aic-factory

[crude nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039533267390578728/1402751701546434772/32ef26689de9e3a29c19d7d0084871e5167378770.gif

[marble yarrow]

its not inert, you can actually see the difference

[crude nebula]

Its 3 days before stop selling item to outpost guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879667304718282805/1420542952509280397/1758754205848.gif

[keen river]

ym, how have you computed it 🤔

it takes 3 days for tangtang to fill completely doesnt it

and 1.2 drops in 4 days or so

[sharp pier]

oh i thought this was gen chat oops

[crude nebula]

This guy done the calculation yesterday

[royal eagle]

What if we already have 2 mil ?

Wht is the point of not selling?

[keen river]

stocking up the outpost lets you advance it to next tier faster

and you dont really lose anything from doing it

[void owl]

help, why is it producing continously when the bluck stuff stays at 0?

[crude nebula]

Most people might only be able to start updating the game after working hours, its not include some mandatory story line you must complete before fully work on your factory

[marble yarrow]

39.6 hrs from until we stop

[upper fiber]

magic

[sharp pier]

oh that happens to me at V4, at 79,999

the production "continues" and u see stuff from the belt continue to move but nothing actually happens

[void owl]

making xiranite from thin air

[bright zodiac]

yes, exactly magic

every magician show you

[crude nebula]

Still 48 hours for me, i might already tired from work on friday and cant enjoy the story

[bright zodiac]

" sleight of hand "

[upper fiber]

bro inputting 2 carbon powder and voila... magic

[bright zodiac]

it happened so fast, they do magic trick to your eyes, and you cant see it

[void owl]

i just hate that water conduits dont work on wifi

[crude nebula]

Its because the time the output goes out, 2 input goes in without delay

[void owl]

when i move my conduits they just turn off

[upper fiber]

1.2 wifi on

[crude nebula]

The fixed it on next patch

But only inside PAC

Iirc

[bright zodiac]

yea, they did said it

[upper fiber]

why would i put conduit inside..

[royal eagle]

It should be everywhere

[void owl]

so builds dont look messy

[royal eagle]

Not specified

[void owl]

we need prograable protocol stach too

*progrmable

to extract mats

[royal eagle]

What are you crafting outside of pac ?

[void owl]

lets see, small self propeld factories

eg xirantite factory, copper parts factory

[marble yarrow]

lmaoo this super-long pipeline actually is worth 3116 of unit storage, so at least 3km

since i emptied it and converted all its contents into bottle

[royal eagle]

Out side of pac you can't place any facilities

[crude nebula]

You really count them all?

[sterile stratus]

how long can pipe extend

[sterile stratus]

you can just dump in some liquid containers and count

[crude nebula]

Just add splitter you can extend it as much as you want

[marble yarrow]

i just put a filling unit in my base and has an item counter

[sterile stratus]

just asking, you also don't want to spam splitter

[void owl]

sub pac?

[keen river]

you cna actually place the fluid based facilities outside of region just fine

and they work fine too

[royal eagle]

You already can place dpot in sub pac wdym bruh

[royal eagle]

Why we need pipeline to new region ?

[marble yarrow]

actually its just for my base

imma use the acid in main AIC

[royal eagle]

Ooh

[marble yarrow]

instead of outpost

[royal eagle]

Ok

So the acid is that area?

[marble yarrow]

yeah its in the new outpost

[royal eagle]

Ok cool

[tall tangle]

if you packed things this tightly, why didnt you take into account space taken by water outlet?

[marble yarrow]

the yellow thing on the left

[royal eagle]

Ooh

[keen river]

where is that map from anyway?

[royal eagle]

Prob stream

[marble yarrow]

ofc it is

[keen river]

ah

yeah i was trying to find it in the stream yesterday but missed that part

funny enough, you can see the cave to 1.2 already, but the entrance is completely invisible

[royal eagle]

Ngl this tester or whoever in company is playing neat

[blissful dragon]

please correct me if I'm wrong, but a full efficiency blue battery needs 3 ori output and 2 ferri output? and 1 full efficiency battery recipe can support 4 thermal bank

[marble yarrow]

yeah thats why i already put my pipe there

https://streamable.com/bcrhmk

behold the cursed piping

[keen river]

i guess this is the way to 1.2 🤔

also those two sub pacs are suuuper close to each other

[marble yarrow]

yeah that one

[keen river]

will be easy to connect them with pipelines if necessary

[fervent lodge]

the logic is like this: recipe gets initialized the moment both ingredients come and starts running
at the end of a run it does "enough ingredients" check, consumes if enough and starts running again

[keen river]

especially if they dont fix the teleport glitch

[blissful dragon]

is there leftover ori or ferri?

[marble yarrow]

i already connected that, going to my main AIC

now im gonna connect test area going to main AIC

since test area gives us xircon effluent via the purification node

[keen river]

i wonder if we should pre-build pipelines across this gap in case the tp glitch is fixed

[marble yarrow]

i guess this one goes to test area

[sterile stratus]

what glitch

[royal eagle]

20ori lft after max output of both bat and capsule in v4

[keen river]

if you are holding the power cable or water pipe, you can teleport and it doesn't break

[subtle finch]

its intended at this point

[blissful dragon]

is there a way to make overflow gate? or like priority input belt? so like making sure all the battery fills the thermal bank first then any leftover is sent to stash. Cause I'm having problem with base dying from fluctuating power

[keen river]

it does look intended but yeah

[subtle finch]

that's just a splitter

[royal eagle]

You really don't need to use all 18 batteries?

[sterile stratus]

split

[void owl]

if i need hyro rig to mine this how do i get it without them?

[blissful dragon]

won't splitter just equally split things? Like let's say I want everything to go left first, then once left belt is full the overflow goes right

[sterile stratus]

and if you are using pwm then fluctuating power is intentional tho

[subtle finch]

once bank gets full, it will go to the only direction that's open

[upper fiber]

it said 'Backpack 8', so you have 8 on your backpack

[royal eagle]

No need of that if you split 4 times one battery will go to each belt so put thermal banks depending on your needs

[upper fiber]

the piss pool is near jingyu valley?

