aic-factory

[keen river]

Yeah, you can always just paste some blueprints from other players and be done

[orchid pilot]

you're probably in the wrong channel to ask haha, maybe try like a lore channel or something?
I think it's all factory nerds here

they would probably still say yes but might say that blueprinting is annoying, etc.

whereas to us it's whatever

[sacred tiger]

Yes you right but like the factory is a big part of the enjoyment of the game?

[keen river]

Well, depends on the player i suppose

[orchid pilot]

I think that's a personal question for you

like, do you enjoy the open-world exploration type stuff

[sacred tiger]

I like the gameplay and the story so

[sacred tiger]

Yes

[orchid pilot]

👍

[keen river]

You arent incentivized to redo the factory much or forced to manage it constantly

[orchid pilot]

then I think you're good

[keen river]

So pastign some blueprints for factory regions is all you will really need

[sacred tiger]

Tyyyy

[orchid pilot]

yup, if you're not particulaly concerned about gear, you can wait a few days after each patch to ensure blueprint sharers have worked out the kinks, then set and forget

[south vector]

What's the average yield I should have of all the main raw ores for an optimized factory? (I just got the Wuling and I don't think my Core and Sub areas are optimized)

[keen river]

You will still need to deploy power lines to mining spots, but thats just part of exploration

[orchid pilot]

currently, 90 ferrium, 480 ori, 120 cuprium

[sacred tiger]

I actually think I like the factory but like I just don’t like how hard it’s like for me.

[orchid pilot]

smart small and easy and work your way up!

[keen river]

Its not that hard once you gasp it tbh

[orchid pilot]

and ask lots of questions if you want, there will always be folks here happy to help

[keen river]

Its only somewhat hard if you want to make some sort of super optimized factory but thats 500% just to flex it online

Just working factory is more than you need

[sacred tiger]

Yes I really want to get a good factory should I start with my Bally factory and then wailing?

Wuling

[keen river]

yeah, that will be somewhat easier

but both are pretty similar tbh

factory building is more of a puzzle in this game really

[orchid pilot]

If you care about endgame resources (the artifice water things), I'd suggest just copying wuling blueprints that has clear enough instructions for you to follow, if you have nothing already set up, then you can come back to rework it as you like once you're confident / comfortable

If you're in no hurry, then yeah, go ahead and start from valley4

Rather than trying to set up a whole factory, I would recommend you step through figuring out the chains for each of the main products, so that you have maximum output coming out of the last facility (either 1 per 2sec or 1 per 10 sec, depending on the product).

I'd start from simplest (buck/citrome c) and work up to most complex (v4 hc battery)

At this point, I don't really remember the tutorials... I think the first ones introduce mechanics / UI but after that iirc it's kinda just layouts and doesn't try to teach concepts or reasons. But I may be misremembering; you can certainly try those if you haven't already

I haven't read it closely yet, but I would trust Algoinde's writeup to be better at teaching concepts than the in-game handholding
https://enkad.enka.network/tutorial

[distant bear]

Where the event bps smhsmhsmh

[orchid pilot]

lmao I hope they use the event to shake things up but it kinda sounds like it's just, uh, a bonus multiplier on existing items, then go redeem points at a shop

[distant bear]

It's event specific recipes

[dense blade]

the in-game tutorials ain’t that bad either

just do a few of them and then you’ll see the pattern emerge

and the rest is intuitive

[orchid pilot]

ohhh thanks, somehow I totally forgot that! exciting!

[south vector]

Is there a bunch of originium mines In Wuling or the Auberry Quarry? Because my current yield is at 252.

[orchid pilot]

oh, sorry, you said you just got wuling? this is at wuling regional development level 9 (current max)

at 1.0's max of lv6, it was, uh

[south vector]

Ah ok, yes I did just get to Wuling

[orchid pilot]

240/min was the cap at lv6 (1.0 patch max)

also you are aware that wuling and v4 are completely separate inventories, right?

just checking, since you mentioned quarry, which is a valley 4 zone

[south vector]

Yes

[orchid pilot]

👍

[south vector]

yeah I was just wondering about Auberry Quarry cuz I was putting off going into the area, so wasnt sure whether there was a bunch of mining areas in there or not

[orchid pilot]

iirc only amethyst, let me double check

maybe a little ori

yeah only amethyst

no big deal

amethyst is extremely low value in v4 endgame

[south vector]

cool, thanks for the help 😄

[orchid pilot]

as long as you have enough for facilities, ziplines, etc, that's fine imo. not optimal of course but not a huge deal

sorry not 240/min, I can't math yet again

360/min was previous cap

[south vector]

at lvl 6?

[orchid pilot]

yup

[south vector]

so does that mean Im missing some mining areas?

[orchid pilot]

because it was exactly enough for 2 lc battery lines

if you're at lv6 and only getting 252, it could be, or it could also be that you are depot-capped (or depot-empty) and running exactly 252 of production

360/min was enough for exactly two LC battery lines (assuming no component production)

[south vector]

hmm ok

[orchid pilot]

and at that time we had only two skyforges so it exactly lined up

there is, iirc, a node inside a cave that's "hidden" by the fake wall mechanic

where it looks like a solid thing but as soon as you attack, mist fades

southern end of wuling city, south of the guhou marsh teleport

[jolly shore]

wondering if I should use up some of my stockpile to run the clock back to 30h, though it will probably be a couple hours before I have an opportunity to upgrade the stockage again

the bills are nice but I'll get a lot more sooner if I upgrade asap

[worldly stone]

For some reason I have 30 yield for originium in Wuling despite having all the rigs and mining spots hooked up. Anyone know a reason for why this could be?

[valid gazelle]

Some of your spots are not provided with power

Check for red power lines on the map

Or your depot is full

And you aren't using more than 30 to make space for the yield being sent from the mining rigs

[worldly stone]

Thanks for the advice I’ll check everything you recommended👍

[frozen thicket]

anyone else running out of ferrium in wuling / how to fix?

my xiranite factories are basically sputtering because the supply isnt fast enough

i connected to all of the veins in bugui grove (north of core aic) already

[upper fiber]

90 ferrium yield?

[frozen thicket]

yeah

[upper fiber]

that's max yield so you're good

[frozen thicket]

is that all you can get??

i can try transfering from valley iv i guess

[upper fiber]

yeah, metatransfer ferrium cube or part

[crystal cypress]

So is it worth setting up dense originium crust in wuling or should I just transfer them from v4?

Also is it correct that hydro miners are slower than mk2?

Or am I missing something

[pulsar cypress]

Hydro same with mk2 but less energy consumption.

