aic-factory

[valid gazelle]

Dammit im at work i cant fix that

[valid gazelle]

Ugh... Why can't they just give us more ferrium ores

Mother of god... Wtf

[olive basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1479262096758673649/1493367652511514796/20260413_174919.webp?ex=69df5f41&is=69de0dc1&hm=cb01d2bebcba3c1f563ad97802ad8ac9739c218d52d4630dd598484f0d3d598f&

[dull shard]

that is certainly a storage unit

[orchid pilot]

I love all our pre-patch squirreling

[valid gazelle]

If i were Ruan Yi i'd hold that storage hostage and black mail you

[pulsar cypress]

Best factory blueprint.. °-°)b

[valid gazelle]

Instead of falling into dark magic shjts

Free leverage

💀

I wonder if in the future we get oil

[orchid pilot]

sorry for potato quality screenshot but I ended up having to throw mine in the wild

[ruby sorrel]

what if your stashes explode while depot is full

[olive basalt]

Bro wtf

[wispy grove]

whats the cap of stockbills?

[valid gazelle]

9

[orchid pilot]

cap doesn't matter since we're in the same week as patch

[valid gazelle]

What matters is you stockpiling your products

[orchid pilot]

with several buildings to lv4, i'm sure it'll eat up plenty of bills

[subtle finch]

next patch, hoarding in expanded crucible will be the meta

[wispy grove]

2.6m

[zenith kiln]

Wth

[wispy grove]

yall ready to post bps within 6 hrs?

[small creek]

2 more minutes for Hikarin base screenshot

[dull shard]

OK DID THE MATH, I can fit 4 more forges but IDK what new stuff the expansion will need so that's to be found out

[dense blade]

holy peak

[small creek]

Wow rare net appearance

[dense blade]

hi

[valid gazelle]

We are getting a new subpac so no worries

[small creek]

hello

[dull shard]

aware but I wanna see if I can squish it all to main

[orchid pilot]

likely to be either 7 forges running xiranite and 1 converting to heavy, or 6/2 split

[ruby sorrel]

you're probs near fac cap in main anyways

doesn't matter if you have room

[orchid pilot]

^

[dull shard]

let me test that with splitters

[orchid pilot]

hence, just throw fruit's 7 in outpost, set and forget

[small creek]

where is the bp screenshot 🥀

I cant live on like this

[orchid pilot]

visible facility count when

[dull shard]

I can put this many [46] more structures

[orchid pilot]

that's probably what, two forge lines max?

[dense blade]

we need a facility cap increase to 768

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[dull shard]

idk how that works out so we'll see.

[orchid pilot]

the fac cap is really punishing

[valid gazelle]

It is

[dense blade]

I can’t make computers in endfield if I’m getting logistics capped

[valid gazelle]

"oh there is space maybe I can.."
Limit: Can you don't

[dull shard]

any lenght of coveror from x to y is 1 entity, yeah?

[subtle finch]

here, enjoy my 10 item alternator

[upper fiber]

'devs : we give you subpac for what'

[dense blade]

even those cap out

if you’re messing around

[upper fiber]

keyword

[valid gazelle]

Those are small..

[ruby sorrel]

well if we use them "as intended" np right?

[valid gazelle]

Just putting down the depot bus can already make you feel cramped

[dull shard]

I will have to give these up probably.

[ruby sorrel]

ehh plenty of space if you don't cram

[orchid pilot]

belt does not count as part of facility iirc, you can test by adding belts to your 46 logistics there

[valid gazelle]

Belts and pipes dont count iirc...

But everything else does

[orchid pilot]

but yes, any avoidable bridges are just upping your fac count

[dense blade]

that looks like it can be smaller

[upper fiber]

only belt facilities did that, pipe facilities not counted in the limit

[dull shard]

oh yeah the lines themselves are good. the bridges/splitters can't be avoided so they will be my hard capper

[orchid pilot]

back to bendy corners instead of staircase-bridged corners :(

[dense blade]

o really

[orchid pilot]

OH

[dull shard]

please do toss suggest. I have a few of these.

[upper fiber]

pipes have their own limit

[orchid pilot]

no wonder harunachan isn't out of fac count

I was wondering with the transcontinental piping lmao

[tall tangle]

imo, if you dont do stash madness, you should never have limit problem

[dense blade]

wait what is this for

[dull shard]

1/12 splitter. 11 of whatever goes in [xiranite] goes to the main line, 1 of the 12 goes to the other line for components.

[ruby sorrel]

pipe logistics have a separate 128 limit

[dense blade]

1/12 of a single line?

[dull shard]

yeah

[dense blade]

and how many of these

do you have

[valid gazelle]

[dense blade]

you’re like making

[sterile stratus]

this one is 1/12 right

[dense blade]

.125 components/min

[dull shard]

it would clog.

[sterile stratus]

the output is left

mhm

[dull shard]

need a space between splitter and converger

[dull shard]

yes. trickle by design

[dense blade]

yes

uh interesting

if that’s the case then 5 logistics is the minimum

[sterile stratus]

what about this

[dense blade]

why is it looping

[sterile stratus]

should be 0.5 unit/s

[dull shard]

yes

[sterile stratus]

nah i should stop slacking and make some parts

[dull shard]

made a lot @_@

[sterile stratus]

is this enough tho

[dull shard]

initially we were relying on an on and off switch for the weekly components BUT the first time we did it and turned it on, it clogged everything up to kingdom come it wasn't nice.

[dense blade]

uh

[dull shard]

so now we opted for a trickle setup with lterally zero mamagement required.

[dense blade]

it looks like

if you change anything the factory just explodes

[tall tangle]

need more red probably. depends on current progress

[dull shard]

yeah. it's pretty fun

[dense blade]

[sterile stratus]

yeah...

[ruby sorrel]

just don't change anything, why would you keep changing ratios anyways

[dull shard]

in this case, literally sewage clog and to balance out production.

[dense blade]

I’ve only got one of those 1/12 splitters in mine

for yazhen c

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1482548860655243566/1483029793615118416/IMG_2660.png?ex=69df5620&is=69de04a0&hm=430ca7d3a920e99acc3e7262c1aafa1399d5cf3a0273f83cd7305c028eb7870c&

[dull shard]

my friend somehow got it with no clogging issues so IDK how he did it. this was the approach I went iwth. end result's pretty good.

[dense blade]

clogging as in sewage?

[dull shard]

yeah.