[royal eagle]

4 split is max per packing unit otherwise your factory will not generate power

[keen river]

yes

[subtle finch]

please dont recommend packaging unit feeding 4 banks

[royal eagle]

Why not

[subtle finch]

no buffer

[royal eagle]

Its easiest

[subtle finch]

ive seen many players lost power that way

[marble yarrow]

just depot battery and fetch it for banks in a separate location

[royal eagle]

Its impossible if you don't split more than 4

[sterile stratus]

just take battery from depot

safer

[upper fiber]

only for pro, packaging -> 1 thermal bank

[keen river]

k, im ready for 1.2 👍

[sterile stratus]

and then there's a water source near the next subp*c

so

[royal eagle]

I've been using it since I know and never touched it again

[subtle finch]

there is

[keen river]

its mostly about possibility of feeding the acid or other new stuff back to tangtang's outpost

[marble yarrow]

actually you dont need to fetch that much acid, since when you purify liquid cuprium it also produces acid

[royal eagle]

Thats grat

[upper fiber]

we don't know it is still the same piss or not

what if acid inert

[royal eagle]

We can use 5 pairs of those for long distance

[keen river]

also.. its crooked 😓

need to fix

[subtle finch]

inert acid is just base

[royal eagle]

And they don't need electricity is the best thing about it

[sterile stratus]

then there's no need to do dat right

[marble yarrow]

you can actually see them feeding it back to make liquid cuprium

[keen river]

i wish using the zipline or the vertical zipline thingy wasn't breaking the connection held

[sterile stratus]

what

[keen river]

if you are holding the power cable and enter the zipline, it breaks

there are so many places that i could improve my network if it wasnt a thing :<

[tall tangle]

i assume they wont make something ridiculous like need for pipes all over wuling

[sterile stratus]

yeah true

[upper fiber]

which one

[sterile stratus]

ooh yellow piss vs red piss

[subtle finch]

there's a zipline checkpoint tech

[marble yarrow]

they reused the acid from the purifier

[keen river]

thats neat but tha feels even more illegal than the teleport trick lmao

[subtle finch]

i wouldn't hate conduits if they just let us store fluids in the depot

[keen river]

yeah

i guess thats why the separation unit thing even exist for, but its so yank to use it

you would waste 4 depot slots to transfer 0.5 liquid :<

[void owl]

how to pipe 1 water pump to 3 users oyutside of pac?

[keen river]

same way as you would do in pac

just place the splitter

[royal eagle]

There is orange piss as well

We have rainbow

[wispy grove]

theres 8 crucibles, 6 acid pipes come from the pool, and 2 will get looped

[sick basin]

Yellow piss
Orange piss
Red piss(should see a doctor)

[wispy grove]

black piss

[pulsar cypress]

You mean from pump to mining rig?

[void owl]

yeah

[pulsar cypress]

Use pipe lines or conduit.

If the pipe not long enough, connect a pipe splitter/converger first..
Then continue with pipe again.

[pulsar cypress]

Like this. 1 pump - 1 pipe - 1 pipe splitter < 3 pipes each to a mining rig..

[void owl]

there is a crime taking place in this pic

[solid quiver]

period

could be the officials don't know how to use AIC and build some bs for the stream

[crude nebula]

blood piss

[marble yarrow]

is this shi correct

[wispy grove]

thats uhh

[pulsar cypress]

[wispy grove]

make it cuprium eff redder a bit

[pulsar cypress]

There's 2 red color type..
Need to differentiate.. °-°)b

[marble yarrow]

idk if its really required to use expanded crucible here due to the acid

but they said the formulas are same for the normal and expanded reactor

[wispy grove]

welp you did it yeah

[pulsar cypress]

Probably related to the slot of items needed?
Like need 6 slots for 6 different type of items.

[marble yarrow]

idk why they used 100 power for just liquid cuprium

[wispy grove]

its per facility🥀

[pulsar cypress]

Coz in the Livestream the slot kinda looks full?

[marble yarrow]

i mean, they just use it to react for acid+cuprium

[wispy grove]

they have a million energy

they dont give af if they waste it

[marble yarrow]

literally just this 3 inside

[wispy grove]

yeah but it can still only make 1 drop/2 secs

thats why they need 4

i think we can separate every crusbile

each crucible have their recipeon their own

i think the 5 crucible of sc battery will stay that way

and use cuprium eff to make another

[pulsar cypress]

Probably there's item also at the image below it.
But like, let the player figure it out later.
Not shown yet.

[wispy grove]

our current sc battery have 5 crucibles
cr 1and 2 only uses 1 input and output pipe. we can squeeze the recipe there

but, the 3rd and 4th crucble cant do that cause it uses 2 output pipes

so,we gonna use 1 crucible to combine solid xircon and xircon eff instead

[pulsar cypress]

Like the top one have 5 liquid
1 yellow
2 different red
2 different black

The below one 4 liquid
1 blue
1 yellow
2 different red

[wispy grove]

im not sure if i cooked that one

[wispy grove]

dont be decieved on the blue one

[keen river]

#1492888446845321338 message let me promote an AIC feature request

[wispy grove]

theyre just there

[marble yarrow]

that isnt an indicator of whats inside it

[wispy grove]

[pulsar cypress]

Eh.. Isnt it indicates what inside?

[wispy grove]

you know what. we have testing area to make xircon eff

[marble yarrow]

not 100% of the time

[wispy grove]

why we stressing this shi

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

1000 sewage = 1 xircon eff...

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc me check my battery plant and med AC, the crucible tube fits what it make inside..

[marble yarrow]

its da fokking sewage again

[calm scarab]

Is that yellow liquid sulfur?

[pulsar cypress]

Pisss..

[upper fiber]

diabetic piss

normal piss

[keen river]

yellow liquid should be sulfuric acid, but it might be a different version of it in the factories tbh

wouldnt be suprised if it needs to be refined somehow

[pulsar cypress]

Normal piss..
Lack drink piss..
Bloody piss..

[calm scarab]

Metal corroding piss

The purification node is interesting. Seems to be world exclusive and need pipes to transport there.

[keen river]

yeah

[upper fiber]

dw, we have global passive 'conduit' to help, and it is free

[keen river]

i wonder how far that purification facility will be from the AIC too

[calm scarab]

Still waiting for the moment when we can load sewage & all the other liquids besides clean water & xiranite to spray

[upper fiber]

it is near jingyu

[keen river]

it might be in that gray building on the top i guess, then its just right next to it

[calm scarab]

Aethullu new mobs... yeah the mobs & their tentacles reminds of cthullu & shit

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

i have to make the new stuff on new subpac it seems

[calm scarab]

Ardashir grand scheme is to summon Cthullu to destroy Wuling

[pulsar cypress]

Yea.. New stuff only there close to the pee pond..

[upper fiber]

why endfield not building toilet for them

[pulsar cypress]

Soo.. We need to tinker the bp in subpac space size - the pac..

[calm scarab]

No point guessing now, we will find out in 5 days.

[keen river]

there is a lot that can possibly affect how things will work

[pulsar cypress]

Except ur piping the pee till main aic..

[keen river]

like, do you need sewage from copium processing in the new recipes

if so, you will need to move red ore processing to that subpac

[calm scarab]

New sub AIC in the new version

[keen river]

but then you dont have sewage for your t2 batteries

a lot of things might change once the 1.2 releases, looking forward to it

[upper fiber]

we should get new cup ore mine nodes

[pulsar cypress]

That also will be depending on will the battery plant stay 12/min or reduced to 6/mins coz we gonna need the xiranite for new bp..

[calm scarab]

Interesting how the production is going to be more restrictive to specific AIC areas. Dealing with liquids, unless you want to use filling unit, send to inventory, then use separation unit.

[marble yarrow]

wait is this shi doable

[upper fiber]

ask the devs

[pulsar cypress]

[marble yarrow]

great answer

[pulsar cypress]

Dev be like :
Don't ask us, we just randomly place em and take a good photo of it..

[upper fiber]

most stuff are speculation, like the devs maybe trying to screw people by bypassing liquid

[keen river]

inb4 the live factory was staged completely for visual purposes and broke down 5 seconds after camera stopped rolling

[calm scarab]

Im disappointed, how they allowed empty fluid option on liquids that cannot be discharged like the sewage.

