aic-factory

[fervent lodge]

bc convergers are always seeing averaged (non-converged interval) slice

totals are gud

re-save and share your base so the totals update with new logic

[subtle finch]

it's still not live on my side

[real crescent]

send you both the AIC mountains

[fervent lodge]

awesome, thanks

[fervent lodge]

ctrl+shift+r

[real crescent]

anything else you are interested in oob zip wise?

[fervent lodge]

just these, for overhead view

the rest are kinda less important to me

awsome

[real crescent]

ye these two make for really cool factory pics

[subtle finch]

nice
sidebar gain shows 5.5, but the correct figure is 5.75

yeah it should be 5.75 according to the input

[fervent lodge]

maybe i'll tweak the window a bit more

240 ticks is not enough to get a good read on the interval of arrival of your sparse components and so on

my think is that it won't actually be able to get a good read at all because the successive convergers make the time of arrival wobble slightly

[subtle finch]

also it knows there's an input rate of 21/min dense ori in depot, and im outputting it at 5/min rate, so there's a surplus of 16/min that it knows

[fervent lodge]

you'd need to everage the entire run

[subtle finch]

but it can't make the connection that 21/min should drop to 5/min because the depot has no limit?

[fervent lodge]

well ya, it only runs for like what

17~ ish ingame minutes?

[subtle finch]

maybe you make a skip logic if depot is heading towards positive?

[fervent lodge]

will rest for a bit and then add an overflow toggle to cap specific items

nah i prefer it'd be checkboxes

"cap this item"

[subtle finch]

as long as the input rate would follow the output rate, im happy

also, mine is not that bad , i know others that are running at 0.375/min comp or lower

[fervent lodge]

yeah.....

how long does ctrl click take for you

to gather full stats

[subtle finch]

like 1.5sec

[fervent lodge]

bruh...

[subtle finch]

nvm its less than a sec

[fervent lodge]

still a bit too long for a full solve, will try to see how i can improve perf ig

evil dogslow JS

[subtle finch]

i have 200 tabs open tho

[fervent lodge]

also did this now

[fervent lodge]

that's ram not cpu

[subtle finch]

oh about the grass, camera mode lets you hide facilities

[fervent lodge]

ik, but that grass I got is pretty good

just need to re-do it again in photoshop with the cicada principle thing

that requires quite a lot of fiddling

i really like your component/tea module, gonna tack it onto my base

that cuprum split-out produces some insane graphs ngl

[mortal plinth]

i might legit get blueprints for my factory....

not because i got skill issue, but because game keeps crashing when i try to use bulk action

im mildly annoyed

[subtle finch]

it's tied to the timing of the components after all lol

[fervent lodge]

ok, simply increased window size and it did the trick

[fervent lodge]

OH RIGHT

that's a mood yeah

happens to me every so often

sometimes just pressing "M"

and it dead

[mortal plinth]

yeah idk why it happens, before i didnt have this issue at all

[subtle finch]

ony happened to me once so far

[mortal plinth]

its just annoying....

to be fair, i had an issue crashing in another game too....but i loaded an older save and it was fixed so i dont think it had anything to do with why endfield crashes

[subtle finch]

@fervent lodge lol that converger prio i just mentioned killed my base.
i guess you can't even trust what you placed last, it can change when going offline

[river wadi]

do i need 2 xiranite production lines to sustain production of cuprium parts

[bright zodiac]

1 to 1 ratio to cuprium, final product is 0.5 xircon

[subtle finch]

wait, you don't need xiranite to make cuprium parts , i thought you meant components

[river wadi]

wait yea i meant components

[subtle finch]

if you want it to output at a 6/min rate, then yes

having that on for 2 days straight should serve you for 1 month of artificing and gears, don't overdo it

[bright zodiac]

i was thinking base refined cuprium, its related to xiranite and will be used for xircon

then the cuprium byproduct is for parts and able to use for component, depends on same ratio of xiranite needed

[river wadi]

what is ferrium used for in wuling

[subtle finch]

sc batteries and c grade meds

[winged oriole]

HC Valley batteries

[atomic swan]

Technically, this IS correct – you just need to turn the Ferrium into Steel.

[uneven aspen]

got reactor taxed again 😭

[pulsar cypress]

Good citizens..

[winged oriole]

I have a reactor whose job is to make 1 xircon effluent every 96 seconds because we can't have nice things

[viscid plover]

[river wadi]

is a 0.8% more efficient that important

[hidden temple]

wait to sell for 5.4k and that'd be 980%

[solid python]

I haven't been selling any goods since I have enough stocks

[hidden temple]

ye pointless on v4 at least
but won't be able to afford the weekly 80 catalysts if you either don't do stocks or don't do all 4 wuling daily deliveries

[upper fiber]

next week gonna stop buying the last catalyst, need to stock up wuling bills for update

[hidden temple]

[fallen arch]

rate my early game factory ;-; (i suck at factory games and i did this blind)

i messed up alot which is why there's belts longer than they need to be, but it works... mostly

[hidden temple]

you're producing the final products at least, but it's not at full efficiency
check the ratios of the product's formula and feed the facility the right amount of inputs

for example producing carbon cubes want two carbon powder per 1 sandleaf powder, so the grinder should be receiving 3 belts to spit out 1 carbon cube at full efficiency

[fallen arch]

Ohhh i see i see, i'll hop back on and fix that now

[hidden temple]

shredding carbon also produces 2 carbon dust, so you can just add another belt out this shredder for the grinder to receive the 2 carbon dust it wants
you can see this in the formula as well so always check that out

[fallen arch]

Got it

Like this?

Or just 1 belt on the top most grinding unit

since the shredder only produces 1 originium dust

[hidden temple]

just 1 belt for the crushed ori yeah

[fallen arch]

kk

[hidden temple]

so you're gonna need another shredder from another source of ori if you wanna give that grinder 2 belts of ori dust

[fallen arch]

Unfortunately i'm not mining enough originium to keep up with that, i really don't wanna run more cables to infinity and beyond tonight

[void owl]

???

[iron spoke]

wuling is wireless tho

[hidden temple]

could put this on hold til you rig up all the mining nodes

[fallen arch]

I don't like placing pylons for mutliple kilometers

Idea: wireless power transmitters with infinite range :3

(half joking)

The amount of towers you have to place directly in the middle of paths kinda upsets me, it makes the environment look clunky

[void owl]

why am i getting fill rate too low even whem my taks are full?

[ruby sorrel]

that's not what it says though

[upper fiber]

.read

[void owl]

WHY CAN I ONLY PLACE 1 FOTS?!

[iron spoke]

did you research these?

[vale topaz]

once you unlocked hydro mining, you will run pipes on those mining sites.

[fallen arch]

But i gotta power the pumps

[flat rain]

is wulin still the latest region?

[vale topaz]

yep, pipes and electricity.
your electrical pole cannot reach water source ? put more electrical poles

[flat rain]

wish i could access my BPs atm

lost my PC so im building a new one

a 🥷 stole it

[hoary crag]

[knotty egret]

Made smth disgusting

[hoary crag]

finally ready for 1.2 😭

can confirm that it's outright impossible to put 8 forges in the sub-pac

even a good looking 6 forge setup took me hours

I hate how I'm forced to use conduits as well but fuck it ig

[vale topaz]

seriously ? sorry for your lose. : /
hope your important data are all secured

[hoary crag]

actually wait

[vale topaz]

can, but if you throw away the seed plant to other place

[hoary crag]

would be replaced by depot facilities

plus the goal here is to make a fully self-sufficient line lol

[vale topaz]

do not want headache on piping x_X

[hoary crag]

let's goooo no conduits

fuck conduits

[vale topaz]

but what if the final amount of forge is 8 ?