[sterile stratus]

is this 2.5/min

[dull shard]

as you said earlier, if I touch something, factory explodes. it does happen

[dense blade]

yea because literally everything is set to 1/12 split

[sterile stratus]

the input rate, not prod rate

[dull shard]

naw because if I don't split some pieces, they clog.

[dense blade]

if you change one part you gotta change the other

[dull shard]

sewage needs to keep going, and so does xiranite. if I slow down a portion of the xiranite, which I did, I have to slow down the sewage.

[dull shard]

how do you guys take shots like these? literal frankenstein?

[dense blade]

yea

[dull shard]

guh

[grim gale]

does anyone know a blueprint for this? i want to use the blueprints from #1461542035617091681 channel but most of them are like fully upgraded AIC area. i probably can wait and collect stock bill but it would take really long time cause i only sell origocrust, amethyst part, ferrium part, and lc battery

[dense blade]

you could use the in-game given blueprints

they’re not great but do the job

[dense blade]

are we talking about components

[sterile stratus]

components should be 0.25/min right

[dense blade]

yes

[sterile stratus]

thanks

[dense blade]

[small creek]

oh hell nah

[dense blade]

you can lwk make slide show images out of that

[subtle finch]

this is all you need to avoid sewage from clogging

[small creek]

#1466134191434367264

[grim gale]

thank you, i actually just found this from scrolling through

[dense blade]

w self- advertisement

[sick basin]

Shameless plug

Babe

[pulsar cypress]

Its kinda hard to do coz it really depends on ur lvl and the ore supplies you have currently from the mining rig.

Can search bp separately, like battery bp, buck A bp, etc.
Then you place them one by one adjusting to ur current ore supplies and energy owned..

[small creek]

I didnt mean to plug i just wanna help 😭

[sterile stratus]

they prioritize the path without splitter?

[dense blade]

uh that’s 1/16

[dull shard]

stitch

[dense blade]

[subtle finch]

if destination overflows, it will all go to that treatment unit, so its not exactly 1/16 all the time

[dense blade]

oh right priority flow

[sterile stratus]

15/16 output, 1/16 get into treatment

right?

[subtle finch]

say you are using 1/6 or 1/12 of your xiranite for component

then only 5/6 or 11/12 of sewage is consumed, the remaining will go to that treatment unit side

[dense blade]

goofy game logistic mechanics

[dull shard]

I still essentially need to make two of those

[sterile stratus]

mhm

component gives sewage?

oh wait

yeah i get it

[subtle finch]

they want sewage/cuprium and xiranite to keep going at full speed

[dense blade]

has anyone here made a calculator yet

[subtle finch]

depending on your layout, you can make do with only one of it

[vast iron]

not hard

[dense blade]

division tho

[vast iron]

addition is free, multiplication is probably not bad if you decode it

[sterile stratus]

calc for what bro

[vast iron]

You can make basically every kind of logic gate

sooo

[sterile stratus]

i believe there's already a splitter calc

[vast iron]

just put them together and boom

[dense blade]

it’s not even making it that’s hard, it’s fitting it

outposts aren’t big enough

[vast iron]

calculator

[unreal laurel]

i heard there are 3 new operators that arent part of nxt patch banner

[dense blade]

main pac has facility cap issues

[dense blade]

uh

[sterile stratus]

"today we're playing doom in akef"

[dense blade]

zero sanity behavior

[fervent lodge]

considering a splitter is a stateful latch, the moment you place a splitter you get 1 bit of memory for free

[subtle finch]

there's no point unless it can do 7 segment display

[unreal laurel]

this true?

[fervent lodge]

a calculator is trivial from there on

[subtle finch]

we're not robots, who tf counts in binary

[sterile stratus]

tru

[vast iron]

make a binary converter ig

Computers work in binary why shouldnt we

displays would be weird cuz we dont really have 3d tho

[subtle finch]

cause were not computers

[dense blade]

might tear down valley one day and have a full attempt

[unreal laurel]

cause we better than computer

[vast iron]

tho would be weird to read it, no?

[dense blade]

space and facility cap’s is the only issue

[subtle finch]

easiest way to do it is with is planters and seeders
your answer comes in the form of item count

[unreal laurel]

halo

[vast iron]

i mean, reading splitter states

[unreal laurel]

is it just me or does that first operator kinda resemble lifeng?

[sick basin]

Why bring it here bruh

[sterile stratus]

lol yeah that's what i thought, although go somewhere else

[sick basin]

Do u have nothing better to do
Go ask #endfield

[dense blade]

3 playable factories

[unreal laurel]

cause ppl here usually not as toxic and actually answer questions

[sterile stratus]

chill vro

[sick basin]

Sure, she has similiar color pallate
Happy?

[sterile stratus]

not everyone is a moving AIC

[sick basin]

[dense blade]

uh what are we talking about now

[sterile stratus]

hm idk

[subtle finch]

clankers

[sterile stratus]

maybe make art of them in AIC idk

insanity behavior

[unreal laurel]

im not gonna accept your answer cause you already gave me a bad impression and it clearly looks like youre just trying to get me to leave

[fervent lodge]

it's a primitive adder, why would it be weird to read
just count ones and zeroes

[vast iron]

oh i was thinking more of for info storage

[sterile stratus]

bro this is #aic-factory 😭

[unreal laurel]

im aware

[fervent lodge]

You're simply in the wrong channel topic-wise, that's all

[unreal laurel]

a lil off topic never hurt no one

[vast iron]

it will hurt you soon

[fervent lodge]

also my answer is "maybe"

[unreal laurel]

only if the chat is full of grumpy ppl

[vast iron]

:3

[sterile stratus]

D:

[unreal laurel]

( ｰ̀εｰ́ )

[fervent lodge]

well info storage is still binary!

thing is, you can't decode binary in this game for now

[vast iron]

[fervent lodge]

i guess in theory a certain item can represent a decimal digit?

[sick basin]

Im sure #endfield is full of haply people that will entertain your questions!

[fervent lodge]

it wouldn't scale at all tho

[unreal laurel]

how is this binary talk any better

its barely on topic

[sterile stratus]

that should be nice lol

[fervent lodge]

we're literally discussing factory mechanics

lmfao

[small totem]

Do you guys think i should make a 8 Forge Xiranite factory already, tbh, i don't think we will need 240/min XIranite, but instead those forge are for something else (idk if there's some notes out for the new factory already)
I just don't wanna pre-make the factory, only for it to be not useful in next patch.
i mean, i can also just not make it rn and wait, but i also wanna be ready with blueprint beforehand like this with way better top view (from enka i mean)

[unreal laurel]

when was binary in the factory.....