They magically disappeared without consequences.

[upper fiber]

nah, chen works hard to clean them

[keen river]

its kinda necessary from gameplay point of view

otherwise you wouldnt be able to scrap the stuff containing sewage

and that would be super pita to deal with

[calm scarab]

More like we, that cleaning event.

[marble yarrow]

looks good

[pulsar cypress]

[calm scarab]

Is that powder cuprium or a new material?

[wispy grove]

Tf?

[marble yarrow]

we have right now

but no usage

[calm scarab]

Time to stockpile XD

[wispy grove]

Calculate. You need 1/s xircon eff to make xircon properly

[pulsar cypress]

So its powder after refining..
Not directly shredding the ore..

[wispy grove]

Funny we need to make the least number of crucibles

[upper fiber]

that passthrough seems like a joke by devs

[marble yarrow]

omg 1 hetonite blueprint

1 pump

[wispy grove]

Why is there cuprium dust in expanded?

Oh nvm

[marble yarrow]

because you need another liquid

[void owl]

is there suach thing as a "bottleing unit"?

[marble yarrow]

yeah, the filling unit

[void owl]

so it takes bottles and fill ems up?

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Called moulding to make bottle
Filling to fill the bottle

[wispy grove]

ngl this is amazing

[void owl]

is this the most complicated thing in the game atm?

[marble yarrow]

probably not, also the sewage+xiranite is one level above that

[wispy grove]

im getting annoyed bro

i can only make L shape belts

[marble yarrow]

yeah sometimes that planner is janky so i quit mid-way

hope they improve

[calm scarab]

Will we ever get lvl 90 equips?

New recipes seems like just variations of existing sets.

[upper fiber]

if you still alive 2yrs later and no WW3

[calm scarab]

The Power creep moment to keep the game alive.

[tawny shadow]

you can process 8 items at once in 1.2?

[marble yarrow]

yeah

expanded crucible, but it uses 100 power

[tawny shadow]

oo nice

wut

if it's 100, it should be 10 slots instead of 8

it feels like a scam

[void owl]

now i know why there is a forge limit

xiranite spawns out of air bruh

just add water

[upper fiber]

uh still in magic delusion?

[calm scarab]

Gated content yeah

Not even half of Wuling lands were unlocked yet.

[void owl]

so i can fit all my forges into 1 sub pac?

[tall tangle]

yes. even when you'll have 8

[pulsar cypress]

Its just wet coal..
So real identity of xiranite is dried algae..

[calm scarab]

Organic gemstone

[dreamy jungle]

Do we already know what we need heavy xiranite for?

[marble yarrow]

currently for hetonite component, and bottle for spray usage

[dreamy jungle]

hm ok, thanks

[pulsar cypress]

Our madam gear set probably..

[upper fiber]

my

[calm scarab]

I really wanted a liquid balloon splash instead of a water gun spray. Throw it & one area of blight is gone so you can walk.

[upper fiber]

the liquid heavy has big splash area

[mint sentinel]

are each subpacs different in a certain way ? like is there a reason to dedicate certain pacs to one kind of products instead of choosing any

[calm scarab]

That was not the case for Valley 4, but its starting to feel that way for Wuling.

[mint sentinel]

what about that other place ?

uhh the park

[calm scarab]

There is absolutely no materials in Valley 4 that are like that. Wuling is kind of because liquids cannot be stored easily, you need bottles to store. Excess liquids are deleted without going into inventory etc.

[mint sentinel]

okie

[calm scarab]

"Kind of" meant you still can use filling unit to store that yellow liquid into bottles, ship to inventory, then in other PACs, output & use separation unit to get that fluid, or you can build very long conduits to reach.

Basically its not as convenient with liquids to move between PACs.

[keen river]

i think the only difference between sub pacs in valley4 is the cost of expansions 🤔

otherwise they are 100% same

[royal eagle]

You can use underground pipes

Wifi

[calm scarab]

Wanting to make that is a personal choice. I prefer not to make unnecessarily long conduits across the world.

[jovial breach]

we're getting 8 forge limit right ?

Or was it 12

[dreamy jungle]

its 8, but will be 12 eventually

heavy xira has to have another purpose than just comps, no way we need so many forges for normal xira

[jovial breach]

Can i even fit 8 in qingyu subpac lol

[dreamy jungle]

maybe if you try, was able to fit 7

[bright zodiac]

tho, we are not making 240/m xiranite, some are needed for heavyX so it might took less space? coz different setup

[void owl]

can you tell the reaction by its colour?

[dreamy jungle]

ye but heavy xira for comps is kind of a waste, so maybe for future batts

[bright zodiac]

the blue is very identical, i will call they the same (in a glance)

[void owl]

isnt Fots limit 4>? how did you cram 7 in there?

[dreamy jungle]

used a website to design

[void owl]

finnaly... wuling batteries... would be bad if they are fed to a shredder

is there xicron gear?

[tall tangle]

only copium for now

[sick basin]

Cuprium and hetonite

Or whatever was the name

[lapis nexus]

i just realized that my factory completely shuts down if my yazhen syringe gets full

[keen river]

you cant do anything about it

[bright zodiac]

dont let it cap

or use the cuprium to make parts and store it, or powder, or bottle

[fervent lodge]

?

[fervent lodge]

i won't improve it if you don't tell me what's wrong lmao

i'm perfectly happy with how it is right now, hence

[wispy grove]

Maybe i suck

How to make more than L belts?

[fervent lodge]

by clicking?

[wispy grove]

Cause i tried dragging

Uhuh but it just becomes permanent

[fervent lodge]

i don't get it

[wispy grove]

Do i need to hold?

When i release my hold it stops from extending

[fervent lodge]

you can hold if you want, you can just click tho

i only use hold to drag from one building to another

[wispy grove]

Lemme try again

[fervent lodge]

is your mouse double clicking by itself or something

[marble yarrow]

actually i last used it pre-1.1 when i was planning the SC batt. i should try again

[fervent lodge]

pre-1.1 was dogshit

it didn't even continue the belts

[wispy grove]

Yeah🥀 i need a new mouse🥀

[fervent lodge]

oh yeah that'll do it

double click finishes the belt

[wispy grove]

But yes it works properly

[fervent lodge]

you can still deal with this even if you always double click tbh

[wispy grove]

I dont know why it double clicks. Even though my mouse just one taps. I sometimes misclick gifs because of it🥀

[fervent lodge]

bad/cheap switch, i know lots of mice die in this way

[tender thistle]

What time are we supposed to do last wuling selling and start hoarding?

[marble yarrow]

wait lemme generate a discord timestamp for that

empty outpost bill, and stop trading exactly at <t:1776140460:F> (adjusted with your timezone)

[fervent lodge]

so exactly tomorrow almost

at this time

[marble yarrow]

wait, i messed the am/pm lmaoo

[wispy grove]

And why?

[marble yarrow]

you'

[wispy grove]

What??

[marble yarrow]

you'll get max bill right after maintenance end

sorry i pressed enter 😭

[wispy grove]

When does that end?

