aic-factory

[hoary crag]

most of the time you won't even need to use a pipe to its capacity unless you're going for very compact builds

so 1 pump -> 1 pipe -> 2 facilities would pretty much always do the trick

[ruby sorrel]

yeah flexible until you realise if you bundle 5 parts into 1 pipe that splitting it back into 5 equal parts is non-trivial

[hoary crag]

yeah which is why I said it's flexible but only to some extent

use it beyond capacity and you'll clog the pumps (or any other source facility)

feed it to more facilities than your supply and you'd lose efficiency

[pulsar cypress]

Another most important.. Wrong pipe splitting or branching, not enough water supply..

[hoary crag]

we should make a quick infographic for pipe distributions ngl

should be easy enough to do, right?

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Should be easy..

[ruby sorrel]

hmm jingyu has extra water from hydromining right?

[hoary crag]

no idea

I just capped mine at 3 veins per pump regardless of purity

also, almost done stockpiling this thing

[iron stratus]

if you put wuling city jingyu and qingbo outpost into 1 water grid you get i think 2/3 excess pumps worth of water

[ruby sorrel]

I need to organize my spreadsheet and not just have random numbers everywhere

yeah 3.5 water down there

[hidden temple]

we do have the writeup by hjoyn to link whenever someone asks about priority flow #1482466765459030056 message

[ruby sorrel]

I should just use the spare water from jingyu for farm

[hoary crag]

oh ic

time to read more ig

[rapid hedge]

yea extra 0.5 water

perfect for farm

[ruby sorrel]

gotta figure out wtf I did with the water down there though

conduits just make everything hard to understand

well I figured out my water, but what path do I take from jingyu to farm

just route it through the city cus I have no pipes there

[subtle finch]

that's a long write up to just say fluid splitters send it to the remaining output when one side is clogged

[hoary crag]

lol

[hidden temple]

when I was explaining pipe distribution to a friend, they were insisting that "closer facilities get less"
which is only part of what's happening, and only situationally true

I wanted them to understand that pipe splitters do split evenly like a belt splitter would
just that unlike belts, overflow/unused water is reaccumulated at the split

They got it after I brought up MS paint

a simple infographic doesn't sound like a bad idea

[subtle finch]

i nominate you in making it

[hidden temple]

I'll only have time for it in about 3 months

[subtle finch]

mods are not involved enough in this channel to give us commands for infographics

[ruby sorrel]

oh I'm out of area pipe logistics

no fun allowed

[subtle finch]

i wonder if they have the tech for 3d placement

im betting we'll get dorms, and it would be nice to have a 3rd axis placement

[hidden temple]

wonder how side view would look for 3d

cuz even top view isn't like fully isometric

wait no not isometric uhh

orthographic

[ruby sorrel]

oh I'm already at 127/128 awkward, I'll deal with issues later if they come up ig

[earnest steeple]

3d would be awful. If they do do it, I'd expect layers like how shapez 2 does it.

[hidden temple]

yeah would def have to be fixed layers

3 or even just 2

a grid would be a mess

[earnest steeple]

Yeah, I mean they have to support 3d mode though. And for that sometimes the detection for which part to select is already kind of bad.

[coral orchid]

Sad that no birthday celebration in Endfield

[subtle finch]

happy birthday

[subtle finch]

there, i fixed it for you. i hope you're happy

[pulsar cypress]

All the output goes to one belt.. It not clogging each others?

[subtle finch]

nope, 1 lane can handle 5gearing/packaging unit at max efficiency

[hoary crag]

I didn't expect you of all people to say that

the protocol stash calls your name

[small creek]

I have my standards

5 power is insulting

call me when i can save 10+

Stashes are an exception because while theyre 5 individually, theyre a lot more since its common to have one for each production line

Stashes must be purged

[hoary crag]

I would so love to see 3d placement for conveyor belts

[wispy grove]

[leaden drift]

me saying fudge it so i can focus on storing

[wispy grove]

16

What in the world

Lemme do it too

[leaden drift]

im using stored zircon

once my batteries are capped ill be storing zircon again passively

[wispy grove]

Ohhh okieee

Using amethyst bottle is wild

[leaden drift]

bottling xiranite again

[leaden drift]

starting it back up

gonna have every bottle of it

im doing weird stuff to do power again

[wispy grove]

You have 58k comps insane

[leaden drift]

this produces 1 LC battery to keep me above power

[hoary crag]

why the xiranite belt delay when it'll just clog anyway?

[leaden drift]

its timed

to make 1 battery exactly when i need it

[hoary crag]

fair

[leaden drift]

exact usage

along with the natural drain

infact im at like perfect power usage and regen

[mighty pulsar]

Low-key... Never use the factory

Just raw dog it

Whole story

[leaden drift]

yeah makes the game too eazy right

[mighty pulsar]

Frfr

[mighty pulsar]

Holy. 15 per minute

[leaden drift]

I didnt make any gear until i was fighting.... uhhhh the boss rematches for medals

[leaden drift]

its uhhh not sustainable

im going through reserves

to push my bats to max

then be able to store zircon again

and hoard more bottled xiranite without having to think

[mighty pulsar]

Imagine still using like forty thermal banks of originium

Couldn't be me

[leaden drift]

whats the max power of that

[mighty pulsar]

Idek

I use SC Wuling bats

Low-key wanna find out tho

Might make a burner acc just for it

[leaden drift]

i mean we could technically math it

[hoary crag]

40 originium thermals is insane

2k power

add base power that's 2.2k

[magic hull]

How is everyone handling waste water ?

My Xircon is directly connected to my cuprium refining.
I didn't notice my wuling battery 2 capped

and my whole cuprium shut down

[leaden drift]

I have an overflow treatment system

[hoary crag]

directly connected for me

[leaden drift]

that also bottles a majority of excess

[hoary crag]

I just make sure the batteries don't hit cap

[leaden drift]

any excess excess gets treated

[mighty pulsar]

Waste water goes into the ocean

[magic hull]

my wuling runs on 1 wuling 2 and valley HC
i just never expect it to cap

[magic hull]

and you just extract for xircons ?

[leaden drift]

nah in case i need it for future content

ill have extra liquid

[fervent spoke]

you could potentially do 64 thermal banks with ori in wuling

[mighty pulsar]

Gng... I finally achieved something great

[hoary crag]

16x4 yeah

[leaden drift]

i was able to make 25k zircon extra without having to reconfigure my normal bases opertations

[mighty pulsar]

80k glowbugs

[hoary crag]

lol

[mighty pulsar]

Now scorchbugs is next

[magic hull]

hmmm, thx everyone

[mighty pulsar]

There should be an achievement for this fr

[magic hull]

time to math more i guess

[mighty pulsar]

Nah gng. You should geography.

