#aic-factory
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can anyone send me or recommend me starter factory setup
which one? valley 4? try visit #1461542035617091681
Preblueprinters..
Red / orange liquid, more piping, more sewage
iirc theres 8x xiranite bp in this chat somewhere
i already prepared one, but with plantation thrown at other location
yea tang clan not possible for a full 8x setup
eee, more like i'm into procedural too much, so won't ever combine plantation into main production line.
less efficient in power usage but less headache when rearranging stuff or finding out which part is broken.
i have 1x separate tho, if more forge come next update i could just copy it
either 6x or 8x next update
or 7
isn't it more effiicient to have offsite plants because of depot balancing
my plant formation always use protocol stashes as basic template / blueprint.
so... that's extra power usage on protocol stashes.
so far, for non water, i have 3 line 1 stash or 2 line 1 stash blueprint.
for water, i have 4 line 2 stash and 2 line 1 stash blue print, it's due to water pipe source requirement.
if you use protocol for them, then yeah
but then you don't end up with 2/3 sandleafs at local production needing extra planters
an anti stash i see
mf ill sacrifice 1 xiranite line if that happens
unless i want to reduce power, won't use AIC as return route.
well, that's my formation, except for wuling so far.
due to water distribution
What do you guys use your outpost camps for? (Batteries, materials for gear, etc) cause Iβm trying to figure out what I should assign each camp for making
depend on what 1.2 give us
im having a yazhen spaghetti there
Mine is mostly Buck(A) in V4 outposts
Fair, i still havenβt make a buck(A) factory yet
Iβll probably do it w the one in the power plat
just plants
i considered using it for xiranite before but it fit nicely into main base anyway
i think you will figure out what to do yourself tho
if you have some decent interest for aic, after done with the story
and id rcm to wire and mine asap
Spreading out especially large builds that use a ton of bus ports for one output (Buck Capsule [A], HC Valley Battery. LC/SC Wuling Battery.)
I've kept notes on how many production lines are in each area, to reduce time spent teleporting to each output to check what's there.
don't have to keep notes if you cram everything into main aic 
*production line = final output, I'm not keeping track of each building involved.
don't think i need to max depot for max efficiency wuling?
yea and protocol stash
is there a tileable way to chain an arbitrary amount of sandleaf together for 1 plant/seed insertion or nah?
I'm kinda done with open 7 planters to individually drop a stack of sandleaf in atp
this?
if you wanna use more power pylons or split outputs into both ways it can be denser
space being the last thing we need to optimise for lul

as long as it's not too ridiculous it should be fine
me with 2 fully unused outposts in valley 4...
I would have an empty one but I decided it'd be funny to use all power plateau outputs to make lc for power
the factory must grow
time for more brain torture
how many max forge of the sky can i make again?
4
my lc is in my main also 
recreated it recently https://enkad.enka.network/?id=c5z1V3U3X6R6g7
yeah I moved power to plateau and citrome to valley for symbolic reasons
wow only short 3 outputs, that's wild
i'm pretty sure i could solve for all outputs but i cba
this already look complicated than i though
guess i don't really need a 2nd plant
do you build without top-down view? π¨
half-half
U can bent the pipe at outside the factory area, so it didn't block belt way..
Pipes didn't locked by factory area..
when curpum dropped it made me realize non-topdown placement is actually unironically in the game
made me extremely shook

didn't think of that
yeah the first "tutorial" for aic was in reg camera
in the main mission
it felt so wrong
I don't think they really teach you to place logistics in reg view either
Yea.. Must test em all by ourselves..
is this some kind of gimmick that skip to carbon powder?
no need wuling plant for planter anymore
a good amount of facilites still working even when u place it outside the aic
just not the belts
there's no skip, you're still doing shred/refine/grind/refine in some order
yazhen to carbon powder is at a 1:4 ratio (1 plant -> 2 carbon -> 4 carbon powder) wile sandleaf and other v4 plants only give 1 carbon -> 2 carbon powder per plant
is the shift button at that page broken ? cannot do multi select
no? should work
does the panel on the bottom right change when you press shift
nope
ahh, nvm, browser security in the way
tf is browser security
nvm, hmm... need to rework my zircon line so can fit 4 of them in wuling aic
just in case forced to build 4 zircon line
mmmmm wide spacing
yeah, already have setup like that at my base, just need to slim the reactor so the pipe won't take too much space to left/right
was wondering why is the water not passing thru vertically? am i using the wrong facility
you want a splitter, right ? that's a converger.....
