aic-factory

[crude nebula]

Doesnt it located to the left side of current outpost?

[gritty notch]

wouldnt that lead to power outage pretty early ?

[pulsar cypress]

Grab 100 v4 hc battery, place in 2 thermal bank.
Then build your xiranite - cupri syr A (to get sewage supplies) - sc battery wuling (with sewage from syr A)

It should be enough.
Replace later to sc wuling battery when u already produced some..

[crude nebula]

At least you already prepared the production line, just need to bring some valley 4 HC battery to jumpstart everything on wuling with 100% ready to go production

[vale topaz]

well, that's not a dummy issue but advanced issue.

is your tower setup at alluvium use power ? if yes, use battery, a stack of 50 should last for long time.
also focus on 1 type battery only, usually hc as the strongest version.

for protocol stash, becareful when used for multiple product.
if one of them maxed at warehouse, the other production line will stop working.

[crude nebula]

Rather than wasting batteries while setting up production

[gritty notch]

yes thats the advice i was looking for thank you
i think i got idea of what to do now

[pulsar cypress]

Try share ss of ur aic report and aic battery input output..

[vale topaz]

if you want advice on saving space, will need screenshot of your base.
plantation / seed loop does not need depot unloader or line from aic output.

[pulsar cypress]

Coz all wuling plant should be enough with just 1 battery, having battery problem with 4 thermal is something really wrong..

[crude nebula]

His problem should be on the wasted power during setting up production line

If not using any bp and you fully DIY, it sure take some times to be ready

[gritty notch]

I SEE

i see*

[gritty notch]

the ss of overview?

[crude nebula]

He's on factory mode

Capslock goes brrr

[vale topaz]

yes

[pulsar cypress]

If doing correctly, max output enough with 1 sc wuling battery..
Even if inefficient, it should be enough with 2 sc wuling at most ig..

[gritty notch]

will this do?

i switched to sc earlier today due to afore mentioned space issue

[crude nebula]

Even with 2 SC usage wuling you'll still on positive number to sell to outpost

[gritty notch]

the thing is it works fine for a few mins then suddenly i drop to 600

[pulsar cypress]

I see.. The problem is in the inefficient production of wuling stuffs..
So u consume a lot more facilities and spaces than needed..

[crude nebula]

Wait you're not crafting sc wuling bat?

[gritty notch]

hmm

[sterile stratus]

24/25 🥀 tbh they should increase limit a little like 30

[pulsar cypress]

You follow the tutorial with just 1 input - 1 output..
Not following the ratio of input needed..

[crude nebula]

Ah his ss shows the current problem

Now the problem is on the ratio used for crafting

[vale topaz]

uhm can you screenshot the whole ? yeah, it is hard to do because limited zoom out.
but you wont need to make v4 battery at wu ling to power wu ling.

that xiranite production is inefficient since it require 2 refined carbon for 1 per 2 sec production.

[sterile stratus]

what battery are you doing there? i think i see xiranite with v4 battery...

[gritty notch]

i got 1 at the outpust that goes on 2 for 1 ratio

[gritty notch]

that was the only battery method that allowed production to be fast

[sterile stratus]

...

[crude nebula]

I think he though to craft v4 Hc bat, while preparing for SC wuling bat

Using the ferrium in wuling

[sterile stratus]

you can just bring 50(should be enough) hc bat and use them, meanwhile prep for sc wuling?

[crude nebula]

Rather than dump his extras from valley 4

[gritty notch]

well thats what i should do first then

[crude nebula]

Thats the first problem, he might not or currently change his layout rn

[gritty notch]

eh not the first time i needed tear down the entire layout anyway

i will just start from scratch

[sterile stratus]

firstly bring some batteries from v4 and place down some temporary thermal banks to ensure everything works
then in that time build your wuling battery production line

[crude nebula]

Classic factory case, dont worry about it

[cyan forge]

Bring some of ur v4 hc battery while u try to make lc battery@gritty notch

[crude nebula]

Agree

[gritty notch]

i spent more time fixing the factory than farming pulls

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Clean it up and start from empty a lot better..

[cyan forge]

Unless u alr upgraded to outpost l3

[pulsar cypress]

Its a lot less headache and easier than repairing the setup..

[crude nebula]

Stop this propaganda

[sterile stratus]

bro

[cyan forge]

Also who do u put in ur wuling outpost rn?@gritty notch

Operatorwise

If it's wulfgard, swap it out for lifeng

Or tangtang

[gritty notch]

TANG TANG

[cyan forge]

Ok good

[vale topaz]

not sure if my model of procedural will fit with you.
for wuling sc bat, you need xiranite and originium cube.
i separate their process, xiranite only and orignium cube only.
after that combine them with few depot unloader and a single package unit.
even the xiranite process is separated from plan seed loop.

that might help with reducing your headche for spacing.

[crude nebula]

Should be fine with the cash prod then

[cyan forge]

@gritty notch l2 or 3 wuling outpost rn?

[gritty notch]

alr should take me some time to set up those creds

[pulsar cypress]

Mine is simpler since its one place from 0 to final product..

[gritty notch]

l1 as of yet
i just finished wuling story yesterday spent 9 hours on factory

[cyan forge]

Ah ok i see

[crude nebula]

Mine is split, xiranite and yazhen on outpost, final battery on main AIC

[cyan forge]

How advanced is ur v4 factory rn?

[gritty notch]

somehow my jincao medicine is working

[cyan forge]

Do u have some batteries stocked up?

[gritty notch]

yes

set up like 2-3 for baterries altho they are all scs

ignore my spelling i am running on 1 hour of sleep

[cyan forge]

Try to minimize selling hc battery in v4 by selling more of the amethyst stuff n whatnot then

[pulsar cypress]

But need to understand the process since its compact..

[cyan forge]

So u can migrate the hc battery from v4 to wuling for the time being in dijang

Are u l12 on valley's regional development?@gritty notch

[gritty notch]

no

[cyan forge]

Ah... Rip

[sterile stratus]

do u have 3 forges design

[cyan forge]

If u reached 12, u can metastorage dense orig to make hc battery in wuling

[crude nebula]

His gameplay probably story rush, thats why he is on wuling now

[pulsar cypress]

Have, 3+3 in sub pac..

[gritty notch]

not exactly story rush

[sterile stratus]

can i hab it

[pulsar cypress]

All turned off, prepared for update..

Wait..

[cyan forge]

Good luck @gritty notch

[gritty notch]

well lets pray i dont nuke the aic like tang tang did

heard they gonna make it easier to rdm in the next patch

[cyan forge]

There's no way to nuke ur factory dw

Take it easy

U have battery from v4 if all else fail

[gritty notch]

300 should be enough for now right?

[cyan forge]

How many hc do u have in storage?

U'd need more than 300 for a whole day

Unless ur wuling factory is alr working

1.5/tb/min

Am assuming u'd be using 2-3 tb

So 300 will only last u:
100 min for 2 tb
66.6 min for 3 tb

Tb is thermal bank

[gritty notch]

imma disable wuling for now then

and set up some battery lines in valley 4 first

[cyan forge]

Well if ur wuling factory is running properly, u can just use that battery instead ofc

But yeah, otherwise do that

If u want to be safe, at least start ur xiranite line in wuling@gritty notch

[pulsar cypress]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: ASIA
EFO018Ie693o9I12IUI73

Need to place the forge manually, and output rerouted to stash if u wanna go to stash..
Mine directly to PAC..