[spark hedge]

V1.2 have 6 forge?

[vale topaz]

if it works, it shall fit

[knotty egret]

Works better than my previous stuff haha

[spark hedge]

Now time to build blueprint 3 forge with 2 sandleaf

[hoary crag]

no one knows yet, but we're likely gonna have at least 6 at the current rate

current speculations are either 6 (2 -> 4 -> 6) or 8 (2 -> 4 -> 8)

[hidden temple]

surprise, it's 2->4->5

[hoary crag]

😭

[vale topaz]

with large amount of sandleaf required for battery, wonder if one day there will be a battery recipe with pure sandleaf.......

[upper fiber]

no more sandleaf in 1.2

[hoary crag]

our lord and savior, HC Sandleaf Batteries

[vale topaz]

sandleaf god is omnipresence !!!!!

[hoary crag]

Packaging Unit

20 Sandleaf Powder
10 Sandleaf

[knotty egret]

sandleaf is tasty.. the poweder yummy

sorry i’m eeally sleepy

[hoary crag]

I should probably draw one lmao

[vale topaz]

one day, aic for criminal organization theme

[hoary crag]

just for the fun of it

maybe later cuz I'm tired af finishing that forge setup

[flat rain]

Cloud services

[outer basin]

Yellow liquid is probably Liquid Sandleaf

[vale topaz]

[hoary crag]

[vale topaz]

the mystery solved !!!!

[hoary crag]

[outer basin]

Then we package it into Syringes so we can inject Sandleaf directly into our bloodstream

[hoary crag]

they should rename this channel 'the church of sandleaf'

[vale topaz]

sandleaf stimpack.... hmm

[outer basin]

Sandleaf cures Blight exposure

[vale topaz]

and the channel patron / follower should be called as sandleaf mechanicus

[hoary crag]

lmao

For The Sandleaf

[hidden temple]

the sandleaf sect

praise be the gilded leaf, whose golden seed seeps into root and vein

by its radiance we are chosen, by its shredding we are made pure

[vale topaz]

m(. .)m bow to sandleaf throne

[hidden temple]

we go forth as bearers of the sacred seed, hands anointed with dust and sun

where we tread, the region shall yield. where we kneel, talos-II will remember

[vale topaz]

"fascinating, all the life on this planet rooted from sandleaf DNA.
not only the life, but also the environment.
everything contain sandleaf protein which contain sandleaf DNA.
from rocks, trees, animals, soil, even the minerals, almost like this whole planet is a giant sandleaf."

sandleaf magos biologist research report.

[fervent lodge]

wait that actually also manifests the evil reactor eating bug?

can you send i'm curious to investigate why this behavior emerges

[uneven aspen]

top reactor is 100%
bottom reactor is 67%.

when only connecting 1 to the xircon reactor the amount is normal

when connecting both to the xircon reactor separately the tax happens.

when connecting both via pipe converger to xircon reactor the tax happens.

[fervent lodge]

i'm impressed that this apparently manifested in the same way as ingame

gonna try to see where it's lost

[uneven aspen]

100% xiranite effu reactor to 1 xircon reactor seems off

the 67% one to a separate one seems to display the right amount

[wispy grove]

Is there an app on playstore for that or nah?

[uneven aspen]

it's https://enkad.enka.network/

[wispy grove]

No no i mean an app

Im on my phone rn

[uneven aspen]

last time i try on mobile it said no mobile controls so i dont think so

its getting updated constantly though so no idea.

[wispy grove]

Sad

[slate plume]

i need more wuling $ like wtf

why is it so limited to sell to 1 outpost only

[uneven aspen]

another random lost is this.

first of all this highlighted belt should be 10/m xiranite to the cuprium gearing. But it's displaying 15/m xiranite for the belt.

when i mess around so it's 10/m xiranite, the strange thing is the syrange A changes from 4.5 to 5/m

[fervent lodge]

oh it's that particular limiter

it's belt order dependent

try placing the reverse belt last

just like, wiggle it

convergers are so damn weird man

[uneven aspen]

but why would messing with xiranite mess with the syringe A yield when they are not connected

[fervent lodge]

idk, send factory will poke at it

[uneven aspen]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=u8r9n4h7z3b1a8

[fervent lodge]

actual quantum mechanics

[fervent spoke]

disconnect plants from the forge line and you sure can fit 8, but thats probably not what you want

[fervent lodge]

btw, the wings on 5/m limiter should be splitters for it to solve correctly

[snow obsidian]

hey guys is there a link for SC wuling batt? cant find one to copy paste on google (i suck at this lol)

[fervent lodge]

like this ```
CAQiuAEIAxIhCAEQIRgUIAsyFwoNEP///////////wEYAQoACgQQAxgCEhgIARAhGBMgDjIOCgQQARgBCgAKBAgBGAISCxAiGBQgDioDCLQBEiEIARAhGBUgDjIXCgQQARgBCgAKDQj///////////8BGAISCxAjGBMgDyoDCI4CEgsQIxgUIA8qAwi0ARIKECMYFSAPKgIIWhIhCAEQIRgUIBAyFwoNEP///////////wEYAQoACgQQAhgC

[fervent lodge]

you can check in #1461542035617091681

i'd send mine but it's too mosaicy

[uneven aspen]

yeah that works thanks.

also liked how the protocol stash also works as a splitter properly

[hoary crag]

yeah since the goal is to have independent, fully self-sufficient lines

[fervent lodge]

yeah had to do special workaround for it

before i did, if you had a stash in your plan anywhere and you connected its output

it shifted all liquid IDs in pipes on the plan

💀

overflowed mario powerup state type thing

[final ravine]

is this ok for a newbie factory?

[fervent lodge]

Oh. By regulating xiranite you're changing how much Cuprium Part is consumed between depots globally

via these lines

so if you pull too much it ends up being not enough for the yazhen

2 sources of parts in, 3 belts of parts out

[fervent lodge]

well it's working almost at full, so gj
batteries might need more supply of ingredients tho

[fervent lodge]

that said, i don't recommend mixing two item types into one stash
when one fills the depot to max, the other will stop going into depot

[blazing geyser]

Will you be able to get access to more forge of the sky by playing the story? Or do you get it in some other way?

[fervent lodge]

more than...?

[blazing geyser]

More than 1 per region

[fervent lodge]

it's an AIC Plan upgrade

[blazing geyser]

Oh really? I didnt know

[fervent lodge]

bottom right

[fervent lodge]

^

[final ravine]

oh ok

[grand spruce]

wanna see something cursed

[small creek]

eh

[smoky eagle]

HUHH

why so far apart

[grand spruce]

Lol

its so jank i love it

[smoky eagle]

as long as it works, endmin

[grand spruce]

lol

[smoky eagle]

wait there's a broken production line?

[grand spruce]

yeah i fixed it

[smoky eagle]

phantom products going in the depot

ok ok

[grand spruce]

that and i had flower dust going into the forge lol

ill let this be for now and ill find some blueprints later lol

[pulsar cypress]

[ruby sorrel]

almost tileable but having to output breaks it

[pulsar cypress]

6 forger..

[winged oriole]

What if 4 forge but there's a completely new facility that makes a new thing out of nothing

[dreamy jungle]

Join the club

[pulsar cypress]

Is that using enka?

[dreamy jungle]

Yo

[pulsar cypress]

2+2 forger at top right..
Just need to add another 2 below it..
*runs..

[dreamy jungle]

Oh trying to put everything in Main AIC? Or you have other plans for outpost?

[pulsar cypress]

AIC only..

