aic-factory

[marble yarrow]

something

[vale topaz]

personally, won't use in/outlet if not water....

[wispy grove]

now add numbers

[marble yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[sterile stratus]

pls help

[orchid pilot]

are you making components?

[sterile stratus]

hm...

[wispy grove]

looks normal

[sterile stratus]

am i consuming ts thing too fast

[wispy grove]

wdym?

do you want flat line ?

[sterile stratus]

nevermind i just give up component

i have enough anyway forgot

[young stag]

i love this

[sterile stratus]

reminds me of the connectdot-or-something game

[orchid pilot]

I also love your cuprium merry-go-round in your previous pic lol

[void owl]

i hate having to manage sewage

[orchid pilot]

dude just treat it... you have power headroom

[vale topaz]

??? why are you doing that ?
i meant, the bug about random sewage / crucible already fixed weeks ago

[orchid pilot]

oh sorry

[void owl]

too lilte any my battey factoory shuts down, too much and my syringe factory shuts down

[orchid pilot]

mistook yours for the previous person's screenshot showing power

set up a split with an extra treat

branched after the battery factory so it gets fed the most, clogs, and backs into the treatments

either that, or find the exact ratio of xiranite that you are diverting to components, and split that same amount of sewage away from your battery line

[pulsar cypress]

Anyone get endmin skin?

[orchid pilot]

are those conduits being fed by 1 each or 2 each

[void owl]

mods arnet allowed here sorry

[pulsar cypress]

Just login but my endmin using silver coat..

[void owl]

oh

oh wtf

[pulsar cypress]

[orchid pilot]

endmin got fashion tips from tata

[pulsar cypress]

Kinda cool thou..

[vale topaz]

why not just direct line sewage from cuprium refinery to xircon line ?
as long as SC battery not maxed and refined curprium remain in use, no need to manage sewage.
unless you love stockpiling them both to max....

[orchid pilot]

assuming the battery line is at full production, no components^

how much sewage is coming into each of those conduits? is it one refiner each or two?

@void owl

[vale topaz]

owh, never disturbed production line like that, either do or don't....

[void owl]

2 refiners on both, waiting for parts to maxout and im sutting one of them down

[orchid pilot]

why shut? you always want to keep that flowing

[void owl]

im gonna run out of copium

[orchid pilot]

if it's 2 being fed in then this is super easy

?? there are 4 cuprium lines in

are you refining more than 4 lines?

[void owl]

yeah 4 for syringe, 2 for parts

[pulsar cypress]

.....

[orchid pilot]

bruh

[pulsar cypress]

Rip..

Why not turn off 2 from syringe, make it produce half..

When u done with part, turn it on.
Turn off the part one..

[void owl]

yeah, will turn it off when i max my bag from parts in a bit

[pulsar cypress]

Also.. U have a belt hanging above the stash at gear plant.. XD

[orchid pilot]

looks like that used to be a gearing facility

[void owl]

its for xiariw ehrn i need to male gear

[orchid pilot]

you can see 2 part 2 xira

[pulsar cypress]

Oh..

[vale topaz]

Mmm, how about :
1 SC with 2 xiranite and 2 cuprium refiney for sewage
1 LC with 1 xiranite
1 yazhen A ( with 2 refined cuprium )
2 curpirum refinery with their own sewage treatment
2 cuprium fitting for parts
1 gearing unit with 1 xiranite and 1 cuprium part

[void owl]

is it just me or is there not enough blue ore for syringe C?

[orchid pilot]

you can run a quarter line with optimal current setup (2 SC, 1 yazhen A, 0.25 yazhen c).
~0.45 or something with metatransfer

[vale topaz]

for efficient output ? no, at current patch, it is 1 ferrium output for 2 ferrium refinery , 1 to molding and 1 to fitting.

[snow otter]

whatever, it’s almost being 1.2 patch

[vale topaz]

.maintenance

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[vale topaz]

hopefully not a 20 GB download ._.

[snow otter]

For pc is 11GB indeed

[upper fiber]

and no predownload...

[void owl]

TIL…

[rigid burrow]

https://x.com/i/status/2044485433082400834 ahh do we have this blueprint for asia?

SmugSlav (@SmugSlav0)

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[dreamy jungle]

Should I make a post for that?

[void owl]

Most prob. Also see if you can stuff another fots in

[dreamy jungle]

[dull shard]

looks like a massive refactoring

[void owl]

I need a 4x heavy xiranite farm

Preferbly fits snugly in a subpac

[dull shard]

looking at this now aren't you going to lack water on the 2 lines supporting 4 facilities?

[orchid pilot]

they are fed with 2 pumps ea

notice also that fruit took care to split half first before splitting to each fac

[dull shard]

2 pumps in converge and outlet pumps the single?

[orchid pilot]

so it's 0.5 evenly distributed, no manifolding

yeah

This is def my favorite design but I think I'm actually going to go with a 6 forge outpost (all to AIC, no stash) because with my inert xircon (effluent) stash, I'm anticipating doing some seesawing of the 7th reactor between xira and heavy

until I deplete the inert hoard

so having the 7th in sub, while extremely elegant and compact, doesn't do me much good for that specific temporary use case

but definitely planning to change over to this during the prep for 1.2.2

[dull shard]

yeah I'm thinking 6 out, 2 in main AIC and wokr with that

I don't believe I have a xircon stash but we'll see how the plot unlocks go

[orchid pilot]

(the current trash liquid, I don't have a stash of solid xircon)

[solid quiver]

I don't think sewage produced with liquid Xiranite

[marble yarrow]

yeah right the arrow shouldnt be there

[solid quiver]

and does 2 xircon + Xiranite produce heavy Xiranite?

[marble yarrow]

its 2 xiranite + xircon

[dreamy jungle]

it's up #1494206812147417188 message

[marble yarrow]

updated 1.2 formulas (disregard ratio)

[wispy grove]

What if we use sewage from hetonite then goes to xircon eff?

Eyy

[ancient charm]

Doesnt that make water treatment useless?

[marble yarrow]

for inert, maybe

but we still have so much sewage to dispose

[ancient charm]

But isnt there a sewage treament plant being added

[marble yarrow]

there is, but surely it will accommodate the sewage from the maps first, its possible that those sewage pools are also unlimited source

[ancient charm]

Uh

Wot

Imagine unlimited sewage

Surely

[marble yarrow]

SC wuling (at 12/min production) now will only require 80/min of raw xiranite (from 120/min), since from 80/min raw xiranite, you can have 80/min xircon effluent + 40/min purified xircon effluent (from 80/min inert, assuming 2:1 purification ratio)

-# dont mind me im just working out the Forge usage for xiranite and heavy xiranite

[ancient charm]

Are getting HC Wuling tmr?

