#aic-factory
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looksmaxxing or efficiencymaxxing
Why not both
dont really care about asthetics if it works properly
Thats… impossible
Its possible ofc
well it would take a full working week but its possible
if the world was perfect sure
what ya testing
My production of sc batteries has capped
So it should be diverting my xiranite production
Its making lc batteries/amethyst liq xiranite/steel liq xiranite/crystal xiranite
And copium comps
And still slowly stockpiling zircon
Me when im throwing my sc in the same stash as my A/C plants
yes just made my first explosives time to cuase carnage
The funny part is ima probs delete my whole base with 1.2
sames, lol
a whole night for 8k components 
apr 17 no?
mine working at 1/min lol
Oh then I can sell up until the 14th
Same I think my copium ones should hit two
My rate is like
With maxed sc bats
13k a week
im not making 58k before 1.2
umm soo im at 175/200 power should i start making batteries or no
Im at like 53k
Am i the only one having problems making sewage in wuling for my SC wulling batteries?
You could just burn ori rock
the crust?
thats like the most basic part
Raw
i have 8k of it and there a buting unit?
I know. But my stash gets full of caprium products that i cant get rid of 24:7
thermal bank
How are you having issues
check if you unlocked it in tech tree yet
Like the copium production clogging?
craft syring a
Also full…
sell??
jincao a?
Dust? Move extras to v4?
no i have not time to explore i guess
might be sellable next patch
Cant. Only type C in outpost t2
Unlock next outpost level
Working on it because im low on LC batteries
why are you making sc batteries before outpost lv 3
I would focus all xiranite lines into lc bats
Have had problems with power supply demand but its fixed due to the SCs 6/m and im only using like 1,5/s
You could also make the comps
bring hc battery fromv4 😭
For meds
I also didnt want to use any v4 bats in wuling
Demand per h is higher than batteries transfer per hour
But now im like I want to stress test
manually transfer
ma nual wor k
Manually transfer
Lolol

industry leaders like us shouldnt be doing manual work…

I dont wannaaaaaaa
best CEO out there
Im a endmin. I dont do work

Why not make like 18 LC batteries
not enough originium fo that
Isnt it 540 yield?
Yes, incredibly, no xiranite shortage
thats v4
yall just lazy to work
wuling is 480
gotta use every energy i get :D
Damn
1 unloader should be able to feed 4 banks
Tbh i use like 2.99k power in wuling 😦
Christ
They could make 16 LC batteries an hour
3.29k with 12/min sc :3
does it?
yes, but takes a bit to ramp up
is it possible to setup 1.1 AIC in a way that it doesn't break when either the batteries or syringes hit the depot cap? or is that just inherent to how things work with the tools we currently have available?
well if you just let the excess sit eventually it will end up clogging but we can delay it
Takes alot of knowledge of priority belts
Should i redo my entire WSC battery setup?
since while we do have a fluid trashcan
doesnt a bank use 8/m, 480/8 =40
we have no way to "delete items"
priority belts?
I would focus your batteries toward LC batteries
Until you unlock sc trades
read this
I fucking love priority belts
They do tho lol
if only they stopped changing up when relogging
They dont tho?
thats convergers, no?
Not splitter
priority convergers have swapp behavoir i think
i remember testing priority splitter offline behavior and it was stable
Is this overkill for xircon
it was inconclusive for me for both
i'll come back to trying to TC the actual mechanics later as i have the actual placement data
we'll see if they change it any in 1.2
this is my nightmare
This looks like a mess to me
The worst part i got Ocd… 😦🫨
fluid facilities being directional… 
Please just let us swap input sides
One sc bat set up
With overflow protection
A priority Splitter is a seperator that sends materials down the lane until it is full, then switches to the next lane, instead of evenly distributing to all 3 lanes.
that's literally what's needed. sewage to the crucibles first, then shunt to an overflow treatment line if the crucibles clog (but ignore overflow line if crucibles aren't clogged)
i… havent tested with liquids yet
sorry

we dont have a "protocol stash" for liquids either
youd have to use an off state reactor crucible or sm
this is making my brain hurt
What i really want to know is how to properly sequence protocol stashes
wym?
It was for bottling sewage im maxed so im good
So it only sends after the mines send
me when testing priority splitters/belts is basically this
Its very inconsistent
Fluid Tank mk2 with 3x input and 3x output when?
Im waiting too
Or to sequence one stash to always be the last to try and send stuff to the depot
there should be a fluid storage expansion to AIC itself and depo pipe loader/unloader..
maybe in 1.3
Putting priority on the other stashes
that, no clue. Not much ways to test since stashes are just… toggle on off
Yeah that was one way to do it
hopefully in the future we'll just get logic gates for proper logistics
But damn its annoying af
Ima start having to do runescape tick manipulation tricks
I have 1 forge of the sky constantly being off tick
Too far.. too far-
And it annoys the hell outta me
select all 4 forges, move them, move back
oops wrong reply
wait till you see lets game it out factory you will ahve an aneurism
Or maybe I just blue print it
already did
But they might be too far
bruh
lol
nah, thats just the ping 
.pinged to get a .pong of 9,996.
xd
bruh
nah, Josh's creations are comfy
comfy chaos
SIKE WRONG PLACE
there is no sign of sanity anywhere in this video
u sure test site is the right area and not the marker stone?