i meant no pipe tools have 2 inputs and 2 outputs
oh wow they all look same almost mb π ty yea i was following a bp and was tryna do the pipes
pipe bridge
i guess i just copy and paste 4 of these
your yazhen planter kinda sus. also thats too much of a planter sets
wait, wuling plant loop only require 1 seeder and 1 planter
ok
remade time
can squeeze a bit smaller after knowing that
1 seed grows into 2 plants, so you can loop 1 and use 1 to carbon
1 wuling plant > 2 carbon > 4 powder > 2 grinding > 1 forge
xiranite turned out to be kinda fun to squeeze into various tile widths lmao
i've seen so many designs
damn planters though hate the planters
done
bro your yazhen refiner is spitting out 2 carbon per input and you're only using one
yeah you only need one wuling farm per Forge
1 set yazen farm -> refiner -> 2 shredder for 2 grinder
1 yazhen plants
2 refiner
3 shredder (2)
4 grinder (2)
5 refiner (2)
6 xiranite forge
Orange = sandleaf
lol yeah i already did that after sharing
now just gonna replace forge to make a rectangle for bp
already done pre-farming some mats, and have already pre-prepared some updated forge layouts lol
can't wait for more factory
11 total skyforges or not, that is the question
have HCW battery so we have to nuke our base and redo things
But still only 2 outpost and 1 short compared to V4
Unless they reveal a surprise 3rd outpost
on 1.2
2 new outposts in a single patch is crazy
we'd be more than fine with just a second sub-pac
i'm kinda tired of making batteries
can we have a new mechanic to make mats for
i want a bike you need to make fuel for
:^)
who knows?
personally I would love to see an AIC version of delvers of the cryptic
imagine one level where you have to set up this one line but the max pipe length is gonna be like only 5 tiles
I mean if you're not into the factory
you could just watch a guide
4 xiranite forge and 12/m LC bat done what's next?
component and xiranite liquid perhaps
component
yazhen
ig
12/m SC bat
nop
xiranite only
guess it's just xiranite
gonna leave that working itself for a bit for exploration later
almost fully done exploring v4
All of this for one battery production line, can I make this compact please
LC wuling
- have your planters and xiranite line run independently
- get depot buses. unloading from depot buses makes most, if not all lines, much more compact compared to when sourced from pac
Run independently mean unload into protocol stash?
yup
lets you easily change how they're used as well
if you're going xiranite straight to LC batteries, you'll have a hard time adjusting how that xiranite is used later on
let's say you want to make components or upgrade to SC batteries for example
but if you're storing them in depot then unloading them later
Oh I split the xiranite actually
you can then easily decide and split how it's going to be used
big space
will be filled soon
just gonna leave that liquid running for a whole day and work on component tomorrow
too poor to use component anyway
Make syringe C or drink C also can for a bit extra bills..
last week i blasted through 400 artificing things, made me feel poor again too XD
still have no idea what artificing is but i'll eventually get there
doing essence in a nutshell
it will increase the stats on the gear slightly, rng but has a pity system build in so its not too bad
yay~~
All this space for 2/min π. Then you guys will tell le it'll be useless the second I unlock wuling?
Not really, it's really helpful for buying items in the shop
If you can, you'll need another 2 sets of Steel and another Buckflower Powder for max 6/min on Buck(A)
Is my setup correct tho? 4 blue rock and the 2 plants for 2/min?
I kept thinking that there must be some other way
shouldn't that give you 3? it's half no?
it looks fine
I'm confused now. I'm not that bright π. Could it really produce 3? I'll try messing around with it
yea it's good, just the additionals for the max output
my battery count suppose to go up like this right?
help where can i set depot bus
although slower rate
probably upgrade space
should at the owl if you haven't unlocked it yet
first
yeah it should go up you are using 3/m and produce 12/m once the thermals are full excess will go into the protocol stash
anyone have any small xiranite farm jst starting off wuling without any depot buses?
xiranite doesnt need any depot bus
yea seeders & planters are enough
Hi i need usine code for batterie π
we have 5 different batteries, u have to be specific
new outpost in 1.2 π₯ π― π΄
Blue batteries
hmmm can people use my bp if it using conduit while they haven't unlocked it yet
no
I wouldnt recommend putting conduit in bps anw unless absolutely necessary since they eat fac count
is tehre a blueprint on how to make carbon
Carbon is a basic ass thing, i recommend just looking at the recipe in the database
Thanks for this
Needed some battery for level 2 outpost before I can sell em HC battery
Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01iUIa71e812o872U4.
xyranite
you can also get the carbon bp from code above
TY
QUEST DIDNT gave me enoughcitromes
I think you should leave one path open
will try
it'll still be of use even when you arrive in wuling
although you won't be using them for healing anymore
but rather to just full send on selling so you can buy stuff on stock redis
yup
also it's not necessarily "slower"
it will eventually be purely limited to the thermal banks' speed regardless
cuz at some point the thermal banks will clog (your TB consumes 1 every 40s, but it receives a new battery every 20s)
overflowing batteries will head to stash
Use farm
Hello i am here to ask if i see it right that hv (purple) batteries
Arent worth it, since they produce 900 more energy then mv ones while taking more than 900 power value to produce them
I wonder if blue ones are better?