[vale topaz]

uhh, if the new AIC is large enough to place whole hetonite line and xircon line....

[marble yarrow]

still no hint of it existing

[ancient charm]

Hm

[marble yarrow]

also heavy xiranite sells at 25 bills on outpost (currently xiranite costs 1)

[wispy grove]

Ofc it is

[vale topaz]

and then another 4 forges

[wispy grove]

What no

[ancient charm]

What is heavy xiranite used for

[wispy grove]

Just one forge

[marble yarrow]

these

[ancient charm]

Sorry I mean the liquid heavy xiranite

[marble yarrow]

spray

[ancient charm]

Better than the Yazhen one now?

[marble yarrow]

i mean, drone spraying lmaooo

[ancient charm]

Uh

Oh

Well that seems pretty useless then

[marble yarrow]

fr

i'll just stock up hetonite comps + heavy xiranite

[ancient charm]

Maybe heavy xiranite used for HC Wuling

Heavy Xircon

[vale topaz]

i still wondering about space requirement : /
at least xircon line will be reduced into 2 crucibles + 1 purification rather 5 crucibles.

[wispy grove]

Yeaahh its small now

[ancient charm]

I think everything can be fit in main wuling pac right now

[orchid pilot]

yeah I think all our natural assumption is that eventually hc wuling battery will eat hetonite and heavy xira
plus, this

[ancient charm]

Do we know the ratios yet?

[vale topaz]

no, just assuming

[ancient charm]

I mean for the recipes tmr

Not HC Wuling

[orchid pilot]

here is best estimate based on video information

[ancient charm]

So we dont know the exact recipe yet aight

[orchid pilot]

No. But some things are high confidence, like 2xira+1xircon

and 1 acid + 1 cupr pow

[ancient charm]

Have people started designing new aics yet lol

[orchid pilot]

days ago

[dull shard]

just ytd. I have to move my xiranites away from core aic =\

[fervent lodge]

If you told me 4 years ago this was a gacha game stream summary, I'd look at you like

[orchid pilot]

acid stuff for new outpost

[ancient charm]

Oh god

[dull shard]

where did that come from

[orchid pilot]

Hikarin amazing work based on the video content

[dull shard]

enka planner?

[orchid pilot]

yeah

[ancient charm]

Can I get a link?

[marble yarrow]

cursed concepts

[orchid pilot]

enKAD plus paint since the new stuff isn't in yet kek

ask Hikarin

[dull shard]

are we getting new cuprium sources?

[orchid pilot]

anyway from enKAD a picture is enough, since you gotta build it yourself

absolutely yes

they show 8 cupr shredding in the video

[dull shard]

so we have at least 4 more nodes

or something

[orchid pilot]

something like that

[fervent lodge]

please more ferrium

[orchid pilot]

honestly I'm most scared about ori

[fervent lodge]

btw do you know what EnKAD stands for

[ancient charm]

KAD sounds suspiciously close to CAD

[orchid pilot]

No lol I assumed computer aided design pun yeah

[fervent lodge]

yep, but it's Bonekrushers

[dull shard]

IDK what to do with ferrium in here. what you guys do wit hthis

[fervent lodge]

En is endfield

[ancient charm]

Yazhen

[wispy grove]

Tbh most resources we get every patch have a fixed yield

Patch 1.0:
12/min lc batteries
12/min yazhen or jincao c

Patch 1.1
12/min sc batteries
6/min yazhen A
1.5/min yazhen C

Patch 1.2
Either 12 or 18/min sc batteries
Either double yazhen A or same production with hetonite parts
Heavy xiranite
Yazhen C will be gone i think.

But notice every time you have to sacrifice battery production to make comps

[orchid pilot]

EnKrusher Aided Design, sounds legit

[fervent lodge]

Komputer!

[ancient charm]

Komrad

[fervent lodge]

So the whole thing is actually a Bonekrusher operation, you've been had
Reunion vibes

[dull shard]

this would make sense given how in v4 we have 18 or 12 buck capsule / batteries

[orchid pilot]

I mean, they also like to screw with us, 1.0 was not a full C line, it was still this 90/min BS

[fervent lodge]

yeah lmao

[wispy grove]

I think they'll gonna keep the 90/min so that you wont make alot of hetonite parts

[fervent lodge]

maybe we're just making wrong things /s

[ancient charm]

I think we lowk need a V4 QOL update for aic

[fervent lodge]

i think this is good, actually
makes you make active decisions on resource management and share

[vale topaz]

wonder if we go straight to lvl 11 regional development and unlock meta transfer for wuling

[ancient charm]

Hopefully

[fervent lodge]

what would you even transfer
ori?

[ancient charm]

SC wuling

[orchid pilot]

must be ferri or ori

[fervent lodge]

i forget, if you transfer ore, how many belts of 30/m is it equivalent to?

[orchid pilot]

the battery transfer rates are trash

it's 25/m

[ancient charm]

25 iirc

[vale topaz]

meta transfer, to create more HC / SC bat.
since meta transfer won't cost a thing, except 1 hour cooldown.

[fervent lodge]

ty

doing depot stuff now

[ancient charm]

I havent done any deliveries in weeks

[fervent lodge]

yeah but why do you need more stuff in v4

they're all broke anyway

[marble yarrow]

cursed

[orchid pilot]

Likely to be irrelevant immediately but here's how I absorb the 25/min alongside the leftover 30/min

ignore bottom merger, also have a 10sec line feeding into there

[vale topaz]

.... you produce SC wuling bat , let's say 12 / m at wuling. These batteries can be sold for wuling stock.
also you add another production line via meta transfer SC batteries, won't cost any space / material, only time.
so, you can get extra stuff to sell without using any space / material.

[small creek]

we get more ore and current deposit lvl upgrade trust

wuling city has to step it up

[orchid pilot]

higher level prod items have trash conversion rate

if you're bothering to backpack you'd be better off with mats

[vale topaz]

does not matter, still extra stuff to trade

[marble yarrow]

same?

[wispy grove]

I think we get more cuprium rather than ferrium or orig beds

[fervent lodge]

but wuling is also broke af.

[orchid pilot]

oh nice, I didn't want to bother figuring out more complicated interaction of already refined, but yeah, this would be strictly superior, -5 waste power

ty for share :)

[vale topaz]

have to see how broke with 2 sub : /

[marble yarrow]

i only used for like, 1 day since daily im switching up the yazhen C production back then lmaooo

[fervent lodge]

I'm thinking of making a "devices" page where you can publish your small isolated thingies
like ratio limiters, this metatransfer consumer, neat mechanics illustrations

[hoary crag]

I'm already having withdrawals after being unable to play endfield for a week and it's not funny

[vale topaz]

if current non enriched node become enriched node, i'll be happy

[fervent lodge]

why

[hoary crag]

good thing I won't be able to miss much when 1.2 arrives

[vale topaz]

what happened ?