wait no
wait
im lost
mb
yeah it starts from marker stone
Oh look. A conveniently flat piece of land 
I wonder what its for
Also
you sure 1 pipe is enough?
you no conduit :<
end of video.
if it isnt enough then i'll just bottle it and fetch it 
reminds me when i drained the 800 sewage pool by hand, put them into a fluid tank and then deleted it
stonks sewage removal technique
magic liquid disposal
fair 😅
at least you didnt route the sewage pipe through Da Pan's shabushabu restaurant
is that a challenge?
😅
wait, when did we start caring about civilians?
bruhhhhh lmao
I will laugh so hard if somehow stone outpost is space-constrained for acid operations and this ends up being optimal
i'll just actually use the outpost for the permanent productions, like xiranite, a 6/min SC line, meds, etc. and main AIC for stuff that i will tinker everyday
20 sandleaf loops
tp-ing to multiple outposts is a pain, unless they give qol for easier inter-outpost teleporting like a small button easily accessible
said that in cbt3
still waiting...
500 sandleaf.
wym by that
still... loading screens. sure is better to keep important sht in one place
i mean depot is basically a wireless belt
we just need fluid storage for aic now
pipe depot inlet
pipe depot outlet
that would be so useful
Yeah that's my plan too, thank you Fruit for the 7 skyforge outpost!! Tried so hard and could not arrange the 6 cleanly enough to fit another; amazing that your layout is so readable too
still trying to decide whether to pick that or 6 forge no stashes design for sky king flats
Amen
wait, fruit already worked on 7 forge design? Im behind nooo 
holy reactions, didn't see thanks
based on what they showed in the video, I think it's a tossup between 6 forge xira and 2 forge heavy and 7/1 based on preference for how much component to stockpile
I fully expect that the 12 forge endgame will be full 8/4 conversion to heavy though, and only using the free xircon from the wall for b-batts
ig 8/0 isnt happening
you mean 9/3?
ye im just waiting for update to see recipes and such, not doing any bps for now
I be in aic factory randomly and still see you on
The trick is I also dont sleep
The factory must grow
it might cost heavy xiranite
that would make sense
10 heavy xiranite + 10 hetonite circuits
nightmare machine before u sleep
Ive been trying to keep my main aic symmetrical
i think new battery will be just that holmium component + some heavy xiranite combined plus usual originium cubes
or was ti hetonite
purification unit..?

I wonder if that works
self sustaining sewage?
yes actually
holy thats sick
bruh
that means we only need 30/min xiranite for each 30 xircon
huge
double the xircon production
sounds good until some crucible bug makes it implode

Ill have a set up next factory for it
imagine it gets amplified on a triple formula
machine of nightmares
the setup works but loses 1 sewage per week
could easily be worse
belts are a 0.3 loss rate
ye, but they are only performance loss, not actual item loss
imagine if your loop loses some fluid each pass and eventually gets empty
I just realize
if this is true
plant alternation will become optimal
isnt that reason why nightmare machine is bad?
we are betting on the purification station recipe
yeah the cope 1:1 inert to xircon
but we wont be able to hybrid it with plants anymore
should i start to saving sewage?....
i based it on the video, since a 30/min inert output produces a healthy pipe after the purification
i was about to say that gambling bad, but cant really do that in gacha game
thats a fallback if its still 2 formula at a time
No, I mean 8/4
zero consumption of base xira
full conversion to heavy
assuming in 1.3 they finally give a-batteries and whatever other stuff using hetonite
the wall
is this A + C
the free effluent from the wall
ye
remember, yazhen A wasnt shown in the stream, but instead was revealed in a post a few days before 1.1
maybe they will reveal a new battery that way