I mean 900 is power diffrence
HC batteries are worth it.
while yes the facilities may consume more, at the end of the day, so does the battery value so the cost/battery usage in that regard relatively stays the same
the core difference would be the surplus batteries, by which HC batteries sell for significantly higher in the outposts
oh ok
this is why the endgame setup in V4 are HC Batteries and Buck Capsule As, both running at 18/min
smh I run 24/6 there's basically no diff
oh ok i am thinking of doing capsules on outposts while batteries in hub, i wonder if there going to be enough space in outpots i guess time to find out
best of luck
24 batteries?
24 meds
Oh
I wanna do 24 batteries and less meds ngl
so i can use more in wuling
But idk, i also dont wanna mess with my v4 anymore
orig caps you at 18 right?
same lmao
converting a med line into a battery line in v4 after 18-18 isn't sustainable iirc due to originium
by v4 u mean some bleuprint?
valley 4
oh right its called that xd
yet to unlock 2nd region
heard somewhere that only 2 region work at once
1.2, my unc told me
latest unlocked region, and the region you most recently visited (aside from latest unlock)
are there higher tier machines/better belts unlocked in wullig?
yeah v4 become irrelevant
belts are the same
we get pipes as an addition
for batteries, we get a whole different battery set, though it's only up to SC for now
does aic share power between regions?
depot and power are separate
ye depot i know since unlocked ability to transfer between regions thought i cant becasue didnt unlock wullig yet
just enjoy the game for now
^^^
as factory game player my only goal is efficency xd
don't be like half this channel who's basically bracing for 1.2 lol
efficientcy yet u havent unlocked wuling asap
i want to know what happens more or less in story
I'm so ready for 1.2, can't wait to delete my factory

I mean tbf they're still using SC valley batteries
go easy on the lad
tbf many of this chat participant tend to skip story
i half forgot 1.2 is comming soon lol
ye i skip but at least read some
nah I let all the audio play even
special program this saturday
been enjoying the game
oh nice
i hope we get more of the blue ore (keep forgetting what its called)
story enjoyers in this channel the moment we get the patch's AIC plan upgrade be like
I doubt we'll get more ferrium unless we need a bunch of it for HC batts
yeah idm being a few hrs late to factory building lol
or days w/e
it really doesnt affect that much
i just dont like reading since i realize translation been a bit off from cn
I just hope we get the aic early on just so I can set up the forge sub-pac as soon as I can
as long as I get on it fast enough to clear artifice 
then continue doing what arknights players can't do after that to the main story
||aka read||
since my language is closer to cn i rather read more on local fandom heh
even my lang translation ingame suck too so must use en to not hurt my eyes

idk anything about the cn I play en text jp voice cus I like the jp combat sounds better
i am lazy and i play with en voice,
just talking about the translation tho, en voice is good enough for me
idk the text seems fine
while other va is propably better, unless it is really horrible i wont be switching
honestly
I played the story over the course of a week and did upgrade last
so my wuling outpost was capped at development 2 and I I didn't even feel i particularly lost anything of value
yes I'm aware that EN voice quality is top notch and believe me, I tried
but the issue is I've been playing gacha games for so damn long (most, if not all of it in JP), such that using EN feels so damn wrong
probably the only gacha I've played where I find EN voice much more comfortable
I don't like the EN combat noises the voices are great
is R1999
ye i did too, but lazines is greater
it's the only gacha where I'm more comfortable using EN voice than JP
I love how rossi is super italian in en voice
Given how missing the weekly store drop permanently gimps your account, it is a valid approach
Endfield not so much, although you could blame me having played og arknights for 6 yrs on JP voice for that

jp voice in endfield feels so bland and characterless compared to en
look I know
and I tried
but it feels wrong
lmao
ya jp voice acting never has accents but eh
weeb condition: terminal
I've played gacha for so long π
it is what it is
and once again, the only one that managed to make me actually stick to EN voice
is R1999
it's double funny because for these gachas the canonical voice is actually cn
ive dropped anime too long i start forgetting weeb lang
and I haven't played the game since last year
look cn takes too much concentration to understand
i propably cant make it much more space efficent right?