[sterile stratus]

gotta get into the storage and look

[fervent lodge]

right from the start

splitter is a 1-bit latch

[vast iron]

no since some forges will be used for heavy

[sterile stratus]

yk we can have trinary i believe

[sick basin]

We'll need to use 3 forges for heavy xiranite

[unreal laurel]

if you meant power modulation,does it count as binary if we have the option to split a 3

[vast iron]

depends how useful hesvy is tho

[sterile stratus]

depends on how you use it

[vast iron]

might be useless for all we know

[small totem]

Welp, then i should stop
neat, thank god i didn't wasted my time
thanks guys

[dull shard]

do we know what the new structures are? and their recipes

[fervent lodge]

this is a byte

[sterile stratus]

if you only split it in 2 then it's binary

[fervent lodge]

trinary is just kinda ass to reason about for these things

[unreal laurel]

512?

[fervent lodge]

but it is indeed trinary if you want to

[sterile stratus]

well fair enough

just saying tho, nearly no one's using trinary

[unreal laurel]

hows that a byte?

[fervent lodge]

2^8 = 256

a byte is 8 bit

[unreal laurel]

belt is 0.5 aint it

[sick basin]

Well kinda yes
Purification station, expanded crucible and the mk2 pump

[sterile stratus]

0.5 unit/s flow yes

[fervent lodge]

doesn't matter, this configuration is an adder that goes from 0 to 255 if you read off the splitter states

[unreal laurel]

why do we need to go that high....

[sterile stratus]

true...

[unreal laurel]

ive never gotten past 150

[sterile stratus]

we can go higher

[wispy grove]

we cant rely on testing area yet🥀

[sterile stratus]

can chen count to 255 tho?

May wtf

[vast iron]

chen has under 255 int

P not

[unreal laurel]

that place cant even send images.....

[sterile stratus]

that's... unfortunate

[vast iron]

get da role

john endfield

[sterile stratus]

become john endfield

[sick basin]

Get perms then

[unreal laurel]

since when was that there.....

[vast iron]

always

[sterile stratus]

....

[fervent lodge]

single banner
new area opens later in the patch
are they... falling behind?

[unreal laurel]

ive been operating on the assumption all gen chats dont have image perms

[fervent lodge]

i mean even if, it's good they're not rushing and instead are taking time to polish it ig

[wispy grove]

whats the point of that if we have to wait a month to get the benefits of testing area

[sterile stratus]

they should announce it later

[unreal laurel]

i still cant find where you get the role

[cinder sun]

Shop

This is the server item shop.

[#0] [Role] Perma Leaf

10000 points

[#1] [Role] John Endfield (Image Perm)

10000 points

[#2] [Role] Landmine Hater (Landmine Immunity)

67 points

[#3] [Role] Landmine Lover (Increased chance & unlock mines)

67 points

[#4] [External] Landmine Lover requires Landmine Hater to work.

999999999 points

[#5] [Role] Professional Gambler

1000000 points

[sterile stratus]

there u go

get to #bot-spam and check ur point

[vast iron]

professional gambler…

hmm

[unreal laurel]

i have to use a shop......

[wispy grove]

i think the other map have the sub pac, not the testing area i think

cause theres no way i cant make comps till may 14

[unreal laurel]

yall cant blame me for not finding this

[vast iron]

ye, i saw marker stone had a conveniently flat area

[cinder sun]

Shop

This is the server item shop.

[#0] [Role] Perma Leaf

10000 points

[#1] [Role] John Endfield (Image Perm)

10000 points

[#2] [Role] Landmine Hater (Landmine Immunity)

67 points

[#3] [Role] Landmine Lover (Increased chance & unlock mines)

67 points

[#4] [External] Landmine Lover requires Landmine Hater to work.

999999999 points

[#5] [Role] Professional Gambler

1000000 points

[subtle finch]

my chen is actually pretty smart

[unreal laurel]

gimme a min to figure this out

[vast iron]

its a shame chen cant benefit from having a big brain

[unreal laurel]

someone help me out......

idk how to use the shop

[cinder sun]

heckerrz: You currently have 8893 points.

[vast iron]

Check your points

[cinder sun]

tbnrvonfuerza7671: You currently have 15960 points.

[vast iron]

then use

[unreal laurel]

enough

[unreal laurel]

how

[vast iron]

./shop purchase

and item id

[unreal laurel]

i did

i added #1

[vast iron]

wrong role..?

Wait

no

[unreal laurel]

?

aint #1 john endfield role

[vast iron]

I dont see your bot cmd

it is mb

[vast iron]

send command ig?

[unreal laurel]

whut

[vast iron]

just send the command in chat and it should buy it

[unreal laurel]

nothing

[vast iron]

oh

Try with 1

[cinder sun]

tbnrvonfuerza7671: You purchased: John Endfield (Image Perm).

[unreal laurel]

....

[vast iron]

lol

[cinder sun]

tbnrvonfuerza7671: You purchased: Landmine Lover (Increased chance & unlock mines).

[unreal laurel]

what does that do?

[cinder sun]

tbnrvonfuerza7671: You currently have this role, you can't purchase it again.

[vast iron]

landmines are only in generà chat

it can boom and mute u :3

[unreal laurel]

whut

why.....

[vast iron]

Funny

.landmine2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086673530314832/1434154209674264647/perlica.gif?ex=690945f0&is=6907f470&hm=f57a83ed37d87a842baad4b002dc93ff2d9b2ef2e712e3e63e00a57be134b4ab&=&width=138&height=138

[unreal laurel]

heres my version

[vast iron]

You can prob go yap in general now

channel kinda ded

[grim gale]

should i focus on upgrading these factory area and depot bus (including the outpost) or should i focus on upgrading depot node first?

[unreal laurel]

cant

theres a lifeng hater there atm

[fervent lodge]

all this channel can offer is marsh gas mk II

[subtle finch]

produce as many as you can first with the rate of the ores that you have, then you can decide

[keen river]

valley 4 is mainly limited by amount of unloaders you can place

and since the cost of additional unloaders skyrockets fast, you may want to put some in outposts first

[subtle finch]

they really featured an office printer here like its the coolest thing, and we wouldn't ask questions

[sterile stratus]

wym printers are tuff

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-tuff-tuff-so-tuff-minecraft-tuff-block-gif-17763894532060586049

[unreal laurel]

ill never unsee this.....

why curse me with this knowledge

[wispy grove]

get 3 chest to get 5 points. easiest mission fr

[hidden temple]

if I squint I see a gorilla

[upper fiber]

i saw endmin behind of zhuang....