a new battery will rightfully be a level 4 trading item
it will be shit if just hetonite part and heavy xira
(yeah it was just cope)
cant be 3 items, sooo
jincao tea ascension
maybe hetonite parts, originium cube and liquid heavyxira
that stocked inert gonna be so useful
got to 40k before hitting the facility limit x_X
originium cube?
moved as much of my battery stashes out into the wild into jingyu and qingbo
qingbo 😭
just for the protocol limit lmaoo
imma have to remove my incineration chamber in qingbo
Gets weird idea
who are you even burning
is there even any relevant stat combo in stockade site?
it seem everthing can be farmed elsewhere
i just run + stock bill gen and + sell value
- prosperity at new patch
i mean
for his incineration side, i guess he was farming the stockade's alluvium site for something
stockade has an alluvium..?
yeah the essence in qingbo
its quingbo stockade
outpost has actual name, but it got translated literally in the english version
you think me, who likes in #aic-factory, would know the slightest bit of lore?
true
actually in every alluvium i have incineration chamber installed
endfield disappointed me last time by not allowing me to dump waste or inert fluid
i hope i can at least dump cuprium fluid
acid would be funnier tho
BRO I PREPARED PISS WATER PIPE FOR 40K POOL
found in pools naturally = dumpable, surely..
probably not
Iirc for me, protocol stanza was the only weapon I used that needed it. But I exp farm there and the pure essence drops sell for wuling bills (albeit, a pitiful amount lol)
i hope dissolved cuprium is dumpable
endfield likes "environmental awareness"
the red one is even better lmaoo
we are too woke to dump liquids that are remotely considered waste
Having pools of acid in the wild feels like a very healthy environment
Thank you for your feedback
i have been mostly farming the monitoring center alluvium recently, but tantang's essence escapes me :<
the natural pool of acid is natures course
also what is this factory gore
wait
animal meat processing facility soon
how tf does any of this factory work
so this might be a stupid question but does the meta-storage transfer constantly or does it do it all at once when the timer hits 0?
should be constantly
timer hits zero, transfers the amount, then restarts
ok well if there's an existence of a piss pool
there should be an allowance of filling the 40k pool
i dont think its the actual factory tbh, just a preset
in particular, notice how the grass clips through the belts which doesnt happen in normal game
it does
actually
well it's making something
also the layout is realistic
they really built that outpost with aic live gameplay
at least not to the degree you see on their videos
i have a belt semi hidden when top view
maybe you havent just built in the exact spot yet
ok good to know im trying to figure out if im relying on the transfer to recover my losses or if i was still losing with the trasnfer in progress
note that you need to reset it manually if you top out the storage, as far as i experienced
so if it hits inventory cap it stops working?
idts? Depends how much you empty out
Never had it happen
i certainly hit the cap when using meta storage and it didnt locked itself out
if it cant transfer (depot is full) it will start filling up. But it will keep trying to send regardless
ill keep an eye on it this is my current useage and the meta should keep me from going empty
i think i had to kick it manually, lemme check
throw 50 ferrium ore in the ground
maybe it would have to go below -1500 for it to start working again
im also doing that 90/115
i reach 58k when my yazhen C went full and i didnt even look at the regional transfer window to reset it
lmao imagine that happens only coz you went in that interface 
oh no, not the Schrodinger's meta transfer
i think it waits for 1500 of free space. had similar situation with other resource
what is this power output means?
nope its this
total power (top middle of aic screen)
Ah, i guess the power region is the next tech in tree
build more powerplants
well and feed them too
I mostly blazed through v4 tech, you get way too many wavy boys too fast
Oh well
truly help moment
just corrected before replying <_<

thanks for the clarifying
it's quite a shame we don't have enough buildings with high power usage
it's all so manageable
yet some people suffer with it
i wanted to try getting the highest possible power usage
i estimated about 63000 watts
but that's such a boring number since the current highest building is 50
fym dont stash exist
doesn't that use 5 power
yet somehow the most consuming one for starter

dunno, i will give it some time, lets see if it resets
if you hit the button it will start counting from 0
it do reset automatically, though after i drain the wuling ferium and go offline its sart working again
i wonder if it only checks from time to time
idk that i just go offline and check next day tbh
yeah, gonna do that
Okay is it only me if i select bulk action in factory builder game crashes ?
k, time to go offline and see
hm, never experienced it
moving stuff around / scrapping them seem to work fine
ye that wroks but if i press bulk action game just crashes on me
i drop alot of frames if i try to select a ton of componenets
im assuming cpu bottleneck
nah i literraly discarded my whole pac in 1 go
but yeah i got fps dropped too
just by selecting a large area
Yes. Not only is it a manual reset, but also 1) there's no notification and 2) you lose the stocked 1hr progress along with, obviously, the whole duration of downtime when you resume (1hr counter starts again from scratch)
So basically, set up whatever you're metaxferring such that it's below 56.5k when you land your transfer tick an hour later
It's hands off now that (as far as I can tell) they fixed the offline factory slowdown and we don't sneakily accumulate ore anymore
At least, I've watched my ores for a couple weeks now and not had to do the old manual cleanup that used to be a near-daily chore
Sorry that I wasn't around to say this before Amelek sacrificed their 1.5k ferr for the sake of knowledge lol
Well, technically beltspeed is around >0.5% slower than 30/min, but it shouldnt be having that much effect on the metatransfer product, especially since metatransfer products are usually under 30/min (25)
Tho you might have an issue if youre for example, transferring raw ferrium
It can be a good idea to transfer a slightly processed version of goods, like ferrium dust for example
Also, beltspeed slowdown only happens offline
or that
Or that.
Yeah, definitely power advantage to transfer something further along the chain, just harder to distribute properly
tho it still ticks me off that 25/min thing
25 raw ferr is very easy to set up
25 of the higher level, not so much
AIC report also shows no income from transfer
I'll have to calculate the ore sometime to see if/how much has accumulated in, say, 8hr offline time
All I know that it's nothing like it was before, but I haven't actually bothered to verify that it's not climbing a tiny bit
Would be funny if it just had a gigantic spike for when you got 1500 ferrium in a single second, lol
Pretty insidious if you have 115/90 set up correctly and it's climbing
Because if it crosses 56.5 at transfer time and you don't realize, you'll drain to empty in just a day and a half
does anyone know if the new outpost gonna be in the first new area or 2nd new area?
first new arena
Marker Stone (the left side one)
its right next to valley's cave
Oh WTF
I tested with a loop setup, one machine with 1 output 1 with 2
The one with 2 output had its items slowly funneled over to the one with only 1. But the rate is slow, like maybe id lose 50 ovrenight
Wait wait wait
It is

