aic-factory

[upper fiber]

increase your shredder first

[reef shuttle]

FUCK! my first account needs 4.17K power but my second account needs 4.18K. THE FACTORY AND EVERY FACILITY IS IDENTICAL

can anyone help me? my OCD!!!!

[winged oriole]

Time to comb the map for the one thing you forgot

[upper fiber]

fluid pump, zipline, protocol stash

[reef shuttle]

fawk

[reef shuttle]

yeah it's identical

[upper fiber]

check how many extra, it is 5 or 10

if 5 then zipline or stash

[reef shuttle]

how to look at it?

[upper fiber]

aic report-> power usage

[pulsar cypress]

Interview your employees..
Someone might be charging their comm device.

[reef shuttle]

thanks

[reef shuttle]

first account: 4175
second account: 4180

[upper fiber]

likely there is one still use old zipline

[reef shuttle]

power use 5

the hard part is, every zipline is identical too

[upper fiber]

mining rig?

[reef shuttle]

@upper fiber DAWG YOU'RE A LEGEND

thanks for reminding me of dead ziplines, it's identical now

it's 4.17K in all accounts now YIPPIE

[young igloo]

i thought ppl playing another account for a new experience

[reef shuttle]

my ocd has been cured

[young igloo]

sorry if this sound offended but whats the point then

[reef shuttle]

yeah me too, I want to experience limited characters that I can't get in just one account

[young igloo]

okay combat oriented

[reef shuttle]

so, you see my name right?

TheCollector, I'm collecting too

[sterile stratus]

does anyone have a 21*x bp for wuling battery

[young igloo]

the only collector i know is that gun in league

[sterile stratus]

the sc bat

[young igloo]

[reef shuttle]

21 per minute wuling?

[sterile stratus]

no, size

[reef shuttle]

ohhhh

I have one

[sterile stratus]

this one is 24 unfortunately

[young igloo]

3m

openning the game

[reef shuttle]

It generate me 11 per minute, only 1 cost needed

if you want mine, I can show you the youtuber that I stole from

[young igloo]

20x38 good enough?

[reef shuttle]

@young igloo I have the entire character roster in this game with their signature weapon, I can't do that without having 2 accounts

[sterile stratus]

yes, surely

[young igloo]

yeah with this game arsenal lmao

[young igloo]

EFO01u8U4o28e50a1AoOU

[reef shuttle]

@sterile stratus mind you, you need that syringe too

[sterile stratus]

oh yeah i should've separated the xircon from the line

🥀

[young igloo]

yeah that make thing a lot easier

[mighty pasture]

is this how planting works?

seen yesterday already forgot today

[young igloo]

remove that belt

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Except the shredder output is 3 belt line..

[young igloo]

this one

[reef shuttle]

yes it's already identical to mine

[rapid hedge]

remove the belt on the right planter

[pulsar cypress]

And belt loop at right bottom

[rapid hedge]

planter only releases 1 plant

[reef shuttle]

but you need to loop it somehow

[sterile stratus]

oh and it's symmetric as well tysm

[young igloo]

and btw place 3 belt from the shreder to the stash

[rapid hedge]

you don't loop the right one

[reef shuttle]

oh fr?

[rapid hedge]

the loop on the left one is right

[sterile stratus]

i don't have to edit anything lol thats nice

[reef shuttle]

ight will edit mine then

[pulsar cypress]

Just draw, faster.. XD

[young igloo]

just mind the building limit, i went a bit overload with that

[rapid hedge]

if you loop back the right one
the seeder will get 1 + 0.5 plants
you only give the seeder 1 plant

[mighty pasture]

fixed

[reef shuttle]

that thing is just for ubering lol

[young igloo]

yup ur good

[mighty pasture]

now gotta work on multiple grinding unit

[young igloo]

mind i ask if this is v4 or wuling?

[mighty pasture]

still one last depot upgrade but i can work on something before i get the upgrade

v4

[reef shuttle]

I wonder why we only need small area this patch

[young igloo]

you should consider building the planter in the same section with the grinder

ts take a lot of output bus

[reef shuttle]

my setup for expedition

[young igloo]

or put shreader inside

[pulsar cypress]

*coz soon we will be given a lot bigger and complicated setup..

[young igloo]

the lack of output bus space lol

[pulsar cypress]

The dev note published already mentioned it iirc..
Increase the difficulty of factory gameplay..

[reef shuttle]

@pulsar cypress I wonder when will we get the ability to grind for the upgrade mats until it is overflowing

[upper fiber]

nothing to worry about with just one tap of bp....

[young igloo]

i think we are all good after the v4 tho

[pulsar cypress]

In the end.. Its all goes to copy paste blueprints..

[young igloo]

man the reading skill of some ppl is just

at least a youtube video would help

[reef shuttle]

never difficult, I used MattJasticGaming, which stole blueprints from China

[rapid hedge]

they will add 10% tax if you copy blueprints

[reef shuttle]

I buy the game just for the exploration lol, not the factory

[pulsar cypress]

[mighty pasture]

just working on a little something on this side
top right is what i ask for help earlier
AIC was something i run before i upgrade the base which i'll remove later

[upper fiber]

what game you bought

[young igloo]

akef is free yk

[viscid plover]

Add wind turbine and have weather system dictate your output daily forcing you to adjust other material in/output as well

[young igloo]

i abadoned all the exploration for the factory

[reef shuttle]

who said I'm F2P

[young igloo]

mb assuming stuff

[reef shuttle]

I abandoned all factory for exploration

[young igloo]

but at least the aic and exploration is free

[pulsar cypress]

Energy supply good..
*wind stop
Energy depleted, factory shut down..

[reef shuttle]

imagine if we need to use physics after needing to learn math

[viscid plover]

Gona put the hamster in the wheel

[upper fiber]

don't give them anymore idea how to make players login 24/7

[viscid plover]

"create content"

[young igloo]

3d each patch into the factory then clueless for the rest of the version

[rapid hedge]

the only place where soupsoup would be useful in our factory

[reef shuttle]

I hope I could make Wuling City my factory

imagine the chaos

[viscid plover]

.sahur2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1478360593781096458/HCao2iibkAAGTBs.png?ex=69a81e18&is=69a6cc98&hm=8ed7f473711da39ea1a311179f23677b98cb3f2fb16e39b42a9da666070859b7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=558&height=558

[pulsar cypress]

We have weather factor in the future..

Earthquake just happen, some facilities now only work at 25%, 50%, 75% efficiency, need repair..

Tornado just happen, some facilities got blown away..
Need to build a new one..

[upper fiber]

main quest -> opened new stuff -> placing rigs and pumps -> slap bp -> continue main quest -> factory tweaking

[reef shuttle]

sinkhole happened, factory all gone

[viscid plover]

Damn bro just leaked Japan region so we having higarashi2 in endfield too?

[rapid hedge]

aint no way I'm building these hydro mining rigs from scratch again

[hidden temple]

higashi

[young igloo]

higashikata josuke

[pulsar cypress]

[young igloo]

damn i know everything is a jojo reference

[young igloo]

uhh out let?

[pulsar cypress]

Pipe disconnected due to tornado..

