aic-factory

[keen river]

it depends on ziplines, turrets and even power poles

[small creek]

Zips actually takes 3 fac count each

for no fucking reason

[silent violet]

o fr?

[small creek]

Yea, crazy

[silent violet]

shit is just arbitrary to fuck ppl over

[small creek]

Maybe they changed but i vividly remember being fkd by wuling city

Spent an afternoon getting 301/300 down to 297/300

[fervent lodge]

make sure to stick around for the maintenance start 👀

[sterile stratus]

30x21 idc

ugly af

[silent violet]

u need to refine after grinding

js

[sterile stratus]

wai

[fervent lodge]

[sterile stratus]

i keep forgetting it

even when i make it in game

gotta buy more ram 🥀

[wispy grove]

if this works, i need to reduce my sc battery

thats 7 forges

[zenith kiln]

What the, is that a subpac

[fervent lodge]

yeah 50x

[zenith kiln]

Huh, wait whats the size of the one in sky kings flat

[fervent lodge]

50x

[zenith kiln]

Oh, i though 7 was the max for that one because of that one blueprint, or is that one made in a smaller size?

[wispy grove]

im using 7 technically

[fervent lodge]

7 is with planters

this one planters outside

[zenith kiln]

Ahh

[wispy grove]

im using 5 forges with planters

then 2 for heavy xira

thats 7, only 1 xira forge left for battery

[sterile stratus]

30x22 should be better idk

[wispy grove]

i need too reduce my heavy xira down to 1

[fervent lodge]

looking forward to kyostin mental breakdown

[wispy grove]

does he even show up here?

or he just making things on his own?

[fervent lodge]

he's mostly chilling on his server i think

hmmm i think i'll go to sleep earlier today so i can stay up between 3am and 9am

most normal update time

[wispy grove]

14 hrs more

its taking too long than anticipated

[sterile stratus]

ignore the game in the meantime and the update will arrive soon

[wispy grove]

so whats the plan? do quest first or just straight upgrade everything first?

[sterile stratus]

at least it works when i were young

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

sup unc

[sterile stratus]

nah i meant "younger"

felt like time's too fast

i'm not even legal for "some stuff"

[wispy grove]

oh okee

for now im just cleaning all chest in wuling city

without the scan

[sterile stratus]

i'm done another area in v4, now just the h*b 🥀

[wispy grove]

already usedall of it

[wispy grove]

biggest for the last

[sterile stratus]

btw am i good for ts

[wispy grove]

yup

[sterile stratus]

mhm ok

[wispy grove]

2.6m - (number of hrs left x 1.35 x 26880)

thats the max you can save, if youre higher than the value u got, sell some so that it wont cap

[sterile stratus]

mhm ok thanks

[wispy grove]

you already done the defence mode right?

i dont have tangtang so im using wulfgard for the stockbills

[sterile stratus]

same lol

[vale topaz]

.maintenance

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

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• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[vale topaz]

1 more hour...

[keen river]

? 8 more hours

and more like 14

[dreamy jungle]

in 10min

[cyan forge]

[fervent lodge]

update in 10 min

[subtle finch]

here's my latest cook for the 2:1 inert ratio.
its better this way anyway since you'd be limiting component production, and storing those heavy xiranite

[fervent lodge]

that's an L

or actually that's a Г

you just need to turn it

[vale topaz]

woah, the schedule is way ahead for your place

[subtle finch]

that's also all forges accounted for now
so we'd be getting all our battery's xircon from that treatment facility

[fervent lodge]

i'm tired of theorycrafting

feels like i played the update 2 times

at this point

[blissful dragon]

hey can anyone post BP for super basic xiranite? I want to sleep....

[subtle finch]

EFO01I3A5II7i59715o08
its dual tho

[tall tangle]

what does super basic even mean i wonder

[blissful dragon]

oh fuck I need 2 forge

[vast iron]

a thing has been done

be prepared.

[subtle finch]

[vast iron]

the splitter to end all splitters.

with a configurable output rate from 4 to 50

[subtle finch]

yeah, that's 2 forge

[blissful dragon]

oh no I think I might have bricked myself, only have 1 of those aic unlock thing

[dreamy jungle]

are u in na/eu?

[blissful dragon]

asia

[dreamy jungle]

welp

[subtle finch]

unlock it real quick, those tube man are easy to get

[sterile stratus]

if you really need, then use the system bp

it's not too good but it does its job

[wispy grove]

bro i did 110/180 chest

i still have 70 left

bro hows that possible

the map aint that big

[sterile stratus]

where

[dreamy jungle]

maybe manual copy

[wispy grove]

wuling city

[sterile stratus]

lol

[vast iron]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467519294836314153 try mine?

[sterile stratus]

i have 123 but... unmarked

[vast iron]

Has AS code

Oh 1 forge

1 sec

[dreamy jungle]

time to advertise

[subtle finch]

still so much space, so much room for activities, but not enough for the 6 forges

i guess i'll use my 6 forge layout after all

[dreamy jungle]

no way six

[vast iron]

try this one

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465296119339946004

[dreamy jungle]

draw chen

[subtle finch]

chen is too big

[sterile stratus]

fat

[blissful dragon]

so sad cant find the last aic unlock skill thing

[vale topaz]

many chests are hidden under plain sight.
under stairs, corner of buildings, near bushes, under the city mini dam, etc

[fervent lodge]

perlifumo

[subtle finch]

i also did not use that backside of the depot bus, maybe just a planter-seeder array

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=B7U8S5q8h8W3F8

[sterile stratus]

dam!

[vale topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[subtle finch]

can i just rant about their official web browser map

[fervent lodge]

opendfieldmap

but yes

[subtle finch]

they actually imports your facilities, but they cant bother to track the aurylene and chests you've collected

[pulsar steeple]

lmao

[fervent lodge]

that'd mean you'd have no use for the compass

[subtle finch]

i at least need it for the intel archives

[fervent lodge]

wait. i can use this to determine fac count

[jovial breach]

feel like ive been rickroll'd

[sterile stratus]

i just use a different website cuz it's too laggy for me

[subtle finch]

can you check if other player's facilities are accessible just by uid? i wanna yoink someone's relay coords

[fervent lodge]

prolly not, no

it'd require a browser extension

to sync

[vast iron]

Has anyone ever wanted a 1/34 splitter?