Coz the energy only for the pump used.

[crystal cypress]

Really it says 1 every 6s for hydro but mk2 is 1 per 3s?

[hoary crag]

I wonder how much power the new pumps and crucibles would use

[pulsar cypress]

The yield get still the same even after replacing with hydro. Not down to half.

[crystal cypress]

Hmm so if ive got the power dont worry about hydros?

[hoary crag]

yup

[pulsar cypress]

New cruc is 100, double of normal one.
Pump not sure.

[hoary crag]

100 is wild lmao

I know a certain powermaxxer ain't gonna be happy with that

[crystal cypress]

How many outposts does q
Wuling have? Just the stockade?

[hoary crag]

yes, but we'll get a new one tomorrow

[pulsar cypress]

Well.. Just assume its full dry material cruc merge to normal cruc..
XD

[hoary crag]

I mean on friday

😭

[crystal cypress]

Hmm wonder how close i am to it

Just unlocked cupric stuff

[pulsar cypress]

Very close.. Time goes fast..

[hoary crag]

lmao

[pulsar cypress]

XD

[hoary crag]

I can finally play endfield again tomorrow

cuz that's when my replacement charger arrives

just in time for final prep before update

[pulsar cypress]

Time to destroy and rebuild the factory.. -_-)

[wispy grove]

its not tomorrow, its today is 15

[crystal cypress]

What do you guys make in v4 to move to wu?

[hoary crag]

yeah I lost track for a bit

[hoary crag]

18/min on both HC batteries and Buck Cap A

[wispy grove]

if youre new in wuling, its HC battery. if youre minmaxing production, its ferrium or dense originium

[hoary crag]

since once you're in wuling the only thing you'll do with v4 production would be just to sell

[wispy grove]

the question looks vague

[hoary crag]

although I do recommend taking at least 200-400 HC batteries with you when you go to wuling

basically as a temporary power source while you're setting up your LC wuling battery lines

[crystal cypress]

Yeah i did that the first two days in wu to stockpile some xerite

[crystal cypress]

Dense originium makes sense but why ferrium? I dont see any reason to use it yet

[upper fiber]

then suffer the painful lvling up from lv1 outpost

[wispy grove]

thats because some people use fractional factory

[winged oriole]

Ferrium is to help work down accumulated stock bills after initial build/phases/story

after some point you can just not care though

But given metatransfer is free materials and automatic most people make it ferrium ore

[wispy grove]

instead of making 200% sc battery factory that yields 12/min, people use like 175% sc factory, yielding 10.5/min. some excess goes to comps, yazhen C(that uses ferrium) and another hc battery to help energy sustenance. it affects mostly the yazhen c cause of lack of ferrium thats why we need more on meta transfer.

[upper fiber]

meta transfer -> ferrium cube
usual transfer -> ferrium ore

[wispy grove]

i meta transfer ferrium ore

maybe its just preference at this point

on what u lack in your factory

[upper fiber]

more like you can only use ferrium cube up, ferrium ore need to be refined

might as well get the refined one

[crystal cypress]

But why wouldn't I just load my inventory with that and tp over?

Or is meta transfer constant

[upper fiber]

meta transfer is FREE, MAGIC

[wispy grove]

and constant yes

[valid fox]

I just meta transfer ferrium parts instead of ore, that way I also don't slowly drain the ferrium ore supply when producing partial yazhen C

[crystal cypress]

Oh. So save meta for the expensive stuff, got it

[wispy grove]

meta transfer just creates ferrium out of thin air, it doesnt take ferrium from stoage in v4

[crystal cypress]

Does v4 need all outposts at 4 to get rdm maxxed?

[wispy grove]

yeah i think

oh w8

just upgrade everything🥀

[crystal cypress]

Oh its doable with just max depot and recycling?

Guess I need to ramp up buck(a)s to get that prosperity

[valid gazelle]

Its just prosperity grind

[crystal cypress]

Or is there a prosperity/min calculator.

[valid gazelle]

There has always been

[crystal cypress]

What where

[valid gazelle]

It shows ingame too

Wait gimme a bit

[crystal cypress]

Oh wait this guy?

https://endfield-ilp-optimizer.streamlit.app/

[wispy grove]

first time making this boxed shape

[mild imp]

Damn that looks good

[wispy grove]

the problem is, if it really work

[mild imp]

Thats valid asf

my setup may not be pretty but it seems to work

[wispy grove]

i converge sewage and water in the same pipe. im expecting that if the sewage goes back to refinery, it will just pass through like how crucibles work

[mild imp]

oh boy

[wispy grove]

then remove the small piece of sewage pipe once you have like 10-20 sewage within the expanded crucible so that it wont add more sewage inside.

if it works, i cooked

is there other recipe that needs sewage??

[valid gazelle]

So far only SirCon i think

[wispy grove]

or i can just do this

48 x 36 can fit in one bp

[valid gazelle]

Very symmetrical

[iron stratus]

it doesn't do that

[wispy grove]

its just assumption tho

[nimble topaz]

is it just me or the AIC tutorials are kinda boring? I stopped caring about them and figuring things out on my own feels more fun

even though I need to redesign my factory multiple times because I didn't read if a product is 1 for 2 or 2 for 1

[distant bear]

They're for average gacha playerTM

[wispy grove]

most people skip those if youre quickt to learn

[distant bear]

We don't talk about those people not even doing them in the first place

[wispy grove]

for new to the factory its still essential

especially for those who dont read

the recipe is already in the facilities themselves. its up to us how to maximize the production of it, so yeah its okay to skip it

[valid gazelle]

That's the dilemma. Those who are into factory building don't need it and those who aren't giving a care to the factory skips it

[wispy grove]

well, if they skip it, its their loss anyways. cause the moment their factory shuts down, they have to go back to tutorials to know the problem and fix it.

but if you know how it works. tutorials are just free rewards

i like factory enough that if i dont know something ill read tutorials. especially when the hydro rigs first introduced. i was so confused at first

[valid gazelle]

At some point i stopped telling my friends to do it when they dont want to. And now they are complaining how Im so far ahead on my operators

And yes the factory is the whole reason why im into Endfield anyway

[wispy grove]

yeah many people quit because of the factory part. i mean, its part of the game. if you wanna keep playing endfield, you have to embrace the factory side of the game or else youll just fall behind every time.

