ornamentals?

besides... decoration?

[static isle]

decor

nothing else

[small creek]

Thats literally what theyre for

[subtle finch]

excess profit flex

[small creek]

True

So, does everyone have their tianshi pillars already

[crimson inlet]

imagine it gives +price of items...

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-money-vince-mcmahon-money-wwe-capitalism-gif-23623669

[sleek needle]

@little sapphire @midnight harness #aic-factory message

[crimson inlet]

yeah, I also bought those new ornamentals on Valley IV

[sleek needle]

I increase plant production but why usage also increase?

[static isle]

we have 8 forges now right
you only need one forge for heavy xiranite for hetonite so that's 7 left?

[fluid fog]

Getting ready for Heavy Xiranite

[crimson inlet]

is there a new battery type for wuling or...

[keen river]

probably you were starving something and it wasnt running at full capacity

now that you have more plants, it runs faster

thats probably about it

[sleek needle]

can I livestream in this server?

[keen river]

i wouldnt worry too much

[timid gate]

Wait this aic plan sounds weird, did we get +4 on what we had in qingbo or is it +4 from the base 1 we had?

[sleek needle]

my factory always power outage for past few days

that's why I'm worried

those two plants are essential

[timid gate]

How many forges can we place now? 8?

[midnight harness]

what seems to be the issue

[sleek needle]

plant production

[marble yarrow]

fr

[sleek needle]

I already add in two buckflower production and another sandflower production

[timid gate]

Guys?

[marble yarrow]

yes 8 total

[sleek needle]

but it increase production and also consumption

[timid gate]

Ok ty

[small creek]

okay. gold chubby lung how

[midnight harness]

you want a blueprint for it?

[crimson inlet]

blud is blackstone

[midnight harness]

so you trying to get more plants produced for ur factory right

[sleek needle]

I already the Optimal Valley from this server altho not full capacity

also, I'm already worried about the Ferrium ore

[marble yarrow]

what is money

[small creek]

i know but like HOW

BRO

did u even upgrade the depot/monitoring

[crimson inlet]

what's your setup for sandflower?

[keen river]

the tricky is not buying the artificing mats

[marble yarrow]

fr

[small creek]

Okay i did not even know that theres a monitoring terminal for marker stone

Im cooked

But i dont care im going to sleep

[marble yarrow]

oop, more money

[sleek needle]

that is one but also, my Ferrium ore. Once I place that Capsule A, the whole usage of my Ferrium ore spikes up. #aic-factory message

[crimson inlet]

he saved up on bankrupting tangtang, only to get a golden chubby lung like how a warlord gets a golden AK XD

[vapid dock]

wait we cant choose which fluid goes where in the output of a purification unit

[midnight harness]

yes thats how it supposed to work if you put more facility it takes more stuff

[vapid dock]

and we cant flip the building horizontally, FANTASTIC

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-kratos-kratos-falling-gif-6333762479708829172

imagine purification unit purifies sewage into water

[sleek needle]

but you see, the usage more than production

[crimson inlet]

capitalist flexing

[marble yarrow]

nice qol

[midnight harness]

some of your yield went missing,

[tender thistle]

Guys just to confirm - our final output products for wuling is just SC Bats, Heavy Xiranite, and Hetonite Parts and/or Comps?

[sleek needle]

probably not in the main AIC area. That's why I'm proposing to livestream my base right now

[crimson inlet]

no one wants to deliver in wuling 💀

[marble yarrow]

imagine, all are just doing AIC so they forgot to pack delivery

[midnight harness]

im a bit too busy for that atm and its like 11pm

[sleek needle]

And I'm on 00:11

[midnight harness]

try to check if you mined everything in your map first

[crimson inlet]

imagine, every delivery attempt is a time-out notice tagged

[marble yarrow]

fr

[crimson inlet]

Pilipins

[sleek needle]

there is one area that I couldn't enter

[midnight harness]

i havent played the game fam i need to catch uptoo 😭

[onyx drift]

anyone got a blueprint for the new components?

[sleek needle]

Bridge Approach Camp

[crimson inlet]

god I hate this country

[marble yarrow]

uhm

[crimson inlet]

also, when story mentions that the pillars needrd heavy xiranite for repairs, my heart dropped because of the thinking power I'll be using to produce those with my current setup

[marble yarrow]

bro i cant interact lmao

BRICKED

[marble yarrow]

SORRY <DELIVERY OWNER> INTEGRITY COMPROMISED

[onyx drift]

anyone got a blueprint for the new components?

[small creek]

psa, theres bonus login rewards on skport

ill go to sleep now

[grand vault]

All fail battles are because of insufficient firepower!
-Sledgehammer Mortar gang-

[marble yarrow]

WHO EVEN USES PYLON ON ALLUVIUMS LMAOOO

[sleek needle]

See? Now, it's alr powering down

[crimson inlet]

"They gave us mortars like God gave Napoleon artillery"

[sleek needle]

that's why I need someone to see my setup

[marble yarrow]

bro i have to mission so NPC can return but my delivery still has integrity counter LMAOOOO

[grand vault]

me, I don't wanna waste batteries every time I grind the spot
rather keep them for sales

[crimson inlet]

show your inner Amazon Delivery guy

destroy the fragile parcel

[dull island]

someone with more brain power then me is 10 batteries/6 meds and 1.5 of the new comp possible

[marble yarrow]

trust me, 1 SC will last a loooooong time

[young girder]

Could someone help me understand why this works? I'm not dumping the sewage so I was expecting it to get clogged eventually but so far it just keeps going

[marble yarrow]

my qingbo turrets are still 49/50 SC

[grand vault]

I know, I'm just greedy

[nova osprey]

take a screenshot of your setup

[deft orbit]

i think we don't actually need more Ferrium, the math is mathing, only 1 battery machine, the rest goes to heavyu xiranite and hetonite parts

[crimson inlet]

the color wheel for factory workers

[sleek needle]

Where did it all went wrong? ⁠Why is it dying again? #help message

[wispy grove]

i dont think the 3 recipe is working

[crimson inlet]

are the new gear even worth it for 1.0 teams?

[wispy grove]

its a sequencial recipe

[obsidian crane]

Ok bringing acid to main was lowk easier than I thought with the lake just south of wuling city

[wispy grove]

especially if the ingredients are at 0

[iron spoke]

is liquid heavy xiranite just for future use? no use currently?

[marble yarrow]

a formula creates 30/min sewage, then another formula uses the same value. so its sustainable

[crimson inlet]

oh god

[quasi locust]

your crucible runs 3 reactions, liquid xiranite, xircon effluent and xircon. it's not fully efficient however since you need 2 xircon eff to produce 1 sweage, so it's producing xircon at half efficiency (assuming you didn't feed xircon eff externally)

[young girder]

All the inputs are 1 every 2 seconds except the powder which is at 4 seconds. So I expect a sewage excess of 1 per 4 seconds since I'm not dumping it yet it doesn't seem to build up

[stone rune]

Whats the maximum yield of ores in wuling now

[small creek]

480 90 180

[quasi locust]

cuprium ore 120/min -> 180/min, others no change

[stone rune]

thanks

[nova osprey]

might just be a priority thing

[young girder]

Hmmm, I'm scared it will get clogged if I go offline

[subtle finch]

i think a better explanation is that comparing it before with normal reactors, that clogs because there's no slot for the product to be produced.
this has enough slot for all types of ingredients, so its more akin to a normal unit like grinder for example, clogging wont halt its production

[reef horizon]

How close are y'all satisfactory head's to a perfect/near perfect bp

[subtle finch]

if your planter shows clogging sign, you're not worried

[nova osprey]

did you fix your issue you had earlier?