yeah we get 1 area a month later
so i was wodnering if someone analyzed the dev livestream
Wtf did they say this??
to know if outpost is likely in 1st or 2nd area
I listened to the whole thing
there's 4 images
going more detail
God
about the next update/timeline
1st area has a conveniently flat piece of land
I wonder...
Wish they'd put it in the video instead of social feed ugh
or just even not twitter because i had to open image in new tab to read it properly 😔
It would be surprising if they lock the outpost to the 2nd half anyways
well the onyl reference is valley's last outpost being the last area
well wuling been different so who knows
We dont even know how many areas wuling will have in total
Test area could easily not be the end
Sorry which image says test area is may unlock?
I skimmed the 4 images and didn't find
Tho it might be
Alternating have/does not have outpost
Since in v4 we had the landbreaker camp, then quarry, then science park, then lodespring, then power plateau
It is alternating
In order of unlock
I guess we wait another month for free xircon effluent
so it wont be 1 pack delivery? when's cc then?
Wish they would say that outright
Horrifying
No info lol
Can be 1.3, can be farther
No wonder they phrased it as something like "along with the exploration into the test area, you'll unlock the capability"...
I was worried about how the hell we'd pipe our sewage there when the outpost is in marker stone
But I guess I don't have to worry about it for another month 
That means we'll also need to wait a month to continue main story
Unless test area has no connection ti main story and its just some big side quest

Pissed about it... Thank you so much Zombie for alerting us!
well, they are rapidly losing me there. if story is bad, which is already short, there is literally nothing left
Would have been a nasty surprise to rush the aic unlocks, finish story, and be like that gif of the guy turning around looking for anything/anyone
CC is not for 1.2 at all, it was in the "stuff well do in the future" section
honestly, im surprised they even packed two maps into one version. i wonder how big they are
Both should be bigger than qingqo
better not turn out to be smaller than qingbo in return for there being two
From whay i rmb them saying
that would be great
qingbo was nice but felt way too small, i finished the main quest with like 60-70% of exploration done
Cuz the area itself is quite big
Like, its close if not bigger than jing valley
But because of the fact most of it is just..well, there and we cant walk on it
The actual area we can traverse is small
not exactly a surprise
they have consistently release those timeline for the update
images
even for 1.0 and 1,1
It's just learning how we can expect them to release content
Still weird
I kinda doubt they'll really keep it to 14th May
Thats literaly the final week of the update
They appear smaller on the map than any of the 3 existing
I compiled a screenshot somewhere earlier here, lemme find
"Appear to be" doesnt mean much
Stockade also "appears to be big" and its not when ure in it
I mean, they are very intentional about their UI design
True, vertical axis could provide more content
I'm just strictly saying in terms of "size"
oh I sent it somewhere else
oops qingbo not pictured, should have said just against wuling and jingyu
for me it would have been a surprise, I don't use social media except this
they haven't previously gated whole maps before, just events
Both are half size of wulling, 2/3rd of jing
+its kinda of a weird angle
They'll be big enoigh
Yeah I'm not concerned, the smaller the better for me as I'm not an exploration fiend
and I guess underground pillar system is probably being added as part of wuling map
looking at the 1.2 livestream, the "test area"(2nd month area) seems to be city-like structures
while the new outpost seems to be in a heavily forested/nature area
even if it's a side instance like the office
wait if new area unlocks in may, then 12 forges also in may? 
so gonna make a guess the next area will be the new outpost
and not gonna make us wait until may
It was confirmed its in marker stone tho
Why are we guessing
marker stone?