[valid gazelle]

I straight up telling them to just play ww or g game instead. I'm more than willing to help with factoy building and such but.. leaving the core character of a game is just.. meh

[wispy grove]

the 4 foundations of endfield: the gacha, the gameplay, the factory, and the sandleaf

[sterile stratus]

really

[sterile stratus]

sandleaf in the big 2026

[valid gazelle]

Cant be an endfielder if you dont have some production lines being clogged because sandleafs are clogging the depot

[willow beacon]

the factory is awesome as long as you ignore the reaction crucible

[valid gazelle]

What

[willow beacon]

the reaction crucible is the devil itself

[sterile stratus]

wym it's nice

[valid gazelle]

The reactor crucible is so fun

[willow beacon]

i hate that thing

[wispy grove]

learned that the hard way🥀

[valid gazelle]

And it looks good on camera too

[sterile stratus]

sandleaf is clogged because it shreds into 3 powders

tru

[valid gazelle]

Xyranite production line always has 1 extra sandleaf powder

[sterile stratus]

so i design a 3x forge

although it looks ugly it works

[wispy grove]

yeahh i used the same stash on xiranite and sandleaf powder. hell nah i just woke up to find i lose 6 hrs of xiranite production because of it

[sterile stratus]

lol

[wispy grove]

its good tho, we learn from mistakes -tony stark

[sonic summit]

so we use 2 sandleaf farm to make 3 xira lines effective

[sterile stratus]

so we lowk eat those excessive sandleaf

[valid gazelle]

Or we dump them to Wuling

[sterile stratus]

mhm makes sense

[wispy grove]

yeah and because we have like 8 forges soon, 6 of them will be xiranite products

[sterile stratus]

flood the whole city with sandleaf so there's no place for the blight

[wispy grove]

we can just duplicate 3 line xira

[sterile stratus]

i'm so smart

[sterile stratus]

true lol

when i saw 8 forges i freaked out

[river wadi]

what to do with amethyst

[sterile stratus]

i thought i have to use 2x or 4x forge

[sterile stratus]

C stuff

i lowk need more amethyst for my C prod line

[river wadi]

buck capsule and canned citrome C sell for 10 bills but they are made with 5 amethyst bottles which you could just sell directly for 2 bills each for 10 bills per 5 bottles

[sterile stratus]

tbh endmin should raise the C product price

bro is selling it like dirt

[sonic summit]

both my wuling and valey already got max sand leaf powder though and i always use them for delivery sacrifice

[river wadi]

so making c meds is just a waste of power

[sterile stratus]

relatable

...

ok i might be dumb

yeah no i'm surely stupid

🥀

nah actually no i just making them for fun

[sonic summit]

bruv in the world where rhodes island (a pharma compacy ) already make better item we cant compete except by reducing price lore wise

[sterile stratus]

amethyst bottle is full in v4

smh

[sterile stratus]

yeah can't complain

[wispy grove]

wtf? i didnt know this

🥀

[sterile stratus]

good thing they can't even make more

[wispy grove]

sameee

[sterile stratus]

and i can't even sell for any more like

[wispy grove]

just min maxing storage

[river wadi]

why cant u sell

[sterile stratus]

8+8+16 it's not even worth time switching to a different product

just wait a bit and sell buck capsules A and HC valley bat

ig im good

[valid gazelle]

Bruh

[sonic summit]

wait .... so i can just sell purple bottle instead of making buck c and citro C

what a waste of electricity

[wispy grove]

TRUE🥀

[river wadi]

amethyst is literally useless

[ruby sorrel]

turn them into batts and burn them

[sonic summit]

fakin useless

[wispy grove]

Imagine the whole community getting decieved on bps just to make those canned and buck c for min maxing

[ruby sorrel]

not like you need the other batts anyways

[river wadi]

unfortunately all my originium ore is going into hc batteries

[valid gazelle]

Amethyst ? That's for my LC battery farm

[river wadi]

ro what is that

[sterile stratus]

ig you good

is LC prod like that better than HC

[valid gazelle]

No im just min maxing my energy efficiency

[sterile stratus]

mhmm k

[sonic summit]

and we still dont have item that use this

[valid gazelle]

5470/5480

[sterile stratus]

lmao relatable

[valid gazelle]

Using HC battery will give you too much headroom which means you are wasting potential energy

So im using 1 HC and ... 27 LCs

[pulsar cypress]

Pee water soon..

[valid gazelle]

Some people call me a mad man

[sonic summit]

maybe it cryson bottle will be useful for acid wuling ?

[river wadi]

you can use some weird belt splitter shenanigans to use 100% of your power

[valid gazelle]

Oh you meant using the reserved power as well

[sterile stratus]

oh yeah... LC is 220

pretty gud

actually no bro

[valid gazelle]

So LC makes it easier to manage and you have a use for amethyst (most important)

[sterile stratus]

smh i can't

lc needs ori powd

[valid gazelle]

Just 24 buck caps A

[sterile stratus]

🥀

[sonic summit]

you just make dige FOR It

[valid gazelle]

Buck caps A sells for 70 and doesnt eat originium

Just go 24

[sterile stratus]

how 24

[sonic summit]

make another buck a lines

its 6 for a line

[valid gazelle]

I have 24 + 1 HC line

And some spare LC to sell

[sterile stratus]

yeah gimme some fer

hm i should give up on hc...

[valid gazelle]

Not really

[sterile stratus]

maybe i don't need 3 lines idk

[valid gazelle]

Fyi a full 36 LC doesnt provide enough

[sterile stratus]

ih 18 A+18HC /min rn

[valid gazelle]

You are around 100~300 short depending on your base

You have to have at least 1 HC line

[ruby sorrel]

wym I power my v4 with only lc

not that it really does anything

[sterile stratus]

well

[valid gazelle]

Wait no..

[sterile stratus]

i'll try trusting u and remove 1 HC line

[valid gazelle]

My math is wrong

[sterile stratus]

12/min now

[valid gazelle]

Wait wait dont take my word for it

Even i dont trust myself

[sterile stratus]

ok...

wtf

[valid gazelle]

Its just i find it more.. effective to use LC because amethyst is kinda useless..

With the extra power i switched HC to Buck caps A

So if its working for you then that's fine

Cuz.. you need a lot of restructuring

Extra space for additional buck caps production lines

[river wadi]

you need 5 lc battery lines to equal 1 hc

[valid gazelle]

Lots of LC production lines

[sterile stratus]

faah

[valid gazelle]

Lots of space for LC thermal banks

You need a lot of LC stuffs

You saw my construction in Power Plateau, all of that for just at the borderline of energy

5.47k/5.48k

[pulsar cypress]

[sterile stratus]

feels like i'm wasting 135w but idk...

[valid gazelle]

All of this for LC battery

[sterile stratus]

i see lol

yeah i better stick to ts...