[reef horizon]

Yes

[marble yarrow]

i think your setup isnt putting out 30/min of xircon

[nova osprey]

aye nice

[reef horizon]

The only issue now is that I literally have no aic

[nova osprey]

lol

[reef horizon]

And I don't wanna paste a whole old one to replace it in a couple hours

[young girder]

Yeah I know, I was running it at half efficiency trying to understand why it works

[marble yarrow]

aight, sounds better 🔥

you can improve it by changing the sewage input into a xircon effluent input. thats the one thing left for efficiency

[iron spoke]

it won't run out of sewage?

[marble yarrow]

it wont

[shell holly]

Should i delete my LC wuling battery and start getting WC? I lowkey missed out big update

[iron spoke]

so let it run for awhile. purify the inert then feed that back and replace the sewage input?

[marble yarrow]

yeah but the inert you purified alone isnt enough, needs an external help

[jovial breach]

Wait its not enough?

[marble yarrow]

this one is sustainable

[iron spoke]

ah the inert is still only half as fast?

[marble yarrow]

you need 4 inert to generate 1 effluent

[jovial breach]

You need 4 inert to run purification at 100%

[iron spoke]

damn 1/4 lol

[stray fractal]

Can someone tell me what am I doing wrong here?

[timid gate]

Can you make an entire 100% efficiency zircon farm in 1 expanded crucible now?

[marble yarrow]

actually best is to run 4 expanded reactors on 12/min SC,

then the 4x 1/4 lines make up a xircon effluent for the heavy forge to use

[jovial breach]

It's turned off

The crucible

[marble yarrow]

nope, you need 2

[stray fractal]

No changes after turning it on

[iron spoke]

thats with each expanded running at half speed xircon?

[jovial breach]

Oh you need water to make xiranite fluid

[timid gate]

For what exactly? Like what would each one make?

[iron spoke]

so share the ferrium powder?

[devout egret]

How many pumps you got hook on the conduit outlet? It just one pump then it cant supply 4 of those crucible.

[marble yarrow]

first one runs the triple formula, 2nd one generates the extra effluent

[stray fractal]

I do have it tho?

[stray fractal]

How the heck do I connect more?

[marble yarrow]

no, the 2 reactors produce the xircon, while the other 2 helps the first 2 reactors with their effluents

[devout egret]

Use pipe converger

[marble yarrow]

this one is a 6/min xircon (100%)

[iron spoke]

oh the water is also at 1/4th speed in purification unit? does that need to be expelled? or can just let it clog in there?

[marble yarrow]

you need to expel the water byproduct, or else the purification clogs

[shell holly]

Guys is the depot bus in wuling only limited to 1 or am i missing something?

[upper fiber]

uh time for sleep

[uneven aspen]

get the upgrades at the steward

[deft orbit]

right now the max forges are 8, right?

when are we getting the 12th?

[marble yarrow]

2nd half of this patch

[delicate seal]

Can the expanded crucible make 2 formulas at the same time?

[shell holly]

Ohh

Ty

[deft orbit]

so the idea as of now is 6 machines doing heavy xiranite and 2 doing bateries, no?

in therms of "forges"

[golden sapphire]

that second half genuinely needs to give me enough cuprium to drown in it

[graceful otter]

is there higher ferrium usage now or its still the same? also what max curpium ore input currently?

[upper fiber]

180

[atomic fiber]

are we finally at the point where single line factory just not the sane design choice anymore? and modular design probably what we should target?

[upper fiber]

for your sanity, yeah

mine still ugly but at least it works, maybe i'll tweak it on weekend

[cedar bay]

What am I supposed to do with the acid output

[upper fiber]

drink it

[wispy grove]

put it back to the pool

[cedar bay]

Cool thanking you

[atomic fiber]

free piss

[pliant ginkgo]

Ngl this new level of factory is getting beyond my level of comprehension

[jovial breach]

Feedback loop if you want to be cool

[quasi locust]

you can merge it back for one line of acid. it's very stable

[iron stratus]

what yield should i shoot for for max stock bills

[fluid fog]

we actually lacking Cuprium LMAO

[devout egret]

Welp good thing i saw this i was trying to use only 1 extended to crucible to make xircon production.

[wispy grove]

IM SO TIRED BRO

[chrome remnant]

Did the production line stop if the item reaches cap in the warehouse? Jesus, this is the 2nd time my base power got shutdown because of this. The battery production stopped and no more batteries were pump to the two thermal banks

[jovial breach]

Can someone check my report before i go to sleep

[upper fiber]

same result....

[jovial breach]

😭 finally

[upper fiber]

well, it is the optimal one for now

[marble yarrow]

these configs have the same bills generation lmao (all have 12/min SC, 6/min heavy xiranite, 30/min xiranite):

How to use 180/min of Cuprium:

0 Yazhen A + 1.625 Yazhen C + 22.5 Hetonite
3 Yazhen A + 2 Yazhen C + 15 Hetonite
6 Yazhen A + 2.375 Yazhen C + 7.5 Hetonite
9 Yazhen A + 2.75 Yazhen C + 0 Hetonite

[olive cloak]

is there a simple hetonite blueprint that only uses the new cuprium we got

[quasi locust]

if the production is starving due to somewhere else clogging, definitely

looks like you ran out of xircon here

[wispy grove]

how are u using 90 ferrium?

[quasi locust]

perhaps you can place the thermal bank at the top sc battery

[chrome remnant]

it is the second time it got this, only after I reached 58k batteries in the warehouse

[fluid fog]

So we can only do 30/m

[silver smelt]

how many new cuprium nodes are there in the new map?

[fluid fog]

only 60

if I actually added it, it will make 45/m

[upper fiber]

need to choose what bat to use, maybe 2 sc with pwm, using hc valley bat need manual transfer 🦥

[quasi locust]

hmm, actually it's more reliable to pull battery from depot to thermal bank, you can try that too

[jovial breach]

It's actually less than 90 but im also storing the excess so it's full 90

[marble yarrow]

im using HC + SC for 4500 power, and i might go back to PWM that 2nd SC

[upper fiber]

everyone will have same factory in the end.... just different heto comp ratio

[jovial breach]

Do i really need pwm

[dire vapor]

Its getting there slowly

[upper fiber]

up to u, 1.5/min bat won't hurt much

[jovial breach]

You still make more than outpost right?

With 3/min consumption

[upper fiber]

i forgot to use that new conduit, no wonder my factory full of pipes

should i change job to conduit hater

[jovial breach]

Yeah the new conduit is neat

[marble yarrow]

5x6 fluid reservoir when

[timid gate]

Chat, can I combine 2 sewage outputs from 2 cupprium refinement plants into 1 pipe? Cause pipe has flow rate of 2 units/sec no?

[jovial breach]

Yes

1 refinery is only 0.5 per sec

So 1 pipe can do 4 sewage refinery

[timid gate]

Same with water right?

[twilit iron]

i just discovered that doesnt matter how much water you put in if you dont direct where it should go, it wont go to where you need it the most

like here

the only place which isnt flowing water constantly

[timid gate]

Water works too right? Like 1 water pipe can give enough water to 4 refinement?

[edgy kindle]

Any NA heto components bp

[jovial breach]

Indeed your correct

[iron stratus]

how much water does a high and low purity node use

[jovial breach]

High uses 1/3 water per sec, low uses half of that so 1/6

[iron stratus]

1/3 water as in 1/3 of a pump or 1/3 of a pipe

[jovial breach]

1/3 of a pump, because pump is 1 water per sec

[crude pulsar]

yo did they deadass didnt add more basic material beside cuprium in this patch?

[dire vapor]

I just realized maybe this might not work because it doesn't seem like the manifolds can support more than 1 type of liquid...

[ancient crane]

i'm not understanding something; i'm following a blueprint video for 1.2 but this person seems to have two depot bus ports in one area but they never pan over to it? but they're unloading from depot bus sections on two different, completely unconnected parts of the aic area? is there some way to be able to deploy a second depot bus port?

[dire vapor]

Upgrade your aic area

[ancient crane]

ahhh thank you, i thought i'd done this already

[keen river]

guess we will get new tech during the next map?