17 right?

[marble yarrow]

<t:1776398400:F>

yes

[tender thistle]

Safety net

[marble yarrow]

they finished 17minutes early in 1.1

gets locked by main quest

[olive basalt]

bro what the fuck

[marble yarrow]

you can actually rig that so it shows flat graph

[olive basalt]

How

[marble yarrow]

just make it so that the 2 banks eat the battery at different times, like, 20 seconds apart

[olive basalt]

So even though it is fluctuating is it actually using 2 most of the time

[marble yarrow]

yeah, its just so that in a 60-second logging window, sometimes 4 is counted

its just the misaligned 40-sec eating and 60-sec logging

[olive basalt]

30 min log says its using 3

[marble yarrow]

anyway, the alternating 4-2 is just 3/min in the long run

[olive basalt]

is there no way to stop getting the power warning when using pwm

[marble yarrow]

maybe future qol update

right now, no option

[olive basalt]

Do you get it when youre in the overworld as well

or only in aic mode

[marble yarrow]

only when you turn on aic mode even outside the aic

Version 1.2 maintenance
On <t:1776376800:d> from <t:1776376800:t> to <t:1776398400:t>

💵 ⏰ Outpost Bill saving timer for Jingyu Level 4

to achieve maximum bill exactly right after maintenance end, and adding 1 hour (mission-locked)
Exact time to empty-out Jingyu Outpost Bills: <t:1776144063:F> (<t:1776144063:R>)
Max Bills you should be having right now: <TBD>
Bills to be generated till maintenance ends: <TBD>

copypasta shi

[olive basalt]

Also with my current factory i can only empty out this much

i cant completely drain out the savings

dunno if that is normal

[marble yarrow]

how much is your yazhen a production rate

[olive basalt]

6

[marble yarrow]

you should actually be selling enough

9 SC + 6 yazhen a

[thorn pike]

i drained the stocks already

now i can smash my factory and rebuild 100%

[marble yarrow]

but its so slow to drain that also

you can only drain 792 bills per hour on that rate

oh wait you have yazhen C

dont worry it will eventually run out

[thorn pike]

nerd moment

🐴

[marble yarrow]

also idk why you need to use 2x SC banks, but you can improve that usage

[marble yarrow]

most people are living on 3400 power and below, with active ziplines. also turrets having batteries in them

just get your HC from valley

1 SC 1 HC lmaoo

[olive basalt]

you can put batteries into ziplines?

[marble yarrow]

no, just turrets

or gunners, whatever are they

[olive basalt]

should i regional transfer HC

[marble yarrow]

no, its very slow

[willow beacon]

the realium answer is to focus more on comfort instead of pointless optimization

optimize when needed, otherwise this is creating annoyance for absolutely no reason

[marble yarrow]

only some people manually transfer through dijiang depot-changing

[olive basalt]

i aint doing all that man

new pwm seems to be using 2

so its fine either way

[marble yarrow]

yeah just pwm it

[olive basalt]

wait this event is already up

[willow beacon]

yeah it’s the prepatch login

they’re doing this every time

[keen river]

we got a mini maint for it yesterday night

you should have gotten few boosters mail for it

[marble yarrow]

1.87 battery/min

[olive basalt]

you the math guy huh

[marble yarrow]

bullying google gemini to give me every splitter config for battery interval from 40 to 1000 seconds

[olive basalt]

im currently using 120

[olive basalt]

how do you even have something for more than 240? it feels like it would just stop working

ah hell no

<@&956153874383781928>

[wary vine]

Those stats are normal considering i'm producing Curpium components 24/7 right?

I mean the Syringe A being 5/min and the Batteries 9/min

[keen river]

yeah

there is not enough copium to max out syringes and components at same time

and then there is not enough xiranite to max out batteries and components at same time

so both will necessarily fluctuate

[wary vine]

okay thank you

[crystal sundial]

is funneling three water sources into an inlet to an outlet going to make me lose water prod like this or nah?

[keen river]

this is fine

but you only need 2 water sources

[sonic summit]

1 pump can support 2 building but 1 pipe and inlet can sustain 2 pump

[tall tangle]

(except mining rigs)

[sonic summit]

SHUSH THAT use difference set of rule

[subtle finch]

unless it's fluid supply unit

[tall tangle]

oh no. i silently hoped that no one says more. spare that person

[rugged lodge]

once you have access to cuprium and xiranite components, is there any reason to make the other types of components?

[gentle sentinel]

For casual, no

[rugged lodge]

do you mean for casual players no? if yes what do hardcore players use the other components for?

[gentle sentinel]

Yea
Doing low level squad or even analyzing them, the range is limitless

[rugged lodge]

huh thanks for clearifying!

[astral spruce]

question is it possible to draw power from the waystones or do i have to make a long ass power line from the pac

[gentle sentinel]

What waystone?

You could only draw power from PAC or SubPAC

[subtle finch]

if the zone have a sub-pac/outpost, just get your power from there

[astral spruce]

those orignum crystals

[gentle sentinel]

Ah no

[astral spruce]

so these planting units do they just make stuff from thin air or do i have to find a node

[subtle finch]

this is how they're usually set up, put like 10 plants in the seeding unit

this is in the tutorials

[gentle sentinel]

I skipped

[astral spruce]

so they make shit out fo thin air

[astral spruce]

.... i dhavent done any just a will and a way

maybe except one and thats becuase the game forced me to do it

[subtle finch]

seeder makes seed, planting makes plant, they need each other 😳

[astral spruce]

so seede create seeds out of thin air and planters used the seeds to eks plants

yea the scifi bullshit in this game never ceeses to amaze me

[fervent lodge]

i mean you usually get multiple seeds from a plant

how do you think agriculture works

😭

[subtle finch]

you need to place the plant in the seeder to start it, so it doesnt come out of thin air , its a multiplying machine

[fervent lodge]

also known as "seeding the production"

[astral spruce]

so if i have one seed it will doubel it to infiity theoreticlaly

[subtle finch]

but my banana is seedless

[tall tangle]

well those stations consume power, so it's little bit less magical

[astral spruce]

wild bananas have seeds but store bought one dont

source - google

[subtle finch]

nice, my only concern is that they showed purification unit handling 4 crucibles instead of 2

prices are pretty high for a monday

[fervent lodge]

i was about to say "isn't it sunday" and then i look at the time and it's 3 am

i have work tomorrow

[orchid pilot]

If you have the farms onsite, no, you cannot fit more than 6 7 skyforge lines into one outpost (unless the new outpost[s] are bigger than sky king flats)

[orchid pilot]

see above

[fervent lodge]

if you bring carbon and sandleaf with depots you can

[orchid pilot]

here is a much cleaner setup than I could produce that doesn't try to shove everything into corners

[subtle finch]

from fruit

[orchid pilot]

DAMN wow!

thank you!!! sorry

[subtle finch]

for now, 7 or 8 xiranite forge layout is not gonna be useful though, since the others will be making heavy xiranite instead

[orchid pilot]

If there's no uses for heavy xira beyond what they stated (exploration) and implied (hetonite component), I think I will just run 1 forge only for conversion to heavy

[subtle finch]

they mentioned you can sell it to the outpost

[magic geyser]

Is it normal that I can't make enough items to trade for wuling stock bills? It seems my skyking outpost is always full of stock bills.

