aic-factory

[keen river]

i think she will just be 5 stars 🤔

[slim vine]

I don't wanna learn
It's complicated😭

[vast iron]

baesically me

[small creek]

You should learn

[young igloo]

no u dont u do daily

[small creek]

It is fun

[young igloo]

his ass isnt even gacha stuff

[vast iron]

learn or suffer the consequences

[small creek]

Also if you do a really good job you can make the factory produce femboy

[sick basin]

They wouldnt tease 5* like this
Shes no, Li Zhiyan is 6*

[slim vine]

What consequences?

[vale topaz]

aren't they, mifu - tangtang - rossi - fang yi - the green haired girl - the vampire motif guy ?

[vast iron]

i didnt ecen do my daily yesterday

[small creek]

Utter lack of femboys

[vast iron]

[nova osprey]

permanently 1/10th of max dmg

[slim vine]

And the lightning girl

[young igloo]

so scary

[small creek]

No femboys must be real tough

[keen river]

green haired girl has different hairdo i think

[sick basin]

The blue haired bird girl

[slim vine]

What does the factory have to do with that?

[young igloo]

cant imagine a life without femboy

[vast iron]

If you dont do your factory perlica will spend your oroberyls to build the factory

[slim vine]

I need 120k tho

[nova osprey]

the items used to make your operators stronger are locked behind factory

[young igloo]

and also theres free oro in the shop (by luck)

[slim vine]

Why is this game so good yet so bad😭

[small creek]

12 FORGES????

[nova osprey]

this is a factory game loll

[small creek]

????????????

[young igloo]

yes

[vast iron]

500 forges.

[young igloo]

8 tmr

[small creek]

I THOUGHT ITS JUST 8

[slim vine]

It's not JUST that, cmon

[small creek]

FAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!

[young igloo]

12 in may

[small creek]

Oh

[nova osprey]

but in all seriousness though, you can just copy a bp if you want to play the other parts

[small creek]

Why even tease the 12

Fuck hypergryph and their drip

[nova osprey]

what else @.@

[vast iron]

Wait isnt that spaghetti short anyways….

[young igloo]

gambling

anime girls

[vale topaz]

the 12 forges patch arrive during re-run banner, after this fang yi banner

[slim vine]

Girls

[vast iron]

.allin

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1487161512144408837/jr2xxrs.png?ex=69c82296&is=69c6d116&hm=f3d753f5f36591c36ee852d059da788a4d2bf7a68158e239f3c1b9e7a1830549&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=640&height=640

[slim vine]

Combat

[nova osprey]

[young igloo]

fuck the combat this game combat is suck

[slim vine]

No it doesn't

[small creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1416708813569921155/1746837745240778.gif

[young igloo]

[vast iron]

your wife fangyi needs you to make more xiranite you better comply

[vale topaz]

the factory must grow.

[slim vine]

She ain't my wife
I don't want her

[young igloo]

lope

my point stay

[keen river]

i think combat isnt too bad, but not all combinattions of characters are equally fun

[young igloo]

for me

im only fight for the oro

[small creek]

can we all agree that rossi teams are fun

[slim vine]

This is still the single gacha I was able to enjoy so Idrc

[young igloo]

yeah about that

i dont have one

[keen river]

laev team melts shit but playing it is so slow, yvonne/tangtang/gilberta team is pretty fun

[subtle finch]

my comp was straight garbage until i added rossi

[young igloo]

[small creek]

Yea so i also dont have rossi

[slim vine]

Bro plays for the love of the game

[small creek]

Im crying

[slim vine]

I just got her

[subtle finch]

i got all trimmed medals with almost no effort because of her

[young igloo]

full character except her btw

[slim vine]

Got me to pity

[small creek]

Go away i dont need your salt

[slim vine]

Cuz I lost the 50/50

To Pog

AGAIN

[young igloo]

also got potentials on other limits btw

[keen river]

vulnerability teams are the Overwhelming Burden Of Thinking 😅

[slim vine]

I got potentials on Pog

[cobalt oriole]

EFO01521e6a237u9aeIoe. Can Asia server peeps help send the blueprint to korean names on friends list. It’s for the korea collab.

[vast iron]

.rossi

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/rossi-arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-cute-gif-11664243219317688317

[small creek]

Now i just wanna fly around with zhuang since i cant get rossi

[young igloo]

SHE FLY???

[small creek]

in combat

her moveset makes her fly

[slim vine]

You'll get Rossi while pulling for Zhuang

Watch

[keen river]

gilberta also flies, but it doesn't really change anything because she just hovers over ground

[small creek]

That would be great actually

[young igloo]

nice tho, free 2k arsenal

[subtle finch]

they really nerfed my angelina, give us the lore accurate who can fly

[vale topaz]

i just wished had enough for tang tang, really want to make a triplet wu ling team with tang tang / mi fu/ fang yi

[young igloo]

thats what i like in this game

u got anime girls even if its not her banner

[slim vine]

A bit of this a bit of that ahh team

[young igloo]

in this case, italian wolf

[vast iron]

give us aic soupsoup recipe

[young igloo]

i should have enough for fangyi

[slim vine]

I want the... Idk her nationality fox

[small creek]

would 30 pulls be enough for fangyi

[young igloo]

she literally speak spaghetti

[slim vine]

Could be

[tall tangle]

how did my factory refuge turned into a waifu fight?

[young igloo]

in god we trust

(atheist btw)

[vast iron]

enough for hopes and dreams

[slim vine]

If you get a 6* you're good to go
You either get Zhuang if you win or Rossi if you lose

[sick basin]

The free pulls are enough to p5 her

[vast iron]

hypergriph is our god

[small creek]

Id rather jump

[young igloo]

i would like another tang tang

[vast iron]

glory to hypergriph

[young igloo]

watch your copium capping

[slim vine]

Ah, my daily dose of Hypergriph glaze

[small creek]

can someone glaze me

[slim vine]

You're a decent person

[young igloo]

stare*

[vast iron]

do something to deserve it

[small creek]

That glaze is ass

[small creek]

Idk im alive

[young igloo]

you have a bright personality

[slim vine]

Hey, glaze my glaze!