[hoary crag]

laptop charger broke last thursday

[fervent lodge]

rip

[orchid pilot]

mobile?

[fervent lodge]

i should hurry up making the planner work on mobile then

[orchid pilot]

I play phone only

[fervent lodge]

prolly not powerful enuf

[rocky elbow]

[hoary crag]

will only be getting my new one tomorrow

was supposed to be this mon-wed but got delayed to friday

[wispy grove]

Only got 540/min your 12/min current +3/min sc battery

[orchid pilot]

rip

[marble yarrow]

nice nice welcome back

[vale topaz]

[orchid pilot]

yeah hence my ori stress lol

[hoary crag]

don't jinx it I beg lmao

[vale topaz]

at least more originium cubes

[wispy grove]

You fuyu do u have no. 2 clue card?

[hoary crag]

my factory's been clogged since monday (SC batteries hits cap then)

[dull shard]

so this one, cuprium part is a biproduct?

[wispy grove]

Put in on v4

[hoary crag]

my brudda I've been unable to play endfield for a week 😭

[orchid pilot]

that's hetonite stuff

[hoary crag]

will only get to do so tomorrow

[marble yarrow]

its a hetonite component production line

[orchid pilot]

it's just showing today's icons because enkad

[marble yarrow]

placeholder cuprium part/comps

[hoary crag]

oh yeah we're only getting marker stone tomorrow, right?

[dull shard]

ah. alright.

[marble yarrow]

yeah marker stone + 8 forge

[dull shard]

do we have new gearing stats yet btw or none at all?

[marble yarrow]

then next half is test area and 12 forge

[hoary crag]

and then with test area, that's going to 12

insane

[marble yarrow]

edging

btw is also nice since we are to figure out ratios

[orchid pilot]

such a troll move to make it 12 before we get hc batts

assuming there's only one free xircon from the wall

[wispy grove]

We have 2 new types of gears and they added more gears on frontier, bonekrusha and swordmancy types

[orchid pilot]

we can't run 8/4

[hoary crag]

hmm

[orchid pilot]

because that would eat all the xira & xircon, and we'd have none left for batteries 🤣

[dull shard]

yeah I was wondering if we knew their stats yet. mainly if there is going to be a better version of the current frontier kit with sub attribute bonus

[hoary crag]

let's just hope the purifying unit also does xircon effluent conversion

tho I do hope they give us more copium ores to increase sewage supply

[hoary crag]

8/4 is impossible anyway

[wispy grove]

Only xiraflow new gear buff. Made for arts consumers

[hoary crag]

max sustainable would be 9/3

[dull shard]

arts consumers, like stacks consumers or something else?

[wispy grove]

Like fangyi who eats arts reaction

[vale topaz]

under impression we will get single stat for non set gear which complete the current missing stat for armor and glove.
which will make gear upgrade easier.

[hoary crag]

is heavy xiranite a 2s or a 10s recipe

[marble yarrow]

2s

in the program its a constant stream in belt

[hoary crag]

ic

the 12 forge showcase made me think otherwise lol

the gaps between the xiranite were much larger than expected

[hoary crag]

my phone's like 7 yrs old lol

absolutely no way I could play endfield on this

[hoary crag]

other than the recent post, have we checked for other recipes the purifying unit can do?

[vale topaz]

we will get 8 max 1st, then after fang yi banner over, the re-run banner will give upgrade to 12 forges

[marble yarrow]

inert xircon purifies to xircon effluent, but ratio still unknown

[hoary crag]

I should probably consider using a long distance transfer for other fluids

like pump -> fill -> depot -> separating

[marble yarrow]

im actually doing that for the acid. since i like everything to be in the Main AIC

[hoary crag]

fr

[marble yarrow]

one outpost would be for 6 forges, and the other for non-1.2 stuff

[hoary crag]

when we get the 12 forges, I actually plan to use my 8 forge setup on the marker stone outpost

for now I'll just be using the soup-pac for 6 forges, and then the other 2 on main

[spare lodge]

hellooo !! ive gotten a bit ...... ambitious trying to fit all 6 sky forge + their necessary carbon supply in one sub aic🫪 .... i would like to ask if theres a way to reroute this part specifically so it could fit

[vale topaz]

.... why i keep thinking those 8 forges are all for xiranite....
heavy xiranite also use forge.

[hoary crag]

there's already a couple 6 forge fully independent sub-pac designs already existing in this chat. I can show you some for reference if you'd like

[spare lodge]

oh!! yes please

[hoary crag]

these are my 6 forge sub-pac layouts, although the second one is actually just my take on a layout from someone else in this channel and isn't really originally mine

this one particularly (c: @subtle finch )

[ruby sorrel]

just use all the space

[marble yarrow]

triple SC wuling still good

8 forge

[hoary crag]

I think it all boils down to how much the new stuff sells for

[spare lodge]

ah i see!! thank u all for the help c:

[hoary crag]

np

[vale topaz]

Wuling upgrade, accepting new item to sell, refined originium for 1:1 .

[hoary crag]

lmao

[hoary crag]

top portion not being uniform 😭

[ruby sorrel]

core too fat

[tribal crescent]

What's the vision for heavy xiranite chat

[hoary crag]

pending recipes and market prices

[marble yarrow]

heavy xiranite sells for 25

[hoary crag]

wild

[hoary crag]

the 2 reactor xircon line relies on a 1:1 conversion in the purification unit, right?

[marble yarrow]

right now 1:1 seems impossible

best to do 2inert:1effluent

crap

😭

nah bro fck hetonite comps

[small creek]

yay

[marble yarrow]

25 bills per heavy xiranite seems kinda cheat

wait shit ass 37.5 heavy xiranite isnt just for 1 forge lmao

perfect

format done, waiting for actual shit to go down

[vale topaz]

once re-run banner started, xircon probably just be 1 crucible with 2 liquid input from this test area map..... hopefully there's instant liquid transfer , no way keep building inlet/outlet train

[cyan forge]

damn, i accidentally clogged my xiranite

\

[wheat prawn]

decided that i wanted to try to maximise output of 1 packaging unit

[distant bear]

Aren't you having fun

[vale topaz]

can use 1 stash for those ferrium dust

[late zodiac]

Yup that's a good practice

[wheat prawn]

fair

was kinda concerned it wouldn’t go in due to other products that time

[distant bear]

Why so wide 🥹

[marble yarrow]

peak

aight we rest

more yazhen for sure (cuprium spots + purity increase)

ferrium purity cope

wuling region originium purity increase so we can burn originium for 50 energy

[wispy grove]

Bro just wait till we get actual numbers bro

[marble yarrow]

true or shi

[small creek]

lmao

[wispy grove]

No i mean the ore yields

Maybe we get 120 ferrium

[subtle finch]

this is basically my prediction except 1:1 inert conversion

[vale topaz]

they will give us amethyst .... 1k amethyst.