[unreal crater]

How many forges do you guys have working for heavy xiranite?

[fluid fog]

next tech will add 4 more forge.

in May 14

[keen river]

ah true

[fluid fog]

At Test Area map

[merry wagon]

1

7 for regular xiranite

[cyan forge]

Hetonite part sells better than yaz A, right?

Cupri valuewise?

[fluid fog]

1 Heavy Xiranite, 7 Light Xiranite.

[patent lava]

Any Heavy Xiranite & Hetonite blueprints out there for NA i can use without the need of a depot bus since my new sub pac aint maxed i just unlocked it

[fluid fog]

make less 2 Light Xiranite cause thats need for 1 Heavy Xiranite. So you have 5 Light Xiranite, but 4 of it u use for SC Bat. so u have extra 1 Light Xiranite.

Now what I supposed to do with that extra, I already full in Other Gear Component except the new one Hetonite.

[cyan forge]

Did anyone make cupricium ore value conversion when being made into yaz A vs hetonite parts?

[fluid fog]

you can assumed it will double

[patent lava]

Asia is so lucky to have people already dumping blueprints meanwhile im on NA searching for scraps

[cyan forge]

Just redo what asia alr used

[subtle finch]

they're basically 1:1

[cyan forge]

U r luckier cos u don't have to wait as much if u put in sum effort

[merry wagon]

I think it balances out in the end anyways, I don't have extra light xiranite somehow

[timid gate]

Chat, can the expanded crucible do multiple production in the exact second?

[cyan forge]

Oh fr? That's kinda sad

[fluid fog]

Nah, Asia is just build different, they don't actually use Blueprint but to Flex it.

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message

[silent violet]

just making sure, you can use merge pipes of 2 different fluids as long as the total throughput is < 2 right?

[subtle finch]

that's actually good, you can make anything you want as long as you consume all cuprium, and not feel bad about it

[patent lava]

Yea if i had the time

[cyan forge]

Right

[cyan forge]

If u don't have time, just wait for others to replicate it

[fluid fog]

maybe? but I dont want to risk it.

[cyan forge]

It's literally gonna be faster than what asia ppl had to do

The dif seem to just be the ferium leftover huh... @subtle finch

[quasi locust]

only one fluid can exist in each section of pipe iirc, so if you have a really long section, it will take some time to clear and switch to the other liquid

[cyan forge]

Quite nice

[silent violet]

short is fine tho right

[azure sparrow]

does anyone have outpost lv2 yet? curious if het parts are in lv2 outpost too so i know which products i could give up

[silent violet]

pretty sure the total usage will only be like 50%

[quasi locust]

generally, yeah

[cyan forge]

Btw how many power r u guys eating thru now in wuling?

[marble yarrow]

actually hetonite has more value conversion with cuprium alone.

but since you are freeing up ferrium while increasing yazhen A production, ferrium is freed for more yazhen C production

[unkempt estuary]

new crucible so fine

[reef dagger]

we don't have full factory bp yet right?

[signal reef]

makes sense but also kinda hilarious

[reef dagger]

or any bp that's not a pain to setup

[wispy grove]

Ill do the rest tomorrow

[quasi locust]

@silent violet i think this should be a good demo on pipe length vs time for fluid to clear a section

[signal reef]

then again it'll probably be for the best to go all in on hetonite assuming you already got your lvl 1 marker stone mats accounted for

[marble yarrow]

Yazhen A: you turn each cuprium into 66 Bills (lesser ferrium)
Hetonite Parts: you turn each cuprium into 72 Bills (more ferrium)

in terms of power, idk

[young stag]

why isn’t this doing any 30/m

[marble yarrow]

(no reactor in yazhen buhh)

[signal reef]

you need 2 effluents for each xircon

[marble yarrow]

yeah, the 2nd input pipe (other than water) should be another 30/min xircon effluent

[young stag]

so even the simulation gives you a worse factory

lmao

[timid gate]

How many crucibles/expanded crucibles do you need total for a 100% efficiency zircon production, like 30/min

[young stag]

good thing i have a bunch bottled up

[low obsidian]

I am dying

[quasi locust]

seems like your sewage is clogging too, did you feed this reactor water and sewage?

[uneven aspen]

can the expanded crucible do the same recipe multiple times at once?

[marble yarrow]

2 expanded

[wispy grove]

my brain is cooked

Need rest

[young stag]

the other inlet is already sewage though

[wispy grove]

Continue tomorrow

[young stag]

is the sewage made inside the reactor enough to power itself?

[runic shell]

hmm does anyone have blueprint for the new components

[cyan forge]

Same

[marble yarrow]

yes

[quasi locust]

this recipe is not ideal

[timid gate]

2 expanded? What should be the input and output of each?

[cyan forge]

Btw, we have a total of 8 forges rn right?

[marble yarrow]

this is 6/min

top reactor is the triple formula
bottom reactor supplies the extra needed xircon effluent

[young stag]

aight

[timid gate]

Which triple formula?

[marble yarrow]

formulas:
1: liquid xiranite
2: effluents
3. xircon (solid)

[uncut rock]

So I have a question what are the different gear sets for like the ones that need different mat components?

[timid gate]

Then what does bottom do?

[cedar bay]

Can someone explain why these have become unpowered for me?

[marble yarrow]

it produces the additional 1 xircon that is needed, since a single reactor can only produce 1 xircon effluent at a time

[vapid dock]

why is your sewage so purple

[marble yarrow]

its 2 effluent + 1 ferrium

[timid gate]

Do you not need sewage for top one?

[marble yarrow]

you can see that everything is ones

[marble yarrow]

you produce sewage and consume at the same rate

[viral harbor]

someone , is this good for 1.2 or should i drop yazhen and go all in for hetonite?

[timid gate]

Ic, but you still need to jumpstart it then no?

[marble yarrow]

yeah

any sewage amount but not full

[river wadi]

whats the new max ore yield in wuling

[uneven aspen]

180/min cuprium

everything else the same

[cedar bay]

Can anyone help have I encountered a bug why am I getting no power right next to my base?

[signal reef]

you only need 15/m as opposed to 30/m as per usual

[quasi locust]

hmm, you can jumpstart it using xircon eff from the other reactor. jumpstart with sewage isn't necessary

[river wadi]

your pac is too far away

must be within 80 meters

[lost yarrow]

Does anyone have level 2 of the cardiac remediation station (outpost in new area) yet? What is the base stock bill earning rate?

[signal reef]

so if you were using a full pipe from a cuprium line just split that in half

[marble yarrow]

depends. i have no input sewage but look at my xircon output

[river wadi]

raising rdm doesnt increase the purity of the other ores?

[cedar bay]

Strange never had that be an issue before as long as I ran power cables but thank you.

[marble yarrow]

mine needs 24 hours to reach level 2. so i guess no one have reached it yet

[lost yarrow]

yeah, I have zfy stationed there, but the outpost only starts at half-capacity, so I haven't gotten there even with the outpost propserity bonus

[uneven aspen]

nope it says in the menu only increases the new area's purity

[young stag]

oh wait this is a single 30/m setup

nvm

[signal reef]

oh, yeah actually that works too, true

i just went for this instead

[marble yarrow]

if you want the formula use this:

hours = (320,000 - ur current prosperity) divide 1.20 divide 3960 (outpost bill/hr)

[signal reef]

but it does use more power i am guessing

[marble yarrow]

my setup is because i still have stocked inert lmaooo

[lost yarrow]

looks like 23 more hours? rip

also wtf cryston bottle user

[marble yarrow]

cryston enjoyer

[lost yarrow]

does anyone remember what stock bill earning rates were for the sky king flats construction site at lv 1 and 2? thinking about extrapolating to the new outpost

oh, it looks like:
lv 1: 4680/h
lv 2: 12900/h
lv 3: 26880/h

[marble yarrow]

yeah, the base

no bonus

[hearty plank]

anyone has a good blueprint to share for new component in new base?