[valid gazelle]

If it's working for you. Leave it be. - Software Engineers

[sterile stratus]

relatable lmao

sometimes the best thing is missing a ";" (cpp thing)

[reef crescent]

lol are you guys trying to make as many stashes as possible?

[sterile stratus]

5903/5865 ts might be good

idk lol

[valid gazelle]

Wdym those are thermal banks

[reef crescent]

oh nvm I see the set up now

[sterile stratus]

yea ts chat is ded so sad

gotta go for help idk

[hoary crag]

tbh the production chain teaches and helps you more in terms of making your own design

[tawny shadow]

5903? are you doing pwm for v4?

why bother just slap 6 full battery for v4

[hoary crag]

I often tell ppl to read production chain instead of doing the tutorials

unless if ur like me and want to suffer for that AIC sim medal

[valid gazelle]

There is an AIC sim medal ?

[hoary crag]

yup

[valid gazelle]

[hoary crag]

you get medals for doing AIC tutorials manually

you max it out at 20 manual completions iirc

but why not just manually complete everything?

[river wadi]

you also get oroberyls for the simulations

[hoary crag]

yeah but you don't have to do them manually for it

[river wadi]

wdym

[hoary crag]

they added it in 1.1

you could just mark the AIC tutorials as complete and you'll get the rewards

they plan to do the same for combat tutorials afaik

tho I forgot if it's for 1.2 or in future versions

tho at the end of the day

the pain of doing all of these manually is nothing compared to CC

so I was fine doing all of it lmao

[valid gazelle]

lol i used to hang a price tag for whoever clears r18 fastest and highest risk ( 1 monthly pass each) in my server and my server became a circus

[hoary crag]

imagine

[valid gazelle]

literally peeps fuming over 1 hit away from a monthly pass

[hoary crag]

tho ngl

I think there's a 50/50 chance on whether we'd get a full OST or not this CC

[valid gazelle]

operation blade intensifies

[hoary crag]

reason I think it's not is because this is also an experimental CC, which also doesn't have an actual OST in ak

[valid gazelle]

oooh you meant like the first cc in ak too

[hoary crag]

reason I do think is because this is the time CC makes its first impressions on mainstream gacha

it'd be wild if ok ak fans are hyping the OST and hg won't give it to us

[valid gazelle]

i wonder if.. we are gonna get RA

RA was fun

IS too..

i need IS

[hoary crag]

RA is just endfield at home

[valid gazelle]

ye but clearing the nodes and exploring beyond a big ass map is nice

[hoary crag]

I'd like IS too, but idk how they're going to port that over to endfield given it's 2d vs 3d

[valid gazelle]

its a rogue like game mode it is probably just slap in a bunch of stat changes for us and the enemies

[hoary crag]

you have no idea how much I lost my shit when CC was announced lmao

[unreal crater]

They had Algorithmic Memories in Beta, it was pretty good

[valid gazelle]

im so hyped for that too

[hoary crag]

I instantly realized it was CC since it's like the only event with that combination of visuals and audio

[valid gazelle]

Whoever doesnt have their medal trimmed after the first week gets boots from the server

[hoary crag]

they should have da pan on it but still with the guy's face edited on it

[valid gazelle]

man this was so long ago..

[hoary crag]

lmao

the CC channel in this server will be insane

[valid gazelle]

i should make thjat template again

looks funny af

[hoary crag]

a mix of dokutahs having their PTSD triggered and endmins being traumatized

[valid gazelle]

you know who we need ?

this guy

[hoary crag]

😭

[valid gazelle]

after 4 years man is still unyielding

[hoary crag]

[3] Unable to Perfect Dodge

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/6uVM.gif

[hoary crag]

mf about to be that bull from umbral

imagine if we also couldn't perfect dodge on that level

would be basically around risk 10-15 in og CC

[valid gazelle]

that angelloi in umbral

-50% stamina regen

jumps

[hoary crag]

lmao

imagine that uhh

worm being in CC

[valid gazelle]

no

fk that worm

even more so 3 of them

[hoary crag]

that umbral was wild

eyja had to solo the last worm

[valid gazelle]

me: dodges
my team:

[hoary crag]

finished with 30s left

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/9yurHsUhXj.gif

[hoary crag]

ngl for CC I would love for them to go all in with the tags

and also

pls no timer

and with the ridiculously bloated stats

the only chance of survival is for us to actually run and avoid lmao

AIC supply event is interesting, but I'd also like to see a delver version of it

[valid gazelle]

question tho.. the top tier materials. do i farm them in re crisis or crisis drills

which is better

[river wadi]

they have same sanity efficiency but crisis drills are faster

[valid gazelle]

same sanity efficiency ok

thankies

[ruby sorrel]

are you sure rhodagn is slower?

[crystal cypress]

So maybe im dumb, but did anyone else entirely skip Ferrium gearing units?

[valid gazelle]

sadly rhodagn doesnt have the mat i need

(for now)

i did ~

i think (?)

[river wadi]

depends if your a regular person or one that one shots bosses

[valid gazelle]

cuz factory was fast

really..

i still have to do another run

[sonic summit]

open the material box

[outer niche]

https://tenor.com/view/bangdream-bandori-panic-lost-anime-gif-18133087

[valid gazelle]

I used them all

[orchid pilot]

Yup, but it fills stupid fast if you make no buck/cit at all. I do a half half split between straight bottles and cit c, which gives me something like 20hrs to trade in bottles before they cap. Good enough for me

[tribal crescent]

I got some spare ferrium

my yazhen C is maxed

got 2 line of sc batt now

what do i do with the rest

[orchid pilot]

If you already filled up all the relevant ferrium derivatives, can switch to jincao c to avoid depot cap

[tribal crescent]

lol

jincao instead

[orchid pilot]

It's a gamble, of course, but I think it's likely to be allowed trade in next outpost, would be strange to be perma banished

But obv if you have depot space for refined ferrium or ferrium powder, fill those up with your excess first

[void owl]

how do i make sewage?

[valid gazelle]

refining "copium"

[void owl]

man i realy have a lot of copium for being able to make it without woring about a factory shut down when my depot is pull of cuprium parts and componets

[valid gazelle]

you should make yazhen A

gives your parts and bottles a reason

(to make Qingbo forever be in poverty)

[void owl]

donet they use the blue ore?