[nova osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[small creek]

Glaze better smh

[young igloo]

can i suck it?

[slim vine]

Wha

[small creek]

erm

[vast iron]

[young igloo]

forgor to delete it

nvm

im going to bed

[sick basin]

I love you

[slim vine]

Gn bro😭

[dense blade]

[small creek]

holy shit 🥹

now THATS a glaze

[young igloo]

thats gay

[sick basin]

Just say youre lonely

[keen badge]

*le Wuling has xiranite shortage problems
"Say no more! Pingu factory to the rescue! The goo must flow! 🐧"
🤪🤣

[subtle finch]

[river wadi]

im not doing that until i get every single chest in wuling because the last thing i need is to use the detector for it to detect a chest inside that 40k pool when i filled it back up

[keen badge]

Exactly the same 😅
I had the pipeline set up for a while now but I dared not doing this until I cleared the Wuling city area

[vast iron]

now add a event quest in there

[keen badge]

Eh draining it is no big deal
About 5-6 hours
Set it up at night right before crashing to get some ZzZz

[river wadi]

but also where is that liquid xiranite gonna go because you cant dump it in a river

[vast iron]

80 fluid tanks

[keen badge]

iirc you can dump into any ♾️ reservoir
ie in the Qingbo Stockade area you are allowed to do this with a sewage pool

[river wadi]

oh ok

[vast iron]

?.

[river wadi]

i was thinking you gotta drag sewage from the aic area and then put them in a reactor crucible to make xircon effluents then you can treat them to destory it

[jovial breach]

fake will say this haters

[river wadi]

noep

[keen badge]

Oh
Welp, hope no events ever go there then 🤣
I did check the cavern below though it should be clear of loot, so that's done and dusted at least

[river wadi]

i dont trust my checking i gotta see 183/183 on wuling chests

[tall tangle]

technically great idea against blight. instead of bottle->drone just to pour xiranite water downstream to clean that purple blockade

[river wadi]

shoulda waited until 1.2 update so you can do it with liquid heavy xiranite

[keen badge]

Oh? That's about to be a thing? I can still reverse this, it's only about 1-2k so far 🤣

[keen river]

Poor guy employed endfield to drain his vine cellar

And they flood it with liquid cancer

[river wadi]

i thought originium was cancer

[tall tangle]

xiranite is plant based clean product. wym?

[keen badge]

Strictly speaking, carbon
But yeah we do use plants to get said carbon

[keen river]

I think they say on like three different occasions that its somehow related to originium

[tall tangle]

sure we slap it together with cancer to get batteries

otherwise it's not in recipe

[keen badge]

It's a "derivative" of it, iirc
Infused with some "feramnut" power (whatever that is, I'm new to the genre)

[river wadi]

all i see is carbon thats been grinded and refined and put with water

[keen river]

I think the idea is that forge somehow transmutes that carbon into xiranite

Instead of just mixing it

But its not the way xiranite was originally produced

I guess we will see tomorrow

[vital narwhal]

Originium is definitely involved somehow canonically, I think the ingame recipe is mostly like that for gameplay reasons. I remember a memo talking about how Originium clusters around the city were sparse due to the need for Xiranite

[keen river]

.maint

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1776376800:F> ~ <t:1776398400:F>
• <t:1776376800:R> ~ <t:1776398400:R>
• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[river wadi]

why cant we just go to those nodes at the monitoring center and hook up pipes to that infinite supply of liquid xiranite

[vast iron]

theres some in effluent desc i think

[tall tangle]

well i had that thought, but forge itself is made of pure iron with no orig

[keen badge]

Okay, zooping it back out 😅
Industrial ctrl+z 🤣

[astral spruce]

this good?

[keen river]

You may want to load the batteries back to depot

[river wadi]

Whats that protocol stash for

[keen river]

So that you can sell them to outpost

[astral spruce]

which one

[vital narwhal]

3x3 converger

[river wadi]

The one in the middle that the origocrusts go through

[keen river]

Also long term, you may want to avoid mixing different types of items in same stash

[astral spruce]

ohh so should i fix that now

[astral spruce]

i really dont knwo why i put that there

[keen river]

the reason for that, the stash only transfer items to depot until depot is full

so if you are loading items X and Y and X is full in depot, it will fill the stash and you wont be able to load Y anymore

so it will stall without filling the depo storage

[subtle finch]

time to sleep

[astral spruce]

so better to just have a stash for weach item then

[keen river]

yeah

[river wadi]

the best thing you could do is loop the belt back to the pac or a depot loader to save power

[keen river]

you can combine multiple belts of same item type into single stash to save space

[astral spruce]

kk

[river wadi]

there’s quite a bit of extra space even after producing the maximum things possible so you can sacrifice some space for better power efficiency

[astral spruce]

like combine 2 belts into one flwoing into stash?

[tall tangle]

plz dont

[astral spruce]

im changing it currently

[keen river]

nah, like you did here:

you have two belts of originium triangles going into same stash, that works just fine

[river wadi]

except theres also one belt going out so that is strange

[keen river]

well, i assume he stores the other half for purposes like trading or something

[leaden drift]

I havent checked today but I think im over 250k bottled inert now

690k bottled sewage

[river wadi]

also you usually don't want to sell the 1 bill items directly package them into meds or batteries to sell them for more money

[leaden drift]

Maybe 300k bottled xiranite?

[astral spruce]

.... well i dont

[leaden drift]

Im debating if I want to push for 138k copium and 138k xirnaite comps

[river wadi]

yea so skip the protocol stash and have 2 belts going directly from the refining unit into the gearing unit

[river wadi]

also for amethyst you have 1 output port feeding into 2 refining units which is unnecessary, either have 1 output feeding into 1 refining unit or 2 outputs feeding into 2 refining units

ideally none of your facilities will be idle for any length of time, all of them work 100% of the time

[astral spruce]

well some are clogged..

[river wadi]

then that means theres not enough of whatever your combining them with

[astral spruce]

its mostty orirock

and i got a butload of those

like pretty sure ive hit max on that

[river wadi]

then sell them

[astral spruce]

so i have to either make 2 outputs for 2 refinign units or have 2 outputs into one refining unit

and also start seeling oricrsut

[river wadi]

1 output can supply 1 refining unit to full capacity, if you have 2 outputs then thats too many for 1 refining unit to handle

[wispy grove]

Casually filling my xiranite bottle for future blight fighting

[tardy bridge]

Uhh guys

[river wadi]

wait till 1.2 for heavy xiranite

[tardy bridge]

Do we plant the depot bus at the very edges of the factory area ?