[wispy grove]

We should start making HC wuling bp

10originium
2 ferrium
4sewage
4xiranite

[hoary crag]

if HC wuling batteries need 4 xiranite, then they should give us 8 forges ngl

[wispy grove]

Ofc they will

[hoary crag]

cuz not being able to have at least 12/min prod on hcv batteries is insane

[wispy grove]

Ill gonna do 3/4 hc again

On the originium tho

Needs 7.5

Separate facilities will shine here

[small creek]

should only take 3 xiranite imo

4 xiranite is insane

[wispy grove]

Thats what i thought too but the crucible will look horrendous

Imagine you need 3 xircon eff in one crucible

Or maybe thats what the new crucible will do

[hoary crag]

the new reactor exists

unfortunately we still can't have any secondary processes using the effluent reactors

since it takes up all 4 pipe slots

it would let us do xircon and liquid xiranite in one reactor

bringing the SC wuling battery line down to 4 reactors

tho I'm still annoyed we can't overclock facilities, especially reactors

[wispy grove]

Hmm

[native laurel]

yo chat am lost where do wk the reqs for HC

wulingbat

[wispy grove]

Next patch

[hoary crag]

HC wuling batteries don't exist yet

[hoary crag]

very likely to be added next patch

but no confirmation yet

[native laurel]

yeye i was lost looking at this covno looking for source for the requirements lol

[wispy grove]

Oh we just guessing

[hoary crag]

rossi banner ends in like the 16th or 17th, right?

[wispy grove]

Atleast we have blueprint ready just incase we guessed it right

[hoary crag]

we should be getting 1.2 dev log anytime soon

[wispy grove]

Next week i think

[hoary crag]

but still no confirmation from them about that as well

[wispy grove]

If mifu a rossi support. Ill regret pulling more on her banner just to get rossi sig

[hoary crag]

if so, then they're probably thinking that they gave us too much time between 1.1 dev log and release

[wispy grove]

[hoary crag]

since if the time gap is the same as 1.1

then 1.2 dev log would be tomorrow if I'm not mistaken

[upper fiber]

no twitterfeed so not tomorrow for sure

if following yowaistar's teaching then it is 4days before update

[hoary crag]

yeah that's why I feel like they're going to shorten the time between dev log and release

[hoary crag]

then it'd be next sunday

given that rossi banner ends on the 17th

[upper fiber]

should be sunday for devlog if they didn't change it

[hoary crag]

I mean they definitely did

otherwise it'd be tomorrow

😭

[fluid fog]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ina-ninomae-inanis

[hoary crag]

while almost having impossibly low chances

I hope they shadowdrop dev log tomorrow

I want my AIC updates 😭

[fluid fog]

should always be 1 week before next patched so I expect tom or until next weekend

[thorn harness]

When using this setup I keep on getting the problem where these two reactor crucibles keep on getting backed up on Xircon Effluent and Inert Xircon Effluent over night. When I leave the setup as is the input/output seems stable but this has happened multiple times when I would just log in the next day to find both of these reactors clogged and unable to produce anything. Is there any way to fix this?

[mighty pulsar]

Have you tried a water cleanser taking the efluents??

Idek

[ruby sorrel]

let the xiranite backup first maybe? or just don't pass sewage through it

[hoary crag]

it does look like the sewage passing through is causing the issue

if the xiranite eventually drops to 0

it likely switches to producing the effluents since the ingredients are there

and it clogs due to lack of output

[ruby sorrel]

tbh just delete and place again and see if that fixes it

[hoary crag]

the only solution so far I could think of is to not have the sewage pass through that reactor

[ruby sorrel]

I've had cases where swapping inputs makes it refuse to do the reaction

[thorn harness]

Ok I see it now, thanks for the answers everyone

[worn creek]

Try adding a fluid tank between the refinery and crucible or make a separate cuprium factory and use conduit to act as a fluid tank itself

[wispy grove]

Remove those control ports

[thorn harness]

I've tried rerouting the refinery sewage pipes to go directly to the reactor crucibles in the front to bypass the problem that was happening in the previous two.

[wispy grove]

Uhuh

[thorn harness]

So it should fix the issue of backing up (hopefully)

[wispy grove]

Did it work?

[thorn harness]

It is functioning now, but I will have no way of telling until I log in tomorrow to check if it properly works

[upper fiber]

i think it is okay now

[mighty pulsar]

I wish you luck gng

[wispy grove]

Ohhh just update is if it still doesnt work

Cause i have the same wierd issue when the layout of belts affects the whole factory

This one have sewage build up

[thorn harness]

Will do!

[wispy grove]

I mean this one doesnt

Which is really weird

Cause they indirectly affects crucibles

[hidden temple]

it should, since there would be no way for the first two reactors to produce effluent anymore
it was only occurring cuz it had the ingredients to make it

[wispy grove]

That's fair

[narrow garden]

um lol

where is said depot bus

\

[thorn harness]

You have to build and place them

[pulsar cypress]

For wuling, u craft em..

[narrow garden]

wtf

[thorn harness]

In there

[pulsar cypress]

The benefits is, u can place em anywhere u want inside the area.
Not limited in the outside only like in v4..

[narrow garden]

oh that's cool

[small creek]

the disadvantage? they take up space inside the aic area

[pulsar cypress]

*well.. We have not many to build anyway in wuling..

[shrewd knoll]

no fix will ever fix what i saw with that one single offset moulding unit

[narrow garden]

wait have protocl stash buildings always been a thing

wtf

[pulsar cypress]

Yep..

[narrow garden]

wow my shit can be sm prettier

did you guys pull power for the hulu cave ore from jingyu valley or the ore node up north

jingyu almost seems closer

[ancient pier]

I pull from up north, cuase I was building the zips for the collectibles also

[pulsar cypress]

From the water pond besides each.

[narrow garden]

yeah i mean where do you pull power for the pumps from

[pulsar cypress]

Embrace the plumbing era..

Mine like this.. More or less..
Following zips for delivery and rare items..

[paper steeple]

In inventory

Wulling depot bus is moveable

[subtle finch]

one planter one seeder produces 15/min sandleaf right?

or is it 10?

[nocturne stag]

15

[static fjord]

Can someone explain why my pwm isnt working?