[wispy grove]

needs less than 18k SC in my storage

[cinder sun]

reelnet: You currently have 20060 points.

[unreal laurel]

how do i get more points

[upper fiber]

✍️

[unreal laurel]

halo

[upper fiber]

olah

[dense blade]

yap

[unreal laurel]

question for you

whats your opinion on that new green operator?

[upper fiber]

skipable unit

i want vanguard 6*

[unreal laurel]

does she give you any lifeng vibes?

cause im getting a strong impression of that

[upper fiber]

uh i don't have lifeng

[unreal laurel]

i meant can you see any resemblence

[upper fiber]

i don't remember dude image

[viscid plover]

[unreal laurel]

looks like a better lifeng imo

kinda like how penguin is better than john

[upper fiber]

nothing amazing is all i can say

wonder if mifu or that girl will be vanguard

hope not the femboy one, i'll skip even if he's vanguard

[unreal laurel]

kinda looks like catcher

[upper fiber]

yeah, endfield unit model is limited, you will see them in similarity because they have same face contour and such

[hidden temple]

feranmut proxy

time to save

[pine musk]

Can I just copy the blueprint from discord to the game for easy placement

[vast iron]

yes

just copy the code

[pine musk]

So which one is the best full factory blueprint can you pls tell me

[vast iron]

theres alot of good ones just look in #1461542035617091681 lol

[pine musk]

That's the problem there are just too many of them

[vast iron]

most of the top blueprints are equal anyways, lol

try to find a low-power consumption one

[hidden temple]

i like looking through bps of other language channels

tho I've never used a bp myself, seeing some unique builds is pretty neat

[fluid fog]

Bored so I made this.

[orchid pilot]

/late but I think 7 forge is a safe bet. Fruit already made a great layout, here

Under the 8-forge limit, we'll either be doing 7/1 forge split of xira and heavy or 6/2

3 forges making heavy is not possible without eating xira reserves

since each heavy effectively costs 2.5 xira

[small totem]

that's what i'm thinking too, idk what's the ratio so it's better to just hold off it rn as we don't really know the exact recipe for heavy too, and it might be possible to incoperate it into the same Xiranite factory too.

[orchid pilot]

even 2 heavy forges would be eating reserves, because presumably you are still making at least 2 forges worth of batteries

we certainly know it's 2:1 plus xircon effluent

and I think it's a very reasonable assumption that the xircon effluent is 1:1, but there is some ambiguity between two different shots in the video whether 1 drop xircon or 2 drops

[small totem]

gotcha

[orchid pilot]

and those also depend on purification of inert xircon being 1:1

which, again, is what they showed us... but theoretically they could have connected things wrong

[fervent lodge]

you can also not make any plants in-house and easily fit 10 i feel,
like, maybe even ship carbon

[small totem]

still, with this much uncertainty in my mind, it's better i just hold off rn as i don't think i can make any good blueprint with the mindset i've rn

[fervent lodge]

annoyingly my DepotBlocks™ setup doesn't fit

into the outpost

[orchid pilot]

oof, so close

[vast iron]

outpost being 50 is such an awkward number

[fervent lodge]

i'm still madge they're not odd

AIC IS ODD

AAAAAAAAAA

[vast iron]

Aic is 80?

[orchid pilot]

REAL

[vast iron]

in wu

[fervent lodge]

aic is 9x9

[orchid pilot]

no the 9x9 chunk

[vast iron]

OOHH

hell naw

[orchid pilot]

can't center anything

[fervent lodge]

you can't center

yeah

MALD

[vast iron]

i mean

symmetry doesnt really matter

[fervent lodge]

shots u

[vast iron]

since water facilities are directional

[hidden temple]

only symmetrical PACs including AIC are diagonal ones

[fervent lodge]

rotational symmetry still exists

i forgot again
how many depots do we have in subpac?

assuming no upgrades in 1.2

8?

[vast iron]

ye but thats messier

[fervent lodge]

i mean you rotate around a center point

WHICH DOESN'T EXIST REEEEEEEEEE

[vast iron]

Most of my blueprints have some kind of edge or corner requirement

for waterpiping

[fervent lodge]

water can even go outside it's less important

[vast iron]

yeah but rotating constraints

exactly thr issue

[fervent lodge]

not really?

[vast iron]

I mean

[fervent lodge]

if it comes from outside it just comes from east west north

etc

[vast iron]

It would need more space if the water isnt on edge

[fervent lodge]

conduits obsolete any direction of it kinda

[vast iron]

since i build blueprints taking into account edges

[fervent lodge]

oh so it can be copied?

[vast iron]

its just +1 layers if not edge

[vast iron]

I just dont include and give instructions

[fervent lodge]

i guess the real symmetry hack is to inset by 1 for pipes lol

[vast iron]

lol

should work..?

odd length + even. Wait

no

fuck

[fervent lodge]

corner pipe

[vast iron]

I see why you hate odd length now

Even*

[fervent lodge]

like so

[vast iron]

Interesting

[fervent lodge]

then you can center automation core within the new bounds

kekw

[vast iron]

what are you tryna work on anyways

8 forge subpac?

[fervent lodge]

exploded my depotblocks to see if i can rearrange stuff based on the "shipping carbon" assumption

for subpac

each block has to be at most 12.5 cells wide

(reeeee)

[vast iron]

You only have 1 depot center node anyways

so you need -4 layers horizontally yo connect all blocks

[fervent lodge]

true

[vast iron]

wait do we even have enough blocks for 2 layers

[fervent lodge]

no it has to like

bend

[vast iron]

At least we can overflow with unloaders

[fervent lodge]

idk if they will give us the funny

[vast iron]

like hang off the side

[fervent lodge]

like, more depot bus ports in 1.2

[vast iron]

Its possible

they did for main

[fervent lodge]

they did but

send help

[marble yarrow]

AICeption

[fervent lodge]

there's no nesting tho
just clutter

i hate electric pylons

[dense egret]

BUILD ZA FACTORY!!!

[dense egret]

Xiranite pylons >>>

[fervent lodge]

no i mean

where do i even power this

pitfall of designing first, then trying to fit pylons

[dense egret]

You in early game?