[wispy grove]

Nahh dont let us make cyston bottles out of nowhere

[subtle finch]

i think we get 120 xir eff from the treatment facility alone too

[fervent lodge]

i'm still deeply funnied by MD stealing my page selector

[dull shard]

olympics lmao

[fervent lodge]

mental gymnastics gold medal

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow are you the one who made this too?

[marble yarrow]

yes

[subtle finch]

no wonder it looked familiar

do we differentiate facility treated effluent vs crucibe/purified? or just assume it like 90+15 ferrium metastorage

[marble yarrow]

i combine them, like 1 xiranite = 1.5 effluent

and think about pipe distribution later

[ruby sorrel]

this is too much thinking rn

[ruby sorrel]

look I just slap buildings together and it works out

[subtle finch]

i need a grand plan how to neatly partition my base

[ruby sorrel]

I think I'll just throw everything down and avoid depot as much as I can to save fac count this time

[fluid fog]

w8 so no confirm yet if theres gonna be a HC Wuling Bat?

[sick basin]

There isnt

They would show it

[ruby sorrel]

only new items confirmed are heavy xira and heto comp and precursors of those

[fluid fog]

I mean did they confirm SC-bat before?

[sick basin]

Yes

[ruby sorrel]

they only said new batts tbh at the time

to introduce the sewage

[sick basin]

They also showed the production line

And put it at the "new products"

[ruby sorrel]

did they release gear that wasn't shown in the 1.1 preview?

ig they did show everything last time

[marble yarrow]

SC batt: in the program, also shown them in the aic setup
YazhenA: not in program, but on a social media post days before release
JincaoA: none

[ruby sorrel]

oh right tea wasn't mentioned at all

[fluid fog]

Jincao Tea, non-existed LMAO

but it does display in Outpost stock trade.

[sick basin]

[fluid fog]

I guess no HC this time.

LMAO u saying there's gonna be even more production lines for HC

[sick basin]

Nopper

[ruby sorrel]

tbh what're they going to call higher tier jincao atp

drink>tea>???

[sick basin]

Plus we are still getting like, 1 or 2 more maps to wuling

[sick basin]

Barrel

[fluid fog]

2 maps but that one is outpost. I guess we need the other one outpost before HC introduced

just like in Valley 4

[ruby sorrel]

JP just calls it jincao soda I and II CN calls it jincao drink, better jincao drink or sth

[fluid fog]

JP pips is my spiritual animal XD

I call it jancao soda 1 now and 2

AHAHAHA

[hidden temple]

brew/steep/blend

elixir

[fluid fog]

every region have different variable names for it. Sounds nice to me.

but headache if you talk about it with different pips

[ruby sorrel]

meanwhile EN does yazhen syringe [C], [A] for no reason

[subtle finch]

venti jincao frappe

[ruby sorrel]

even though the CN names follow same convention as buck/cit C and B

somehow yazhen skips B

[fluid fog]

CN:C-B-A.
NA: C-A-S?

[ruby sorrel]

well it's like no prefix/quality/best or sth

JP just did I II III

other languages seem to have followed EN in C B A

[fluid fog]

just because you want to be unique, doesn't its good. KEKW

[subtle finch]

we using jincao pro, pro max and ultra now

[ruby sorrel]

yeah and now we skip B and just go C A S ig

[tawny ravine]

C A S SS SSR SSR+ SSRR+ SSRR++ pro max ultra

[ruby sorrel]

tbh I say "best" but the actual term is like implying it's the best like cream of the crop in theory if you invent an even more exaggerated prefix you could go higher in quality

[subtle finch]

reminds me of the time i was playing final fantasy.
EN would call these items by their name and it was confusing, JP just called them G1 to G18

[fervent lodge]

but there are 19.

[subtle finch]

3.6 is its own category

[ruby sorrel]

oh right I was going to move all my ziplines for fun

[subtle finch]

that doesnt sound fun

[ruby sorrel]

well not all all

oh wait should I be waiting until post update to do deliveries.....

eh I'll just save my personal one

1.1 only went up 8k ea or sth

watch me forget when update drops anyways

[silent violet]

it is not that deep you always have excess bills

[ruby sorrel]

but what if it cuts into artifice buying to upgrade stuff

[silent violet]

then you prioritise artifice buying before upgrading stuff

upgrading stuff only helps to increase your bill production which as i said before you will always have excess of

also i doubt you would run out of bills in the first place because the first thing you do once the update drops is dump all of your batteries into your maxed out outpost for 4mil bills

[ruby sorrel]

so just buy all the artifice now so I don't get confused later

[upper fiber]

so we get 12 forge in 1.2?

[fervent lodge]

after may midpatch update

[cyan jay]

how many times can I split a water pipe before it loses its efficiency?

[fervent lodge]

4

but keep in mind one pump only pumps enough for 2 recipes

so 2 pumps -> one pipe -> split pipe -> 4 xiranite forges or planters will work

[wispy grove]

Help

[cyan jay]

how about for the new ores, how many mining rigs can 1 pump support?

[sick basin]

3 high purity
6 low purity
2 high purity 2 low purity
1 high purity 4 low purity

[fervent lodge]

pump can sustain 3 high purity or 6 low

yeah there we go

[silent violet]

@fervent lodge what does this symbhol mean

the one on the output of the planting unit

[valid gazelle]

clogged

[silent violet]

o

that makes sense

[fervent lodge]

it means no smoking

[silent violet]

ah ok

[vale topaz]

forgot how to do this, but basically just hit the puzzle platform / switch, the water will be continously drained.
keep in mind to keep checking if you can get those orbs before doing another puzzle to drain the water.

[wispy grove]

how to hit it tho?

[valid gazelle]

funny question tho: does anyone play on linux ?

[wispy grove]

the water inside the pool is infinite bruv

[valid gazelle]

it is a puzzle

you're supposed to solve it

[ruby sorrel]

it's part of a quest chain

[wispy grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1482970542742048829/IDontRemember__20260207_1.gif

[keen river]

Its the weird sounds quest chain iirc

I dont think you can interact with those pools before you start it

[wispy grove]

OOHH A QUEST

okee i got u

lemme look for quests

[valid gazelle]

wait was it ? i just run over and solved it lol

[vale topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG47mHxdUww maybe that can help

[unreal laurel]

neither of these are in my quest log

any suggestions on where these are

[upper fiber]

the top one on qingbo, green quest on map

[keen river]

seekers of the treasure quest should be next to the starting TP

although you might need to meet the girl in cage first

[unreal laurel]

i see no gueen marker

[vale topaz]

can check from in game chat with operators, at that menu, 2nd tap usually for some side quest.