[cyan forge]

U can have em in storage and take out for use l8r

It's 1st prio b4 anything in wuling

[gritty notch]

a;r

alr*

[vale topaz]

dont forget to maintain or at least max stack 80k of :
refined orignium
amethys part
ferrium part
steel part
chryston part
for factory facility production.

[pulsar cypress]

[vale topaz]

once new patch arrived, time to stack cupriun part and xiranite again to max

[gritty notch]

yea.... i am about to cry

[winged oriole]

Huh, did they shut down my factory during the maint until I relogged in

[pulsar cypress]

Its bug iirc.. Happened to someone also before..
To me also 1x.. Whole 8 hrs im sleeping all stop..

[upper fiber]

did you log off before MT?

[winged oriole]

Nah I was idling somewhere I think

[vale topaz]

that's scary....

[winged oriole]

guess I'll log off next time

[pulsar cypress]

Yea.. Luckily me always stock ores half max only..
When wake up, my orig ore and xiranite almost cap..

Copium capped.

[mint sentinel]

what might this mean

[young igloo]

fuyuharu been off for 3d now, wonder if hes doing ok

[young igloo]

its in the words, unlock the thermal bank for more power

[mint sentinel]

ohh

so thermal banks just do that

i thought they worked like electric pylons

[slate plume]

thermal banks increase your power output though it has to be fed batteries to keep the energy consumption up

[upper fiber]

you need to input battery or originium ore to thermal bank though

my 12 forge on main pac is ready

[vale shoal]

Imagine if game just let us build solar or nuclear

The factory is in fact

Can't grow

[vale topaz]

day/night cycle with solar power or
limited water and water purification loop with nuclear power.

[vale shoal]

Just dump the nuclear heat water straight back to the river

Them buggerloid won't know what hit them

(unfortunately that water doesn't contain any radiation)

[young igloo]

idk isnt the xiranite is pretty much an advanced thing?

i mean its water and ashes

yet sc wuling is already > 3x hc in valley

[vale topaz]

sandleaf is true battery god

[young igloo]

the mf saviour

the core of the factory

[vale shoal]

Something something power of god

Feramute, I can't spell for shits despite already play the Arknights: Rhodes Island

[vale topaz]

we should be allowed to insert sandleaf into thermal bank to power the factory

[vale shoal]

Yeah other FACTORY games called that a bio reactor

[dire vapor]

Gotta say goodbye to my SC line in a week, I'm still proud of the piping

[vale shoal]

Can't say I proud of my factory

I stole the design

[young igloo]

it look square, its good

[vale shoal]

Anyone have a zipline up here

Please share 🙏

[young igloo]

still proud of my wasted 2h to make ts symmetrical

(not really)

[vale shoal]

Which side the river

[young igloo]

to the right

[dire vapor]

I have a flipped version too

[young igloo]

symmetrical brotherhood

[dire vapor]

Not as clean but still decent

[vale topaz]

my symmetry is up side down so can fit 4 sc battery if required

[tender thistle]

I also got hit with the factory shut down bug

I logged in after the maintenance about 2hrs ago, then logged in now to find this

[vale shoal]

They better give us more ore nodes

[young igloo]

theres a new one tho

hetonite iirc?

and acid fluid

[dire vapor]

Its not new

Its copium plus acid

[young igloo]

mf then help capped

[crude nebula]

new map should give more nodes

its 2 maps right?

[dire vapor]

Yes, the one with the new subPAC will most likely have ores

[vale topaz]

probably more orignium for orignium cube

[vale shoal]

Is there like
More originium or something

[crude nebula]

no leak yet for the nodes

[dire vapor]

The more important thing is there's a sewage > xiranite effluent converters

[young igloo]

more cancer rock yay

[dire vapor]

So we don't need to leech xiranite for components anymore most likely

[vale shoal]

Probably gonna have to tear down the factory

[young igloo]

so i can discard all my xircon production and make a new one yay

[dire vapor]

Or rather, we can use the effluent for Xircon

[crude nebula]

but we still dont know how much ratio is the heronite thing

[young igloo]

67 more hours wasted on the aic

[royal eagle]

It will be last upgrade anyways

For wuling

[dire vapor]

Shouldn't be

[vale topaz]

nope, in the future we will get 12 forge

[viscid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[dire vapor]

We should be getting one more subPAC before Wuling is over

[vale topaz]

acclrding to the stream

[royal eagle]

I don't think we can fit those

[dire vapor]

Total 3 subpacs

[crude nebula]

yeah the end isn't there yet for wuling

[dire vapor]

We're only getting the 2nd one next patch

So theres more wuling

[crude nebula]

the chaos in story just start on next patch

[royal eagle]

I think we will not get factory upgrade next patch

[young igloo]

where do u guys get the info tho

[crude nebula]

probably tier 4 or 5

[vale topaz]

yes, tang tang base only enough for 8
unless you broke down further to separate carbon process

[crude nebula]

just predict thing basically

[dire vapor]

The stream, but the shmoll guy is just pulling assumptions out his ass

[dire vapor]

I too, can make wild claims about future patches

I think they will give me 50 forges

[crude nebula]

the "12 and so on" is like the leak itself

[young igloo]

nah my uncle said the max is 48 the game eos

[royal eagle]

[young igloo]

thats the plan

[vale shoal]

Why call it "leak" if every info came from the devs anyway

[royal eagle]

So we get one more sub pac next patch ?(1.3)

[crude nebula]

1.3 first brother

[vale topaz]

no idea when for the 3rd subpac

[crude nebula]

next patch only 1.2

[dire vapor]

We're still missing one more depot node and stock redistributor after 1.2, missing one more subpac, and the wuling story isn't even close to done and he says the factory will end next patch

Crazy claims

[royal eagle]

They are concluding wuling at 1.3 right

[pulsar cypress]

Start stocking strawberry juice anyone?
XD

[royal eagle]

I don't think every map will have same amount of everything

[dire vapor]

I think Wuling will have 10 subpacs then

[royal eagle]

As we have the photograph missions for wuling

[crude nebula]

look at stokage, pretty empty for a big map

[vale topaz]

💀

[vale shoal]

There are like

Only 2 rares gathering in quinhbo

[viscid plover]

Outpost UI where you sell things fit 3, idk unless they Gona change things around who knows

[sick basin]

And both are important for masteries

[royal eagle]

The factory grows exponentially so it is possible we will need one more pac to make factory this patch

[vale topaz]

could be, could be not.
since the patch could be 3 banners in 1 just like how 1.0 rolled

[royal eagle]

They said it in stream

[subtle finch]

more analysis from livestream

• packaging unit requires 1:2 of ratio of mysterious red rock, and 2 heavy xiranite
• heavy xiranite is made in forge using xircon effluent and mysterious solid, my guess is ferrium powder since we saw one on stream that's unaccounted for
• mysterious red rock is likely made from the orange liquid plus another mysterious solid, this could be ferrium too

[vale topaz]

wish able to recruit tang tang, want to make triplet wu ling party

[viscid plover]

Me not hodo at all

[young igloo]

haihai naruhodo

[crude nebula]

is it possible the new red solid a cuprium dust from shreeder?

based on this picture they give on stream

[royal eagle]

Yeah most likely

[pulsar cypress]

Its probably either copium shred or refined copium shred..?