[astral spruce]

so just one should be enough for the refining unit plus the protocol stash and the gearing unit and the packaging unit

[keen river]

a belt can transfer 1 item per 2 seconds (30 per minute), most of buildings have recipes that takes 2 seconds, so the amount of items in recipe matches the amount of belts you need for building

its a pretty easy math

[wispy grove]

Nahh i have to finish story for that and make factory. Thats too long

[tardy bridge]

And another question is how many units/production lines can a refining unit/shredder handle Together without having a crisis about where to send supplies ?

[river wadi]

whats your current factory rn and what are you trying to make

[keen river]

well, as many as many items it produces, pretty much

[astral spruce]

just making whatever i need or might need

[keen river]

reasonable approach 👍

[keen river]

for example, this shredding recipes makes 3 belts of items, so you can feed it to three grinders

[astral spruce]

umm question is 2 fitting machines overkill?

[tardy bridge]

So it depends on how many products a recipe gives 🤔

[keen river]

yeah

[tardy bridge]

yay

[keen river]

primarly because the recipes are 2 seconds in length

so it matches directly with belt

recipes like this, you need to divide by 5 (so 1 belt of chips, 2 belts of powder) and it makes 0.2 belt of batteries

some recipes may require more belts of input too like this

but pretty much the number is always how many belts you want to use

[keen river]

that depends on recipe later i guess

for example this recipe needs 2 belts of parts so that translates into two fitting units

[astral spruce]

boutta use one fitting machine to make ameythis bottles for money

well half the things going from that fitting machine are going to the moudling machine and the other half go the protocla stash

which goes to packaging machine

[river wadi]

but bottles are made with moulding units not fitting units

[keen river]

im not sure if you really need to store the amethyst bottles tbh

outpost should also trade the buck capsule c if i recall

so you may just fill the bottle and sell it for 5x the price

[river wadi]

unfortunately it takes 5 bottles to make a buck capsule c so you are selling it for 1x the price and just wasting power

[keen river]

ah righ

oh well

[astral spruce]

so i use amythest bottles to make capsule c

[river wadi]

no you dont

you sell them as bottles

[keen river]

the other advice i may give is, pack the batteries to the protocol stash

and have one of AIC core belts output the batteries and feed it to bank from it

[astral spruce]

kk

[astral spruce]

????

[keen river]

this way you will save excess batteries in the depot and you are less likely to crash your power production

basically do this 😅

you can use the splitters to feed more banks too since they only use like 0.2 of belt if i recall

[astral spruce]

so i feed batteries into stash then from stah back to thermal bank?

[keen river]

nah, feed them from the depot (like you get resources out)

not from the stash directly

[orchid pilot]

sorry misread stash

[keen river]

this sort of thing

[river wadi]

also you want to be making hc batteries asap since those are more efficient

[astral spruce]

let me see if i can make them

[river wadi]

sc if you dont have access to sandleaf

[keen river]

you cant yet, you will need to progress the main quest all the way to power plateau

and it looks like you are around the valley pass stage

[astral spruce]

umm so trying to move some batteries into stash and the birdge is clooged for some reason

[river wadi]

what does it show

are you full on batteries too

[astral spruce]

let me check

[keen river]

i think it should take like three hours for battery maker to fill a stash if it doesnt work, so probably there is a mistake somewhere else

[astral spruce]

i got 1830/8000 batteries

[keen river]

that looks good

[keen river]

my math is off by like 4 or 5 times, nevermind that 😅

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/inugami-korone-processing-thinking-pondering-calculating-gif-24147534

[keen river]

three hours should be how fast the power bank would drain the full stash building

but battery maker is like 4-5x time as efficient

[astral spruce]

i just realised the fucking problem

it was orientated the wrong fucking way

[keen river]

😅

yeah, common problem

[leaden drift]

I need another endfield account

So i can have ample factory space

[astral spruce]

so do i put the bottles in the same stash that my fitting unit is feeidn into

and it seems i have too mcuh oriccrust cuz its cloggeg again FUCK

[keen river]

well generally speaking

its ok for stuff to clog

i wouldnt worry about it too much

[astral spruce]

oricrust production station taking turns idling si funny lol

so question my machines idling is bad correct or sub optimal

[keen river]

you will probably get as many answers as the people you ask 😅

i think its fine personally

[astral spruce]

welp as long it works it works

[keen river]

pretty much

[astral spruce]

if i want to make it optimal i would have to rebuild

[small creek]

idling is 99% of the time bad

clogging, it depends

[keen river]

generally speaking, if you are building a whole production line, you sort of want to avoid having excess/insufficient buildings

as they will just do nothing and you will waste time trying to fit them

[river wadi]

also waste of powe

[keen river]

but i dont really think its wrong if some part of your factory idlies / overflows for some reason

like if you make gear components and fill the depo, that line will overflow

but if you were to use the components in future, it will restart

[orchid pilot]

In the context that you are asking about, idling is bad, yes

when idling is no longer bad, you'll probably already know why something is intentionally set up to idle, and no longer need to ask

[keen river]

time to take the pictures of map parts that should change tomorrow and go to sleep i guess

[astral spruce]

half my production line idling

[orchid pilot]

That's bad

[small creek]

That is really bad

[tall tangle]

(unless it's just full depot)

[astral spruce]

ohh my depot aint fully

i think its maybe becuase im using like one line for like 3 machines?

[orchid pilot]

I disagree with this - there's always ways you can deal with full depot. Shouldn't be capping anything (except in edge cases like pre-patch prep)

at least, shouldn't be capping anything of value (i.e., ore stream derivative)

no one cares if sandleaf or whatever, just wasted power (which is still bad unless it's the amount needed to sustain depot node deliveries)

[tall tangle]

all's subjective. based on one's goals and playtime. fundamentally it's not bad. when something is very unoptimized or broken it is.

