aic-factory

[polar cairn]

I forgot how to do this but how do i discharge waste liquid safely?

[graceful otter]

conduit and/or water disposer like on the pic above

[pulsar cypress]

Conduit/pipe end in water treatment or facility that want sewage input.

[uneven aspen]

read the database file in-game, should show what formulas and aic buildings to use

[lone aspen]

How I get more exit material hole aside from bus?

[pulsar cypress]

Sadly only that's the option..

[graceful otter]

there is a ghosty android around for upgrades for more bus nodes

[pulsar cypress]

Buy more buss at main aic and sub pac area to expand it..

[uneven aspen]

talk to the aic steward to buy more depot bus sections. There's only the pac output and depot unloader

[pulsar cypress]

^buy area expansion first if its locked..

[lone aspen]

Even so the bus are only at the right when maxed

Low left part will remain empty

[keen river]

valley 4 is somewhat restricted by amount of unloaders you can put

dont waste them for depot loaders or loading random shit and you are probably fine

wuling has movable depot nodes so its much less restricted

[lone aspen]

Mf endmin should put another sub nap here xD

[uneven aspen]

valley outposts only have this for max depot bus upgraded

[keen river]

note that you can get one more extra output slot by putting the depot unloaders one pixel outside the border if you are super restrained

[uneven aspen]

the main aic at the hub is only 2 sides. outposts are only 1 side when max upgraded

[keen river]

but ultimately you can have only so many of them

so for example, you dont want to do this

now you have used one slot for quartz unloader and another for quartz parts unloader

instead you could have processed the quartz a part of battery build and only used one unloader

[lone aspen]

I need to copy that blueprint btw lol

[keen river]

ferrium not quartz, but still holds

[sonic summit]

? new npc since when

[pulsar cypress]

The depot bus area for production items..
The further empty area can be use for plantation since they independent, don't need bus unloader..

[dark quarry]

how to open all sub aic factory

[storm garnet]

you need to open the game first

after that, you do some quests

[sonic summit]

BRUV it keep getting idle

[gentle sentinel]

How's the water? 🤔

[sonic summit]

d

[gentle sentinel]

You split it into how much

[sonic summit]

3 high purity

how to fix?

[gentle sentinel]

Maybe it's to steep?

[sonic summit]

water afected by gravity?

[unreal crater]

shouldn't it be 2 high purity/3 low purity to 1 pump?

[uneven aspen]

turn them off and have them have some water stored

[gentle sentinel]

The pipe is effected by the height

[sonic summit]

2 low purity =1 high purity

[gentle sentinel]

3 is fine, it's 3x1/3s

[uneven aspen]

1 water every 3 seconds, so 1 pump should be enough for 3 of them, pretty sure it's just letting the pipes and hydrorigs have some water first then turn them on

[sonic summit]

but everyone got idle

[gentle sentinel]

Splitter issue then

[sonic summit]

its only 1 spliter...

[gentle sentinel]

The placement of the pipes, try to split it right in front of the pump

Saves facility as well

This somehow works

[gentle sentinel]

Ey you need to do something different in order to fix it

[storm garnet]

turn off the mining rigs and let everything clog with water, pump included, then turn them back on

then monitor the water

[spice tartan]

With the 3rd sanitation event I was able to get this very cool and totally useful zip... Diving for scraps ever since the lae/yvonne flight got nuked I miss it so much

[keen river]

finally got myself a zipline on the hill overlooking the city

[patent lava]

Anyone know a good xiranite component blueprint for legendary gear

[gentle sentinel]

Legendary gear?

[patent lava]

Yea. The Gear you get from Wuling?

[gentle sentinel]

The xiranite compenent or the cuprium compenent or both?

[patent lava]

Oh both

I completely forget about cuprium

[keen river]

wuling components are really simple to craft tbh

you probably should design something yuorself but if you dont want to think too much eh

its just this really

and other ones are pretty much same except you process and grind your originium

[gentle sentinel]

Or this for the long run

[iron stratus]

why do we need this many protocol stashes

[pulsar sail]

how did you get all text and no icon on that screen

[gentle sentinel]

The first one just to stash it to get the 15/15

[iron stratus]

it's one of the third party factory planners

[pulsar sail]

oh

[gentle sentinel]

I run it by default so i don't know

Or this unholy thing

[gentle sentinel]

This first design works as well

[patent lava]

Yall got the blueprint codes for these

[keen river]

not for mine

[dreamy jungle]

this some alternator? is the loop working as buffer?

[gentle sentinel]

The loop is for buffer

idk about the alternator part

[dreamy jungle]

i mean you making 2 comps using one gearing unit

[gentle sentinel]

Yea

[gentle sentinel]

Was making it before @sonic summit made this concept

[sonic summit]

just make it rotating instead

[real crescent]

whats that?

[gentle sentinel]

Buffer

[gentle sentinel]

Yea didn't cross my mind at the time

[real crescent]

ah

[dreamy jungle]

nah the facility count goes kinda crazy seeing this image, just to save 10 power?

[sonic summit]

THE important thing is this thing tbh 0, 75 maker

[gentle sentinel]

To be fair it was me being brainded

[sonic summit]

and i just modified it to add this to make 0,375 cause i only have 15 xira/min and i want to make 1/ min lc battery

[gentle sentinel]

This then

[sonic summit]

it will stall because i keep making cuprium parts and have this much packed

[gentle sentinel]

If only there's a way to reverse it

[sonic summit]

tbh the cuprium because i make 5,75 yashen a

[gentle sentinel]

hooo

[sonic summit]

i have cuprium goes straight to part so i can sell it if i reach 50k

[wind sentinel]

how many refineries can a single pump supply?

[keen river]

and if you mean reactor crucibles, then two

[sonic summit]

oh my mistake

[wind sentinel]

I mean refineries as in for the AIC

[keen river]

well, there is no "refinery" building really

[wind sentinel]

should be the same as crucible right?

[keen river]

im pretty sure that all buildings that eat water use 0.5 / s

[wind sentinel]

the refining unit i mean

[keen river]

and pump makes 1 / s

[wind sentinel]

for cuprium

[sonic summit]

oh 1 pump can suply 2 building but 1 pipe line can supply 2 pump worth of liquid

[gentle sentinel]

sewage?

[keen river]

so basically, two buildings per pump

[sonic summit]

but you can combine 2 pump to 1 pipeline

[wind sentinel]

aight thanks, I'm have limited space in my build lol

[keen river]

yup

and then 4 buildings per 2 pumps using one pipe connecting them

in other words, this works

[sonic summit]

ohh parallel pipe

[wind sentinel]

middle is a bit messy but at least the whole profile is clean

[sonic summit]

BTW its better to make xira buffer using off and storage mode stash to work cus alternating component require always cloged xira to works

[iron spoke]

what does that setup entail?

[polar cairn]

Is my factory fine, wont explode?

[sonic summit]

0,375 cuprium and xira gear, and 1 lc battery/ min

[iron spoke]

so how does the stash keep the xira clogged I mean

[sonic summit]

buffer, just make stash storange mode and turn off stash

[wind sentinel]

Can a single treatment unit handle 2 sewage lines?

[gentle sentinel]

no

[wind sentinel]

Should I just use unloaders for the sandleaf? These protruding things look kinda ugly ngl

[keen river]

pro tip: wuling plants are 4x as effective at making coal

[sonic summit]

4? isnt just 2?

[keen river]

you also cut the amount of planters in half

and then you get twice as much coal

[sonic summit]

oh

[gentle sentinel]

Make sense

[wind sentinel]

Wait really? If you hook up a water line?