[valid gazelle]

no

that's yazhen c

[tribal crescent]

where's yazhen b

[void owl]

tbh i prefer jincao drink

i heate heal over time

[tribal crescent]

just do jincao infusion

[valid gazelle]

Jincao A not sellable

[void owl]

ah

[valid gazelle]

those arent meant for you

those are to sell

[void owl]

let me look up yanzen a BP

[valid gazelle]

also no matter how you hate yazhen has no limit

while jincao does have a limit

even tho that heal is basically a nuke

[void owl]

POV: you graduated to SC bats but have to make A cuz you for got abut trading

[tribal crescent]

wth

jazhen spray?

[void owl]

we need to use less cancer rock

[tribal crescent]

is this new?

damn

[tribal crescent]

MORE

MORE ORIGINIUM

ALL POWER COMES FROM ORIGINIUM

[valid gazelle]

no.. you know those orange yazhen you see in the wilds ? (thorny yazhen)

they are gold tier version

[tribal crescent]

i do

but uh

[valid gazelle]

you cant plant/seed those

[tribal crescent]

i thought jincao was the best

[icy garden]

I need to save this for the new update yes?

[tribal crescent]

nno no i made 1000 jincao infusion

[valid gazelle]

it speaks for itself

[tribal crescent]

i know what to do

lol

oh right i need to save for new version

shit ass game

[valid gazelle]

(5% + 412) * 6

you do the math, that is one big heal

[tribal crescent]

30% > 20%

well

on most op

[valid gazelle]

it is the strongest one so far

i think

[tribal crescent]

damn i gotta uproot my farm

it

it is so over

[valid gazelle]

but.. thorny yazhen and fluffed jincao are.. pickups only

like.. if you really want them you have to run around picking them up

[tribal crescent]

you can farm them

in the

farm

[valid gazelle]

that too

but my farm is planting ginseng

ginseng meatstew gives atk% and crit rate+

[tribal crescent]

where do i farm meat

[valid gazelle]

you dont

you hunt

[void owl]

yall farm?

[tribal crescent]

eh not using that many

tbh

[valid gazelle]

it speeds up my material grind

[void owl]

i really wnat to be ablle to toss them into a seed picking + seeder to get infinite

[tribal crescent]

is it that fast

[valid gazelle]

is killing rhodagn in less than 30s fast ?

:>

[tribal crescent]

wtf

he farms rhodamn

is it better than the specific ones

[valid gazelle]

its the same sanity efficiency as someone mentioned above

rhodagn is special case cuz he doesnt have 3 phases

imo its just better to farm in crisis drills

[tribal crescent]

no like

the uh

material specific

[valid gazelle]

hmm ?

its the same

[tribal crescent]

[valid gazelle]

it is specific

[tribal crescent]

y farm in crisis drill then

[valid gazelle]

like i said... if you dont have a team that can nuke him fast, just farm in crisis drills

like.. im talking action perfect

[tribal crescent]

hm

[valid gazelle]

besides crisis gives you full ultimate from the start

why not

[orchid pilot]

GOOD QUESTION
Sincerely, my prestocked 80k of both flowers in steel bottles weeping at 1.1

[valid gazelle]

just nuke em

[orchid pilot]

Yes, but I think you're over where you need to be?
Click the question mark button to see how long until the stock bills fill up, and make sure that aligns with the end of maintenance (or the first time you're able to login post maintenance).

Maintenance scheduled to end roughly 04:00 UTC on Friday, so 45~46h from this post

[valid gazelle]

the chart looks like this.. i should be good, right ?

i have 24 batteries.. and production is .. 36 / 1.5 = 24 per 40s

oh just right

damn 100% LC usage

[ruby sorrel]

but 26 banks?

[valid gazelle]

for symmetry

:>

the 2 on top left is turned off

[fervent lodge]

this is a waterwheel

you pour a stream of batteries onto the paddles and some of it flows back down

[valid gazelle]

its like those oil hourglass

[shell hinge]

Interesting

[valid gazelle]

these

[shell hinge]

The new sewage reprocessing is in test area right?

[valid gazelle]

[fervent lodge]

we don't know, but allegedly

[shell hinge]

Test area is being released mid patch. Only marker stone is coming on release

[fervent lodge]

yeah

[shell hinge]

Interesting, interesting

[void owl]

HOW DO I MAKE JINCAO INFUSION

[shell hinge]

I guess I'll build my 1.2 base with the assumption that we'll get 2/s of extra xircon effluent

All my stuff is designed to handle any flow rate so I should be able to plug in the reprocessing when it arrives

[valid gazelle]

what is.. jincao infusion

oooh

you need fluffed jincao

the yellow flower

and then you manually craft them

[wispy grove]

Pretty much

[marble yarrow]

no way

[void owl]

no way what?

also why are ypu making the C stuff

[tribal crescent]

bro is too bored

lol

[pulsar cypress]

When everything else already 80k..
Anything that not yet 80k is worth making..

[hidden temple]

making the C stuff is typical, the B is more out of the norm lol

[late zodiac]

Do the numbers work out where you can have a closed system that reuses all your sewage without treating it?

and without continuously processing cuprium?

[ruby sorrel]

sure, just don't make more sewage than you can use

no that's impossible

[cyan forge]

[late zodiac]

So I need to actually start producing cuprium components in order to keep making xircon

[cyan forge]

to use up amethyst

[orchid pilot]

Once we hit 1.2, if the recipe for inert purification is correct as was shown in the video, then you could do it for battery production only. But iirc hetonite production is shown with sewage out at the end

And not sure why you're asking, since you wouldn't want to shut off your cuprium supply anyway

[orchid pilot]

You can do yazhen a instead

Which also doesn't divert xiranite from battery lines

[late zodiac]

Don't have time to redo my full factory tonight, trying to take it one step at a time without making any catastrophic clogs

[orchid pilot]

In any case you could only set that up 2 days later... The do-now recommendation is set up your yazhen A

Not that complex - we get exactly the correct amount needed

[late zodiac]

makes sense, I hadn't looked at that formula

[orchid pilot]

4 lines cupr go to 2 lines of fitting and one line (two feeds into single) moulding

[cobalt oriole]

Finally sat down and made a 24/min citrome c setup

Took only 30mins and barely had to shift anything

Now the sub-6.7k power 18/18/24 is complete

[orchid pilot]

That's a ton of power... Are you like... Constantly powering full barbecue setup at every alluvium or something?

I guess it's v4 so it doesn't matter anyway

[cobalt oriole]

I’m running a lot of sub products

And I don’t really turn my optional production pathways off

[hidden temple]

might as well swap the seeds to do 12 buck A and 6 citrome A as well
so you can leave buck A and HC at the same amounts after selling, since they’ll both be at ~12/min yield cuz of HC usage

[willow beacon]

does the upgraded fusion crucible simpify xircon production

i remember running into issues with capacity

are those solved or is it still fucked

[hoary crag]

it can bring xircon line from 5 reactors down to 4 by merging a liquid xiranite reactor with the xircon one but that's pretty much it

will it save space? yes
will it save power? depends on the new reactor's power usage

also what capacity issue are we talking about?