spoiler: you can
i still worry if i should worry about place
you definitely can
hmm
damn dawg thats a lot of room for improvement
should i show you how dense it can be or would you prefer to dense it up on your own
u can show
how are we counting area, even if it's not the box it's still a lot of wasted belts
i guess in other factory games it usually isnt issue
use belt cross more often
@hollow stone here's mine but it's up to you if you want to look at it or do it yourself
i see but u use more depots xd
ye this one is nice
but i switched to another even denser variant
oh wait no that was buck A
this one is fine
lmao
tighten your aic honey
I did my buck A line once and never touched it again
my buck A is thoroughly evil and intertwined with the rest
you can kinda make it out still, but it's squished
simply cuz they already fit nicely in my sub-pac with even half the sub-pac to spare for random bullshit
meanwhile I'm just using some buckA I found on twitter cus it just looked too good
lmao
i guess gonna make a bp and then try to be more space efficient
all of this just to prep us for the hell that is wuling plumbing
my original design was this until i realized it eats too many depots
like fr i got to wuling in 3 ish day of gameplay
the thing is 24x43 or sth too bad v4 is 70 and not 75 a side
and pretty much forgot about v4 stuff
for me I got there I think around day 6 or 7
no really, it's around that time
yeah skipped a lot lol
spent days 1-3 doing main story, and then 4-6 doing factory stuff
Here mine meds prod, i might as well keep it as it is and just dont look at other people bases XDD
for me it was like
I didn't do much v4 factory tbh
do story
get stuck in aic for 2 days
took me a week cuz i barely had time and i had skill problems
lmao
lose 5 more days in the factory
cus I had zero motivation knowing there's more stuff to unlock and everything is worthless when new stuff comes
the toughest one i fight is not even a boss
yk that mf tentacle in wuling?
sandleaf was the biggest confusion for me cuz i didnt know where to get it back when i started
π
used to be hard nowdays i steamroll them
for me it was kinda different, because i had to play v4 in beta to completion
and then do the same at release
isn't there a boss variant of that
so even though i mostly copied what i did in beta
yeah
i finaly started upgrading my gear
i still spent shitloads of time there
im talking bout the lesser variant tho
only once as part of main story, tho it's more of a mini boss
dedicated factory player right there
the boss was, ok ig? like i can read it move after dying to its lesser varient
hey it's fun
it's there in crisis or energy or w/e the mastery farm place is called
also i was late with my factory on release because i started work on the planner the moment i heard the release date
fr
and i think i was fast
had that problem too then i got tang tang maxed her gear and stuff and now she melts everything
i fought it with mf last rite
and her fs slow asf
thats the main reason im dying sm
endfield has a weird state where i'm purposefully not building my characters to full so that the combat is not trivialized to 3 button presses
tbh I just use a basic endmin team for immersion
easy just keep some lv1 purple wep to nerf your m12 chara
yk that shit have a backward dash move?
meanwhile real rossi on dijiang wondering where endmin is and why they're never there
child labour working reception
lmao
I actually make it a habit to sit at the throne before logging out every time
she literally has a line that says "I never get to see you" 
that way when I log in for dailies I get to do dijiang facilities first
which throne?
yeah I actually likedvisiting friends for dailies auto sent you to dijiang, now I have to teleport to it manually first or I double teleport
the cancer stone?
i just log out at one of the eccance farm spots lol
smh why is she not doing clues
she never gets to do actual physical labor, so the control center is best for her
i dont assign her task tho
she gives benefits in control too
her eepy ass can rest anywhen
plus she gets to be near me whenever I log in or out
not everyone
yes, everyone
might as well be there's 6 or 7
I also put angie in control for passive trust but she doesn't have control skills
i dont really mind the dijiang labour tbh
hmmm what do yall do when ya have noting left to do in game
but it kinda sucks you don't get to see the gifting animation after hitting 200
super lame
yeah touch some grass
id rather go ride my bike that touch grass
yeah in another gacha game
my daily is craft 1 gear, do some trade, transfer deli, checkstock
then sell all stock and buy catalyst + camera task in the weekend
im only playing 2 gacha games at the moment both are arknights
oh right I forgot to check v4 stocks..... not that I care about it now
more arknights for your arknights
my v4 been starving for like a week i think?