The first map
oh that image
No, 12 in 1.3
yeah, it was unambiguously stated
@marble yarrow its indeed depleting i guess it was because i was building a lot of parts beforehand
but factory overhaul in 3 days anyway so this is kinda pointless 
the excess is why people are planting forests of protostashes lol
ah ok in fairness to them, it was subtly mentioned once in the video
completely missed it because we already knew from 1.1 video that 1.2 would have two maps, and no precedent of staggered release
so made 3 thermal banks and now have 350 max power should i make more or nah
it doesn't really matter, eventually you have enough originium to not care about whether you made 3 banks or 30, fine to make them as you need them or to make them in advance
welcome to the game, hope you enjoy the aic :)
so it the protocla stash a wireless sender to my deot or do i have to hook it up
wireless as long as it's powered and set to wireless (there is an option to turn off wireless, regardless of whether it's powered up or not)
lmfao I love everyone's different solutions
tf are cryston bottles actually used for
soo i want to draw something from my depot and all my access ports are filled what to do
Stonkn't
depot unloaders as well?
tf are those
Depot Unloader is an AIC Depot Access in Arknights: Endfield.
Item descriptionIn extreme environments, the Depot Loaders and Depot Unloaders can be directly connected to the facilities to ensure germ-free and low Blight transportation.
A placeable unloading point that transfers goods from a local depot...
they unload things from the depot
hi, when using regional transfer, does it use the items made in the other region?
found the damn side quest that allows me to get this
to store my liquid xiranite
yes unless you have meta transfer unlocked
i do! so it wouldnt right
the most important stuff in wuling is xiranite
you have to make sure you are using meta transfer specifically
i think you have to go to V4 to initiate a meta transfer from V4 to wuling
whats the difference between cryston and ferrium or steel
bottles i mean
is it not the same xiranite
i can store more
that is all
690k storage
so you store xiranite in different bottles so that they stack
the bottle types dont stack
so i initiated a meta transfer of dense originium powder from v4 to wuling, lets say i have 0 dense originium powder in v4, would that still work?
Yes, explicitly stated by the game
how tf does this depot unloader fucking work
you need a bus
it attaches to it
talk to andre for the upgrade
ye
factory shutting down until 1.2
tf is a bus
of course! It's just funny to see the different ways different people are managing their battery overflow
yeah so I can still be peak hoarder and not lose xiranite production when capped
meta transfer works even if you dont produce any of it
6 more hours to go, that's the maint start time
its 3 more days no?
yeah but 6 hours of maintenance
ohh okok thank you!
exactly 1/2 my aic factory
tf is a depot bus
in valley 4, it's a permanent upgrade you unlock by talking to andre. It runs along two corners of the main AIC in the hub at max level
ohh im fucking bling
i didnt notice i hadnt finished the side quest
my aic factory is more compact than new york traffic at rush hour
that thing you see here. you can place Depot unloaders/loaders there as material input/output other than the PAC