[marble yarrow]

maybe from 5 to 2

[willow beacon]

ngl been so long since i set up i forgot, i think it was something like the inert xircon clogging a space i needed to craft something else

[hoary crag]

I don't think it can be brought down to 2 tho since we're still pretty much limited by the pipe ports

[shrewd knoll]

use shared pipes, and hope it doesnt break

[marble yarrow]

plus this concept

[willow beacon]

it can do that?

[marble yarrow]

as long as this happens

[willow beacon]

interesting

doubtful but interesting

[marble yarrow]

requirement #1 is cope, #2 is kinda 80% sure

[fervent lodge]

2 inert to 1 real makes sense in terms of energy preservation or something

but idk

[cyan forge]

Anyone got discord time countdown til 1.2?

[subtle finch]

how is it a cope? i thought that's the entire purpose of expanded crucible

[brittle acorn]

What do you do when it gets clogged?

[marble yarrow]

1.2 maintenance starts <t:1776376800:R>, ends in <t:1776398400:R>

[subtle finch]

it wont clog if you trust the numbers
i mean it can clog with materials, but it would still output at the expected rate

[marble yarrow]

wait, true, i found the word!!

[subtle finch]

the clogging issue we had back then is lack of space for the output to be produced, this one have enough

[fervent lodge]

inb4 the new recipe produces 2 products

[subtle finch]

where'd they get that "two reaction" description

[valid gazelle]

Dont mind me just passing the copium ore through it : 🗿

[marble yarrow]

its the aic tech tree

currently we have

[subtle finch]

that kinda defeats the point since current crucible can already do two recipe

[marble yarrow]

no

its the current

what we have

[subtle finch]

oh, mb

[marble yarrow]

there

[wispy grove]

So it means every crucible we gonna use are expanded?

Its not 2 types of crucible?

[cyan forge]

thx

[sick basin]

Its under new facilities
So should be seperate

Not an upgrade to existing

[wispy grove]

Oh okay that's good

[shrewd sigil]

i lack too much wuling credits how can i farm some credits without my power output going above 500

[subtle finch]

upgrade these first
stock redistribution
depot node
environmental monitoring

[pulsar cypress]

Reduce energy consumption..

[subtle finch]

sell elastic goods

[shrewd sigil]

im so broke i cant do. that

[lament obsidian]

environment monitor is 200k per 2days, you can do 3 delivery from other guys who lazy, tho its fishing for wuling delivery, ~70k/ delivery

[shrewd sigil]

i dont get any wuling deliveries

[subtle finch]

keep refreshing

those are the one that will give the fastest return on investment

[pulsar cypress]

Scroll to most bottom and keep refreshing.
It will appear around most bottom.
Pick big one like 72k/79k.

[subtle finch]

compare to upgrading your aic and busses, you will need bps, all mineral nodes fully upgraded and active. it will take more effort to get it to produce good profit

[shrewd sigil]

oh ohhhhhhhhh

so they are at bottom they appeared after 3rd refresh

[lament obsidian]

its sorted by money descending, so its around the bottom

[pulsar cypress]

Im kinda concern with ur power consumption also, imo it can be reduced to below 3.4k to minimize battery consumption. Saving more to sell slowly.

[shrewd sigil]

my power consumption to resource acquiring rate is so shiiiit.im kinda tired of doing pipelines for extraction ykwim

[subtle finch]

they dont want to even go above 500, im guessing they're not producing the right thing yet

[lament obsidian]

mine is under 3.4k while max battery and syringe production

[subtle finch]

xiranite, then lc wuling

you need to step into middle tier for a bit to get to endgame profit

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)/*pats
Just progress slowly bit by bit..

[valid gazelle]

Wait what

There are jobs transferred in Wuling ?

[lament obsidian]

yes? at least mine daily, i dont do delivery anymore myself

[valid gazelle]

damn its so rare that i havent seen even one ever since i started wuling

[fervent lodge]

you just have to keep refreshing and scrolling down

[valid gazelle]

still nth..

[keen river]

they are rare coz people tend to fuck them up and this screws your account

so nobody transfers them

[valid gazelle]

well its only an extra 75k per delivery

damn those people are unlucky

Vi3 Logistics

i think the only time i screwed someone up was when i was so sleepy i didnt realize i was delivering

[valid gazelle]

i still dont see the reason behind this tho..

[viscid plover]

[lament obsidian]

screw account...lol, over a million wuling credit daily, losing a couple thousands... i dont know

[jovial breach]

i wonder if there's a better way to do this...

[fervent lodge]

connect them so you have one point of loading it in

if you don't you can just put them next to each other and then delete at once to reclaim

[jovial breach]

yes i havent put belts

those are empty

[ashen ferry]

Behold

[jovial breach]

oh i can just throw them out of the wild

lmao

[viscid plover]

💀

[hallow garden]

Is there a better pattern than this?

[marble yarrow]

💵 ⏰ Outpost Bill saving for Jingyu Level 4

to achieve maximum bill exactly right after maintenance end
Current Bill numbers as of (<t:1776248781:t>):
Max Bills you should be having right now (sell excess): 1,091,839
Bills to be generated until maintenance ends: 1,508,161

[keen river]

that may be true now but it wasnt really back in 1.0 and there was always a lot of rage everywhere when people shared the job and then got like 10k back coz someone completely messed the deliery

heck there were even calls to add some sort of reputation ranking to this system

idc, i assume that if i transfer the job its efficiently gone and worth 0

[valid gazelle]

it serves.. no purpose..

[keen river]

but it just explains why you dont see a lot of wuling jobs in general

[young igloo]

there is only 1 daily per player provided yet you can do thrice a day

also theres ppl dont like to transfer it too

[valid gazelle]

tbh there is no punishment in griefing

[young igloo]

i just transfer to share it with the community

[fervent lodge]

for originum? it's pretty much the

you can get rid of these 2 belts tho

[keen river]

well, you dont really need the third splitter, you can do something like

[fervent lodge]

that will only work if you wait the beginning one to overflow to 50

which will take roughly 2 minutes

[keen river]

which will happen in what, 3 minutes?

yeah

[hallow garden]

Ok, thanks bro

[cold oxide]

whats the formula to efficiently use batteries for power

[storm garnet]

Expanded crucible has 3 digits for energy...