2 SC batt plant on the left
Med A&C set at middle bottom
Already max output

[dreamy jungle]

Ah yeah, I mean in the future lol

[pulsar cypress]

Still enough space to add another 2 forge & 1 SC batt plant there.
If there's upgrade.

[ruby sorrel]

future's gotta split up for me if they keep making these mega recipes

[pulsar cypress]

Depending on what kind of bp they dump later..

Maybe need to move all forger to sub..
Make it forger special spot..

At least batt and meds need to be together coz the sewage supply.

[ruby sorrel]

yeah a forge outpost makes the most sense rn, you can always run sewage pipes between maps

[pulsar cypress]

Careful for sewage leak when piping between maps..

XD

[ruby sorrel]

imagine losing all the sewage to some sort of landbreaker attack

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Imagine the dev make lb can attack facilities outside factory area..

You need to keep checking and replacing broken pipes..

[dreamy jungle]

Oh hell no

[pulsar cypress]

[distant hamlet]

Guys, I need help. I can't figure out how to even out my flow of material inputs, I wanted to make a power plant

This is what I currently have set up, but I have no idea how to spread the flow of 15 powder to be equal to 10 parts

[ruby sorrel]

uh, do we start with what you think you need to do, or just skip to what you need to do

[distant hamlet]

Well no need to sugarcoat it, I just wanna know what I gotta do

Because I am lost and stuck with the output system

And I want efficiency

[ruby sorrel]

okay so here's the formula, you need 2 belts of ferrium parts and 3 belts of originium powder, which equates to 2 belts of ferrium ore and 3 belts of originium ore

it looks like you understand how to make those so just shuffle things around a little and you're good to go

[distant hamlet]

So I just gotta remove 1 belt of powder then>

[ruby sorrel]

a full belt, originium shreds 1:1 so you don't need 3 output belts that just gives you 3 1/3 belts

[halcyon bay]

how many mining rigs can one fluid pump supply without coughing

[ruby sorrel]

3 high 6 low or some combination

[halcyon bay]

high drains more?

[ruby sorrel]

high runs faster so you need to give it more water

[distant hamlet]

So like this, but instead of the bull outloader belt kept there, I should just keep the shredder one>

[small creek]

yea but just do 1 pump per 3 spots unless u wanna redo them in the future when we get higher purity

also hi mia 👋

[ruby sorrel]

no each originium shredder only outputs 1 belt, you're splitting it into 3

[vale topaz]

under impression you are still exploring v4 ?
with some patience and further story, you can safely remove dependency on splitter spaghetti since v4 minerals are so plenty.
also rather separating into 2 packaging unit, recommend to just use 1.
the battery consumption alone is slower ( 1 unit / 40 sec ) then what you can make ( 1 unit / 10 sec )

[distant hamlet]

Oh so thats what you meant by full belt

[distant hamlet]

That I am, I wanted to make bundles of batteries to trade for outposts tho

[small creek]

i think merci's got this so ill just send this if u wanna study an "optimized" version
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465162121045348392

[vale topaz]

just provide 1 fluid pump per 3 mining node.
in case, at the future those low quality upgraded into high quality and you don't need to backtrack.

[ruby sorrel]

just set it up so you only have to turn on an extra pump if purity goes up

[halcyon bay]

for starters i change ferriums to hydro coz mk2 took too much energy each

[ruby sorrel]

yeah that's the most impactful change

the originium is trickier and basically not worth it if you don't run water between 2 spots

[vale topaz]

it's a trade off, lower energy usage but increase protocol usage.

[ruby sorrel]

tbh the protocol usage is acceptable without conduits

[vale topaz]

i hate un curve able pipe ._.
too many zig zag

[ruby sorrel]

it entertains me to see the giant mess of pipes while zipping around for deliveries

[vale topaz]

yes, tidiness and procedure are my curse ._.

[small creek]

protocol usage isnt even my problem, its fac count

so doing raw pipes is actually worse for me

[ruby sorrel]

how do you have so many pipes that it matters

[small creek]

no i mean

how many splitters does it take

to cover the same distance as 2 conduits

[ruby sorrel]

2 or 3

[small creek]

if its >2, then pipes are cooked for me

if its = 2, then im just gonna use conduit for ease of use

[ruby sorrel]

you have that many pipe splitters around?

[small creek]

If i didnt use conduits, i probably would

[fair flicker]

guys any refernce fopr max wuling production any codes or anything

[small creek]

theres a lot in #1461542035617091681

[fair flicker]

TRIED ONE AND IS BROKEN

[small creek]

maybe u didnt apply it correctly?

common causes of error include incorrect piping and plant input

[fair flicker]

I DID IT WAS BROKEN THEY RESENT THE BLUEPRINT AGAIN AFTER INFORMING BUT IST NOT SPECIFIED ITS CONFUISNG NOW

[fair flicker]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472

[small creek]

ehhh... not to put em down but Usagi's work isnt exactly the best

I used one of theirs before and it wasnt even running at max efficiency

[fair flicker]

so whom should i follow then

any links

[small creek]

There are a lot of credible blueprint makers

[fair flicker]

just suggets one u are using and is running without any issues

[upper fiber]

the blueprint here sucks, better go to talospioneer

[small creek]

well, im using my own 😆

[fair flicker]

...

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1485484253687840838

It's messy but if u get through the installation process and understand the additional instructions, the payoff is worth it

[distant hamlet]

I made an even bigger sphaghetti but it works, and is self sufficient for now

[small creek]

otherwise theres theacc, arflanyr, hikarin, net, leander, kyostinv, etc etc

[upper fiber]

hc bat not available yet?

[fair flicker]

i just need something easy to install lasdt time doing usagi one took 3-4 hours

😭

[ruby sorrel]

could've just made one from scratch at that point

[subtle finch]

it switched from black to orange when i woke up and relogged

[small creek]

ease of use: kyostinv
compact: theacc, leander
ease of installation: kyostinv, theacc, hikarin
maximum profit (minimum power): hikarin, qyurii

arflanyr and net are good but i havent had a look personally

[vale topaz]

guess, i'll make a post about my blue print stuff at blueprint section too.

[fair flicker]

how long will it take to set up your blueptint maybe i am blind i can just se main pc images not sub pac in ur forum

[small creek]

there was a time i was tempted to make my own megapost like leander has, but i didnt want to have to maintain it every time i make a new bp lol

[subtle finch]

i guess more research needs to be done, my current theory is backside converger will take last prio from a relogged state

[small creek]

I mean the setup is really easy
what takes long is understanding what each part does (how much water/sewage it takes, what plants for each seeder, etc)

[fair flicker]

my factpry is dead sincxe three weeks lol i just need something to run at this point

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I should think about making something that's shareable next patch

[small creek]

honestly atp id recommend hikarin's more cus its just 50 more power than mine, but WAY easier to install

[fair flicker]

link pls

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1488992471722754088

[small creek]

is this alternator but for belts

[subtle finch]

alternator is just converger and belts, once you introduce a splitter, its priority lane
my first discovery is last placed side takes last priority, then i discovered that can change upon going offline

[small creek]

idk what that means but its all just orange going in now

[subtle finch]

yeah, i placed orange splitters last when i was online, so originally it was black going in

if i placed the black last, then orange would be going in

[small creek]

youre not trying to alternate orange-black?

[subtle finch]

no

[small creek]

[distant hamlet]

Please answer me this, what does one full belt imply? An incrament of 1 second?

[subtle finch]

im just looking for the side of converger that it actually prioritize when going offline, so the behavior stays the same

these convergers aint loyal smh

[distant hamlet]

For example for things such as this, should I view it as that I need two full belts of ferrium for one unit of parts, for it to work nicely?