[keen river]

unfortunately you cant really see the new maps from top of water well 😭

oh well

[tall tangle]

if you want help with it, ppl here need more input to make conclusions on what might be wrong

[orchid pilot]

of course, if time limited or not pursuing factory optimization, that's a different story

[keen river]

ok, i think i have screenshooted all places that can potentially change tonight 🤔

tomorrow will tell

[leaden drift]

You could also pursue maxing everything

But how to achieve max everything differs from person to person

My set up currently can go maximum of 31 hours without me getting involved

BUT that's only when im bottling inert effluent

I actually dont know how long it would take for my base to max max if I get rid of that part

[tall tangle]

person in question has v4 baby lvl base. hoarding problems are alien to them. and there could be a lot of reason why their belts stopped running

[keen river]

yeah

he really shouldnt worry about it too much

he probably doesnt even have large resource production to begin with

[orchid pilot]

That's why I argued idling machines are strictly bad, a sign of incorrect setup; depot capping and intentional low utilization are not relevant to their situation

Whether it's worth doing anything about is another question - seems the answer is "no" for them, and that's fine, everyone plays the game differently

[tall tangle]

or they set station, production hit 8k (or whatever cap was back then) and it stopped

[leaden drift]

I remembered when I made a protocol stash chain so I could hoarding more doritos

When my cap.was 8k

I was able to store around 30k

[uneven aspen]

you can afford depot capping

especially if the material capped is used for deliveries

[orchid pilot]

plants are whatever as they're infinite / free, just spend power

but there should never be any ore-based or xiranite-based production that clogs and stops running because you capped something

[vast iron]

Mine stops but only if youre clogged on either yazhens or batteries

Yazhen syringes

[orchid pilot]

which takes 3 whole days+, so that's fine

that's precisely my point, because we have trade-in, there should be no capping
unless aggressively hoarding the margin over max stock bill limit

[placid kindle]

anyone got a wuling blueprint using the new ore? both bases

[iron spoke]

or an alt account but at that point if you're barely logging in who cares.

[orchid pilot]

I can't fathom running an alt account in this game lol
I guess you can just blueprint but still the chores are leeeengthy

[iron spoke]

granted probably better to run LC batteries on an alt that doesn't log in for extended times

[vast iron]

sc clogs before cuprium recipes so its fine

[iron spoke]

the concern is running out of sc batteries while cuprium is clogged and having no power when finally logging back in

[vast iron]

Its probably possible to make something that, if cuprium flow cuts off will automatically cut off battery usage

Feels plausible

Would definitely be more complicated tho

[iron spoke]

yeah. the hypothetical scenario is of someone heavily neglecting the account tho, so at that point efficiency really clearly isn't a concern.

I have a LC production line on my alt just so I don't have to worry about sewage if I want to forget about it for awhile

[vast iron]

Tho realistically auto-factory turns off after a week assuming you use 1.5/min you should still have like 48k left or sm

[iron spoke]

oh I didn't know that

so it won't consume battery if you don't play after 7 days?

[vast iron]

I dont remember the exact time but something like that

Just click on auto-management in aic tab

[orchid pilot]

see you all on the other side :)

[tame sedge]

[orchid pilot]

my final tally of inert xircon socked away was roughly:
v4: 80k, 80k amethyst & cryston, ~40k steel
wl: all four (three above and ferrium) 40~50k by maint end
40k in tanks on the ground
calculated the run rate, will last around 4 days if purification is 2:1, 8 if 1:1

I'm starting to fear that the stockpiled batteries won't even have enough stock bill capacity to be traded in... I forget if the outpost stock bills refill by the amount the capacity increased after upgrading... and likewise, don't remember if new outposts come stocked with bills

[fervent lodge]

where the hell is the client john endfield

[orchid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-10162885804351053153

[uneven aspen]

So we have 8 forges to use right? Has the ratio of forges for xiranite versus heavy xiranite figured out yet?

[ruby sorrel]

o update game button has arrived

[uneven aspen]

this is new right? installing without showing eta

[vast iron]

oh fuck i didnt do my dailies yet

welp

ehh at least ill have vacation tags for next patch

[orchid pilot]

It has to be 7/1 for now. 6/2 may be temporarily possible by depleting stocked xiranite reserves

[fervent lodge]

will push to beta soon, keep an eye

[vast iron]

huge

[leaden drift]

i think ima just get my forges up

[fervent lodge]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ok yall gotta see this but i'm not gonna post here

you know where to find me

[leaden drift]

i wana stream it....

[tame sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-felt-a-great-disturbance-in-the-force-disturbance-in-the-force-star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-as-if-millions-of-voices-gif-5406259100354443780

[west basalt]

mine is showing so idk

[uneven aspen]

thats downloading

not the installing

[tall tangle]

go rest. you wont be launching anything before maint is over

[ruby sorrel]

nah gotta launch it before maint is over to compile shaders

[delicate seal]

How long is the main?

[iron stratus]

installing is a lot harder to estimate is it not

that's like rice's theorem

[upper fiber]

see you guys in 1.3

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[silent violet]

.maintenance

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

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Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[true nebula]

whoa timestamps

very cool

[distant bear]

Oh right

All the new stuff is on warfarin

Go have fun

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items

[true nebula]

whoa

xiranite plus

[upper fiber]

report that leak website

[silent violet]

lmao it’s 4:1 inert to effluent

good luck bp designers

[river wadi]

so 4 forges to produce heavy xiranite

[subtle finch]

oh god it's way worse

[distant bear]

Datamine

Hg classic

[wispy grove]

what kind of purifier is that

[wispy grove]

where you get this?

[wispy grove]

I KNEW IT

[wispy grove]

this is so use less wth

[subtle finch]

should've accounted for that, since it's the same for hetonite solution
it was hard to believe it would cost more than 8 forge to make 12/min of heavy xiranite though

[wispy grove]

wdym/

w8 lemme check

[subtle finch]

on the bright side comp is cheaper than expected

[river wadi]

its gonna take 40 forges to make 60/min if its 4 forges for 6/min

[wispy grove]

🥀

[pulsar cypress]

My guess is correct.. XD

[sterile stratus]

FOUR WHAT

[wispy grove]

all thats left is the total amount of origninium yield we gonna use

that will the production limiter in the factory

[sterile stratus]

4 inert...