[unreal laurel]

define starting tp

[gentle sentinel]

You need to be on the map

[unreal laurel]

found both

ty

[keen river]

well, this one

there should be a guy hiding in grass if i recall

[unreal laurel]

A Lil late but thanks

[keen river]

👍

[ruby sorrel]

huh reminded me I never actually found the last qingbo intel

[keen river]

time for probably last trip to owls

[subtle finch]

why does that feel emotional

is it supposed to be this high already?

[keen river]

i think something is fishy with the computation tbh

it fills way faster than anticipted

[ruby sorrel]

just check the time it gives you

[dreamy jungle]

Were you able to fit those 5 xira lines ?

[keen river]

that is definitely too fast

although im not quite sure how long the maint is supposed to be

[subtle finch]

no way 😭 , plus i might need to redesign a bit if my guess about inert ratio is wrong

[dreamy jungle]

You can def put 3

At least i was lazy and put 3 singles https://enkad.enka.network/?id=d6T6U4m0t5h1s7

[upper fiber]

about 18hrs

[cyan forge]

.maint

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1776376800:F> ~ <t:1776398400:F>
• <t:1776376800:R> ~ <t:1776398400:R>
• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[keen river]

yeah

it ends 6am my time

[subtle finch]

i guess it's right, i stopped selling like less than an hour early

[keen river]

so i need to dump a bunch for sure

[marble yarrow]

Current Bill numbers exactly right now (<t:1776335595:t>):
Max Bills you should be having right now (sell excess): 1,966,928
Bills to be generated until maintenance ends: 633,072

[fluid fog]

already have like 2m so am ready tom.

[keen river]

i need to write in next questionare that it just should convert those to local time..

the random utc-something is totally useless

[ruby sorrel]

should just use UTC

idk why they insist on using random timezones

[keen river]

its not even consistent

i think some stuff was using UTC-6 too

[ruby sorrel]

wait really?

[keen river]

might have been due to daylight saving time

[jovial breach]

Eu shit

[leaden pulsar]

Is this accurate and how new crucible work?

[fluid fog]

w8 other is not in localtime? mine does it.

ohh the daylight saving, rip

[keen river]

i dont think anything is in local time at all

all dates in game are some sort of utf-xx

[wispy grove]

90% yes

[ruby sorrel]

I mean they've always used +8/-5 afaik

[wispy grove]

W88888888888

YOOWWWWWWWWW

[fluid fog]

ahh I get it. its just depends on region.

[wispy grove]

WHAT IF WE PUT SEWAGE AS AN OUTPUT?

so that it doesnt clog

[fluid fog]

but being +8 utc is preferred to us so no problem on my end.

[keen river]

not sure what asian serwer uses, i guess china server just uses their timezone so it matches

[ruby sorrel]

it's just easier if they used UTC proper so ppl don't have to double convert but no one ever does that for some reason

[subtle finch]

sewage in should be temporary right?

[wispy grove]

make sewage an output

[keen river]

imho it should be UTC+0 in textual announcements

but for in game timers, not reason not to convert them to local time

[subtle finch]

it's difficult, since output is 2/s, you need it clogged for it to be consumed

[wispy grove]

true

[fluid fog]

output being clogged is not good

[wispy grove]

the premise of this crucible is to have sewage inside like atleast 10 to20 to kick start the whole production, without adding more sewage.

but if thats the case we need manually remove the sewage pipe

which is i dont like doing it but it has to be

[marble yarrow]

close enuf

equal amount of sewage is consumed and produced inside so no need for a pipe input

but the xircon effluent needs another help so you purify the inert

(also RIP the xiranite input icon missing in my image)

[subtle finch]

what made you changed your mind about the ratio? the income?

[marble yarrow]

1:1 is a stretch

lmaooo

[wispy grove]

[marble yarrow]

also i have seen in the program that they are force feeding an xircon pipe and treated inert to a single forge for heavy xiranite

and it is clogging

[vale topaz]

if this is forced, then xircon will be 1 in 4 sec.
since xircon require 2 xircon liquid and each require xiranite.
2 crucible with 2 xiranite input, 2 water input, 2 sewage input and 1 ferrium dust being separated

[subtle finch]

i guess considering purification unit also produces sewage, it makes sense

[marble yarrow]

theres a byproduct not shown in the vid but they provided a pipe and exit conduit after treating the inert xircon

[subtle finch]

yeah, im guessing that's sewage

[wispy grove]

nahh if thats the case we should be looking 2inert = 1 sewage +1 xircon eff

we can easily see that on acid, why not on inert?

[subtle finch]

question is would they let us select the output for purification unit, that would also break my design

[wispy grove]

the conduit is just deception

[wispy grove]

wdym? you want pass through?

i think it is selectable

[marble yarrow]

pretty sure. its a colored outlet

[vale topaz]

2 liquid input ? 2 liquid output.

[subtle finch]

again, hopefully 2nd input is redundant, my layout assumes one port can take 2/s

[vale topaz]

i need to rewatch the vid

[dreamy jungle]

Is it 2 input?

[marble yarrow]

it is

[keen river]

it looks like one input, two outputs?

[marble yarrow]

maybe the ghost-like orange

[subtle finch]

dual purification would be great

[fervent lodge]

hmmm, purification may imply a byproduct

[fervent lodge]

because it'll separate the contamination

[keen river]

might be

[fervent lodge]

or just 2 at once like crucib

[tribal crescent]

I'm hoping xircon affluent

[subtle finch]

cuprium solution purified = hetonite solution (acid byproduct)
inert effluent purified = xircon effluent (sewage byproduct)

[tribal crescent]

Since we do need xircon for heavy xiranite

[subtle finch]

we already saw it's acid

[tribal crescent]

Dissolve insoluble things

What could this possibly mean

[vale topaz]

cuprium dust + acid should become copium.....