:3

[sterile stratus]

bro what

and how tho

[vast iron]

working on a tech

[silent violet]

u can just use a loopback

[vast iron]

nono, this one wont be periodic

[silent violet]

whats the point

[sterile stratus]

splitter can only help you with 1/(2^n*3^m) right?

[silent violet]

that only matters for pwm

if you arent worried about superposition then loopback works fine for anything else

[vast iron]

sm1 introduced me to a new "bug” so ive been trying to make it useful

[silent violet]

aight fair enough

[vast iron]

ended up with a 1 in 2x configurable splitter

its a bit bulky but should be able to do any number from 1 to 25

[subtle finch]

im more interested if you can make a 5/6 or 11/12 lane with equal intervals

[sterile stratus]

interval?

[silent violet]

there was a tech with a belt and item control ports

u make the belt as long as you want the denominator to be and the you fill the belt with denominator minus numerator of filler item

[subtle finch]

like equally apart, instead of 1/5 or 1/12 slot missing. there's a use case for that with crucibles

[silent violet]

output item control port to filter out the item you actually want

[vital narwhal]

Is heavy xiranite or its liquid form currently used for anything besides filling bottles for exploration?

[subtle finch]

we believe it will be the primary source of profit later

[small creek]

Probably gonna be used for new batteries

[subtle finch]

until the next battery i guess

[silent violet]

just sell em for 25 bucks apiece

[sterile stratus]

can u specify

[upper fiber]

if no new bat then it gonna be ori ore crisis

[silent violet]

is there even any way for items to not be in phase with the input belt

how would you even shift the timing of the items on the belt

[subtle finch]

actually yes, those misbehaving limiters can do 3/4 and 1/4

[silent violet]

arbitrary delay seems like it wouldnt be possible

unless you found something that delayed items by 1/6th of a belt cycle

[wispy grove]

Where's harunachan? I wanna see the production to stockbills pic again

[silent violet]

doesnt seem likely

also do we even need to do reactor slot multipurposing if we r getting a reactor upgrade with 8 slots

[subtle finch]

it wont be relevant next update with expanded crucible, but maybe it will have future use to split with equal intervals

[vast iron]

this one is quite easy to use tho, the belt length of a certain belt transcribes almost exactly to the interval of output item

[sterile stratus]

hm

[silent violet]

yeah but the issue is that its not spaced evenly

can only space 1/x evenly

for reactor slot multipurpose you need even output delays

[marble yarrow]

wait what do u need

[dull shard]

what kind of split are you trying to do?

[silent violet]

but idk with 8 slots i dont think there is any set of recipes that only has 2 fluid inputs 2 fluid outputs that needs 9 or more slots

[subtle finch]

as close to the full rate as possible but equally apart, so units like crucible will hate a short moment to process the next recipe with the empty slot

[wispy grove]

How many batteries if we make 1 heavy xira producttion only?

[dull shard]

so the crucible makes 6/min lets say.

you're trying to make 5.5/min?

[silent violet]

you actually can run it at full rate the issue isnt the rate its the timing

you need input a to go in at a specific timing relative to input b

[wispy grove]

Since we only make like 2.5 xira on heavy xira. The 0.5 becomes xircon eff

[dull shard]

this sounds like a 1/6

[silent violet]

even running both recipes at full speed there is some time in the cycle where recipe a is processing and consumed input a and theres space for input b to go in

[marble yarrow]

my ratio is 2.66667 xira = 1 heavy

[dull shard]

sorry I need big picture what are we trying to do what's the flow rate etc

[sterile stratus]

six seven!

8/3 xira/heavy

ratio

[subtle finch]

yes, theoretically those gaps in between could let it do dual consecutive recipes

[dull shard]

but on the same facility? or does it go towards a different facility

[vast iron]

My hope is probably to revolutionize pwm

[subtle finch]

yes

[sterile stratus]

but

[tall tangle]

why not use pi ratio?

[vast iron]

if you want 1 battery every like

73 seconds

you can get that now

[sterile stratus]

yeah go on try doing that

[dull shard]

that's possible in theory but I've not tested it in crucible. The idea exists in the battery setup I was using prior to refactoring today

[wispy grove]

Bro its not 2:1

[marble yarrow]

still filling up

[sterile stratus]

for what bro

[subtle finch]

inert has a value now/later

[upper fiber]

time for last login today

[dull shard]

aren't we just going to produce that naturally?

[upper fiber]

checking up stuff

extra stuff

[silent violet]

https://note.com/anapy/n/n372f28f6934f?sub_rt=share_pw

[wispy grove]

Saving every xircon eff

[silent violet]

found the original post if anyone is confused

[wispy grove]

Uhuh whats this

[upper fiber]

no mod

[vast iron]

ugh

[silent violet]

no way mr beast is giving out money !!!

[marble yarrow]

pffft enemies can now escape in my incineration chambers

actual patched BUHHH

[upper fiber]

gone so fast

[subtle finch]

lappland fan too

[silent violet]

the original concept behind reactor slot multipurposing

but they used a bug to get the staggered timings

if you can get arbitrary timing offset on the items on the belt you should be able to do this without a bug

but i dont think theres a way to get that to happen

[marble yarrow]

no way

[sterile stratus]

noice

[dull shard]

splitters in the conveyor but the splitted piece goes somewhere or back to depot. or is that too wide a gap?

[wispy grove]

Nice

[silent violet]

nah the issue isnt the average rate its the exact timing of the items

[subtle finch]

if its easy, everyone would be doing it by now

[vast iron]

timing compared to other belts or timing between each item

[silent violet]

for example if you want 1/3 with even rate you need an item to go in every 0.166s

[subtle finch]

it's a bug for a reason

[silent violet]

1/x is easy

[vast iron]

i mean you can have multiple manually offset belts conbined, no?