[rapid hedge]

nah outlet is a scam

[small creek]

when you let it out

[young igloo]

idk too

keep edging

proud edge runner

[mighty pasture]

squeezing everything

[wispy grove]

Uneven distribution goes brrr

[young igloo]

whats with the random stash inside tho?

[mighty pasture]

ofc i'm aware just trying to experiment something

[bright zodiac]

you mustve been trying to do this

[mighty pasture]

origocrust eventually filled once in a while and originium ore output going to shred for powder seems reasonable
i still don't know what to do with ferrium just making some part for something else later

[mighty pasture]

been there

oh wait

nvm

[young igloo]

wuling tech mf

[mighty pasture]

that looks organized

i think i'll remove the stash thing from ferrium and just fill the shred to grinding

originium need a fix too

[sterile stratus]

1 conduit can handle 2 forges right

[bright zodiac]

i made it just in 120s with 1 purpose. Leave it for 2 days, and it will give u 58K everything on that line.

i did have 58K all wuling item, except bottle variant liquid

[bright zodiac]

can even handle 4 if the 1 conduit took water from 2 pump

[sterile stratus]

yeah

ok

bro why tf i have to reconnect conduits after moving em

[bright zodiac]

the dev are afraid if you are cheating (legit logical reason)

[mighty pasture]

the fun begin

[sterile stratus]

after 2h i completed my base 🥀

it's still gibberish but better than before

[subtle finch]

[nimble topaz]

Is there a way to make this more compact? I'm too dumb for this

[young igloo]

id rcm to upgrade to hc thru story tho

or try rotating the big one clockwise

90

[hidden temple]

could rotate the packager yeah

and bring the therms closer

[hoary crag]

believe me, you'll be making HC valley batteries before compacting even becomes a concern.

tho if you really want one:

1. ||move fitting unit one tile left, one tile down, and rotate facing downwards||
2. ||move the packaging unit and electric pylon two tiles left||
3. ||rearrange the packaging unit to match bread's pic||

[nimble topaz]

ohhhh.. that's really cool

[young igloo]

best i can do

could go for 4th thermal to the left of the electric pylon above

[subtle finch]

i dont recommend packaging unit straight to thermal bank especially 4 of them in 1, you wont have a buffer of batteries in case you ran out of ores
ive seen many players lost power this way

[young igloo]

yea late game player tend to have kinda delaying battery technique

but just play more if ur love aic sm

cuz the fun aint here

[nimble topaz]

I'm trying to unlock more area to mine more blue rocks. I still haven't closed the giant sky hole

[young igloo]

rush it

[nimble topaz]

when can I get the pipes? it's not in the skill tree

[young igloo]

it is essential for sandleaf

[small creek]

try this

[young igloo]

pipes?

what u need it for, its wuling stuff, still a long way to reach tho, gl

[pulsar cypress]

Pipes only for wuling area..

[solemn mural]

quick question, for mega base blueprints, what i cconsidered "top left" of the hub base?

the corner of the depots?

[small creek]

alternative version, cant find a place for the 4th thermal bank tho

[subtle finch]

i wanted to ask that question too , i dont think everyone follow the true north
its just based on the orientation of the picture

[pulsar cypress]

Top left of the bp screen shot given.

[nimble topaz]

I just got sandleaf. Finally 😭

I already built the planting machine and planned the item for purple gear beforehand just so I could immediately start producing.

[young igloo]

its a square, its doesnt matter

[young igloo]

the innovate just began lol

[nimble topaz]

This outpost mission is to open up a new factory colony right? What are we even making aside from character gear and healing items to warrant so much space?

[mighty pasture]

feels like i'm doing something wrong but idc

[young igloo]

thats a waste of output bus tho

better process raw ingredient in the same section

[mighty pasture]

let me finish what i'm trying to do here, save that bp, clean everything, and redo your suggestion

i wish there's a mirror button

time to replace

[young igloo]

nah u dont, mirroring stuff can get the pipes look weird

[young igloo]

better get sandleaf from the bus and shred it in the same section

[mighty pasture]

i think it's fine like this

now just gotta put everything in middle

[young igloo]

symmetric enjoyer huh

gl mirroring wuling

[solemn mural]

How do you unlock this node?

theres a gate blocking my entrance

in Power Plateu

[hidden temple]

wulfgard story quest

[solemn mural]

AH, TY

this one?

[hidden temple]

mhm

[solemn mural]

thanks

[thorn compass]

should be this one yea

[hidden temple]

you don't have to finish it, once you're done with the area you can ditch the quest and rig up them nodes

[solemn mural]

haha, i intend to finish all side quests, was just setting up my V4 factory for max $$ production for character progression

found a mega base BP online, and im shy of Ferrium prod for it cause of that node haha

[young igloo]

i did what i have to to make the factory grow

i benched the rest

not the time limited reward ofc

[solemn mural]

My Wuling Factory is pretty much maxed out

I would need more Ferrium/Cuprium deposits to get 100% eff on everything I have

oof, i went to go do it, and apparently i left off on the Yvonne story quest, cause shes running around the mining camp chasing kids XD

[mighty pasture]

all outpost on valley take buck capsule A for endgame?

[hidden temple]

yep could sell it to all of em

as well as HC

[ashen ferry]

all of the big three AIC products, so you can have buck and the other plant capsules so more income.

[mighty pasture]

power management done

gonna have to remove extra sandleaf

[frail trail]

What's up with the stashes

[mighty pasture]

the middle ones?

[subtle finch]

all that and it still have the zzz marker

[magic geyser]

What is the current max ore yield in Wuling? Just making sure I unlocked all the nodes before I start building.

[frail trail]

Well, all of them

[mighty pasture]

it just maintaining the power

[hidden temple]

480 0 90 120
ori ame fer cup

[magic geyser]

cool ty!

[frail trail]

120 cuprium 90 ferrium 480 ori 120 xiranite

[mighty pasture]

i can move on to another space to make HC because those stashes in the middle took care of the traffic

[dreamy jungle]

Lets mine xiranite

[hidden temple]

xiranium

[hidden temple]

they're slowing down your HC production since the packaging unit isn't receiving max input

hence the "zzz" in the packaging unit rn in your img

it isn't supposed to go inactive like that

[frail trail]

You have 2 dense originium powder running at 50% efficiency and 1 getting clogged

[mighty pasture]

why i did this earlier

[subtle finch]

you cant be stealing parts from your battery production, if you need parts, make a separate production

[mighty pasture]

working on it

[subtle finch]

hc battery is one of the best thing you can sell, so you want to make as many and use as few

[mighty pasture]

naruhodo naruhodo

time to remake everything

got a new idea

[hidden temple]

I see that it's using 4 steel part inputs at half efficiency so it's still receiving full steel part input
but it needs to be receiving 3 belts of dense ori for the proper ratio, which you don't have room for cuz 4 ports are already taken up by the steel

[mighty pasture]

yeah i have to do some reading

now i know what to do

"making it" is the toughest part

enough reason for this game to be fun

[hidden temple]

mhm, glhf

[subtle finch]

my tip for units that takes 10 sec to process like packaging and gearing unit is divide everything by 5, because belts and other machines run at 2s
that ill get you the amount of lane you will need for each item

[silent violet]

ur merging 2 maxed belts of org cube

[viscid plover]

im endfielding

[sonic summit]

Both wuling and valey full?