Im using this bp

[marble yarrow]

because that splitter config is still fast

[static fjord]

fr? dam

[marble yarrow]

thats once every 32 seconds, still faster than battery consumptions

[static fjord]

wOw

okay

dyk where i can find pwm blueprints or the calculations for it

[marble yarrow]

if you actually add 4 paths on the left (you did 4 paths to the right) then it becomes 162 sec/batt

[static fjord]

icic

So this should work?

[marble yarrow]

yeah

[static fjord]

Okay thanks 🙏

[marble yarrow]

basically its 2s (unloader speed) times 3 (6) times 3 (18) times 3 (54) times 3 (162)

[river wadi]

why cant you just have one belt flowing directly into the thermal bank whya re those splitters necessary

[rapid hedge]

to save power

[river wadi]

how does that save power

[rapid hedge]

you use less battery

if you use 2 battery

you're more likely to have a lot of unused power

splitters delay batteries coming to your thermal bank

it's not necessary bc you'll prolly have enough for weekly artifice mats

without having to min/max battery usage

[river wadi]

is it like you are periodically draining the reserves and timing the batteries so it fills up the power reserves just enough to keep going

[rapid hedge]

yes

something like that

[zinc river]

guys why's my originium yield in wuling only 390?

[river wadi]

regional development level not max?

[hidden temple]

rdm8 for higher purity
missed nodes
unpowered nodes

[nocturne stag]

390 seems to be missing nodes

The cave i bet

[zinc river]

i justw atched vid

ic it now

thanks fam

[young igloo]

who care u dont even use the outpost

plenty of space just to be limited by the building limit

[ruby crypt]

I logged in today and found out my factory in wuling failed to work. Turns out the refining unit making them cupriums isn't producing the sewage needed for the reactor crucibles cuz the cuprium inside my backpack is practically full. Got any solutions cuz I'm practically braindead about these stuff

[subtle finch]

make syringe A

[marble yarrow]

4k power, and not even processing cuprium

[young igloo]

syringe A, or atp just discard half of your copium

[marble yarrow]

parts, and sell

[young igloo]

yeah turn them into parts work

u need component or stuff anyway

[upper fiber]

do you think we will get yazhenS recipe next? and why yazhenB not exist, it is hidden recipe or what

[ruby sorrel]

dunno but I see they're named I and II instead of C and A in other language

[upper fiber]

i see, so it is just EN localization shet

[wispy grove]

Amethyst on 1.2

[upper fiber]

nah yazhenA is actually yazhenB

i wonder how they will fix this naming when new yazhen out

[ruby sorrel]

yazhen A+

[hidden temple]

yazhen S

[upper fiber]

AAA

[rapid hedge]

yazhen A pro

[hidden temple]

yazhen A: reborn

[young igloo]

zaahen

[bright zodiac]

yazhen Ultra S Max

[pulsar cypress]

New one will be yazcao..
Using 2 powder type..

[tawny shadow]

yazhen bath water

[true parrot]

guys i'm REALLY struggling with power production 😔 i keep trying to figure out a way to increase my power and how many batteries i'm producing, but it's just... it keeps burning through batteries, clogging, and jamming everything up faster than i can figure out how to balance it

i want to start mining ferrium in the science park but i don't have the power capacity for routing and running them

are there any beginner-friendly ways to keep a steady flow of power that doesn't brick my whole system?

[young igloo]

more thermal

[pulsar cypress]

What are you currently producing at factory and how many part of maps ur unlocked?

[young igloo]

or just craft a few sc battery first

by manual mining

[ruby sorrel]

well you can dump all your originium production into thermal banks

surely that's enough to set up a few miners

[true parrot]

i've just unlocked science park and its outpost a couple days ago, haven't even started on anything that comes after it but my refugee camp subpac is lvl 3 with 1 depot upgrade and 1 area expansion upgrade, same upgrades for infra-station subpac, and full area expansion for main pac (not all depot upgrades tho)

[hoary crag]

hmm

can we see your AIC report?

especially ores

[ruby sorrel]

I'm confused how you're not able to increase LC production without jamming everything and making it stop

do you just not have enough amethyst

[hoary crag]

the only logical solution is that they don't have a fully efficient LC battery line

that would cause clogging, but if requirements are met, should still result in a full uptime

so maybe they don't have full uptime on the LC battery line

[true parrot]

i REALLY don't, it's so bad i'm overcapping on amethyst PARTS

[hoary crag]

oh there we go

[wispy grove]

Show us your factory

[hoary crag]

@true parrot if you want a fully efficient LC battery line, you'd need 1 line for amethyst parts, and 2 lines for originium powder

the resulting LC battery line will be enough to feed 2 thermal banks with some to spare

for a total add-on of 440 power

[ruby sorrel]

feeds 4

[hoary crag]

oh yeah right it feeds 4

so each LC battery line will give you a total of 880 power

[true parrot]

okay, so i need to have the originium powder and parts feed into a loader/stash/into the PAC, then route 2 lines of powder and 1 line of parts per battery line?

[upper fiber]

show your aic report for ore yield

[hoary crag]

do you already have depot buses in core aic?

[ruby sorrel]

no just feed it directly into the packaging unit

[hoary crag]

^^

[young igloo]

yeah it gonna take a while to walk through all the aic stuff lmao

[ruby sorrel]

don't waste space feeding it in and taking it back out

[young igloo]

try the simulation

[true parrot]

currently, it's off and at 0/min bc 1) i'm capped and 2) i have no power 😭

[hoary crag]

😭

[upper fiber]

turn them off first then....

[true parrot]

i did the simulation already, my dumb ahh just spammed down as many battery production blueprints as i could

[hoary crag]

try to remove and turn off some of the mining spots first to recover originium

[true parrot]

not actually helpful

[hoary crag]

that will give you temporary power to set up your LC battery line

@true parrot just to confirm, you already have at least a depot bus upgrade in core aic, right?

[true parrot]

originium is NAWT the problem here gang, i got plenty 😭

[true parrot]

yes

[narrow garden]

wtf why

[upper fiber]

btw, you can just slot in ori ore to thermal bank for fast power

[hoary crag]

do you want us to walk you through it now?

or do you want an instant solution to solve the immediate problem, and then help you walk thru it for futureproofing?