[orchid pilot]

I fully expect that to be 2 stock bill trade in lol

maybe 3

but good point, forgot that

[subtle finch]

if patterns will be the same, every new outpost product is more expensive than the previous

[orchid pilot]

No, you should be clearing it

One of my friends who used an online blueprint had the same issue

[subtle finch]

the margins can be thin, if are using too much power, or making too much comps

[orchid pilot]

we traced it to sewage not distributing as expected after clogging the first reactor and overflowing to the second - it fails to fill that reactor and spills too much into wastewater treatment for some reason

[subtle finch]

the sweet spot seems to be at 10.5 sc bat/min - 1.5 usage.
and as many meds to make up for the difference

[magic geyser]

Currently making 1 comp per min but let me read this chart ty

[uneven aspen]

im using the 2-comp and buying out the outpost just fine i do wonder if 2.5-comp would be enough or not

[tall tangle]

i dunno if it was worth it

[gentle sentinel]

Facility wise, no

[orchid pilot]

omg is this your sc battery stash? lmao

[uneven aspen]

was wondering how but it's looks like it's cause sandleaf production is done offsite

[tall tangle]

never hit that limit. does it count power sticks?

[uneven aspen]

I know in the 1.2 preview that forge will be used with crucibles for something

we can fit 7 xiranite forges(including sandleaf) into the outpost

so xiranite production in 1 outpost is doable assuming it's 7 forges for it or less

😔 maybe 1.2 with the heavy xiranite means the normal forge setups becomes obsolete

[river wadi]

what is heavy xiranite made of

[subtle finch]

im right about my bet, they wont be giving us the same production too many times to just be copy pasting

heavy xiranite takes 2 xiranite + 1 xircon effluent

[gentle sentinel]

Anything you place

[river wadi]

so its 4 forges for 1 heavy xiranite?

[ruby sorrel]

2.25 cuprium comps lands you at about 605/604.8/min income

[subtle finch]

yes, but 7 forges for 2 heavy xiranite, because you can now turn inert to xircon effluent with purification unit

[tall tangle]

welp, i removed many pilons, so it's not that bad then

also saved like very little power and irl sanity

[uneven aspen]

that reminds me, tomorrow is about the time need to stop selling to outpost

[subtle finch]

you can check your limits by placing a bunch of splitters

[uneven aspen]

and maybe throw some batteries into stashes

[subtle finch]

im late to join the hoarding party

[twilit iron]

i may need some help to fill in this gap XD

[light jacinth]

so, I litterally jusy accidentally learned that you can move the AIC itself. God that would have been good to know in the past. The issue is, now I can't put it back to its origional spot

[subtle finch]

EFO0172UEui7875u8OIAi
you're welcome

[fervent lodge]

da heck

[twilit iron]

too long

[fervent lodge]

what if you rotate it

[light jacinth]

actually, looking at it now, if I pick it up, I can't even put it back here at all. I need to back out of the menu to place it back

[subtle finch]

nothing can be done, you need to carry that sub-pac everywhere now

[light jacinth]

it's the AIC in valley pass if anyone else wants to see if it happens to them too

[ruby sorrel]

that error msg looks like it's bugging out and trying to place it at a different elevation for some reason

idt I've seen that other than doing stupid zipline stuff

[light jacinth]

I think I've got it. i think the issue was a character was standing on the pac

[ruby sorrel]

smh just crush the character with the pac

[fervent lodge]

welcome to the hydraulic press channel

[fervent pawn]

i tried making a very condensed cuprium production but i feel like i am missing something

https://i.imgur.com/fg3naTv.png

here is the one i did but it feels like i still have wasted space

[uneven aspen]

same i dont like mine

[fervent pawn]

i have not added in the fitting units yet but

at best i still take up

+2 space on the depot

[uneven aspen]

I get the feeling 1 pylon is doable 😔

[fervent pawn]

i mean i have one pylon here for just the ore itself

[fervent pawn]

can you place the refiners outside of the AIC area?

or wait you probably just have the depots further in

[subtle finch]

well, treatment or conduits can go outside

[fervent pawn]

oh.

that changes things

[ruby sorrel]

we probably want to be doing treatment with the fancy new thing in 1.2 anyways right

[fervent pawn]

if i can place the water treatment outside the aic area then i will definitely condence that further easily

[fervent pawn]

?

[subtle finch]

bro didnt watch the livestream

[fervent pawn]

i don't. i only play the game

[tall tangle]

it may be big, but it looks neat and thats what matters

[orchid pilot]

the bigger question is why are you trashing your sewage

[fervent pawn]

i have no use for it at the moment

and it is a waste product

[orchid pilot]

you're doing >50% components?

[river wadi]

i thought sc wuling batteries need the sewage

[tame sedge]

you only need 2 units of sewage to make 12/min batteries

[subtle finch]

backfeed gang

[ruby sorrel]

I stopped backfeeding cus cricible bug and never changed it back

[fervent pawn]

i don't have xircon so

[subtle finch]

its the opposite for me, backfeed saved me from the crucible bug (the clogging), so i kept it

[fervent pawn]

i could make some, that is correct, but i don't have any at the moment, so i have no use for sewage

[tall tangle]

its hard to believe for some people that some others dont want SCs

[gentle sentinel]

Oooh so that's why

[fervent pawn]

don't want is not the correct word for me. I literally just have not come around to get a factory for them. I got t2 Wuling tech approx 30 min ago and i have been focusing on cuprium

[tame sedge]

oh the fun is just begining

[subtle finch]

max outpost profit is the standard, if you don't at least hit that requirement, then there's no point comparing the difference

[uneven aspen]

max profit is also max outpost exp right?

[fervent pawn]

i have checked the trees and i am seeing that the liquid management is starting now properly

[uneven aspen]

wait nvm me being dumb

[subtle finch]

only if you got tangtang

[uneven aspen]

it's still based off how much you can sell

[orchid pilot]

just rotate wulfgard and I forget who the other one is

lifeng I think

[fervent pawn]

i have actually not used any external resource for this game at least yet

[orchid pilot]

idr who is the one if you don't have lifeng

[subtle finch]

my man, you are in an external resource right now

[fervent pawn]

TECHNICALLY

[uneven aspen]

well techinically maybe they avoiding for 1.2

and know everything for 1.1

already

[fervent pawn]

i more meant tier list, calcs or any of the sort

here i can deliberately avoid most spoilery stuff

and i only talk here to get feedback on my own designs

[tame sedge]

man, i spent a week or so making spreadsheets and optimzing/learning only to hop on to this discord and saw ppl already did it

[uneven aspen]

i mean you can probably easily reuse those spreadsheets

[ruby sorrel]

it's always fun to have your own spreadsheet though

[tame sedge]

i hope I can for 1.2

[river wadi]

the best part of doing everything yourself is you get to understand how all this works so if something goes wrong its easier to fix

[tame sedge]

absolutely

unless is pipes

fk them pipes

[orchid pilot]

wait holy shit the walls are in park map, not rock map?