[cyan jay]

is hydro rigs + conduit the best ore mining? and should I replace all my rigs with it

[tribal crescent]

Depends

1 pump is 10 power

[upper fiber]

in wuling yes

[tribal crescent]

And it can support 3 high purity mine

[vale topaz]

powwr usage vs map protocol space usage

[tribal crescent]

Or 6 low purity mine

[subtle finch]

acid powered hydro rig would be awesome, gives us double the rate

[tribal crescent]

So pick your poison

[cyan jay]

oof

[tribal crescent]

Cuz you will probably hit that protocol limit

[upper fiber]

tomorrow might be my last update, 1.3 just too long

[tribal crescent]

With the new dev level

I think I'll have to rework the hydro rigs

Again

[keen river]

1.3 seem like two updates smashed into one version tbh

[dreamy jungle]

Instead of ore you get the solution already

[keen river]

so it really depends on how much content there is in each of them

[tribal crescent]

What is 1 patch

5 weeks?

Idk maybe 1.4 is celebration

[keen river]

1.3 seem to be like 6 weeks+ ?

[tribal crescent]

Honestly i think they have a lot of last minute changes

[keen river]

but its really two versions, one with Marker Square and other with Test Zone

[tribal crescent]

Which causes their stocked up content to run dry soon

[dense blade]

7 weeks 1.2

[dreamy jungle]

Is 1.2 finale or more wuling in 1.3?

[upper fiber]

if 2nd half also 34days.... 10 weeks

[keen river]

well, conflicting news about what 1.3 might be

they announfced 1.2 as some sort of climax etc

but then you have 3 more wuling operators

[silent violet]

you know what im gonna go out on a limb and say 8 forge sub is not possible
i only made half of the design and thats about as compact as youre going to get 1/2 of the design and its already cooked without even including the other 6 sandleaf planters and the aic itself

[keen river]

8 forges self contained is definitely not possible

there was an 8 forge design yesterday but it used outside planters

[wispy grove]

every crucible have that even if it doesnt have a pipe

[dreamy jungle]

Actually also dabbled a bit on 8 forge sub but gave up

[tardy bridge]

My factory is blocked and I don't know what I'm doing

[dreamy jungle]

Pac should go away

[tardy bridge]

[marble yarrow]

i mean the colored pipe means selectable output

[wispy grove]

ohhh

okee

[marble yarrow]

you cant do that in separating unit

[fervent lodge]

self-contained is not even that efficient, right?

[silent violet]

this is pretty clean and compact tho and you can probably turn it into something useful like a 6 xira 2 heavy forge design but no point going further until the update drops

[fervent lodge]

it forces a constraint of having to route every sand belt

meanwhile if you do external plants it's whatever it'll self-distribute

just eats a bit more power

i'm def gonna just run with my 10 forge design with either 2 forges removed to fit jincao while we don't have 12 unlocked, or just removed

to not move jincao after

[silent violet]

i mean i guess? depends on how efficient your standalone setup is

if you can get the planters to fit really snug in a separate aic and not waste too much space to stashes or depot loaders probably separate is less square footage

[fervent lodge]

yea but this thing for example reduces the efficiency already

and increases footprint by the virtue of all powder not being routed > needing more planters

[silent violet]

not really, you only need 17 planters for 8 forge

[fervent lodge]

yeah that's what i mean pretty much

[silent violet]

16 sandleaf powder is 5.33 sandleaf

so you can get away with 2 shredders working at 2/3rds without wasting

[fervent lodge]

true

[silent violet]

unless your plan is to make 6/min and stash the 0.66 to use somewhere else

[fervent lodge]

water wher

[silent violet]

yeah i am aware

its not a finished design yet so no need to worry about the details

[gaunt quail]

what are the ratios on the purification unit and Inert Effluent to normal Effluent? Can't tell by the livestream. Also, do we know if there's a secondary/waste output from the process - the livestream had a 2nd piped output, but it seemed unused?

[silent violet]

usually i just try to get a layout that works then work on shifting things to get power/water working

[fervent lodge]

world if machines could output directly to input ports:

world if 1x1 pylon:

world if 2x3 stash:

[silent violet]

world if mirrorable buildings

[fervent lodge]

i still like the constraints

less aesthetics but more jank funny packing

[silent violet]

makes it interesting for sure

otherwise it would just be manifold simulator like other factory games

[subtle finch]

item conduit would be nice

[marble yarrow]

protocol unloader

[silent violet]

you know what actually i take that back you have to have unloaders for all of your plants and the depots are fat as fuck in wuling

self contained is definitely smaller

[pulsar cypress]

Changeable double conduit please..
That can be swap whether it is input or output..
So can set it to input one side, output other side..

[subtle finch]

v4 bus are actually 3 wide

[keen river]

v4 bus has one massive demerit, you can't walk on it :<

[upper fiber]

v4 is taller, wuling one is fatter

[dreamy jungle]

Why you have to place them inside

[subtle finch]

are you fat shaming the wuling bus?

[pulsar cypress]

V4 height 4 wide 3
Wuling height 3 wide 4
XD

[dense blade]

V4 is automatically fatter bc you can’t move it

[upper fiber]

why not, not like it will feel shamed

[fervent lodge]

yes but it doesn't matter because unloader width is smaller or equal to than the footprint of the buildings that needs them

[silent violet]

u dont need unloaders at all if its self contained

at least for xiranite

[fervent lodge]

true but then you have large-ass poorly tileable planters with no global redistribution

[silent violet]

it is what it is

you can always tile a 30/min xira design

not very space efficient tho

[fervent lodge]

yea

i like this one the most

[silent violet]

whats teh footprint on that

wait there r no planters

fuck that shit

[fervent lodge]

10x21

exactly 5 fit into subpac

[silent violet]

for the low price of 25x15 you can get planters included and have no depot

[fervent lodge]

but 15 doesn't divide by 50 :3

[silent violet]

25 does

[marble yarrow]

my long blueprint shi

[silent violet]

can get 6 of them hoes in there

3 rows of 2

[fervent lodge]

true but that's only 6

meanwhile i can do 10 and have space left over

you can tell i'm not a huge fan of planters

[silent violet]

lmao

[fervent lodge]

i prefer standalone arrays of them out of sight

ugly ass

[silent violet]

everybody got their own preferences

[jovial breach]

Endfield tomorrow?

[subtle finch]

1 stash per forge is criminal though

[fervent lodge]

i mean

[silent violet]

real question why did you make a 10 forge design when we r only gettin 8

and 2of them are for heavy

[fervent lodge]

here less stash

[fervent lodge]

futureproofing

also just because it fit

[upper fiber]

no stash

[silent violet]

but with 12 forge we probably gonna make 4 heavy

[wispy grove]

[fervent lodge]

i can fit heavy here.

[wispy grove]

stashless good?