[keen river]

yeah

you get 2x plants per seed, so you dont need second planter

and then each plant converts to two coal cubes instead of one

[sonic summit]

change the plant to wuling it only use 1 plant 1 seed piking, when you refine wuling plant it also make 2 coal

[keen river]

the recipe for making coal from wuling plants only unlocks once you try it btw

[wind sentinel]

Oh that's cool, back to the drawing board then

[iron spoke]

its so player hostile these hidden recipes.. there's no good reason for it

should just be in the database

[wind sentinel]

I'm too accustomed to my valley modules lol

[keen river]

yeah, i have no idea why those recipes are hidden

there are few of those in game

you can convert excess shredded sandleaf into shredded coal for example

[wind sentinel]

This monstrosity served me well lol

[wind sentinel]

Oh like the powder straight to powder coal? Didn't have much use back in valley, but that's something to consider in wuling

[keen river]

yeah

well, it doesnt have much use in wuling due to water plants being so much more efficient tho

[wind sentinel]

hmm fair, I typically just let my sandleaf gens clog

[keen river]

also, if you didn't get zhuan's memo about wuling about to die due to lack of xiranite, you can use the forge of the sky to combine liquid xiranite with cow turd to make fertilizer 😅

[wind sentinel]

For the harvest site? I haven't touched the planting mechanic at all yet lol

[keen river]

yeah

its not very useful

only gineseed is worth planting, and stuff for backpack unlocks i guess

[wind sentinel]

Ohhh I see, I'll do that once I'm done with my cuprium stuff

[keen river]

anyway, i think all those recipes are hidden normally

[mortal plinth]

What's the maximum production for Wuling in 1.1?

[keen river]

12 batteries and 6 syringe a plus some (like 2) syringe c

[mortal plinth]

Sc batteries you mean I assume

[keen river]

yup

[wind sentinel]

I just realized I forgot that grinding coal gets you 2 powders lmao, that's why my system is clogging

[mortal plinth]

Okay thank you

Im redesigning my factory and didn't know where to start lmao

[iron stratus]

xiranite

[keen river]

you are limited by both forges and originum for batteries and by copium for syringes

and you get one spare belt of ferrium that is not used

[keen river]

basically one carbon cube converts into one dense carbon cube, but you need two belts between shredder and grinder

[wind sentinel]

I think I should just start over, I'm pretty sure this design is over lol. Guess it's good practice at making things clean ig

[keen river]

my xiranite ended up as this

[mortal plinth]

Yeah I made the X4 xiranite production lines but like....If I need to reshape them to fit the other stuff that'd suck.

[keen river]

i just moved all xiranite production to outpost

it fills like 4/5 of it

and then you have clean slate for core

[mortal plinth]

Mine is 29x30 in size (two forges in one)

[keen river]

i tried to go for overall symetric design, with mediocre result, so its not super compact for sure

[mortal plinth]

Water pipes make symmetry impossible

It's so frustrating

[keen river]

yeah, unfortunately

[mortal plinth]

Shitty design if you ask me 🤣.

[dreamy jungle]

I've made some xira bps if anyone cares but yeah it's more fun if you do it yourself

[mortal plinth]

Yeah I'd show you mine but my PC can't do screenshots anymore for some reason...my windows key might be broken

[wind sentinel]

Hmm sounds good I'll consider doing that, back in valley 4, I did my megalines in core, while the outposts were used for plant generators

[keen river]

xiranite has no input other than water and you sort of want to pack it all to depot anyway instead of connecting it directly

so moving it to outpost works wonders

also wuling depots are kinda unwieldy in small building zones :/

[wind sentinel]

I love this design for planters, it looks the overall cleanest to me

[mortal plinth]

SHI.... I forgot one sandleaf line

[dreamy jungle]

that's a 60/min xira I've made in the past (25x28)

[leaden drift]

nice

[keen river]

that looks nice indeed

[wind sentinel]

Wow that's so clean

[leaden drift]

2 forges

and battery

[gentle sentinel]

Come on now, less facility

[dreamy jungle]

too lazy

[wind sentinel]

the belt bridges?

[gentle sentinel]

Yea

[wind sentinel]

Man then my valley 4 stuff is kinda cooked ngl lol

[gentle sentinel]

Sorta yeah

[leaden drift]

im probs gonna end up redoing my V4

[gentle sentinel]

Not much of a problem though

[leaden drift]

I want to make priority systems

so I can make everything

gotta make everything

[gentle sentinel]

This would do better (Facility wise)

[wind sentinel]

Is the extra facilities detrimental in any way or just a general rule? I've been very liberal with the use of bridges to compress everything lol

[dreamy jungle]

there's a limit

[mortal plinth]

It looks so nice before I realised I forgot one sandleaf line smh...

[gentle sentinel]

Not a major issue currently just an opportunity to give the endmin more room to be creative, like placing 100 relay or similar activities as there's a limit per map

[mortal plinth]

Now it has a lot of spaghetti

[gentle sentinel]

The curve on this man

[mortal plinth]

Lol that's just part of the screen

[wind sentinel]

oh I never hit that limit myself so didn't realize

[storm garnet]

so close...

[mortal plinth]

@gentle sentinel

[leaden drift]

ive hit it plenty

[gentle sentinel]

So
Valley pass 200 ish
Hub 700 ish
The rest of ValleyIV 500 ish
All Wuling 500 ish
(Forgot the exact number)

[leaden drift]

much easier to do on a subpac

[storm garnet]

we need a way to build energy refillers in the factory. or maybe that's a bad idea. whatever, i want more energy.

[dreamy jungle]

usually it's fine if you try not to cram everything in one AIC, it's better to spread production imo, but there are people that want to leave the outpost dry

[leaden drift]

Use every bit of land

[mortal plinth]

I managed to fit my valley factory all in 2 sub PAC and the main PAC, leaving one of them completely empty for me to do shenanigans in

[leaden drift]

FACTORY MUST MAX

[mortal plinth]

✌🏻

[gentle sentinel]

Ah yes that one 18/min and 12/min got me hard on placing turrets

[dreamy jungle]

so true

[wind sentinel]

behold my monstrosity of an outpost (nvm i just checked it has the same layout)

[mortal plinth]

Having one free sub PAC is nice if you ever wanna make something else you might need

Like bombs

Or just making random bullcrap to reach the storage capacity on all materials

[wind sentinel]

my core is the place with all the extra space lol

[mortal plinth]

Yes but you can't possibly make it completely empty

Which is annoying

Plus Main PAC is the one that looks nicest when full

😎

[fervent lodge]

there's so much space you get things like this https://enkad.enka.network/?id=Z9t4Y8S8r0y4V9&cache

hm. why description wrong.

[wind sentinel]

Man I really should do core builds lol, all of my shit is just modular

[mortal plinth]

That's one cool idea.

[fervent lodge]

i like modular

[wind sentinel]

I'll use the exact same thing as long as it aligns with unloaders

[mortal plinth]

Modular means you don't need 12 years to design stuff to fit perfectly together

✌🏻

[fervent lodge]

v4 made me unloader width paranoid

[fervent lodge]

wuling needs more depots so i can get rid of depot ptsd

[leaden drift]

sewage hoarding

[mortal plinth]

Hyperglyph won't let you polute, you're wasting Ur time 🙁

[leaden drift]

number do go up tho

[wind sentinel]

Is it bad that the first time I touched sewage a day ago I immediately tried to drain it in the river lol

[leaden drift]

.dump

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[fervent lodge]

they should have let you do it

and then fangyi comes and arrests you for hazardous material handling violations

10 mil bills fine

[wind sentinel]

We making blight 2.0

[leaden drift]

we can seperate from bottles

[fervent lodge]

when you want to send fluids across at a 4 times slower speed at a cost of 2 machines

but hey, at least you can depot them

[dreamy jungle]

yo are you trying to make a solar system

[fervent lodge]

maybe i should start stashing the fluids........