[true parrot]

tbh i could buy more bus upgrades

[true parrot]

honestly, if i could have someone walk me through the solution as i set it up, that'd actually be super helpful

[hoary crag]

alright then

[ruby sorrel]

okay so generate power by dumping originium ore into a few thermal banks, build a functional LC battery line, transition to battery power, go mining ferrium

[true parrot]

i'm more than willing to vc and stream my screen too

[upper fiber]

where is your subpac located

[narrow garden]

bruh it was some dropped items on the ground

[hoary crag]

I can do around 10 minutes

should be more than enough time

lemme just drink water first

[true parrot]

ofc, you're a legend 😭

[hoary crag]

idk how the voice channel system here works yet so I'll see ya at dms

[true parrot]

for now, i've switched my thermal banks to originium ore usage just to have enough power to kickstart things

[hoary crag]

or if it even works at all

[true parrot]

it's locked, so it doesn't seem like we can create vcs

weird

[hoary crag]

[true parrot]

hai

[hoary crag]

@true parrot before I dip to prepare dinner

you can check each product's production chain by looking them up in the database

it's in the lower right of the product overview

it should tell you all about the needed raw materials, and what they need to go through before it becomes the final product

understanding the production chain may or may not allow you to entirely skip tutorials as you'll be able to understand everything from the get go if you follow the chain to the letter

if you need more help, feel free to ask here anytime

I'm not the only regular here

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-2405038352056726836

[true parrot]

ty! understood. i mostly get the ingredient chain, i just didn't quite get the ratios required. but now i do, and hopefully i can avoid mishaps like that again

[bright zodiac]

your issue is.... at your progress, you should hev ferrium income

many good stuff lock behind ferrium, including better battery (way higher power output) and higher meds for sale

[young igloo]

good stuff actually locked behind sandleaf

i still remember the moment i got my first sandleaf

reinnovate for straight 3 hours

[bright zodiac]

i know, im rushing power plateau second teleporter just to be able to meet sandleaf back then on day1, reach it on day2 tho

but the moment they set foot on science park, its ferrium ofc

[young igloo]

i dont have that feeling when i got copium

hope we have some interesting stuff next patch

[bright zodiac]

and the moment i set foot on qingbo

copium indeed

[young igloo]

an experienced aic professional skip the story to get the new mats

[bright zodiac]

to be very fairly honest and fair

rushing and get head start of immediately earning new stuff/mats, .... doesnt really change that much compare to others who start quite late (im on the rushing side)

[upper fiber]

only 20 catalyst difference

if you're late by 1 week

[steady canyon]

how many water pumps can you flow into one fluid inlet/outlet without it bottlenecking?

[hidden temple]

2 pumps

[steady canyon]

thanks!

[young igloo]

iirc its 60?

40 pre 1.1

[rocky niche]

rushing on new stuffs is like eating food very fast and seeing people still not yet done with their food since they slow to eat or they savor food slowly (others who start late) is like making you want to eat more or to just wait them to finish

[silent violet]

counter point switch to something else when finished eating

[rocky niche]

that's also another option

[young igloo]

sike i dont have one to eat with

f im miserable

[bold hemlock]

Why is this not working?

[fervent lodge]

is that xiranite + sewage?

[bold hemlock]

I think so? Im really lost rn

[fervent lodge]

oh, i think you need to unlock the new tier of the crucible for this to work

in AIC plan

[bold hemlock]

Ahhhh, no wonder!

I've been stressing for like an hour wondering why it didnt work

Thank you so much!!

[lone pebble]

check the formula

[hoary crag]

nah it's what algo said

still need to research reactor upgrade

[keen river]

You need to unlock second tier in research tree

[outer patrol]

so to make a SC Wuling Battery i need to connect it to cuprium refinery? as much as i see it the sewage water is the problem

[hoary crag]

yup

[outer patrol]

[pulsar cypress]

*blame everything to the sewage

[outer patrol]

not gonna bother on this for now.. gonna need to wait next version for more sewage src ... its still a problem if the cuprium materials is maximize too

[pulsar cypress]

Copium never max if u make the drink..

Refine to part & bottle.. Process to be medA.. Sell em..

The sewage produced goes to battery plant..

[hoary crag]

I was checking on my sub-pac since I went back to doing 12/min SC batteries and I have to say

[outer patrol]

ah yazhen syringe

[hoary crag]

I'm proud of my past self

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.

[outer patrol]

didnt notice that part

okie thank a mil

[pulsar cypress]

*your problem change to your meds/battery maxed..

[subtle finch]

you're so close to the bus, and you use a protocol stash?
truly a stash connoisseur

[fervent lodge]

a stashficionado

[pulsar cypress]

Long live stasher..

[hoary crag]

when you finally remember that AIC areas have their separate facility limits... (I already hit cap in core aic)

half of it gonna be yazhen C, and the other will be jincao drink

yes C tier stuff to help with upgrading new outposts

[pulsar cypress]

Me just dump em to v4..

[subtle finch]

someone was correcting my blueprint earlier saying they can optimize 4 belt bridges.
i didn't know what they mean at first, but now i understand, its more room for protocol stash

[cyan forge]

Huh, what's that?

[pulsar cypress]

End products stock..

[cyan forge]

Hmright, kinda wonderin

What does the dif mode in protocol stash do?

The one ppl typically use is belt free right?

Which tp whatever goes in into aic

[pulsar cypress]

Belt free transfer to send end product to depot without making a long belt highway across the factory land..

.
Storage mode just to store excess stock like above without consuming energy, or to do evenly split of items.

[cyan forge]

Basically external storage? What's stopping u from just using beltfree unpowered stash then?

[subtle finch]

nothing, its faster to do belt free unpowered, because you can mass turn off, but you can't mass select and turn it to storage mode

[pulsar cypress]

Like this, top left stash..

It store 2 different qty refining input..
30/mins ferrium and 25/mins ferrium

Then divide it evenly for the next stage..
Not sending it to depot..

[subtle finch]

for bulk select and turning off stuff, if you want to exclude transfer, then that will come in handy

[cyan forge]

I see

[cyan forge]

That wasn't what i asked, but hikarin alr answered my question anw

Thx

[fervent spoke]

good old belt balancer

[subtle finch]

hmm, yeah, that's a belt balancer, but i don't recommend it for that use case

[cyan forge]

It so good

Not that am using it these days

[fervent spoke]

fluid tank should have multiple in and outlets too

[subtle finch]

a 25/min lane limiter is better because you get consistent aic report, compare to that which will drain your metastorage before you reach the full 60mins

[pulsar cypress]

Its good enough for lazy dumb brain like me..
And it works fine so still ok.. XD

[fervent spoke]

there is a 25/m limiter

[small creek]

there is a loaderless version

[fervent spoke]

i assume the space constraint justified the loader version

[subtle finch]

oh that's 25, mb then

[subtle finch]

smart actually

[small creek]

there are pros and cons to both

loaderless tends to take more vertical space

[subtle finch]

this is my loader-less version, its the usual 25/min limiter

[small creek]

higk i think u can kill a bridge here

if u swap the ferrite and ferrite ore unloaders

[pulsar cypress]

The refining output between 30 and 25 didn't equal, so the stash equalize it and send it evenly..