[vale topaz]

we are able to shred cuprium but no use on this patch

[young igloo]

more sandleaf job ig

[vale topaz]

more originium cube too

[young igloo]

tungsten cube when

[royal eagle]

If we don't have new batteries this patch we can expect one more factory upgrade

[crude nebula]

so many cubes but not many crafting use

[vale topaz]

new beam tower, mortar tower, acid tower

[royal eagle]

Yeah new towers looks fire

[coral cargo]

im turning turning wuling into a blood pool soon

[vale topaz]

bottled acid for depot delivery

[solid quiver]

hatonite + heavy xironite we are bound to get new meds bats

[royal eagle]

Yeah i think so but some ppl say we will get one more patch so im thinking how will they make it

[vale shoal]

Are we sure Sandleaf is not something like sawdust

[royal eagle]

No its powered flower

[solid quiver]

probably just gonna be dry patch

[vale shoal]

Where you put more sawdust into stuff like food to cut cost, increase profits

[royal eagle]

I said so

[solid quiver]

or new city for new region premier

[tender thistle]

Fighting the urge to remodel my current factory out of boredom even though I know I will need to scrap everything in a few days 💀

[vale shoal]

The purpose of it

[ruby sorrel]

A plant with extremely rough leaves that can be gathered from the wilderness or cultivated in the AIC. Shred it to get a powdered preparation usable in industrial grinding.

[subtle finch]

im not even sure if its a packaging unit, it looks more like gearing unit, but they didnt mention a new component

[ruby sorrel]

but they did mention a new component

[royal eagle]

Possibly new resion small area

In 1.3

[royal eagle]

Idk how sawdust is used so idk

[ruby sorrel]

well you certainly don't use it as an abrasive

[vale shoal]

It is called DENSE Originium powder

Why instead of more Originium, we put extra LEAF in

[ruby sorrel]

finer grind = denser dust packing ig

[royal eagle]

Catalyst or smt

Need to read discription

[vale shoal]

Are we sure this isn't a scam to sell less Originium for the same price

[ruby sorrel]

how is it less when you throw the 2x the dust in

[royal eagle]

bro we are scaming terra 2 all along trust

robbing them of their resources

[vale shoal]

Should be called Originium and Sandleaf compound

[solid quiver]

that urge beat me, now I casually modify it

[wispy grove]

YEAH LETS START SHREDDING EXTRA CUPRIUMMMMMMMMMM

[solid quiver]

hatonite components

[royal eagle]

bro i built my last patch factory in 30 min and never touched it since

coz i knew i need to scrap it next patch

[vale shoal]

My bet for the third region is

Some where snow

UWST quest line

[royal eagle]

desert ?

possible

[young igloo]

u discarding it again next patch lol

why bother playing at all

[ruby sorrel]

discard it every patch

[young igloo]

[ruby sorrel]

like how we discarded v4

[royal eagle]

to grind lol

[vale shoal]

Go ahead, go rebuild v4 right now for no reason at all

[royal eagle]

no way im touching a thing

[vale shoal]

Imagine next month they patch valley 4 and add a new region because they fix all the road and shits

[royal eagle]

ooh 1.3 v4 expantion lol

[solid quiver]

should be la fantona

[young igloo]

imagine wuling allow xiranite tech in v4

[vale shoal]

So you can walk from AIC Hub to power plant

[royal eagle]

whats that

water resion ?

[solid quiver]

a city

[royal eagle]

in desert ?

[vale shoal]

The damn terror attack destroyed all the road and bridges in valley 4

[royal eagle]

or in snow ?

[shell hinge]

Is it a bad idea to start building designs for 1.2 now?

[royal eagle]

yeah

[shell hinge]

There's a fair amount of stuff that can be prebuilt with what we know

Mostly priority systems

[vale shoal]

Yes, because you don't even sure what the ratio and resources for 1.2 actually have

[young igloo]

use endfield tool or smth

[royal eagle]

yeah but you cant optimise

[shell hinge]

Priority is optimization lol

[young igloo]

at least i know theres gonna be more sky forges

[shell hinge]

Ratios are trivial and take no effort

[young igloo]

[solid quiver]

iirc it's in seaside has beach

[shell hinge]

The hard part has always been logistics, and that we know about

[royal eagle]

ooh cool

[solid quiver]

based on hawaii porta rico

[vale shoal]

Dossols 2.0

Excuse my spelling

[vale shoal]

The city in the country with 3 way civil war on Terra in Arknights: Rhodes Island

[shell hinge]

I'll get as much as I can prebuilt for 1.2 I think

[vale shoal]

Bolivia

[shell hinge]

Fluid and item priority I suspect

Should be interesting

[royal eagle]

we need to purify some stuff in new area and we need some new liquid form new areas (worng pin )

[shell hinge]

Been needing an excuse to set up item priority anyway, I was too lazy to rebuild my 1.1 base for it

[royal eagle]

We will need to scrap the whole factory to make a 1.2 factory

[shell hinge]

It seems like the 1.2 resource is pretty simple though

[royal eagle]

There is new component for new gears

[shell hinge]

Acid+cuprium>refine=hetonite. Standard components from there, probably used in new batteries too

[royal eagle]

They didn't revealed everything i think only new greas part

[shell hinge]

My guess would be hetonite powder for heavy xiranite or new version of xircon

That's what they said

You combine acid with cuprium, then purify to get hetonite

May be more steps like refining and what not, but the general idea is simple

[subtle finch]

i heard

[royal eagle]

It looks orange

[solid quiver]

I wonder what's reason of the expanded crucible

[shell hinge]

To compact builds

[royal eagle]

Definately we need to

[solid quiver]

what would be additional thing needed to make expansion

[shell hinge]

Probably hetonite

It seems to be a new building, rather than a new mode to existing reactors

[wispy grove]

if the ratio is 2 cuprium effluent + ferrium dust = 1 hetonite +1 sewage, we need atleast 5crucibles + 1 purifier just to make 1 hetonite

[royal eagle]

Its heavy xhiracon effluent right

[shell hinge]

We should be able to do liquid xiranite+xircon effluent in one reactor now

[solid quiver]

I can't wait to get gases to pollute cities

[wispy grove]

this one uses 8 crucible +2 purifier to 1 hetonite crucible🥀

[royal eagle]

Well you need to wait 2 more patches atleast

[wispy grove]

yup, and the purifier makes inert to xircon eff. more like 1.5 xircon eff per 2 secs now

[shell hinge]

Sounds like we won't be destroying sewage either, it gets converted to more xircon effluent

[blissful dragon]

can anyone refer to me a 'late game' valley 4 base BP? I've been using Qyurii mid game BP but I think I'm consuming too much ori and amethyst. I got too much Ferri

[wispy grove]

this might be sewage again

[royal eagle]

Sewage makes factory more complicated

[shell hinge]

Marginally

This implies that you will want to move stuff to the new aic outpost, since the alternative is running a conduit from the wuling aic to the new region

Which sounds very painful

[royal eagle]

Yeah

[shell hinge]

You can probably do just xircon in the new outpost

Although this means save up stock bills to instamax the outpost

[wispy grove]

this is where the extra sewage will go. which makes xircon eff on its own

[royal eagle]

Also we will hit max wulling regional lvl 12 so we will not get any factory patch after this for wulling

[wispy grove]

no sewage clog

[shell hinge]

Pretty sure that just means that it won't stop eating sewage

[solid quiver]

could it be in test area or other area?