1 billion of everything

just in case i need to unload it for a gigaproduction or something

in 1.2

[leaden drift]

exactly

you never knoww

[fervent lodge]

in cryston bottles

and cuprum actually

[leaden drift]

well with liquid xiranite after capping

extra bottles would be helpful

if u wanted to mass produce zircon for something in the future

I have 52k In liquid xiranite

after I max out on copium parts

ima start bottling extra xiranite

lets me maintain 11 xiranite per minute longer

cause if I hyper cap on xiranite i then make 12 per minute

sewage recycling plant

maybe we should save inert zircon

imagine they pull a fast one on us

[mortal plinth]

Man I think I'm dumb...

[fervent spoke]

amethyst, ferrium, cryston, cuprium bottles 544k storage for liquids times 7 liquids xD?

[leaden drift]

stonks

have an additional 40k at the pond

for xiranite

[mortal plinth]

Each fluid pump gives 2 clean water per second, meaning I can put water in 4 buildings at the same time?

[leaden drift]

if combined the pipe ye

[mortal plinth]

I'm confused about the pump amount.

[dreamy jungle]

1 pump is 1 water/s

[mortal plinth]

Combined?... So two pumps into 1 pipe ?

[leaden drift]

yuh

[fervent spoke]

• 600 times what ever amount of protocol stashes you can fit in V4 XD

[mortal plinth]

I see

Need so much dang waterrrr

[mortal plinth]

I feel like tangtang

[leaden drift]

THIS IS THE ONLY FERRIUM DEPOSIT?

[mortal plinth]

Finally, Wuling batteries! Shredder begging for help in the background

[fervent spoke]

MORE SANDLEAF?!

[mortal plinth]

🤣

Recipes are getting more complicated that's for sure NGL.

[leaden drift]

this is my im bottling random stuff set up

I just maxed steeel sewage

time to move more bottles

[mortal plinth]

Lmao interesting ...using the crucible just to transfer the unmodified bottles from one side to the other

[static isle]

Pass thru

Many setups does this

[leaden drift]

I use it in my zircon set up too

[mortal plinth]

Im Just now getting into the cuprium stuff and so far....it's kind of a headache ngl

🤣

I might run out of wuling batteries until tomorrow 🫠 I forgot about that..... Welp...IG I'll manually grab some V4 batteries to start it back up tomorrow if it happens.

[hidden temple]

can pass thru fluids as well if you're only using 1 fluid output for production

[ruby sorrel]

hm is there a way to pipe water down like this or do I have to go the long way

[hidden temple]

yeah looks like you can

[ruby sorrel]

nice, this probably won't brick my mining rigs.... eh my depot is basically full anyways

wait it actually comes right out of the rocks

[leaden drift]

rip bozo

[keen river]

you could also just use the conduit 😅

[leaden drift]

but pipe dreams are made of this

[ruby sorrel]

nah conduits are evil

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-sweet-dreams-eurythmics-annie-lennox-misheard-lyrics-gif-16188561

[viscid plover]

endfield industry technology

[ruby sorrel]

oh... my medC is capped, should've been selling some

[jolly shore]

please, at least let me refill the one sewage pool in the game..........

[hoary crag]

natural filtration + added minerals

[uncut rock]

How do the new conduit parts work?

[hoary crag]

imagine relay towers but for pipes

connect source pipe to conduit inlet

[hidden temple]

v4 relay towers

[hoary crag]

place conduit outlet anywhere you want/need within 200m

connect the two like you would v4 relay towers

pipe goes out from outlet to whereever you need it

[uncut rock]

I have a fluid pump connected to a inlet where do I put the relay towers?

Also what are v4 relay tower?

[hidden temple]

you only need to power the fluid pump

[hoary crag]

valley 4 relay towers

ones you have to manually wire

same principle applies to conduits

you have to manually connect them

but unlike the relay towers

conduits are exclusively 1 to 1

one input -> one output only

[hidden temple]

fluid pump -> (pipes) -> conduit inlet
conduit inlet -> (wire up to 200m) -> conduit outlet
conduit outlet -> (pipes) -> facility that needs water

[hoary crag]

having a lot of active friends sure is something...

I slept last night with a totally empty clue board.

woke up to all 7 being sent to me

[severe nexus]

meanwhile i do clue exchange and am lucky to get 1 participant 😭

[ruby sorrel]

mbn having clue senders

[hoary crag]

I mean I don't mind adding if you're in asia lol

[severe nexus]

unfortunately i am NA

[hoary crag]

tho I usually clean my friends list every week, (clearing those who hasn't been active for 3 weeks unless they're an actual friend I know)

[severe nexus]

same

yk i just realized i can send reqs to randos instead of waiting for them lmao

[hoary crag]

lol

[golden sapphire]

can't wait for 1.2

piss color liquid and blood red liquid

not to mention HC wuling bats

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1485962789087477780/tang_mogs.gif

also the centrifuge

[upper fiber]

how much power if hc bat exists..... 4600?

[winged oriole]

Could be anything

[gentle sentinel]

True, considering the jump on valley IV 220>420>1100

[upper fiber]

welp if 8000 then the new reactor might cost 200 per unit

[gentle sentinel]

Probably 8600ish

[uncut rock]

Is there anything to use cuprium to sell to outpost?

[gentle sentinel]

Syringe A and the Cuprium Part

[uncut rock]

Ok

[hoary crag]

tho it could also be 6400.

1600 -> 3200 -> 6400

[gentle sentinel]

Endless possibilities

[glacial slate]

truly a power creep

[vale topaz]

in b4 190m zipline with 50 power rrquirement post wuling hc

[golden sapphire]

can't wait for 8 million power in endfield

will be there for that

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-alcohol-drink-ling-arknights-vtuber-gif-26284996

[upper fiber]

lc valley bat won't have value anymore if that happen

[outer basin]

New battery will be 6700

[vale topaz]

as tower power bank

[upper fiber]

new tower use 1k per tick

haiz

[storm garnet]

mk2 thermal bank, using 1 battery every 2 minutes

[ruby sorrel]

how about mk2 variable usage rate so you don't have to do pwm bs

[lone aspen]

Is it bugged?how is it possible that show 0,I see the machines that keep spitting it out

[waxen aurora]

your rigs keep mining

[lone aspen]

Yea so that should increas too no?but it always show 0

[waxen aurora]

check your aic report

the usage is higher than yield

[lone aspen]

This?

I have all the mining spot in the valley active,why its 0

[hidden temple]

cuz your mining rigs still mine the ore
as soon as it enters your depot, they get spat out

you're using them faster than you're yielding

[lone aspen]

It happened when I transferred it to wuling and then negated it and changed to the iron instead

[lone aspen]

Even so I should see the increase and then go to 0,but it always show 0

[hidden temple]

I dunno how fast the tickrate is for the displayed value but either way you're still just spitting them out faster than you're yielding

[lone aspen]

I do use them more than what I get btw

[golden sapphire]

weird comparison

it's kind of like saying my piece of rusted ship component is worse than my high grade plasteel

[iron stratus]

it doesnt go into the depot reserve and then go out, it literally just checks if there's a depot unloader that it can go to and just goes, it skips the depot until there's an excess yield

[pulsar cypress]

Cleaning up my farm..
Now looks neat and pretty..
*the sprinklers are all off.. its for aesthetic only..

[glossy sequoia]

Can someone tell me why my yield is low ? I checked the mineral beds and they are working fine. Should I replace the old ore extracting machines with the latest model ?

[silent urchin]

Why did I read this in the "Driving in my car," song's tone?