[subtle finch]

actually my stupidity in math saved me, i think i made more liquid xiranite than what i needed

[sterile stratus]

drink the excessive liquid xiranite

easy

[subtle finch]

so, still 8 forges, with half effluent rate leftover

[ruby sorrel]

oh right I should work on my spreadsheet to save myself from bad math in a few hrs

[vast iron]

4->1

Huh

Thats... awkward

Whats heavy xira recipe

[wispy grove]

did u just use every single xiranite? where's the battery production?

[vast iron]

Oh heavy xira is 6/min

[subtle finch]

in our heart

[upper fiber]

if 2 heavy for 10s process, then 15/min heavy is more than enough

[sterile stratus]

why 4 bro

[vast iron]

Interesting interesting

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

someone pls calc the heavy xira and sc bat price, which worth more to sell

[sterile stratus]

can i get the rate of the first input product vs hectonite component

gotta prepare

[subtle finch]

actually, just make 6/min for now save the 4 forges for battery, make the 12/min once we got the 12 forge

[vast iron]

Hetonite part is 5-> 1 huh

[wispy grove]

we cant, we need the total yied of originium and ferrium first

[vast iron]

Wait so you need

240/min cuprium

For 30/min hetonite??

Sounds wrong

[fluid fog]

probaby more

[vast iron]

6/min heavy xira would be 480 cuprium + 120 xiranite

[subtle finch]

im actually somehow okay with this 4:1, my sc bat wont have to change that much and rely on the purification unit

[upper fiber]

we will get more mining nodes for cup likely

[vast iron]

• 60 efflu

So effectively like, 180 xira 480 cuprium

[void owl]

Man i wished conduits worked on wifi

[sterile stratus]

for 30 hectonite?

[vast iron]

Apparently
Cupruim solution to heto is 4->1
And heto to solid is 2-> 1

[sterile stratus]

bru

[vast iron]

So 1 heto is 8 cuprium solutions

[sterile stratus]

amazing rate

HA

[vast iron]

8 crucibles

For 30/min

[fluid fog]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ding-bell-4

[vast iron]

[sterile stratus]

i'll get the cuprium input 1/24

[vast iron]

And its the same recipe

So you cant even

Multi-reactor it

We just gonna have

[sterile stratus]

uhh

[subtle finch]

sorry i meant 6/min, didnt notice it takes 10s to process

[vast iron]

8 reactors chilling

[sterile stratus]

god

[wispy grove]

thats cap

[vast iron]

God have mercy upon our souls wtf

[sterile stratus]

the acid looks like honey to me

[vast iron]

[vast iron]

Check hetonite recipe

[sterile stratus]

where's this btw, wiki?

[wispy grove]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items

[vast iron]

Bumpy

[fluid fog]

more like cooking oil to me.

[wispy grove]

where they get this from?

[sterile stratus]

noice

[wispy grove]

bro making heto is so expensive lmao

[sterile stratus]

[subtle finch]

at least i'm not totally off, since i didn't care if heavy xiranite is 6/min or 30/min
#aic-factory message

[vast iron]

Also what the fuck are the new stuff like

"Xiranhue oxidiser/xiranite gourd"

[tawny shadow]

30 xiranites for 1 component??
3x more expensive than the 1.1 one

[ruby sorrel]

do you think it's remotely possible to share forge between xira and heavy xira

[fluid fog]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_equip_script_4_2

[sterile stratus]

yeah i see the rate

[vast iron]

Hahahahaa.... the less you know

Its like

180

[sterile stratus]

8 f- cuprium bro

[tawny shadow]

not to mention the credit needed to craft one is prolly 3x higher as well

[subtle finch]

it's not a crucible, so no

[vast iron]

480 cuprium for 6/min hetonite

So hyped

[fluid fog]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_copper_enr

[ruby sorrel]

I mean like loopback under 100% like we can do with comps

[vast iron]

Thats like

[fluid fog]

you need 60/min crap thats alot.

[sterile stratus]

wait

[vast iron]

Quadruple our current cuprium output

[ruby sorrel]

but the water/eff input is fk'd

[sterile stratus]

shouldn't that be 400

[vast iron]

Wait

[wispy grove]

no wonder the ferrium in the hetonite crucible clogged in the livestream

[sterile stratus]

8 to hectonite and then 5 thing

oh

[vast iron]

Im calcing hetonite

No circuits yet

[sterile stratus]

yh

[fluid fog]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_activity_xiranite_enr_tool

LMAO

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_activity_xiranite_enr_hulu

[vast iron]

480 -> 480 solution -> 120 heto solution -> 60 hetonite? -> 12 parts/min

[sterile stratus]

wow new stuff

[vast iron]

Ok so

[fluid fog]

We have alchohol Xiranite

ALCHOHOL XIRANITE

[vast iron]

480 cuprium to run 6/min heto parts

[vast iron]

Maybe new sellable?

[sterile stratus]

3 component/min lol

[vast iron]

Nah nah its 6

Trust

[fluid fog]

yeah its gonna be stock exchange item.

[sterile stratus]

likely

[sterile stratus]

2x 12part/min -> 1 comp/6 bro

[ruby sorrel]

that's the event item they teased right

[vast iron]

Comp is only 12 -> 6

60/min heto is 12/min parts

[fluid fog]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_fbottle_xiranenr_grass_2

KEKW Radiated bottle.

[sterile stratus]

1x 60/min is 1x 12/min here we need 2 right?

[vast iron]

That just means the recipe for 1 comp is 2+2 -> 1

[sterile stratus]

my math ain't mathing

lemme mathify my math

[vast iron]

Get ready to bottle the civilians water in this one next patch

[subtle finch]

i guess you can, its gonna be hard like usual since they use a different liquid
maybe that fertilizer production trick will come in handy

i suggest don't bother though, 6/min heavy xiranite is already too slow for the hetonite component production

[vast iron]

Forges cant even multi process

[sterile stratus]

throw that like water balloons

[ruby sorrel]

more like too high

[vast iron]

Whats the point

[fluid fog]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_xiranite_lowpoly

[ruby sorrel]

cus we have limited forges

[vast iron]

Yeah i saw that too

[subtle finch]

they're still asking if you can alternate if you want lower heavy xir rates

[vast iron]

Light xiranite soon???