You connect relays to pylons, then pylons to other services

[zinc egret]

do you have a code for this?

[dense egret]

Other services cant be wired via relays

[fervent lodge]

it's for 1.2, theoretical

[fervent lodge]

early game for 1.2, sure lmao

[dense egret]

Wdym you dont know

[orchid pilot]

Algoinde is talking about carving out 2x2 space lol

[dense egret]

Oh

Thank you for the simple human terms

[fervent lodge]

the stash 😭

[orchid pilot]

I bounced back and forth between designing first and then trying to fit pylons

[fervent lodge]

honestly the stash should go
feed it to PAC i don't car

[dense egret]

So compact

[orchid pilot]

and then allocating theoretical optimal grid of pylons first and designing around

but found the latter to be bad, I think, because sometimes there are regions where all the facs are big... and almost nothing tiles cleanly so the grid just warps anyway

[fervent lodge]

i hate the pac

[dense egret]

Tf is that

[fervent lodge]

useless piece of heck

[orchid pilot]

real

[dense egret]

Maximum production

So this was how other players were making their factory...

And here I am struggling with my refining unit producing too much sewage for xircon

[fervent lodge]

9 sorta kinda possible with shipped carbon

the evil stashes tho

also the wasted belt space ticks me off somewhat

[orchid pilot]

I think long term we're probably on 8
9 or maybe even 10 seems likely for 12 cap if we get that before we have 1.3 recipes
but I think eventually they will move us to 8/4 split where all the heavy conversion forges are fed by the free xircon from the wall of sewage

[fervent lodge]

sounds fair

[orchid pilot]

no consumption of base xira, all to heavy for a-level battery and whatever hetonite based trade-in

[fervent lodge]

i want some heavy recipes

like, lots of subproducts

[mellow vessel]

how to evenly distribute 2 fluid pumps to 3 or more mining rig

[hidden temple]

1 pump can handle 3 high purity nodes, so 2 pumps merged into a pipe or conduit can handle 6 high purity nodes
you can evenly distribute the water by splitting evenly (making sure pipe splitter subdivisions are the same) but because of priority flow/overflow, you don't really need to micromanage that

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
my design was really ahead of its time

[fervent lodge]

lmfaoo

[mellow vessel]

I visualize the first one but can't on evenly distributing the water, thx anyway

[fervent lodge]

PURITY CHANGES CONSUMPTION?!

aintnoway

[keen river]

yes?

technically, its same for electric mining drills when you count per items mined

[subtle finch]

you dont need to evenly distribute it, as long as you only connect it to the right amount of rigs
3 high purity or 6 low purity or ( 2 high 2 low), etc

[marble yarrow]

gonna miss 1.1 power saving

[river wadi]

hydro mining rigs can mine ferrium?

[marble yarrow]

any mineral node

[keen river]

funny enough, mk2 rig can mine originum too, but you pay double energy for it

[vast iron]

its fucking beautiful

[subtle finch]

i was stupid to upgrade everything to mk2, thinking it looked cooler

[vast iron]

"mineral purity increase" -> death

[marble yarrow]

its ok, just a few minutes to tinker

[vast iron]

nuh

far worse

[marble yarrow]

nah bro

[keen river]

technically

when purity increases, if you are underfeeding water

it will just produce the minerals at the old purity level

[marble yarrow]

if you take more than 10 minutes to upgrade piping and pump then skill issue

[tame sedge]

I spend 10mins falling in water when upgrading pumps

[vast iron]

no, if you hybrid ores it will balance out

like ferrium might decrease for ori increase

depends

[keen river]

well, if you mixed different node types in same pipe network then yeah

[vast iron]

thats, what i said yeah

[mellow vessel]

thx, do I am still curios how it would look like to evenly distribute it

[tame sedge]

So uh, with 8 forges, new crucible, heavy xiranite maybe 3:1 thats a ton of xiranite laying around...what do?

https://tenor.com/view/moss-viralhog-satisfying-marsh-immerse-gif-17821722

Just for components?

[valid gazelle]

[fluid fog]

LMAO

[valid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[subtle finch]

isn't that obvious? like this?

[keen river]

well, its bit more tricky if you have different ratios

[subtle finch]

oh they said 2 fluid pumps, that's more than what rigs need though, but still same concept
keep splitting until the target gets the right amount

[fervent lodge]

just made some BULLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT

wait forgot to move bus one right

[valid fox]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-sunglasses-glasses-gif-11912564503946093605

[subtle finch]

i cannot accept this excess waste of sandleaf powder

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=x2J9S6D1D0E0q8

WAIT

I CAN FIT THE REFINERS

[dense blade]

enka has a factory planner?

[fervent lodge]

no it's an elaborate illusion

[dense blade]

technically no waste

[marble yarrow]

asking the one who runs enka directly lmao

[dense blade]

but not very facility use efficient

with all of those unloaders

and shredders

[fervent lodge]

unloaders are fine, we got tons of bus anyway

[dense blade]

oh shit

[fervent lodge]

but yea shredders...

i tried to route around them but that loop blocks them

so can't share them

i like it modular anyway, we got power to burn

[dense blade]

I know a few individuals who would fume at the idea of even wasting 10 power

[keen river]

that is a nice build 👍

btw

have you thought about marking items on belts and automatically setting the recipes?

[dense blade]

what like control ports? (nvm)

[keen river]

last time i tried using that site, you had to choose recipes etc manually

[fervent lodge]

yeah that's the next thing i'll do

[keen river]

👍

[fervent lodge]

it's needed to resolve funnies when importing from the game

because the game just says "carbon".

WHICH RECIPE

[keen river]

well, you could compute it from scratch when someone imports no?

with exception of the seeding units

[fervent lodge]

well yes that's why i said that's the next thing i'll do

[keen river]

basically if you do this, the shredder has only one valid recipe, but the site proposes every recipe

it would make life easier all around

well, there are edge cases obviously

[uneven aspen]

started running 2 HC valley and 1 SC wuling since the start of 1.1

finally had enough surplus of it to cap it in the wuling depot

[fervent lodge]

just walk the graph and set it from incoming items yea

[keen river]

yeah

the tricky part is if someone does the unstable recipe shennigans

like those blueprints that make both types of healing items from one filling unit

but even then, it limits possible recipes to just few

[fervent lodge]

that one will need a solver rewrite

rn recipes are fixed

def not a priority but a desired eventuality

[keen river]

the other improvement i'd like to potentially see is

when you have water/fluid using building, highlight the fluid ports

either always or when you are dragging the pipe

it allows you to drag the pipe in, but there is no feedback which spot is right before you hover over it

[uneven aspen]

I think if if it shows the pipe inside of it like how the belt does it should be fine as well

[fervent lodge]

yeah that one is in the todo somewhere

[dense blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1454357180319797362/1485705473956253828/image.png?ex=69df2ecc&is=69dddd4c&hm=89fd08247ff1704e609b72f949b134b1a8b3c98ec431df1da2d3b73e1708305b&

[orchid pilot]

idk which is more impressive, 20 or 4M

[young stag]

i lowkey forgot separating units even existed

[dense blade]

you have to remove everything to place as many thermals as possible to get to 4mil

and just power off turrets

[subtle finch]

curious how double crucible recipe works though, isnt that the same?