[vast iron]

1/x is solved

[silent violet]

how do you manually offset the belts

[subtle finch]

ask nicely

[wispy grove]

Off the unloader

[vast iron]

cant you just place multiple belts with different delays

or smt

[silent violet]

afaik everything you do only shifts items 1 full slot

[wispy grove]

Then turn on again

But

[vast iron]

^

that works somewhat

[silent violet]

does that persist while offline

[wispy grove]

You can only delay for 1 sec

Exactly 1 sec

[silent violet]

yeah thats what i thought

[wispy grove]

Cant do fractional delay

[silent violet]

the belts have basically slots

you cant move the slots up or down

[wispy grove]

Yes

[silent violet]

even if the machine can output earlier it will wait for the next slot

[vast iron]

maybe with the manual loop thing you said?

[subtle finch]

you can turn on unloaders on and off to desync them, im guessing there's a period where they sync them for easy computation

[vast iron]

with converge/split manual loops

[silent violet]

nah

that doesnt give even timing

[astral spruce]

time to go from the beginning

[silent violet]

pretty sure theres no way to force an offset to a belt besides whatever the dude in the post did

[dull shard]

maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

are there supposed to be 3 inputs in the thing or just 2 inputs?

[sterile stratus]

now place some pylons and you're good

[vast iron]

really makes me wonder

[silent violet]

its cool no point wasting effort thinking about this cause u get as many slots as you want in 13 hours

[vast iron]

[sterile stratus]

lol

[silent violet]

unless they drop some recipe chains that are item only u wont need more than 8 slots for anything

[subtle finch]

so, where are we going to produce our yazhen solution for free now?

[vital narwhal]

maybe am crazy but ngl kinda wish the expanded crucible wasn't so op

[silent violet]

nah ur right if u wanna minimise space you have to merge your syringe production with your hetonite

which is not fun

also your xircon production becomes 1 forge but has to connect to like 3 different production lines

mr beast really wants to get his money out there huh

[astral spruce]

<@&956153874383781928>

[sterile stratus]

smh

[sterile stratus]

they should make me mod so i will delete messagepeople sending messages like that

[silent violet]

is there really no discord bot that can just detect the same set of photos and auto ban

[vast iron]

no clue

[silent violet]

its always the same shit

[vast iron]

Well bean does its job

[sterile stratus]

no need a bot i'm here confident

[vast iron]

just a bit of a delay

[sterile stratus]

lol

[marble yarrow]

@

[vast iron]

other channels tho

[vast iron]

muscle memory jumpscare

[sterile stratus]

scamming should be straight ban smh 🥀

[vast iron]

true

it is

[sterile stratus]

wait is it

it is

[marble yarrow]

.maintenance

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

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[subtle finch]

if this pattern is to go by, hetonite is the first component we can't produce at full efficiency

[sterile stratus]

oh

[vast iron]

15+15 soon trust

[sterile stratus]

please

[marble yarrow]

5+5 fr

[sterile stratus]

next is 1+1 trust

[small creek]

And then i get banned for this

[vital narwhal]

'continew' is peak

[sterile stratus]

deserved

cont*new no censor yeah gotta ban

[small creek]

Fuck i do

[silent violet]

did u just draw that? 💀

[astral spruce]

is having a clogged system good or does it have to be mving at all times?

[small creek]

no i saw it a few weeks earlier lol

[silent violet]

o lol

[tall tangle]

short answer. it depends

[subtle finch]

here's to my bp quota.
modified some pipe alignment, and made it easier to adjust the component rate in any material/input/output you like

[willow beacon]

you would need to download and analyze every single piece of media that gets sent in every message across every single server the bot is in

that is straight up not happening

[astral spruce]

long answer

[fervent lodge]

the media proxy is already capable of hashing images

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fervent pawn]

anyone got some tips for this design? i made it when i first got xiranite but i need it smaller now

[silent violet]

i mean u don’t have to there are ways to reduce load

[fervent pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/v2N6xP8.jpeg

[silent violet]

like only looking at messages from accounts at high risk i.e new accounts or just joined the server or weird behaviour

also you don’t necessarily have to download entire images to determine if they are the same as flagged ones

[tall tangle]

if it's clogged by the fact that you have hit produced item limit and there is no sewage in recipes, you are good

[silent violet]

idk how discord handles image storing but there are ways to retrieve lightweight information about images

[subtle finch]

why do you have so many seeders-planters

[pulsar cypress]

Check the recipe for the carbon.
Some part produce 2 output while u only 1 belt.
So waste.
It should use less plants facilities.

[fervent pawn]

i wanted +2 of plants out of the production and in order to do that i need a planter sending them alone no?

[astral spruce]

tf is sewage

[fervent pawn]

oh.

that is why, i did not see that carbon sends 2

i am so used to this games standardised "1 in 1 out every 2s" i forgot to check

[tall tangle]

if you dont know, you dont need it. for now

[fervent pawn]

ap ap i will be making my own design first, i enjoy that more

[subtle finch]

you only need 1 liquid planter-seeder per forge

[fervent lodge]

how big is water treatment again

[fervent pawn]

again i did not see the carbon recipe is 1 to 2, nor that carbon powder is also 1 to 2

[fervent lodge]

5x5?

wait the purifier thing i mean

[real crescent]

3x3 like conduit

[fervent lodge]

the 1.2 one?

[marble yarrow]

yeah 5x5

[real crescent]

oh

[fervent lodge]

k

[real crescent]

i thought you meant the existing one

[marble yarrow]

Purification Unit

[subtle finch]

now i need to make a forgeless sc bat production

[fervent pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/jB5YxVZ.png

this should look better

[tall tangle]

it does

[vast iron]

looks good

[small creek]

this sucks

[vast iron]

lol

[fervent pawn]

wh-

[subtle finch]

looks is in the eye of the beholder

[small creek]

Someone needs to disagree

[fervent pawn]

fair enough xd

[vast iron]

I cant help but say u right tho

[small creek]

Ill play the role

[vast iron]

it can be smaller

[fervent pawn]

i still believe i can condence it further

[vast iron]

Its definitely not the worst

but it can be better

[fervent pawn]

the thing i am thinking about the most is how to put in the sandleaf powder into it neatly

[small creek]

swap top right refining and the planter sticking out

[vast iron]

Also new technical post for anyone interested
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494362412126699651

[fervent pawn]

i don't like that it is sticking out

[pulsar cypress]

The sand planting top right should go to middle, the seed picking.
Not to the other planting.