[ruby sorrel]

cus your depot is capped

[glossy sequoia]

ty

[pulsar cypress]

If u make other things that use ferrium, the yield and usage increase..
Depot cap make it stuck at same number with usage..

Also changing rig didn't influence number of ore gain..

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

how's yall factory

[small creek]

It is automated

[young igloo]

it goes into the square hole

[wispy grove]

[pulsar cypress]

Reaching meds limit.. -_-)

Gotta send some to v4 soon..

[fervent tendon]

MIKOOOO

[pulsar cypress]

Also dunno why the v4 starred keep joining wuling one..
If checking the v4 one, wuling one didn't join in the list..

[fervent tendon]

i have a question can u call and just look at my share screen

[wispy grove]

yo

[young igloo]

great now manual transfer 58k med buck A to wulin

[fervent tendon]

u dont gotta talk or anything

just look

[wispy grove]

[fervent tendon]

cuz its about xircons and the sewage facility stuff

[pulsar cypress]

Don't have problems with buck stock..
Wuling meds that too overflow..

[wispy grove]

i have a better idea,

[fervent tendon]

go on king

[wispy grove]

[fervent tendon]

heh

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[young igloo]

[fervent tendon]

it wont let me

[wispy grove]

ofc it wont

[young igloo]

iirc only mod allowed or sum

[fervent tendon]

bros doing me dirty lmao

[wispy grove]

yah u can call

[fervent tendon]

alright get ready to get bombarded with amazing photos

[fervent tendon]

YAYAYA

[hoary crag]

I wonder if we're getting anything for april fools

[iron stratus]

20000 oroberyls minimum

[pulsar cypress]

^imagine dev really send it..
Then a minute later they take it back..

Those who used it will get to negative and risk of being blocked..

[small creek]

nice prank bro

[hoary crag]

imagine

[hoary crag]

nah those who did it will have to paypal perlica 30k

[pulsar cypress]

Perlica got rich..

[hushed blaze]

Separating unit not allowed to place in v4
Now what

[hoary crag]

tbf separating unit also needs fluids to work

[hushed blaze]

Isn't separating unit basicallt split the bottle filled water-
Man, couldve made xircon in v4

[hidden temple]

yeah but the water gotta go somewhere

[hushed blaze]

Guess i'll just wait till new region unlocked

I had too much amethyst ore in v4, what should i even make at that point-

[solid python]

Zipline towers

[vale topaz]

amthyst ? buck c and amethyst part

[winter ingot]

We're getting teased with private room 3d pov interactions

[tawdry ice]

The af1 armor fragger is so insane

2 of them and a marsh gas cannon or whatever it’s called instantly holds any lane

Holy

[timid gate]

Chat is it better to use 2 thermal banks with the new batteries and a yazhen c? Or use only 1 thermal bank with the new battery and 1 hc v4 battery production?

[dark furnace]

imo 2 SC is better because if you meta transfer ori/dense powder from v4 you don't have enough for v4 tickets (if you have all 3 v4 limited characters in outposts). While using 2 SC wuling can still land you more than enough for outpost

it's meaningless to pile up battery faster because if you cap it you would have to delete them from depot so it won't jam up the production for everything including yazhen (no space for battery -> crucible clog -> sewage clog -> cuprium clog -> yazhen deficiency

[ruby sorrel]

you just shift production to other stuff or lower it if you're hitting cap

[timid gate]

Not 2 sc production, I already have 2 sc battery production, I'm talking about the remaining ferrium, do I use the ferrium to make yazhen syringe C or v4 hc battery?

Making hc v4 batteries drops my sc wuling battery usage from 3 to 1.5/min

But making yazhen c would give another source of wuling currency but at the cost of higher sc battery consumption

[timid gate]

Also meta transfer doesn't use any of your resources from v4 base up to 1500 per hour no?

[shrewd knoll]

just make whatever you can depot that is a wuling product since there will be outposts that will need lower tier items in the future, just stockpile them

[pulsar cypress]

MedC for me..

2.75 med C with extra from meta tf..

[timid gate]

I've been meta-ing dense originium powder and using the remaining ferrium to make v4 hc batteries to lower sc battery consumption

[pulsar cypress]

Since my factory only in 3.34, 1 sc bat enough to sustain perfectly..
More wuling stuffs stock help for later when getting more sub pac.. More bills to bought..

[shrewd knoll]

theres no point of doing that, if anything you need to burn more batteries so your other production dont slow down

so you dont hit the cap

[timid gate]

I mean hitting the cap isn't bad if you hit cap on both no?

Cause if you hit cap on both, that means there's literally nothing you can do unless outposts refresh

[pulsar cypress]

Just transfer manually to v4 if hit cap.. °-°)b

[dark furnace]

the outpost gain rate is limited by the amount they regenerate, not how much you hoarded. As the game always let you produce barely more than the outpost needs, it's pointless to stock pile

[timid gate]

I sell syringe a and sc batteries at a ratio of 1:2, 2 batteries for 1 a syringe because my base produces 12 SC batteries and 6 syringes per min

[bright zodiac]

how much power consumption u are rn?
if you are short under 200watt away

1output of originium line (30/m) can be split to fully poweree 4thermal, giving 200watt

[dark furnace]

the only time you want to hoard is before version update, when they increase the cap for outpost level

so after update you can instantly upgrade it

[timid gate]

At 3.6k

[hidden temple]

they mean for future outposts, to max level them more quickly if not instantly

[bright zodiac]

thats literally asking 1SC 1originium output, lmao

[shrewd knoll]

That's mostly done by not doing anything and letting the currency accumulate

[timid gate]

Haven't set up most things yet

[shrewd knoll]

its not really a "stockpile", stockpiling would be for new outposts, not the new outpost levels

[timid gate]

Like alluvium turrets or ziplines

[shrewd knoll]

so you dont have to shift production for it since they dont accept your current tier of items

[dark furnace]

you can't, because they start producing bills from 0 after update, unlike existing outpost that you can hoard their bills before update

[bright zodiac]

u can do 450 originium into SC battery

and leave 30 for orig thermal bank, u will get excess small amount of xircon overtime or xiranite (choose)

or, if you like to make component

[hidden temple]

oh true

[bright zodiac]

(i personally maxed cuprium and xira comp so i never turn it on ever again)

[timid gate]

I'm making 12 SC batteries, 6 syringe a, and I think like 3 v4 hc batteries per minute

[shrewd knoll]

you still need to turn them on though, i used like 15k xira comp on rossi's gear by itself

so i just let it trickle, less than 1 per minute, it will max again and wont really slow down production

[bright zodiac]

if i have OCD, i will

if not, pfftt.. then it means i have 43K left

[bright zodiac]

3hc

u are embracing manual dijiang transfer cult?

[timid gate]

1 packaging running at half speed cause limited ferrium

[timid gate]

No?

I meta transfer dense originium powder

And use the remaining ferrium

[dark furnace]

2/3 attributes?