[ruby sorrel]

but they're just liquid belts

[orchid pilot]

how tf do we use the free xircon then??

[tame sedge]

and belts are just solid fluids?

[fervent pawn]

not a fan of fluid management?

[subtle finch]

wdym by park map/rock map?

[orchid pilot]

Marker Stone and idk the en name for the other one

the subpac was shown to be Marker Stone, right??? double checking...

[tame sedge]

im playing around with sharing fluids in pipes, and I think it works like belts, but no being able to see it move through the pipe makes it hard to understand what's going on

[orchid pilot]

or I guess

"heart repair" station

[fervent pawn]

ah so 2 diff fluids in one pipe? i have not messed with that yet

[subtle finch]

that's where you'd be generating the sewage, so it makes sense

[tame sedge]

it seems like it could be useful to save space, but it's very limited

[orchid pilot]

I thought the factory is in Marker Stone, but the narration says the sewage disposal unlocks with progression in the Park map

[subtle finch]

easier to transport the final product at farther distance than the materials

[keen river]

the new sub pac is right next to the cave in jingu valley

the one where you get washed after raft accident

[orchid pilot]

Yeah, the Marker Stone map

if you go to southwest corner of wuling city, there's a passage where the NPCs already say the map name

[keen river]

yeah

but there is going to be second entrance through the cave

[orchid pilot]

I'm just bamboozled that they seem to be implying (though not saying outright) that the sewage disposal is in the other new map

[keen river]

but right now its blocked with a rock

i doubt the test arena / the other new map will have aic area

probably only some resources

[orchid pilot]

Yeah, I was only expecting one, as they announced in the 1.1 video and they didn't say anything explicitly different during this video

[keen river]

tbh i have no idea whats the plan anymore, it feels like there is still stuff to do in wuling

[orchid pilot]

I'm just concerned that they mention it hand-in-hand with the test area map instead of the marker stone map

[keen river]

but they also announced 1.2 as climax

im just confused

[orchid pilot]

the background here seems like test area

[keen river]

there would be no way to use those in test area

[orchid pilot]

that's what I'm saying lol

[keen river]

yeah

[orchid pilot]

I guess I gotta trust they don't do something completely illogical

but something's not adding up to me here

[keen river]

we will see in three days

but something is definitely weird about whole 1.2

[tame sedge]

there were a few things that didn't add up yeah?

[keen river]

we should get at least like two more maps and some stuff for new operators

i guess its possible we might get another story line in wuling

[orchid pilot]

idk what has been discussed here but acid recycle loop also didn't add up to me

[keen river]

maybe around the new proxy girl

there is a very obvious route to next map in stockade, but that would need to be 1.3, but then how is 1.2 a climax..

[ruby sorrel]

it's climax? I thought 1.2 was stuff starts to happen

[keen river]

they advertise it like this

so im like ??

[orchid pilot]

wtf

[ruby sorrel]

isn't that some stupid AI title on X

[keen river]

reddit ad is like this

and that should be manually entered title

[ruby sorrel]

yeah that's weird

but the EN has been sus in 1.1 promo as well when they said the new gear was "upgrade"

[keen river]

those should be in 1.3, but those are all wuling characters

so no clue how 1.2 can be a climax/finale

unless they start a completely new storyline in wuling, which i wouldnt mind

[winged oriole]

I'm ready for the blockade

[keen river]

ready to dump it once the new tier of tangtang's outpost drops? 😅

[reef crescent]

... I apparently didn't need a bridge to cross pipes somehow

What it looks like

[winged oriole]

You can get pipes to clip all sorts of things

[reef crescent]

I guess if you have different elevation for the water pumps, the pipes themselves might be different heights?
Yeah I know I was just shocked that it didn't happen

[keen river]

it seem to be more forgiving outside of flat aic area

[winged oriole]

Nothing to see here

[uneven aspen]

oh no

[subtle finch]

what if our fluid pump kissed? 😳

[winged oriole]

Time to start placing protocol stashes in the quarry

[river wadi]

what do you need that many stashes for

[orchid pilot]

Man I thought about stashing in the wild but I'm already despairing at the thought of backpacking 80k back to wuling

Let alone going on an expedition to retrieve more

[uneven aspen]

to store 3+ days of sc batteries

[river wadi]

and why do you need that many batteries

[orchid pilot]

I started doing batteries and now am tearing the stashes and transporting to v4 to store inert xircon instead

[uneven aspen]

to level up outposts

[orchid pilot]

I realize it's gated by ferrium but I have close to full depot

[orchid pilot]

There's been basically no aic content for a month, so for people who want to tryhard, the only thing left to do has been plan how to stockpile to rush all 1.2 upgrades immediately

Couple that with the natural battery overflow and...

Yeah, lots of stashes

[uneven aspen]

yeah region development level can change ore yields so leveling up outposts asap is to get that done so i can do the aic once and then forget

[winged oriole]

I just move things bit by bit while I ship all the originium products over to v4

[uneven aspen]

also no downside selling 3 days later because stockbill capacity takes 3 days to max

so you're just "wasting" outpost prosperity exp

also all optional though

[upper fiber]

wonder if 1.2 will let us transfer to v4, no way need to wait till reg lv12 for that

[orchid pilot]

Oh TRUE I totally forgot about that

[winged oriole]

wouldn't surprise me if we don't get Wuling regional transfer until 3rd region

[keen river]

yeah

and probably it wont allow transfer to v4, only to new region

unless they plan to expand v4 somehow, it has at least one spot for new map

[void owl]

What is piss and red piss used for in the game?

[orchid pilot]

Oh but wuling battery probably wouldn't be in the selection menu for v4 to wuling

Damn

[orchid pilot]

The new acid stuff from 1.2 stream?

[keen river]

yellow fluid is acid, red one is probably dissolved copium

whatever it was called

[void owl]

Yeah

How do i make them?

Do i react copper with water?

Doe do inmake acid?

[subtle finch]

are you sober?

[sterile stratus]

cu+h2o=smh

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[subtle finch]

i keep forgetting this exist

[sterile stratus]

same here imma do that

[upper fiber]

people using skyport...

[winged oriole]

I just have a bookmark folder I can open all on in my PC web browser

Endfield is first because it takes the longest to load

[fervent lodge]

imma automate this

[subtle finch]

gimme the script

[crude nebula]

I use the app widget and "routine" reminder to do it lol

It directly send me to the daily page without clicking so many button

[orchid pilot]

the acid is harvested from the wild (there is a pool of it shown near the new outpost)
it reacts with copper powder
if you're curious what it's based on, it may be ferric chloride (referenced in the item description for cryston bottle)
(kudos to a rando bilibili aic theorycraft video from early april for this prediction coming true)

piss + red powder = red piss
keep making a bunch of red piss until you have enough to feed to purifier
purifier turns it into an orange soda stream and a piss recycle stream

orange soda plus ferrium powder (maybe) = new premium copper "hetonite" (like steel and cryston over ferrium and amethyst)
as for what it's used for, rn we only know components for new gear sets

[river wadi]

are new gear sets gonna be higher level than 70 or just alternatives

[orchid pilot]

just alternative

[oblique kelp]

What is the most amount of stuff you can make in valley 4? i know it includes hc, Buckflower c/citrome c and buckflower a/citrome a.