[silent violet]

pretty sure this setup is more space efficient than the normal stash hoarding setup if anyone wants to try to recreate

[storm garnet]

https://x.com/i/status/2044370148023550108

Arknights: Endfield (@AKEndfield)

//AIC Factory Update Notes//

Endministrator, while you were exploring Talos-II, the AIC Factory has undergone several upgrades.

To help you quickly get familiar with the new natural resource, facilities, and production lines, we have prepared the following update notes.

X · Apr 15, 2026, 11:00 AM

[viscid plover]

ye...x2 power usage for +2 slot idk about that chief

[silent violet]

idk if fac count will come into play tho

[valid fox]

This talking about crucible?

[viscid plover]

ye

[fervent lodge]

in ideal conditions it replaces 3 forges, so

[young igloo]

i dont understand but nice art

[viscid plover]

yea there will be optimal use case of coourse

[young igloo]

dont go into politice

[valid fox]

Yeah being able to use a produced material right away to produce something else further in the production chain in the same crucible will be 👌

[sick basin]

Oh so we are getting 12 forges this patch

Thats funky

[young igloo]

8?

[viscid plover]

not yet

8 first 12 later

[valid fox]

8 at patch start and then 12, 4 weeks later

Patch will be 7 weeks long

[young igloo]

fair

[viscid plover]

35 days

[sick basin]

I kmow not on day 1
But still this patch

[valid fox]

Look at the version calendar

[viscid plover]

if you have a point to make just say it

[valid fox]

The version calendar shows a 7 week patch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF3aBo7aUAAWXud.jpg?name=orig

Look at the 2nd sanity supply event

Start date

[sick basin]

7th june is end of 1.2 yes

[valid fox]

5th of June

[sick basin]

52 days long

Oh 5th, forgot
But ye

Im literaly graduating a week later

Crazy

[valid fox]

Grats

[hidden temple]

been using the base pattern of this one #aic-factory message ever since I seen it on here

[jovial breach]

Hmm so conduits can do 2 liquid types now

[silent violet]

that one is a lot simpler than the shit i been cooking

same efficiency but simpler to understand

[viscid plover]

i just put them down individually because i had to put them outside of pac

[ruby sorrel]

are we reduced to exploring tiling efficiency of protocol stashes now

[jovial breach]

Mindustry moment

[silent violet]

ig this one has less facilities

by like 10%

not sure if that ever becomes an issue

any hoarders got info on if its space or fac count thats the issue when stashmaxxing

[ruby sorrel]

aw hell new comps gonna take more xira?

[dreamy jungle]

Called it, 12 forges when new area unlocks in may

[viscid plover]

it's an issue for some of us

[ruby sorrel]

hopefully none of them are good artifice fodder

[viscid plover]

im wondering what else heavy xira can do now

[ruby sorrel]

super relays pls

"heavy xiranite relay"

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
i had that same idea

[viscid plover]

120 range

[silent violet]

u hoarding rn?

[subtle finch]

yeah

[silent violet]

is it limited by fac count or space

[subtle finch]

fac count for sure

[silent violet]

if its fac count then splitter/converger slightly better ig

but theres no point in using that super space efficient layout if its fac count limited

[viscid plover]

your statement is confusing ngl

[silent violet]

theres probably a slightly less compact layout that minimises for facilities using different placements

[distant bear]

Shouldn't be unless there's new redeemer parts

[sleek needle]

Might need help on this

[silent violet]

actually i think that design is theoretical minimum facilities

since every stash has to have 1 in and 1 out

[ruby sorrel]

yeah cuprium gear eating 2x the bills already sucks

[silent violet]

and that has minimium facilities using all 4 inputs for each converger/splitter

[sleek needle]

might be poor design. I feel like I couldn't balance the production and usage of materials

[silent violet]

how so?

[upper fiber]

too many belts

[worn creek]

Too many green grass

[ruby sorrel]

is that refining ferrium and then depoting it 50 tiles away so you can unload it in the other corner lmao

[subtle finch]

start over

[sleek needle]

Probably better

[wispy grove]

i thought its 12 forgess at 1.3

[jovial breach]

Do all subpac have the same size?

[hidden temple]

unloading buckflower into seeder -> planter -> seeder -> planter ->buckflower into stash
is super amusing

[dreamy jungle]

Nah had a feeling 1.2 patch

[wispy grove]

ITS 1 :1

[upper fiber]

so far they are

[wispy grove]

1 xira +1 eff

[valid fox]

It doesn't mention any numbers

[sleek needle]

well, it did help as it was zero at one point

[valid fox]

But it might be

[sleek needle]

wasn't what I want as those machines take up a lot of space

[wispy grove]

[sleek needle]

that setup was copium

[valid fox]

If it's 1 to 1 we can do 4 xiranite forges into 4 heavy xiranite forges.

[raven tulip]

You are trying to route everything back to your AIC, but you really don't have to. There's a facility you can use to deposit your items into

[ruby sorrel]

sure we can believe they trolled us in the vid

[wispy grove]

uhh no? you need xira for sc battery

[valid fox]

If it's 2 to 1, then we're doing 4 xiranite forges into 2 heavy xiranite forges and then we have 2 xiranite forges excess

[jovial breach]

6 to 6 no?

[viscid plover]

how is it better to use splitter/converger when facility count is an issue?

[ruby sorrel]

no there's the next step in production for that

literally no reason to stash ferrium while making steel

[valid fox]

I'm talking first rendition of the patch, where it's 8 max

[silent violet]

cause you use less facilites

[dense blade]

but the effluent

so just two until test area

[ruby sorrel]

they never show ratios in recipe chain anyways

[subtle finch]

ive been preparing a new layout for the new outpost, wanna see how much xiranite forge you can fit in it @dreamy jungle ?
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=q8F1r0d2z7W5T6

[dense blade]

then maybe 5

[sleek needle]

u mean protocol stash?

[valid fox]

yeah you make a point

We need the number first

[raven tulip]

Yes

Good luck

[viscid plover]

less than...not using? sorry i must be missing some context here

[dense blade]

this game needs leaks

lwk

[sleek needle]

I started using it back not that long ago. I didn't use it for quite some time alr

[dreamy jungle]

How many do you want?

[silent violet]

were comparing designs
#aic-factory message
#aic-factory message

using splitter/converger uses less facilities so you can put more stashes = more storage capacity

[wispy grove]

what do they mean by special facility repairs?

[subtle finch]

it needs 5 to be self sufficient, but i dont think it's possible

[sleek needle]

I wanna know: How to make the purple battery more efficienctly?