[small creek]

1 belt moves 0.5 items per second
Many facilities produce 1 item every 2 seconds, which when simplified is also 0.5 items/second

Meanwhile some facilities, usually those producing end products such as meds and batteries, take 10 seconds to produce 1 item

For example, SCV batteries require 10 ferrium parts and 15 originium dust every 10 seconds

1 belt = 0.5 items/second
How many items in 10 seconds?
0.5x10 = 5, so 5 items/10 seconds
So you need 2 belts of ferrium parts, and 3 belts of originium dust

[distant hamlet]

THANK YOU Okay that just made everything so much simpler about how flow works

So this is now viable

[ruby sorrel]

bottles are 2:1 though

[small creek]

Bottles take 2 ferrium per 2 seconds

2:1 yes

[distant hamlet]

Well thats a shame

No more ports here

[small creek]

Theres always the depot

[distant hamlet]

Gotta make some batteries to make money to get the depot

[small creek]

oh thats rough

just matter of time tho

[distant hamlet]

It's alright, I love this factory gameplay and I wanna get used to the flow of things, so I can make efficient and pretty systems

[upper fiber]

hehe that's before 1.2

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[upper fiber]

1.2 likely a headache for newbies

[wispy grove]

[distant hamlet]

What is 1.2

[upper fiber]

update in 2 weeks

[distant hamlet]

I already have a headache since I'm sick

[distant hamlet]

What it do

[ruby sorrel]

they really need to put the actual values in the product chain view

[upper fiber]

add new stuff to build

[ruby sorrel]

it's such a pain going through every formula every time

[distant hamlet]

wWOO

Since I am sick I have time to kill and I kill time by playing this game since it's fun so

[upper fiber]

too bad the factory is locked by main quest

[distant hamlet]

Hopefully I'll have enough creds to expand most outposts and make actual connected systems instead of seperating production to each outpost

[distant hamlet]

Wdym

[upper fiber]

you still in valley iv right

[distant hamlet]

I believe so, yes

I just entered lodespring as a new zone ?

[upper fiber]

the precious stuff right now are mostly on wuling

[distant hamlet]

I have three days, I'll get there eventually

Too bad I like exploring a bit too much

[upper fiber]

you need to put mining rigs anyway

[distant hamlet]

This game was made for me
Puzzles, exploration, factory gameplay

Just wish the characters had mobility abilities for explorations so I didn't have to use the static ziplines every time

Thanks for the help lads :)

[small creek]

[cyan forge]

hmmm excessive?

190 protocol stash to extra storage

[small creek]

a good factory has no stashes

burn it down

[cyan forge]

this is dead stashes, they don't eat power

my main factory is sumwhere else

hmm

[dreamy jungle]

I bet Tangtang is proud

[cyan forge]

190 x 300, i have like.... 57k extra storage

ok this might be too excessive

[upper fiber]

57k is less than 58k, so soso

[ruby sorrel]

accidentally nuke it all with full depot

[cyan forge]

it's moreso i still wanna sell em too

am gonne just cut the route to 70 stashes for now i guess

should be plenty

[sonic summit]

not manual trasfer to valley instead?

[real crescent]

i really hope a future update will remove this invisible wall and give me a full v4 loop

its possible to get around it in theory, but it takes like half your pp zips

[subtle finch]

https://x.com/i/status/2039720003482874064

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new tech

[crude nebula]

So it's feedback time in-game... Time to request a dung collector 9K for ferts

[subtle finch]

experiment #2, it changed upon going offline again, this time no matter which side of converger

[crude nebula]

my theory is its prioritize on the item ID ? is there a way in-game to check about this?

[subtle finch]

that is my current guess too

i'll keep on testing

[vale topaz]

another 4k exp before my account reach lvl 60

[crude nebula]

or the item "value" like the one shown in the meta transfer list or if your depot storage is full of a type of item (the 80k items) as shown in the daily good's job

[subtle finch]

id go mad if it just wants to flip the state before you went offline

[crude nebula]

its Andre trolling you before you logged out

[silent violet]

what is this experiment trying to find out?

[crude nebula]

why the item won't get mixed

[upper fiber]

maybe proving the non existence 'priority flow'

[subtle finch]

first, i learned last placed side of converger takes last prio, now i learned going offline can forget that state
currently, i just want to predict the state when going back online

[silent violet]

its probably just decided nondeterministically on load then no?

[subtle finch]

that's why im testing, then we'll know its limitations

[crude nebula]

imagine in the end you realized, it's just a random thing rather than a pre-code by the dev

[subtle finch]

cause this thing broke my base, and i want revenge

[silent violet]

found any pattern so far?

[crude nebula]

this is his latest one

its like he prepare a master's thesis from his undergraduate's

[silent violet]

id imagine its something like whichevers state is updated last gets priority and its hard to control which one is loaded last on fresh load

[subtle finch]

im leaning towards item id priority, my original setup was battery and dense ori.
i purposely set battery to high prio, but it keeps changing it to dense ori

surely its deterministic like top to bottom, left to right

[upper fiber]

tried swapped them yet

[subtle finch]

that's my current test so far, one set to orange prio, the rest to black

[upper fiber]

it would be funny if turned belt has faster movement

[crude nebula]

isn't it better if you set 3 input? so you can fully see on who's chosen once you login again?

[subtle finch]

i have limited depot bus space on that aic, but yeah, if there's no conclusion after, ill add more input and sample size

[upper fiber]

it is stash time

[hoary crag]

convergers are weird

@subtle finch btw the 6 forge setup is complete

2 versions, with and without conduits

made sure to have a bit of space next to sub-pac so I can put a zipline there lol

[dreamy jungle]

looks nice. now prepare for 8 forges

[hoary crag]

was thinking of doing it too

but that'd need a separate planting area

basically replace the plant loops with the facilities needed for the other 2 forges

[young igloo]

neat

[subtle finch]

ill put the planters offsite if they give us 8 forges, it's a good use for the two side of the bus, why are we building like we're still in v4

[hoary crag]

so a possible, lore-accurate solution would be to add the 8 forge setup in the new sub-pac assuming it's wuling-city controlled

and then put the planters in qingbo aic

to give soup the illusion that the aic's making food for them

[young igloo]

i think theres will be more out post tho we dont use that much space

[hoary crag]

if I'm not mistaken, dev log mentioned that 1.2 will have 2 new areas and a new sub-pac

[young igloo]

all in planter in tang clan

[young igloo]

is hc battery there too ?

[hoary crag]

no mention

tho they did show 2 new fluid facilites

one of which is the expanded reactor

[young igloo]

oh the new reactor, i saw them

if current reactor already able to process 2 formulas at once im expecting at least 3 formulas for its expanded version

[hoary crag]

based on how it looks, we're expecting like 8 to 9 slots

[pulsar steeple]

I wonder if i can get there and connect the ziplines

[pulsar cypress]

Me just finished my 6 forger setup also..
Middle empty just need to place the forgers..
*lazy to mirror, so just rotate it..

[young igloo]

yea or a new 4 input formula

[hoary crag]

we're still limited by it only having like the same pipe connections as the normal reactor tho

[subtle finch]

same fluid slots, just more slots for items

[ruby sorrel]

we'll have to throw all our batteries and meds into it to make super xircon water

[hoary crag]

you can use fluid planters to simulate forges

[young igloo]

they really need to add mirror function

[hoary crag]

same size, same pipe input location

[young igloo]

big mirror fan since 2014

[pulsar cypress]

Fluid planters?