[shrewd knoll]

all 3

[dark furnace]

still a bit bad luck but I wonder if they lowered the artifact success chance

[bright zodiac]

also u can make more than 1 HC with just 1originium output and 1ferrium (also with excess power, using timed control belt also give you extra HC as byproduct)

so yea, quite lots of opt

[dark furnace]

in 1.0 I could easily max 4 gears under 100 artifacts, now I can't even max 2 gears with 100 artifacts

[bright zodiac]

i think thats just lucky artifice +3

+3 is really abysma
+2 is very decently works

[timid gate]

Hang on lemme just share ss of my build

[rapid hedge]

I always had to spent 100 for 1 - 2 gears

since the start of the game

[shrewd knoll]

using the "good match" seems to be bad for some people

[timid gate]

It's my own build that I came up with

[shrewd knoll]

using the normal one has better chances for some reason lol

[dark furnace]

the luckiest one I got was maxing an non set gear to 6/6 with 8 artifacts

[bright zodiac]

[dark furnace]

but that new gear for xaihi took me 80 artifacts to 6/9

[timid gate]

Idk, I think I maxed laevs gears (12/12) with like 1k components

Maybe less

[bright zodiac]

your luck finally come and reap you

[timid gate]

Wait no, it's less

I didn't buy 1k artificing cubes yet

[dark furnace]

real, I max pitied Rossi and her sig

[timid gate]

12/12 Laevatain in like.... 300 components i think

[dark furnace]

yea 1k artifact should be enough to guarantee 2 sets already

[bright zodiac]

i rarely hit max pity in any game, but Enfield 120pity

[shrewd knoll]

it takes 50 components to make one gear

you cant even artifice it with 300

[dark furnace]

oh you mean 1k component

[dark furnace]

do you mean artifact or component

[bright zodiac]

[timid gate]

Meant 300 gear rip

Wait, idk if I hit 300 gear either

I remember I used a total of 150 of those artificing mats

Roughly 150

Cause my shops artificing mats at 99% are out of stock

And the 95% has like 30 left

[ruby sorrel]

hmm this looks nice but then I realised grinding units are so fat this is pointless

[pulsar cypress]

[fervent lodge]

grinding units are the end of me

they tile so horriblé

those and plantings

2 horsemen of not being wide enough while being too wide

[ruby sorrel]

yeah my current setup is really ugly

[subtle finch]

not as bad as fluid mode filling unit

[true parrot]

guys i'm being very overwhelmed by AIC factory as a beginner 😭 i have no idea what i'm doing and i don't know what is useful to have constantly producing and what excessive/unnecessary. i haven't even touched by sub PAC in the valley IV fort bc i don't know what to do with it

[ruby sorrel]

just look at what outposts buy and make those

you need batteries to keep up with power demands, and some small amount of gearing components (possibly I think they give out a lot more in quest rewards now) to keep your operators from running around naked until you hit gold tier when you can start investing

[true parrot]

i'm trying to, but good gawd i have like- no production actually happening for the amount of units i've plopped down

[ruby sorrel]

well, the numbers are pretty small for final products, 1 every 10s isn't fun to look at

[lean frost]

Generally, your highest level batteries are best to produce for selling. Then you make foods based on your excess resources

[pulsar cypress]

Humm.. Go to your aic, enter top view..
Take screenshots..

I think u still need to learn how every facility works and how belt connect..

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/tutorial would this help?

Then you look at the production stats (ESC - AIC report) and see how much of what you're draining and making

[ruby sorrel]

that's how you learn bad muscle memory

[fervent lodge]

TRUE

[subtle finch]

beginners' mistake is also not feeding enough input to a unit, you want to try and get your final production unit to max efficiency, (without the Zzz mark)

[fervent lodge]

i've been accessing the report by just clicking on the AIC lmao

[true parrot]

yes please 😭 just- any kind of guide to help me figure out what the hell i'm doing

[ruby sorrel]

first decide what you want to make

[fervent lodge]

honestly i think figuring out overall production def should be the next section of the tutorial
like consumption/production and how to read it

[true parrot]

valley IV only buys the batteries that are made with ferrium components, but i don't know how to get ferrium yet. i don't think i've unlocked mining for it

[ruby sorrel]

if you have an outpost unlocked go look at what they buy

[subtle finch]

wait why does that guide have animated belts?!

[fervent lodge]

ferrium is almost immediately when you get to the Science Park area

[ruby sorrel]

you have to run around a bit to get ferrium in science park

[true parrot]

okay, so i should go do that quest like- yesterday then

[fervent lodge]

because i disable them in the planner as they lag everything

I've had them from day one

I could enable them for plans <50 size honestly

it's not that bad

[true parrot]

i'm trying to extend my relay towers over to all the mining areas atm, max out what i can mine

[fervent lodge]

yeah that's a good strat

[ruby sorrel]

yeah that's good as long as you have the power for it

[true parrot]

it helps that i need to do it anyway, there's electrical nexus or puzzles n stuff in the areas too

[true parrot]

i've started trying to expand my available power with basic batteries powering thermal banks

have a production line feeding into a set of 4

[ruby sorrel]

imo factory isn't too important if you don't have an urgent need for the products

[true parrot]

and a backup that runs on originium ore

[ruby sorrel]

that's already doing better than 90% of the ppl who go "wtf is factory"

[subtle finch]

i would've reached lvl60 by now if i didn't let my sanity boosters expire

[true parrot]

😭 really? i thought i was doing poorly with my "wtf is factory" moment 💀 i realized really early on that i'm going to need... way too many stock bills to just sleep on factory

[lean frost]

Are you stock trading btw?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah you're kinda stuck with what they'll buy so it's a bit of a timegate

if you're not aware, the assignment effects, the only one that matters while you're not selling stuff is the 3rd one so they restock faster

[lean frost]

If you haven’t been filling up your friends list with randos, you should be.

You can buy your low priced stocks and then sell them at friend’s prices. So you can buy $700 stocks and then sell them at a friend’s place where they’re priced at $5,000

[ruby sorrel]

the first 2 only count when you're selling to them and give +outpost xp and +bills/item

[true parrot]

currently, i'm trying to produce buck capsule type C bc that's the next best selling product, but umm... idk man, i'm trying my best but i have like 2 and a half braincells to rub together

[lean frost]

Nah, stock trading is a separate thing from factory

[fervent lodge]

oh yeah, definitely check out that tutorial

[true parrot]

😭

[fervent lodge]

it will teach you the basics of ratios

[lean frost]

Press Y, go to Stock Distribution System, then go to the second tab

[true parrot]

umm... there's a second tab?

[ruby sorrel]

I assume you don't have enough amethyst income

[fervent lodge]

thise

[lean frost]

Stock redistribution*

I forgot the exact name lol

[fervent lodge]

buy red sell green

[true parrot]

[lean frost]

Oh, hmm. Maybe it’s unlocked when you do science park?

[fervent lodge]

oh you don't have it unlocked

[true parrot]

maybe 😭

lemme just

[lean frost]

Or perhaps you just haven’t done the quest yet.

[true parrot]

go

do that then

[ruby sorrel]

I think it's the bunny upgrade

idr

[true parrot]

teehee

[fervent lodge]

ye, your production is somewhat adequate rn

play game enjoy story, come back to factory and get stuck in it for a day because it's fun

[true parrot]

ah, i have another quest to produce explosives. that might also be helpful to do

[fervent lodge]

yep, for unlocks

[ruby sorrel]

if you have quarry unlocked there's a few more amethyst ore spots there

[wispy grove]

I'm kinda worried about those who wanna play this game in the future once they release like the 4th or 5th region. And we totally forgot how to guide them cause we're so far away from the story especially in the factory

We making nuclear plant factory while they make valley battery

[small creek]

I heard we will eos with 3rd region

[subtle finch]

the game handholds you more than zhuang fangyi handholds endmin

[small creek]

Ggs

[ruby sorrel]

I don't like this, but maybe it's just cus of the way I think of it

should explain why you divide by 2 ig

[subtle finch]

i stopped using 2s as my base, and switched to 1min

i just know exactly 30 is full lane, 60 is 2, and anything else require some kind of splitter

[fervent lodge]

it's the simplest thing because of 2/s and most recipes also being 2/s
it just works

as a mental crutch

[ruby sorrel]