[vast iron]

wait why is seeding feeding into 1

what is this

[subtle finch]

something is sus with my plan... I've already used up all 8 forge for that 6/min hetonite
that only leaves me with 2 xircon worth for batteries

[fervent pawn]

yea i realized i fucked that one up now

gimme a bit

[subtle finch]

i guess we're really getting that 12 forge soon

[small creek]

you yourself are sus

[vital narwhal]

Is the 12 forge actually coming this version? I know they said "later 12", but I guess that could just mean a second unlock in the tree

[vast iron]

yes

[shrewd sigil]

this is my wuling tech map

[nova osprey]

imagine it's a mistranslation and 12 is for 1.3

[shrewd sigil]

cansomeone recommend me really good blueprint

[vast iron]

for.. what?

[devout egret]

Tmr is the 4 additional sky forge coming and may 14 alongside the 2nd map is the last 4 sky forge to make it 12 total.

[subtle finch]

[shrewd sigil]

to farm wuling credits so i can max the area and depot bus

[shrewd sigil]

heyy

[pulsar cypress]

Have you mine every node, including copium ore?

[nova osprey]

two factory updates in one patch? let's go

[slim vine]

Guys
I need help from one of you

[arctic flicker]

We're getting both maps mate?

[nova osprey]

i see you've come

[arctic flicker]

Not split into 2, Idk where you got that off

[subtle finch]

[slim vine]

Don't kill me

[devout egret]

Tmr 1st map and may 14 2nd map

[arctic flicker]

?

[nova osprey]

[vast iron]

test site is coming 2nd half 1.2

[arctic flicker]

Oh is it?

I see lol is test site the new outpost or 2nd area then

[vast iron]

2nd area

[nova osprey]

good

[arctic flicker]

Oh that is so cringe :/

[vast iron]

But it has the sewage recycle thing

[slim vine]

Someone help😭 I can't figure the factory out and I need Rossi's armor

[devout egret]

Didnt know either it was 2nd area new outpost.

[marble yarrow]

tomorrow = marker stone + outpost + 8 forge
next half = test area + purification node + 12 forge

[arctic flicker]

Oh so that means

[shrewd sigil]

most of them yes i have like 58k

[astral spruce]

can i use the protocol stash to draw from depo?

[arctic flicker]

We're fighting Nef first?

[vast iron]

no

[pulsar cypress]

Uh.. U need to explain ur problem or else none can help..

[vast iron]

clue 0

probably

[arctic flicker]

[nova osprey]

do you have a factory set up for cuprium gear or no (even if it's wrong it's okay)

[slim vine]

I need to go from "Idk wtf I'm doing but I have Xiranite farm" to Rossi's armor in coprium

[sick basin]

No

Stash sends to depo

[slim vine]

All I have is Xiranite which I know for a fact is needed

[young igloo]

okay then, start with some xiranite component first

[vital narwhal]

Test Area probably Aburrey Quarry analogue, i.e., exploration quest area not strictly required for MSQ progression

[young igloo]

a whole ass battery factory

[nova osprey]

typically i would take it one small step at a time, if you're new

go to in game database and try to do the smallest thing you can that you need

in this case it's figuring out how to refine cuprium without clogging

there should be a tutorial inside the simulations that shows you how as well, if you're stuck

[slim vine]

A friend made that for me alr
I just need to figure out coprium

[subtle finch]

so, you rigged all cuprium mineral beds already?

[young igloo]

what did you have, 12 sc battery ?

[arctic flicker]

I mean hey at least we're getting 5/6 for etchspace and the new gear, so im happy lol

[slim vine]

If you mean mining manually, I got 72 ores

[subtle finch]

use hydro rigs

[young igloo]

uhhh, scrshot your aic report

[slim vine]

?

[young igloo]

i didnt think you are that new mb

[slim vine]

Hydro mining devices?
I can't craft them until I figure out how to make components

[slim vine]

When it comes to factory treat me like I installed 5 minutes ago

[astral spruce]

should i be making multiple factory line for like shredded portion of this item or fitted portion of this item or just draw from the already existing setup and add whatever extra i need

[young igloo]

it is a bit complex to explain tbh

[orchid pilot]

I think Rossi probably uses cuprium component gearset

[vast iron]

firstly, do you have it researched

[slim vine]

Yes

[vast iron]

Ok

do you have water pump

[young igloo]

still xiranite comp is cheaper for artif

[subtle finch]

don't you get free hydro rigs from tutorial?

[nova osprey]

check your depot to see if you have bc the game gives you enough for all mining spots @.@

[astral spruce]

i hvae time explain

[vast iron]

you need a few things first
Cuprium mining
Water refinery

[slim vine]

No but I can craft

[vast iron]

ok, you gonna want to craft one so you can process your cuprium

[young igloo]

yea craft them, set them next the the coprium ore

[fervent pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/YRgqepQ.png

next variation

stil want to improve it tho

[outer bramble]

I don't want to do the tutorial so much that I went mining cuprium ore to get the mining drill first 😂

[slim vine]

It's not cuz my pyramid farm froze and Idk why

[vast iron]

you can easily move the bottom seed picker up 1

[subtle finch]

you can skip it though...

[fervent pawn]

you righ

[outer bramble]

Is that so? I must miss that.

[slim vine]

I had them in Valley IV😭

[devout egret]

They give out some already crafted on if unlocked tech tree for it, Should be enough to
start mine some cuprium.

[nova osprey]

there you go

[fervent lodge]

where power

[fervent pawn]

i put in the power last

[pulsar cypress]

Check the yield data.
Originium - 480
Ferrium - 90
Copium - 120

If yes, u can use blueprint for :
12 sc battery
6 syringe A
2.75 med C with meta transfer ferrium

[alpine tendon]

wuling story done!
Time for node hunting!

[real crescent]

well maybe dont do that cos i think you dont have enough space to power some of these

[slim vine]

So it goes directly to my SIA
What after that
Also, do I really have to get electricity till THERE?!

[outer bramble]

Are you sure the power can reach that?