[hoary crag]

planters on fluid mode

[young igloo]

jincao and yazhen

[pulsar cypress]

Oh.. Same design with forgers.. Yass..

Maybe later..

[ruby sorrel]

yeah mirroring chiral buildings makes things so much more convenient

[hoary crag]

fr

[hoary crag]

I also just finished mine a few hours ago lol

[pulsar cypress]

XD

[hoary crag]

I'm now contemplating on whether I should work on an 8-forge setup

[hoary crag]

@pulsar cypress

[young igloo]

owh right fluid related cant be mirrored

[pulsar cypress]

Lucky mine have sand planters at left and right, so the rotated at middle didn't really visible. The corner still same..

[young igloo]

since they fack up the input n out put

[blazing geyser]

Hey guys, im trying to make my first blueprint and I wanted to ask fof advice

[pulsar cypress]

Looks spacious, mine cramped at corner..
Wide space in middle.. XD

[pulsar cypress]

Sure..

[hoary crag]

had to so I can put a zipline there

imagine teleporting to the subpac and having to like fucking maze runner your way out

[pulsar cypress]

XD

Luckily me put the pac at corner, so no need..

[hoary crag]

I wonder how I'd go with the 8 forge setup

since I can't put the sub-pac in the middle cuz we only get one bus port in sub-pacs

I'll eat dinner rq ig then start working on it why not

[small creek]

wow stashless too

[blazing geyser]

Is there any way for you to make materials go in one conveyor belt? Having them go in one loader takes up so much space and idk how to deal with this issue

[sick basin]

Why are w egoing to 8 forges when 6 is max

[hoary crag]

had to cuz stashes won't fit anymore 😭

out of spite I will put stashes in the 8 forge setup

[small creek]

NO

NO STASHES

https://klipy.com/gifs/disney-incredibles-1

[hoary crag]

[blazing geyser]

I mean giving them individual loaders per material takes up space

[sick basin]

Use stashes, not depot loaders

I suppose

[ruby sorrel]

but stashes are 3x bigger

[hoary crag]

protocol stashes my beloved

[sick basin]

But also have 3x the inputs!

[small creek]

Hi babe

[ruby sorrel]

only if you're stashing the same thing

[sick basin]

Hello

[small creek]

I think 8 forges in 1 subpac is just straight up impossible

seeing this is what 6 looks like

[hoary crag]

it is if you move the planters offsite

[blazing geyser]

Oh yeah, i completely forgot that these existed

Thanks

[small creek]

okay hell nah

[hoary crag]

which is something I plan on working on after I eat my dinner

[ruby sorrel]

the bus is actually so fat though

[sick basin]

But we arent even getting 8 forges..🥹

[subtle finch]

ill move everything else except the 8 forges

[small creek]

One can dream

[subtle finch]

and they will each have protocol stash

[hoary crag]

the popular speculation is that we either 6 or 8 forges in 1.2

[small creek]

stop using protocol stash :Realmad:

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-predator-arnold-hi-hello-gif-9920452

[sick basin]

Its 6, it was shown long ago

[small creek]

waste of 3x3 space and 5 power

[hoary crag]

where

[small creek]

Uhhhhh i dont believe you

teehee

[ruby sorrel]

if it's 8 that just means we have to use more xiranite for batteries

[sick basin]

You are supposed to

[small creek]

Okay i believe you

[pulsar cypress]

[sick basin]

Trailers and pvs

In few scenes they pass over wuling aic
Theres 6 forges visible

[pulsar cypress]

8 forgersss.. = remake whole main aic..

[hoary crag]

reason I don't believe u is cuz if they already said how many forges we're getting in 1.2

[pulsar cypress]

Not enough space at sub..

[small creek]

8 forges = PEAK!!!!

[hoary crag]

it'd be common knowledge in this channel of all places lmao

[small creek]

What if they give us 7 forges js to fk wit us

[hoary crag]

6 or 7 forges

sorry

[small creek]

Okay thats enough

time to play icebreaker

[hoary crag]

now to think of it I haven't played it this season yet

[pulsar cypress]

*place the last 1 forge at the very corner of new sub-pac..
Pretend it didn't exist..

[hoary crag]

I'll play for an hour ig before working on the 8 forge setup

[bright zodiac]

that one forge that got bully, and cant join the other cool band together

[upper fiber]

cope bigger, 12 forge

[small creek]

Bro is thinking big

[pulsar cypress]

It will be exploited as part of gear plant..

[hoary crag]

12 forge would be insane 😭

[lusty violet]

unlimited

[pulsar cypress]

12 forge to cleanse whole wuling..

[analog elbow]

500 Protocol Stashes

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

I wanna talk about an insane pull but it's in ak and not endfield

😭

[small creek]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sight-anime

[analog elbow]

I'm back from the grave

Besten Fever + Flu + Headaches

[upper fiber]

covid26?

[small creek]

sounds like a suck

[analog elbow]

Covid Final Boss

[analog elbow]

Me stronger

[subtle finch]

okay hear me out

[small creek]

Not strong enough to remove stash from your build smh

[hoary crag]

we establish the church of protocol stashes?

[subtle finch]

what if we have 32 forges, with 32 protocol stash

[hoary crag]

perfection

needs more stashes

[small creek]

what if we all died in 2019

[hoary crag]

I don't mind, tho my only issue is that I wouldn't have the chance to know about the peak waifu that is priestess

[hoary crag]

put it in core aic when? so the double bus ports can be lore accurate

[silent violet]

not peak !

[iron stratus]

9 forges could make sense and it will leave no excess sandleaf

[silent violet]

#1477099769397514252 message
never say never

altho my feeling is that we wont be getting 8 forges in the next id guess its probably 6

[hoary crag]

a fully sufficient 8 forge line in one subpac is straight out impossible without putting the planter loops offsite

[silent violet]

tech tree giving you 4 forges in one research seems unlikely

[silent violet]

why not?

[hoary crag]

managed to get this a few hours ago, which is a fully sufficient 6 forge sub-pac setup

there's like no space left for even one more

[silent violet]

i mean

theres a lot of beltage

[hoary crag]

the facilities you need for 8 btw

[hoary crag]

not to mention the stashes and the PAC itself aren't even there

[silent violet]

im not super optimistic that its possible but i wouldnt say its impossible

the math is in the thread i linked

ofc there are some assumptions made that may or may not hold

[fervent lodge]

seems impossible

if no pac, debatable

but this plain doesn't solve for the amount of free cells

[subtle finch]

bout to do the crazy test, place your bets

[silent violet]

72.64 isnt necessarily impossible

[fervent lodge]

do you want item ids

[subtle finch]

sure

[fervent lodge]

item_iron_nugget: 234
item_originium_enr_powder: 255,
item_carbon_enr_powder: 293,

if nugget ferrium cube wins

we know the culprit

[subtle finch]

orange kept winning earlier, so im betting on highest/carbon

[fervent lodge]

but if orange kept winning between carbon and orange

surely that means lowest

[subtle finch]

right, i confused the names

[subtle finch]

sooo....

everything else changed to the bottom side of converger, except the last row

[small creek]

i dunno man lol

the only thing i know is i wont be the one making it lmao

[silent violet]

72% is def in the realm of being possible

the best buck cap a bp is around 72% if you exclude the depot unloaders

plus the bigger you go the more efficient you can get

i think its def possible with external pylons

[subtle finch]

im not getting bigger, im getting more efficient

[bright zodiac]

but i think the number... will get altered a bit because of.... pipe

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[silent violet]

of course but i wouldnt say its impossible

there obv are assumptions being made about it being feasible

[bright zodiac]

planters itself has already wasted lots of tile

fitting them all with subpac intact is painful

probably had to actually utilize stash, and send out from subpac unload for shorter belt stuff workaround too to make it even more possible

but ehhh

[fervent lodge]

???????????