[bright zodiac]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[viscid plover]

moved it to v4 to prevent wuling full
this much in wuling

[sonic summit]

For me its hc valley battery i also use it to dige

[viscid plover]

same, im trying to balance them out to prevent anything from hitting capacity
inventory management sidequest lmao

[leaden drift]

damm

I forgot to build in excess xiranite spillover

if i hit max zircon

[viscid plover]

[leaden drift]

I wish we lad a logic gate type deal for belts

that only works when xircon is maxed

[viscid plover]

same, was thinking of that too

if this route max, go that route

[leaden drift]

well i already have that

[hidden temple]

we do, the converger quirk

priority splitters

[leaden drift]

this is my issue

i made this too compact

I cant fit a prio splitter

[rocky niche]

why does this image have belt loop on right side?

[viscid plover]

I always send xirang into depot so i never have to worry about that
im a megabase denier

[leaden drift]

it pulls exactly 10 xiranite from the cruicible

so i get exactly 20 xirnaite extra

from both battery production

[rocky niche]

i have my xiranite production in jingyu outpost. all 4 sky of forge. so that in main base, i dont need to think of where to place them

[leaden drift]

mine has a bunch of different logic gates

[rocky niche]

also, xiranite production is constant, the only blueprint that will change next patch is for introduction of new battery and new food. xiranite doesnt change but only adds more forge of sky

[leaden drift]

my only issue i might run into is if i max zircon

[viscid plover]

my xirang production was created before they fix the grinding unit
now that the issue is solved i can minimize the belt

but ill just wait for 1.2

[leaden drift]

yeah but I want my xiranite to focus on my battery production

so its apart of the battery production

so no matter what happens I will always be producing powe

[rocky niche]

i just use unloader to feed my battery lines with xiranite

[leaden drift]

I always keep cap so this only works with that mind

[rocky niche]

maybe i should look more into my production/min tables

[leaden drift]

If Xiranite Comps is not maxed, copium parts isnt maxed and, bottles not maxed

[rocky niche]

i just yeet the factory line but idk how much it creates per min

[leaden drift]

spread production evenly

but if one maxes it auto switches production to the other two

this is all with a 20 xiranite extra

that im taking from the batteries

[rocky niche]

i have 2 battery lines in wuling

but when i checked, it says yield is only 6/min before

[leaden drift]

I have my batteries set to 10/min

if i block the extra bit

it goes up by exactly 1 battery

so with full shut off its 12

[rocky niche]

first battery line has complete sources. but second battery line has 2 ori lines cut off for xiranite comp

[leaden drift]

how are you only getting 6 then?

[rocky niche]

i have no idea

[leaden drift]

6/min is a full battery production

from one factory

or facilitiy

[rocky niche]

i'll check again the tables to see if it changed

[viscid plover]

see theorical data too

[rocky niche]

i'm curious if the thermal banks hooked up directly to battery lines affect the production rate

[leaden drift]

im also making exactly 1 LC battery a minute to keep power just above my usage

[rocky niche]

each battery line has 1 thermal connected

[ruby sorrel]

it doesn't affect the yield number

[viscid plover]

thermal should have no affect on yield

[sterile stratus]

1 conduit can supply 4 planting units?

[leaden drift]

if two pumps go into it

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

[rocky niche]

1 pump = 2 planting

[viscid plover]

are we expecting 1.2 livestream next week?

[leaden drift]

so i got one way to atleast get the 30 extra xiranite if a plant goes down

or well

if i max out zircon

this would atleast give me 30 xiranite

in the case that zircon gets maxed

[solemn mural]

anyone know how to get Lvl 9 Wuling Dev level? im 1000 exp off any idk where to get the lasr bit

[leaden drift]

selling to outpost

[rocky niche]

do tower defense

[leaden drift]

all stuff upgraded

[rocky niche]

upgrade the environment monitor

[ruby sorrel]

show your rdm

[solemn mural]

thasts what im missing, ty

[mighty pasture]

took a short break earlier
guess this is how it should be?

[sonic summit]

you can clear 1 aic output

[sonic summit]

bruv you run half grinding unit ? why split the sandleaf powder

[mighty pasture]

ah

i'm blind

something stuck there

[sterile stratus]

is this about 4.44kw

[sonic summit]

you can just dige calculator in pin though

[mighty pasture]

sandleaf only need 1 while the other need 2
splitting sandleaf is just making full use of the efficiency

[sterile stratus]

i can wait for a bit and come back for the avg result

xd

[sonic summit]

? just make it like me

[mighty pasture]

or am i wrong

[sonic summit]

1 grinding unit use full sandleaf line aka 30/m spliting it reduce it to 15 /m aka half usage

[mighty pasture]

holy

[sonic summit]

wanna copy ?

mine is wasting 1 sandleaf powder line

[mighty pasture]

yeah bad idea to split

redo again

[candid quartz]

WHERE THE HELL do u transfer from one depot to another again - i cant remember where the option is :DDD

[sonic summit]

there 2 ways

[mighty pasture]

depot loader and depot unloader?

[shut rover]

1 sandleaf through the shredder equals 3 indeed

[candid quartz]

no i mean where u xfer from valley 4 to wuling etc

[mighty pasture]

wait maybe i can use shredder

[sonic summit]

OPEN PAC/SUB PAC MENU then here, make sure u use meta transfer

[candid quartz]

ahj

[shut rover]

Better but frustrating belting

[sonic summit]

oh shi---

[sonic summit]

btw you want copy my 12 hc/ min sub pac ? it only wasting 2 sandleaf powder lines

[mighty pasture]

damn that's eyeburning

[sonic summit]

i like to say its compact

[mighty pasture]

ima just keep the sub pac

i mean just keeping it

just in case i got lost and bored

i'm redoing everything again

[small creek]

now do this in valley pass

[sonic summit]

i try before it but it got limit , now only do 6 buck a and 12 citro c

[small creek]

you cant do it anyway lol

the depot unloaders will hit the environment

[sonic summit]

yeah and only in ori park that they didnt have enviroment near pac depot

[fervent lodge]

that was kinda the point

it's modular

xiranite and originium things and so on are separate from each other

[mighty pasture]

works now

[fervent lodge]

i JUST realized all this time i forgot to add battery-eating mechanics of the thermal bank (and power tracking in general)

[mighty pasture]

3 HC battery done but there's way more spaces than i though

time to make capsule

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. 3 batt setup only take about 2/3 of the area, still have many spare..