[fervent lodge]

[upper fiber]

man have to change forge setup again after 34days

[silent violet]

yo you were talking about me using only 2/3rds of a shredding unit but u did that shit 10x over 💀

aw hell nah

[subtle finch]

that was my first reaction too

[fervent lodge]

yeah but that's precisely what i was talking about

it self-distributes via depot

compared to if you feed it straight from planter and planter clogs

[silent violet]

but the planters were set up specifically to put out 1.33/min

[fervent lodge]

yeah but they're still there

underperforming

[silent violet]

but it saves you the 6th planter

6 planters makes 2 sandleaf

[subtle finch]

should be the same, except extra power cost of the shredder

[silent violet]

but you only need 1.33

[silent violet]

so you can get away with 5 planters

[fervent lodge]

how

10 forges require that amount of sandleaf

oh wait i'm dumb

was disconnected

[silent violet]

well the one that you were referring to was for an 8 forge design

[fervent lodge]

ah, yeah

right

but still, the fact that production ratios impose constraints on layout is yet another design downside

meanwhile you can let depot be the balancer and don't car

[silent violet]

modularity

also you have to manage production of each part separately

if you have self contained modules you always know you are producing enough

[fervent lodge]

yeah that could be seen as an upside

[vast iron]

Unless you make a depot-based 3-in-1 layout shredder efficiency is below full ig

[fervent lodge]

but then again, i can easily reduce or increase both demand and consumption regardless of each other with no footprint constraints

which i value a bit more esp considering we have free real estate

[silent violet]

its chill there are pros and cons of any approach

[fervent lodge]

ya

[vast iron]

No approach is perfect

True

[fervent lodge]

like initially i was "must keep ratios all the way down if i have leftover sandleaf i need to double up the entire thing to merge that belt into the neighbor"

but then i realized it's just more chill to let it clog and let it be modular or symmetric

[golden sapphire]

yeah

i don't know how 12 forges will work

[pulsar cypress]

[subtle finch]

you can save the shredder, but i wouldn't call it good

[fervent lodge]

[small creek]

wtf green 3x3 🤮

[subtle finch]

that's the hole that you left in my heart with your design

also, staggered grinders are so ugly. im not using them unless its symmetric

[fervent lodge]

staggered grinders is just how you make them thin

else you're stuck with 12x

and 12x makes sense on 60 but not on 50

[wispy grove]

sorry bro 1:1 thats final

alright im more convinced on the 2: 1+1

that makes things more complicated

cause i can just loop back the sewage from purifier to expanded reactor

[valid gazelle]

Tmr

The update is so close now

[wispy grove]

NAH I CANT WAIT

I CANT SLEEP

I NEED TO OVERTHINK THIS RECIPE

[river badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1419765747499929765.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=catwait

[wispy grove]

[valid gazelle]

Im just gonna.. wait and see what's coming

[silent violet]

its gonna be 2.71:1

[valid gazelle]

@subtle finch gonna keep the quota of 12mins per bp tmr ?

[subtle finch]

it actually takes me a lot of time to cook a bp worth sharing

[valid gazelle]

Oh no..

Anyway I think imma smash my factory to accompany the new stuffs

Totally forgot to stockpile the goods

[vale topaz]

.maintenance

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1776376800:F> ~ <t:1776398400:F>
• <t:1776376800:R> ~ <t:1776398400:R>
• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[vale topaz]

4:30 more hours to maintenance..... , going to do my dailiy

[keen river]

is the maintenance even in same time on all servers?

or asia gets stuff 12 hours early again

[valid gazelle]

Uhm..

[marble yarrow]

.maintenance

[cinder sun]

Server Maintenance Completion

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1776376800:F> ~ <t:1776398400:F>
• <t:1776376800:R> ~ <t:1776398400:R>
• Server open at: <t:1776398400:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[valid gazelle]

It is around 10 hours from now

11.00AM for me..

Looks about right

[keen river]

for me

i mean, i just wonder

[valid gazelle]

Amelek in UK ?

[keen river]

asian server gets new banners and daily reset like 12h earlier than eu server

nah, europe

[valid gazelle]

Ah okie

[wispy grove]

BRO I CANT WAITTTTTTTTTTTTT

[keen river]

always when new banner or quests drop i see people have been playing it for hours already and streaming with new operators

i have no clue why its even a case

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-upset-annoyed-stitch-ugh-gif-12794223972996305063

[lusty violet]

version updates are same time iirc

[valid gazelle]

Im still questioning to why the different servers

It is so inconvenient when we have friends across continents

[wispy grove]

true, but the duration is already there

[keen river]

there is a massive ping differences between servers due to physics, cant be helped

[silent violet]

cursed enough yet?

[keen river]

although they could all be sharing same database honestly

its not really a multiplayer game after all

[valid gazelle]

The misaligned bus

Im hoping for coop too ...

[silent violet]

it actually should be fine with the misaligned bus

[subtle finch]

not enough bridges

[valid gazelle]

The misaligned bus is triggering me

[silent violet]

has to be that way lmao

[keen river]

but the ping diffeernce is massive

[silent violet]

just gotta do the reverse on the other side

i think 11 forge is possible

[keen river]

i have been playing on eu server from japan last month and you get like 1s pings

to a point where you get a loading screen when you pick stuff sometimes

[valid gazelle]

It but it's not symmetrical

[silent violet]

yeah its cool

[valid gazelle]

[silent violet]

theres an extra row on the other side

[blissful dragon]

I just unlocked wuling, how do you get power?

[valid gazelle]

By crafting battery

[keen river]

transfer like 10k batteries from valley 4

and they will last till you can make wuling batteries

[valid gazelle]

You have to get to the story part where you unlock the forge of the sky

So you can make xyranite

Xyranite battery

[blissful dragon]

also you cant make anything with the first tier of AIC? I just saw pumps and something making fluid, dont see any production at all

[subtle finch]

don't bother with wuling battery, hc batteries are superior anyways

[valid gazelle]

[keen river]

you definitely can skip burning first tier wuling bateries and just use the v4 ones

second tier batteries are ok but its hard to balance the power so you will waste a lot of them

[valid gazelle]

Those batteries are chonky af

[sick basin]

This is fake

[orchid pilot]

once we have the great wall of sewage and hc batteries, 8/4 should be possible

because wall should output 2/s free xircon

[subtle finch]

i need endfield polymarket

[orchid pilot]

enough to run each of the 4 heavy conversions. and by that point we no longer care to run lc or sc, presumably all hc eating heavy

[orchid pilot]

i'd be broke... staring at my 80k steel bottles of jincao and yazhen from 1.0 😭

[wispy grove]

we need to list the recipes bro

[orchid pilot]

see harunachan's graphic flowchart

[orchid pilot]

see this for text list

[tardy bridge]

Guys help

I have unlocked many modules but the factory belts just break when I want to supply multiple modules from the same source

[tall tangle]

belt splitters

[sterile stratus]

is mine ok

[tardy bridge]

Available in basic AIC 2 ?