In simple brain way of thinking..

[subtle finch]

now my belts are all looking funny

[pulsar cypress]

Now drag whole setup 2 block right so the belt is straight..

Oh cant coz the cope on left corner..

[subtle finch]

i really didn't know i had to optimize for bridges and logistics until people start pointing it out

[fervent lodge]

lmfao i hate when that happens

but at least there's leeway to do that

[subtle finch]

i can still tolerate it, but double s is a no deal for me

[small creek]

some ppl have shitty zipline and relay so the AIC cant have too much

[pulsar cypress]

Its fibe as long as its working.. XD

[small creek]

my design has like 30 facility left

kinda crazy

[cyan forge]

I haven't even built my zipline system

[subtle finch]

this for example, would you keep the bridge or go for this

[cyan forge]

Mine is like 10? With like only below 10 zipline

I guess i used too much bridge trying to optimize for power

[pulsar cypress]

Me will be

XD

[small creek]

eh that doesnt save much

[humble nimbus]

me will be

[small creek]

ew bridge

[humble nimbus]

exactly

also why am i writing from this alt

[subtle finch]

1 bridge is 1 protocol stash right?

[fervent lodge]

[subtle finch]

they should weigh stuff according to usefulness and size

[pulsar cypress]

Or just this..

[subtle finch]

that's how i had it at first, but bus access comes at a premium

[fervent lodge]

man
i'm considering just abandoning the idea of inlining sandleaf + yazhen/jincao into xiranite

everything ends up being so ugly

[pulsar cypress]

Wide wise its almost similar with ur current one..

[pulsar cypress]

What my dumb brain always try to do before..
Then give up, using fruit design one now..

Its small and compact.. Pretty nice..

[subtle finch]

i realized that when i saw people using the 2 sided bus efficiently, we cant be building like we're still in v4

[fervent lodge]

i always have been just shipping my flowers from elsewhere

because you just do this and it's WHATEVER

depot bus is literally expendable in wuling

[pulsar cypress]

XD

*me who didn't use the 2 sided bus efficiently..

[river echo]

xiranite? mine looks like this :v

[subtle finch]

what xiranite, i only see 2 gorillas

[river echo]

idk how you want your plants to look but heres mine if you want some reference :v

[fervent spoke]

4 dancing monkeys? xD

[river echo]

also im here to introduce my proud mess :v xircon x2, cuprium bottle x1, cuprium part x2, yazhen/jincao[A] switchable and can be switched to make gear component with minimum reconnection

[mighty pasture]

only upgraded the whole field but where do i start?

[subtle finch]

kyostinv baby

that field might as well be small size if you dont get the depot bus

buy and sell with elastic goods, and do your depot delivery to earn more bills

[river echo]

plant > xiranite > battery > gear component > healing items > xircon > purple battery imo

[subtle finch]

its faster than whatever you're gonna produce in aic

once you got the depot busses, you can start producing those mid to high tier item and start selling and upgrading your outpost

[river echo]

my electric V6 engine lol

[mighty pasture]

yea... seen everything

but i feel like i accomplish nothing from just copy paste

[subtle finch]

every advice here is the same, look what you can sell, check the production chain, and start placing facilities and belts

[mighty pasture]

can i see some bank thermal layout tho?

[mighty pasture]

WAIT

sorry caps

i can use battery for the bank?

[sick basin]

Ofc..

[river echo]

depending i just do it like this lol

[sick basin]

Dont tell me have 50 lines of originium

For power

[mighty pasture]

whatever you see rn

apologies for being beginner

[subtle finch]

we all start somewhere

[sick basin]

Im not flaming you, its just hilarious to see

But yes, of course batteries are used for power in banks

[lucid sentinel]

god,the song that plays on the AIC areas makes me feel so smart whenever I'm starting a new production,for some reason

[mighty pasture]

so the battery being in thermal bank last longer than base originium?

[sick basin]

Batteries last 40s

And even the lowest battery tier gives u 200 power

[river echo]

there is a chart

[mighty pasture]

so more power and last longer?

[sick basin]

Highest (in valley) is the purple HC battery that gives 1.1k

[mighty pasture]

time to figure something out

[sick basin]

Idk how far you are down the production line and what your options are, but start with LC battery

[river echo]

you should have a blueprint for the battery if you done the tutorial

[sick basin]

Or to be more precise, make those batteries that your outposts can buy

The game bp isnt very good one but, its good enougj to give u the idea ti get started

[mighty pasture]

i already have SC battery running

just to sell for outpost leveling

[subtle finch]

nice

[river echo]

your SC battery packaging unit just change it to this setup and it will run better than your current power line

[mighty pasture]

buck capsule A for selling also

[subtle finch]

if you use it to power your base, you can use more originium in making more battery

[mighty pasture]

i made steel from other base and let it out from here

[pulsar cypress]

Uh, ur planting system is wrong..
It will died later..

[mighty pasture]

been running 2 days

no issue

[fervent lodge]

it won't die, it's just running at half efficiency

[river echo]

need a little more understanding but you will get there eventually

[mighty pasture]

if you talking about only plant it's probably covered at other base

[pulsar cypress]

Oh yea.. Half efficiency.

[mighty pasture]

tempted to do this after knowing how depot works

[subtle finch]

check the guide about planting unit again, they recommend 2 planting unit for one seeding unit

you get double the output with 1 less seeder

[mighty pasture]

interesting

[pulsar cypress]

This is a bad blueprint to introduce for learning..
Many excessive belt use..

[sterile stratus]

those bridges look funny lol

why you need 6 belts to the Pr... tho

symmetric?

[subtle finch]

for speed

[pulsar cypress]

Something like this..
3 facilities but double output than the current you use..

[river echo]

this max efficiency planting

[river echo]

yes :v

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

[mighty pasture]

still got a lot to discover

wuling would be extra pain

[river echo]

just making a big square lol

[mighty pasture]

at least i got my xiranite running well

base just looks horrible

but if it works, it works

[subtle finch]

wait what

[mighty pasture]

gotta check again

[subtle finch]

i dont even want to ask how many planters that xiranite took

[river echo]

there is a difference between working and efficient

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. For beginning, as long as its working thats good..
Can edit and maximize later..