[orchid pilot]

wait a minute, I didn't realize how many 4 mil is. 1250 banks??? that's nuts

[keen river]

well, it is possible to define more recipes on crucible, it sort of work

[fervent lodge]

no, you just define multiple and it tries to run all of them

fairly simple, i just had to make the recipes an array

[dense blade]

zero sanity activities

[uneven aspen]

needs unloader to default flipped

[fervent lodge]

if i make them dynamic it'll run by itself just like the game does

[fervent lodge]

objectively correct way is to build bottom up

wontfix

[orchid pilot]

rotate head instead

[keen river]

well, it could snap to the depot segments i guess?

but its such a minor thing

[dense blade]

[uneven aspen]

then why do most of the featured plans using unloaders go top down?

[fervent lodge]

because they're wrong

[subtle finch]

what's stopping from just trying all of the recipes

[orchid pilot]

if snapping, would then need a toggle for corners

[fervent lodge]

(the reason you do bottom up is because the actual game draws icons in a very dumb way, and the only way it doesn't cover belts is if you rotate to where depots are from the bottom)

so that's what i'm gotten used to

[keen river]

if i ever design some big blueprint, i will make it go from right to left :

[dense blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796746500789108758/1464847241108783237/endfield_bomb.gif

[keen river]

also, #1492888446845321338 message let me promote the thingy 😅

[fervent lodge]

Top 20 evil factories!

Number 15:

[keen river]

Does it have all required refining units? Nice

[young stag]

why didn’t zhuang fangyi use this blueprint? is she dumb?

[fervent lodge]

why didn't she just water the goddamn reactor core with a hose

maybe she is dumb

[subtle finch]

the 10th forge is like that person that wanna go in the elevator even though its full

[keen river]

Well to be fair, i think watering reactor wasnt the trick lorewise

They were just running different tests and it was the one that finally worked

Why it was necessary for us to smack random things to unlock gate between valley and wuling tho

[tame sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-thumbs-up-reaction-gif-4292798053672809579

[young stag]

has anyone tried to stockpile xiranite in the form of bottles yet

or does that not work

[subtle finch]

many did

[fervent lodge]

no that's the goddamn Sub-PAC

it was fine before it tried to get in

you can see that the whole top part had to switch to -1 wide cell design to make room for it

[young stag]

wait fuck you can’t get xiranite back from liquid form

i did not think about that

[keen river]

It looks like you could move the top forges to right

And compress them

[young stag]

pray heavy xiranite uses liquid xiranite in one way or another

[keen river]

Should save like 4-5 blocks

[fervent lodge]

time for Evaporating Unit

[fervent lodge]

yeah but there was no point, i compresssed them where it was enough to make AIC fit

[keen river]

Fair

[tame sedge]

It looks like it does based on video

2+1

[young stag]

if it doesn’t i guess im feeding it back to xircon line

cuz i’ll end up with like 116k bottles

[subtle finch]

?

[young stag]

liquid xiranite to item xiranite

[tame sedge]

Also talk of stockpiling inert to eventually turn to effluent

[young stag]

plus i jus remembered this exists

[subtle finch]

also, commas

[young stag]

it’s such a useless thing

i’ve never see anyone even do this

[subtle finch]

i was thinking on using it to transport sewage, but it can't separate that

[fervent lodge]

?

i think if you proc it it'll appear

[subtle finch]

plus the power cost would be too high, 40 for each unit

[fervent lodge]

it's inefficient to have it in item form tbh

low bandwidth

[subtle finch]

if they would just give us liquid loaders/unloaders instead of that ugly thing

[fervent lodge]

that would mean there's a liquid depot

i think i'm fine with it actually

being a separate thing

else it'd be kinda boring

and now they're changing inlets/outlets to be freely movable

so i'm all g

[subtle finch]

did they mention how belt-free transfer works?

[fervent lodge]

as in, lore?

funny originium teleprotocol drones

[subtle finch]

yeah, i guess we're supposed to assume there are drones

[tall tangle]

priestess delivery service. straight through AU

[fervent lodge]

i mean the holodrones literally fly out of the thing

and land on the automation core
it's part of the mining animation

[subtle finch]

i thought they're turned into data, since we can already teleport

maybe its just a symbol you know, like how we still use floppy disk icon

[fervent lodge]

true

[keen river]

i wish another tier of AIC would add fluid depot support honestly

but we probably wont see it in wuling

[young stag]

there already is a fluid depot, you just can’t dump sewage in it

[tall tangle]

if you want it so bad why not dozen fluid tanks? only slightly less convenient than bottles

[young stag]

they should let us dump sewage in that 40k pool but we get fined by wulings EPA

[fervent lodge]

i'd be fine with a big tank you have to place

like 8x8 tank

[keen river]

i guess that could work

but the inflexibility of moving fluids between aic zones

is kinda pain

[fervent lodge]

idk i like it
gives something to do

i'm prob gonna do conduits between the new subpac area and main aic

for fun

[vast iron]

I need them to give us protocol stash equivalent of tanks

3 inputs 3 outputs

[fervent lodge]

i wish they made protocol stash 2x3

[vast iron]

2by2 stash would be the dream

2 is enough for most logic circuits

[fervent lodge]

what else do you want, 1x1 pylons?

[vast iron]

How did you know

[river wadi]

1x1 depot loaders and unloaders plz

[vast iron]

Thats just dragging belt out of depot, LOL

[fervent lodge]

it'll trivialize stuff a lot

[vast iron]

Im honestly surprised the main aic core cant just wirelessly power thr entire area

Im tired of pylons messing up my design

[fervent lodge]

blame perlica

she came up with this energy distribution system

[vast iron]

[vast iron]

Perlica is collecting the space to rent out for profit

Free real-estate

[tame sedge]

This is what happens when you go on vacation for 10ys and leave your project with the new hire.