i play wuwa and recently comeback to r1999 since i have more time now
my daily is uhh
login
dijiang facilities
valley trade/stock/delivery transfer
wuling trade/stock
clear daily assists/clue exchanges
buy from credit store
daily mission
wuling delivery (mine only)
wuling crops
return to dijiang (the throne specifically)
spend sanity on random bullshit
log out
did delete hsr for endfield (storage problem) ((fuck ai))
i wanted to try it then i saw the almost 50gig download before ya can start playing then i decided i didnt feel like doing that
mobile player, yeah no dont, it suck honestly
I would've stopped spreading democracy just to play endfield if they didn't manage to reduce their abomination of an install size
id rcm if u have a decent built pc tho
ill just keep it to arknights
hi chat
hi stash
hi qyurii
i only have a 2009 model imac running the newest software
what are we producing tod-
wow im outta here
π
mac- end the convo ig
mac and cheese?
i got it for free after my pcs power suply decided to kill my motherboard
Ong I keep forgetting my crops
yeah mac and cheese is actually cookable if ur playing wuwa on an imac
no u dont need da crop
Me when i hate optimization
its bad for your aic
its a 2009 model imac aswell i sometimes use it as a heater in my room during the winter lol
But my funny jincao tinsane
the crops are really just for minmaxxing
for me I just do them because I use jincao infusion as my healing item
I've already cleared the current umbrals, now I farm in my retirement
same i hate the birds though
cant stand old people, just rest papa
I already have 6 and 8 forge setups
do u have 7 forge
Managed to finish bird agony with just my LR remaining, was not fun
so we can say the forbidden number
should I try making a 10 forge setup just for 'fun'?
ping me when u apply it
12
8 forge, but turn the 8th one off
what 8 in one sub?
π
i somehow managed to finish it with everyone alive and yvone at 300 hp
bruh
mf same
just bc i didnt read the mech in non agony mode
they died too fast
the planters have to be placed off-site, specifically 4 sandleaf and 8 jincao/yazhen planter loops
there's a bunch of 6 forge setups around this channel
oh
PROTOCOLSTASHCORNER
I think 7 is still probably possible but would be hard to pull off
i just spammed tang tang skill and focus on the intsakill attack whenever i see it
8 is straight out impossible
Tbf if I did it again I'd probably do better
1.3 prep 
prob same
It was the combustion guy that got me because I was mid

lovely

I got bored it's filled with all the gold resources
Took me 3 and a small break to git gud
so it has begun...
The stash plague spreading..
HOW THE HEK
hmmm maybe i should stash all the batteries instead of selling them until 1.2
An enlightened move
4 forges + 12/min SC battery line + 7 min pwm + the great wall of stash
i'll decide when we see the 1.2 preview
my battery producition is slightly slower anyway cuz im also making gears cuz i wane finaly finish maxing yvone and gills gear
yvone is my main dps and tang tang has 2K more attack
i still have plenty of capacity left :D
not that limit
i can't check the other limit
Tbf I probably should reconnect my gear production to begin slapping artifice on soup
meanwhile I'm near every limit
just place belt logistics until the game stops you
then 512 - logistics used to hit limit
her skill is pretty busted
This number is near max for me because my Wuling network is an unholy affront to god
Real, she's part of my LR team now as ses'qa intended
so i can place 11 more facility
Behold my Yvonne main stats vs my tang tang main stats
dang
Tang tang has full skill DMG up btw
wrong channel btw
I wonder if bro knows yvonne wants slab
Yvonne also wants me


Never again will I mix two or more different output items into one Protocol Stash
Yazhen Syringe [A] couldn't get in the stash because it was full of Xiranite
does electric m rig 1 and 2 have same power consumption?
my ocd is pleased 
even if that mean you have to walk around more...
im just not done yet with the zipline to the monitoring center
i have severe ocd and use 40mg of meds but even i dont do that bro
but you gave me creeping fear in me
i wonder if anyone else found out that you can tele while in conduit connecting mode
that route required teleporting and dying multiple times
teleporting?
i just use 2 pumps in case they increase the quality to all 'high'
also can someone give me a blueprint for a everything(mostly battery) farm
these are the only things that are not open in my tech tree
since the north node has excess water for 2 pumps
if all become high then need 2 pumps, i don't want to do thankless job...
it isnt that hard to reconfigure once they change purity. it would take you like less than 3 minutes
more like that map need no facility saving...