[subtle finch]

and originium thermal bank

[pulsar cypress]

My dumb past self..

[mighty pasture]

i'm laughing while seeing this

[river echo]

out 30 in 30 its steady :v

[subtle finch]

im guessing you speedran that to make components

[pulsar cypress]

Sustaining hc v4 bat and buck plants with like 20-30 originium thermal ig..

[mighty pasture]

fr

[lucid sentinel]

god i hate it whenever I need to craft something that requires 2 ingredients but one ingredient fills up faster than the other one and now there's too much of one and not a lot of the other

also happens with 2-1 required crafts,I hate it...

[river echo]

what you crafing?

[upper fiber]

just input twice the 2 one

[mighty pasture]

i'm still using originium at wuling too

what can i say

[river echo]

yep

[upper fiber]

item control port... bricking yourself

[pulsar cypress]

Its ok.. Tats my past self when totally dumb at factory..
Using 20-30 originium thermal coz didn't realize can use battery for it..

[river echo]

its so i can change yazhen and jincao bottle in a sec if i switch lol

and minimum congestion

[mighty pasture]

i just use the whole space for wuling

too poor for upgrade

need to use the double plant strat

[river echo]

bro probably took more brain power to do that than i need to do mine lol

[mighty pasture]

it works that's what matter

i'm selling my battery, originium is eternal

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. What matter is it works fine..
Just optimize it later bit by bit..

[subtle finch]

you are making cuprium components too
you've got this

[mighty pasture]

i got both components running

slow but its ok cause i don't have the money

[upper fiber]

where did you get carbon powder from

[subtle finch]

buckflower

[mighty pasture]

nah
wuling plant

double the carbon

[subtle finch]

[upper fiber]

where do you shred them

[pulsar cypress]

Also, try reading the recipes..
Like sandleaf when shredding to powder, it produced 3 powder per 1 sand..
You only set 1 output, so can save 2 shredder unit later on when optimizing..

[river echo]

sandleaf into carbon

[mighty pasture]

oh
another base

[subtle finch]

you'll be fine, you just skipped some info

[upper fiber]

why not here, so you can output 2 carbon per grinding unit

[river echo]

oh my bad thats for the sugar cube

[mighty pasture]

cause my brain stop working

[subtle finch]

they're not really going yet for efficiency

[upper fiber]

yeah, it is a good start

[pulsar cypress]

They still learning how each facility works..

[upper fiber]

i just use people's bp and tweaking them later

[mighty pasture]

there's actually not enough space when i realize so i decided to make the carbon powder somewhere else

i did shred there before

it's not working efficiently as this one

[upper fiber]

you just need to put the shredder here though, plenty of space

[river echo]

base still small understandable

[mighty pasture]

i plan to redo everything when maxed the base

for now, we chill with exploring, questing, and character building

[modern nova]

bruh wheres my symmetry

why no flip button

[upper fiber]

might as well wait for 1.2 so more headache at once

[river echo]

your current focus should be yazhen syringe or jincao drink

[pulsar cypress]

[river echo]

and battery if you can trade that lol

[mighty pasture]

these all originium bank

a row of madness

[modern nova]

very much yes

[mighty pasture]

and i put my depot in the worse possible spot i might have to redo everything now

[river echo]

where tf you getting the originium ore lol

[modern nova]

i made a neat compact xiranite forge and now i cant flip it

[mighty pasture]

put em at protocol stash and put it on storage mode

they steadily coming out without running out of power

[river echo]

im more suprise that you have not run out of originium ore lol

[river echo]

it has water line so cant flip anyways lol

[mighty pasture]

actually...

the mining does it job so i have nothing to worry

it's like in stable state

[subtle finch]

if you need more lanes, a splitter should be enough, you dont need to use protocol stash all the time

[river echo]

all the ores that could have been made into something else

[mighty pasture]

time to look for more originium mining site

if you haven't told me that i wouldn't have realize it's actually dry 0

is hydro mining or electric mining rig is faster?

[fervent spoke]

they are the same

[mighty pasture]

ok

[fervent spoke]

only power usage is different

[mighty pasture]

it's dry

yet stable

[subtle finch]

like a middle age mom

[modern nova]

chat why is this not 100% efficiency?

nvm found it

[subtle finch]

were you throwing the effluent?

[low moth]

Are there any layouts for Buck Caps A

[modern nova]

forgot pipe splitters work like regular splitters

[subtle finch]

i do but asia unfortunately

[cyan forge]

#1461542035617091681

[low moth]

I mean yeah, but I cant find any, ill look again tho.

[modern nova]

pog

[subtle finch]

this is the nicest one i can find, but i dont have the bp code for na/eu, it's for main pac only, and its small and symmetric, you can fit 3
maybe you're willing to copy it by hand

[small creek]

I recognize this bp...

Leander used this in his 18/12, or at least a modifed version of it

[subtle finch]

i think i got it from reddit ages ago

did he got it smaller?

[small creek]

yea its modified

[modern nova]

mines like this

[small creek]

nah he just moved things around to let the other stuff fit

[subtle finch]

man, why do you all got gorilla in your aics

[small creek]

cus they have the sandleaf somewhere else

[subtle finch]

this one is also beautiful for sub-aic. 12/min bat. it saved the sandleaf, but it's using out of bounds stuff

[small creek]

yeesh

[small creek]

i like this one more, but it follows the same principle https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468745128951812096

[subtle finch]

im using that buck A for a modified stashless aic

[modern nova]

a couple sandleafs

[small creek]

Stashless is cool

but power's not much of a problem in v4

so i just let them stay lol

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1470642973594226864

This one's stashless

pretty cool

[subtle finch]

that design was also in reddit and had copies with small belt variations

[small creek]

I actually edited that to have less fac count

i love killing bridge

i cant find where my edit is tho

oh here #1468746019788554423 message

idk why its not showing up when is search it

[modern nova]

is 1 pump not enough for 3 refining units?

[subtle finch]

lately i find the nicest or smallest layout have very few bridges.
so if i start a build with many of them, i can tell i started on the wrong foot

[modern nova]

yea no

[small creek]

lol

i used to spam bridges cus they looked cool

one day fac count slapped me and now im a filthy fac count optimizer

[fervent lodge]

rq, how many depot sections in outpost?

[small creek]

around 8?

or 10

[subtle finch]

are you adding a limit?