[keen river]

this comic is nice but it messes so much potential lore

[fervent lodge]

just surtr no?

laev*

[keen river]

well, one being that dijiang was already in space 10 years ago

as opposed to trailer where its built and launched relatively recently

[fervent lodge]

[vast iron]

Could be a ground lab?

I didnt read the comic

[fervent lodge]

https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0FsZ29pbmRlL2FrZWZfbWFuZ2EvbWFpbi9ha2VmX21hbmdhLmpzb24/1/1/#2

[vast iron]

Dang it aint loading for me
Ill remember to check it out later

[keen river]

it directly contradicts this thing

which tbh would be much more fun lorewise

[keen river]

https://endfield.gryphline.com/en-us/news/0753

[fervent lodge]

NO

bad

https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0FsZ29pbmRlL2FrZWZfbWFuZ2EvbWFpbi9ha2VmX21hbmdhLmpzb24/1/1/#2

restarted

[keen river]

😅

[vast iron]

Lol

[fervent lodge]

don't read the official translation it's genuinely a travesty

[keen river]

there is also laev being on board way before her personal quest and i think it also contradicts her lore entries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ00ggFb8A0 meanwhile this has endfielders build the dijiang in the 10 years the endmin is in stasis

oh well

[fervent lodge]

dang

:/

sloppy

[keen river]

so now the question is whenever child perlica is the proper lore or the perlica doing the ceo pose to launch dijiang is proper lore 😅

we will never know i guess

[fervent lodge]

oh wait i get it

it was in repairs

👍

because aic research blew it the fuck up

there fixed your plot hole

[keen river]

i guess we can deorbit that massive chunk of orginium on demand

[fervent lodge]

that said, how does lore explain this

[keen river]

dunno 😅

i think this fits the crystialized dream thing tho

[fervent lodge]

(this how dijiang gets deorbited and orbited)

she just stands up and yoinks it

[keen river]

well, the lore is bit spotty so far, shall see how they resolve it in future

but its also probably not the best channel for it

[vast iron]

It looks like one of those pieced together whole-aic screenshots

Also fuck chibi perlica is too cute

[keen river]

somehow endfield turned from waifu collection game to daughter collection game

[vast iron]

Here we collect drops of sanity from blueprint optimizers

Reminds me i havent made a bp in a bit

[keen river]

everything will need to be changed in two days anyway

[worldly shuttle]

what are some uses for the item control port other then sorting? im maingly talking about the quantity limit

[vast iron]

Quantity limit kinda useless ngl

Sorting only really useful for technical builds

Problem is quantity limit is 5000, which is too low for actual usecase unless you spam them with like splitters, and then itl be annoying to configure

[real crescent]

thats what happens when endmin eats too many of the funny rocks. we will unlock this variant in about 10 years

[vast iron]

Fatmin

[fervent lodge]

p50 endmin

[real crescent]

your endmin so big she has space for a private zipline network

[vast iron]

Endmin after eating the protocol originium

[worldly shuttle]

alright thanks! personally i wish you could use the limit to interact with other machines. for example: i have a belt with orignium ore being made into origocrust and another being made into orignium powder into batteries, well id want to have it so once the quantity limit for the origocrust is reached its would turn off the refinery so more orignium could go to the shredder
(sorry if that doesnt make sense)

[vast iron]

Makes sense, but not really used lategame since we dont swap recipes often

[fervent lodge]

and you have to reset these manually

[worldly shuttle]

this is another thing which i always thought was weird tbh

[vast iron]

#1476003772890218638 Is the more flexible alternative, but its also more complicated

:3

[vast iron]

Usually a lot of quantity stuff is managed by simply filling the depot, which is basically a bigger item control port since it can only hold so many items of the same type

And it resets automatically when stuff is taken out or used, clearing space in depot

[worldly shuttle]

right

[tame sedge]

You could use a splitter such that once or whenever the first line cloggs, the orig diverts to the second line

[orchid pilot]

such a joke for this thing to be 5000 with no input (at least on mobile), just a slider
should be higher to be able to set functional limits, but can you imagine the slider resolution if it were like 80k lmao

[tame sedge]

slider is still prertty useless on pc

Or i just drink too much coffee

[vast iron]

To get 80k just put a 16 way splitter and 1 at each end :clueless:

[orchid pilot]

let alone your much improved translation...
it was jarring to see their official version didn't even use a small caps font

real eyesore

[vast iron]

Ive used it a single time and regretted ever since

[small totem]

those guys who are making way more items then they can sell, what do you do with your items when they are near cap?? DO you just let them be while the factory the shuts/clogged when they are maxed out, or do you guys just discard some of it

[graceful crescent]

where is the lc battery going??

[sick basin]

Its valley, so i just let it clog if it comes down to it

[fervent lodge]

i ate it

[sick basin]

Noone cares about valley anymore 🥹

[sick basin]

Did it taste good

[fervent lodge]

(it's probably filling thermal banks/stashes and so is not going to the depot for now)

also it updates once per like 5 minutes and averages over 10 minutes so data may be slightly stale

[small totem]

well, idk what you're asking for tbh, the less Yield or the usage

[graceful crescent]

i meant like how come it's not storing

[fervent lodge]

show production end of it

[small totem]

Did you connected it to some protocol stash or unloader?

[vast iron]

I wonder what wuling batteries taste like

Good question

[small totem]

from what i can see, it just kinda started ig, as it went from 0 to 5/min, so basically all of them went to Thermal bank as it can hold 50 of them. like how Algoinde said

[small totem]

let it sit for a bit. but do note that there's a little problem with the factory itself as it's making 5/min instead of 6/min, so maybe wait to see if it fixes itself or you're clogging something there

and check the thermal bank to see your battery stash

[cedar bay]

Ever tried McNuggets from Macdonalds?

[fervent lodge]

ever licked a 9v battery

probably like that but with a hint of mint

[cedar bay]

I was thinking more like McNuggets just just with slightly less acid.

[vast iron]

Tho they run on originium no? Might just taste like mint flavored coal

[small totem]

What if the ferrium are like ice cubes, will the battery be cold..... McNugget Icecream...