[silent violet]

i mean its just a matter of whether there exists a configuration that fits the requirements

[fervent lodge]

what was the order of assignment of them

[dreamy jungle]

External pylons and not caring about where water input comes from makes it more believable that it's possible, but would be hella work to figure out

[silent violet]

i havent seen any evidence that it would be impossible so until then it may or may not be possible

[fervent lodge]

now rotate the whole thing 180

[dreamy jungle]

8 forges also sounds like too much if we only end up with 2 outposts and main aic

[silent violet]

yeah i was thinking that there would have to be at least 3 sub and 1 main

[subtle finch]

i set the prio like this, same per column

[silent violet]

cause i dont think the devs would put the squeeze on that much

[pulsar cypress]

Try makin 6 forge, not even enough for 7th one with leftover space ig..

[dreamy jungle]

Ye not all want to make compact builds

[silent violet]

it would be hard for casual players to fit 8 forge + 240 xiranite usage in batteries in only 2 sub 1 main

[subtle finch]

now testing them further apart, maybe neighboring belt can affect results

[fervent lodge]

that's how i get hundreds of hours of playtime out of this game!

[small creek]

Truly a game that keeps on giving

[fervent lodge]

copy that and place it nearby

and then copy again and rotate 180

needs more testing

[sonic summit]

0 san behaviour huh ?

just like me

[fervent lodge]

more like 360 sanity behaviour

[subtle finch]

this is the limit already

ill rotate it afterwards

[fervent lodge]

because i don't even care about sanity at that point when i get stuck in the factory

[sonic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gilberta-angelina-angelica-arknights-endfield-gif-11689097488919160589

[fervent lodge]

wait real? tf

[subtle finch]

i get this if i add more row/col

[fervent lodge]

btw no more pain

[subtle finch]

it wasnt a problem for me (yet), but nice

[sonic summit]

man getting 900 m in all 3 daily delivery is something

[fervent lodge]

idk i started hating getting stuck on port output selection for like two seconds

[hoary crag]

can I try playing around with this layout?

[subtle finch]

i bet you use vim too smh

[fervent lodge]

nah but i do love my keyboard efficiency

i couldn't get used to vim so instead i bought a split spacebar keyboard, set right one to Fn and bound FN+IJKL to arrows

as i really liked the idea of home row navigation in general

[subtle finch]

that's just my layout incomplete

[hoary crag]

wait why incomplete?

[pulsar cypress]

Sure

[hoary crag]

haven't looked at the factory yet before asking btw

[hoary crag]

there is a very concerning lack of stashes

[subtle finch]

i meant rinrin's
no forge yet

[pulsar cypress]

Oh.. Similar.. Ahaha..

[hoary crag]

cuz this is lovely yes, but if I can make it look more orderly I would definitely do so

[pulsar cypress]

Hikarin one better, more neat..
Mine soo messy..
XD

[hoary crag]

lol

[subtle finch]

apologies, i fixed it

[hoary crag]

hmm

I actually want to try having a uniform planter set with this layout

sandleaf only on sides, and yazhen on edges (I prefer yazhen over jincao okay allow it)

idk why myself as well

[pulsar cypress]

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/checkmate-boom-gordon-ramsey-gif-12973756222565909666

why does this gif exist

[marble marsh]

Decided to make these cuz yes

Had the leftover ore anyway

[bold river]

I need help with Sky King Flats Construction Site 2
Kyostiv blueprints is good for higher ones
I need to get through lvl 2

[sick basin]

Do what you do in 1.0

YazhenC and lc batteries

[bold river]

I just joined the game 2 weeks ago

Joined this patch 1.1

[sick basin]

Well if you want to use kyostinv for whatever reason, then use his 1.0

[bold river]

Oh i see

I think i'll use it just to get through Sky King Flats Construction Site lvl2

[marble marsh]

Honestly if i was you I would have just messed around myself with the factory and after 4 weeks use a guide to improve it

Then ya at least know how to make a decent line if ya need something specific

[bold river]

I have made the 1.1 blueprint and i was looking at it and i have made a lot but i couldn't sell them because the materials are high for my Sky King Flats Construction Site lvl lmao

I was like wait a minute

😭😭😭😭

[marble marsh]

Lol

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=F9X5A4t8n3T9W6
here's mine but i don't have a code

might make actually

[subtle finch]

bruh, this game is haunted, im out

[fervent lodge]

cocks gun

[upper fiber]

back to carbon

[subtle finch]

you can make your own conclusions
ive set bottom as top priority, then mid -> top before logging out

[upper fiber]

so mid is no more

maybe it is protocol stash's fault since you put the facilities right in front

[sharp cargo]

my valley iv factory, how is it

[sick basin]

What are all those banks for

[tawny bear]

to store da money, duh

[sharp cargo]

what banks

[vale topaz]

thermal banks, you put 8 of them

[sharp cargo]

oh, for more energy obv

is that not how you use them?

[vale topaz]

what's your energy consumption ?

[sharp cargo]

like 4.5k I suppose on average, my max capacity is 9k with hc batteries

[vale topaz]

x_X should only require 4 HC battery and 4 thermal bank

[hoary crag]

here's my take on it so far when I said I'm matching the plant loops 😭

I swear

making the Automation Cores have an odd area on a factory area with an even area still annoys me to the core

[sharp cargo]

I want more Powaaah

[hoary crag]

running 18 hcv/buck A I assume?

[atomic fiber]

does your Xiranite slowly going up in the depot?

despite having 120/min usage and 120/min yield?

[hoary crag]

nope, why?

[atomic fiber]

ok , I will wait for other response

normally xiranite should not slowly building up depot yeah?

[hoary crag]

if your input and output matches, then yeah

[sharp cargo]

Yes

[sick basin]

Wasting batteries for no reason
Yk that ye?

[hoary crag]

nice

[bright zodiac]

true, that freakin 1tile off

[bright zodiac]

back in the days, v1.0

60yield 60usage, 12LC

and i will get like 250-320 xiranite per day excess somehow out of nowhere

but i think that was fixed along the 1.1 hidden tax fix issue

[atomic fiber]

i see... thx for the info

[bright zodiac]

nowadays never see any unnatural excess tho (when field report has exact value of yield/usage)

[tall tangle]

here is pipe situation. 3 of them converged into tank.

i've noticed that, when everything is up, that tank is not filling up as it loses only 2 pipes worth of liquid. then i discovered that 1 and 2 outputs are in perfect sync, and left converger, upon receiving 2 liquids, spews out only 1. i removed 1 pipe and put it back, desyncing liquid flow, and that fixed problem as my tank starts to fill up.

but, eventually, when cuprium parts are complete and production halts, i predict, that those pipes will sync again naturally (if i free space and reenable production). should that be considered bug?

[sonic summit]

i wonder how much hour i get if i e4 and max dijang skill on all 3 of them

[unique turret]

SC

[hidden temple]

That's interesting, are you able to consistently replicate the bug? Like if you place a blueprint of the setup, it should sync by default yeah?

You were prolly just giving an example scenario of it potentially syncing, but if you wanna prevent/prolong it from capping you can split the refined cuprium output to produce parts, dust, bottles and also separately stash the refined ore if you aren't already producing syringes

[copper lichen]

Anyone having this issue?