[sonic summit]

HOW about making sand leaf farm there instead of grabing from depot ? you get some free space tbh

[pseudo basin]

how to get this? im already in 1.1 msq

[mighty pasture]

story

[viscid plover]

defeat the 1.1 boss

[mighty pasture]

very visible at the right

[pseudo basin]

oh

thx

[dim gale]

lol my factory is so empty

[sterile stratus]

lol

[young igloo]

add more stuff

[hoary crag]

fill it with stashes

and a uhh

battery line

[dim gale]

that smol thing in the right bottom is a battery line LMAO

its just a smol one

ima expand that

[hoary crag]

oh yeah right lmao

I somehow mistook it as a components line since the facility count is closer to that than a battery line 😭

[dim gale]

yeahh😭

[hoary crag]

option 2

[young igloo]

[dim gale]

its this mini thing

[young igloo]

none, bench the valley 4

[young igloo]

i wonder u doing good with this minimalist setup

[dim gale]

im not xD

[hoary crag]

I mean technically all he has to do is just

add two more grinding units

[vale topaz]

2nd option

[dim gale]

yeah

[hoary crag]

also just realized it's been such a long time since I took a pic of my aic from the legal angle

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-point-black-and-white-dj-khaled-gif-17719707

[vale topaz]

.... so many hacked account

[young igloo]

everywhere but #do-not-post-or-get-beaned

[hoary crag]

I swear it's probably the reason why it's only these damned spam ads every time

they're the only ones "smart" enough to not post there 😭

I'm not saying that there should be more, but it's so odd that it's always the same thing

[young igloo]

yeah ts been around for a while

[hoary crag]

anyway seems like it won't go away after a while so uhh

@civic ingot

[young igloo]

and honestly idk whats it even advertising for

[dim gale]

built it

[hoary crag]

very nice

[young igloo]

sc one huh

[hoary crag]

it's lc tho

[young igloo]

yeah mb, whatever the lesser one is

[hoary crag]

they probably don't have lvl 3 output yet

@raw pollen

[young igloo]

still sustainable for 3 line of lc tho

with meta

[hoary crag]

originium can't sustain 3 LC lines tho even with meta afaik

[young igloo]

just not very consistent

[hoary crag]

how much meta space do dense powder take btw?

[dim gale]

yeah

[young igloo]

1k5 an hour i beilieve?

[hoary crag]

yup

or 25/min

[young igloo]

thats 25/m so in total of 265/270 for 3 line of consistent lc bat

good enough

why dont they make it 1k8 tho

[hoary crag]

no idea

[young igloo]

the math been triggering me for a while

[hoary crag]

imagine if that's one of the things they'll change in 1.2

regional transfer capacity increase from 1500 to 1800

[vale topaz]

at least meta still useful for sandleaf in case 1 shredder only use 2 outputs

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-satoru-gojo-gojo-floating-gif-13262904807689696418

[vale topaz]

or bomb / ferium bottle in case you don't want to remake them

[hoary crag]

now to think of it

what are we even supposed to transfer to valley 4 once we get wuling metatransfer

[young igloo]

cancer

can we bottle sewage

[vale topaz]

none, my guess is new region will require v4 and wuling meta transfer

[vale topaz]

yes

[young igloo]

i wanna send some sewage or xircon eff there

[hoary crag]

yes, but only manually afaik

[pulsar cypress]

Pw gonna sell sewage to the citizens..

[vast iron]

Filling unit, no?

[young igloo]

idk havent test it

[hoary crag]

I wonder when endfield is getting its own profile widget

[hoary crag]

oh?

wait we can use filling unit to put sewage in bottles?

[fervent lodge]

why not

it's all liquids x all bottles

[sterile stratus]

is this recently added or it was a thing since sewage release

[hoary crag]

cuz it's so weird to see rivals get one before valorant, apex, fortnite, etc.

and even wuwa before major hoyo games and even those like zelda

[fervent lodge]

iirc release?

[sterile stratus]

hm

maybe that's just my bad memory

[fervent lodge]

it won't show up until you make it prob

[distant sphinx]

I keep abit to kickstart my xiacon loops

but that is really the only use for bottle sewage, cant fill anything, spray anything...... you can fill up with sewage but you can't dump sewage

[subtle finch]

i use option 1 and 2 depending on which bus side im working on

[hoary crag]

if we're choosing based on work pov, then mine would be 3 and 4

😭

[subtle finch]

actually in wuling it'll be 3 or 4

[hoary crag]

...

we can move the depot anywhere we want in wuling tho

[subtle finch]

you can see from my screenshot for example, i always orient the bus at the bottom

[fervent lodge]

i've always preferred 4...

[hoary crag]

it's literally like the only correct way

depot bus at the bottom

[fervent lodge]

and ye bus bottom is the only way

[subtle finch]

most v4 screenshot also have sandleaf at the botton,, so bus is top side

[hoary crag]

although for longer/taller builds I put my depot on the left

[fervent lodge]

else goddamn icons mess everything up

[subtle finch]

planters are the least significant unit you wanna look at, so i think they are bottom side in v4

[vale topaz]

almost at the middle, guess my orientation is based on Andre ( that owl professor or doctor )

[pulsar cypress]

[subtle finch]

we accept any orientation here

[fervent lodge]

i should recreate my v4 base

oh wait i can just blueprint it

pog

[subtle finch]

the sim became my go to tool when doing screenshots
don't having to time my screenshot for a brighter sky
don't have to wait for the clog or resting icon to disappear
don't have to deal with corners and edges darkening
and don't have to stitch things in an editor

[fervent lodge]

yeah pretty much

that's one of the primary reasons i wanted to do it

technically i can also straight up export your factory but that would require running a sussy exe on your computer so

i love sunday

[subtle finch]

wont giving our accounts be better? i know its sussy too, but players still give site like krooster permission

[fervent lodge]

i don't wanna ban people

[subtle finch]

this is what i used the priority belt for. its kinda useless but i wanna keep it a feature
its nice seeing the batteries accumulate and enter the depot in one go

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=c5z1V3U3X6R6g7

this is what i'm running rn

[subtle finch]

still making lc

[fervent lodge]

i mean it's free

nothing else to use amethyst for

[subtle finch]

cant belive you're a D, smh

[fervent lodge]

time to implement thermal banks

[fervent lodge]

idk it always felt natural to me

start on the left, go right

then start going up

i did rotate to L when i started doing the right side i think

[subtle finch]

power would be a piace of cake no?

[fervent lodge]

ye

[subtle finch]

unless you wanna implement pwm

[fervent lodge]

i mean pwm will come for free

i can just implement power as an item produced by a virtual recipe

[subtle finch]

i see

[fervent lodge]

and there you have it

[subtle finch]

can we talk about how bad the pc scrolling feels in this game

it's faster to click and swipe down in depot node to get to the bottom than scrolling

[hoary crag]

@subtle finch finally, a proper 8 forge setup

it does need 4 external sandleaf loops and 8 external jincao/yazhen loops tho

[fervent lodge]

lmao yeah that's what i do

[subtle finch]

parker square forge

[hoary crag]

I could technically fit one wuling planter in the free space

but I don't want to waste half a pump

[fervent lodge]

conduit 👍

place pump in the middle between wuling and outpost and split it with conduits both ways

[hoary crag]

plus it does let me store extra items for future use

[fervent lodge]

kekw

honestly i kinda wanna do that

just establish a Pumping Station

and get all my water from there

for both areas

fuck up my facility limit

[hoary crag]

I'd pretty much have to put my planters in stockade sub-pac

so core aic can focus on making everything

[small creek]

we have 6 in subpac right

think im satisfied with that lol

[tall tangle]

wait. am i missing something or it is possible to place more than 4 mold forges?

[subtle finch]

using bottles to transfer fluid between aics is maybe a cool idea, but its just extra power cost for nothing

[languid latch]

Got the same question. Why is there 8 forge, you are planning for the future?