i did the hydro rigs to save power, if they'll upgrade the beds later, let them do it
i'm not adding a power cost for a future scenario
well, mine is under 3.3k so i'm just having it easy
wonder what's the number for power usage on 1.2, likely near limit as well, like adding 3.2k usage
#1461542035617091681 pretty much everything u need there
rmb to read the guide

also try to maximize input first
as, well, their full base mostly designed for end game ore input
my ocd is pleased when none of my powerlines go through textures of some random trees and riding pilons wont ram you into walls and vegetation. it's harder
nah, I'd let wire go through buildings 
xircon is the most confusing thing ever exist
don't worry about the red thing it's just water clogging
nepgee nooooooooooo 
and i blasted my xircon production. so much easier without it
better
actually it might be a nice thing for pac because the 3 output
only if free space is available
do not mix products in protocol stash where you gain significantly more on one thing compare to the other
so now i need a bunch of this on the left side?
once you're full of cuprium parts, that refinement stops producing sewage too, and no more xircon for you
no you need to finish your xircon
xircon production needs 4 belts. you're missing 2 reactors.
just sell em at outpost 
it's very confusing still
trying to see if i can change something up
you just need to double what you're doing here
my brain not working with 2 reactor that's why a 3rd exist
its better if you make syringe A soon too, cuprium parts get full so fast
suggestion of a quick fix
whar
feed it into your xircon production with separator facility
if you got all the chests and aurelenes, yes
still empty
i mean still unexplored pretty much
I wish I can plug my jet drone into one of those unlimited xiranite taps and fill up bottles of liquid xiranite
the hardest part is not about how many crucibles required, but how annoying it is to set output at crucible.
because it is not automatic : /
i'm actually not sure what to use iron for anymore
buh
yes
we saw that 
should i spoiler here anything?
spoil what
i didnt expect to be able to fit whole 6/m production into outpost aic.
also are all outposts aic same size?
is there a way to fit all of factory ito air mode
images idk why
ty
u cant fit more than 6/m on outposts aic?
or maybe there a way?
just curious
you can fit a 12/min battery actually
1.5 maybe
i mean meds
buck A no
2 outpost can 3
ty, i guess i wont spending more hours on designing this
when i first build Hc batteries i had hard time placing 3/m
i guess by seeing how others did it its much easier now.
i am bad at space efficency in factory games since it isnt usually issue
kinda forgot how cursed my alley4 is. because of 12perMinbuckA
Not really, would have to split into images and line them up
Wait
Did i read it wrong
Just looking at the blueprints and abit overwhelmed with the choice. anyone got a favouite endgame Wuling and V4 they could recommend. Think i have one from iwintolose currently possibly to get me up and running?
At what point in progression of wuling are you
you can get extra zoom by selecting 50 wide area or placing a 50 wide belt as blueprint
wait
you mean i need another 2 reactor for max efficiency xircon?
like.. 5 reactor?
that's what we've been saying 
my engrish is bad
oh ok good to know i gonna make such bp
i just have 2 belts 48 tile apart, that works too
do wuling liquids have some liquid physics or they behave more less as gases?
yes 5 reactor
Whats the best metric for that? More cuprium than i need right now. Maxed outpost. Development 7, every node mined?
@subtle finch all your belt gripes should now be resolved
v4
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wuling, just main: https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1488992471722754088 (easier to setup, uses less power than most designs)
OR
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1485484253687840838 (harder to setup, uses the absolute least power out of most, if not all designs)
just treat them like item, split evenly, they tend to misbehave if you add splitters unevenly
what's new? 
belts/pipes
ok, also wuling gets unlocked with chapter II?
is there process V?
also they disappear upon stashing facilities instead of filling your pockets
also is there way to find quickly ores which doesnt have miner yet?
ah yes, my waterproof pockets, where i keep my liquids 
i only noticed this new placement indicator which changed a bit? 
What tool is that?
it doesnt seem to like me placing bridges now
self-intersection
you can freely do that with other belts
how many share of output of 1 water pump can distribute to remain efficient?
also other then crystons components and better ziplines does it have any other use? i wonder if i need to automate it
water pump is 60/m
max pipe throughput is 120/m
a recipe usually consumes 30/m
so 2 pumps for 4 (xiranite) forges through one pipe is π
conduits also 120/m
then u remember the yazhen
1 pump can power 2 facilities
or 3 high purity hydro rig
or 6 low purity hydro rig
no, only for 110m zipline, better to max stock it, then build zipline as many as required
not really as of now. instead of making them i spawned some with regional transfer
ty
what u mean by regional tranfer?
pins
another optional way, use meta transfer for cryston part to wuling rather making it at v4 factory.
meta transfer = get free items from nothing.
need region lvl 12 ( or 11 , forgot )
yes
meta storage allow you to transfer any produce able items from v4 to other region.
so no need to have them at your inventory / warehouse.