Context: Tank on the northside is getting 2/s constantly however, there is an issue down the line where its somehow choking. This is supported by the fact that the tank is backing up

[tall tangle]

had no time to test. maybe tomorrow.

in any hypothetical scenario with cuprium, if you leave base be for long enough, stockpiles fill up and sewage flow stops. as a result - you are on timer with power supply (if you rely on t2 batteries). that is why i think it's inferior to t1 xira batteries, even though you need less originium for t2.

[pulsar cypress]

Try make it like this.
And make sure the pipe to crucible also give 2/s output.

[copper lichen]

Yeah thats what i did for now

its a shame fluids are kinda clunky, they can be way cleaner

than they should be

[upper fiber]

uh 2/s for the fluid tank? for 4 reactors? fluid tank is trash for fluid moving since it is 1/s from the start again

[fervent spoke]

sounds like pipe 1 was not connected before you deleted it and placed it again. Where does that tank lead to? The consumption on the other end matters. a Tank will only fill if you are sending in more than you use at the other side.

[wispy grove]

The splitters have the same function as belt splitters
1st crucible will get 1/s sewage
2nd will get 0.5/s
While 3rd and 4th gets 0.25/s.

It has uneven split so you need to have a first splitter on the middle, not from the sides

[fervent lodge]

backfill will ensure that over time everything evens out though

same as belt splitters

[wispy grove]

Hell nahh i hate clogging

[fervent lodge]

if downstream machine cannot take all the 60/m you're putting into it, it will stop receiving it and 30/m will be available to the first one upstream

[tall tangle]

it was connected, otherwise i wouldnt be able to see incoming sewage in left converger. tank feeds 2 lines as i said before and gets 3 in

[subtle finch]

i made a recording that this is also not the case in this game

[fervent lodge]

works for me tho?

[subtle finch]

some cases yeah, i had identical layout where other half is not working

[fervent lodge]

it's the placement order i'm telling you

it's evil

[subtle finch]

not the first one someone reported series splitters misbehaving with pipes too

[fervent lodge]

i wish i could reproduce this even once

to sus out what exactly causes it

the only time weirdness happened with pipes is when i accidentally injected a piece of water into the sewage loop

[subtle finch]

i just hope if they fix logic issues like this, they make it clear in changelog, and not keep us guessing

[wind sentinel]

absolute abomination

[hazy wharf]

how to place pipe in mobile phone

[subtle finch]

like this

[sick basin]

Same way u place belts
Click and drag

[wind sentinel]

Do you need 2 effluent lines for zircon?

[worn creek]

iirc yes, a total of 5 crucible reactor for the 30/min Xircon

You could recycle the sewage produced by the last crucible to save a bit of space

[cyan forge]

Recycling sewage off xircon is kinda... Annoying tho ngl

Too prone of clogging other stuff when u wanna change from making battery to comp and vice versa

[sick basin]

U just have to either make comvined or manual change everytime

[worn creek]

Well that's true, I just usually turn off or delete the whole Xircon factory just to make some components

[cyan forge]

I just changed 1 belt on forge to go into aic instead of crucible to make component

While redirecting 1 of the sewage pipe into a water treatment

Less hassle

No cloggin

[worn creek]

Well... Mine is on a Conduit, replacing the conduit into water treatment on my cuprium factory is pretty easy

And I just add depot unloader for xiranite and viola! 12/min components!

[subtle finch]

I made sure to deal with switching comp production flawlessly with my base.
just flip pipe flow of the overflow, and turn off gearing unit and Im back to 12/min

[iron spoke]

I just put components down to 1/9th speed and segment and integrate xirafluid bottle production into it. lose like 1 battery per minute.

[subtle finch]

bottling liquid xiranite sure is a strategy

[iron spoke]

usually end up with some excess for exploration, but for some reason feeding it back into xircon production feels like it has more margin of error than conduits for me. not sure why.

I only do it for my second xircon production line tho. first one always just pipes

[reef dagger]

anyone has a zipline up there?

waterfall mountain in AIC area

[sick basin]

Indeed, all around as well
A little aic theme park

[reef dagger]

can you share pls?

[sick basin]

Sure i guess
Do u have game open

[reef dagger]

yes

uid is in my name

6832293115

I'm NA btw

[sick basin]

Aight, add me till while i open the game

6186728509

Im eu so its fine

[reef dagger]

sent

you can spam me ziplines if you want

Right side I don't need

[sick basin]

Didnt know which one it was exactly

So sent both, u can ignore the one u dont want

[reef dagger]

both are good

thank you

[tall tangle]

So, uh, here. I replicated that. But it happened at right joint this time. Recordings before and after fixing pipes.

[subtle finch]

idk what you're trying to show, are the crucibles full of sewage already

you're sending 3 sewage in, and pipe/tank can output at a rate of 4, so you wont be seeing it until everything in front is full

[tall tangle]

was explaining it here. you saying it vents sewage into reactors faster than it gets stored? then why behaviour changes after deleting and bringing back one pipe leading to tank?

[subtle finch]

when they are in sync, have you confirmed that one refinement unit is filling up with sewage?

one should clog if what you describe is happening, unless sewage is getting deleted

[tall tangle]

i didnt check refineries when that happen. i'll try

[fervent spoke]

that pipe looks full to the brim, does your xircon reactor clogg?

[subtle finch]

if it's getting deleted, you should keep it, you just discovered free sewage treatment

[tall tangle]

no xircon reactor is never clogged. probably because it converged closer to tank

[subtle finch]

why do you have this kind of setup anyway? you have 1 more sewage than what's needed

[fervent spoke]

it should clogg roughly within the next 10 minutes , cosindering all storage capacity in the system

[uneven aspen]

I see, I didn't know it's taking into account globally, I assumed it will just be like the xiranite being shown -120/m since that's being done at the outpost.

[fervent lodge]

if you're loading and unloading something within a plan, it starts counting it as local economy
I'll add adjustment of starting counts later
rn depot starts with 60000 of each item, but if it's being deposited in the factory from a production building, initial seed is reset to 0 so you can see starvation across depots

[subtle finch]

depot limit when

[tall tangle]

cuz cuprium parts are not used and clog quickly. as that happen, sewage income from left stops and 1 right pipe slows battery production. so, tank keeps process alive for longer before i'm there to free depot space

[fervent lodge]

i'm working on locale rn

[subtle finch]

it's so close to aic report

[fervent lodge]

that's cool

[subtle finch]

i did this witchcraft to make my prio lane works

idk why it works, only that it works

same with programming

[uneven aspen]

got me thinking of adding my outpost below the aic. no idea why adding the sub aic to it changed the ferrium usage.

[subtle finch]

you really need to make yazhen syringe A soon, so you won't have that issue

[fervent spoke]

so close to mine 😮

[uneven aspen]

interesting how the ferrium ore usage changes when i just go for 6->4 xiranite forges.

[tall tangle]

welp i felt like crafting some armor for change, so i nuked syringe production, because it takes 4 out of 4 red ore lanes

[uneven aspen]

the 100% and 67% xir effu reactors are reporting good numbers now it's just the xircon reactor now, no idea why it's changing based off xiranite forges.

[grand spruce]

Ok, is there a good way to make an auto renewing sandleaf planter system that feeds itself, feeds the aic, and makes carbon,

[sacred tiger]

Guys I really don’t know how to get good at the factory like where to start in willing

Wuling

[tall tangle]

this was probably the case. not sure how that happen and why crucibles might have been not full, but when they are, tank runs dry. hope that was the case atleast. dont want any anomalies

[grand spruce]

BC I HAVE THIS AND IT SUCKS

[subtle finch]

you mean like that?

[subtle finch]

you need a forge of the sky making xiranite first, then start rigging cuprium mineral beds and make cuprium parts
you will be needing those to make the newer facilities

[sacred tiger]

Okay and how to get gear and like basically money?