[orchid pilot]

3 battery lines, 3 A med lines. I always forget the exact number of C lines because it gives no add'l points over amethyst bottle trade

looks like 4 lines of C med

so 18, 18, 24/min of v4hc, A, C. In terms of which flowers to pick, I believe buck A and cit C give you the most options of where to trade in

[subtle finch]

the 2/3 origocrust

[orchid pilot]

OH lmao thank you yes

🤣

weaponize that 20/min ori

[winged oriole]

This is fine

[valid fox]

Probably the usual, stuff it with xiranite for HC battery, make parts of it for the new towers, maybe bottles out of it for new yazhen syringes etc.

[winged oriole]

Reduced my farm-mine setup from 3 tanks to just 1 today by not doing the splitter ordering like a monkey

[valid fox]

What in god's name...

[winged oriole]

Before picture

[keen river]

I have no idea what is the purpose of that unholy abomination before the water tank

[winged oriole]

3 spliters and some convergers to make sure the hydro miners get enough input always

[keen river]

Those sprinkles run like once every 3 hours tho

[winged oriole]

What if I'm remodeling the farm three times in a row tho

muh originium output

anyways 3x safety margin should be good

surely

The mining will continue even if the factory crashes momentarily

[ruby sorrel]

I was going to water my farm with jingyu spare water but unfortunately don't have enough pipe logistics cap to do it

[void owl]

finnaly... wuling batteries... would be bad if they are fed to a shredder

[river wadi]

i dont think that does anything

[subtle finch]

its a reference to that tangtang meme

[orchid pilot]

I would have thought this, but I would also expect them to show any semblance of battery or its production line somewhere if they're introducing it
absolutely no packaging unit in sight, except a brief glimpse of one running yazhen or jincao A while talking about water QoL
My guess is that a-level battery & other highest value trade-in items are delayed to 1.3

[subtle finch]

yeah, we're still in the science park stage

sandleaf 2.0 please

[ruby sorrel]

I'm hoping we do get batteries and instead wuling production is more developed beyond make battery power factory and sell the extra like it's v4 with extra steps

[sonic summit]

isnt that just acid in next update?

[subtle finch]

no

[sonic summit]

i wonder how much we can play with it in next update

[orchid pilot]

what else could they do lol

[sonic summit]

man can wait to make a new factory

[ruby sorrel]

invent more random recipes for us to sell

[subtle finch]

i want it to dissolve clothes in sprinkle mode

[ruby sorrel]

bomb making was kinda nice if it actually mattered

[sonic summit]

man i came to endfield for my first 3d game and joke, stay for factory gameplay instead

[ruby sorrel]

special turrets that need aic produced ammo?

lots of random stuff they could do

[valid fox]

Well then we're producing 24 batteries/m

[orchid pilot]

I think it would take a pretty fundamental shift to make the optimal endgame something other than "make the highest value combination of items allowable given the resource input constraints"

[ruby sorrel]

highest meaningful income if you aren't stashing things for future updates is like 80% of max anyways

[subtle finch]

the obvious issue is more than half the playerbase probably hates the aic, that's why we'll never achieve greatness

[void owl]

is yanzen syruine the only thing that heals % health that can be automated?>

or was it jincao drink

[sonic summit]

i wonder when we will use cryston parts and bottle

it can be used to store corosive water right?

[ruby sorrel]

what if acid melts steel bottles

[orchid pilot]

Yes, it's likely exactly the acid we're getting now

[subtle finch]

what if jet fuel melts steel beams

[sonic summit]

time to use cryston

[orchid pilot]

Algoinde can probably tell us upon preload whether pkg unit can fill cryston bottles with acid lol (& by extension, unable to fill steel bottles)

[sonic summit]

the item description of cryson bottle is that it can hold corosive liquid, so finaly we can get purple mines in wuling ?

[valid fox]

Meta transfer time

[pulsar cypress]

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[wispy grove]

guys

[pulsar cypress]

[vale topaz]

[glass cedar]

zip delivery route #1 complete

[pulsar cypress]

Now add 2 more zips at south to the 2nd delivery place..

[glass cedar]

i'll do it later

i need to mid max my wuling factory first

[vale topaz]

3 more routes, the academy, farm near aic and npc near take picture missiom center

[paper magnet]

I just do the circle Zipline route

[orchid pilot]

academy is just one extra zip
qi lun is like... 3, or maybe two if you branch off the yan ning branch instead of separately off the main
yan ning is the obnoxious one

[paper magnet]

Made more sense back when I was actively collecting rare mats but now i CBA to tear down

[ruby sorrel]

I did my yan ning off recycling so it's long... but I'm kinda lazy to shuffle my zips around for maaaybe -1

[subtle finch]

ive been theorycrafting the next optimal way we'll make sc bat
really hoping there's no new battery next patch
any thoughts?

filling unit is taking the spot of the expanded crucible
and reactor is the purification unit

[cyan forge]

There has to ve a new bat

Otherwise it'd be weird if all we can make is hetonite gears

[wispy grove]

our bps gonna take weeks again

[subtle finch]

they said heavy xiranite will be sellable, im guessing there would be hetonite parts too for the new towers
i have more reasons to believe there's no new battery for now

[ruby sorrel]

I mean xiranite is sellable too

so are steel parts in v4

[orchid pilot]

I think crucible v2 is 5x6 footprint

[wispy grove]

does hetonite part needs 2 fittings or nahh?

[orchid pilot]

the new batt was all over the 1.1 video, no such coverage this time

[vale topaz]

wonder if 1 crucible 1 xircon will be possible....
under impression probably reduced from 5 to 3.
in case xircon will be involved heavily for another product line

[cyan forge]

Hmmm interesting

[subtle finch]

oh, it is

[ruby sorrel]

what if they already showed it in the main aic but we just can't understand the layout

[wispy grove]

thats if you put liquid xira and sewage instead

[orchid pilot]

unless they move battery prod from pkg unit to a different facility

[vale topaz]

doubt it, more likely standard 1:1 formula.
will be surprised if the bottle ( molding ) use 1:1 rather usual 2:1

[ruby sorrel]

idk can you even tell what they're doing here

[orchid pilot]

pkg unit literally appears only once in all the pans, and it's just making regular cuprium yazhen or jincao A, I forget the flower liquid colors

[cyan forge]

But if we r making heto oarts just to sell em...

I wonder how worth it it'll be

[ruby sorrel]

there's a packaging looking thing in the left by the aic core

[subtle finch]

I think they just wanna showoff 12 forges

[ruby sorrel]

or is that filling

[cyan forge]

If not battery

There should at least be meds

Piss meds

[wispy grove]

i mean if i have hetonite, i need one refining and one fitting or goes fittingdirectly?