I just count by belts now except for final products being x/min any recipe with 2s is 1/belt 10s is 5/belt

yeah but you just leave ppl struggling if you don't explain why it works

[fervent lodge]

preceding text kinda does explain it, but this is the simplest thing you can actually practically use

it works and that's what matters, and I deliberately didn't do "2s and 10s want 1 and 5", because it won't work if they do 15s at any point

while this holds true for belt transfer rate always

[ruby sorrel]

until they make faster belts.... well they probably won't any time soon

[fervent lodge]

pipes are faster belts

👍

[small creek]

my ass just works with 5 = 1 belt

[ruby sorrel]

pipes are stupid

[small creek]

so 15 dense originium = 3 belts

[fervent lodge]

yep, for 10s it's pretty much that

[small creek]

simple enough and has served me well

[fervent lodge]

you basically memorized the first step of that shorthand for the 10 second case

and then just do the last 2 intuitively

[subtle finch]

the issue with 1s or 2s as your base reference is later, they will be dealing with 1/3 and 1/6s and that doesn't translate well

[fervent lodge]

at which point it's a later complexity base and has no place in the first tutorial explaining v4 mechanics kekw

need to ease people in... it's already hard

[ruby sorrel]

it just bothers me cus I did it by multiplication to derive the shorthand instead of division

[fervent lodge]

but you have to divide 15 by 5 to get 3 belts

what do you multiply

[subtle finch]

the only thing that matters really is if a beginner would understand, if they can put it to practice any method is fine

[ruby sorrel]

basically I just asked myself 1/2 = x/10 so 2*5=10 and completely skipped the whole rearranging algebra stuff cus it's trivial

[fervent lodge]

so you just solve for x by multiplying the left part with an intuitive scalar

i mean that's arguably more effort haha
but it works yeah

[sterile stratus]

what's this math matter

[fervent lodge]

math!!!! algebras!!!

in my factory game?!?

[ruby sorrel]

in all the factory game

[fervent lodge]

i'm glad they made the ratios as easy as they are

[sterile stratus]

ig

[subtle finch]

someone explained to me to just divide the 10/s rate of the unit instead by 5, to convert it to the base 2/s. then dividing all ingredients with the same number yields you the number of input/lane

[fervent lodge]

much opportunities to powercreep everything with MATH

[subtle finch]

i think i got that concept better

[fervent lodge]

that's the same "guessing" approach where you step down mentally until you get to 2s

but if you invert it, 5 is what you're actually solving for in the end isn't it

[subtle finch]

whichever works, like i said, i turned out okay

[fervent lodge]

yeah haha

i will overlook the planters

[fluid fog]

Bought new Graphics Card from 1650 super to RX 9060 XT 16gb. MAN ITS MASSIVE UPGRADE.

[fervent lodge]

factory doesn't run on GPU, but boy will it look pretty now

[marble yarrow]

(gonna wait till my 4 years 3060ti dies )

[fervent lodge]

i'm definitely not moving until a price crash
i'm fine with my 64g ddr4 and 3070

[fluid fog]

I bought my 1650 super way back 2019, Its time She retire to someone else.

[fervent lodge]

i ran on 980ti for the last 5 years

i wonder if it could run endfield at all

probably

it's a beast card

[fluid fog]

you still run it

yeah

[marble yarrow]

my 2nd pc runs endfield on 1660 super and still looks good

[fluid fog]

endfield doesnt much use performance unless its 4gb below card will suffer.

[sterile stratus]

what's the spike in ethernet

[fervent lodge]

literally the only reason i swapped my 980ti is because of lower TDP to save energy

[fluid fog]

kekw, I have multiple virtual ports of Ethernet so yeah.

[sterile stratus]

lol

[vestal tiger]

Man

Not just optimizing factory

[wispy grove]

me just playing on potato phone

[sterile topaz]

Can anyone guide me about wuling factory i am bit confused on wuling machine

[fervent lodge]

what's the specific thing you have problems with

just where to start?

[sterile topaz]

Like what is the first step what should i get the materials and priority

[fervent lodge]

xiranite would be the first step

[sterile topaz]

Can i use my Purple battery on valley IV on wuling??

[frail trail]

yes

[fervent lodge]

yes, but it's not really prudent when just starting out

it costs a lot to send it and it won't power good enough

you can grab a couple in your backpack

when you're setting things up

[sterile topaz]

i did not explore that much on wuling yet and not putting yet relay HEHE

[frail trail]

you don't get enough ferrium in wuling to make v4 hc anyways

[fervent lodge]

you'll definitely need originium, make sure to hook up miners there

[sterile topaz]

Its so complicated on wuling than valley IV

how to make xiranite

[fervent lodge]

one sec

will send you

[frail trail]

refine plants -> shred carbon -> combine with sandleaf powder to get dense carbon powder -> refine -> forge of the sky

[ruby sorrel]

I should look at the xiranite tutorial in game at some point

do they just tell you to pull stuff from depot and call it quits

[sterile topaz]

I dont know what to do lol i literally have nothing on wuling materials

[fervent lodge]

https://enkad.enka.network/?id=F9X5A4t8n3T9W6

[vale topaz]

AFAIK, per story progression :

• do story until unlocking AIC at wuling and AIC at tang tang village.

• spam mining rig on every mining site

• once unlocked 2 xiranite forge, produce this.

• create a self producing sand leaf / jincao / yanzhen.

• create 1 or 2 line of LC wuling battery, 1 line of yanzhen C, xiranite component is optional if you only produce 1 line of LC wuling battery

• continue story till unlock more factory unit and defeat story boss.

• start replacing mining rig with the new hydro rig.

• unlocked another 2 xiranite forge, so make sure you have 4 xiranite line production.

• start making xircon using 2 xiranite output and 2 cuprium refinery / xircon line.

• turn xircon into SC wuling battery.

• can make 1 or 2 SC wuling battery, 1 line of yanzhen A, 1 line jincao C, cuprite component + 1 line of lc wuling battery if you only produce 1 line of SC wuling battery.

[ruby sorrel]

idk you should have a bunch of plants just running around for mining spots

[sterile topaz]

I unlock it all

i just need to do the factory that is last thing i need

[fervent lodge]

click on the areas to see which is responsible for what. There's 2 xiranite lines in there, you only need one for now.

You'll need some seed production in the outpost, which after valley 4 i'm pretty sure you know how to make

except jincao - that one just requires one seeder one planter, and you feed the planter with water - take the extra plant out of the planter

you can see an example in the yazhen syringe line (yellow)

[vale topaz]

remember to have large supply of xiranite and cuprium part before using them to produce something else, these 2 are material for factory unit construction.

[fervent lodge]

big true

[vale topaz]

well, most if not all of wuling tutorial are about piping.
rather like highlighting that for xiranite forge line use wuling plant for less refining unit.

don't think there's even tutorial for xircon line which highlight not to max refined cuprium storage or the whole xircon line will fail.
who knows, maybe 1.2 will introduce another source of sewage to feed into xircon line.

[fervent lodge]

to be fair i'd be mad if the tutorial was spoonfeeding me that

[pulsar steeple]

I believe there is but honestly, it's not 100% clear imo

[ruby sorrel]

yeah idk, seems obvious stuff stops when depot full

[pulsar steeple]

we already got 2 unused from the 2 cuprium tho

[vale topaz]

you only use 2 cuprium line for yanzhen A ?

[pulsar steeple]

4?

[tawny bear]

if you want 3/min sure :v

[vale topaz]

i meant, you said about 2 unused from 2 cuprium.
i thought your yanzhen A line made from 2 line of cuprium.

[vale topaz]

that was my yanzhen C when waiting my cuprium component to max.....

[pulsar steeple]

you know how Xircon produces sewage water also right? that means you got like 6 Sewage water output in total from the 2 Xircon Crucible and 4 Cuprium Refinement

[vale topaz]

owh sewage, yea, true.
we can bottle those sewage and turn it as depot delivery material, hope next patch allow us to use sewage as drone spray ammunition.