[royal eagle]

What this make it so easy

[shell hinge]

Aka you can directly replace treatment plants with that

[wispy grove]

yup

[solid quiver]

I mean which

[shell hinge]

Other one

[unreal crater]

You can use KyostinV's V4 base. You should have Regional Development Level 11 + max upgrade base expansions first before copying it though

[wispy grove]

test

[solid quiver]

if it's in other area, it will be a bit closer to connect conduits

[royal eagle]

I think these will be near a new sub pac

[solid quiver]

or it wouldn't be auto connected right

[wispy grove]

its just near main aic

[royal eagle]

Thats far

[upper fiber]

it is that one though

[subtle finch]

my bp prediction, that's a lot of power usage though just for components

[solid quiver]

if that treatment area is in test area it's far away from sub AICs

[royal eagle]

Dw we are getting hc wulling bats

They will produce 6400 units power

[wispy grove]

is this heavy xira?

[solid quiver]

you forgot manifloid

[upper fiber]

6.3k power... worth it?

[solid quiver]

way too high

[royal eagle]

Yeah i think

[shell hinge]

The wuling batteries have scaled quite hard, 6k power will likely be trivial

[solid quiver]

it would hinder your bat production for new airea

[royal eagle]

So we will need to use new forges to make heavy xiranite

[solid quiver]

save enough

[shell hinge]

Wait is this about 1.2 wuling?

[upper fiber]

yeah

[wispy grove]

it needs 2 belts of xiranite + 1xircon eff to make 1 heavy i think

[solid quiver]

8 forges to produce 4 heavy xironite and that's just 2 bat lmao

[shell hinge]

Hc batteries will likely be very strong

If the current scaling is anything to go by

[solid quiver]

should sell at 100 or 90

[royal eagle]

We will be making 12 bats per min with 8 forges

Is it possible?

[solid quiver]

it is

[sick basin]

We ar emaking 12 bats rn

[shell hinge]

Current margins indicate that you can spend 12.5-25% of battery production on power with no losses

[sick basin]

We just dont have the ori yield for it

[royal eagle]

Probably it will be half for xiranite and half for hx

[sick basin]

Unless we get bunch of ori nodes

[upper fiber]

6 forge should be enough for 2 bat

[subtle finch]

now i changed my mind and believe the patch will come with a new battery, then we will need to balance between new comp and new bat again

[royal eagle]

Ofc

[shell hinge]

The balance is likely to be as easy as it is now

Which is to say extremely

[upper fiber]

unless the devs trolling us, new bat likely 6.3k, maybe 25 dense 5 heavy input?

[royal eagle]

No

We need liquid so we don't need that much inputs

[shell hinge]

Rn we can max battery sales and produce double max components after all

[upper fiber]

1.2 2 outposts... + event, dunno if we can clear

[royal eagle]

One outpost

[shell hinge]

We saw a pic of 2

[royal eagle]

2 areas

[solid quiver]

lvling up 2 AIC posts with one type of saved bats and with accelerated bill production sounds pretty hard

[royal eagle]

One outpost right

[solid quiver]

I wonder even if 80k is enough

[wispy grove]

only one added outpost

[royal eagle]

Yeah

[shell hinge]

Wym? Saving is very easy

[royal eagle]

Guys its unlikely we will have same amount of everything as v4 guys

[shell hinge]

If you have a max capacity base you just stop selling and that's it

[marble yarrow]

you can purify the inert effluent and use it for heavy xiranite, to save resource

[shell hinge]

Depot has more than enough capacity

[solid quiver]

qingbo post would lvl too yk

[royal eagle]

We might end up with only 2 outputs in wuling

Totally possible

[solid quiver]

i mean would it be even enough to drain the accumulated bills

[shell hinge]

Yes?

[upper fiber]

their definition of outpost is different from us maybe

[shell hinge]

Assuming you currently produce enough to buy out bills

All that matters is your production rate vs outpost generation rate, which rn can be easily maxed

Just don't throw away batteries while accumulating and you'll be fine

[royal eagle]

1mil will be enough for this patch

[vale shoal]

You know

I have feelings that I have been lied to

[royal eagle]

Lol

[ruby sorrel]

now outpost is going to start empty anyways isn't it, stocking is just for new outpost lvs after you unlock

[shell hinge]

The new turrets should improve energy alluvium farming though. I was quite sad when the 1.1 turrets didn't help afk at all

[royal eagle]

Wdym

[vale shoal]

Wdym, the flamethrower totally help with afk

[royal eagle]

Flame thrower are crazy

[shell hinge]

It does nothing for afk setups

[royal eagle]

With slow cannons

[ruby sorrel]

but ppl are afking with them

[shell hinge]

Extremely unreliable against the minibosses

[royal eagle]

Afk anything

[shell hinge]

What I mean is that they do nothing to improve afk setups

Very comparable to the he grenade

[royal eagle]

Use singe target cannons

[shell hinge]

Yes, which is exactly what we used before

[royal eagle]

But we clear mobs faster now

[shell hinge]

Kill speed on trash mobs didn't matter because it was always the minibosses that gated the next wave spawning

[royal eagle]

Coz of aoe high dps

[vale shoal]

You use like 4 flamer and what 8 sniper

That's the set up

[shell hinge]

That's the same as before, just 4 he instead

[royal eagle]

Even adding 2 slow cannons is good

They just don't move and die

[shell hinge]

I run 2 gas, it helps but does not prevent movement

[vale shoal]

The point of afk is afk-ing

[shell hinge]

Best method to prevent movement I've found is packaging machines iirc

[vale shoal]

While you afk you stand up and do something else

[shell hinge]

Afk setups sadly tax you 2 turrets, but wuling has enough turret capacity to take that in stride

[vale shoal]

Like do your dishes or something

[bright zodiac]

for afk, if you really want to put 8 thermal bank on farming setup or even seed planter, go ahead

sure u can mix with fragger, and all sentry to catch single target that didnt get burned

althoooo i personally dont like the box caging setup, looks meh

i just stand in the middle of usual tower setup and it usually done within 45-70s

[shell hinge]

2 medical turrets is technically not quite enough, but with some buck c it's fine

[bright zodiac]

NEVER USE medical turret

[shell hinge]

It's the afk tax. They suck but you need them for true afk

[bright zodiac]

use attacking turret, for faster clear

just.... cmon, eat your syringe A for free or Jincao tea

dont be so stingy

[royal eagle]

They are useless though

[wispy grove]

theres no hc battery yet right?