except in the valley 4 version, you won't be able to move it around, and you can only place on one side of it
mines kinda nice looking I tried
@olive basalt not super compact
but compact enough
aite lemme show mine
this bad boy produces 12 sc and 6 yazen a&3 yazhen c
yeah? overflow protection?
what do you mean
i didnt yet
that has yet to happen
the main thing i shouldnt cap out on is yazhen a
if i do that then i dont get enough sewage
i guess you might have started out later in wuling
this my factory
its a start
you just unlocked bus unloaders
it isnt
i dont know what i am looking at
yea
controlled chaos (it gets the job done)
currenlty makin lc batteries and why sint my pwoer increasinf from 350?
you gotta send them to the generator
tf is a generator
Thermal bank
so i just send it to thermal bank
ok, so it does reset when you go offline
but it doesnt if you are online
interesting
wait, really? If it clogged, you resolve the issue, go offline, it reboots itself?
ah, wish I knew to rescue the 1.5k lol
I need some help, I'm using this blueprint to make yazhen syringes but the Reactor Crucible isn't pushing the liquid into the filling unit
Copy pasted this factory, soon ran out of battery, is there anywhere that im missing?
power it back up and see what doesn't move
Grab some batteries from valley 4 then see what is halting your wuling battery production
these 2 arent working?
no powder
Check if your producing the yazhen/jincao powder to feed into the crucible
you need to feed water into the planting unit to produce them
yeah that seems like it could be the culprit yahzen bottle line backs up into cuprium refiner, choking out sewage supply for xircon for battery
These 2 arent working as well?
are u guys still buying stocks in valley?
Yea, especially with the new Decors 🗿
why not 🤷 doesn't take long to check, and is OK even if you forget to check for a couple days
I don't bother checking sell prices anymore because that's time consuming, just holding since we have nothing demanding that bill income
how do you slow down battery delivery to thermal bank?
if you're feeding directly from the packaging unit, that's easiest
what battery are you feeding and what power output do you want?
Use splitters and convergers
hc batteries. about 2 to 3k would be nice since i'm replacing factories to produce more stuff
Using website : dige cn
Is what mostly do to check the arrangement for splitter/converger to use.
hc batteries are 1.1k each, and base power is 200
so integer feeding two or three banks gives you 2.4k and 3.5k
if you want something in between, you can do two and a half for 2.95
pkg unit --> 4 lines out
one line goes to depot
two lines go straight to two separate banks
one line split in half, feed half to bank and half to depot
notice that it needs to be four lines out from the packaging unit with one of them split in half, not 5 lines out
and this is assuming that your packaging unit is fully fed
as for the explanation, batteries are easiest to think about in terms of the delivery interval in seconds, rather than feed rate in units per minute
packaging unit produces one every 10 sec
bank consumes one every 40 sec
so by splitting the output 4 ways, you are feeding each line once every 40 sec
then by splitting one of the lines in half, you feed each half every 80 sec
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
so your factory toggles between 3.5k power for 40 sec, then 2.4k power for 40 sec, continuously bouncing up and down.
If your power need is under 2.95k, although you'll see the insufficient power warning, it'll never drain below a certain amount and will always fill back up to full
Doing fully from depot a lot better and saver.
Coz in case ur production bugged/lagged/interrupted the energy supplies to thermal will be ruined if directly from packaging.
Resulting in factory died.
Just use website dige cn to generate the pattern.
true
Soo... The expanded crucibles can help to minimize the factory size for the Xircon stuff now?
most likely, yes.
^
Since fluid works outside of the AIC Area, I'll probably just start making the Factory outside, then make the feeding conveyors in the AIC Area (since outpost have small area than the main one, unless I tube it way back to Wuling City)
if you need to input from belt then can't do it outside
Yup, probably have to melt the Cuprium with the new Acid piss and then I could bring it outside the AIC Area
I'm currently traveling abroad for 2 weeks so I hope upgrading the factory on Samsung ultra with stylus won't be too painful
the battery production is on the main hub and i'm trying to do the additional power on the power plateau which is the primarily the sandleaf factory
Thats not a problem coz all of them share energy consumption.
It count globally for all places in v4.
U can place all thermal in main aic it will still work fine.
The point is directly connect it to the aic or depot unloader.
Not from packaging unit directly.
Goodluck on your travels
this is what i've got so far. the industrial masterpiece on the top right is me figuring out before asking.
What is your total energy consumption from the pac menu?
How much energy u are aiming to keep?
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i don't know how much will be left after i replace the factories using blueprints, so i'm making extra just in case so it doesn't fizzle out and it all dies and goes to 200 lmao
if it makes sense
Ah.. Then u don't need to adjust like that first..
Ah- the new crucible has 100 power consumption, I think it's better to have 2 Expanded Crucibles that has an output of 15/min Xircon than to have an extra crucible to make it 30/min Xircon to save up atleast 50 power from the crucible
yo plz claim your mail, operational manual and crafting manual
wait wait I was just trimming my medals why was the mod called?
Place like 3-4 extra thermal, supply like 2 thermal for extra energy.
Then use the bp.
If it still red, directly supply the third thermal.
Repeat until it is enough energy.
A bot came in with mr beast stuff
The usual spam.
oh its mista beast again ayt ayt
I play only on phone. The interface is really strong; the only time I've ever felt second-class is using jet drone.
You might find that it's easier with touch than stylus
No, this is full production
because purifying unit allows for recovery of inert xircon effluent into xircon effluent, a single xiranite liquification & reaction with sewage is enough to supply the 2xircon
initial charge with partial sewage, then use the sewage from the 2xircon reaction as an internal loop
send inert xircon out to purifier, bring it back in as input
If reactor v2 were only able to produce half the xircon (solid) output, it would be worse to cram all into one reactor than to use one big, one small (where the 2xircon effluent reaction is a separate small reactor)
because one big, one small would be 150 power, whereas two bigs would be 200
Trueee, I didn't notice that you could use the purifiying unit to recycle the inert effluent, my bad
no worries! They breezed by it, wasn't mentioned at all, just showed up in the background as they were yapping about something else
game changer as it doubles our effective output from xira
but also potentially means we're gated on ferrium or originium
True, I hope there'll be more Originium/Ferrium ore node on the newer map, specially when HC Wuling Batteries Releases
We can only hope...
If there are no new nodes, the max possible (if they give us max development lv this patch, and assuming that max dev lv = all rich vein like v4) from existing nodes is 120 ferr and 640 ori
those numbers line up to exactly four SC battery lines
Does the SC Battery consumes 240/min of Originium?
nope
it consumes 400 to 480
4 lines of dense ori, which are 2 lines of ori each = 8 lines ori
8x30 = 240
for one output stream of sc battery, that is
I couldn't imagine HC Wuling Batteries having 5 lines of dense Originium, or we'll be cooked
so...yeah, there had better be some new ori nodes
I remain skeptical that we'll get batteries this patch but I'd be happy to be proven wrong
Maybe same ori but using heavy xiranite to make heavy xircon like..