[young stag]

looks like ass but works so i’m not complaining

[dire vapor]

Lmao

[keen river]

its cool but

[marble yarrow]

aight, something to do after aic, maybe next week 😭

[keen river]

i wish it had two outputs for items

[primal epoch]

can we agree the water purifier is completely useless for a fully optimized setting ?
it needs 4 inert Zircon residues to process 1 Zircon residue.
You need 2 Zircon residues to process 1 Zircon
So you need 4 Water Purifier units to produce enough Zircon residues for a 100% efficiency Zircon production line. Except, there is only 2 liquid entries in the Reactor Crucible, and thats not even accounting the water

[keen river]

yeah, sort of

it essentially provides some free xiranite and thats about it

but the amount is pittable

[marble yarrow]

also 50 power

each

only good use case is since you already have 4 inert outlets for 12/min SC, it can be used for the heavy xiranite

[uneven aspen]

is this talking about now or even when we have 12 forges?

[cyan forge]

Hmm i haven't touched purifier at all

I mean 50 power is w/e so long as it doesn't make u eat another battery

[primal epoch]

free xiranite that you cannot ues (or use in a not 100% efficiency line)

[marble yarrow]

200 power + 120/min inert for 30/min xircon effluent + 30/min water

vs

100 power + 30/min water + 30/min sewage + 30/min xiranite for 30/min xircon effluent + 30/min inert effluent

[cyan forge]

[keen river]

i mean, i just plugged it into my sc battery line and now it uses bit less xiranite..

its something

[cyan forge]

How does purifier work again?

[crimson inlet]

??? no
what you get is by using 2 full lines of SC Wuling Batteries, you produce 120 Inert Effluent, which is exactly how much you want to produce 6/min of Heavy Xiranite
so essentially, instead of voiding Intert, now you add 60/m Xiranite to it and get 6/m Heavy

[keen river]

i jus has two recipes

and thats it

[primal epoch]

Oh wait I forgot that you can merge lines
welp, still need to have 4 purifiers ready, so

[crimson inlet]

why 4 purifiers?

[marble yarrow]

4 lines 1 purifier

[primal epoch]

why would you need to produce 2 full lines of SC batteries is the question tho

[cyan forge]

Oh

Not bad kinda

[crimson inlet]

1 is enough to cover all Inert

[marble yarrow]

what?

[crimson inlet]

because you have enough raw mats to do so

[cyan forge]

Not makin 2 sc line is kinda inting

[crimson inlet]

fr

[timid gate]

What do you do with the inert zircon effluent?

[primal epoch]

I still have room to with the FC batteries, so a single line of SC would settle me for life

[river wadi]

what is fc

[primal epoch]

lower tier, might just be different name in my language setting

[river wadi]

lc wuling battery

[primal epoch]

thanks

[timid gate]

@marble yarrow do you have 24/min battery production or something?

[marble yarrow]

just 12

[river wadi]

how do you get enough originium for 24/min

[cyan forge]

1 sc line is 6/min

2 is 12

[iron spoke]

can clean water go in a treatment unit?

[river wadi]

no i dont think thats how it works

[timid gate]

Just 12 means you have 2 xircon lines no? That means the purification is running at 50% efficiency?

[uneven aspen]

it can go to fluid supply

just have one by the unlimited water lake to dump it

but no to treatment

[crimson inlet]

my current setup (just finished less than an hour ago) makes these numbers of bill coverage:
6 / 120 x (60 - 30 x 0,0625) x 22 x 60 = 3836,25b/h - Syringe A
2 x 16 x 60 = 1920b/h - Syringe C
(12 - 3) x 54 x 60 = 29160b/h - SC Battery
(3 x 0,9375) x 48 x 60 = 8100b/h - Hetonite Part
(6 - (3 x 0,0625)) x 27 x 60 = 16740b/h Heavy Xiranite

[iron spoke]

okay so need to run it to another body of water. understood.

[crimson inlet]

Im at 5,17k/6,6k energy rn

and I make 1890 of the first two components/week, and 4725 of the newest one
all at the same time as the numbers above

[marble yarrow]

its better to use /min

[crimson inlet]

no switching whatsoever

[crimson inlet]

no, because thats bill coverage

[marble yarrow]

people can easily recognize the rates if you show it here

[marble yarrow]

thats a lot

[crimson inlet]

a lot for what?

[timid gate]

Chat how much does hetonite part sell for?

[crimson inlet]

48/unit

[marble yarrow]

so much energy used

power

[crimson inlet]

why do I want to save it?

[marble yarrow]

i mean, its so far

[crimson inlet]

I have free energy to use as many towers as I ever may want to, as well as spam anything in world

[cyan forge]

How do u use so little

Do u not make hetonite at all?

[timid gate]

Ok so the only reason to use heavy xiranite is components and heavy xiranite solution? So if I don't need either of those, I can make 24/min battery or something? Wait no, I won't have enough originium

What do you do with all the xiranite?

[marble yarrow]

my towers only used 1 battery for the whole patch even tho i go here almost everyday

[crimson inlet]

you sell most of the Heavy directly in the 2nd outpost

[timid gate]

Oh.. you can sell heavy to 2nd outpost?

[crimson inlet]

yep

[marble yarrow]

im at max production

[crimson inlet]

heavy is 27/unit there

[timid gate]

Ic... This extended crucible is kinda ass, like only 2 liquid input and output

[crimson inlet]

yeah, it also cant parallelize the same recipe

so its mostly useless

[cyan forge]

Not using all xira?

[young stag]

replaced my 10 crucibles down to 2, it’s a win

extended crucible can make xircon in 1 pot

[timid gate]

I'm so confused, wtf is this

[crimson inlet]

we did get some extra xira that we can stockpile this patch

[marble yarrow]

still using my magic inert bottle stocks

[crimson inlet]

what we did not get is 22/min heto for sure

[cyan forge]

I see

[young stag]

both of those crucibles are making 3 recipes at once

[timid gate]

How are y'all making cryston bottles

[young stag]

liquid xiranite, xircon effluent, and xircon

[timid gate]

Ok, but what are you doing with the extra zircon effluent you get from purifying the inert one

[marble yarrow]

also my premium item

[young stag]

?

[crimson inlet]

make heavy out of it

[young stag]

i feed it back

[timid gate]

What

[young stag]

the inert waste gets purified back into xircon eff, which gets fed back to the crucible

[timid gate]

You need to purify it first no?

[young stag]

cycle repeats

[timid gate]

Yea, but doesn't that throw off the calculation?

[young stag]

not really no

[timid gate]

Cause you're making a bit more effluent than using up

[crimson inlet]

1st pic is SC bats, they give 60/m inert
2 sets of them give 120, equals 6 heavy Xira

[marble yarrow]

acid cryston or acid hetonite? lmaooo

[merry wagon]

anyone tried filling the wuling pit with acid

[marble yarrow]

i mean, who wouldnt

[fervent lodge]

Wuling Very Large Pit

[timid gate]

Wait, so you use the inert to make heavy instead of feeding it back into xircon?

[crimson inlet]

yes

[marble yarrow]

even had my dancing bois

[crimson inlet]

xircon is something you will be redoing later this patch anyways

so dont bother doing something with it after 1.1

[marble yarrow]

oop

[timid gate]

Ic, so how do you get 4 inert lines into the purifying?

[timid gate]

Wtf wdym

[gray socket]

all basins must be filled with acid

[crimson inlet]

Test Area (14th of May) will introduce more recipes for Xircon

[fluid fog]

Alright, Am done with this for now.

[crimson inlet]

like this?

[timid gate]

OMG WE'RE NOT DONE WITH EXPANSION???

[gray oar]

Is there a tool where i can see resource ratios for different production lines?