[hoary crag]

yup

[subtle finch]

you guys don't have 8 forges?

[hoary crag]

we're still not sure how many forges we're getting in 1.2

tho the most popular speculations are 6 or 8

we even have a couple 6 forge designs here already

[solid python]

Imagine we get 0 forges

[hoary crag]

just did an 8 one for fun

[languid latch]

in this scenario, we would build battery and syringe in outpost?

[tawny ravine]

2nd sub pac in 1 week trust

[hoary crag]

core

[languid latch]

aah your design is in outpost. Nice

[hoary crag]

we're getting a new sub-pac in 1.2 iirc

was mentioned in 1.1 dev log

[small creek]

dawg do we even get enough water pumps in jingyu valley for 8 forges 😭

[fervent lodge]

so i realized i don't actually know how power mechanics work

[small creek]

outside of conduits, idt thats even possible

[tall tangle]

yall r right. space is a problem with forges. but i think i can squeeze in just 2 more. though i assume we'll get a new base with update too

[silent violet]

rely on the new one having enough

[hoary crag]

8 forges forces your planters to be off site

so you'd only need 4

[fervent lodge]

what the hell does this even mean
is this 2.75 power per 0.5s tick? or does it give all power at once and then... what?

[subtle finch]

o shiii, you summoned him

[fervent lodge]

like it consumes the battery immediately

power immediately spikes

right

then what's the consumption rate of machines? per tick? per 2s?

[small creek]

you have 220 power for 40 seconds

then it tries to consume again

[hoary crag]

battery enters thermal bank
-> power increases by amount for the whole duration
-> duration ends
-> power goes back down unless fed instantly

[small creek]

if no batteries available, you have 0 power

[languid latch]

You consume 1 battery during 40 sec to get 220 power during 40 sec

[fervent lodge]

yeah that part is visible, but for the machines that consume it

once you don't have enough power, they start to drain it

or the buffer starts climbing

it's the drain ticking behaviour that is unclear to me

[hoary crag]

per second

[languid latch]

There is a small battery that should be at 100% on top of your screen near power. Once it's at 0% everything shut down

[fervent lodge]

oh my god bruhh

let me reword

[subtle finch]

https://www.jdoodle.com/ia/1Q0h

[hoary crag]

Supply - Usage

^^^ result is added/subtracted to Power Reserves every second, can't go above 100k (100%) or below 0 (0%)

[subtle finch]

someone shared this dige tool to me, maybe you will get something there

[fervent lodge]

okay this makes more sense

[silent violet]

is that starficzs one

if it is it’s outdated pretty sure

[subtle finch]

no idea

[silent violet]

there r some issues with the loop back method

[fervent lodge]

Dang, this is kinda annoying to model ngl

i thought i could abstract power as an item

but it has special mechanics where it doesn't make sense to

specifically the "uptime duration"

[silent violet]

do ppl actually even care about pwm anymore?

[fervent lodge]

as it's not being "consumed"

[silent violet]

i thought u can’t pwm with the new batts

[fervent lodge]

you can pwm any batt no?

[silent violet]

not if u run out of energy in the buffer before the next one is consumed

[fervent lodge]

i don't really care for pwm, i got close with just 2 splitters and called it a day

and valley 4 is this

because of lc

[knotty egret]

How to increase forge of the sky limit?

[fervent lodge]

AIC plan

[knotty egret]

Ok

[hoary crag]

AIC plan

first tier gives you forge unlock and 1 extra, second gives you 2 extra, for a total of 4 for this patch

how many we're getting in the next patch? only HG knows

[tall tangle]

that'll probably trigger someone's perfectionism

[fervent lodge]

lace power banks

never before seen

[hoary crag]

joke's on you it looks good

[subtle finch]

you can, it's just harder to get the exact value you need, and there's more waste

[fervent lodge]

this has been there since the second beta btw

but yeah, only hg knows

[subtle finch]

see, i said its +1, +2, +3, +4
they called me a mad man

[languid latch]

Would be great, we'll see.

[subtle finch]

i couldn't get everything this week

[paper steeple]

What's max comp quantity?

[paper steeple]

Just buy deco

It increases the gacha luck

(I am jk)

[subtle finch]

[subtle finch]

be more clear

[paper steeple]

Like max local depot for them

[subtle finch]

58k right now in wuling 80k in v4

[paper steeple]

For example u can only have 23k parts

[paper steeple]

Ohh

Shi

I thought 20k is max
So i stopped production

[paper steeple]

Both comp right?

Green and red

[subtle finch]

all aic items have the same limit

[sterile mason]

Yo how is it that big

[tall tangle]

i dont think there is a reason to make all things super small. i dont remember ever running out of space

my forges are fat

[sterile mason]

Yeah sorry im just early game lol

Never imagined something THAT big

[jovial breach]

Not using wuling plants for carbon?

They give double carbon no reason to use buckflower

[sterile mason]

Guys which of the "EVERYTHING" blueprints should i choose if im Authority Level 25?

[pulsar cypress]

Its fine as long as it working as intended..

[sterile mason]

Im too lazy to do it myself tbh

[subtle finch]

always go for kyostinv if you dont know what you're doing

many blueprints out there assumes you know all the details already, and they tend to miss in giving you key info

[jovial breach]

Too early for "everything", just get a buck capsule C blueprint and a green battery bp

[tall tangle]

dunno how to. never cared. those plants need water and are just more pain to make

[jovial breach]

Literally just water

[sterile mason]

Wait, really?

[jovial breach]

And you save a ton of power and space

[subtle finch]

see, that's why people have different preference in building their aic

[dreamy jungle]

that's why i don't think we're getting 8 forges

[pulsar cypress]

Just follow story, unlock new maps area..
Build/craft some mining rig, mk2 also for ferrium if already unlocked..
Just explore and place rig at every mining node you find..

[jovial breach]

Your factory should always be making the highest battery you can make, but for buck capsule just stick with C until you unlock A tier, b tier isnt necessary

[subtle finch]

we getting 7, im staking all my tang tang credits

[tall tangle]

it's also not in instructions

[sterile mason]

Why battery?

I use the generators

[subtle finch]

there are many things that are not in instructions until you make them from tutorial

[jovial breach]

Thermal banks can use battery for more energy

[fervent lodge]

which is kinda idiotic if you avoid the tutorials

[ancient pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1485942788670357514/image.png?ex=69d38590&is=69d23410&hm=1253987a601a2aa3c14dc52fc2b3781729e90bf205ebb516354dac1e8dc6a1b1&

[sterile mason]

I just use Originium tbh

[fervent lodge]

just tell me the recipes god damn it
at least in a quest or something

well it doesn't matter because i use the planner anyway

but still

bad game design

[tall tangle]

[fervent lodge]

i'm so sorry you had to go through this

[jovial breach]

I mean yes that's early game, you'll beed battery for power and for selling as you progress in the game

[sterile mason]

Welp

Time to redesign everything...

[tall tangle]

well now i'm a little curious where do you get new C recipes

[sterile mason]

Look at my base, its a complete disaster lol

[pulsar cypress]

Using battery in thermal generate more energy and consume less than using originium..
Also, 2 thermal banks with battery can be equal to maybe 10-20 thermal with originium..