ty i guess will take a while
I just consider all high purity cz they'll become high purity next patch and I'll be too lazy to redo my piping x_x
for power saving, it's still better to run the conduits between beds now. then connect them as 5-2-5 or 2-2 later
For power saving, its best to transfer 10k valley 4 batteries 
i just make chen run on a hamster wheel
for power saving, its best to do both
also i have transferred 58k v4 batts 
nowhere near to exhausting them
metastorage transfer of wuling materials isn't a thing right? Been seeing some bogus suggestions in the wild on the internet might be AI tho.
meta transfer from wuling ? not yet unlocked, the current wuling region lvl is maxed at 9, maybe at 1.2.
we used to be able to transfer copium ore from v4 to wuling but it got removed like 2 days in
wasnt even useful
during 1.0 I saw suggestions of metastorage transferring xiranite from v4 meta storage to wuling. even saw suggestions of doing that with cuprium when it first released.
there was some stuff that did get patched
we still able to meta transfer from v4, i'm doing it with hc battery now to reduce manual transfer at dijiang ( the whole clicking region storage at inventory )
so it was an exploit?
at one point they had it in the game
then realized people were doing it
more like they forgot to remove it from the list of things they can transfer
it was usually fixed with in like a day
kind of an exploit maybe but I think it was still less efficient than what you wanna transfer anyways
In 1.1 it was possible to meta transfer red ore to wuling
But it was patched nexr day
it's called an oversight not an exploit
metastorage transfer specified "items that can be produced in the region"
there wasnt any cuprium ore in valley4
I feel like thats the same thing
depends on which side we're speaking from
player exploiting dev's oversight.
ya
and then spreading misinformation
they could be doing it but not know its unintended, that's the difference
in guides
(idk why yazhen/jincao still on the list tho
)
didn't aware there was an exploit , too focused on doing story
was patched fast and wasnt very useful
how much raw material y'all keep stashed?
it was patched 3 full days after 1.1 released
yes
i like to keep them at max so its easy to tell if my production have ore deficit
a few
uhhh i try to keep max all raw materials
probably rebalance everything after the 1.2 preview
maxed on herbs / ores.
and some supportive products like xiranite / ore part
lol I been trying to overspend it down
been doing tinkering so slow recovering on stuff
also idk if how many % bill storage does a newly unlocked outpost have
ive been thinkering too much, this is my first 24h where my aic report is flat
if there is jingyu lvl4 then imma save bills again
so xiranite needed sewage
i can output my sewage to the 2nd reactor?
tell me about this 1/1 LC battery setup you have
might sound like a big brain if it works
so 5 more days to be inactive again, till 1.2 preview arrives
yes!
its timed kinda like DIGE
ohh
you're getting big brain nep 
it makes a battery just in time
guess i need a little bit sewage from making cuprium and like
also idk if they actually fixed the belt offline mis-timing, if thats not included in the crucible fix
so i can go back into the magic belt systems
tier 2 wuking batteries need twice as much sewage as they produce so you always need to produce the syringes
it was fixed, about 2-3 days after crucible stuff
Or it will clog
imma try to do this again
don't ask about it 
oh god this is awful placement to put sewage
you found a way to make a 10 alternating chain with that?
can i actually use the input and output with sewage?
my record was 6
yes
what's the converge/splitter setup?
i think my system can do that, since it has a custom blank-fill slot
its basically a 1/3 into a 1/2
so it sends 5 xiranite
why the splitter on the dense org to stash?
thats a converter
it sets a priority belt
when i was burning down my zircon stock pile
converger prioritizes the other belt?
I used dense cubes directly
i have this stupid setup, and it doesnt scale well
convertor prios belt to bat
nice credit store reset, 2x weapon pull and 1x oroberyl.
something wrong here
i do this, the seed circle is 10-belt long, has 5 blank and 5-non blank and scalable
do i like
I also used a converger right at the bus depot unloader. this unsures that it will only draw from depot if no other input belts have xiranite in them
did you check the output and assign output properly ?
no i haven't set the output
might as well go set it
ive been looking for that solution for so long, thanks
idk if its good now when offline
imma try it again in 1.2, for the alternating yazhen/jincao A
I don't think it generates enough sewage to fuel both
my wuling outpost is full of spaghetti monsters
nep, you cant do perpetual sewage loop on both. you will still need sewage from that cuprium
it's because 1 sewage will only give you 0.5 at the last step, so you can only support one crucible with that sewage
5000 sandleaf farm loops
what did i just do
something like this
if it's outside the AIC area you can sorta do that cause of the height levelling I think
lit bp name 
i put them down like 1,5 months ago and figured something isnt working, the pipe wasnt connected but i also saw that
anyone have starter blueprint for wuling?