[shell hinge]

You run out of meds fairly often without medical turrets, hence why you use them

[royal eagle]

There will be this patch

[bright zodiac]

u dont need medical turret for survival at all

[wispy grove]

cant see it

[shell hinge]

You need it for sustain, which is important for afk

[bright zodiac]

not at alll

i stand do nothing

[royal eagle]

They only showed gearing part imo

[bright zodiac]

and spend 1000 stamina

[vale shoal]

IS THAT ARTILLERY

[ruby sorrel]

we'll be needing way too many reactors to not get hc batt

[bright zodiac]

and it only burn 25x jincao drink and 5 syringe

[royal eagle]

No way we are not getting anything else to sell and that much new elements

[shell hinge]

Without medical turrets, you run a lot of risk, especially outside of wuling

[solid quiver]

about that limited time formulas? what's that thing would it he

[shell hinge]

It's the most reliable setup of all those I've tested, except for a couple where you can hide in an unreachable location

[solid quiver]

jincao is enough tho

[royal eagle]

I never seen that happened to me if you use better tactical support

[unreal crater]

1 step closer to the OG

[shell hinge]

I tested with jincao+yazhen

Buck is just the cheaper alt for medical turrets

[bright zodiac]

let them use medical turret, idc

[royal eagle]

You didn't notice that ?

[bright zodiac]

the fact that.... it TAKES up tower slot, is REALLY bad

[shell hinge]

The other setups seem to have much lower afk standards

[shell hinge]

The tower slots are unfortunate but that's the cost of better afk

If you want more turrets for less afk, that's a valid choice

[royal eagle]

Just use dps and dich the medical towers its not that hard

[solid quiver]

American magic - true weapon

[shell hinge]

I prioritize maximum afk quality

[bright zodiac]

doubt thats what we get soon

probably next year

[vale shoal]

Sledgehammer mortar better have the range of 2 kilometres or more

[sterile stratus]

sounds op

[royal eagle]

Yeah it works everyone is saying that

[solid quiver]

nah they'd be like "20m take it or leave it"

[shell hinge]

I tested a bunch of setups found online and posted here, none were up to my afk standards

[marble yarrow]

who's sweating out it essence turrets

[royal eagle]

I think it will continually hit one big area

[shell hinge]

Wym? I want to be able to call in fire from another region at least

[solid quiver]

now we only need nuclear weapons

[bright zodiac]

hyper beam tower, attack interval be like

10s

[royal eagle]

Soon

[bright zodiac]

[unreal crater]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-qin-jiangchi-qin-gif-6881891113954903567

[solid quiver]

nuclear energy to produce meds lol

[vale shoal]

From end to end of wuling is like 1.5 km at most

[sterile stratus]

finally i connected jingyu valley and wuling city

[solid quiver]

I wonder if we would plant AIC s in Terra

[shell hinge]

I mean calling in a strike on a valley iv camp from wuling

[vale shoal]

You would need missiles

[royal eagle]

Terra is done for

[shell hinge]

Hopefully we get the ability to call in orbital strikes one day as well

We do have a perfectly good ship in orbit that does orbital drops all the time after all

[vale shoal]

AIC factory core is orbital dropped

Imagine rod from god

[shell hinge]

Just sneak one of our originium cataclysm devices into one of the drop pods

Because we apparently have literal originium wmds we made to "spread the power of originium"

[solid quiver]

walfarin is busy in rhodes to cure originium while we use minerals to produce meds to get enough bills for originium related facilities

[wispy grove]

the one on the left that looks like sauron tower acts like inferno tower. then the right side looks like mortar bomber

[shell hinge]

Xiranite is apparently originium based and we can dump liquid xiranite everywhere, sooo

[ruby sorrel]

think hyperbeam tower will still be electric dmg?

[wispy grove]

i think so

[vale shoal]

Why the mortar look like it using electromagnetic rail to launch shells

[royal eagle]

Yeah mortar bombers look nice

[vale shoal]

What if heat

[solid quiver]

it be like " dmg: 1-50000, attack interval: 0.1sec"

lmao goated inferno tower

[shell hinge]

If those are rails, they are the shittiest rails I've ever seen lmao. No support, not flat

[ruby sorrel]

heat would mean it works better on the tentacle things

[vale shoal]

The orange part

[shell hinge]

Yeah, those would be the worst rails in every way lol

[royal eagle]

Agree

[vale shoal]

We will see what it actually is later

Too little pixels

[solid quiver]

can we use animals to produce products?

[shell hinge]

The no support is very clear

[vale shoal]

We already have a rail gun sniper

[shell hinge]

Railguns need tons of structural support to hold the rails together

[vale shoal]

Yeah but sci-fi design

They are artists, not engineer

[subtle finch]

okay, all forges accounted for, i guess this means sc bat is dead?

[royal eagle]

Mortar attack interval will be high

[shell hinge]

Artists can use wikipedia too

[shell hinge]

Probably, seems the pattern

[vale shoal]

That is the expectation of artillery yes

[wispy grove]

transformers 2 plasma cannon

but as a mortar

[vale shoal]

"it is classified"

[vale shoal]

Why are you calling it plasma

[royal eagle]

The trajectory is different

[wispy grove]

itsnot? what is it then

[real crescent]

that entire thing just to make gear? jesus

[wispy grove]

true, its not a mortar if its straight trajectory

[royal eagle]

Yeah

I just hope mortar covers big area

[ruby sorrel]

aren't you supposed to be making comps for gearing

[vale shoal]

Mortar, field artillery, howitzer

Find the difference

[marble yarrow]

could actually use single reactor to produce xircon effluent for 2 forges

[solid quiver]

what's reason behind this?

[royal eagle]

Power

[solid quiver]

no power outage, 12/m bat production, enough power

50k bat ready in local depots and enough battery production to cover usage

[ruby sorrel]

only fitting after crucible?

[vale shoal]

Maintenance bug

[solid quiver]

30 min since auto last management but all blank since last 2h

[ruby sorrel]

wait they killed everyone's factory?

[vale shoal]

Yea

[ruby sorrel]

!!@#!#!!@##@@!

smh

I haven't logged all day

[royal eagle]

ssame

[marble yarrow]

yeah hetonite directly goes to fitting

[solid quiver]

I need to oroberyls to make up for my lost battery production

[ruby sorrel]

pls give me a 100pull ticket

[solid quiver]

it has been 5h since maintenance tho

so that means it didn't run for 5h or glitch?

[marble yarrow]

eyy

[vale shoal]

Literally everyone factory got nuked

[marble yarrow]

mine didnt

[vale shoal]

The factory is infact

Not growing

[royal eagle]

i dont think thats accurate factory as there are some inputs missing

[vale shoal]

Probably because you been online the entire time

[marble yarrow]

i am not

[marble yarrow]

look at this

[ruby sorrel]

o my factory is fine

back to waiting for reset 💤

[vale shoal]

I have no fucking clue

[marble yarrow]

cant wait to mix this in acid

[cyan forge]

we need that?