[sterile mason]

Thats why i asked for a everything blueprint haha

Dont have that much time to redesign everything

[subtle finch]

don't ask for everything blueprint yet until you max all aic and sub aic size and depot bus

[jovial breach]

Put jincao in or yazhen in refinery and watch the magic

[sterile mason]

And what should i do? Do i mix blueprints?

[subtle finch]

yes

[sterile mason]

Wouldn't that be so much wasted space?

[subtle finch]

you need it to upgrade the outpost, for that you need to build small production lines first

[pulsar cypress]

Search for like lc blueprint only or buck C blueprint only..
Place them one by one as u observe your yield/usage data..
Also energy..
So u wont have problem like lack ores supply or lack energy that make your factory died..

[subtle finch]

you cant just jump to mega base

[sterile mason]

So what should i start with?

[pulsar cypress]

But imo, for now just focus exploring and place mining rig on every mining node u find..

[sterile mason]

Aight

[subtle finch]

look for the most expensive thing the outpost is buying

[pulsar cypress]

So u won't have ore supply problem..

[sterile mason]

Yep yep, i need MK2 miners

[sterile mason]

The C thingy i think

Well the battery is 3 more

27 vs 30

[pulsar cypress]

For starting, keep the battery for supplying energy to factory first.
Just sell the med c imo..

[sterile mason]

I guess i have to make batteries then

[pulsar cypress]

Until u can upgrade to better battery and consume less of it for the factory..

[subtle finch]

battery lets you power more facilities, but it also depends what mineral beds you have right now

just sell the best that you can make with the ores you have access to

[pulsar cypress]

Making battery also consume many ores, thats why explore and place mining rig important..

[sterile mason]

140 originium 120 Amethist 20 Iron

(i mean income)

[subtle finch]

pretty sure kyostin guides you even if you have no depot bus and max outpost, that's why he's my go to when people ask for recommendations
he really make sure its built for beginners

[marble marsh]

I made this while extremely sleep deprived yesterday no clue why I made it lol

[low moth]

Quick stupid question, whats the difference between high and low purity ore veins, and how do I tell which is which from looking?

[knotty egret]

High purity yields more ore per second from mining. As for looks? It should show it in the map when u click on the icon

[low moth]

I mean i have seen that, but when i'm looking in game and not in the map, she's the only thing I think I can see as a difference.Is it produces more sparkle above the ore vein

[low moth]

And its pretty much what I thought anyways

[dreamy jungle]

use scanner

[low moth]

Ah

[subtle finch]

the classic blunder

[real crescent]

thats gonna fix itself when it clogs tho, no?

[fervent lodge]

it doesn't because round robin forces it to take from one or the other in turns

[iron stratus]

both planters will clog but the one that's giving 30/min wont take priority over the one giving 15/min so the 15/min out wont go to 30/min ever

[full quest]

Am i doing good?

[sonic summit]

MAKE Better battries?

[full quest]

I just got the flowers needed for it chill

I’ll do that tmr

Right now, i’m fine with blue batteries they do give me bank for buck

[sonic summit]

yah thats good meanwhile i need to fix my sc wuling battery

[full quest]

[full quest]

This is genius wait

[tender thistle]

What do you guys do with the extra 20/m in v4 and 30/m in wuling origium?

I've just been burning 15/m v4 and 30/m wuling in thermal banks for 100 and 200 power respectively

I'm using pwm on both maps so I'm using my 18/m hc batteries to power both maps completely to stockpile wuling sc batteries and still buy out the outposts

I'm tryna figure out if that's the most efficient thing to do or is there a better way

[full quest]

Actually is there an efficient way to transfer materials contrantly from wuling to valley?

[subtle finch]

yeah, just straight to banks, you can make 1/min hc bat in wuling and do a complicated pwm, but not worth it

[tender thistle]

I go on the ship and manually transfer with the backpack - each transfer can transfer 1750 at a time

I transfer everything to and from once a week when I have time - takes about 6mins

[full quest]

So if i maxed out my originium gain on valey but i still consume more than that, i need to restock manualy? Is there any automatic way?

[tender thistle]

Makes sense - plus then you need to accommodate for the extra facilities power

[subtle finch]

its not that bad. but its really just for players who have more ziplines than necessary

[tender thistle]

I keep extra overhead power of 160 on v4 and 120 in wuling, for when I want to use 8 and 6 combat facilities for essence farming respectively - I just turn the facilities off from the pylon when I'm done farming

[tender thistle]

If you're using more than 560/m origium on v4 you'll have to manually transfer raw origium from wuling (if you have extra to spare) to v4 manually since we don't have metatransfer for wuling yet

[full quest]

Shoot i need to reduce my powder consumption then

[tender thistle]

What are you making on v4?

If you make 18/m hc batteries 18/m buckA 24/m citroC you'll only use 540/m origium and still max out outposts

[subtle finch]

if you're using more than 560/m, dont

[full quest]

I make aprox 34 hc batteries according to the game 😭

(Since then i ran out of originium)

I just need money man

But fear not, i’ll develop a purple battery craft tmr and optimise the consumption

[leaden drift]

stress testing my zircon if clogged

[tender thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1481585300596588635

[leaden drift]

it should redirect the xiranite to overflow zones

[tender thistle]

For v4 I was lazy so I used this bp and then just removed all the extra stuff and protocol stashes

KyostinV's bps are also nice to use if you're lazy

[full quest]

Holy bro wow

I just need to harvest like 2 mineral finds and i can do these

The blueprint pastes the whole ass field right?

[tender thistle]

Yeah this bp collection uses all 3 outposts completely and also 3/4 of the main pac, but you can find bps that only use the main pac and leave the outposts empty if needed

[full quest]

Elite ball knowledge for industrialization fr

My fav part of endfield ngl

[tender thistle]

Same, at first I was just lazy af and used bps but then I started enjoying factory building and started making wuling from scratch

My mum would be fluking me why am I using a calculator while playing a game 🤣

[full quest]

Ah my father plays same typa games sometimes, strategic and optimizier games. He has a notebook for calcs

[sonic summit]

Wanna remake my wuling factory but i dont want to remove my output

[minor canopy]

So, I'm in Wuling, some regions of my base are devouring more water than others. Instead of just throwing down more fluid pumps, I'm considering making pipe balancers.

First, are throughput unlimited pipe balancers reasonable, and
second, is this prototype design a throughput unlimited 4-4 pipe balancer?

[full quest]

Best thing is that i just started act II so i have nothing on wuling 😔 🙏

[tender thistle]

Why don't you stockpile extra sc wuling batteries by using extra hc batteries for a while - then you'll have a stockpile of batteries to sell to clear out the outposts while you're building your factory so you don't lose out

[leaden drift]

so my xiranite overflow is working well

sewage overflow is working well too

and now with split maxed out

sends fully to the outside xiranite production

now i just need to make a tier system for overflow protection on xiranite

[subtle finch]

ive heard of sewage overflow, but what is xiranite overflow

[leaden drift]

if everything clogs

it goes a different direction

thats all

[subtle finch]

[leaden drift]

so if zircon maxes it backs up the xiranite

then causes them to go through a non-priority belt

then sent to storage

after sent to storage i need to make a variable overflow system

so right now i think my system at max can handle one fully clogged side

of SC batteries

and still be max producing

[tender thistle]

Is this for balancing equal water output if you don't have all 4 pumps connected in the beginning? Like if you only connect 3 pumps to the inlet pipes, you'll get 180/4 = 45 water/m output to each of the outlet pipes?