[pulsar steeple]

honestly i would love if sewage water treatment unit to output water

[upper fiber]

and i don't

[ruby sorrel]

ew more power usage

[pulsar steeple]

it's okay

[upper fiber]

imagine the hassle of finding out places to dump the excess water

[pulsar steeple]

huh wha?

[wispy grove]

technically no cause youre using sewage, to make sewage

[pulsar steeple]

Say, you're making Xircon, just connect it back to one of the unit that needs water

[upper fiber]

hello we have 6 water treatment, if clogged then water treatment can't run

[ruby sorrel]

hmm ig xircon wouldn't have excess water to dump

[vale topaz]

not into backfeed : /

[ruby sorrel]

so I suppose this would actually save power

but what would inert effluent end up as

[pulsar steeple]

lmao, i did with my Xircon line, i just plug the sewage from the xircon crucible back to the xircon effluent crucible

[ruby sorrel]

if everything just turns into water that's just weird

[vale topaz]

...... bottled and then turn it into xiranite ?

[pulsar steeple]

Ooooo interesting

[ruby sorrel]

perpetual motion invented lmao add water to xiranite, add sewage, and somehow get water and xiranite back out

[pulsar steeple]

reinventing real life water treatment plant

[upper fiber]

1.2 should be fun with the new reactor

[vale topaz]

in b4 region 3 introduce air pollution

[pulsar steeple]

let it be

[vale topaz]

or production line focused on gas

[ruby sorrel]

exhaust filtration unit

[maiden mist]

how do you use the pipes to keep enemies from reaching you in energy alluvium?

[pulsar steeple]

inert gas to produce something

[maiden mist]

trying to create afk farming spots in wuling

[vale topaz]

not the pipe, but the logistic pipe, i.e splitter / converger / bridge

[upper fiber]

just hope HG is creative enough

[vale topaz]

or you can use large structure like plantation / seeding / or other 2nd production tab, they can be placed outside AIC now.

[ruby sorrel]

don't ppl just drop planters or w/e now cus it's bigger

[pulsar steeple]

Enriching Xircon Effluent to produce HC

[maiden mist]

anyone has an example?

[vale topaz]

bottled the gas and turned it back into raw material with the help of sandleaf god.

[maiden mist]

I think I get it now, will try it blindly first

[pulsar steeple]

just place them around the alluvium, prefferably something like pipe bridge, splitter and etc

[upper fiber]

we need 4 xircon eff for xirconite, mat for hc bat

[maiden mist]

with room to enter?

[pulsar steeple]

ah damn, not in the next few hour

[pulsar steeple]

what

[maiden mist]

like, leaving a gap to enter to start it and claim rewards

[ruby sorrel]

you can jump between them anyways

[pulsar steeple]

just remove one pipe if you want to enter

if you want to do alluvium just place it back in

[upper fiber]

make an edge so the mobs can't reach you

[pulsar steeple]

Flying aggeloi:

[maiden mist]

an edge?

[pulsar steeple]

i really hate the last aggeloi in Wuling etch alluvium cause they can bypass the pipe easily reversing the role because now you're the one that's going to have a hard time killing it

[verbal swift]

For the Reception Room, I have Rossi Ardelia Akekuri and Estella all E4 for the base skills, do I put in Akekuri or Estella?

[vale topaz]

the new minotaur ( warcraft's tauren ) known to do high jump.
not sure with those goose kung fu master.

[upper fiber]

swap them when resting

[pulsar steeple]

maybe ask people in #team-build, they're way more knowledgeable

[verbal swift]

tyvm

[upper fiber]

rossi arde main stay, ake and este swapped

[verbal swift]

I feel like keeping all 3 aligned for stacked buffs is prob better than swapping to maximize energy but could be wrong

[upper fiber]

only swap 1 that's not 6*

[vale topaz]

it's more like toward your online frequency.
if you online once every 12 hours, rotating them to rest is better.

[smoky eagle]

This is fine now right?

I keep coming back to edit, lmaoooo

[upper fiber]

that cup part yield is sus

[smoky eagle]

huhh 😭

[upper fiber]

did you make component

[maiden mist]

like this?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[pulsar steeple]

yup

[vale topaz]

splitter lord intensifies

[smoky eagle]

yeah but i made it stop for now

it was disrupting my xiranite usage rate

[maiden mist]

there is room here but can't place more splitters

[halcyon radish]

cmiiw but xircon only needs 15/min ferrium powder right? so i can have one shredder go into two crucibles

[pulsar steeple]

If you are willing, you can lose your sanity for this

[upper fiber]

60 xircon eff 30 ferr powder

[pulsar steeple]

lost mine long ago

[wispy grove]

how tf did you make 1/15 splitter?

[halcyon radish]

damn so my math was off

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[smoky eagle]

UHHHH

lemme see

i'll screenshot it

[ruby sorrel]

nah stay sane, keep your power down

[pulsar steeple]

can't live without PWM

[ruby sorrel]

saving power with stash

[small creek]

.sahur

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086661220040774/1473785136901525525/received_2064093094380697.png?ex=699778de&is=6996275e&hm=59b1d6f4d1fbac5bf27450d31fe977ff6ecf9dfdd2605656824e78ae17ac0e55&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=809&height=809

[halcyon radish]

cannot believe that is official

[pulsar steeple]

what is

[halcyon radish]

that image

[wispy grove]

[pulsar steeple]

don't look

[vale topaz]

miko will split your splitter's splitter of splitter

[pulsar steeple]

close your eyes and preserve it

[wispy grove]

nah nah it looks amazing

[smoky eagle]

think it might be...

[pulsar steeple]

not sustainable for your xiranite

[smoky eagle]

This?

[pulsar steeple]

what's the purpose of this?

[smoky eagle]

so i don't run out of cuprium i think?

[vale topaz]

.... this channel should be renamed into how to splitter.....

[crude cedar]

.sahur

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086661220040774/1473785136901525525/received_2064093094380697.png?ex=699778de&is=6996275e&hm=59b1d6f4d1fbac5bf27450d31fe977ff6ecf9dfdd2605656824e78ae17ac0e55&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=809&height=809

[lyric turret]

I'm sorry, this is just so funny

[pulsar steeple]

i can confirm that the 25 works but not the 5

[vale topaz]

[halcyon radish]

does it matter which production unit gets the 30 ore and which gets the 25 ferrium?

[vale topaz]

i know one day this will be important, or player are forced to do this indirectly.... but still

[smoky eagle]

lmao it doesn't work i think lmao

[vale topaz]

[smoky eagle]

usage is still bigger than yield lmao

[pulsar steeple]

wait wait, how is that possible

[ruby sorrel]

you need to put equal amounts into making parts and bottles

[pulsar steeple]

you're outputting 5 lane worth of ore?

[halcyon radish]

but since i only have 55 ferrium to work with how am i gonna do that

[ruby sorrel]

split both inputs in half and feed both

[young stag]

wish this game had notifications if product is running low

[smoky eagle]

Ye, but the last one is making cuprium part that's really slow

using splitters

[halcyon radish]

i see

[pulsar steeple]

can i see the entire cuprium line?

i wanna know

[smoky eagle]

just 4 normal ones

and the last one is slowed by the splitters lol

it returns to depot loader kekw

[halcyon radish]

like this right? or maybe not since i forgot if the splitter reduces efficiency

[ruby sorrel]

yeah that works

[halcyon radish]

sweet

[pulsar steeple]

ah so i see, so you're trying to make 1 Bottle with 2 Cuprium line hence the extra fitting part?