[vast iron]

Nah ferrium is basically iron

[orchid pilot]

I've been backpacking to run my wuling fully on v4 batteries, and at 3 batteries (4.5/min) consumed, it still goes up (but slowly; never hit cap on both sides)
I did once forget the wuling cap was 58 and accidentally destroyed some batteries by trying to deposit

it's better value since v4 is dead but also kinda just shifts the same problem to wl, now overflowing with sc batts
I'm praying we get a big ol' sink with the lv4 upgrade and the new outpost

I guess if we don't get enough sink to burn all the stashed excess, I'll just switch to components for a while

[dense blade]

power

[dense blade]

it literally is the latin word for iron with an “i” added to it, same with copper

[vast iron]

Funny you say that

Jincao tea is a carbonated drink

We r poisoning the population

[dense blade]

gas in endfield when

can we pls make hydrogen bombs

[vast iron]

HC wuling industrial explosive when

[tawny ravine]

pee first

more important than bomb

[dense blade]

is there a brown liquid

[tawny ravine]

1.3

[dense blade]

xiranite is lwk just radium

[shrewd knoll]

time to enrich those xiranite to 90%+ for some weapons grade stuff instead of useless power grade enrichments

[vast iron]

Xiranite 235

[dense blade]

heavy xiranite is just a bigger isotope

does anyone know the formula btw

do you literally just run normal xiranite back into a forge

[tall tangle]

what are you on about? xira is just mold. literally dry plants in water

[dense blade]

mold batteries

[tall tangle]

well there is cancer rock in batteries so those are different

[dense blade]

cancer mold batteries

arguably you break down the plants down to carbon first

and the forge does fusion ig

[sick basin]

Looks like just 2 xira and effluent

Or whatever that dark green water is

[dense blade]

2 xiranite and you’re using a forge?

wtf

[sick basin]

Ye

[vast iron]

mutated mold battery

[dense blade]

3 forges for heavy xiranite

[sick basin]

Heavy xiranite is using 3 or even 4 forges

[vast iron]

its literally antibiotics thats why they stop blight surely

[sick basin]

Its why we got doubled

[dense blade]

probably 3, so we have 2 heavy xiranite lines + 2 regular xiranite and then 4 or 3 heavy xiranite lines when we get 12 forges

[vast iron]

we assume its 4 forges, but there are new ways to get xircon effluent so maybe less

[sick basin]

Still need to use 1 lines of xiranite ti make effluent

[dense blade]

that’s some fast moderation ngl

[vast iron]

#do-not-post-or-get-beaned

:3

[sick basin]

Unless we use the new facility thing

[dense blade]

efluent comes from the new filtration depot thingy right

[vast iron]

yee

[sick basin]

But the new thing is in the test area

[vast iron]

yeah

[dense blade]

I suppose there’s two no?

[sick basin]

So we finna be pulling it from there to marker stone

[vast iron]

we are also theorizing that the purifier might be able to turn inert xircon into effluent

but we dont know the ratio

[sick basin]

No

[dense blade]

you can upgrade the area to place more

wouldn’t it then in theory be like a depot node

[vast iron]

yeah but theres 3 intakes and only 1 output

so max you get like

[dense blade]

with several across the map

[vast iron]

2/minute

[sick basin]

Theres only 1

[dense blade]

[sick basin]

Cuz its a thing like depot, stock

They showed its in test area

[vast iron]

each upgrade gives you 1 more inlet/outlet

[dense blade]

this is gonna be a pain

to link

[vast iron]

even better, the subpac is probably in the other area!

[sick basin]

Well ye
But still only 2 meters next to the thing thats on the other side of the world

[sick basin]

Its not probably
It is

[vast iron]

-# this is why they gave us compound conduits

[dense blade]

are they like

double the distance

[vast iron]

well test area will be releasing late

[vast iron]

no, same distance but each facility has 2 intake/outlet

[sick basin]

New outpost is in Marker stone

[vast iron]

its basically a 2in1 conduit

[dense blade]

but double power usage I’m guessing

[sick basin]

Go pull pipes from these

[vast iron]

conduits dont use power, u high?

[dense blade]

might be

so old conduits are straight up inferior now

[vast iron]

Maybe

[dense blade]

just like zipline pylon/older mining rigs

[vast iron]

well it is bigger sometimes we dont need 2 intale/outlet

old inlet fits better

[dense blade]

[vast iron]

Outpost is 99.99% in marker stone

they aint gonna release a new outpost halfway through the patch

[dense blade]

not even halfway

a month after start

a week from 1.3

[orchid pilot]

100%, directly stated

I guess technically what they stated is that in Marker Stone we can find a new liquid, acid
but onscreen they are showing that acid pumped directly to outpost so of course, outpost is in Marker Stone

I am still legitimately confused how we're supposed to be feeding the great wall of sewage if it's in test area and there's no outpost there

[vast iron]

as i said, they gave us compound conduits for a reason.

[keen river]

Even without directly stating, they showed the map view with outpost on it

[orchid pilot]

cross continental conduiting is still evil even if it's done 4/s at a time lmao

I guess it's no worse than v4 power delivery, but still

[keen river]

I wonder if they will add some sort of conduit extender

[orchid pilot]

OHHH thanks for pointing this out
I was like where tf... turns out (at least once, maybe it also appears elsewhere) it's when they're showing decorations and I was tuned tf out lmao

wait no that's main AIC lmaooo

oh well, I trust you that it's in there somewhere

[keen river]

Look around part about game improvements

Where they show you can now remotely grab recycling stations

They show a map view thre

[orchid pilot]

wait whoa it's huge

[vast iron]

its probably just like a lil corner and the rest is lore structures

[orchid pilot]

oh yeah nvm

the box around sky king flats is way bigger than the actual pac area

[keen river]

Yeah

[orchid pilot]

well, I'm happy that it's right the heck at the start of the map

hopefully that means less yapping to get started

[keen river]

The box is new outpost, the pac would be in corner next to acid pond

[orchid pilot]

and I can enjoy story later

[keen river]

Well

This is the back entrance

I doubt it will be open

[orchid pilot]

oh true, we probably go through the pillar array thing

[keen river]

The main entrance is south of wuling city and we probably will go through there

[orchid pilot]

right yeah that

[keen river]

And with how the maps work so far, that probably means we need to do whole/much of quest until we can explore

[orchid pilot]

x_X

[keen river]

I wonder how thr outpost will be integrated tbh

[sacred tiger]

Guys I really love this game but like the I don’t like the factory can I still enjoy the game?

[orchid pilot]

oh you're right

outpost is at the very opposite corner of the map

damn