[crimson inlet]

1 crucible is 30/m inert
any pipe is 120/m liquid, so its safe to send them all down a single pipe

[fluid fog]

Alright, Am done with this for now.

[crimson inlet]

afaik there will also be some unique recipes for AIC factory event, so a third time redoing your factory this patch

[young stag]

only start to worry when you’re in a deficit

[timid gate]

No I mean, before in 1.1, we had 2 lines of xircon right? Wait does each line of xircon produce 2 lines of inert zircon?

[young stag]

plus i don’t exactly make more effluent than i process

[crimson inlet]

yes, 2 lines of 6/m solid xircon are used for 2 lines of SC. Each line gives 60 inert as there are 2 of these formulas in each line

[grave veldt]

4 acid to refund 1 acid? Woohoo, more options to clog

[fluid fog]

you can get Inert Xircon from producing Xircon effluent, that's like 4 of 30/m which is enough to purify it to another Xircon effluent.

[crimson inlet]

so, in 1.2, with 8 forges, you use 7 of them for regular xiranite (180 used for SC and Heavy), 30 spare for components (as well as a bit for stockpiling), and 1 forge works on Heavy Xira

[lyric kindle]

how do i get rid of sewage if im not using it for rn

[lyric kindle]

ty

[zenith shell]

New player. Trying to do the Industrial Explosives unlock quest but can't proceed cuz I'm out of Aketine. I'm trying to produce more Aketine but Seed Picking unit is clogged. When I check, it's set to Originium Ores. How do I change this?

[fervent lodge]

shift-click ores

take them out of the slot

[idle jolt]

HEEEELP, how do i get extra power output or is it only through the thermal banks? shi

[jovial breach]

last ss before i sleep

[marble yarrow]

oh ur fully using the hetonites

[jovial breach]

still dunno what to do with 30/min extra xirainte

[sick basin]

Then wake up and everything is fucked

[jovial breach]

i mean why not

[marble yarrow]

they have future usage, maybe stock a few

in this patch at least

[jovial breach]

[crimson inlet]

you can throttle gearing units and send them like 6,25% of a belt of Xira, getting 1890 of components a week

[marble yarrow]

maybe 1/3 hetonite to depot, then 2/3s to your comps (which i did, then half parts to depot and half to comps)

[grave veldt]

My reaction to those new "use 4, refund 1" designs How do i even pipe pasta to avoid cloging or it is dump it time?

[jovial breach]

im making 4.5/min parts, sending half of that to component

[crimson inlet]

as we are now not scarce on ferrium, we can drop Syringe C and metatransfer the required originium, as now we do not have any to spare

[crimson inlet]

Im talking about xira/cuprium comps

these

[viral harbor]

make lc wuling battery with dense originium powder from meta storage to get more sc battery for selling

[fluid fog]

Much more free space than I anticipated.

[keen river]

yeah, wuling has plenty of free space

[jovial breach]

oh that makes sense

[keen river]

especially if you arent producing everything

[viral harbor]

i see lot of ppl forgetting bout lc batteries T_T

[marble yarrow]

my jingyu for 6 xira forges, cardiac for all hetonites

[ornate sorrel]

HOW MANY CUPRIUM DO I NEED TO GET A STABLE HETONITE PART INCOME

[cyan forge]

W8 u can do that?

[crimson inlet]

as they are not needed to max out on bills or components/week

[cyan forge]

Wah

Teach me sempai

[iron spoke]

what are you using to produce the bottled effluent? the inert output isn't enough to create the input for your setup?

[zealous raven]

Bro there are liquid all over my screen 🫩🫠🥲

[reef horizon]

does anybody have a bp for just heavy xira?, i just need outpost prosp badly and its late

[cyan forge]

I can run my factory w 1 sc and 1 lc!?

[viral harbor]

2 lc and 1 sc

6.6k power

[cyan forge]

I'd rather not go to 6.6k for no reason tho

[viral harbor]

then 1 lc

[cyan forge]

1 sc 1 lc is 5.2k, no?

[crimson inlet]

why do you try to save up the energy? whats the benefit?

[cyan forge]

W the aic thingy

[sly relic]

wait, there's a secret cuprium mine in a side quest???

[fluid fog]

I all in my 180/m cuprium. then will less later if its too much.

[viral harbor]

4.8k

[cyan forge]

I just want to do it. It's my acc anw

[crimson inlet]

fair

[cyan forge]

Oh... W8 lc is 1.6? Demn

[viral harbor]

ye

[cyan forge]

I take it back

[ornate sorrel]

seems like i need 240 if i want to get max speed hetonite part? but thats not possible rn so...

[cyan forge]

Fuk the lc

[fluid fog]

I only gonna do PWM if I only use 1/4 of 1 bat capacity.

[viral harbor]

if ur doing sprinklers in farming , turrets for auto clearing energy alluvium , zipline towers around map etc , ull prolly need that much

[sly relic]

im at 240/m now

[cyan forge]

Am at like 5.3k or sth

[timid gate]

How is your sewage stable? Mine keeps running out cause each xircon takes 2 effluent, but only returns 1 sewage

[cyan forge]

So not that much yet

[fluid fog]

Yup, its not possible to do 30/m hetonite parts, only like 3/4, maybe in May 14 after new area unlocked.

[crimson inlet]

240 cuprium? where is the location of the quest one? can you send a pic?

[viral harbor]

i should be around 5.6k but im too lazy to turn off turrets in outpost defense etc T_T

[sly relic]

im just trolling, sorry.

[cyan forge]

Just take out pylon and replace w battery

Takes like a min max

[ornate sorrel]

No wonder your banner haven't rerunned for so long

[viral harbor]

good idea

[dreamy jungle]

i want depot for liquids

[unkempt estuary]

so we can actually replace 3 old crucibles with 1 new crucibles with no issues at all in our battery lines?

[viral harbor]

oh wai it also reduces power doesnt it

[unkempt estuary]

ofc it does

[fluid fog]

Make alot of this.

[viral harbor]

dam my ocd will want me to replace that too now T_T

[crimson inlet]

it will save you a total of 100W from 2 SC lines yeah

[cyan forge]

Water tank

[crimson inlet]

5 reactor -> 2 expanded

[unkempt estuary]

nah I was asking if it messes up anything in the long run

as far as I've tested it does work flawlessly

btw not being able to select the outputs of the purifiers is a mistake, hope they fix it next patch

[ornate sorrel]

so question: is there anything else we can do with originium aside from batteries? Asking this cuz if we're using (2 + 1)x2 forge on heavy xira, and 2 for xira for battery 2, that would leave a lot of unusued Originium

[iron spoke]

xiranite component?

[jade hare]

I see a lot of diff blueprints for the new update but idk which to use, anyone know which is the best?

[ornate sorrel]

that still needs some spare xiranite so probably not

[crimson inlet]

Id say you might not want to make 2 heavy xira formulas, as converting xira into SC bats is more bill-efficient

[iron spoke]

some people like using originium for HCV battery then

[ornate sorrel]

depends on if battery 2 is even available in the second wuling outpost though lol

but yeah theres an unusued forge rn

oh

[crimson inlet]

1 xira line + syringe/tea covers the needs of lvl1 outpost, and for lvl2 Im pretty sure SC will be available

[ornate sorrel]

maybe i should just

[crimson inlet]

if not then it will def eat heto

[ornate sorrel]

half speed heavy xira

[subtle finch]

stable at last, for now

goodnight talos II

[fervent lodge]

talos II has no night

[ornate sorrel]

wait how do you get the xircon fluent needed for the half speed heavy xira?