[vast iron]

we dragging wires everywhere

[nova osprey]

yes (sorta)

you can technically rig conduits with water to there instead if that's what you want to do

[vast iron]

seems doable ngl

[young igloo]

its a meme for a reason lol

[subtle finch]

all design really tends to the same layout, staggered grinder or that loopy refiner-shredder variant
a big differentiator is 3 forge designs that saves the extra sandleaf planter-seeder
or where the planter-seeders are completely detached

[slim vine]

Acting like Ik what I want to do XD

I want armor, I know this far

[river wadi]

but also your gonna be dragging power anyways for ziplines and to drain water in the pools with chests

[nova osprey]

yeah

[young igloo]

yea but armor take the whole ass process

you also need bills for crafting and artifice

and unlock gear

[slim vine]

You mean those... Wuling money?

[young igloo]

yeap

[fervent pawn]

3 forge designs?

yet to see one of those

[slim vine]

I got 500k

[vast iron]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1487561669180788867

[nova osprey]

triple forge design, 2 sandleaf farms to three forges instead of one sandleaf per forge

[young igloo]

idk if 500 is even enough for 1 maxxed gear

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
or this

[vital narwhal]

Generally, it's best to not make+store intermediates to pull out elsewhere, and instead go from raw material to finished product all in one line (since this is usually the most space-efficient approach). But there are exceptions that make sense, with big one in Wuling being Xiranite.

[slim vine]

Lemme have basic gear for now😭

[vast iron]

2 forge design

Is still my fav ngl

[fervent pawn]

i will probably make my own since i still prefer that even if it is not super efficient, but at the moment spaced out single forge designs is still what i will use

[pulsar cypress]

Me also.. Fruit compact 2 forge design..

[subtle finch]

i understand you want to make your own design, but once you optimized enough, they will all look the same , with small variants

[tall tangle]

nothing wrong with that

[pulsar cypress]

Like mine, similar with hikarin but a lot messier coz me dumb.. XD

[young igloo]

then just xiranite and 2 time refined dense ori

all in gear craft

[fervent pawn]

well yea when i need perfectly optimised i recognize i can just use someone elses design cause a perfectly optimized setup is only really one design for that can maybe be improved on. But since i do not need that yet this is more fun

also i think i might have hit a wall with this design at least

https://i.imgur.com/osCUsNi.png

i still feel like this wastes some space

but it is a lot better than what i had before

[young igloo]

yea

wanna look at mine?

[subtle finch]

@slim vine just do this quickly first
how do you expect to make cuprium components without constant cuprium

[vast iron]

im surprised the top pylon reaches everything, lol

[young igloo]

i use 1 forge also

[fervent pawn]

why nto i am done with my own now so might as well see on other peeps to check what improvements i could make

[pulsar cypress]

Last step..
Add protocol stash at the area right below the forge to send the xiranite to depot.. °-°)b

[outer bramble]

I think this is good for saving space

[fervent pawn]

that depends where i place it

i may have it input directly into a machine

[tall tangle]

i use 1 forge blocks too because it's easy to make it bridgeless

[fervent pawn]

making something else

[fervent pawn]

ah you are making use of depots, it will defo look better with that

[slim vine]

Why can't I place more than one?

[young igloo]

can rotate it tho

im rotating ts next update

[vast iron]

my 1.0 forge setup https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467519294836314153/1467519409919754342/Screenshot_2026-02-01_at_08.47.30.png?ex=69e23c74&is=69e0eaf4&hm=e03b096c3c5a7adc273a88f8e4282b9ba0c827f266a18dfc988f8c42284c724c

[fervent pawn]

unless the veins are more refined in higher levels could you not make that with just one pump?

[fervent pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/AAI2yjt.png

?

what

[vast iron]

lol

[young igloo]

i asked the same lol

[slim vine]

Bro why can I place only one coprium extraction device?

[fervent pawn]

can't believe you have elctric pylons in there and not xiranite pylons, clearly a massive issue

[vast iron]

perhaps because you only have 1?

[young igloo]

huh? which one?

the refinery or ?

[slim vine]

I have 8!

[slim vine]

The mining device

It doesn't let me place any more

[vast iron]

oh no! I forgot. Shouldve taken consideration for people placing their xiranite outside the aic

[fervent pawn]

can i import a blueprint from the website tool to the game?

[young igloo]

do a screenshot

[slim vine]

Ok now it can, nvm Ig, game wants to make me look like a dumbass😭

I swear it said sum like "this area is limited" when trying to place it on the site

[subtle finch]

you can do 2 pumps minimum for both the beds in qingbo, yes
i used 3

[subtle finch]

you can import from the game to the sim, but not the other way around

[young igloo]

beds?

[fervent pawn]

ok

[young igloo]

nvm im larping

[vast iron]

maybe because your region dev level some ore nodes arent unlocked yet..?

[fervent pawn]

ore beds / veins / nodes

[young igloo]

was going to make a pun but im realized i need to go to bed more

[vast iron]

[subtle finch]

i'm using the correct term

[young igloo]

im just dumb dont mind that

[slim vine]

I should be coprium ore farming now
Now what do I need for components again?

[young igloo]

i cant really sleep since i got like 2 can of redbull the previous hour

[vast iron]

I swear if you scanned them it said purity node or smt smt

cant rmb

[young igloo]

coprium parts + xiranite

they are actually easy tho just follow the formulas

[slim vine]

How do I make the parts again?

[vast iron]

refining into fitting unit

use liquid mode for cuprium

[slim vine]

Fitting unit?

[vast iron]

yeah?

[pulsar cypress]

*also beware of sewage clog..

[slim vine]

Shit, Idk what the translation to my game is😭

[young igloo]

im more patience here than the #help me

[slim vine]

Excuse me kind sir

The WHAT?!

[vast iron]

the thing you use to make circuits

whatever

[astral spruce]

endfield the only game that makes you learn what engineering a production plant feels like

[young igloo]

put 1 pipe to have the sewage into the water treatment unit

[river wadi]

to make cuprium you need to put cuprium ore in a refining unit with water and that produces sewage

[young igloo]

yeah and you need water too

[tall tangle]

not really tho

[slim vine]

How do I say this...
I don't have water treatment

[young igloo]

we mass produce plant like its nothing

[vapid dock]

I am so ready to play with the bigger crucible

[vast iron]

basically. Mining -> cuprium. Pump -> clean water.
Clean water + raw cuprium -> water refining unit -> cuprium (processed) + sewage
Cuprium->fitting unit -> parts
Sewage -> treatment facility (deletes sewage)

[vast iron]

tech tree

[young igloo]

craft one then

[slim vine]

Oml I have to go search for a node😭

Ima go get it rq

[young igloo]

im actually curious what reason bring you to the game

[slim vine]

Wym

[pulsar cypress]

Refining with water input, produce sewage water output.
Blue pipe bring water to refining.
Above it is sewage coming from refining to be dumped.