EFO01iUIa71e812o872U4
xyranite bp
xiranite: EFO01I3A5II7i59715o08
sc battery and comp: EFO014E6i4401i3UoE71A
yay
Wait, the sewage wrong..
isnt one side is just gonna be wrong?
wait i'm checking
the right one might be loosing sewage slowly
oh what the
Why is there 2 outlet, and one of them (right one) not connected?
yeah the output didn't connect to the input because i'm lagging
So the crucible got sewage supplied from outlet.
And the sewage output from last crucible split half and refunded to the both second line crucible?
Ill be surprised if this doesnt clog over time
It will clog later..
i think its fine, these part are not doing anything
how do I get 2 thermal banks to only consume 2 battery per minute instead of 3?
Too much sewage supply.. And output..
two sewage inputs and return is 90 sewage
i hate math
Yass.. Coz u add 0.5 supply from last crucible back to second line..
should clog the first crucible, then all goes to the 2nd, so its fine
the issue if that fights with the refinement unit and that clogs instead
but its back feeding into a line thats also getting filled from an outlet
so better just remove the pipe i circled
Yass..
remove the pipes and place the left side water treatment to there
remove the last output crucible i guess
that ain't helping
off it go to water treatment
Can also.. 2 supply from outlet..
Last crucible output goes to wtp..
assuming that's 2 sewage input conduit
what's wtp?
that's actually fine, if only they both feed the crucibles
red, green than blue clogs
thats what im expecting
its adding more than the loop can take out
Like this..
Wtp - water treatment plant
yea i think this is the best solution
doing it rn
it does clog if i leave it
i have a doctorate in crucible at this point after the taxation incident

In cv..
Experience :
Water treatment plant senior operator
Company :
enfield factory
now then... can i fit 4 dense originium powder output here...
no 
should just let it connect to the xircon output and voila
you need more bus than that
they just gave up and threw away the backfeed 
U gonna need 8 line of originium depot unloader..
I have an overkill back feed
8 lines fits on 3 depot bus just barely
1 for sandleaf to shredder and another 1 for just the sandleaf powder
opinion: should I match the weird liquid colors to the game, or keep them icon color derived? imo the icon ones are easier to see
copy paste able into 4 xircon line in the future
if new reactor not able to make better xircon factory, yeah
effluents are harder to distinguish in game, i don't think they will miss that
Can save depot unloader by supplying it directly from plantation on the other side of the design..
mine 
mine doesnt need to think it just full sends until it cant full sends then goes to the next area then full sends then finally gets treated
I can very production and it will still work perfectly fine
same thing 
Red - originium processing area
Orange - sandleaf production and supply to grinder
Blue - battery packaging facility
Purple - belt direction
Can do something like this
that belongs in a museum
is that rgb tv
Batteries or something
i still havent taken out the natural sewage pond
same
800 is too little
its premium sewage
taste better?
6stars sewage
need to ask the villagers for that... if they still alive
cant wait until nep discovers they need to reconnect all that conduits if they ever move that setup 
There is a box in it, having it leftover would trigger me to no end
i like to trigger people 
maybe...
THE FACTORY MUST GROW
I wonder how many people forgot to submit valley 4 aurene and are missing the double stamina bar
now just waiting for depot upgrade
Use crate detection
interesting fact. i did submit those, but have leftovers for some reason and cant submit anymore
Yeah, they expand the submission feature with upgrades
Likely more to be added in 1.2
with more orbs
why hypergryph 
put the core somewhere else
middle, top or bottom
its a design choice so that u can still use the depot on the sides
perfect tbh
Good to know
I have like 30 compasses saved up for those things if they are hard to find
okay, i joined the hc club back
but why?
these are souvenirs already. i don't want to make them anymore
i mean, sure... but steel is pain to make
this is what i have in mind until i learn more of how the braindamaging factory it works
it will last me over 9 days, then i can just get more in v4
gimme those money
i thought of using iron to make yazhenC selling it along with A. rather than making steel again 
just some size reduction here and there and preparing for 4 xircon
remain separating originium cube and plant from main production line.
We might not even get 4 xircon
It might use copium
God... I ended up having to use protocol stash to lessen my belt bridges due to facility limit 
blasphemous 
in what way will this ever help... 
unless you mean feeding back to depot

I'm sorry for i have sinned, Father 
dont worry, we stash abusers will take you in


stashes are honestly underrated
they can take stuff and do nothing with it
As extrrnal storage u mean?
stashes are more useful for advanced shi
but 99% of the uses are just 0 san behavior lol
because it can take an item
and do nothing
we can make shi like logic gates