[fervent lodge]

wait. TEN SECONDS?

what are these ratios

[crimson inlet]

6/min as it is for most of the mats

[ornate sorrel]

oh

[fervent lodge]

yeah but then we have 4:1

which makes everything very funny

[marble yarrow]

heavy indeed

[ornate sorrel]

ok yeah i misread the thing then

[crimson inlet]

why 4:1

its 2:1

[fervent lodge]

purification

[crimson inlet]

use inert from your SC bats

[silent violet]

is it possible to use a purification unit as a passthrough

[fervent lodge]

no

can't select outputs

[crimson inlet]

nope, cant configure them

[silent violet]

yeah but what if you pipe in the thing thats already being outputted

[fervent lodge]

it'll clog

[silent violet]

what if you manage the input rate

[signal reef]

it's not a reactor crucible, it works like other factory things

[silver smelt]

how is ur cuprium 180?

[signal reef]

you don't put in the right item nothing happens

[marble yarrow]

it has to satisfy the formula

[fervent lodge]

purification is a simple recipe machine with an input buffer and output buffer

only recipe can transfer to output

[silent violet]

damn gg

[fervent lodge]

meanwhile reactor has shared buffer

[silent violet]

im getting brain damage dealing with pipes

the experience of making compact bps is so much worse with this bs

[fervent lodge]

i stopped doing compact and started doing "looks pretty on a grid"

[tepid wigeon]

Yeah

[crimson inlet]

i had fun but like 40% of the right side is to be gutted after lvl1 outpost is gone

[tepid wigeon]

There's still so much empty space that optimizing is whatever

[marble yarrow]

me already planning the 2nd acid pipe from cardiac outpost to main aic

[uneven aspen]

how many forges should be used to produced xiranite?

[crimson inlet]

7 regular 1 heavy

[uneven aspen]

😔 time to gut my sub aic at the stockade and make it 7 forges

it's at 6 currently

[hearty plank]

need help, what exactly do they mean by fluid supply unit?

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yeah-boi-excited

[silver smelt]

Are there more than 2 mineral beds for Cuprium?

[crimson inlet]

thing that dumps fluid back into the world

[uneven aspen]

fluid supply unit does the opposite of a fluid pump

[tepid wigeon]

should be 180 yield at max

[tepid wigeon]

Dump the excess back into the acid pool

[silver smelt]

These are the only 2 mineral beds right? Or are there more hidden in the clouds?

[hearty plank]

wasnt aware we had one of those , thanks

[tepid wigeon]

Two are right

[marble yarrow]

no other spots

[silver smelt]

aight thank you

[uneven aspen]

it's in the misc tab for some unknown reason

should be depot access tbh or resources

[crimson inlet]

only these 2
check your stockade spots

[sharp mist]

I am missing ferrum so badly

[kindred rune]

how did my purification clog with acid if Im only supplying it from a reactor crucible that uses the outputs of itself and one other purification? shouldnt those both be 1/4 or am I stupid

[silver smelt]

it say's the rigs are working but my yield is only 160. All of the rigs are working

[ornate sorrel]

liquid heavy xira is needed to spray the new aether swamps right?

[crimson inlet]

are you at lvl 10 regional development?

[scarlet cipher]

Is there a convenient BP to just set up the new AIC with the new stuff to make the new gear?

[uneven aspen]

yup

[silver smelt]

Oh, forgot about that part. I'm only at level 9. Thank you

[crimson inlet]

it gives you purity increase in the marker stone yeah

[iron stratus]

if i have a two way splitter and one output goes into a 10/min rate limiter should the other side stay at 110/min

[lunar abyss]

what exactly is the point of the conduit manifold? You can already supply 4 production lines with a single regular conduit

[winged oriole]

Truly mom's spaghetti

[dire vapor]

I thought I would be able to supply two fluid types with it, turns out no its prone to the same problems trying to transport two liquids in a pipe has

[crimson inlet]

could be useful for smth in Test Area, but not sure, manifold is useless rn

[lunar abyss]

does it at least support a higher flow rate of 4/s?

[dire vapor]

Couldn't tell you

I stopped using it afterwards

[low obsidian]

I am making bottle of heavy xiranite

Is it worth?

[dire vapor]

The only advantage it has is its smaller than two conduits

[lunar abyss]

you need it for exploration so yea

[low obsidian]

It seems that Some place need it

[dire vapor]

But then its also bigger than just having one conduit with a pipe splitter

[cyan forge]

How many liquid can manifold store?

[winged oriole]

Manifold is also 500

[lunar abyss]

if it doesn't support 4/s flow that benefit is entirely meaningless

[cyan forge]

What an ass...

W8 what's it for then

[winged oriole]

I think it does support 4/s but let me see

At the very least it's hitting 3 in my setup (that has recycle from purifier)

[lunar abyss]

it does 3?

ah it has some benefit then

regular conduit only does 2

so it'll most likely do 4

oh it does do 4

[winged oriole]

yup, seems like it maxes at 4

[lunar abyss]

I don't think this will ever be useful but at least it is something

since there is no production line I can think of that needs 4 liquid per second in a compact form

maybe if you are low on protocol cap in core aic

[real crescent]

the use is only having to run the cable connection once if you need to get alot of liquid across a larger distance

[sick basin]

Im guessing its "for" the purification unit

Since u nees 4 liquid cuprium

Which is fucking dumb, just a fyi

[dire vapor]

Purification unit only consumes 60/min

[lunar abyss]

4 per 2 seconds

so 2

[dire vapor]

So even it doesn't need 240/min output

[sick basin]

U need 16 cuprium lines for 6/m hetonite comps

[sick basin]

True, mb

[cedar bay]

Am I supposed to have 30 more xiranite somehow?

[lunar abyss]

yea

[fervent pawn]

peak design

right here

not at all spaghetti

[sick basin]

6 forges making xira
1 making liquid xira
1 heavy xira

At least, i habe it so

[fervent pawn]

why liquid xira now? better to have liquid Hxira no?

[lunar abyss]

can finally process all the bullshit now that I have a free forge

[sick basin]

Liquid xira to make effluent for heavy xira

[lunar abyss]

you can purify the inert effluent from the battery production for that

4 inert effluent to 1 active effluent

[fervent pawn]

a

[fervent pawn]

that is not enough, unless you have double battery production

[sick basin]

Does battery line even produce enougj for that

[fervent pawn]

you need 4 inert to make 1 normal and battery production leaves 2 inert

[lunar abyss]

what are you doing with originium if you don't have double

[sick basin]

And evem if
My batts are in wuling
I aint pulling effluent all the way from there to markerstone

[lunar abyss]

yes

[fervent pawn]

it is a space issue and not a using issure

[winged oriole]

You can make heavy xiranite anywhere really

[fervent pawn]

personally i just set it up and it is NOT space efficient

[lunar abyss]

core aic is stupidly big

[fervent pawn]

it is a mess

[sick basin]

You have enough space tho

[fervent pawn]

it is not i don't have enough space potentially, it is i am not having enough space right now cause my design is spaghetti cause i just want the new batteries

[lunar abyss]

I am making it in core aic

[sick basin]

I have yazhenA, both batteries, 4 xiras and both xira and cuprium comps in my aic

[sick basin]

Oh
For some reason it never occured to me to make it there..

[cedar bay]

Yeah, I'm only counting 7 forges but for some reason it won't let me place the 8th. Let me try it without the bluieprint.

[trail mirage]

has anyone made a sub aic with 7 self sustain forges?

[fluid fog]

Hooo... its kinda working using 3 recipe in one Expandable as long as you fill the sewage 1st then disconnect the sewage plug the additonal Xircon effluent it will become self-sufficient.

But still need monitoring when offline.

[lunar abyss]

just connect the four inert effluent outputs to a conduit and purify it, remember to have some way of draining water or it will clog

[cedar bay]

Lets me place it without the blueprint strange

[sick basin]

That saves me some space
I really am dumb

[lunar abyss]

you get 30 extra xiranite to do whatever you want that way

[lunar abyss]

that is neat

[sick basin]

Kinda nothing really

Forgot but, does 1 battery line have 1 inert right?