[young igloo]

im not trying to offend you but the factory is kinda the key to the game yet you seem not very interested in it

and it only get harder with every update

[slim vine]

I see 3 main points in this game

Factory
Open world RPG

WOMEN

[nova osprey]

lmaoo mood

[vast iron]

[young igloo]

fair

[vast iron]

holy neuron activation

[subtle finch]

they're not, ive seen countless players here ask for help and just wanna bulldoze through to get components

[slim vine]

Also this is the only gacha open world I can enjoy
I tried both Genshit and Wuwa and uninstalled both

[fervent pawn]

can i edit blueprints without placing them down? (ingame)

[vast iron]

this is why blueprints exist

[young igloo]

its not openworld btw

[vast iron]

idts

[pulsar cypress]

Math quiz
Stress relief
Waifu

[fervent pawn]

idts?

[subtle finch]

it's not wrong, i wish they actually just give free components for starters like they did for cryston

[slim vine]

Pretty much

[vast iron]

i dont think so

[subtle finch]

and only require component production for artificing

[slim vine]

Math Quiz
Relieve stress from the quiz
Award for passing the quiz

[vast iron]

we have gotten much more deep than just ”math quiz”

[carmine igloo]

shoud i wait 1.2?

[young igloo]

why?

[carmine igloo]

i dont want to rebuild

[pulsar cypress]

Nope.. Place and edit..

[young igloo]

discarding the factory is the easiest part lol

[pulsar cypress]

True..

[vast iron]

example of something thats more complicated than math quiz

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494362412126699651

[fervent pawn]

damn it

[vast iron]

definitely not advertising

[subtle finch]

yes

[pulsar cypress]

New patch = rebuild
You cant evade it no matter what

[young igloo]

i have lost like more than 10 hour into factory each patch then discard it the moment new update come

(rookie number btw)

[vast iron]

only 10 hours?
Weak

[slim vine]

Whose great idea was it to put the node I need on a roof

[young igloo]

i have said it is rookie number

[subtle finch]

rig all mineral beds, while you're waiting

[carmine igloo]

ok

[young igloo]

i got somehow familiar with ts through 2 region

[vast iron]

my blueprints feel too messy to be sharing ngl

[orchid pilot]

Nicely done!! good timing! 🎉

[young igloo]

mf good timing lol

[vast iron]

.maint

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1776376800:F> ~ <t:1776398400:F>
• <t:1776376800:R> ~ <t:1776398400:R>
• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[vast iron]

5 hours

[young igloo]

gonna take a while to replace all the rig

[pulsar cypress]

No pre download yet right?

[vast iron]

i still havent. Most of my rigs are still mk 1 lol

[young igloo]

im using mk2 for ori lol

[slim vine]

Ok I got water treatment

[vast iron]

[young igloo]

literally every node except coprium and that few ori near the v4 PAC

mf 2 pylon for allat

[vast iron]

what was the 2nd one even for

powering the depot?

[fervent pawn]

(i know sewage is really useful in a bit but i do not use it now) but this cuprium is not lacking something massive right?

https://i.imgur.com/uQwV185.png

[young igloo]

maybe for the wate outlet

[vast iron]

looks good ngl

[young igloo]

except the xircon production it is good to just dump it

idk bout the next update tho

[fervent pawn]

yea i have not started with xircon yet so

[young igloo]

only thing i knew is the fatass crucible

[wild acorn]

hai yall whats the functional purpose of the fluid tank, why wouldnt u just directly get the water out of a conduit outlet for example

[alpine tendon]

wdym by good timing, anything about to happen?

[young igloo]

12h from now theres gonna be a big update lol

[pulsar cypress]

Uh.. Fitting to depot not to gearing.

[nova osprey]

i use it as a buffer if I'm moving my circuits arond

[slim vine]

I don't have the bus

[nova osprey]

pipes*

[young igloo]

dont have to use one

[nova osprey]

but other than that not much use

[subtle finch]

just wing it, use the PAC

[young igloo]

pipe logistic work the same btw

[nova osprey]

indeed

[pulsar cypress]

Replace the bus with PaC or AiC..

[wild acorn]

yeah i was kinda confused on why it would be used in any situation unless u were tryna store water for some reason

[young igloo]

or just use outlet inlet

[young igloo]

dont even mention it, look at the separating unit sitting at the corner

[slim vine]

If I figure out what a fitting unit is, I'm done

[young igloo]

kay bang got banned

got it

[wild acorn]

LOL yeah that one i was even more like... who would use this

[subtle finch]

what language is your game in?

[slim vine]

Italian

[young igloo]

no wonder

[pulsar cypress]

Storing any liquid u want to stock.?
XD

[nova osprey]

it's called the separating unit because of the way it separates from the factory gameplay with every growing patch

[young igloo]

btw is the translation and everything ok ?

[slim vine]

Oh ok thanks

[wild acorn]

OHH i forgot theres different liquid types, sorry i just only unlocked wuling fac

[young igloo]

it is suck in my language

[slim vine]

?
Wym?

[slim vine]

Oh, yh, for me it's fine

[fervent pawn]

now THAT is a fluid buffer

[young igloo]

not fair mf

[slim vine]

😭

[vale topaz]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Fitting_Unit

[fervent pawn]

man i wish we had wiring in this game tho cause i would love to tell a fluid buffer "when above X liquid open this valve" (which leads into a water treatment)

[young igloo]

what is in those tanks?

[fervent pawn]

looks like sewage

[pulsar cypress]

Sewage.. XD
Now xir eff..