The making of heavy Xiranite is the same right, but with a different liquid?
2 xiranite + 1(?) xircon effluent
most likely 1... but two adjacent scenes in the video appear to show different things
So far only prediction from Livestream image.
Not sure what the real recipe and composition be like.
in this patch, xircon effluent is effectively half a xiranite line
feel free to judge for yourself
Which is true since mixing liquid Xiranite and Sewage brings both effluent and inert
first two are the same shot from diff angles, you can see a single pipe flowing xircon eff into the skyforge from the reactor, with no pipe logistics
whether it's being fedthrough extra xircon effluent from another reactor? we cannot see
the last image is the conflicting scene, just before those two pans
the xircon eff directly from reactor and the purified xircon eff (from reactor's inert stream) are combined and fed downward
there is clearly a skyforge right there, with two lines of xira going in
pessimistically, that could suggest 1/s (double) fed to skyforge. Or maybe it's split there and the other half fed to something else. Or maybe it's not headed to the skyforge at all
The crucible reactor has sewage, liquid Xiranite and Effluent, can't tell if it's using the inert or not (probably it's using the Effluent one)
Having 8 sky forges in the 1.2, 4 for of which is feeding in the others 2 sky forges for the heavy, while the other 2 probably will be used as liquid Xiranite to use for the sky forge aswell
We'll be having 1 spare sky forge since Purifiying exists now
correcting myself based on this (thanks for the catch!!),
if: no new ori, existing veins maxed, and no hc battery, i.e., 120 / 640 is our resource mix for the next patch,
it would be enough for 2 SC battery lines and 1 LC battery line
2 SC battery eats 2 xira, 8 dense ori (16 ori), 2 ferr.
1 LC battery eats 2 xira, 3 dense ori (6 ori).
2+2 = 4 xira
16+6 = 22 ori (660/min) or 11 dense ori (330/min)
2 ferr (60/min) leaves another 60 for hetonite or yazhen c
dense ori can be can be metatransferred at 1 cost, so 1500/hr or 25/min
equivalent to 50/min ori, so our resource mix with metatransfer is equivalent to 690/min raw ori or 345/min dense ori
enough to cover 330/min
^if you do this, you won't be able to do two full skyforges of heavy
besides the 4 allocated to batteries per above, would have to be 3 making base xira, one making heavy, since we said xircon is like half a xira (2.5 consumed per heavy)
Making 1 heavy Xiranite factory is much better I think, we currently don't need it except for making heavy liquid Xiranite
I hope Cryston bottles will be a use here, since it describes it can hold acid stuff
Yeah, that's my guess too for 1.2. And then assuming 1.3 brings HC battery based on heavy xira
There's an increase to the forge limit in 1.2?
Yes, 8 max. 12 mentioned as the future max.
Well, the rebuilding part is in the Xircon Factory, as well as the production of new components
It does look kinda expandable, just have to move my battery production line outside of my AIC
Ah- ~~forgot about the new components stuff... ~~
Expanded crucible made me feel things ngl
I plan to shunt all xiranite production to sky king flats
Mine is hella barren rn 
Fruit shared an amazing 7 forge design
that leaves a lot of room for flexibility in how you use your main AIC space
Holy crap that is madly impressive
Agreed. I tried like hell when designing my 6 forge layout and could not figure out how to be efficient enough for a 7th
not only that, but also it's neat and organized
My only problem is that I'm not used to leaving unutilized spaces between facilities
I have a tileable 4 forge design which is 25 by 55, meaning if i stack 2 i would just need to remove 1 layer of forge
if you opt for 6 instead, you can route them all to AIC and avoid the stash power
its basicallly impossible to have unused space
no*
I'm stuck with designing stuff this way 
I have 4 sky forge in my output, can potentially have 5 if I removed the farm and rerouted them to protocol stash
belt is what eats your space, so yeah, you want to colocate
Why is it that when this runs out of liquid xiranite, it switches to Xircon Effluent? I thought the sewage would just pass thru. I don't want it to combine with anythiing
you can fill one of the slots with something useless to take up the space
this was my attempt and when I got to 6 I kinda gave up, couldn't pack anything tightly. very sad to look at after seeing fruit's lmao
temporarily
belts too long.
i might take a crack at it later
because the sewage can't pass through, always check so the sewage not get clogged
also, the reason is because when xira is low, the slot becomes "empty" while still having xira which kinda lets it like shadow produce another recipe. Fixable by filling the extra slot with filler
Here's my blueprint code for this EFO011946AeAuEU2830O7.
Asia server though
Let me try. I got the blueprint online, so I was hoping it would just work, you know? lol
what is that reactor intended to do?
xira liquification only, with sewage passthrough?
removing the extra slot means it wont be able to make effluent since it needs 2 slots, simple as that
Yes
Can we start saving outpost stocks now for the update?
In about 4 hrs for NA server only
tomorrow, apparently
Ah, thanks!! It's working now!
patch updates are sync'd, it's mid patch event start times that aren't
improvised fix, lol
i dont use sewage passthrough
Yeah, I'm bad at building, so II use other people's. Sewage is now running out though, so not sure what to do there
last bill clear in 3hrs 5mins
anyways stop selling 3h+however long you feel like you want to spend on update to unlock new stuff
thank you!
OH, it's because the machine is clogged
Ah so we can start saving in 3hours
and for any NA folks sleeping then, you can just stop now and do a small amount of trade-in later to align the outpost bills to maint end
Well, it's actually 71 hours and a half or something
depend on hg though, if extended MT then you're gonna get shafted
Oh.... Damnit. My depot storage is full. That's why it's not producing anymore...
yeah, I prefer a little buffer to be safe, even if they've been good with previous maint
1hr buffer should be good enough
Agree
bill clear is only if youre overcapped anyways no?
or is that smt else
Not sure if i get what you mean, i was asking regarding saving outpost stock bills so you'll have it full after the update
Well yeah you need 71 hours something
I was editing my layout to start making SC Wuling battery. My power cut out midway. 😭
Holy was it hard to restart
So safe to just start saving it 3 days before the update
And it's saying 2d left on rossi banner so i assume we can start saving today
you didnt have any other battery in stock? Worst case you can move some HCs from v4 to jumpstart it
you can do that? 😭 I was turning off my mining rigs to make it under 200 power
I give up. I'm finding a new blueprint. This one doesn't work
not that it's any consolation now, but did you see? they showed as a future QoL feature an option to temporarily get infinite power after an outage to help rebuild
idk I just built everything before powering it on with v4 batts, do ppl really keep 0 batts in both depots or sth
i mass trasport HC using backpack trasnfer before making layouts cause i know it takes hours just to make a layout