[fervent pawn]

only thing i am annoyed about is that one of the machines making the effluent needs sewage from an outside source

[sick basin]

Since its 1 per 1s

[lunar abyss]

1 battery has 2 inert

[sick basin]

Wasnt 1 inert needed for xircon or however it was

Ider

[lunar abyss]

xircon does not need inert

[edgy sedge]

was the 8 forge from the stream a myth or is it later?

[sick basin]

Its rn?

[fathom glade]

Is this calculation about right?

[lunar abyss]

you put it in the purification unit last patch

[sick basin]

And 12 on may 14th

[dense spire]

what the max yield for cuprium ore for 1.2 version ?

[sick basin]

180

[edgy sedge]

I don't see the upgrade path on the AIC plan or is there something I'm missing?

[lunar abyss]

play main quest

[dense spire]

dang for the hetonite already eat eat 8 unloader cuprium so no syringe ?

[sick basin]

Then wont it clog?
If both lines habe 2, connect all to get 4
4/s is double needed

[lunar abyss]

it's 2 per second. 4 is for 2 battery lines which produce it once every 2 seconds

[tepid wigeon]

^ if you put all 4 inert into 1 purification that lets you put 2 Xiranite into a forge for 6/min heavy

[sick basin]

U need 16 cuprium lines for 6/m comps
Just suffer with 2 lines from the extra 60 we got and like
0.75 comps/m

[hallow monolith]

idk why I thought these would show up more easily

[scarlet cipher]

They need to change that system badly

[sick basin]

Wait what
They arent every 1s?

I was living in a lie wtf

[dense spire]

im just trying the minimal 3/m already rocket to the moon

[fathom glade]

mb incorrect ferrium math.

4 FOTS --> Create liquid xiranite
1 FOTS --> split between liquid and dry xiranite
2 FOTS--> dry xiranite
1 FOTS --> Heavy xiranite only
1 Time purification salvage is 45 xircon effluent --> Use this to make Heavy Xiranite with the dry xiranite you have
Excess xiranite, Cuprium parts and HX can be used to make respective gears.
if doing bleed feed of 0.5gear/min for all, this scheme is more than sufficient to make all
and very easily passes lvl 1 bill generation of new area. Idk about lvl2 or 3
Final product:
13.25 SC Wuling/min - 3/min consumption
7.5 Yazhen A/min
5.5 Heavy Xiranite/min
0.5/min each component

Base mineral consumption distribution:
Ferrium: 66.25/min
Cuprium: 180/min
Originium: 530/min (Technically 480/min, 50/min Meta-transfer due to dense originium powder)
Excess ferrium can be used to make bottles for Heavy xiranite, or other

[fervent pawn]

i will need to design a space efficient t2 wuling battery production soon. Damn that will take some time

if i want good heavy

[lunar abyss]

every production in this game is 0.5/s

only water pumps is 1/s and pipes can support upto 2/s, regular conduits 2/s and conduit manifolds 4/s

[fervent pawn]

by making use of the inert

[sick basin]

Pipes are only 2/s tho
The new conduit is 4

[deft orbit]

where does that 50/m meta transfer come from? meta transfer can only do 25/m

[lunar abyss]

my bad mistyped

[fathom glade]

Metatransfer of originium cube

it's 1500/min, but since it's 2 originium in one cube

[tepid wigeon]

We can use expanded crucible to condense part of battery process

[fathom glade]

its value is 50/min

Inherently much more value just from transferring 1 cubes over ferrium transfer

[tepid wigeon]

Since we can make it self sufficient on sewage (at least half) and Xircon effluent

[deft orbit]

so the meta transfer is not of originium, but of dense ori powder, like in 1.1

[fathom glade]

Correct

idk the exact name, thanks for the correction

[deft orbit]

make sure to point that out then xD is not the same as originium and can confuse ppl

[tepid wigeon]

Wish metatransfer was 1800 for simple 30/min

[cedar bay]

Got it now that was a bit of trial an error but I can finally ignore my factory for another month.

[fathom glade]

if you can, please help me check the math, thank you!

[lunar abyss]

p sure this is what you should be producing this patch

no need to make meds

[sick basin]

Too lazy to replace
Will do tmr

[tacit quarry]

so about min-max 1.2
what is your strategy?
mine has 7 Xiranite (4 for battery, 3 for making Heavy Xiranite)
so total of 8 skyforge (7+1)
then come to Cuprium, you can use at max 6 depot (total 180)
your option are making either Syringe[A] or Hetonite gear
what do you do in this state?

[sick basin]

I di both

[lunar abyss]

make hetonite parts

[sick basin]

For now

[lunar abyss]

don't make syringe

[sick basin]

Will kill syrinfe for hetonite parts

It basicaly makes no diff

[fathom glade]

What's the sale value of hetonite parts

[sick basin]

Hetonite parts are like what was it,
18 bills/m better

[fathom glade]

Don't think i got that far yet

[lunar abyss]

48

[fervent pawn]

also since i forgor to respond to this, i am also using it for the xiranite components but that is not that relevant since it only uses 2 depots of originium

[deft orbit]

only 1 heavy xiranite maker? why not 2?

[fathom glade]

Oh that's much better than syringe value

[tepid wigeon]

Not enough Xiranite to max 2

[fathom glade]

Is that at level 2 or level 1?

outpost

[tacit quarry]

Alright,
have you reach LV2 yet? what can you sell more item?

[lunar abyss]

4 forges for batteries

2 for heavy xiranite raw materials

1 for heavy xiranite

1 extra

[sick basin]

U cant get lvl2 just yet

[grave veldt]

WHAT will power your base if you do 2 heavy before 12 forges unlock

[lunar abyss]

I haven't but I had stockpiled enough stuff to reach level 2

surely I can sell sc batteries then

[fathom glade]

wait how did you know hetonite parts could sell for 48 then

[sick basin]

Cuz 1st outpost

Buys it too

[lunar abyss]

it sells in jingyu valley

[sick basin]

That prolly needs lvl3

[fathom glade]

It's available to sell in jingyu? goddamn i missed that completely

thank you

I'll reroute my strategy then

[tepid wigeon]

If you do heavy xiranite where you do batteries the inert xircon can be purified without need of extra Xiranite use leaving 30/m free if doing 7 forge

[tacit quarry]

guess I have to make some LC battery for now since syringe is no where near enough

[fathom glade]

Holy shit yazhen is worthless then

[lunar abyss]

just make yazhen a for now instead of hetonite ig

[fathom glade]

Because they use the same number of Cuprium

[fervent pawn]

what would take the same amount?

[tepid wigeon]

I've been using heavy xiranite for lv1 cardiac lol

[deft orbit]

why not 6 for 2 heavys and 2 for bateries?
Yeah, the outpost currently is level 1 only, but that just takes like 2 or 3 days to level to 3, by that time, the most desired material will be the new heavy xiranite, and taking into account we are already selling hetonite parts, having lots of hetonite and lots of SC battery to spend on the first outpost can leave the 2nd one unatended

[tepid wigeon]

If hetonite part was 44 bill it would be equal

[fervent pawn]

true yea

[fathom glade]

Have to do the math but sounds about right.

[sick basin]

Isnt 4 cuprium only 3/min

[tawdry ice]

anyone have 1.2 base blueprints for NA yet

[lunar abyss]

batteries and heavy xiranite both take 2 xiranite, batteries cost double heavy xiranite

[tepid wigeon]

3/min at 48 is more bill than 6/min at 22

[deft orbit]

will bateries be sellable at the new outpost once we are at lvl 2 and 3?

[lunar abyss]

I don't see why not

[deft orbit]

I don't see why yes xD

[tacit quarry]

if you want smooth production
1 SC battery cost 2 xiranite
1 heavy xiranite cost 3 xiranite

[tepid wigeon]

Does Asia server have enough bill for lv2?

[sick basin]

Cuz lvl ups!