[fervent lodge]

just wanna know what i'm working with

but it'd be good to add a warn tbh

i wonder when the stream is

i feel current state of wuling does not lend itself to space optimization

[subtle finch]

someone made an analysis of elastic good prices, and they concluded prices go higher as it approaches sunday
im keen to agree too, base on my records

[fervent lodge]

everything looks ugly

[small creek]

its true

but more accurately, the price range is greater

the prices go much lower/higher on the weekends

[subtle finch]

i think they only had 2 weeks of record though.
i had another theory that its like animal crossing turnip prices if you're familiar with that system

[small creek]

i am not familiar with it

[subtle finch]

you can get 4 type of patterns, large spike, small spike, decreasing and random

[small creek]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/148vboNtOmL5Nr74Akt23FX9txRKByzSTEbBQmtPxKoU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

this one is 3 weeks i believe, documenting both floor and peak
basically weekends have the lowest floor and highest peak

[subtle finch]

interesting

[verbal lintel]

buy on monday sell on sunday tech

[small creek]

mondays have average floor

not good for buying nor selling

gonna be forced to buy tho

[verbal lintel]

eventually itll average out if you have enough friends...
please increase friends cap

i want my min 500% every day

[glad flare]

Can someone help me figure out what I need for this, starting from top left all the way to bottom right?

[fervent lodge]

spent my evening making some bullshit

[subtle finch]

is that a blueprint you have or just a screenshot?

[subtle finch]

looks like an american subrubs

i tried to assemble my base using the bp import and idk why its not working

[mighty pulsar]

EFO01893036AE51IUI73

Is there a way to improve this blueprint???

[subtle finch]

an all in one maker huh

shouldnt be worth optimizing, just place more of it, you wont need it more than 3 days

[mighty pulsar]

Thanks

[shrewd knoll]

you made a mushroom, must have been high

[vale topaz]

if it work, it is fine.
problem is when you need to rework it to suit new patch economy.

[mighty pasture]

Now then...
Time to shift syringe into drinks and put my battery to bank?

There's only 1 outpost at wuling so far right?

[solid python]

Just leave it since they're the same price and focus on leveling up for more items to sell

[solemn mural]

Rebuilding my Vally IV hub base formax credit production, how do you guys utlized the corner of the hub depot? it seems i have to sacrifice some unloader space just to put stuff in that corner?

[vale topaz]

depends on everyone complexity, mine is very simple, so just put double steel part.

[mighty pasture]

Mine is quiet easy to do a bit tweaking so it's fine

The battery scares me...
It just went from 1k to 4k from 2 bank

Time to clean up all my originiun

[upper fiber]

don't waste too many bat, just put 1

[mighty pasture]

I have good output on my bat probably fine with 2

[upper fiber]

why use 2 when you only using less than 1.5k

[mighty pasture]

Cause I'll be putting more stuff in

Later

4/minute yield

[hoary crag]

I put a modified version of my HC battery line that makes use of the corner

[solemn mural]

im assuming its better to have some of the raw resources for HC batteries to be produced off site?

it seems to be taking up A LOT of space to make 3 lines at the hub base

[pulsar willow]

I've made 3 lines of buck capsules and 2 lines of batteries on the main AIC site

[pulsar cypress]

Me just make a simple compact med B or C type with L shape unloader/loader.
To snuck into the corner..

[hoary crag]

depends on how much you want to produce off-site

in my case it's only limited to the planter loops

[solid python]

I made 3 HC Valley batteries in the Hub and Buck Capsule A+Canned Citrome C in each of the outposts.

[pulsar willow]

bet you still have a lot of space in your main AIC area

[solid python]

Outposts are jam packed, but the Hub has space for me to make other random stuff.

[hoary crag]

explosives when

[solid python]

Already maxed

[pulsar willow]

I wanted to make 1 battery + 1 buck capsule production in my outposts, but couldn't fit them both in there 🙁

[hoary crag]

yeah

[young igloo]

yee

[hoary crag]

both would exhaust depot space

for me I have all my plant loops and HC battery production in core

[young igloo]

fuyu quick question, do u prefer wuling bus or v4 bus

[hoary crag]

then buck As on outposts

[pulsar willow]

if only we had a bit more space in our valley IV outposts, like we have in Wuling

[hoary crag]

is that even a question lmao

[young igloo]

yeah mb

[solid python]

Wuling bus can be made into Valley IV bus if you wanted

[hoary crag]

the question is, would you?

[solid python]

I don't even use all of the buses

[hoary crag]

I mean, most of my depot bus sections are unused lmao

[iron stratus]

how many tiles bigger is the wuling pac than the v4 pac

[hoary crag]

and just sit there as part of the whole aesthetic

[pulsar willow]

that's an interesting idea. I wouldn't have enough output ports, probably, if I would have made it the valley 4 way

[solid python]

My main AICs is a bunch of empty space, just the way I like it.

[hoary crag]

V4 is 70x70, Wuling is 80x80

[iron stratus]

a lot closer than i though

[hoary crag]

^^^ depot bus is outside V4's grid, while wuling depot has to share the space

[pulsar willow]

I think the fact that we can make some liquid production outside the grid compensates pretty well too

[iron stratus]

yep

[pulsar willow]

what is that stash grid lol

[iron stratus]

meds

[young igloo]

if i wouldnt hit the facking building limit fack

[hoary crag]

1.2 prep stash

south and north stash line has LC batteries, west line has SC batteries

[sterile stratus]

i wish

[hoary crag]

sub-pac 1.2 prep stash

currently filling first half with syringe C, the other half will be filled with jincao drinks

[young igloo]

meal preping

[knotty egret]

Hear me out…

[pulsar willow]

I really don't think that we will need that much stuff

[hoary crag]

scenic pov when?

[hoary crag]

who knows?

[solid python]

New outpost will require some stuff

[knotty egret]

Now, i know my fellow endmins may be wondering what the fuck is wrong with me. The answer is a multitude of things

[young igloo]

didnt have the specific pole

[pulsar willow]

we will overproduce as always 😄

[young igloo]

mind sharing?

[hoary crag]

u on asia?

[young igloo]

yeah

[hoary crag]

send id

lemme log in rq

[knotty egret]

How are u able to get such big pictures

[hoary crag]

take multiple screenshots then mash them all together

[young igloo]

scrshot each section and a bit paint magic

[knotty egret]

Ohhh

Because my screenshots end ip looking just as horrid as my factory itself

[hoary crag]

@young igloo id

[young igloo]

4421961260

[hoary crag]

added

[young igloo]

acceptted

2d in a row

[hoary crag]

nice

[pulsar cypress]

Cheating.. Me only get the full price one.. T^T)

The -95% always arsenal ticket..