[ruby sorrel]

meh I never go over sustainable so I never bother stashing intermediaries

[blissful dragon]

huh. we really dont get a lot of amethys mine huh

[cyan forge]

do we alr know sum recipes needed in new liquid?

[subtle finch]

i'm just speculating what will the use for the 8 forges be, just wanna feedback

[cyan forge]

it's kinda trash anw

[ruby sorrel]

should speculate with fat crucibles

8slots for 100 power

[subtle finch]

its actually more skinny 😭

[ruby sorrel]

is it?

what's current crucible size again

5x4?

[subtle finch]

5x5 vs 6x4

[solid quiver]

it only produced production worth of 10.8h while it run 13h

[ruby sorrel]

o it's actually 1 tile less

[solid quiver]

so basically lost worth 2h production to maintenance

[ruby sorrel]

so much space saved

[marble yarrow]

yea

[cyan forge]

hm..

is it better to keep it in ore form or dust?

[royal eagle]

i think 4 forges for xiranite and 4 for heavy xiranite and each heavy xiranite will produce 3 bats

[ruby sorrel]

just ignore it if you aren't going to overproduce for depot cap of dust and then downsize

[vale shoal]

Idea: add protocol stash at every stage of your production line so you can stashing intermediaries when the end product is full

Downside: electric bill

[ruby sorrel]

well it's not like we can't clear outpost while burning 3/min sc rn anyways, it's just for fun to save power

there's so much extra production to do w/e with

[subtle finch]

i see, i thought its coming from this, turns out they're just making ferrium powder in sub-core, idk where that's going

[ruby sorrel]

random mini sc line maybe

we might have extra xira eff from the sewage reclamation

[marble yarrow]

yeah, have to ferry that back to base lmao

[ruby sorrel]

disappointed they don't have sewage bottle stashing shown to transfer between outposts or sth

just to maximize random things ppl aren't doing

[cyan forge]

tbh if u want more sewage in new outpost, just save cupri ores

[marble yarrow]

aight so this is where the path opens to new outpost

[cyan forge]

hm... should i pivot from makin sc battery to sth else? i have like... 50k unused rn n i can't sell em

[cyan forge]

interestin

[marble yarrow]

lower it so you have extra xiranite to stock up

[cyan forge]

40k xira in stock

should i cap it?

[marble yarrow]

since xiranite and heavy xira will fight for forge usage

[cyan forge]

hm... maybe this call for more xira production then

well i'll run it overnight l8r

[solid quiver]

stash to valley 4

[cyan forge]

ew, no

too much work

[solid quiver]

or stash in protocol stashes in wuling

[cyan forge]

i have external storage that can hold 58k in my subaic

ye am doin that

[royal eagle]

forge of the sky will be divided into 2 for heavy xira and 6 for xira

[cyan forge]

why not all 8 for heavy xira KEK

[sterile stratus]

xira gained weight? no way...

[royal eagle]

we need xira to make heavy xira ?

[solid quiver]

I had stashed around 7k in qingbo and 3k in sub aic 15k in main aic

[cyan forge]

oh w8, heavy xira is made in forge?

[royal eagle]

fat xira

[marble yarrow]

yes

[sterile stratus]

lol

[cyan forge]

... what a pain in the ass

[marble yarrow]

so its a usage conflict

[cyan forge]

i guess no more processing poop

goodbye poop

[solid quiver]

probably need to make liquided to craft heavy version

[royal eagle]

yeah

thats what i ment

[marble yarrow]

you need an equivalent of 2 xira (solid) + 1/2 of xira (xircon effluent)

since 1 xiranite in 1.2 can produce 60/min of xircon effluent

[sterile stratus]

5/2 xira

[cyan forge]

5 forge for xira + 2 for heavy xira?

i thought u can turn sewage into xira liquid or sth?

[sterile stratus]

seems like xirafat is eating too much xira

[royal eagle]

2 solid +1 effluent

idk wtf we are doing here

[sterile stratus]

what

[cyan forge]

hm... right i should stock up on cupri comp as well

i forgot abt that

[royal eagle]

its so random

[marble yarrow]

should be orange liquid + ferrium powder to reactor = hetonite
hetonite into fitting unit = hetonite parts
hetonite parts + heavy xiranite = hetonite component

imagine using 2.5x xiranite for component

while we use 1x for both xiranite comp and cuprium com

[cyan forge]

yeah, that's stupid expensive

crazy shit

25k bucks too btw

[solid quiver]

should be 2 forges for heavy xironite lmao

so that 12 forges can produce 3 new bats

[royal eagle]

he is splitting

[marble yarrow]

idk why i stocked SC batts

💀

[solid quiver]

don't we also need use SC Wuling bats to produce hatonite comps and new bats?

[royal eagle]

no

[solid quiver]

so that we can produce more bats or comps

[royal eagle]

we will not need anything from currunt factory

as we will be making 6 soild xira we can only keep those bps for this patch

everything else will chnage imo

[marble yarrow]

yeah the ratio of how many xira vs heavy xira to produce is just still unknown, but safe to say the 4 forge we currently have for xira will remain

[royal eagle]

yeah

[marble yarrow]

watch my main AIC have acid ferried from the new outpost and produce all new stuff

[royal eagle]

im using my first xira bps from 1.0 its just very optimised

[unreal laurel]

halo

can u gimme a summary of next patch

[crude nebula]

New stuff thats all

New tower, new mk2 building, new component and armor

New fluid (acid) and denser xiranite

[unreal laurel]

tower?

like defense tower?

[crude nebula]

Yes

[unreal laurel]

mk2 building?

you mean new mining rig?

[crude nebula]

Acid spray and fire mortar iirc

Water pump mk2 for acid

And the crucibel thing

[unreal laurel]

tf you mean denser xiranite

[crude nebula]

Heavy xiranite

[unreal laurel]

are we fr with that one

[crude nebula]

Yes

[unreal laurel]

why

[crude nebula]

Preparing HC bat in future maybe

I aint the dev

[unreal laurel]

im questioning many things

whats the banners?

how many more forges?

[crude nebula]

Full month fangyi and special "rerun banner"

8 forges

[unreal laurel]

rerun?

[crude nebula]

Ardel, pog, surtr and gilberta rate up

[upper fiber]

hmm not enough space...

[crude nebula]

With special ticket of course

[unreal laurel]

wtf is that

[crude nebula]

The rerun banner rate up

[silent violet]

joint op banner for ef

[unreal laurel]

does any of the stuff optimize xiranite production

[crude nebula]

More nordes to mine probably

[upper fiber]

still same xiranite factory i think, just doubled

[unreal laurel]

is it be assumed that we just combine it with the stuff that makes it dense

[crude nebula]

Yes

[upper fiber]

kinda full already just for 8 forge

[unreal laurel]

so we still have to rework our xiranite

[upper fiber]

12 forge need new subpac

[crude nebula]

Someone count based on the images preview. 2.5 normal xiranite for heavy xiranite

[unreal laurel]

wait.....