[sterile stratus]

[vast iron]

Wheres ma heavy HC wuling xiranite battery

[subtle finch]

that's been there for a while now though, that's why its on my bingo card

[vast iron]

Seems like theres a new miniboss too

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_drop_hsbear_1

[ruby sorrel]

have some batteries

[sterile stratus]

"square battery"

what

[upper fiber]

online -> place moulding unit -> input xiranite

[vast iron]

Triangle battery soon

[fluid fog]

ohh this are mission item.

[sterile stratus]

bro...

[leaden drift]

seems like i will be deleting all of my factory officially

[vast iron]

Could be the custom recipes for the aic event

[leaden drift]

for the new factory that must be made

[vast iron]

If you think about it

[ruby sorrel]

no new batt tier, probs can't delete factory

[sterile stratus]

quadrilateral battery when

[vast iron]

I can probably delete half of my xircon

[distant bear]

Event item

Was in stream

[ruby sorrel]

I will probs delete it anyways so I can shuffle things around

[fluid fog]

so that's why we have so many Forge

[leaden drift]

not enough forge

[ruby sorrel]

gotta clean up my pipes and stuff for more logistics cap freedom

[upper fiber]

this main selling stuff for 1.2?

[subtle finch]

glad i didnt finish making my new bat layout with 2:1 ratio

[ruby sorrel]

it's all mission stuff

[fluid fog]

Bro the amount of Carbon you gonna need for those 12. is so many.

[sterile stratus]

i can supply carbon dioxide

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-suck-kirby-vacuum-cute-nintendo-gif-16544038

[vast iron]

I start to suspect all of these are the aic event recipes

There is also a new normal enemy drop item

[distant bear]

Event

[sterile stratus]

why

[subtle finch]

trust me guys, 4:1 eff is just event exclusive

[sterile stratus]

i really want to trust that

2:1 could be fair

do staffs playtest their AIC

[distant bear]

FML I can't find it now

[upper fiber]

4:1 is for that special purification place

[vast iron]

Idk feels weird

[sterile stratus]

mh

[vast iron]

Yes in game the ratio is 1:4

[subtle finch]

our current 12/min battery production is just 4 inerts of unit worth, then the heavy xiranite has 2 inerts
all of that 6 inert effluent cant even produce xircon at full efficiency

[sterile stratus]

it feels like they spam heavy xiranite for the formula, or it might be only me

[sterile stratus]

accept the fate

[vast iron]

Solution, dont make 12 batteries
Might even reduce it down to 6

[vast iron]

I mean heavy xiranite is sellable no?

[sterile stratus]

nooo my batteries~~

[sterile stratus]

pr*paganda

bro fell hard

[river wadi]

still no hc wuling battery

[vast iron]

If heto circuits are also sellable those could become our moneymakers

[distant bear]

I can't find the fuckin pic but these are event item

[sterile stratus]

five hundred hectonite

[distant bear]

Thought it was in stream

[vast iron]

5 heavy xircon + 25 ori cube trust

[sterile stratus]

lol

[vast iron]

1.3 we get upgraded purification units trust

[sterile stratus]

"trust"

[river wadi]

t r u s t

[vast iron]

With better ratios

[vast iron]

Silence! Trust the process

[subtle finch]

server is back up

[sterile stratus]

and its recipe better be like this

[river wadi]

what is that data pack

[vast iron]

Wherd you even find this, edited?

[sterile stratus]

i'm from 2028, you're welcome

[vast iron]

Also the recipe will obviously be 1 -> 1 + 2

[wispy grove]

lets look at the hetonite side first.so you need:
1 cuprium owder + acid -> 1 cuprium sol(2secs)
4 cuprium sol -> 1 heto sol + 1 acid(2 secs)
2 hetonite sol +1 ferrium -> 1 hetonite +1 sewage (2 secs)
5 hetonite -> heto part (10 sec)
2 heto part -> heto comp(10 sec)

from hetonite sol to heto comp, you only need double the hetonite sol production to let heto comp run efficiently, assuming we are making 6/min. it means we need to produce 4 hetonite sol every 2 secs. Thats 16 cuprium unloaders. 480/min cuprium + 12 acid pipes from acid pool + 4 acid pipes from purifier to be looped back

[sterile stratus]

yeah ain't no way running heto full eff

[river wadi]

unless we get like 20 cuprium mining spots

[vast iron]

Unless we get...
500 cuprium

[sterile stratus]

yesss!

nah ain't happen

[vast iron]

.allin

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1487161512144408837/jr2xxrs.png?ex=69c82296&is=69c6d116&hm=f3d753f5f36591c36ee852d059da788a4d2bf7a68158e239f3c1b9e7a1830549&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=640&height=640

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[vast iron]

Imagine the devs play prank on us and marker stone just has 70 ferrium nodes

[wispy grove]

did you edit this?

[river wadi]

at least we can make a lot more jincao drinks

[sterile stratus]

obviously

[wispy grove]

please cut the purifier down to 2:1

[sterile stratus]

although i'll be happy if it's like that

[sterile stratus]

"balancing"

[wispy grove]

so that we only need like 240/min cuprium

[vast iron]

What, you dont like producing 1.25 effluent per xiranite???

Whats wrong with u srsl

[river wadi]

[vast iron]

kids these days

[wispy grove]

who tf use decimals ina recipe

[vast iron]

Tho

[wispy grove]

make that a whole number then ll consider your claim

[fluid fog]

we going to have alot of cuprium nodes for this.

[vast iron]

2 forges -> 2.5 -> needs 5
7 forges -> 2.5 heavy xira lines

[sterile stratus]

hey don't be racist

[vast iron]

Last forge makes 3/min SC battery

Actually

[wispy grove]

a what?