[orchid pilot]

shouldn't need to refine hetonite, just feed it to fitter

[ruby sorrel]

direct fitting they show this

[orchid pilot]

oh yeah that shot where they had two lines feeding fitter and one to stash

[vale topaz]

let's say 1 crucible, can the crucible understand thet the input sewage will used for production and there will be sewage waste.
if you set sewage input and output, afraid the crucible just pass the sewage rather use the sewage as production process.

[orchid pilot]

I think the problem with this is needing double of the same recipe

[subtle finch]

1/3 goes to gearing right? or is it the part itself

[wispy grove]

what? nahh theres no sewage output

[ruby sorrel]

there's buffer time in the building or passthroughs would never work

[wispy grove]

it stays there directly

to make another xircon

[ruby sorrel]

but if you're 1 crucible xircon nothing comes out anyways

[wispy grove]

[ruby sorrel]

at most you'd have a regular crucible supplying extra xira eff

[vale topaz]

under impression the usual.
the dev stream only said it will be used for new component, no idea if require refining and fitting or just straight into gearing unit

[wispy grove]

imma just watch the stream again

[orchid pilot]

that's a fitting unit right there in merci's screenshot

[ruby sorrel]

it's not that complicated

[orchid pilot]

and the next cut shows components coming out at a 2s interval instead of 10s interval

[wispy grove]

just testing harunachan's system

[ruby sorrel]

you literally see the entire thing

[orchid pilot]

the only thing we don't know is any other inputs to the gearing unit

[ruby sorrel]

presumably some sort of xira

[orchid pilot]

there is an item that comes off the depot unloader

but it's too high, out of shot

it stands to reason that heavy xira would be used to increase the xira cost (1:2 vs. 1:10)

[vale topaz]

yea still wonder about whole 1 crucible 1 xircon.

a xircon require 2 xircon liquid and produce sewage.

ehh 3-4 more days for real answer

[orchid pilot]

it's worse than 1 cruc v2 + 1 cruc v1

you're choked by the half xircon effluent

[ruby sorrel]

at worse it'd be fat+reg no?

[orchid pilot]

so you'd be running half and need double v2 to compensate

so yes, it should be fat + reg to make 1 at proper utilization

150 power instead of 200 power (from trying to shove everything in one and only making half-speed and needing two)

[orchid pilot]

that too

you can't feed the recovered xircon back in

because you're already feeding water and sewage

[ruby sorrel]

you could if you mix the pipes

they're not maxed

but you'd have to have clean input ratios

[subtle finch]

3 fluid types can fit in 2 ports

[orchid pilot]

oh? I'm not up to date on this, anything I can read on it?

[craggy granite]

Question: Which is more efficient?
-Separating the raw processing and production
-or just make it a whole set a-z

[wispy grove]

maybe thats 1.5 xircon this u need 2 inert

maybe

[subtle finch]

i mean we're already doing it, my treatment unit takes both inert and sewage right now

as long you only send what it can consume

[orchid pilot]

I tried reading that and couldn't understand the logistics heading to the treatment unit

[vale topaz]

so the inert converted into real xircon liquid and both xirconliquid inserted into another crucible for solid xircon
at least reduced from 5 into 2 c4ucible + 1 purification unit.
and cost only 1 xiranite and 1 ferrium dust

[subtle finch]

its all based on this figure

[subtle finch]

the bigger optimization is feeding the xircon effluent back to the same crucible, there's nothing preventing that that we think

[vale topaz]

up to you, which style you prefer.
i'm more procedural, so i split the process around.
specially the plantation.

[orchid pilot]

sorry! I hopped to the other server! Read it more closely and I think I understand now

[orchid pilot]

the funny thing is that's a skyforge underneath

with xira being fed to make heavy xira

and we know from the next cut that xircon effluent is an input for that

but the next cut shows it as 0.5/s

this cut shows it as 1/s

and a bunch of facilities change between the cuts too

[subtle finch]

basically, i found out that treatment unit was only on 25/30 of the time, the gap was enough to send in the excess sewage

[orchid pilot]

and then after that pan, it switches back to this cut

watching closely is like being gaslit

[ruby sorrel]

it's 2 different forges or sth

and then the final 12forge cut is something nonsensical

[orchid pilot]

yeah lmao

[subtle finch]

first they showed 2 forges are paired with 4 crucibles

[orchid pilot]

yes feed the 1/2sec outputs all together

[subtle finch]

then they showed with expanded crucible, you only need 1 and a purification unit

i think that's what they're trying to tell

[wispy grove]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i deleted my work

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-aughhh-gif-24532719

oh i saved it

nvm

@marble yarrow

[pulsar cypress]

[wispy grove]

too spacious

this new hetonite comp is so expensive

it needs 3 xiranite+1 sewage to make heavy

[young igloo]

no fat crucible?

[wispy grove]

these 2

the upper and lower are the purifiers( near heavyxiranite output)

[marble yarrow]

make 1x4 empty space coz its bigger lmaoo

or 1x5

expanded is 5x6

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

theres empty space its bugging me

[fringe summit]

it bugs me that you're using 12 instead of 10

[wispy grove]

10 what?

[fringe summit]

reactors

[wispy grove]

other are purifiers

i just used crucible as a temporary facilty

theres 6 crucible, 2 expanded crucible, and 4 purifiers

[subtle finch]

that wont work

[wispy grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1482970542742048829/IDontRemember__20260207_1.gif

[subtle finch]

you cant split depot bus that far and connect them in subpac

[wispy grove]

ofc it has to be fully maxed subpac

[subtle finch]

even if its maxed out, you only get 8 bus, and one square

[wispy grove]

or else il just cut the whole bp in half

[wispy grove]

sad so we can only make straight line then

[wispy grove]

how big is the subpac

max?

60x60?

[subtle finch]

50x50

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-aughhh-gif-24532719

thats so small

that doesnt look small in the livestream

[pulsar cypress]

50x50 - the main pac..

[fringe summit]

there might be some random environmental objects stealing a few cells like power plateau's too

[magic geyser]

Curious, does anyone know when the next factory expansion update will/likely happen? I want to grow my factory more.

[upper fiber]

so 5 for xira, 2 for heavy, left over 1 forge need to be split 6:4?

after rossi banner ended

[magic geyser]

oh so pretty soon? thats cool.

[upper fiber]

4days till update done

[magic geyser]

I don't pay attention to social media updates so good to know its happening so soon. Thank you.

[sick basin]

Needing 3 forges for 1 heavy xira is kinda cringe

[upper fiber]

might be 4...

[sick basin]

Cuz of inert?

[upper fiber]

eff

[earnest steeple]

2 plus purification node.

[sick basin]

Shouldve given us 12 forges now

[upper fiber]

there is a chance for that

otherwise why would they mention '12'

[sick basin]

Cuz 12 is coming later
But they should be coming rn

[upper fiber]

then it should be mentioned next livestream

i'm ready for 12 forge though

8 xira production + 4 heavy

[pulsar cypress]

12 forges builded..
*not enough spaces for other bps..

[upper fiber]

new stuff on new subpac

[subtle finch]

imagine we get super heavy xiranite

[sick basin]

Nah, if 1.3 is when we get 12 forges
We should also be getting a new map with another outpost
Space is fine~

Plus we have whole current sub empty anyway