[leaden drift]

now that im producing SC batteries again

all overflow belts are clear

[minor canopy]

Well, yes, it could be used that way. I mainly designed it as "Some machines are not a max efficiency, but others are, and rather than using math, I'll just plug things in and let it sort itself out".

[tender thistle]

I see what you mean

So from what I understand the only 2 (or 3 depending if you starve all xiranite from 1 crucible or split it across 2 crucibles for components) machines that won't be using the full 30/m water would be crucibles when underfeeding xiranite and jazhen/jianco production for when you're producing yazhen/jiancoC (for 3/m yazhenC you'll only need half the production of one plant production)

[minor canopy]

Hmmmm

[tender thistle]

If you're under supplying xiranite to a crucible, you could use a split of that water to fill up a fluid tank that feeds your eco farm sprinklers, since they only switch on every 4 hours

Eg. If undersupplying xiranite by 10/m to produce 0.5/m xiranite and cuprium components each you have 10/m extra water

10/m water x 60mins x 4hrs = 2400 water - which can be stored in fluid tanks that act as a buffer - which is more than enough for 10 sprinklers

[little dock]

oh actually that gonna be balancing

[tender thistle]

What's up with with the crypto scam ads

[subtle finch]

that idea looks like this

[subtle finch]

i think you're basically making something like this
i advice you not to. some people throw the idea of manifold a lot, but from observation and reports from other players, the game's fluid doesn't behave like that

[minor canopy]

Hmmm. So pipe balancers are not reasonable. I see.

[uneven aspen]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Light_Xircon What's light xircon? how is there info about it? was it datamined? or can i see this in-game?

[light jacinth]

is there a way to place multiple of the same building in the top-down mode without going back and clicking on it every time?

[subtle finch]

probably beta, else they'd get sued to oblivion

[subtle finch]

holt ctrl

[light jacinth]

I am a dumbass, it says it on the side of the screen

[keen river]

probably datamined next liquid

[uneven aspen]

if it was datamined, gonna guess it's the yellow liquid

[keen river]

Light Xircon has a lower density than Xircon. Currently, Wuling Tianshi are trying to use this material for constructing personal body armor for members of the Yinglung Special Task Force.

given the description from that wiki

its probably for next tier of armor components

[uneven aspen]

"Acquired via crystal precipitation. Can be used to produce other materials."

Is this a hint on the new production unit?

melting xircon

[keen river]

or just a way to use quartz in wuling?

to be fair, might also be an abandoned idea from beta

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Plant_Matter like this is not a thing?

[uneven aspen]

im clueless what's been in beta or not

[subtle finch]

apparently this

[uneven aspen]

hmm plant matter has history from last year

while light xircon is last month

[uneven aspen]

are those icons for the research tree?

yup but it's for xiranite forges

[keen river]

no clue

even if its datamined, it doesnt really provide any info whatsoever

they already announced we will get new fluid and obviously it was going to be xiranite related

unfortunately, Version Preview stream had no belts or items at all

or not, there is something there on buggy belt, no clue what tho

[uneven aspen]

hmmm, so first one is unlocks forge, then +1 then +2 for a total of 4 xiranite forges

i wonder if the next 2 gonna be +1, +2, +3, or +4

fruit managed this in the outpost

[keen river]

if III has 3 pluses and IV has 4 pluses then it should be 7 more forges in 1.2? 🤔

but then we would need something that eats so much xiranite

ngl, im looking forward to what 1.2 is cooking

i also wonder if 1.3 will still be in wuling 🤔

[subtle finch]

i said that many times, but they don't like the number 7

[keen river]

but its not really 7 is it

its 11

[subtle finch]

i mean the next one

[uneven aspen]

I just want forges to be a multiple of 3 so the amount of sandleaf powder to grinder is perfect ratio.

or maybe they gonna have forges do something else other than xiranite

[keen river]

yeah, thats possible

they can already do fertilizer

[subtle finch]

so far there's no evidence that hg cares about perfect ratios for the best layout for profit or power

[tall tangle]

after a nap i made this abomination and happy about it

[keen river]

looks good to me

[subtle finch]

i didnt know you can flip the refiner-shredder and still get the same thing

[keen river]

You can, yeah

[fervent lodge]

i tried something like this with just 2 pipes

it clogs

instead of proportionally distributing flow

it restricts it

which makes sense because it introduces at least 2 contention points where flow chokes

[uneven aspen]

what does this mean?

[subtle finch]

is like something wrong with their graph update order?

i think that's peak

[fervent lodge]

peak transfer rate was at 27 then quickly went down to 20

honestly that's noise at this point

i should probably remove it, it's a leftover from when i was doing peak oscillation detection

right now it just catches a transient from the factory startup when things aren't yet clogged

[tall tangle]

it's on purpose. so that if i ever nuke it, i would prefer to have inventory filled with meds instead of carbon

[uneven aspen]

trying out doing the sc wuling battery without depot unloader on 4th sandleaf powder

[fervent lodge]

without depot unloader
has 9 depot unloaders

[keen river]

Remember kids, each time you swap shredder and refiner in unholy way, Mifu bonks the cat

[fervent lodge]

chat how do i test if this is correct without tearing down my entire goddamn factory

[subtle finch]

start adding manually

[fervent lodge]

i'll test this in 1.2 then when i tear down my entire shit

[uneven aspen]

so 1 planter+seeder is enough sustain itself and for 1 grinding machine but not 2?

[fervent lodge]

with 1 planter+seeder you get 1/2 sandleaf which is enough for 1.5 powder

[uneven aspen]

ah yeah that makes sense.

[fervent lodge]

you can see on the right it's eepy because not enough

[uneven aspen]

also forgot to connect a grinder to the packaging

[fervent lodge]

on the left grinding unit is not even connected

yea

[keen river]

If you want to save every leaf, just pack it to depot and unload where needed tbh

[fervent lodge]

^

most efficient way

[keen river]

Wuling has a massive amount of unload space

[fervent lodge]

it'll balance itself out

[keen river]

Yep

[uneven aspen]

i was considering decoupling xircon from my sc wuling produciton so was wondering if i can save on planting units

[keen river]

Not sure if there is much merit in uncoupling the xircon out of all things

It doesnt even use any planting units does it

[real crescent]

you could keep it together with your sewage production that way

[keen river]

Seem like more of a hassle that its worth 🤔

[knotty egret]

The planter on the left isn’t getting clogged because sandleaf is constantly being pulled but ifk a better way lol

[real crescent]

but ye overall i dont think it really matters much where you have it

you either import the xircon or the sewage

[keen river]

Yeah

You should definitely uncouple the xiranite (the base tier thing)

[uneven aspen]

More like Im thinking sc wuling batteries will be pointless in 1.2

but i might need a xircon production line

[iron stratus]

it alternates between left and right into the seed picker so it's only dispensing at half speed is it not

[keen river]

You will probably rebuild most/all stuff in 1.2 anyway

[fervent lodge]

can't wait to go kowalski analysis after the stream

[keen river]

Still at least like a week until 1.2 stream isnt it

[fervent lodge]

idk i was expecting like around now

[real crescent]

another sleeper woke up

[fervent lodge]

can someone check my math

[real crescent]

iirc based on the timing of the last stream it would have been today

[fervent lodge]

if i slap a belt of battery right into a thermal bank

i will end up using roughly 1.5/min battery right

[real crescent]

excactly yes

[fervent lodge]

yeah okay then i wasn't insane

good

checks out then

[keen river]

🤔yeah, seem about right

[fervent lodge]

also i should fix that thermal bank sprite

[keen river]

1.1 stream was on 1st march and then it released about 9 days later(?)