[subtle finch]

what i mentioned also helps you generate outpost income until you can place those large blueprint

[subtle finch]

money/bills mostly come from buying and selling elastic goods and depot node deliveries

until you upgrade your aic to max size and depot bus, don't try to get most of your income through selling in outpost

it will take longer

[sacred tiger]

I already did max lol

[subtle finch]

the thing i mentioned is also required for the gears you're looking for

then it's time to start placing blueprints, you can find a lot in yt

[sacred tiger]

Everyone using blueprints?

[tall tangle]

nope

[sacred tiger]

I want to enjoy the factory but it’s hard

[subtle finch]

well, you can do the tutorial

[sacred tiger]

I am lazy

lol

[tall tangle]

any particular problem? i assume you already late game based on that

[sacred tiger]

Is it possible to love and play the even tho I can’t with the factory? It’s hard for me

[subtle finch]

blueprint is for the lazy people

you can look at the crafting chain of what you want and start placing belts and facilities

[sacred tiger]

I can’t orgnize very. Good

[subtle finch]

if you really want to engage in it

[sacred tiger]

A question can somone still play the game and enjoy it without the factory tho? Like doing only blueprints

[subtle finch]

yes, for me 80% of the game is factory

[tall tangle]

it... depends. i cant for sure

[subtle finch]

ive seen others that 80% for them is speedrun

there's many ways to play the game

[lean zenith]

i wish there was a toggle for it to say how much it produces per min on thsi screen

now i have to do math ew

[subtle finch]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/#t=item_proc_battery_5%3A11%2Citem_bottled_rec_hp_4%3A3%2Citem_bottled_rec_hp_5%3A5.75%2Citem_equip_script_4%3A0.5%2Citem_equip_script_4_1%3A0.5%2Citem_proc_battery_3%3A1

[tall tangle]

some people like story some dont. same with combat, gacha and other aspects. some people hate factory apparently

[sacred tiger]

Ohhhh

[fervent lodge]

gigabrain
I didn't even think of having two areas side by side lmfao

[subtle finch]

@fervent lodge can i request a blueprint view toggle where the regions are more opaque and with larger text?
i think it's trying to do both at the same time and not being good in both

[fervent lodge]

sure

once i finish the bing chilling

[subtle finch]

curious about the traffic per region

[fervent lodge]

no idea, i don't count anything yet

i will start doing so when i do the video for it

[grand spruce]

much better

[subtle finch]

i didnt actually know you'd follow that
it's simpler if you just alternate refinement unit and no refinement, it will save you power too

[fervent spoke]

even better would be wuling plant, wouldn't it?

[subtle finch]

like this*

they're still in v4 i think

oh nvm they have xiranite component pinned

[fervent spoke]

this AGAIN

xD

[subtle finch]

those arent worth commenting about, they last less than 30s

and people wont know what you were talking about

[fervent spoke]

and it was gone the second i hit enter

[fringe summit]

this is the only proper way to request a delivery

[grand spruce]

Regardless its working lol

i dont have the depot fully unlock so this is what has been working

[fringe summit]

bro

[fringe summit]

that's cursed

use a water plant for carbon instead

x2 yield

[subtle finch]

he said it works, we're not here to argue

[grand spruce]

Lol

[atomic swan]

Yeah, if it makes the material, it works.

[grand spruce]

do you continue to get the resources when you log off?

[tawny ravine]

yes

[subtle finch]

up to 2 weeks offline

[tawny ravine]

output might vary a bit because of offline belt math

[grand spruce]

thanks

[pulsar willow]

can't you use just one crushing unit on origocrust? why use 2?

[narrow garden]

whats the best wuling blueprint for 1.1?

[subtle finch]

there are many guides on yt, they can all produce it

[narrow garden]

any you'd recommend

[subtle finch]

kyostin's is one of the popular one

[tropic plover]

Chat, is there a way to collect from all recycling stations without going there to each one to do it?

[rocky niche]

so far none

[tropic plover]

Thanks

[subtle finch]

the devs even advice you not to lol

[rocky niche]

but there's a news that in upcoming patch will have auto collect on specific owl station as long as you complete requirements

[winged oriole]

How much should I stockpile

I'm thinking 57800 since I don't want to move them

[lean zenith]

0?

[winged oriole]

easier to move batteries

[rocky niche]

you dont sell?

[lean zenith]

why would you want to stockpile that? :D

[winged oriole]

Just been selling batteries

No idea what next outpost will want so

buys me time to do other content

on patch drop

maybe

Gotta do something with my copium

[lean zenith]

honestly smart

[plain axle]

Power went out so i did some bs. Is this a good idea to get evenly distributed batteries

[narrow garden]

does using pipe splitters slow down hydro mining rigs

[fervent lodge]

given all are empty, last thermal bank will have a 1/512 chance of getting a battery

or 0.0585 batteries per minute

[plain axle]

last one got it first 😭
idk how else to distribute the banks tbh, if i only do 1 splitter per bank it all pools to 2/3 banks

also ferrium is like. stupidly hard to get in wuling, probably just my fault for not being on for a bit though

[fervent lodge]

by doing a balanced tree

[cunning obsidian]

no this is worse

[plain axle]

like this?

[fervent lodge]

a
|
b b
| \ \
c c c c

[plain axle]

AH pine tree

[fervent lodge]

this will be even

[plain axle]

alright thank you

[fervent lodge]

like 1 into 2 into 4

[narrow garden]

do i need a separate fluid pump for each hydro mining rig or can i use pipe splitters

[wispy grove]

I was about to ask earlier if i should reduce my 0.75/min comp. And then i got hit by "insufficient resources" earlier

[upper fiber]

1 pump can be used for 3 high

[narrow garden]

tyty

[mortal fractal]

Isint regional transfer the same thing as meta storage?

[upper fiber]

regional transfer has 2 options, meta storage and usual transfer

[mortal fractal]

? which one is it

[upper fiber]

tap that 'EDitar'

[upper fiber]

stop transfer first

[mortal fractal]

oh.....

[upper fiber]

there should be another option beside 'Almacen'

[mortal fractal]

found it thanks a lot, i was thinking how are they producing extra materials when their bases are already maxed

i have been transfering mats all along

[upper fiber]

😂

[narrow garden]

wtf are there only two cuprium mining spots?

[winged oriole]

gotta ramp up the copium slowly

[hoary crag]

still better than the fact we only have one ferrium deposit

[inner seal]

can someone please explain the pipes? i still have no idea how they're proportioned to utilize the connections

[hoary crag]

in terms of capacity and load proportions I assume?

[inner seal]

yes i suppose they're the basics

[hoary crag]

pipes (and conduits) have a capacity of 2 units per sec (2/s), this allows you to be flexible with pipes to some extent

[narrow garden]

how do i even power this one to water

[hoary crag]

however, a lot of people also assume that pumps do the same, when in reality they only supply 1/s of water

which sometimes causes facilities to slow down if they're not careful

most facilities only use 0.5/s water (or 1 unit every 2 seconds)

[pulsar cypress]

Drag em down.

[hoary crag]

with this, a simplified proportion logic can be the following:

• 1 pump can feed 2 facilities at once
• 1 pipe can carry the output of 2 pumps
• this allows a single pipe to feed 4 different facilities at once

[narrow garden]

i ran out of pipe length

is there a way to extend

[pulsar cypress]

Add splitter or converger then continue..
Or use conduit..

[narrow garden]

oh lmso that works?

[hoary crag]

how you manage your pipes does depend on how you want it to look and how much liquid you need to move @inner seal