[sterile stratus]

check it yourself

[tardy bridge]

Oke

[sterile stratus]

wiki said it's basic AIC 2

[vale topaz]

well, at least mine show april 16, 10 pm for maintenance time

[silent violet]

12 forge might be possible if not for the fact we only get 1 depot root node

[cyan forge]

main aic?

[silent violet]

sub

[small creek]

Youre pregnant

[silent violet]

6 takes roughly half of the area

[sterile stratus]

we have 2 right?

[silent violet]

is there an upgrade that gives you more than one

[keen river]

no

[sick basin]

[keen river]

wuling city gets two cores, but outposts get only one

[silent violet]

unfortunately true

[keen river]

but you can move all this stuff one pixel down

and then you can fit the depot easily

[silent violet]

the aim was to not have to have depots across the middle

save space that way

[pulsar cypress]

Umm.. It already took half..
But the other half less space since there's main pac also must be in place..

[silent violet]

doesnt make it impossible

aic provides depot slots without needing space for the bus

[sterile stratus]

6 spots?

6 outputs

[pulsar cypress]

Oh true, assume it another 2 depot side by side..

[silent violet]

idea would be something like this

[sterile stratus]

uhm-

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc someone shared 12 forge one a bit long ago..
But forget, maybe wrong..

[silent violet]

12? i kind of doubt that

there was a 10

barely anybody is working on shit like this

[sterile stratus]

i want to but i'm not a designer

i suck at designing ANYTHING

[pulsar cypress]

Oh.. Maybe 10 yess.. Forget..

[sterile stratus]

is there a 11

[silent violet]

anyone can cook

[sterile stratus]

btw what's the size of pac

the field to place stuff

[silent violet]

11 is wip

[sterile stratus]

i forgor

[silent violet]

50x50

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

[pulsar cypress]

Me too.. My 6 forges design kinda messy.. XD

[sterile stratus]

what about subpac

same?

[silent violet]

main is 80 sub is 50

[sterile stratus]

oh

[silent violet]

in wuling

[sterile stratus]

i was working on 70x70

[pulsar cypress]

Pac is sub, main is aic..

[orchid pilot]

god, finally finished building Fruit's farms-onsite 7-forge outpost

[sterile stratus]

mhmmm

[orchid pilot]

absolute hell building it while trying to preserve the existing 4 lines of prod

fell asleep in the middle and crashed factory for a few hours

[fervent lodge]

I made sandleaf summoning circle

[silent violet]

surely using windmills is smaller

[pulsar cypress]

Summoning square.. °-°)b

[subtle finch]

@marble yarrow take back the idea of 2:1! I hate it

[silent violet]

its 2:1 accept it

[fervent lodge]

it's 3:1 abandon all hope

[sterile stratus]

really

[silent violet]

water byproduct means it has to be less than 1:1

[sterile stratus]

is this the heavy stuff

[silent violet]

also it might be even worse

cuprium solution is 4:1

[wispy grove]

yeah it looks horrendous

[silent violet]

just merge 2 production lines

[fervent lodge]

what are windmills

[sterile stratus]

is this subpac or main pac size in wuling

[silent violet]

sub

[sterile stratus]

i can imagine some shape possible in aic

[wispy grove]

bro you took the long way

[sterile stratus]

my friend accidentally made it

[fervent lodge]

but this is water

[pulsar cypress]

Kinda thinking thou..
Is it worth force try 12 forge on one subpac..
Still the other subpac will be fully filled with plants farm right..

In the end it will be still 2 subpac consumed?
Kinda similar with 2 subpac with 6 forge each?

[fervent lodge]

• no storage footprint

[sterile stratus]

can i ask why build forge on subpac?

[wispy grove]

noo bro we already saw 7 forge, and its full. so full

[orchid pilot]

12 is not worth unless they raise forge limit beyond 12 imo

[keen river]

12 forge build is pointless anyway if you are going to use some forges for heavy xiranite..

[sterile stratus]

pac should be possible right

[fervent lodge]

it's FUNNY

[silent violet]

its just for fun, not gonna be actually useful anyway some of the 12 forges will be for heavy anyway

[orchid pilot]

their 12 is with remote farms

[sterile stratus]

bro...

[silent violet]

when the patch drops ill probably attempt 6+2 as my main project for the patch

sub

[ruby sorrel]

gotta do story first

[fervent lodge]

where do you even fit 12

ship dense ground carbon?

[silent violet]

i mean

this is 6

[sterile stratus]

10 looks close enough

[orchid pilot]

by wishing away the PAC probably lol

[fervent lodge]

yeah and PAC eats the hell out of it

😭

[subtle finch]

yes

[sterile stratus]

can i borrow the 6 and try making it 12

[cyan forge]

main aic gonna be xira maxing?

[sterile stratus]

hopefully tho

[vale topaz]

.... umm, reminder not to translate 12 forge as 12 xiranite, since those forges also used for heavy xiranite, so probably only 8 for xiranite and 4 for heavy or something

[small creek]

12. hundred. xiranites.

[dreamy jungle]

u could have just copied my code

[sterile stratus]

5 hundred-

[silent violet]

pac isnt actually that bad cause it saves you using basically 1 whole depot bus section + 6 unloaders

[pulsar cypress]

Its just testing the most packed can get.
*maybe so the main can place other stuffs needed
So u will only monitoring the main, can leave the sub eternally producing plants and xiranite..

[sterile stratus]

...

[orchid pilot]

fml didn't know you made a code lol

it's ok

i'm stronger for having gone through it

[elfin elm]

Wait. What kind of web/app/program did u use for planning this???

[small creek]

minecraft endfield mod

[vale topaz]

it's over 9 thousands....

[silent violet]

https://enkad.enka.network/

made by @fervent lodge

[dreamy jungle]

it's this btw #1494206812147417188 message

[small creek]

l

[elfin elm]

gtk

[orchid pilot]

oh fruit

[silent violet]

@fervent lodge when are you implementing facility count to have a more realistic experience

[orchid pilot]

you may want to add a disclaimer that in sky king flats it'll require an extra pump from outside the gate

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Me understand..

[silent violet]

not the complete aic experience without getting cockblocked

[orchid pilot]

at least, I could only figure out how to squeeze 6 pumps into sky king flats little pond

[fervent lodge]

i mean just select everything and it'll show you if you're cockblocked or not

doesn't it depend on ziplines anyway?

[small creek]

Yea so

u gonna have to have prot cap + zipline slider

[silent violet]

true

[small creek]

turrets, etc

[silent violet]

add a map where u can put down ziplines

and each one removes 1 fac count

[dreamy jungle]

im sure people know where to get water