4+8?

or 8

[crude nebula]

Total 8

[unreal laurel]

ohhh good

[upper fiber]

+4 for 1.2

[unreal laurel]

this got me worried

[crude nebula]

Its the "leak" for future update

[upper fiber]

i'll just copy half 8 forge production and done

but no space now on main pac as well

[subtle finch]

updated it again with other's correction
saved one forge from purifying inert effluent
1 forge can now make 6/min sc bat with the purifying unit

[unreal laurel]

who tf is cramming 8 into 1 spot

[upper fiber]

12 forge need 2 subpac or larger subpac

[unreal laurel]

why tf are you making hypothetical bp's

[upper fiber]

i split the base production and forge

[unreal laurel]

i dont have enough energy for this rn.....

[solid quiver]

so it would be easier to understand and make layout easier at launch

[unreal laurel]

im fighting off a food coma

[upper fiber]

this still a mess though, will just leave it be, cbb

[silent violet]

its time to use stashes

[unreal laurel]

whatre we doing

why are we stashing mountains of random shit

[silent violet]

makes sense

[fluid fog]

Time to re-optimise my factory all over again XD

[upper fiber]

this better?

[unreal laurel]

why do we need an expanded crucible

[unreal laurel]

why are we stashing random shit

[fluid fog]

less crucible to build I guess?

[silent violet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464226275282653397

[solid quiver]

better formula and 2 reactions at once

[upper fiber]

what random, it is the HOLY Sandleaf

[unreal laurel]

why are we stashing it

[unreal laurel]

lemme cook 2 xiranites then

its only reasonable

[fluid fog]

yeah 2 recipe in one building if the recipes doesn't mich use intake and outtake more than 2

[upper fiber]

my forges are on main pac

[solid quiver]

you are producing something more abundant than originium or minerals unnecessarily

[unreal laurel]

wtf are we doing

[upper fiber]

splitting up factory

easy add on for 12 forge later

[unreal laurel]

what happened to having the whole thing be 1 setup

do we not do that anything

[upper fiber]

not meta anymore

it is modular era

[unreal laurel]

noooo

[fluid fog]

kekw

[solid quiver]

splitting plant production leads to worse yield rate btw

[coarse crater]

Am i missing something here? I need water treatment facilities to make cuprium parts, but i need cuprium parts to make the facility. What am i supposed to do with that? lol

[silent violet]

u dont, just put sewage into a fluid tank

[subtle finch]

dont they give you free treatment or cuprium parts at the beginning?

[pulsar cypress]

Do auto finish tutorial and u get it..

[fluid fog]

u should have extra c-parts for it worst... u can just make fluid tank for now.

[coarse crater]

Is it possible to edit an imported blueprint so i dont have to do it from scratch. I cant be assed to deal with this factoy stuff lol

[subtle finch]

im still in disbelief that heavy xiranite costs 2 xiranite + xircon effluent
something is not adding up

[fluid fog]

nope, u have to deploy it 1st before u can edit.

[upper fiber]

me when not realizing i got the facilities in my backpack and proceed to hacking the cuprium mine

[silent violet]

maybe we dont actually need it for anything significant

im not sure we getting new batts anyway

[coarse crater]

i have literally none, checked everywhere

[subtle finch]

that's what im hoping

[upper fiber]

do the tutorial

[silent violet]

heavy xira could just be for spraying and new comps

[upper fiber]

and check your depot

[pulsar cypress]

Do auto claim factory tutorial, u get free facilities..

[solid quiver]

or you can just directly pour into some ponds

[marble yarrow]

yeah there wasnt any hint of it shown in the program

[upper fiber]

uh i think we get the free facilities from AIC plan right, by using those wavy poles

[pulsar cypress]

U cant pour sewage..

[coarse crater]

Where is that? Is that the simulation thing?

[marble yarrow]

but its the same case as yazhen A, guess we'll wait for a few days

[pulsar cypress]

Yea, factory simulation thing.

[coarse crater]

Yeah it never gave me the free ones from any of that

[silent violet]

i think we are getting hc wul batt tbh cause we r getting cuprium version of xircon

[marble yarrow]

teaser

[upper fiber]

you should get free facilities if you upgraded this

[silent violet]

what else would you use it on besides new batt

[coarse crater]

Yeah its already completed, it did not give me the free ones for whatever reason though

[silent violet]

you do tho

[upper fiber]

check your valley IV depot as well

[coarse crater]

Yeah i double and triple checked just to make sure

[vale shoal]

Come on Hypergryph
Give us oil drilling

[upper fiber]

then go bombing or hacking the cuprium mine

just put the sewage on fluid tank first

[bright zodiac]

expecting ppl will end up with

6600 power consumption
or
9800 power consumption

soon

[subtle finch]

oh duh, totally forgot about this, you can now make sc battery without xiranite/forge i guess

[upper fiber]

still 3 forges for 1 heavy right

[subtle finch]

3 forge for first, 2 forge for 2nd heavy xir

[upper fiber]

huh

[subtle finch]

you can purify the inert to effluent

[upper fiber]

so...?

[round moat]

Context: To make an Explosives production chain that never clogs/idles, you need to make Aketine Powder be supplied at 1/5 of its original rate. But because 5 is a prime number, it can never be achieved using Splitters (divide by 2 or 3) and Convergers (addition of rates)

So what you need is this for 80.833 years of nonstop Bombs

5 lines of Aketine Powder

1. Split into 2, then 3 — 1/6
2. Split into 2 (5 consecutive times) — 1/32
3. Split into 2, then 3 (5 consecutive times) — 1/486
4. Split into 2, then 3 (9 consecutive times) — 1/39366
5. Split into 2, then 3 (13 consecutive times) — 1/3188646

Now, join all 5 lines into 1 belt with 2 Convergers

first converger takes 3 inputs and outputs 1, second converger takes that and 2 other inputs
Result:

1/6 + 1/32 + 1/486 + 1/39366 + 1/3188646
= 0.19999999608

Very close to 0.2 (1/5)

80 years of Bombs 😎

[upper fiber]

still need 2 xiranite input right

[subtle finch]

2nd heavy xiranite forge gets its effluent from purified inert

[upper fiber]

and use what to 'forge' it

[subtle finch]

oh, you're counting the forge itself

i was just counting the forge needed to make the materials

[solid quiver]

2 forges for 1 heavy, 2 heavy for 1 bat ig

so that we can use 8 or 12 forges

[upper fiber]

if we can make xiranite back from xircon eff... yeah

[marble yarrow]

aight 1.2 piping is ready

https://streamable.com/bcrhmk

[subtle finch]

im still unsure if we'll get the new battery this patch, we can still make 12/min of sc with my estimate maybe 18/min now, they also said heavy xiranite can be sold at the outpost
i hope im not wrong with this one, but so far, every new sellable products are more expensive than the previous

[marble yarrow]

"what the fuck is a conduit" ahh

[subtle finch]

let's pray its the right entrance

[static isle]

yall think I could squeeze further space or nah

[marble yarrow]

you can put your water treatment outside of base

also thats too much belts for the battery prod

[static isle]

wdym too much belts

[marble yarrow]

first put that water treatment in the top somewhere

[static isle]

the point is for this to be plug and play outside of the water main

like I can just plop more of these elsewhere

[marble yarrow]

it just looks stupid

place it somewhere

[static isle]

you can't do that if the water treatment is out of the setup

since you have to manually adjust it every time

[marble yarrow]

why would you put it there

[static isle]

again
space compact + modularity

I can just copy paste this somewhere else and have it work immediately once the water main + sewage main are plugged

[marble yarrow]

good luck with that

[static isle]

it's already working as is
I have two of these side-by-side

no space wasted
you can't do that if you put the water treatment out of the BP

[upper fiber]

don't mind, it is good if working

[subtle finch]

if you're happy with it, im happy

[marble yarrow]

next week you'll replace it with expanded reactor anyway

that 5 reactor gonna be just 1 normal and 1 expanded

[static isle]

rn this is 36x23
smallest I could find that also use sandleaf powder from depot, not just sandleaf
since most of us have leftovers from xiranite

[solid quiver]

you can move pylons to outside

but there's really no benefit in squishing too much

later you end up make it expanded

[bright zodiac]

and somehow the dev probably expect us to be at 6600 power consumption

[pulsar cypress]

[subtle finch]

should be doable with 1 expanded + 1 purification right?

[pulsar cypress]

Really?

How many input output pipes the new crucible have? Only 2 each right?

[subtle finch]

expanded crucible only has 2 fluid ports, you need to send water and sewage with a converger

[pulsar cypress]

But.. The last crucible need input value from 2 crucible right?
How it can be replaced with one new crucible only?

[subtle finch]

like this? ignore the sizes

[pulsar cypress]

Like.. If this 2 crucible process each merged to 1 new crucible..
There will be 2 new crucible needed..

[subtle finch]

not sure yet if purification has 1:1 ratio

[pulsar cypress]

So all will be done in 1 crucible only.
Need to check the time rate also..
It might slow down to like 3/s, 4/s, 5/s production?
Since it need to swap2 recipe?

Also the last process need to wait for 2x liquid production first..

Coz need 2 crucible output value to make one..

[subtle finch]

should be the same principle as backfed sewage, it should stabilize

#aic-factory message

i only got the idea from here

[upper fiber]

if we still need xircon

[pulsar cypress]

I mean.. If separate crucible, all 1 2 3 production happen separately.. So can make 1/s xircon..

But if only 1 crucible for all..
It probably like :
1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 3 (coz need double of step 2 output to start step 3)
So the xircon wont be 1/s..

[young igloo]

update coming this 17 right?

[subtle finch]

its all different recipe, so it should run in parallel

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Iirc..

[subtle finch]

same as you can make yazhen+jincao in one crucible but not double yazhen

[upper fiber]

we don't know how many xircon inert to eff ratio yet

[pulsar cypress]

Even if parallel, it will be :
(1+2 same time) + (1+2 same time) then goes to step 3.. It will be 1 per 2s production..
It cant multiply the results..

[subtle finch]

yeah, that was my disclaimer

[pulsar cypress]

If 5 crucible all goes same time can 1/s production.. Coz 2 crucible supply step 3 at same time..

That way, one crucible must do step 2 2x before start step 3..

[subtle finch]

that's the point of the purification unit

[pulsar cypress]

Its not about purification..

[subtle finch]

its making the effluent xircon in parallel that a single curible cant

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

psycho devs won't let us do it i'm sure

[pulsar cypress]

Oh.. The purification replace the 2nd crucible role..

[subtle finch]

i said earlier 1 forge can now make 6/min sc bat, that's what i meant

[static isle]

technically you got the lower half wrong

[subtle finch]

can also make sc bat without xiranite from that treatment facility.
weird times

[dusky quail]

Quick question, is a Reactor Crucible able to output two things simultaneously, or is it an alternating sequence?

I tried to use it to produce two jincao solutions, but saw it altering between outputs.

[upper fiber]

can't same output

[marble yarrow]

[upper fiber]

jincao yazhen can

jincao xira, yazhen xira

[dusky quail]

damn, so it has to be two different outputs, not 2x same output 😔

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message
i just said this

[pulsar cypress]

Can instantly at one time, but different type materials/output..

[dusky quail]

LMAOO

Thank you everyone!

I got turned off when I found out this. I'll do what I can to utilize the reactors

[marble yarrow]

pray that fluid supply unit can withstand the corrosion

[upper fiber]

you can't as well, i think, just like sewage

[subtle finch]

they forgot to give us acid resistant pipes

[upper fiber]

the liquid we use are processed already i think on mk2

not that acid anymore

[subtle finch]

if inert to effluent ratio is non 1:1, we're gonna have a messy build

[upper fiber]

1:1 is just too unreal

if added other input maybe can

[wispy grove]

Bro imagine the pipes just break out in the middle of the road

[upper fiber]

it even output 1 sewage? and 1 xircon eff

[subtle finch]

1 sewage is also some xircon eff with the new permanent facility

[marble yarrow]

wait imma also gonna ferry the free xircon effluent from the purification node in Test Area 😭

[subtle finch]

so maybe its 0.5+0.5 with that

[upper fiber]

if that's sewage, dunno maybe xircon inert inert

[subtle finch]

still a mess to transfer sewage that far though

[marble yarrow]

land path pls

[upper fiber]

hope it is close enough to use tele hack

[subtle finch]

would be interesting to not have land path

we finally bottling sewage to transfer?

[subtle finch]

tele hack?

[upper fiber]

tele while conduit connecting

[marble yarrow]

wait actually

[subtle finch]

zip tech is a thing, might finally be more useful

[marble yarrow]

gonna pipe this to base anyway

what is conduit

[upper fiber]

conduit>pipe

[marble yarrow]

🥀

[upper fiber]

at least not a M

[marble yarrow]

🐴

[wispy grove]

I havent open my game for 12 hrs now

Time to check

[upper fiber]

reg lv 11 should add more to 350 limit right, don't think pipes will get that though

[pulsar cypress]

Dev be like :
That's why we offer u the conduit pro max..

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/night-terrors-1

[pulsar cypress]

Need bomb pro max (with heavy xircon) probably to open the way..

[sharp pier]

that's the 2nd area ive seen that is evident for "future content" i guess

[crude nebula]

You guys setting up conduit already? Even when the map not opened yet

Wait is there the mk2 versiob for conduit? I kinda forgot

[upper fiber]

nope, he is setting up pipes, yikes

[sick basin]

Theres a double conduit now

[crude nebula]

Only real men do pipes when there is conduit in game

[sick basin]

2 inputs 2 outputs

[crude nebula]

In 1 machine?

[sick basin]

So u can throw 4 pumps worth into 1 conduit

That is to assume the new one also has 4/s flow rate

[crude nebula]

Great

[ruby sorrel]

I just had a thought, what if that green liquid going into forge for heavy is inert, does that stuff even look different in the pipes

[sharp pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1487445982571663400/nianattack.gif

[unreal laurel]

whats there to do....

my setup is fried but its getting replaced anyways

[ruby sorrel]

you can fry it again

[viscid plover]

Double it and give the to the previous person

[unreal laurel]

nahhhh