[vast iron]

Wait no

[sterile stratus]

or ultra hyper super epic cuprium node that gives you 1e67 cuprium per min

[subtle finch]

i almost hit the bingo, too soon for aggagrit ore

[vast iron]

Grab 100w facilty

Crucible+ is 100 energy

[tame sedge]

heavy has inert? heavy can be made with 4x inert

[subtle finch]

yeah, still not a bad prediction

[sterile stratus]

cryo tower coming soon?

yancao

[wispy grove]

theyre expecting us to make more heavy xiranite

[subtle finch]

heavy xiranite has 2 inert byproduct, not worth purifying with how bad the ratio is

[wispy grove]

since we have recipes like this to be sellable

[tame sedge]

i dont see that in the recipes posted

[subtle finch]

just your normal liquid xiranite + sewage recipe, since heavy xiranite requires xircon effluent

[wispy grove]

unless there is a way

[tame sedge]

Use this to make Heavy

[wispy grove]

sadly we cant make 2 xircon eff prodcution in a crucible

[subtle finch]

that's the plan

[tame sedge]

Youll need two crucibles

[wispy grove]

it needs a separate reactor

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/word-oh-thats-why-realization-wow-gif-10000098

2 sc battery factory can make 4 inert

[tame sedge]

• 4 forges = 2 heavy

12 batters + 4 extra forges gets us 2 heavy

...right?

[wispy grove]

its means....
we only need 6 xira to make 2 sc factory + 1 heavy xira

[subtle finch]

just read back up, it's all been said already

[wispy grove]

nah

im lazy

[tame sedge]

it will need to be said 100 more times over the rest of 1.2 patch

[fluid fog]

This heavy xiranite looks realistic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivoV1rwiYJk

[tame sedge]

are you sure it's not liquid xiranite?

[sterile stratus]

sip

[tame sedge]

or xircon effluent?

[subtle finch]

now drain it

[sterile stratus]

inf source

it looks large

[wispy grove]

so we still need 3 reactors or we can do 2?

in each sc factory i mean

[subtle finch]

2

[frail trail]

what if the new trading post only take jincao drink

i would be hella dead

[subtle finch]

anyone have a nice reactor-less battery blueprint?

[wispy grove]

why?

[subtle finch]

i might just offload all my crucibles in the new outpost to use that 4:1 ratio

[ruby sorrel]

I think I have a preliminary plan worked out, gotta see the power consumption of purification though

[fervent lodge]

wild shit

tactical gourd.

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/endministrator-endmin-arknights-endfield-bomb-gif-3801526505005205420

[silent violet]

reactorless? bruh

[subtle finch]

i meant offshore xircon

[silent violet]

i mean there r stand-alone zircon bps right

so surely there r zircon input batt bps

[subtle finch]

gimme

[silent violet]

idk i haven’t made one but surely they exist if ppl r making zircon separately

[silent violet]

#1483014873830002728 message
this one is goated !!!

[subtle finch]

it's so basic

i shouldn't really be surprised

[silent violet]

can’t be that hard to make one on your own

it’s just 4 cubes and zircon line from depot

use one of the 5 planter setups if you do make one

[leaden pulsar]

Anyone has expected theorical aic data next update likely

[silent violet]

just wait 2h we don’t know ore amount

we know recipes but can’t say how much of each we need to make

likely to be just heavy xira maxxing and make batts with whatever xira is left

[vast iron]

well i assume we make minimum 15 xircon to power everything

1.5/min consumption wont cut it

[silent violet]

is 1.5 batts all you can make with the left over from 6/2

[vast iron]

lemme see

6/2 as in 2 heavy forges?

[silent violet]

mhm

[vast iron]

well that would be 2 effluent forges -> 0.5 excess from treatment which is or, yeah 1.5/min

which is annoying

well maybe we go back to making HCs or something

[silent violet]

u get 1/4th back from inert

is that included

[vast iron]

yes

6/2 should have 0 excess if not from inert treatment

right

[silent violet]

oh cause 4 normal 2 making wffluent

that sucks dick

[vast iron]

it does

[silent violet]

looks like we r gonna be doing some weird ratio

[vast iron]

well maybe if they give us more ferrium we can make HC valley

clearly we will have spare originium

[silent violet]

gonna have to do some multi slotting on the 8th forge

like half normal half heavy

[vast iron]

have we even calculated if heavy is worth it sell-value wise

isnt 1 heavy like 25 creds

[silent violet]

i mean usually the more processing u do the more you increase the value of the raw mats

[vast iron]

im pretty sure xircon gets more processing than heavy tho

[silent violet]

why else would those jade things exist then

i guess maybe if they don’t give us enough org pre

to make batts only

[vast iron]

idk i have the feeling those might be the temporariy aic event recipe

they do say "mission item"

[silent violet]

ugh just gotta wait for the update to drop

[vast iron]

yep

timezones dont match for me so ill have to see tmrw

[wispy grove]

[vast iron]

.noway

its fucking beautiful

[wispy grove]

[silent violet]

they gave us an image of it already from the top lmao

[vast iron]

no but this is clearly better

i mean look at it

[leaden drift]

masterpiece

[wispy grove]

tbh i dont know if im able to use this

[leaden drift]

I might have to destroy my watering farm

to get more facilities

[vast iron]

oh shit right

facility cap increase when

[leaden drift]

512 aint enough

[vast iron]

v4 had more

and wuling bases are bigger

[fervent lodge]

this is funnier

[vast iron]

now do purifier too

[fervent lodge]

well go place purifier

[vast iron]

oh my god its beautiful

i didnt know u had such artistic talent

[fervent lodge]

check out my deviantart 👍

[vast iron]

looks good :3

[wispy grove]

[leaden drift]

factory growing

[vast iron]

wait, thats not enough is it

[sterile stratus]

ooh beautiful piece of art

[wispy grove]

yeah, im just showing the art

[vast iron]

oh god this aic is gonna be such a pain tho

[wispy grove]

if its not powered, it darker

[wispy grove]

true

[vast iron]

so painful that posting blueprints wont be as painful and i might actually post some

[sterile stratus]

nice imma get your bp

[vast iron]

soonTM

[leaden drift]

i think the funny part is

we are going to tweak that BP

[vast iron]

the issue is we first need to figure out the right ratio

for heavy and not heavy

[leaden drift]

hundreds of times

[fervent lodge]

tell me if the game doesn't check out with the planner i'll fix it later

[vast iron]

oki

i sleep too

see you in like 15 hours

[wispy grove]