[maiden mist]

don't know if they nerfed it or what, but enemies can just pass through

[pulsar steeple]

yeah you just have to adjust the positioning, flying enemy? forget it, they can phase through it

[maiden mist]

I mean they can just walk (trying with only seeds in v4 because happened the same with the pipes)

[pulsar steeple]

huh, weird, it works for me in Wuling Etch alluvium

only pipes

[shrewd knoll]

They made them block them, then made them walk through, then went back for a few days and now they can move through again so they are just trolling at this point

[subtle finch]

it's symmetric enough to me

[shrewd knoll]

most of the chaff enemies still die to fire, and just put enough sentries and you are set

[smoky eagle]

wha this looks so beautiful

mine seems like a mess

[pulsar steeple]

i'm probably just gonna do 1.2 raw all over again just like what i did with 1.1

deleting the entire AIC then rebuilding them

[vale topaz]

guess i'm the most wasteful one here for never combining plant/seed into main production line

[pulsar steeple]

Mine are just...

[subtle finch]

@fervent lodge can we please have hd grass?

[fervent lodge]

is this grass not hd enough smh

it even uses cicada principle to hide tiling

[ruby sorrel]

the more I fiddle with it the more troll the depot bus feels

[subtle finch]

i guess it's enough far away

[fervent lodge]

if you give me high-res screenshots of an empty wuling plot, i will add an Ultra HD Grass option

mine is not empty so it was hard to get good pics

valley 4 will also do tbh

[pulsar cypress]

6 forges.. °-°)

[pulsar steeple]

i really wish we can zoom out really far when building

[fervent lodge]

they said it's wulinging time and forged all over the place

[ruby sorrel]

it doesn't stop me like the game does

[pulsar cypress]

Mine just 4 forges cramped into the corner..

[sonic summit]

for 5 you need to make some space between the 1st spliter and converger by 1 belt, need buffer

[pulsar steeple]

Thank you, Forge of the sky

[pulsar cypress]

Cramped in top right corner..

[sonic summit]

guys where you can get blueprint simulator?

wanna fix my factory but dont want to do 20 hour repair season again

[pulsar cypress]

Akasha iirc someone say? Forget..

[smoky eagle]

uguu

[sonic summit]

or place where i can simulate making aic

[sonic summit]

cant make component?

[pulsar steeple]

do something like this then you can make 6/min Syringe A and Cuprium comp, just adjust the splitter for the xiranite so it won't deplete your xiranite reserve in depot

[ruby sorrel]

yeah my actual forges are a lot more place whatever down and stop caring

[fervent lodge]

i've found making the factory itself to be neat to be a bit miffing

but it's kinda relaxing in the planner

vibe

[fervent lodge]

pins

[sonic summit]

k

[fervent lodge]

second msg

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's nice not having the whole hours of downtime cus making stuff "neat" instead of "done"

[fervent lodge]

factory downtime legit stresses me lmao

i hope they will have "AIC protocol space" where you can just vibe

[ruby sorrel]

triple tier belts like that one sidequest in the hub

[fervent lodge]

or actually, i don't
more people for the planner

[shut rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1307407473120116827.png?quality=lossless&name=creepius_prime&size=480

[subtle finch]

I remember players hating the idea of blueprints. In hindsight, they’re not as powerful as people thought. they’re a necessity at this point

i think they were thinking it's more like a whole aic preset

[fervent lodge]

the fact that they made them limited saved it

[ruby sorrel]

what's the limit on bp size anyways, I haven't really used them

[fervent lodge]

50x50, 160 entities

[wind sentinel]

mfw I just realized how xiranite relays worked and already laid out my entire wuling with electric relays

[ruby sorrel]

I should start making mockups of common motifs so I stop doing the same thing by hand every rebuild

[maiden mist]

why hate the idea of blueprints? I find it really nice

[fervent lodge]

specifically shared blueprints

allows people to skip the game basically

[ruby sorrel]

might as well ban screenshots at that point

[subtle finch]

they hate the idea that a newcomer will just copy a design and get max output, in hindsight there's still a lot more manual prep involved

[fervent lodge]

doomposting line was this:
introduce blueprints -> people don't play the game and only copy guides; those who might have engaged with the factory simply import it because it's the obvious time-saving option -> AIC gets forgotten by the devs because people don't engage with it

[ruby sorrel]

I've seen a bunch of blueprints and they're all "do a dozen things cus we didn't make it super friendly"

[fervent lodge]

biggest hurdle for BPs rn is the the community is not that organized in this regard

like talos pioneers or that eft website with "community blueprints"

it's just a bunch of random stuff; not verified, you can't even know if it's efficient or not

[ruby sorrel]

low quality tbh, I find better stuff browsing twitter

[fervent lodge]

yeah

that's why for my planner i just did "curated blueprints"

need to get back on that

[ruby sorrel]

tbh the doomposters were half right, but the community is too averse to AIC that it doesn't even have a BP community to doom it

[fervent lodge]

mobile works at least for viewing... i am so dreading the mobile placement controls 😭

touch-only is such a gimped platform i'm ngl

[fervent lodge]

no, i mean, kyostin does bps at least

but his audience is the kind of audience that needs a tutorial for 0-1

so it's only fair

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's like a handful of ppl who come up with their own stuff

[hushed blaze]

Any difference when using electric mining rig with electric mining rig mk2 on originium ore?

[ruby sorrel]

you use 5 more power

[fervent lodge]

which honestly is how it should be.

I could introduce leaderboards in my planner, where you try to achieve X production in the densest space possible
just for fun

[pulsar steeple]

honestly, i don't oppose blueprint as i understand that some people are here only for the operator and combat aspect of the game, factory can be overwhelming if you're new to the genre, even if it's a simple one

[fervent lodge]

the best way here is to make sure we educate the newcomers well

[pulsar steeple]

exactly

[fervent lodge]

so they grasp the core mechanics and reasoning
the ingame tutorial doesn't teach you a single shred of reasoning

put square peg in the square hole

click the close button

[ruby sorrel]

I mean if ppl had day1 bp's that didn't suck I'd use it too, but it's faster for me to do the thing I want than wait for someone to do it

[fervent lodge]

and also the aspect that Kyostin was re-doing his blueprint multiple times before finally having a working one

which required a few overnights to test out the new mechanics

[ruby sorrel]

it'll be diff once the game gets older maybe, but I still doubt it'll change much most ppl are going to focus on the new content anyways

[fervent spoke]

Did he miss to finally place melantha?

[subtle finch]

@fervent lodge why is F for stash not a keybind? I'm either using delete or ctrl+x

[fervent lodge]

.......it definitely is

that's what i use literally every time lmao

[subtle finch]

mb, it's just not listed in the keybind list

[fervent lodge]

oh

will add

[rocky niche]

endfieldtools.dev

[fervent lodge]

last time i tried it, it was not capable of supplying fluids

[rocky niche]

i personally havent tried the factory planner of the site

[fervent lodge]

try it

just for the experience

[vale topaz]

the most minimal dependency from depot bus

[subtle finch]

@fervent lodge im encountering a weird issue with crucibles, individually these xircon effluent produce 3/min of battery, but if i merge them i only get 3.5/min
https://enkad.enka.network/?id=a8W2x7r7W3Z2Z3

[fervent lodge]

lookimg

[nocturne stag]

missing sandleaf powder on the top left Dense Originium Powder
you also need to produce more sandleaf powder

[subtle finch]

mb

[green moon]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[fervent lodge]

you're undersupplying

or oversupplying

depends on how you're looking at it

this funny?

[subtle finch]

nvm it works now, i should've checked more before asking

[fervent lodge]

dw

i'm fixing logistics building sprites rn

[sharp pier]

Does anyone know how to--- "maximize" the big Core AIC Area at The Hub | Valley IV

for lack of a better term im cooked--- every Valley IV factory is cooked