[young igloo]

i wish i can just dump waste in wuling lakes

pollution mf

[fervent pawn]

the way pipes go into a filling unit is VERY dissatisfying

[orchid pilot]

what pw.css said... mooooooore story and thus a whole slew of new AIC stuff
you may be able to just dive straight into that

[slim vine]

FINALLY making coprium components

[young igloo]

woew

welcome to the endgame stuff

or not

make more money

[slim vine]

Wuling's?

[young igloo]

ye

[pulsar cypress]

Wulings bill..

[slim vine]

So just buy and sell on repeat, got it

[pulsar cypress]

Different country different money.. XD

[slim vine]

I call it Wuling Moneh

[young igloo]

buy low sell high yea but its not the only source tho

try making battery

and syringe

[slim vine]

Xiranite battery?

[young igloo]

ye

[slim vine]

That's alimenting my factory

I can't sell that

[young igloo]

make more

[subtle finch]

chill, they dont even have a bus yet

[young igloo]

thats why i dont chill

gotta make it grow asap

im skipping the story tmr as always

[nova osprey]

the SC ones need sewage you got from the copium

[young igloo]

[fervent pawn]

also can someone inform me why sewage from cupium is worth noting? it seems xircon is self sustaining

[slim vine]

Don't make me do more factory stuff for the love of God😭

I barely did shit and it's alr all messy here

[young igloo]

imagine its like making a pizza

[subtle finch]

i saw people in reddit saying they just do the daily quest and logout

[young igloo]

but with rocks

[slim vine]

Are you teasing my nationality?

[subtle finch]

definitely different priorities if you're a factory/non factory player

[young igloo]

or you could just visit some game content creator

they mostly have a guide on endgame base

[nova osprey]

this is harder than making pizza imo

or at least more time consuming

[young igloo]

sorry misread that for testing

[slim vine]

Rate it
(Below there's coprium parts farm

[young igloo]

looking good for a beginner

[slim vine]

I made this all by myself

That's a lie

[young igloo]

but wheres the battery

[slim vine]

I only did the coprium

[nova osprey]

the xiranite is giving 15/min instead of 30/min rn

[slim vine]

In the other base

[nova osprey]

actually

it's not even working

[young igloo]

i mean the battery usage

[nova osprey]

uhh

[young igloo]

you are not even using the battery

[slim vine]

I am

But when one battery finishes it takes a couple seconds for the next one to arrive

[young igloo]

explain your power then

a mf pmw

[subtle finch]

these are the type of players where you just point to kyostinv, and have your peace of mind

[young igloo]

[slim vine]

Clogged cuz maxed

[slim vine]

?

[young igloo]

pwm actually, is sorta tech to delay battery

so you use less battery each minute

[slim vine]

Totally on purpose

[small creek]

can i have a tldr

[fervent pawn]

i am not using any pwm, i just can not be bothered

[vast iron]

the pwm revolution has arrived.

[slim vine]

So... now I wait and my Rossi will hit 2M ult

(She won't)

[vast iron]

helping someone

[vale topaz]

just take it slow.
it is not so complicated once you get used to this factory game.
as long as you're not straight jumping into minmaxing space or spaghetti pipe/belt.

[small creek]

i mean duh

[slim vine]

My belts and pipes are messier than spaghettiù

[river wadi]

is there a way to auto stash stuff to the depot instead of the backpack

[young igloo]

nico here trying to make rossi gear, from scratch (both knowledge and facility)

[small creek]

guys what should i buy

[young igloo]

so im pretty much just handholding him thru

[young igloo]

moni

[vast iron]

all of it

[slim vine]

And I've done it

I'm proud of myself

[vast iron]

buy the refresh

only 160

[slim vine]

And I still don't get HOW people reach numbers that are tenfold mines

[subtle finch]

we got them to do the bare minimum of producing cuprium components, which is impressive for someone without a depot bus
efficiency is really bad, but who cares, as long as they can craft those gears

[young igloo]

practice more

[vale topaz]

that's not spaghetti, it's just you're not utilizing the base depot yet or still highly dependent into AIC as input / output product

[slim vine]

Practice what😭

[small creek]

wowee teaching fish how to man

[young igloo]

we already have experiences from v4, and 2 previous patches

[slim vine]

Bold of you to assume I have a depot in Wuling

[young igloo]

not to mention factorio, satisfactory, etc

[slim vine]

I pray to God that 1.2 armors SUCK

[vast iron]

not me

[pulsar cypress]

Refresh.. XD

[slim vine]

I don't wanna do this all over again

[vast iron]

pure brainpower

[young igloo]

well not me neither lol but im assuming there is

[vast iron]

definitely

[young igloo]

it is not btw

but you can just stick with the coprium already

[nova osprey]

most will be side grades

[vale topaz]

once your creativity kicks in.... you will.
and also remaking your zip line

[vast iron]

1.2 you gonna have to deal with crucibles. I pray for mercy upon your soul LMAO

[small creek]

you will do this ALL over again

[vast iron]

[small creek]

enter, 1.2

[slim vine]

I didn't place a single zip line since I started playing

[vast iron]

do it all X
Do it all, but like 50x worse ✅

[slim vine]

Cruc- what?

[vast iron]

fluids.

[small creek]

Crucibles are the GOAT

[vast iron]

f l u i d s

[young igloo]

some dude with m3nt4l 1lln3ss rebuild the whole power/zip line into straight line

[cyan forge]

It most likely won't

[young igloo]

[small creek]

I love crucibles

[cyan forge]

Tho that being said, it's not like every chara will use it

[slim vine]

Make it suck for Rossi at least

[young igloo]

fluid mixer

[cyan forge]

[slim vine]

I'm not pulling on Zhuang anyways

[vast iron]

i remember this

[cyan forge]

I don't think rossi uses any of the gear?

[slim vine]

Might have to farm for Gilberta tho

[vale topaz]

the ultimate suffering for you at this patch and next patch.

[cyan forge]

Oh unless the qingbo set it good on her

[young igloo]

is ocd count as mental illness?

[cyan forge]

But rossi shouldn't not use m1 tho

[young igloo]

i think it is

[cyan forge]

[vast iron]

maybe

[vast iron]

remember the times where each facility does 1 recipe? Well fuck that! 50 in 1

[young igloo]

anyway its somehow irritating to look in

[alpine tendon]

ello

[slim vine]

So... am I done with gears?😊

[young igloo]

yea

[vast iron]

:brain explosion:

[young igloo]

but try to make more money

capitalism is the key

[vast iron]

the spirit of capitalism compels you

[slim vine]

What for?