[hoary crag]

still arsenal ticket

mine's just outright trash lmao

[sterile stratus]

so i was rebuilding my wuling aic, should i grind yazhen or any else plants for the carbon for xiranite

[hoary crag]

sandleaf for grinding
yazhen or jincao for carbon

[sterile stratus]

the water-based plants?

[hoary crag]

yup

unlike valley 4 plants

wuling plants give you 2 carbon when refined

letting you remove 3 planting units and a seed picking unit

[sterile stratus]

oh yeah i see

[pulsar cypress]

And save spaces..

[hoary crag]

I wonder if we could make more 6 forge designs lol

I gave up on the 8 forge

couldn't get any to look good

[pulsar cypress]

8 only possible in main aic..

[hoary crag]

8 is possible in sub-pac only if you move the planters off-site

so far I only have mine as well as my modified version of hikarin's

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Eliminate the planter make it possible..

Right one seems better coz pac at corner easier.. XD

[hoary crag]

tho I might adjust that a bit as well to make space for a zipline

lol

[pulsar cypress]

Me lazy to remake mine coz build em directly in game..

[hoary crag]

if it's going to be an aic area I visit a lot, then a zipline next to the pac is a must

[pulsar cypress]

At least it have a highway to go across in the middle..
Plus my name doodle in it..
XD

[hoary crag]

lmao

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)b
Looks neat enough for my dumb brain design..

The pond locations at corner is so ugly, can't make a nice line of pump..
T^T)

Its annoyed me to look at..

[hoary crag]

lol

imagine if the new subpac would have like a body of water surrounding it

so you could pull water from like most sides

[sterile stratus]

idk if anyone met the same problem
i moved the depot bus port, and then chose the port unloader to stash it

and then the game just restart

[hoary crag]

#tech-support is downstairs my friend

[sterile stratus]

like it froze on the stash screen for a bit and boom

[pulsar cypress]

[sterile stratus]

no, i just restart the game not much problem

still funny

btw do 1 forge need 1 sandleaf powder/s

[hoary crag]

nope

[pulsar cypress]

Remove the port kinda like you unplugged electric cable that supply your whole house tools..

All suddenly shut down.. Create a high lag..
Ig..

[hoary crag]

but a xiranite line needs 2

[sterile stratus]

2/s?

ok

[hoary crag]

one for each grinder

[hoary crag]

60/min to be exact

[pulsar cypress]

1 forge use 2 grinder, each grinder need 1 sandleaf powder..

[sterile stratus]

isn't 60/min=1/s...

[hoary crag]

yup

but facilities run at 0.5/s

so one belt, one facility, one unloader, etc, runs at 30/min

exception are pumps (1/s) and pipes (2/s)

[young igloo]

ok have one

[sterile stratus]

i need another grinding line right?

temporary placement

[hoary crag]

yup

[sterile stratus]

i was thinking how i can do this with least space 🥀

[hoary crag]

2nd sandleaf powder output goes to the 2nd grinding unit

the 3rd one goes to our favorite facility: ||the protocol stash||

[young igloo]

no not the stash

[hoary crag]

[light jacinth]

I feel like I should upgrade my space soon ...

[young igloo]

yes

[hoary crag]

yes (2)

[young igloo]

actually just upgrade all of it

id rcm the rabbit first -> the shipping -> the size

[hoary crag]

@young igloo ngl we know who the true stash hater is in this channel

[light jacinth]

I just unlocked the upgrades today and don't have the tickets lol. I am dreading rebuilding all my factories once I've got the extra space

[hoary crag]

but have we seen their factory yet?

[young igloo]

theres must be at least one

at least in v4

no stash is possible in wuling ig?

[pulsar cypress]

Make it produce maximum output..
1 plant make 2 shredding input for example..

1 shredding carbon can supply 2 output, un yours it only giving 1 output belt..

1 shredding sandleaf can supply 3 output (can supply for up to 3 grinder)
Just read the recipe and maximize the output results..

[hoary crag]

currently combing thru their factory images

[sterile stratus]

should i just separate sandleaf powder from the xiranite line

[hoary crag]

I swear if I find even one wuling stash it's gonna be so hilarious

there it is

[pulsar cypress]

U can place the sandleaf plantation set beside the xiranite line.
So the output can go directly to grinder.

[velvet marsh]

is it good to have 6k xiranite in the reserves while using these blueprints?

[hoary crag]

a fully self sufficient xiranite line can be made

as long as you fit the powder directly to the grinding units, you're good

[sterile stratus]

yea...

[velvet marsh]

i've just been wondering because I like to keep a lot of xiranite pylons/relays handy in case something needs to be wired up

[hoary crag]

up to you

[sterile stratus]

as long as it's symmetric i'm good

[hoary crag]

6k is already more than enough if only referring to facilities

[sterile stratus]

why tf grinding sandleaf gives 3 powder

[velvet marsh]

it's 6.8k reserve

[hoary crag]

I mean... why not?

just put the third one in the beloved stash

[sterile stratus]

4 or 2 should be nice 🥀

[hidden temple]

clue is in the name

[hoary crag]

and then use it for depot deliveries

[sterile stratus]

makes sense

[pulsar cypress]

Its just mean, more useable parts of the plants than other types..
So more output..

[velvet marsh]

just wondering bc what if hypergryph suddenly decides "this thing requires 40 xiranite per facility and it produces new red component"

[hoary crag]

it's not like you're gonna have to build a hundred of it

[sterile stratus]

nvm i should stop complaining and keep building

[hoary crag]

lol

have fun

I'll be back to drawing ig

[sterile stratus]

oh nice

[velvet marsh]

yea ok

[sterile stratus]

am i good

[small creek]

2 stashes?

[sterile stratus]

uhh

[small creek]

me when i have saving power

[sterile stratus]

🥀

[hoary crag]

yes

[hoary crag]

you need to shred the carbon into carbon powder first

wuling planter -> refining unit -> shredding unit -> grinding unit

[sterile stratus]

endmin should be able to connect conduits faster smh

[hoary crag]

and since wuling plants give 2 carbon

one wuling plant refinery can feed 2 shredding units

both of which then feed their respective grinding units

[sterile stratus]

oh yeahhh more space to grind the carbon blocks

oh goD

life is so cruel

[pulsar cypress]

Dont forget look for space to place the electric pylons.. XD

[upper fiber]

need aic powered subpac

screw those pylons

[sterile stratus]

mhm...

i guess i have to make 2 forges each or it will NOT symmetric