[deft orbit]

maybe the level ups unlock hetonite in the new area, not batteries.
it may not be that way, but we don't know

[lunar abyss]

actuallly the inert effluent from sc battery can be purified to effluent for heavy xiranite

so heavy xiranite takes 2 regular xiranite

[tepid wigeon]

Anyone in Asia server?

[lunar abyss]

but sc battery sells for 54 and heavy xiranite sells for 27

and what will you do with the originium then

[deft orbit]

well it still cost 3 since one forge doing heavy is one less doing bateries

[sick basin]

The update dropped at the same time for both servers pookie
Eu cant, asia cant either

[tepid wigeon]

Oh I thought Asia had early cause they have diff reset time

[golden sapphire]

time zone

release the same everywhere

[lunar abyss]

your originium production can only produce 2 batteries, so the other 4 forges need to do something else

[deft orbit]

has anyone managed to make extended crucible 100% efficient doing xircon?

[tepid wigeon]

Yeah too used to og ak where JP is 12 hours ahead or so

[lunar abyss]

this dude has

[timber grove]

my wuling factory in the works rn but am i invited

[tacit quarry]

interesting, so this mean we can make 4 SC battery 1 heavy Xiranite and 1 LC battery?

[oak swallow]

i never understand hw this works, can smoeone tell me what im doing wrong whys it clogged

[tepid wigeon]

Should be able to put on water, sewage, xiranite, ferrium powder, then change out sewage for 2nd Xircon effluent after you start self producing sewage

[lunar abyss]

no

[tacit quarry]

why not?

[tepid wigeon]

Not enough Originium

[lunar abyss]

where is your originium for 4 sc

[sick basin]

Cuz youre not outputting anything

[deft orbit]

btw I take there no need for Valley Batery anymore, right?

[lunar abyss]

your hetonite solution isn't going out

[tacit quarry]

meta storage transfer

[viral harbor]

i think it can only do like 0.75 ish battery's worth?

[lunar abyss]

2 sc batteries use 28800 originum per hour, metastorage gives 1500

[tacit quarry]

my current transfer didnt even use extra dense originium since, now i have to use 2 SC battery for energy

[viral harbor]

he means dense powder

[lunar abyss]

3000 then

[tacit quarry]

my current build ran without using meta transfer

[viral harbor]

u mean 4 SC?

[delicate seal]

Is there a way to slow down the flow in the pipes?

[tacit quarry]

sorry my bad

i meant 4 xiranite for 2 SC

so
2 SC battery
1 LC battery
1 heavy xiranite

[viral harbor]

ye thts doable

[inland wave]

New reactor formula is actually frying my brain rn

[sick basin]

Pipes control ports, ig?
If they work the same way as they do for belts

[inland wave]

Is there anyway to treat the acid water?

I need to get rid of the leftover stuff or recycle it

[delicate seal]

That is my problem too

[sick basin]

Reuse it somewhere
Or dump it back into thr acid pool

[viral harbor]

put it back into the pond?

[delicate seal]

I am afraid it will clog in the long term

[inland wave]

Is that really the only way to get rid of it?

[sick basin]

Yes

[inland wave]

That sucks

[sick basin]

Either reuse or dump back

[lunar abyss]

just put it in a conduit and throw it away using fluid supply unit

[inland wave]

I found a way to reuse some but it’s not really optimal

I’m Better off just dumping it cause it wastes cuprium

Thank youuu

[viral harbor]

ye even if u combine 2 byproduct acid it wont add up to even 1 normal supply of acid

it was like 2/3 ish for me

[sick basin]

If youre running the purification unit at 100% eff while doing hetonite
U should be gettinf 1 acid/2s
So u can feed that into one crucible

Ig

[lunar abyss]

.dump

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[sick basin]

[inland wave]

This, I tried using the byproduct method like we can for sewage but it’s not enough

[viral harbor]

ye

need 3 to be optimal

[sick basin]

I mean, it is
For 1

[tacit quarry]

let me do some calculation
with 2 SC battery
we got 4 Inert xircon per 2sec (+2 :1sec)
recycle need 4 per 2 sec (-4:2sec) = (-2:1sec)
both side are equal
so 1 extra xircon eff every 2 sec (+0.5:1sec)

[inland wave]

It’s just a waste of space and resources just to come up with that extra usage

[lunar abyss]

I am so glad this patch is using the final products for gear

it was so annoying before to have a gear production that didn't fuck everything else up before

[scarlet cipher]

I wish the YTers were faster. I want to start making the new components but I do not like the factory since 1.2.

[lunar abyss]

yes you use that for heavy xiranite before

[sick basin]

1.2 is today

[scarlet cipher]

Err, 1.1 I meant

[sick basin]

Just get to it

[nova cloak]

uhhh why it no make the thing.....?

[sick basin]

Its fun

[viral harbor]

the goat kyostinv needs some time probably to perfect his bp

[lunar abyss]

you put it in forge

[inland wave]

You can make all the parts in the new outpost, no need to tamper with your og factory if you don’t want to

[gray oar]

so how many water pumps can one pipe handle?

[lunar abyss]

not crucible

[lunar abyss]

2

[sick basin]

Unlock it in the aic plan

[idle jolt]

I REALIZED I CAN JUST DO THE THING I DID ON THE RIGHT WITH THE BATTERIES INSTEAD OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING

[tacit quarry]

btw what is expaned reactor for?

[viral harbor]

progress story?

[lunar abyss]

it can do multiple reactions at once

[tepid wigeon]

1 Originium ore output can power 4 thermals btw

[nova cloak]

Ive done everything i unlocked everything im just confused

[idle jolt]

1 output you mean? like the depot unloader can do 4 ?

[sick basin]

Did u upgrade it in the aic plan

[lunar abyss]

#aic-factory message

[nova cloak]

Hmmm wait i think i figured it out nvm

[idle jolt]

im unsure of how many i can do i was thinking of doing lines and lines

[tepid wigeon]

Yes if you split it right

[tacit quarry]

interesting

[idle jolt]

gotcha

ty

[strong shadow]

WE NEED MORE CUPRIUM DAMMIT

[fringe brook]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but is there something the game doesn't explain correctly about water pumps? They say they extract at 1/1s, and most machines take 1/2s, so I should be able to perfectly feed two machines on one pump, right? That's 2/2s, which equals 1/1s. Why do my machines always have full water like I'm over supplying them?
Not really a problem, just seems weird

[viral harbor]

hopefully we might get more on test area map release on may

[lunar abyss]

stop making syringes (if you have stockpile for reaching level 2 in cardiac), hetonite part is more valuable

[strong shadow]

Ooooooh GOOOOD idea

[oak swallow]

ok hold up this shi complicated

[lunar abyss]

hetonite part gives 6 bills per cuprium and syringes give 5.5.

[strong shadow]

Im 90% sure theres a small "rounding error" type thing in favor of us, it produces JUUUST a smidge more so that your facilities dont stop and take a snooze randomly

[viral harbor]

um because it consumes 1 water per 2 seconds for making each part?

or its just server slow issue

[strong shadow]

Nono they did the math right

[lunar abyss]

still you don't get full production, only 4.5 hetonite part a minute instead of 6

more valuable than syringes tho

[viral harbor]

wait im getting confused now

water goes in 2 unit per second

each item take 2 second for 1 water

[fringe brook]

Pipes flow at 2/s, but pumps pump at 1/s

[viral harbor]

ah is that it

[strong shadow]

One pipe can support 2 pumps

[tacit quarry]

totally agree

[strong shadow]

any more itl back up

[fringe brook]

Gotcha. Better that than the alternative, I guess, but bummer for all the "clog" icons, lol

[viral harbor]

alr got it now

[strong shadow]

OK WE NEED FLUID EMPTY BUTTONS INSIDE EVERYTHING

I JUST MISSCLICKED A SINGLE PIPE

AND NOW ALL MY FORGES OF THE SKY HAVE SEWAGE IN EM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA