aic-factory

[cyan forge]

Oh, that part is, yeah

[vast iron]

in builds...

factory kinda useless

true

[cyan forge]

U mean like rebalancer n stuff?

[vast iron]

[cyan forge]

I mean, i typically only use stash for external storage

[vast iron]

last time i tried making a calculator

[cyan forge]

I prefer not using it at all in build if possible

[vast iron]

must spread stash propaganda

[cyan forge]

Oh, wtf

[vast iron]

[vast iron]

endfield is kinda buggy as of rn

i still dont know if the logic circuits are bug or not

[cyan forge]

Yeah

[vast iron]

idk im going on a rant

[cyan forge]

Man.. i kinda wish they let protocol stash's storage mode can act as external storage that connects directly to depo

[mighty pasture]

i'm in danger

time to remove 1 sc bat if possible

[uneven aspen]

is this fine for xircon production? No idea why it's not working

[mighty pasture]

One xiranite wrong output

[uneven aspen]

where?

[mighty pasture]

Top one

Link that top left to the one below the first

[uneven aspen]

you can move items through reactors though

it's 2 xiranite for 2 liquid xiranite reactors

[mighty pasture]

[stoic lark]

is your cuprium still being processed?

[uneven aspen]

this is not in-game

[stoic lark]

oh

[uneven aspen]

was just wondering if there's errors

[rocky niche]

your situation looks like you used BP that needs you to unlock all ori mining nodes in v4, but you still havent unlocked those, so now your usage is draining your ori stash. if this continued, expect to have power blackout

[uneven aspen]

i have my entire AIC replicated on https://enkad.enka.network/

[mighty pasture]

I have like 20 output afaik but I haven't seen if I did something st sub pac

[rocky niche]

to remediate this problem, you should now start finding the missing ori nodes and connect the mining rigs now, to help supply your draining ori supply

[mighty pasture]

All connected

[rocky niche]

not all are connected. 560/min is max for originium yield in v4

[mighty pasture]

I guess there's really something going on with my subpac

[rocky niche]

the problem isnt with your subpac. the problem is you havent unlocked all originium nodes yet

[mighty pasture]

Oh wait

Yield

[mighty pasture]

Hmmmmmm

[rocky niche]

which i said before to start finding those missing originium nodes you havent connected yet

[stoic lark]

i don't see any problems with it, haven't tried building outside of the game but i'm guessing you might have a rogue pipe that an incorrect fluid is hiding in, usually they hide in splitters/bridges/convergers

[mighty pasture]

I do have all nodes connected

[vast iron]

the blueprint looks like it should be working

no clue

[mighty pasture]

Unless there's foggy part of maps

Gonna recheck

[uneven aspen]

nah gonna assume it's some bug

just worried when doing it in-game

it will fail 😔

[mighty pasture]

One foggy spot
Gonna explore first

Found it
The factory is safe now

[fervent lodge]

hm. because it's producing sewage it constrains it to the production

so conduit no longer pulls it from thin air, it needs a supply

if you put a cuprum processing chain it'll work, but I should do something about it

[uneven aspen]

yup it's working now

also selection and bounds are different i think because of the pipe

[subtle finch]

it's called crucible passthrough
you can pass fluids and items through crucible if it can't process it fast enough or if it doesn't interact with any recipe

converger priority is still unreliable

[fervent lodge]

ye, pipes don't count

idk if they should

they can go oob so they're not as important

[vagrant sky]

hi sorry, anyone got the new rates for maximum profit in wuling? i was wondering what goods i should be making now

[subtle finch]

any of that you like

[vagrant sky]

god damn

[vagrant sky]

these are divided by how many cuprium components you can make, right? or is it different?

[subtle finch]

yes

[vagrant sky]

out of curiosity, whats the income vs outpost difference in each of them?

i see that up to 2.5 components, its a positive number, but at 3 components it goes negative

[subtle finch]

income is the price of the things you can produce, outpost is the bill the outpost can generate hourly. the difference is the extra production you cant sell

[vagrant sky]

aha ic, so at 3 components youre not making enough to empty out the outposts fully

last probably very stupid question

[subtle finch]

yes, unless you use battery from v4

[vagrant sky]

oh nvmd isee the issue

i was confused because i saw the lowest originium ore consumption rates were higher than my current yield but then i realized i was looking at current yield not theoretical

alright no more questions, thank you very much

[subtle finch]

it finally works, i hate it

[tender thistle]

What in tarnation

Is this for using 2 materials on one machine? Like when you want to use one gearing unit for both components?

[subtle finch]

yeah, this one works too, but it runs faster than intended. there's no delay between ingredient switching

[tender thistle]

Ah I see
So you let the fitting unit going to gearing unit clog, and then the cuprium ore goes to the other fitting unit

So instead of using splitters and controlling speed it's sorta dynamic and adjusts automatically

Nice

So sanity check

Has the offline belt speed shizz been fixed?

My factory looks horrid cz I separated raw materials from finished processes, and used splitters as belts for critical production and double belted everywhere where possible so I'm getting full 120/m xiranite and 11/m bats on my 24hr graph 🙈

Can I finally build a factory like normal with just single belts? 😅

[sacred tiger]

Somone has tips how to level up my region level in wuling and vally?

Cuz I need it to build my factory lol

I want to build in both places

[subtle finch]

it tells you here how to level it up
most come from outpost lvling
then upgrading those rabbit,depot node, owls and rigging

[sacred tiger]

Ohhhhh

[iron spoke]

how to connect conduits on enka?

[subtle finch]

pretty sure you dont need to, it goes to imaginary depot and subtracts from there if you take it out

[fervent lodge]

yeah they just act as depot loaders

simplest abstraction

[iron spoke]

how to start the simulation like Zombie was doing

my thing only showing the sandleaf because the water isn't registering I guess?

[fervent lodge]

works if you replace conduit with pump directly?

send bp ig, i'll check

[subtle finch]

i think its the same problem i had lol

it assumes the wrong carbon ingredient

change it to jincao->carbon

[fervent lodge]

what does it import as?

[subtle finch]

sandleaf->carbon

[fervent lodge]

OH

do you have bp view ingame at hand

[subtle finch]

EFO01I3A5II7i59u95o08 asia

[fervent lodge]

no, nvm
right
okay

makes complete sense actually
basically game reports only the end product

ugh

[subtle finch]

that's why i was asking for that debug tool

its like playing where's waldo

surely you can find that sequence in the topology and correct for it?

[visual oyster]

Help ples something eating my farium

And I’m not doing anything with jus farium in valley 4

[subtle finch]

did you set regional transfer to ferrium?

[iron spoke]

I feel ilke that's what I have set up

[fervent lodge]

import prob murdered the bp

[iron spoke]

oh. okay

growing pains

[subtle finch]

you need to use metastorage transfer, not stockpile transfer or that will take from your depot

[iron spoke]

no worries, I just new at using the tool

[fervent lodge]

send code?

i need something to test on

[fervent lodge]

honestly i should just expose incoming ingredient buffers
you'll immediately see what got there and what did not

[visual oyster]

Huh ? Are you saying it was sucking it out of my stock pile because I had it pulling from a depot ? But that’s doesn’t make sense it destroyed my valley 4 stock in wuling 🤔

[fervent lodge]

Anyone wanna try this one for fun https://endfieldfactorysim.dev/

mr president third planner hit the community

[subtle finch]

it was just an assumption, you need to be more clear about the issue

[visual oyster]

Anyone know what a cuprium factory suppose to look like production wise I think mine broke smh

[tall tangle]

sad fact. reactor can't boil 2 units of rice juice at the same time even if you give double input of rice and water
but it can boil rice and cotton juice at the same time. it forced me to make cotton drinks instead of yazhenC for sale

[fervent lodge]

120/m cuprium aka 4 belts

[fervent lodge]

yeah reactor is a big scam lmao

[subtle finch]

ah, new tool to learn and forget how to use after a few months

[fervent lodge]

it can't do recipes at twice efficiency, only different ones

[subtle finch]

you can do liquid xiranite and yazhen solution at the same time tho

[visual oyster]

That’s the issue , I had a depot pulling fermium into wuling , I assumed it used the 1 k I transferred, when I went to my hub base I almost fell over because it evapurated 45k farium 😭

[tall tangle]

but i cant sell swamp water unfortunately

[fervent lodge]

you can mail it to unsuspecting people

[subtle finch]

you are the only person i know not making sc batteries in wuling

its literally more than twice the price of lc

[visual oyster]

Can gib me yur swamp water

[cyan forge]

Aren't we all doing that?

[fervent lodge]

we all doing sc...

[cyan forge]

Yeah, we make sc

[subtle finch]

autocorrect

[visual oyster]

Me too lol I’m pumping out 12 of dem thangs a min

[cyan forge]

Oh w8 fk am blind

I missed the not

W8 did u just correct it or is my eye cooked?

[tall tangle]

wym? @subtle finch

[subtle finch]

that's lc

[subtle finch]

yeah i did

[cyan forge]

Xircon where

[tall tangle]

tbh i did use SC, but dumped them

[cyan forge]

The fk?

Why'd u dump em lmao

[subtle finch]

you cant possibly be clearing the outpost stock bills with whatever you are producing now

[cyan forge]

I mean, u can am p sure but u won't have much excess

[visual oyster]

How do I use protocol stashes to hoard bats

[subtle finch]

according here, the margins are really low

[cyan forge]

And u prolly need to be making yazhen or jincao c

[subtle finch]

you produce less than 9/min sc, and you're on deficit

[cyan forge]

Yeah, the margin is low but positive

[tall tangle]

cuz i hate sewage input mechanics

[subtle finch]

turn them off? and connect belts?

[cyan forge]

So what do u do w ur sewage

[visual oyster]

I mean like how can I make a storage line with den

[subtle finch]

i dont eat because i dont wanna deal with poop

[cyan forge]

Like external storage?

Turn em off

[visual oyster]

Does that add to total storage spes ?

[keen river]

yes and no

it doesnt increase the total storage, it just holds 6 stacks of whatever item you put in

jus disable the beltless transfer

[subtle finch]

you just snake them like this, holds 300 items each, but obviously doesnt show in depot

[cyan forge]

Yeah, like what i did

190 stash on subaic just to dump excess battery

[tall tangle]

ok what is there to be upset of? how much SC per minute are you making? it costs 54 per unit

while i make:
6 per min yazhenA (22bills+bonus)
6 pm jinkao (16)
12 pm LC (25)
even if i lose some, it's not much

[cyan forge]

6/min jincao? R u sure?

[subtle finch]

we make 12/min that's 54, so you're losing more than double of the most profitable item

[visual oyster]

Anyone figure out how to avoid clog sewerage

[cyan forge]

Water treatment

[subtle finch]

i assume you're making component at the same time as battery?

[cyan forge]

What's that supposed to tell me? That u r on ferium deficit?

[visual oyster]

Ye

[tall tangle]

well i mean yeah. otherwise it's less

[cyan forge]

How less is less

[subtle finch]

12x54x60 = 38,880 bills for sc per hour
12x25x60 = 18,000 bills for lc per hour

[cyan forge]

1.5k if u run into the belt will only last 50 min

[cyan forge]

Is lc actually that garbage? Wow

[tall tangle]

i dont want to math exact number

[cyan forge]

U don't have to, 5/min

[subtle finch]

you dont need to math out anything, you just need to look at this

[cyan forge]

What's the recipe for lc again?@hikari.n

How many dense ori and xiranite for 1?

Is it 15 dense + 10 xira?

[subtle finch]

yes

[cyan forge]

... The hell, it's so stupid expensive compared to sc

I didn't realize that

I thought u could make 24/min lc with 4 forges

I take back what i said, what he's doin is rly horrendous

[fervent lodge]

that was generally the case with v4 too

each battery/capsule is a crazy spike in income

[subtle finch]

i gotta be honest, this is not easy to explain.
the basic is you need an overflow valve, and you can just copy this to make it
you just need to make sure you're not throwing too much sewage, before it gets to the crucible, then if the crucible cant take the rest, it will overflow to the treatment unit

in the picture, my crucible is producing 5/min of battery, so that's 25/min of xiranite each crucible, im receiving 26.75 sewage. the rest will overflow to treatment unit instead of clogging the refinement unit

[cyan forge]

But one used amethyst tho which is meh

[fervent lodge]

i mean i'm still making 2 lcs

for the bit of power

i mean price wise

in wuling almost entire economy is xiranite bound

[tall tangle]

well i lose approximately 20% bills in comparison with SC trade. i'm ok with that. as a form of payment for not managing sewage in reactors

[cyan forge]

@visual oyster if u don't want any headache, just focus 1 forge on making xiranite for ur component.

The excess sewage ur xira is supposed to combine can be treated using 1 water treatment.

That's what i do in my base when i make part. Never overflow and no weird modulation

[cyan forge]

Uh... More like 50%

[tall tangle]

depends on what you do with red ore

[cyan forge]

We make 12 sc bat/min, u make 12 lc bat/min

[keen river]

red syringes are pretty worthless compared to batteries

[cyan forge]

The red ore isn't even used on battery

[keen river]

tangtang doesnt like needles, she doesnt pay much for syringes

[cyan forge]

Xircon only eat sewage

I don't get what u mean by depends

Am not even counting the battery u eat to power up ur factory

[tall tangle]

not making batteries allows me to craft other things to compensate

[subtle finch]

im not here to convince you what or what not to do
but you were saying what's the point of liquid xiranite for you., and for most of us, that's part of what makes the most profit

[cyan forge]

U lose like 10% more if u also use lc to power up ur wuling battery, so gg i'd say

[cyan forge]

Like what

[tall tangle]

this

[cyan forge]

Anyone w metastorage can make that jincao drink w similar efficiency while making sc battery

We are also making the same amount of yaz A

What r u making more to compensate?

[cyan forge]

Yeah so instead of u making 5 or 6 jincao drink, we can make 3/min

[subtle finch]

oh suddenly we like math

[cyan forge]

While the battery we make (same amount u produce), sells for 2x the price and more

[cyan forge]

[subtle finch]

batteries are the steak, and c and a grade meds are the fries and desert

[cunning obsidian]

is it worth adding pmw just to make a 1/4 speed line of syringe?

[subtle finch]

what are you exactly trying to do?

[cunning obsidian]

use wullings ferrium

but without it i'm right at single battery use

[cyan forge]

Make hc battery kekw

It's so good and cheap

[subtle finch]

not clear enough, can you show your aic report on what you're producing?

[cyan forge]

I think i get what he's doing. He's meta transwering ferium to make sum yaz syringe c.

It's worth, yeah but like they don't sell for much so it's kinda negligible

At 2.75/min or sth

[cyan forge]

Honestly i don't remember the exact efficiency

[cunning obsidian]

this middle tier of wuling stuff uses 0 ferrium

[tall tangle]

well yeah, i agree SC is more profitable. but my bills are allright, and, as i said, that is a price for not dealing with sewage. in my case i often switch to just cuprium parts production and it quickly halts batteries when depot is full.

[keen river]

sewage is really effortless to deal with tbh

[cunning obsidian]

my meta storage is busy just stuffing my wulling depot to capacity on parts of all types

[keen river]

no clue why its even a point

[subtle finch]

use metastorage transfer and get +25/min of ferrium not ferrium ore.
then do something like this.
limit ferrium with a 25/min belt limiter
this will get you 2.75/min C grade med

[tall tangle]

cuz when refinery stops, sewage output is 0

[fervent lodge]

then make syringe so it doesn't

[cunning obsidian]

don't let the refinery stop?

[cunning obsidian]

its more a question is it even worth the battery consumption

[keen river]

syringes are like the easiest component on earth to make tho

they dont even use grinding units

[fervent lodge]

shove goop in bottle done

[subtle finch]

yush, the issue here is you're a vegan surrounded by carnivores
it's hard to relate anything with what you're making compare to us

[fervent lodge]

just realized every single aic product is vegan

[tall tangle]

in my case i often switch to just cuprium parts production and it quickly halts batteries when depot is full.
i prefer visit game once a day, without cleaning depot every day at roughly 4am. for me it's simple

[subtle finch]

yes, because 3400power is the common allowance right now. you can still make it without exceeding that
no one really bothers with pwm lower than 3400 right now

[keen river]

there is no point in making piles of copium parts tho

at least make the copium components, they take like two weeks to fill

[fervent lodge]

copium comp requires xiranite tho

[keen river]

but really, the whole refiner setup is only this, its like one of easiest builds at this point of game

[visual oyster]

Ima be straight wif you , almost all dat went over my head

[keen river]

especially compared to stuff like v4 sc batteries

[visual oyster]

[fervent lodge]

or two of them

[subtle finch]

we're really tired explaining sewage overflow system

someone makes an infographic

[fervent lodge]

sounds like someone should write a guide!

[tall tangle]

well guide only helps those who didnt build SC's before

[visual oyster]

I jus don’t get wuling buildings , it’s not you guys , I did save dat stuffs when it sticks I’ll check agin

Don’t like wuling building everything so weird

[fervent lodge]

Wuling Very Large Headache

[bright zodiac]

12 SC need 60 Xircon
60 xircon need sewage from 120 cuprium and 120 xiranite

as simple aa that, so long your cuprium doesnt stop producing.

also no matter how you utilize which sewage to use, you will end up with 6 water treatment for 60 xircon

just reduce those number altogether if you reduce the ratio,

👌

[visual oyster]

I’m doing dis one ye

[bright zodiac]

9SC means only need 45 xircon
90 cuprium 90xiranite

easy rite?

almoat forgot....

12SC 60ferrium
9SC 45ferrium

[subtle finch]

i have this one, this actually works for anything between 0-5/min of battery

it deals with extra sewage without extra treatment unit

[bright zodiac]

the filtering system might be too much if you show them

[visual oyster]

[bright zodiac]

honestly 9SC is straight more easier and friendly to split or manage if you dont like to think too much just to setup

or.... copy others

[subtle finch]

i had 9sc setup before, its easy because you can throw half the sewage input. good ratio

[visual oyster]

[left bear]

idk how to use up the extra space effectively without usage going above yield
already have yazhen at max using up all my corpium ores yield
all batteries at max so i'm using up my originium and ferrium too..

and there's so much space left idk what to do with..

[visual oyster]

I put stuff together till it works

[keen river]

its wuling, you just have a lot of unused space one way or another

[tall tangle]

space is not an issue even if you make fat production blocks

[visual oyster]

It not working yet🤣

[left bear]

it was a bad idea to compact it i guess bc now it's too efficient for what's available lol

[visual oyster]

More ore when 🥲

[left bear]

they yearn for the mines

[bright zodiac]

dont wprry, u will see hell when HC wuling drop

[visual oyster]

Hc ?

[left bear]

purple bat from V4

but wuling variant

[tall tangle]

tier3

[subtle finch]

ill make it as dumb as possible, if you have problem with sewage clogging, put this in between your sewage line.
of course power the treatment unit

[left bear]

LC
SC
HC

[visual oyster]

Huh

?

Isnt sc the purple one ?

[left bear]

LC bats are the green ones
SC bats are the blue one
HC are the purple one

wuling has now LC and SC

[keen river]

both wuling batteries have same rarity

[visual oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

Gooo away , or gib more mines

[bright zodiac]

still gonna bet, HC wuling will have Xircon fluid bs shenanigans down the line further with some cuprium new product line perhaps

and its gonna be gold color battery

[left bear]

i have 3 forges running on bottom of main, loading in mats
then in stockade its's just battery city + fitting which is delivered back to main to make meds

[subtle finch]

only thing we know is different colored liquids, and 6 wide crucible

[visual oyster]

Cuprium components , compact xirite powder and dragon mommy bath water just because 🫣

[fervent lodge]

looks like luqueified copper ngl

finally,

[visual oyster]

Can I pull mats out a depot in to the aic 🤣

[fervent lodge]

aic is technically the depot

[visual oyster]

But the thing from earlier

[keen river]

it also has 8 instead of 5 pipes on side 🤔

[visual oyster]

I was using valley 4 farium in wuling

[subtle finch]

are you regional development level 12 in valley 4?

[visual oyster]

I had no farium in wuling it was going into the next process line 😗

[visual oyster]

Ye

[subtle finch]

make sure you are in metastorage transfer mode, that gives you 1500 ferrium per hour for free

[visual oyster]

What the heck’s dat thing ?

[keen river]

thats just generic crucible

[keen river]

while this is the new one from trailer

[visual oyster]

Looks weird

[subtle finch]

maybe just an indication that it can do parallel or 2 step process more intuitively

[keen river]

4 more days till the mystery is partly solved

btw, anyone knows if there is some place to report geometry bugs? 🤔

[subtle finch]

report it to euclid

[keen river]

found a big ass hole under the wall near the monitoring center

oh well

[iron spoke]

that uses only half the remaining dense originium right? how do you spend the other half?

[keen river]

in case some dev notices this 🦥

[subtle finch]

so far, there will always be leftovers unless you make hc bat with it

[tall tangle]

how about way to deal with storage not to have leftovers?

its cursed but fun

[leaden drift]

No secret Unlock for factory? Shame

[keen river]

nope

although the excess xp gets converted into credits, at pittable rate

[leaden drift]

damn

[tall tangle]

for me that was a secret after my 60

[subtle finch]

there's definitely lots of work put into it, but i can't get it to do the simplest thing

[river wadi]

is there an easy way to have a forge of the sky switch between xiranite production and bumper rich production

[subtle finch]

I think I saw someone made something for that but can't find it now

I imagine it's gonna be tricky to switch fluids, its easier to just move the forge to a layout waiting for it

[cunning obsidian]

is the platue by the crane reachable to put a zipline?

this is valley pass

[fervent lodge]

first thing i tried was rotating a depot

failed miserably

[subtle finch]

does it look vibe coded or taken from elsewhere?

the order of feature implementation and changelog is questionable

i like the infer recipe feature

[fervent lodge]

infer nice yeah
i'll need to do infer to fix bp import

it's trivial tbh

[fervent lodge]

and if you couldn't tell, yes yes it is

[subtle finch]

[fervent lodge]

also i wanted to add multiplayer at some point too

but idk, that'd be incredibly low usage for lots of effort

[subtle finch]

i love how seamless the file system and sharing now

[fervent lodge]

you mean in mine?

[subtle finch]

yeah

[fervent lodge]

yeah that was the goal from the start

[subtle finch]

i thought it saves a new instance before every time you save, but i noticed the link stays the same

[fervent lodge]

i wanted a good workspace to fool around rapidly

[fervent lodge]

ye, you have an edit key saved locally

backup them to not lose

[subtle finch]

i saw that

[fervent lodge]

oh right i wrote that didn't i

also i softlocked that planner

tried to enter 150 as area size

entered 5150

shit exploded and stays exploded after refresh

[frigid pine]

I finished basic AIC III, is there a IV? When do I get it?

[atomic swan]

Sadly, there is no 4th Basic AIC Plan. It goes up to 3 for now in V4.

But you do keep all the machines you researched from V4 in Wuling. It just has a different AIC Plan.

[narrow garden]

what're max wuling ore rates?

[true furnace]

480 Originium, 90 Ferrium, 120 Cuprium

[magic geyser]

What do you do with the extra 30 ferrium ore per min, after making two batteries and 1 syringe?

[upper fiber]

huh

syringeA or C

[magic geyser]

A

[upper fiber]

make C too or valley HC bat

[hoary crag]

syringe C or jincao drink

you can even make use of metatransfer for extra ferrium to boost prod

[sonic summit]

holy discount

[neat elbow]

Anyone got a compact sandleaf farm?

[river wadi]

just loop a seed picking unit and planting unit together

[neat elbow]

I know, just wondering if someone has something for mass production and compact. Need to make 320/min and mine takes up a lot of space lol

[hoary crag]

I think planting loops have been compacted to its smallest size already

[mighty pasture]

not really
try a plant unit - picking unit - plant unit

[river wadi]

1 seed picking unit feeding into 2 planting units is the best if you have 1 planting unit feed back into the seed picking unit so the other one will print 30 sandleaf per min

[mighty pasture]

remove the shredder and just place stash there

how much is the max originium yield at wuling?

[hoary crag]

but since they need more than one planter, they could mirror the loop and have them share one stash

[mighty pasture]

ooh

btw how much SC battery sell for?

[subtle finch]

what are you doing with all that sandleaf

[mighty pasture]

the ultimate zaza farm

[hoary crag]

can't blame them 😭

[neat elbow]

Rolling it and selling it on dijang

[subtle finch]

i just hope its not all for xiranite

[neat elbow]

Lol I need it for the batteries, and xiranite.

[subtle finch]

you're doing fluid panters right?

because you shouldnt be needing that much sandleaf in wuling

[neat elbow]

I make 12 batteries per minute, plus 6 HC batteries per minute

[neat elbow]

Yes. Yahzen gets used for xiranite

[subtle finch]

[mild imp]

My very first t3 battery set up 💜

[neat elbow]

I make the HC batteries because that way I only use 1 sc wuling batteries per minute

[viscid plover]

this is slightly more compact than the usual standard 3 next to each other having the pylon outside also means it can share with other facility (compare to the 2nd image)

[mild imp]

Wtf

[viscid plover]

but also means if you want to shut them down is 9 going down together

[neat elbow]

This is similar to what I'm using now. I'll just stick with what I have

[viscid plover]

ye it's common

[subtle finch]

i just go all the way and use no sc at all

[viscid plover]

welcome to the SC hoarding team

[neat elbow]

How are you using none?

All hc batteries?

[viscid plover]

V4 overproducing be like

[subtle finch]

its chen running on a hamster wheel

[viscid plover]

i think i will reach the point of having meds at cap during 1.2 even when i already transfer max to wuling
just have to start making bottles and put liquid in them to reserve farrium at some point

[neat elbow]

I buy all the gifts every week and all the elastic goods lol. Wish my stockpile looked like this. Plus all the engraving tickets and sanity usage permits

I buy everything lol.

[viscid plover]

yea but this has nothing to do with how much you buy in elastic store as your outpost can only sell so much

[neat elbow]

Ya but the stable goods refresh every week and I buy them all

Even the food. Just stockpiling them for no reason lol

[viscid plover]

bottleneck here is outpost unable to purchase from you

well i don't buy the food so you got that going
i just hoard elastic goods

im ready to pull a 2008

[vale shoal]

So there is a way to set up factory for V4

That that there are surplus resources to transfer to wuling?

[young igloo]

theres a thing called meta transfer

it transfer ghost good from v4

[subtle finch]

my production developed clogging icons again even with a flat aic report

[young igloo]

[bright zodiac]

metatransfer is stolen goods from v4 ppl to wuling

tax by endmin

[leaden drift]

I need more bottled xiranite

I mean Baja blast

[viscid plover]

🤓 two birb one originium if you need to slow down battery production in wuling and med in v4

[vale topaz]

sandleaf seed for the sandleaf god, sandleaf powder for the sandleaf throne.

[small creek]

Finally bothered to count the exp from afk alluvium, here's my findings:

• Contrary to my first hypothesis, they did not decrease the daily combat exp limit from 10k to 5k. It stayed at 10k
• What actually happened was that they shadow buffed the exp you get from killing each mob, specifically they doubled it.
• However, they failed to update the text that appears on the bottom left. (Text says 30 exp but you actually got 60 exp, 150 but 300 for elites, etc)

I was wondering why ever since 1.1, it only took 10 alluvium runs worth of enemies to max out instead of the usual ~20

now i know why

at least they made it much faster

[vale topaz]

never bother to lvl up operator using alluvium, maybe 1-20 is ok, but 21 to 40 or even 60, nope : /
but very useful for that inventory library milestone.

[small creek]

Its a small increase but still nice for those with time and patience
This is my perlica who was lv20 when 1.1 dropped

now shes almost 40

same thing with avy and arclight

[vale topaz]

everyone in my roster already 40 at minimum, to unlock their dijiang passive.
i'm slowly turning them all to lvl 80 with skill lvl of 9 and weapon lvl of 80

[small creek]

u can still do 40-60 lol

[vale topaz]

tried , too long ._.
the exp tick was horrendous.

[silent violet]

holy 0 sanity activities

[young igloo]

leveling require sanity man

and im pretty insane rn

[silent violet]

how r ppl willing to do ts

im at the point where im just doing t creds to make the number go up cause i ran out of things to spend sanity on

[vale topaz]

even with gilberta help pulling them into in front of fame thrower, this still take some time, the exp reward and stock bill are not worthy enough : /

[young igloo]

im spamming essence as i only leveled 1 comp

trying to make em sig brighter

[vale topaz]

i'll spam essence once my roster safely reached 80 and skill lvl 9

[silent violet]

lv0-40 is probably like 20 sanity worth of level mats 💀

[young igloo]

then after 60 shit get serious

80 to 90 is basically a scam

worthless minmaxing for casuals

[small creek]

Me when the game has nothing to do

[silent violet]

dawg just play something else lmao

[small creek]

I also play the og arknights

but like

thats it

[silent violet]

pick something else up

[small creek]

i only play 2 games max at a time too

nah

cant

3+ fucks my sched up

[young igloo]

on 3 rn, but im not even doing anything much

[silent violet]

playing ak ef and og ak takes like 15 mins max per day on non update days

[young igloo]

i havent finished the main quest on wuwa tho

this game too lmao

[small creek]

I did used to play wuwa but

[young igloo]

if its not time limited leave it there

[small creek]

dpm was the last straw

[small creek]

i mean yea sure but i play other games and do other things sporadically

[young igloo]

dpm?

[vale topaz]

playing tower of fantasy and aether gazer.... go ahead, comment dead game : /

[young igloo]

ded asf lmao

[small creek]

so it adds up and eventually i figured i can only play 2 max

[bright zodiac]

wuwa.... from 45GB day1 to 150GB

[small creek]

wuwa new endgame, double pawn matrix

its basically toa but hp bloat

[bright zodiac]

endfueld day1 65GB is concerning

[young igloo]

ah yeah that shit

[small creek]

idk why ppl are shilling the mode, its boring

hp bloat has always been boring

[young igloo]

due to my skill issue i cant even get all astrite

[vale topaz]

[small creek]

the combat also got stale for me

at some point it just turned into rot spam simulator

[bright zodiac]

hp bloat every new season of gacha game (need you to max out absolute limit and get new meta unit, also need you to play perfectly)

[small creek]

not even

i just use the same shit

still clear

i mean thats good cus that means the powercreep is kept in check

but "playing perfectly" is just doing the same rot over and over

[young igloo]

tower and whiwa still good tho

[small creek]

ig what im saying is theres little to no skill expression

[pulsar cypress]

Me with my high skill issue..
What is it again dpm..
Open the tab, oh yea, close the tab again..

[small creek]

and hp bloat did not help

[silent violet]

have you considered picking up a game that doesnt force you to log in daily and you can just pick it back up whenever you have nothing else to do

[bright zodiac]

its not just 1title

most other game also embrace this issue, dev dont play their game, they make game, player play the game, they want money, thats all

[small creek]

arc raiders

didnt last

also the sporadic games i mentioned probably count under that

[silent violet]

ye i didnt rly fw arc raiders that much either

[young igloo]

sometime i just download rando itch io game and call it a day

[silent violet]

it was fun when nobody else knew what they were doing for like a couple weeks then ppl started sweating and i didnt play enough or watch enough yt shorts to compete

[mighty pulsar]

[small creek]

maybe the extraction shooter genre is just cookd lowk

i also wanna play sts2 but im waiting for a sale lol

[carmine whale]

can we use buck capsule C for deliveries?

[young igloo]

uh why not buck ?

[mighty pulsar]

You should deliver gears

[vale topaz]

if that's the best thing you can produce right now, yes, you can use it for delivery.

[vale topaz]

[vale shoal]

what should be use for for delivery then?

[vale shoal]

Yeah but for things like "AIC products" that I don't have a surplus of

Is that where the "ghost" part come into play

[vale topaz]

each depot lvl have their own list.
lvl 1 accept ores, beyond lvl 1 no more ores allowed.
i don't memorize the list too much.
think lvl 3 accept medicine powder from shredded plants.
lvl 4 accept batteries / gear component.

[vale shoal]

I delivered bombs

I always used bombs

But like what is the best cost to profit things should people use

[young igloo]

thats the good part, u dont, cuz profit is capped anyway

theres no point to consider which good to delivery bc theres always leftover for u to delivery

[vale shoal]

500 cigarette delivery for 300k LMD

[young igloo]

and at some point valley bill basically have no value anymore

as well as all v4 product

[vale shoal]

Sorry valley cred

[small creek]

v4: sandleaf powder
wuling: the extra yazhen powder u couldnt turn into yazhen syringe C

[vale topaz]

if you want profit, should not use high value items which can be sold to region, like buck / batteries unless you manage to depleted depot stock and no more use of them.

[young igloo]

i even got my xiranite deliveried

[small creek]

wtf

might as well burn money

[young igloo]

58k rn, was boring

this is real money, bills are scam

[vale topaz]

amethyst / ferrium part if still possible are ok, fast to produce and region only price them as 1 stock / pcs

[young igloo]

i cant find arsenal emoji, maybe theres none

[vale topaz]

for wuling, right now at lvl 3, i'm using medicine powder, fast to produce.

[small creek]

18/18 in valley 4 produces some extra sandleaf powder, you can use that for depot

for wuling, its yazhen powder from syringeC

[young igloo]

these are fragile wuling delivery, aka the highest profitable delivery rn

[vale shoal]

People store sand leaf powder?

[young igloo]

thats leftover

[vale shoal]

Oh okay

[vale topaz]

for v4, right now still using left over armor component.... once that done, probably will use buck / batteries since region keep running out of stock to trade

[iron spoke]

how early do we need to stop with the stock bills so that we can immediately spam prosperity on patch drop?

[vale shoal]

Bomb

[young igloo]

3d

[vale shoal]

So when is next patch

[young igloo]

iirc i got to lv3 tang clan outpost in the same night 1.1 drop

[small creek]

in 15 days

[vale topaz]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1462829207385149617/1484766316127588414/content.2e3967fe.png?ex=69c20ee3&is=69c0bd63&hm=02c49dbf29bc065326fe528615b513ed4f77771facb14c9e4cc5fac0354d287d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1111&height=1019

[vale shoal]

Damn

[vale topaz]

no end date at roadmap

[small creek]

wait no

8 days

no 9

fuck

uggggghhhh

[vale shoal]

There is only 1 outpost currently in wuling right

[small creek]

all i know is

16

[vale topaz]

yes

[sick basin]

Stream is 11th
But rossi only has like what, 10 or 9 days left on banner

[young igloo]

get some proper sleep man

[small creek]

yea i didnt sleep well last night

[sick basin]

Come back to bed and cuddle babe

[young igloo]

update date will soon be announce

just wait

[small creek]

😳

[small creek]

i told u my brain was fried last night

i wasnt lying 😢

[hidden temple]

did you use lifeng/tang for bonus prosperity? pretty sure max outpost sales was an instant lv4 the minute it went live

or was that prosperity bonus rng

[small creek]

still fried today

[young igloo]

my dumb ass sell all before i gacha tangtang

have both of them rn

[bright zodiac]

for delivery, always send out maxed powder

any powder is abundant resource that should be overflow

[young igloo]

but not at that moment

[river wadi]

is it supposed to take 5 reactor crucibles to make xircon

[bright zodiac]

idk how ppl keep sayin they are so poor they dont have anything to max out delivery

[young igloo]

yeah

a stable 30/m xircon line take 5

[vale topaz]

you can go with 3, but that's not efficient way

[young igloo]

u can go 3 each but 15/m line tho

ended up with 12 crucible and wasted 100 power

btw u can use 1 crucible for 2 formula at once, i personally dont do it in my build but its viable

idk if its intended tho

[iron spoke]

impractical for anything that isn't meds

[young igloo]

thats 50 more power preserved

have to make yazhen anyway

uh im a bit slow can u elaborate whats your point?

[vale topaz]

uhm didn't you ask about making yanzhen syringe ? that's the A version....

[iron spoke]

he said have to not how

[vale topaz]

..... my eye really need a fix

[young igloo]

wait nah nvm

[iron spoke]

but it is a lot to encroach on your xircon space.

if that was a point as well

and if you want to direct feed your xircon your battery production is already eating that space

[young igloo]

thats an option tho, ive seen a hybrid build somewhere

[vale topaz]

without conduit, that's a spaghetti of piping.

[young igloo]

like an advanced option for those who like to work around the aic

[small creek]

it is

[young igloo]

arent we all ?

[small creek]

i have one myself

[young igloo]

i love my spaghetti

[small creek]

and its ugly and hard to read

but it saves a lot of power

[young igloo]

same with stash

power consumtion problem but its nice to have

[river wadi]

can i use the liquid xiranite produced from the reactor crucible and directly use that for xircon effluent proudction in the same crucible

[vale topaz]

wouldn't spaghetti pipe / belt with lots of splitter/converger/bridge take more building slot compared having production line on their own ?

[young igloo]

that need like 3 fluid input no ?

yeah 3 different fluid input, not gonna work

maybe wait til the patch drop, theres an upgraded version there

[small creek]

thats where the challenge is

not using pipe logistics

[iron stratus]

still would need 4 reactors for the eff since each would be running half speed

[vale topaz]

: / i'll stay with my procedural deployment then.... much easier to troubleshoot.

[upper fiber]

not using 2 conduit but 3 more belt bridge is worse

[young igloo]

yeah ratio problem also

[small creek]

it is definitely easier yea

im proud of how low my power consumption is, but it sure is hard to read now

[hidden temple]

I think technically it can work? reactor can produce liquid xira internally with water and xira, then if it's receiving sewage then it can spit out effluent. tho dunno if the facility had enough storage for all those ingredients + inert

if it can, problem is it can't produce both at the same time reducing efficiency

[young igloo]

it only have 5 slot tho

[hidden temple]

ah the facility inventory? yeah that's what I wasn't sure about

[small creek]

if only it had 6

we can run liquid xir and xircon eff in 1

[vale shoal]

5000 originium bomb delivery

[young igloo]

thats gonna make things lot easier

[upper fiber]

would be funny if new reactor make the crucible obsolete in 1 patch

[vale topaz]

think, current liquid separator device already obsolete

[upper fiber]

nah, it is unique since the only way to do that is by manual

just no use yet

[hidden temple]

can automate it if you do filling unit into separator

[hidden temple]

when it comes to a mode exercising skill expression, I will glaze ZZZ's battle trials to my last breath
it's the only 3d gacha endgame I'll ever praise for immaculate mechanics

every other's feel bareboned in comparison or stale
only other engaging ones off the top of my head are ba's torment raids and ak's CCs

which aren't the same gameplay so doesn't count

[upper fiber]

those gamemodes are exciting for the 1st time only, after that it is just a chore

[small creek]

ch16 was fun

H16-4 was just devs trolling and i loved it

[rain geyser]

maybe its time to demolish it

[young igloo]

yeah thats alot of logistic

[carmine whale]

when just entering wuling is there anyway to get bills fast? whats the best thing/build to farm first which can give me good amount of wuling bills

[hidden temple]

unlock/upgrade depot node and stock redistribution asap
you'll get easy capital to do so from environmental monitoring

oh and ofc upgrade envt mntr

[pulsar cypress]

And like usual, explore map and mine all ore available first..
Before stepping to factory..

Grab all the factory upgrade balloons available..

[shrewd knoll]

mug everything that moves

[pulsar steeple]

My SC production dropped by 98% because my Syringe A are maxed out and as a result Cuprium are maxed out also yesterday, and i did not know it happened until like 8 hours earlier, result, Xircon depleted, and only producing like 2-3 SC per minute

[hollow drum]

i managed to get 12/min sc batt and 6/min yahzen A from my AIC and now I have Endfield brainlag

[pulsar cypress]

Time to make some tea..

[pulsar steeple]

Can't sell it and no real use for me for now, well, maybe until 1.2 came out

you know what, prolly later

[pulsar cypress]

Mine already cap tea also, now back to syrA, spam sell it for bills..
*postpone it for getting cap faster..

[small totem]

any idea on how can i fill this part of the big base in V4 instead of this Buck capsule C factory.

[hollow drum]

rework your AIC to make sure that slot gets filled

[small totem]

should i just make this part the max efficiency one instead by putting 2 more amethyst unloaders there

[hollow drum]

did you unlock everything in v4?

[small totem]

????

Wha?

Oh

yeah i did

i kinda completed the game, it's just that this part is bugging me like hell

i tried few things, but the symmetry is off

[hollow drum]

why do you want to swap off buck C

i think its like, part of the min-max output on v4

either buck C or citrome C

[small totem]

Oh no no mate

i believe you got it wrong

[small totem]

i got them at max one

it's just that small space i;ve

i want to fill it with some sort of factory

i had like 60/m amethyst left, so i was like, why not use it

[hidden temple]

are you already using up the remaining 20/min ori yield

[small totem]

Nope

[hollow drum]

huh

[hidden temple]

can make some slow LC production using that ori and redistributing some of that ame

[hollow drum]

how do you have 60/m amethyst left with 24 buck C / min

[small totem]

this one is after i put down the factory

[hollow drum]

i mean

[small totem]

the 60/m was left, so i made the factory rn

[hollow drum]

18 / 18 / 24 is already max / optimal output from V4 AIC so you did the right thing

[small totem]

hence, you got the 24 one

i'm just thinking to repurpose the space tbh

[small totem]

yeah, let me see if i can fit it there or not

[hollow drum]

ok i still dont understand why you want to switch off optimal production

18/18/24 should also, theoretically, use up all your ores in V4

[small totem]

the thing is that 18/min is already enough, i still have some Buck cpasule A left even after selling, rn, i just want to make it look pretty by filling that space up

that's all

[hollow drum]

thats the reality of V4 atp

I have 30k batteries left over after draining my outposts

[small totem]

yeah, so if i can't sell all, so i might just try to make it look pretty

plus also try to use all the ores i've yet to use

[hollow drum]

yea and what im saying is, theres not much you can make other than amethyst products

cuz 18 / min buckA and HC batt should take up all your Ferr and Orig

[small totem]

yeah, except battery and healing thing

[hollow drum]

if theres leftover, something is wrong

i think its 1080/min ferr and 960/min orig in v4

[small totem]

i mean, i can make cryston stuffs, but why is that even needed rn

as i've shit ton of rods for ziplines

960/min Orig.... HUH

[hoary crag]

assuming your 18/min Buck Cap A is on core AIC

you could have a near symmetrical corner version of your Buck Cap A line there

[hidden temple]

18/18/24 puts you at 540/560 ori usage/yield

[hollow drum]

oh wait its 560

[hidden temple]

ye there's spare 20/min people usually just make crusts with

[hollow drum]

oh i remember now

yeah 20/min isnt good enough for anything lol

[hoary crag]

I still don't get why they gave us an extra 20/min lol

like

why

[hollow drum]

v4 hidden area

[hoary crag]

and based on the actual factory setup

I'd even rather have it at 540 than 570

[hidden temple]

at least if you ever make stuff outta ori, depot will replenish and not stay stagnant at whatever you left it

[small totem]

I tried it, but man it looked off, specially when the sides of the base were empty. and the mid part wasn't looking good too

[hollow drum]

one high purity node is like 30 / min right?

[hoary crag]

lol

[hoary crag]

for me I just stopped caring

my corner line isn't symmetrical but it does the trick ig

[sick basin]

1 every 3 seconds
So 20

[small totem]

if only i can do that...... i try to make it as symmetric as possible

[hollow drum]

oh so theres one extra orig node

[hollow drum]

for no clear reason

[hidden temple]

low purity is 1 per 6s and high is 1 per 3s I think
so 10/min then 20/min

30/min is the unload speed

[hoary crag]

although for wuling it's non-negotiable for me as well

the lines have to be either symmetrical or repetitive

[small totem]

lol

[hollow drum]

trying to make the crucibles symmetric

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

[hoary crag]

my wuling AIC is focused more on repetition than symmetry

[hollow drum]

at least they fixed the xiranite sandleaf line

by making the sc battery take 4 powder / unit

[hoary crag]

and then my planned 6-8 forge setups for 1.2 are instead focused more on symmetry

[small totem]

The great wall of Protocol Stash

KEKW

[hollow drum]

theyre adding MORE FORGES?

[hoary crag]

no confirmed number yet

but the most popular speculations are 6 or 8

[hollow drum]

this already absorbed all my life energy

[hoary crag]

I already made layouts in advance for both

[small totem]

Bruh i was planning to rebuild the Wuling base, but i should wait....

[hoary crag]

lmao

[hollow drum]

i had to go for a rebuild after stocking up on cuprium comps

[small totem]

same

[hollow drum]

but im not touching the base again until 1.2

[hoary crag]

my 6 forge layouts, although the second one is my take on someone else's 6 forge design here

8 forge

there's also speculation that we might get 7

[small totem]

i rebuild the wuling base like 3 times, then again 2 times after Cuprium showed up

[hoary crag]

I've only seen one 7 forge layout here so far tho

[hollow drum]

is this in Core?

[hoary crag]

sub-pac

[hollow drum]

ah

[hoary crag]

fully self-sustainable 6 and 7 forge layouts are possible in sub-pac

but 8 forges forces you to put the planter loops off site

tho there is someone here who still believes a self-sustainable 8 forge layout is possible in sub-pac

[hollow drum]

i prefer whole production lines instead of one PAC producing only one thing

so my PACs look a lot more chaotic lol

[hidden temple]

scene cuts to said individual, diligently optimizing their factory

[ruby sorrel]

hmm how many days to patch again? 10? I need to adjust my inventory so I don't cap

[hoary crag]

fast forward to the final episode at the point when we're about to win

then mf pulls out the 8 forge setup as their trump card, revealing they managed to do it thru the power of friendship 😭

[upper fiber]

power of stashes and depot

[hoary crag]

I need someone to remind me to put protocol stash plushies as a suggestion in their next survey

[vale topaz]

make it a pillow

[hoary crag]

yes

you'd have to put it on its side tho if you want to use it as a pillow, unless if you plan to hug it or smth

[hidden temple]

depot bus node throw pillow w/ 2 bus section pillows

[hoary crag]

I would buy that

[keen river]

+7 forges seem super likely in 1.2, although i wonder if we will keep using all 11 of them for basic xiranite

[real crescent]

inb4 the next sub pac is slightly bigger making it possible

[hidden temple]

thought about some kinda dense xiranite but realized that's already what xircon is

[fervent lodge]

light xiranite instead

[keen river]

i think we will combine xircon or one of liquid xiranies with something in the forge to get material for tier 3 batteries

and i wouldnt be surprised if the material was the valley 4 quartz ore too

[upper fiber]

nope, liquid cuprium

[ruby sorrel]

time to grind xircon with more sandleaf then mix it with more liquid xiranite for dense xiranite liquid or something silly

[vale topaz]

shred cuprium into powder, insert into crucible with water to make liquid cuprium then add inert xiranite and xircon with sewage as byproduct.

[fervent lodge]

"pure xircon"
needs to be washed in 3 successive crucibles with water, sewage and jincao

[ruby sorrel]

grind it and refine it and make a dodecahedron "packed xircon powder"

[fervent lodge]

new tough gummy just dropped

[bright ocean]

Guys Ive maxed out the mining qty of the ore possible so far for wuling. I'm currently having 1 unit of red component maker, 1 yazhen a maker and 2 sc wuling battery maker.
I currently v close to maxing out my use of ores but I have an excess of xiranite.

Is there anything that I can make w thos exiranite?

[wispy grove]

comps

[ruby sorrel]

how is there excess xiranite

rebalance your production

[fervent lodge]

future patch stash or something

[ruby sorrel]

I mean they're already at depot limit

[bright ocean]

Wdym comp

[wispy grove]

components

for gear

make more

[bright ocean]

Ok ty

aic is hard

I fail at physics and I fail at aic

[wispy grove]

yeah i dont think youre making 2 sc wuling at max eff

[ruby sorrel]

xircon usage 20 is 4/min something is really wrong

not to mention it's not even close to flat

[bright ocean]

is my 2 battery not optimised?

i got 4 dense originium powder path and 1 xircon path to each battery maker

1:4 portion as required by the formula

[fervent lodge]

that sounds right

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I have no idea why your actual xircon prod/use is so off

[fervent lodge]

however because your stuff is capped, you're getting unreliable numbers

[ruby sorrel]

45 yield is nonsense if your depot for xircon isn't even capped, and usage at 20 is ???

[fervent lodge]

it's not nonsense

this checks out

because only 90 xira is consumed

exactly 3/4 of what needs to be consumed

[ruby sorrel]

oh what xira 90

[bright ocean]

Upon closer inspection i realise im blind, i got a control thing on my gearing unit idk why

[fervent lodge]

there are both buffers and caps, so it feels like the factory is running fine

[ruby sorrel]

k I'm sleep deprived too

[bright ocean]

i copied the gearing unit from someone else code

maybe that was part of why

[wispy grove]

i cant see the problem

[ruby sorrel]

I still don't see why xircon usage is that low though

[wispy grove]

am i trippin?

i can feel something is wrong

[ruby sorrel]

pls enlighten us alg

[fervent lodge]

that one is easy, prob didn't wait for stats to update

i see 2 full belts and noniterrupted battery

it should be 60

[brittle acorn]

is there a way to set up a belt splitter in a way that items only goes to the side belt when the first belt is clogged?

[fervent lodge]

that's how splitters work yea

[wispy grove]

can you send us your graph again. the updated one

[fervent lodge]

or you mean only start going to the side when a clog happens?

[brittle acorn]

only when there's a clog

[shell jewel]

something is clogged because he shouldn't have any red cicles above the shredders

[fervent lodge]

like this

[fervent lodge]

you can stack more of these splitters so there's a lower base chance
once that bottom line is clogged, everything will go to the main line

[bright ocean]

i temp included another gearing unit to quickly reduce the xiranite n generate more component temporily while activing the first gearing unit

[wispy grove]

[bright ocean]

my xiranite is finally gg down

[wispy grove]

yeah that will be gone in 8 hrs

[bright ocean]

i see no issue w this my water are all caping

[bright ocean]

ill stop it in 3 hrs just b4 i sleep

[fervent lodge]

and this one will be something like 1.6 per hour to the middle belt

[bright ocean]

the 2nd gearing unit

[wispy grove]

you can use 2 pipes per fluid pump

[bright ocean]

I meant everything that requires water it's like perm 50/50

[wispy grove]

you just finished your factory recently right?

[hollow stone]

i wonder if i should use save origocrust or i can make cryston components?

I got only 6/m battery prod. using 3.54/4.6 power

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[unreal laurel]

Wtf am I cing

[wispy grove]

oh nvm youre in valley 4?

[hollow stone]

I am making cryston since amethyst is wortfless anyway and wondered i i should make cryston parts too

ye

[wispy grove]

noo

just make buck C or canned C

[hollow stone]

i past this stage

[wispy grove]

doesnt matter i have mine still running

[hollow stone]

oh ok, i guess gonna make just cryston parts

[wispy grove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[unreal laurel]

I got a bp for that

[hollow stone]

is such small thing to bp xd

its basicly steel

[unreal laurel]

Nahh

mines like 24x31

[hollow stone]

for what?

[unreal laurel]

cryston

[hollow stone]

why this much

[unreal laurel]

its that big

[unreal laurel]

mines on the smaller end

someone maybe got a slightly smaller one but mines on the smaller end already

[hollow stone]

do u mean cryston componets, bottles and other things maybe?

[unreal laurel]

Just components

Why else would u need cryston

[hollow stone]

idk parts?

[unreal laurel]

Not really

[hollow stone]

i guess i already planned to skip purple gear (i got some made which the one given for free)

just need to push story more to unlock stuff needed to make legendary one

[unreal laurel]

The final boss was a pain when I did with gearless

Atleast put smth on

[hollow stone]

i got purple

[ruby sorrel]

gotta do parts for ziplines smh

[unreal laurel]

Good enough

[hollow stone]

i didnt usee them before and got annoyed about travel xd

i might as well make parts with overflow (cryston) maybe they will be usefull one day

[wispy grove]

purple zipline

[hollow stone]

i meaned cd drives

[wispy grove]

[zenith kiln]

I wonder how viable is it to just manually bring HC Valley batteries to Wuling to be used in the generators instead of consuming wuling batteries

[pulsar cypress]

Some already doing this..
U just need to know how many u gonna consume per day and decide the interval u want to manually supply it..
Like doing manual tf once a week for example..

Me dont do it coz lazy, and 1 wuling battery already enough.
Still have many surplus for storage.
Plus extra from med A and C.

[zenith kiln]

Hmm... normal production on v4 is 18/min, with no pulse its a 6/min usage.
12/m is 17,280 a day
unless we are hitting more than 4400 power in Wuling it should just take 8,640 a day to sustain it

I'll try it out, can probably help speed up things for my artificing gear

[pulsar cypress]

Without using v4 batt me already busy sending surplus wuling meds and batt to v4 depot..

[ruby sorrel]

you can make a bit over 2 cuprium comps/min and still clear outpost do you really need so much in a short time

[zenith kiln]

How are you even hitting cap like that, is it something to do with the tower defense mode? I thought it only gave you more per sell, not that it consumed more idk

[upper fiber]

well, 1 day you produce 14k wuling bat and use 15k, extra yazhenA per day

[pulsar cypress]

Max output is about 12 bat, 6 med A, 2.75 med C right.
Iirc to empty bills about 10 bat production enough.
So the rest piling up..

[ruby sorrel]

xiranite comp is cheaper to make too if you're not doing 100% cuprium comp

[zenith kiln]

Oh, so i just need to get 1/min battery less consumed than what i have. Can probably do it with a simple 6 port delay on the battery output

[pulsar cypress]

Stopping 1 battery plant a day makes it 6/min production make u have tons of xiranite and copium to produce gear..
Then next day can just turn it back on..

*lazy way to get gear materials stock.

[ruby sorrel]

it's 11.2/min using only SC

[pulsar cypress]

Ah yass.. About 11.2

[hollow stone]

do pipes have throughput limit?

i wonder if they work like factorio or satisfactory Xd

[dawn spire]

2/s

[hollow stone]

since from what i know there no headlift required

[dawn spire]

Iirc

[hollow stone]

ty

[hoary crag]

I have appeared

[hollow stone]

so flat satisfactory

[waxen shard]

Question do you guys get full 512 in main Wuling AIC? :/

[hoary crag]

for me I do, but that's because I have a lot of protocol stashes on it to prep for 1.2

[ruby sorrel]

no I'm around 500

[waxen shard]

oh I see

And I saw some messages earlier that some people said we are getting like 7 forges?

would it not be more normal that 18 is the max the same way for Valley IV? so 6 is enough :/

[hoary crag]

the most popular speculation right now are 6 or 8 forges

but 7 isn't out of the question as well

[waxen shard]

I see

[hoary crag]

tho I won't worry much about it since we're also getting a new sub-pac iirc

[waxen shard]

Soo there is possibility that HC Wuling comes or SC is the max?

[hoary crag]

HC will obviously arrive

[waxen shard]

T_T

Nooooo

[hoary crag]

will it be in 1.2? who knows?

[waxen shard]

I dont want it haha

Oh well is because I created one main AIC layout with 18 SC(only 12/ in main and the other 6 battery in sub) and 12 Yazhen

[pulsar cypress]

Factory remake.. Noooo..
XD

[ruby sorrel]

we must have more power

[zenith kiln]

Watch we get a sandleaf replacement for wuling

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-more-power-animefan27-kagenou-cid-the-eminence-in-shadow-kage-no-jitsuryokusha-ni-naritakute-gif-26866118

[ruby sorrel]

grinding things with sewage? let's go

[hoary crag]

could you imagine

[zenith kiln]

Something something 1 single ferrium mining spot in 1.2

[hoary crag]

sandleaf gave us permanent account damage in valley 4

surely there won't be a sandleaf variant in wuling, right?

[waxen shard]

It took me 3 days to revamp a a 26x51 Xircon prod that fills 3 of them together

[pulsar cypress]

This is my current wuling production.
Just using 1 sc battery power.

[waxen shard]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01893iUi74o15uUI73. Copy it and use it in the game.

[pulsar cypress]

Since wuling about water..
It will be swamp leaf..

[hoary crag]

can't relate