[ruby sorrel]

maybe it's what those sewage recycler they showed off needs

[sleek needle]

The blue ones is easy but the purple is really slow

[pulsar cypress]

Factory invasion and destruction.. °-°)

[dense blade]

probably quest stuff on the map

[subtle finch]

maybe that's what they mean by upgrading the treatment facility

[ruby sorrel]

it'll be funny if they make heavier xiranite next next patch

[subtle finch]

we'll pay with heavy xiranite to upgrade it

[ruby sorrel]

and that's the important role they mean

[wispy grove]

to heaviest xiranite for HC wuling

3k energy

[ruby sorrel]

wym 3k we're alr on 3.2k

[vast iron]

6.4k

[ruby sorrel]

should be looking at 4-6k

[wispy grove]

oh right, its 6k

[vast iron]

Trust

[wispy grove]

or 8k

[pulsar cypress]

*acid liquid reduce facility efficiency..
Need to use it to return to max efficiency.. °-°)

[wispy grove]

f it 10k

[ruby sorrel]

it's probs power/xira stays the same

[wispy grove]

uses heavier xircon eff + heavy xira

[viscid plover]

hmmm im testing it out but from what i can see im limited by facility count when i add more splitter/converger but i can keep adding belt
so how is splitter/converger using less than belt in this case?

[silent violet]

1 belt = 1 fac count no matter length

converger/splitter = 1 fac count

[ruby sorrel]

belts are counted per continguous section or sth

[viscid plover]

oooo i see, thanks

[dreamy jungle]

Do the depot bus sections have to be inside aic?

[vast iron]

Liquid heavy xircon(hetonite bottle) + 25 dense originium

[subtle finch]

i think?

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc it do goes red if a part of it out of the border.

[vast iron]

Yes

[dreamy jungle]

I see never tried

[wispy grove]

its true, its 2 xira +1 xircon eff so expecnive

[dense blade]

where was this confirmed

if you know

[wispy grove]

my eyes

[dense blade]

[dense blade]

o damn

the math makes sense ig

[jovial breach]

so it's gonna be 8 xira into 4 fat xira

[dense blade]

4 each so we get 2

[silent violet]

didnt one of the screenshots have a heavy forge putting out 2 lines

[dense blade]

then it becomes 3 each bc effluent becomes free and we get 4

[silent violet]

or did i hallucinate that

[dense blade]

2 fat

fat is expensive

wait

[wispy grove]

this is bugging me alot, its like the production is 1 heavy xira +1 hetonite comp

[dense blade]

the xira is 2:1 but the forge is 4:1

[marble yarrow]

what even is a heavy forge 😭

[dense blade]

then when test area comes out its 3:1

[silent violet]

heavy xira forge

forge -> making heavy xira

[dense blade]

hetonium is so expensive tho

components rather

[marble yarrow]

the forge never had an output for pipe tho, unless its a future unlockable thing

[wispy grove]

we only have 8 forges
we can make 2 heavy xira productions
or 4 xira and 1 heavy xira productions

[jovial breach]

we can get 12 no?

[silent violet]

not this update

[valid fox]

It did always have a pipe input

[dense blade]

not until later

[wispy grove]

yeah but thats on May 14

[jovial breach]

[valid fox]

Look at it

[dense blade]

this patch is two parts

you can say

[dense blade]

maybe expect near quadruple the income by the end

[valid fox]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF3aBo7aUAAWXud.jpg?name=orig

[jovial breach]

oh shit i thought we getting 2 new areas at the same time

[valid fox]

Everything here more or less in terms of dates

[dense blade]

wish we did

[marble yarrow]

free xircon effluent delayed buh

[wispy grove]

pretty much

[keen river]

second map is 14th may, need to wait a bit

[ruby sorrel]

finally factory update mid-patch

[wispy grove]

i think we gonna need space on main aic the moment the new area comes out

[viscid plover]

so i just put this to the test but i can still add more new belts but can't add more converger after removing some belts
why is that?

[marble yarrow]

just stock up your xircon effluent now

[dreamy jungle]

This confused me

[dense blade]

what

lwk fill that 40k pool with it

[marble yarrow]

💀

[dense blade]

80 fluid tanks saved

[ruby sorrel]

oh yeah belt limit is sth like 1k

if you spam belt sections

[silent violet]

wait belt limit is different from normal fac limit?

[ruby sorrel]

I saw it on twitter somewhere idr

[marble yarrow]

wee

[ruby sorrel]

try copypasting a bunch of 1 belt pieces for science

[keen river]

never saw the belt limit

but the facility limit is pretty oppressive

[ruby sorrel]

belt limit the only reasonable(?) limit

[dense blade]

tf

[viscid plover]

i never hit belt limit before either so i didn't even know that existed

[jovial breach]

same

never hit that

[viscid plover]

but facility limit is definitely a thing

[keen river]

i have a lot of belts in valley 4 aic so it must be super high

like few thousands +

[marble yarrow]

aight gonna get that 58k

[silent violet]

i thought belts shared fac count with normal facs

[keen river]

no

[wispy grove]

they used a converger on the left side

[ruby sorrel]

nah you'd have to have 1k chopped up belts

[keen river]

belts are pretty much free

[ruby sorrel]

that's just not happening in normal play

[keen river]

but stuff like belt bridges count toward the limit

[ruby sorrel]

since you'd run out of fac limit first

[silent violet]

huh weird

[viscid plover]

so belt route is definitely better then
using convergers just used up more facility slot

[keen river]

512 in wuling, 256 in outposts, 765 in valley 4

[wispy grove]

oh nvm they just put it beside each other

[silent violet]

i swear i tested that ages ago when i first had fac count issue

[wispy grove]

thats why its 2

[viscid plover]

i hit limit plenty of time on facility count so i was so confused by your statement lol

totally opposite of my experince

[dreamy jungle]

Ah, man they should just show a clean factory

[wispy grove]

they clogged the comp facility on purpose

[vast iron]

Thats weird

[vast iron]

i mean did they really identify the quantities?

im still a bit sus

[marble yarrow]

converger highway

[wispy grove]

bro weve been watching how facilites work for 2 months already. we can tell how much goes in and out of each facility

[vast iron]

i have smt like this xd

[vast iron]

i didnt really watch the vids too closely xd

[ruby sorrel]

you think they'll give us full 30/min comp output from 1 gearing lol

clearly it was for showcasing

[keen river]

i guess the valley4's hub repair mechanic returns to wuling

[wispy grove]

the delay in the heavy xiranite products makes me think its 5: 1 ratio

[silent violet]

wait im literally right?

is it different in wuling or something