Gear is cheap

[young igloo]

it is not, welcome to the artificing

[haughty tiger]

how long will be tech work?

[vast iron]

you need to make multiple gears to upgrade the gear stars via artificing

and well

1 artificing item costs…

[slim vine]

Is that the reason people do tenfold my dmg?

[vast iron]

60,000/120,000/180,000

[slim vine]

Dawg

[young igloo]

each gear take like 50 copies to max it stat

[vast iron]

welcome to lategame

[slim vine]

DAWG

[nova osprey]

right now probably yes

until you can make the basic level 70 gear it can be rough

[vast iron]

[slim vine]

Yh that MUST be how I tenfold my dmg

[nova osprey]

but a lot is also probably due to team comp/damage rotations

[young igloo]

not to mention the evil fuck redeemer set

it is expensive asf

[subtle finch]

[slim vine]

About that, I hope Endmin, Wulfgard and Ake will work well

[vale topaz]

you need the stock to buy ingredient for armor upgrade and rng reduction for weapon essence rng.

[nova osprey]

they dont

[young igloo]

[vast iron]

oh and remember

you have to artifice 2-3 stats per gear

[slim vine]

Fym😭

[vast iron]

4 gears per character

[nova osprey]

unless you're running rossi maybe

[slim vine]

Idk what you're talking about😭

[young igloo]

stop scaring him lol

[slim vine]

Yh that's what I running

[vast iron]

.knownt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[nova osprey]

ah then it's fine

[young igloo]

well the truth is harsh

[nova osprey]

you missed rossi when you first told me your team xD

[young igloo]

OH AND ALSO THE ESSENCE ETCHING

[slim vine]

I gave it for granted since all this was about her set, mb

[keen river]

tbh, the damage increase is like 30% having operator at maxed skill level, 20% having proper gear, 20% having proper essence in weapon and 30% having gilberta buffing your damage

[slim vine]

Totally know what that is

[keen river]

😅

[nova osprey]

oh sorry i am popping in and out of the convo mb

[young igloo]

got any 6 6 3 for rossi?

[slim vine]

I need Gilberta, I missed her by 37 pulls

1.2 better give me a shit ton of oro

[slim vine]

I have 6... Idk, 6 what?

Tf you talking about

[young igloo]

etching?

[nova osprey]

weapon essences

[young igloo]

like a maxed essence?

[slim vine]

Guys Ima be honest with you

What I know about this game is:

[young igloo]

smth like this

[slim vine]

How to fight

[keen river]

not even maxed, just having a decent essence is a massive difference

[slim vine]

And who has the biggest assets

[young igloo]

tell me the truth

[slim vine]

What

[young igloo]

i mean your opinion

sometime my english is restarted dont mind it

[vale topaz]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Gear#Artificing

[slim vine]

Yvone is totally up there

Might have a challenge when they release Mi Fu

[nova osprey]

yvonne is definitely the one rn

[vale topaz]

tldr; your oroberyl went and will go for the next biggest asset ?

[slim vine]

My oroberyl will rn go to Gilberta if I can get enough
Planning to get Mi Fu in the future cuz she might go well with Rossi

[vale topaz]

on serious note, that's.... 120k oroberyl requirement for worst case x_X
hope you done enough saving or every credit store refresh grants you oroberyl.

[slim vine]

What I know I can do is:
Map exploration
Etchspage salvage
Side quests
Erm... Idk what else

[tall tangle]

imagine they add some gas mechanics and this guy will have to make some recipe with gas, liquids and solids eventually

[young igloo]

60k ?

fym 120k

[slim vine]

Gilberta and Mi Fu

120k

[young igloo]

holy shit mifu

[vast iron]

55 cuz they usually give 10 feee

free*

[young igloo]

fee

[slim vine]

100% physical so prob good with Rossi

[keen river]

unfortunate we will need to wait like two months for mifu

:<

[young igloo]

fym 2

[keen river]

if the current timeline is correct, 1.2 should end like week into june

and we dont even know if mifu will be the first girl on next banner batch

[vale topaz]

item gathering milestone, factory tutorial, character tutorial, sub region defense mission, character account ( max at lvl 60 )....

[nova osprey]

wasn't 1.2 set to be 6 weeks

[sick basin]

1.2 ends on the 5th of June

[nova osprey]

oh

[sick basin]

Literaly the week im graduating

[young igloo]

next day already i gotta sleep

[keen river]

we are already two weeks and few days into april 😅

[young igloo]

be ready to sit my ass for 8h straight

[nova osprey]

oh 1.2 is 7 weeks not 6 weeks?

[slim vine]

I've done factory and character
Idk what sub defense is
Account is 52

[young igloo]

funni numba

[keen river]

1.2 is between 6 to 7 weeks yeah

[nova osprey]

gahhhhh

[keen river]

and then we should get the new banner

which doesnt necessary need to be mifu first

the new fermut proxy girl seem more likely

[vale topaz]

uhh that tower defense mission when you are about to upgrade your sub region lvl.

[cyan forge]

See u guys after update tmr

[slim vine]

Why did I read femboy😭

[young igloo]

he doesnt even have a properly factory

[slim vine]

Oh good
That never happens
I don't trade

[young igloo]

let him be

[sick basin]

Hehe
6 7

[young igloo]

[small creek]

The eyes see what they want to see

[slim vine]

I feel insulted

[small creek]

I know what you are

[slim vine]

Nonononono😭

[young igloo]

not an insult btw

[sick basin]

Take it as a wake uo call instead

[subtle finch]

we seem to have skipped the second shadow on the right

[small creek]

hi babe

[young igloo]

theres a dude in my list friend just play the game for the factory

[sick basin]

Poor li zhiyan

[keen river]

100% sure the shadow on the right is the vampire guy

[nova osprey]

pulling a pink ceobe moment

[keen river]

ah second

[young igloo]

he wake up at the start of the patch for like 3 days then goes offline

[keen river]

second shadow is that gray hair girl isnt it