[fervent lodge]

heh, you can kinda DIGE this but I can't vouch for the numbers because the runtime probably is not gonna cover enough time for it to calc properly...

pushed, feel free to fool around, going to eep

WHOOPS

[subtle finch]

it's definitely a path

[subtle finch]

what would it take for it to cover like 1hr+ period?

[fervent lodge]

quadrupling the solver runtime

i'd have to go WASM at that point

i mean, it's doable.

just not now

i already sunk like 2 months into this project

[lone plover]

any new paths on manually using V4 materials to subsidize Wuling factory, outside of the ferrium metatransfer?

[solid python]

I've been meta transferring 1500 Dense Originium Powder since 1.1 launched.

[tender thistle]

Use hc valley bats to power both entire v4 and wuling, as you already produce enough to cover this as well as buy out the outposts

[lone plover]

You make the dense powder in v4 but the actual hc bats in Wuling right?

[upper fiber]

you can also just transfer the hc bat..

[lone plover]

is hc bat also at 1500 limit?

[upper fiber]

manual transfer...

meta is 30

[tender thistle]

No I just manually transfer the hc bats directly from v4 to wuling using the backpack while on the ship

[lone plover]

yeah that runs into the issue of "I go on vacation/can't play for a while now the whole Wuling AIC dies"

[tender thistle]

If you empty your backpack you can transfer 1750 at a time, takes like minutes to transfer a week worth of batteries

[upper fiber]

it is same result though

[lone plover]

though I guess you can use the splitter-converger trick to have it burn wuling bats when hc runs out

[solid python]

If you go on vacation, just toggle to Wuling batteries

[tender thistle]

If you don't login for a week your factory is automatically shut down by the game itself even if you have enough batteries

[tall tangle]

i transfer green triangular for armor parts. forgot the name. now that i live of t1 batteries life's good. in 1 week everything that's being crafted will cap anyways

[tender thistle]

I'm just doing it to horde sc batteries for when the new outpost drops

It's not really necessary

[solid python]

I'm at 96k SC batteries using the same method

[lone plover]

I think I'll do that. Had 2 SC lines and a bottle line for a cursed 1.0 setup so I can just turn those into parts

[solid python]

If you want those, you can meta Dense Originium Powder and get 2x more

[tall tangle]

no prob. just calculate power in advance

[lone plover]

I'm overcapping on Wuling SC bats atm so I'm figuring out how best to cap on parts while maintaining bill depletion

[tall tangle]

well i dunno for sure as i bought out pretty much everything, but i'm not sucking wuling dry. i'll make syringes eventually - that'll help. but do you really need all bills now?

[lone plover]

No actually now that I think about it, since it's an argument between

• Hoard Wuling artifice catalysts which will cost all the bills
• Let bills hit storage cap right on next patch drop to immediately hit regional development

[tall tangle]

either one is ok. ho~onestly it sounds like 1 or 2 day difference for reg dev maximum (if bills are empty)

[lone plover]

b...but muh day 1 dopamine and optimization

[lone plover]

Okay I checked and I think you might want to switch it to transfer Dense Originium Powder instead
Dense Originium Powder has a cap of 1500 while Origocrust powder and the triangle has 750 cap. However, Powder is converted into triangles at a 1:1 ratio by running it through two refining units

[knotty egret]

How to fix…

[iron stratus]

dont loop back the planter out

only loop back one planter and dont split its output

other planter only goes out

[peak sinew]

zero people looting this cave

[tall tangle]

thats an overkill for me, i dont consume this much. also more stations, more power, not ideal. though it might work for someone else who have very little armor pieces.

[peak sinew]

hm

should i delete zipline to this cool place that you need bug to reach for a convenient zip loot

[upper fiber]

do it before patched, or lost 1 zipline and pylon

[lone plover]

2 refining stations is negligible and you can always divert any excess to battery production

[hoary crag]

11 forges would be insane

[upper fiber]

main AIC worth

[hoary crag]

don't think so

[lone plover]

600 Cuprium income in the next area trust

[hoary crag]

I think it's still more ideal to have it in the sub-pac

since the main production lines will be the ones occupying the main aic

if they'd follow that and we'd get 7 forges for 1.2

I'd probably use my 8 forge design, but have the 8th line turned off

[upper fiber]

likely get the base product on 1 subpac, then 1 subpac for 11 forge

[hoary crag]

possible, it all comes down to how you separate the production line

if we still follow that image

then we'd probably get the last 4 forges at the same time we get our third sub-pac

[ruby sorrel]

actually being forced to split production lines would be neat

[hoary crag]

by then we can have:

sub-pac 1 to hold the 8 forge setup
sub-pac 2 will have the planters to support the 8 forge + room to spare for other stuff
sub-pac 3 to hold the last 3 forges, ideally taken from half a 6 forge setup to maximize space, which should give us at least half a sub-pac worth of free space

for pumps, the math is simple

4 pumps each for sub-pacs 1 and 2
3 pumps for sub-pac 3

[lone plover]

I think a lot of people aren't bothering with boletes in general

[hoary crag]

^^^

once we have enough we just stop bothering with getting more

[subtle finch]

what's even the point of pipe elevation restrictions
you can force it by placing intermediate pipes and removing them when you're done

[hoary crag]

I mean technically you could swap shredders and refineries in the xiranite line

wuling plant -> carbon -> carbon powder
wuling plant -> wuling plant powder -> carbon powder

[ruby sorrel]

what makes it unholy anyways

[vale topaz]

think during early days, many wrongly deployed them.
those 2 are mostly used as 1st phase of production line, very easy to get switched.

[pulsar cypress]

[vale topaz]

if you're not into hoarding, just use this picture as guide on how much you need to stock without the need of collecting them every 4 days.

[small creek]

or... just collect as needed

[cloud hearth]

i loot that cave and have almost the exact same zipline setup as you. though i guess that's no surprise given the constraints of the area...

[wispy grove]

Cleaning on mobile is so hard bro

[ruby sorrel]

yeah this basically proves you collect everything for about a week and then you have enough forever

maybe I shoujld just remove ziplines to those places since dijiang will cover all future needs, it would save a lot of power

[solid python]

That's just for 1 character

[pulsar cypress]

Whats this?

Oh, the poo spray event?

[vale topaz]

or at least leave the ones at hub map, valley / science park / quarry can be safely removed.
that map can cover the need for lvl 20-40

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I'm gonna leave the v4 ones cus the place is complete

and I focus dijiang on the higher tier ones anyways