NOOOO

u have 2 hrs left to wait bro

wait for it

[leaden drift]

I might delay myself from doing much too

i want to stream it

[wispy grove]

and play 8 hrs more to fix your factory before sleep

[vast iron]

nah i need to wake up at 6 tmrw

[leaden drift]

the problem is going through story

[vast iron]

[leaden drift]

to get the wiggle mans

but skipping would be bad

[vast iron]

if you manage do me a favor and tally the ores in the new area please and thank you

[wispy grove]

nice i can connect short pipes and make it onger

[leaden drift]

i dont know if ill go there right away

I might just do basic factory checks

then sleep for tomorrow

[fervent lodge]

i'm honestly not gonna tryhard factory at all

[vast iron]

well at least tell me the prices for dense xiranite + hetonite if you manage

[leaden drift]

im currently on a 24hr shift

[fervent lodge]

just gonna chill, do story

poke at new area

[vast iron]

im probably not gonna be able to play for a while so ill just tally the resources and plan it on paper

[leaden drift]

ye

[vast iron]

just the ratios

[leaden drift]

well

wont we also get new regional levels?

[vast iron]

true

shit some of my ores gonna get mis-ratiod

[leaden drift]

so all the old stuff might be buffed ish

[vast iron]

hydro mining rig nightmare

luckily i didnt replace everything yet

only ferrium

and like a lil bit of stuff

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/steel-ball-run-johnny-joestar-horse-sbr-spin-gif-13583622626256256597

[wispy grove]

can you make white outline on pipes?

the inert pipe is kinda hard to see

[vast iron]

my goal next patch is probably to make something optimized on energy cons since that will be a massive issue, i feel it

[sterile stratus]

sounds nice

[vast iron]

have you seen the kinds of shit ive made to save 5 power?

[sterile stratus]

...

my zipline route is already a mess so i gave up

xd

[vast iron]

hey

this shit

saves 5 power

[sterile stratus]

oh looks nice

oh-

yeah i see

[orchid pilot]

pogranichnik, it's real

[vast iron]

conditions
if your ferrium increases by 0.01, it implodes
if it decreases by 0.01, it implodes
if you want to produce something different, you have to rework the entire blueprint

sooo

yeah the blueprint is kinda

cooked

[marble yarrow]

brooo lmaoo 0.25 xircon from inert real??

[vast iron]

it is

i think i called it but i just cant prove it

[marble yarrow]

it was really the same as the hetonite lmaoo

[vast iron]

this singular blueprint probably has more usage conditions than like

one of my technical posts

[sterile stratus]

more like hehtonite

[sterile stratus]

copying

[vast iron]

i beg you not to

[sterile stratus]

hehehehehe

hm what's wrong

[vast iron]

the only reason that blueprint exists

[marble yarrow]

hetonite comp cheap af

[sterile stratus]

does he know

[vast iron]

.knownt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[vast iron]

i saved 5 energy with that BP

[marble yarrow]

what

[sterile stratus]

i should optimize my energy usage

in wuling, idc v4

HAHAAH

[vast iron]

it sends both yazhen and jincao from alternating planter to 1 crusher instead of 2

as a downside

if your rate of usage doesnt match exactly

it will clog

and it will explode

so

thoughts?

[sterile stratus]

lemme read what does it produce tho

C-type stuff?

[vast iron]

yazhen A jincao c

[sterile stratus]

oh

[vast iron]

with 1 farm 1 crucible

its like

hyper energy efficient

[sterile stratus]

well saving 5 power doesn't do anything for me yet

i'm making my own pwm and looks like it fluctuates too bad

[vast iron]

b-but its 1 zipline...

[sterile stratus]

so... i have to stick with 5100/4900 🥀

[vast iron]

#1494362412126699651 use this for PWM
trust me

[sterile stratus]

i'm still fixing it tho,

[marble yarrow]

so they are just combined with the planter and shredder?

[vast iron]

yes, the other design used a seperate shreedder for yazhen and jincao

i fused them

[marble yarrow]

yeah im already using that tech

[vast iron]

the mess of a converger loop in the middle is the downside

it is used to balance the usage rate

[marble yarrow]

also i didnt used that messy middle converger u done lmaooo i just send it to depot

[vast iron]

thats less safe

but it works

[marble yarrow]

but the production rate of both of my yazhen/jincao powders are exactly the ones needed by my reactors

[vast iron]

yes, my design is for those for which it isnt

[marble yarrow]

and configurable, you just steal seeds when needed

[vast iron]

well in the end

throwing the solution into xiranite crucibles was more efficient

so i kinda scrapped the design

its just a bit inconvenient that EVERY CRUCIBLE NOW USES PRECIPIFUCK ACID

enough ranting for today

im going to sleep

[sterile stratus]

lol just wait till maintenance end

i'll do something else in the meantime

[fervent lodge]

why wait if can plan in advance!

[fervent lodge]

sure

[orchid pilot]

I'm more mad about the fact that perfectly optimal strategy probably involves bouncing the 7th reactor

we're probably doing: 4 xira --> sc + 1 purified xircon, 2 xira + that xircon --> heavy, 1 extra line xira

that's pretty fast accumulation... 43k per day

[vast iron]

well i have a theory

all 8 crucibles on heavy xira

[orchid pilot]

2 days accumulate, swap to double heavy for 12 hours, rotate? hellish

[vast iron]

and use excess purify to make 1.5/min xira batteries

if you can make up the rest with like

ferrium batteries or smt

it could work

[ruby sorrel]

is this when the factory insanity starts

[orchid pilot]

we don't get free xircon until 1.2.2

where is this "excess purify"

[vast iron]

purifying inert

it adds up

just need to see if 1.5 is enough tho

[orchid pilot]

ok let's count

[vast iron]

6 forges -> 180/min xira

60 -> 75/min effluent (after purify)

60/min + 120/min -> 2x heavy

15/min -> 7.5/min xircon -> 1.5/min SC wL

[subtle finch]

it's alive

[orchid pilot]

you can't even feed 2 heavy forges with 8 total

[vast iron]

1 forge is 1 eff + 2 normals

we have enough

wym

1 eff is 1 forge