like 1 stack, or just drop 20 orig thermal banks or sth
I made SC Valley Battery in Wuling in my 1st visit

Finally. I have SC Wuling batteries and Cuprium components
The new components needs the heavy Xiranite right?
presumed so because it's on a 2second output instead of 10second output, and because they were mentioned near each other, but no direct information given
Ngl, after the 1.2 update, I just wanna go straight to factory building than completing the story
one of us
one of us
just finished making 1 sc factory. time to make 1 more
That's half a sc no?
the cursed single reactor
it's 1.2 prep
the right side "reactor" is a purifier, and the left side "reactor" with an extra row at the bottom is reactor v2
Insanity
the input pipe should be water, since you only need to preload maybe half a sewage
if you input sewage you will clog
just spill out a bottle in the conduit for the first time
^
i cant join eff and water in one place so imma combine sewage and eff
yeah if it has 50 sewage inside it will not produce the final xircon due to output limit, since sewage is already self-sustaining inside

you are already producing the exact amount of sewage from the xircon reaction, and using it to react with liquid xiranite
bro we need sewage
just to start
just to kickstart to react with xiranite
the 2xircon formula gives your sustaining sewage
youre right
i swear
there, the xiranite input added
i just keep tweaking my current factory
even tho i know ima just delete it next patch
cursed concept
unless... instead of looping, ill just use inert xircon for heavy xiranite
use the inert xircon from the new map lmaooo
just added an extra priorty belt
and use ur current inert right now (in 1.1)
but the new map doesn't release until May 14

the one with the great wall of sewage, that is
pool is ready for acid
lmao
Ur trying to destroy heritage relics underground..
Factory got sealed..
are we getting HC wuling battery next update? 😭
ngl, im expecting since we have 8 forges. 2 xiranite goes to hc batteries(no loop) making inert to xircon eff, making 2 of them. it means it takes every single forge just to make 60/min heavy xiranite.
weird ahhh xiranite overflow protection
making sure xiranite production stays at 120
thanks for showing this, my "xicon" production is always clogged because there's not enough inventory slots in the reactor crucible. we need at least 10-12 or so including 2 conveyors slots. I was wondering if this was an issue...
Hello, i just came back from a break to this game. whats the new stuff in factory?
in the current factory, you need a dedicated reactor for each reaction in the xircon chain, unfortunately.
you can have some cross-usage, like yazhen solution in the same xiranite solution reactor
from 1.0 to 1.1? SC wuling battery and new ore "cuprium" in the 3rd map of wuling
1.2 patch is in three days so there will be a bunch more changes shortly




