aic-factory

[fervent lodge]

not looking forward to doing those at all......

they have weird as hell interactions

[subtle finch]

understandable, so far dynamic recipes are only used to power save

[charred lodge]

is the main difference in the bottles just what liquids it can hold?

[iron spoke]

seems like they can hold them all but consumables require specific bottle type?

[subtle finch]

yes

[fervent lodge]

pretty much

[iron spoke]

cryston have no consumable recipe use so I use those for all my spray and for moving fluids between facilities in different zones.

[fervent lodge]

reminds me of someone who made the "bottle unlock maximizer"

which fills every liquid into every bottle

via rotation of splitters

[subtle finch]

sounds fun

[fervent lodge]

https://fixupx.com/junsx43us1/status/2034194002988372112

くろむ (@junsx43us1)

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[subtle finch]

it would've paired well with my 120/min jincao/yazhen crucible setup

[fervent lodge]

i wonder what % of people actually engages with the factory

this channel is so damn lively when new patch comes out with people asking for help with the blueprints they import kekw

[subtle finch]

they need it to gear their waifus with the latest stuff, then they're gone after that

[fervent lodge]

what should be the next chapter here
https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/tutorial

what do people usually struggle with

[real crescent]

plant loops

and when to use what variant

[subtle finch]

don't call me out

[wispy grove]

I shouldve done 10.5sc last month

Nah, the crucible problem will just destroy my sanity. I guess its fine doing it now

[real crescent]

but i see people quite often only use a single planter + seed picker when they need alot of sandleaf

and the other extreme of using 2x planter + a picker when they only use a line of sandleaf powder out of that

or using sandleaf to make carbon for xiranite instead of wuling plants

[thorn pike]

what

[subtle finch]

pump and fluid pipe rates are also asked here everyday

[fervent lodge]

arknights reference? in my arknights?

[dense jacinth]

HE-HE-HELL NAH

[fervent lodge]

where's new ferrium at

is there just new cuprium and that's it......

[subtle finch]

yeah...

[wispy grove]

Welcome to the factory

Become a ferrium beggar

But rich in amethyst

[vernal sand]

Lemme just Yonk that

[finite latch]

Sir this is aic factory

[glacial slate]

@small creek what about 1min 8 sec 1min 6 sec
~~i removed the medic tower and changed the tech a bit ~~
made it better while adding back the medic tower lmao
still same spot, no teammates and no dmg taken

and its kinda entertaining to watch too if ur gonna watch over

i mean the total ttk doesnt rlly matter that much if u aint gonna watch over anyway so it depends ig

[green moon]

i broke

[jagged locust]

need to expand the sewage storage

[real crescent]

bottle it up and force feed it to your least favourite npc via jet drone. infinite storage

[leaden drift]

if only they let us put it in a 40k deep hole

[rocky niche]

use the sewage for the sanitation event

[scenic swift]

does that work?

[leaden drift]

lets see if my factory died!

[lofty agate]

PEOPLE can i use the wireless water on the Valley farm is this viable?

[scenic swift]

you cant have water in valley 4

[leaden drift]

yeah V4 is a desert

[rocky niche]

you could scan water and it will say unlimited in some areas

but any fluid type facility cant be used in v4

[leaden drift]

mirage

[fervent lodge]

honestly same

[static isle]

One pump should be enough for the entire farm system right?
since you only need it every 4 hours or so?

[fading niche]

That's right

[uneven aspen]

your teammates going to get stuck by the buildings like this i think

but yes 1 fluid pump is enough

[winged oriole]

If you want to really buffer against unoptimal watering or accidental power outage you can add a tank

[fervent tendon]

This quest for getting the water out is genuinely aids

Tell me why I need 70 FLUID TANKS.

[tame sedge]

You can setup pumps and pipe/conduit to dump it in the pool on the right

[fervent tendon]

i did that to the left ones

[tame sedge]

Along with the tanks

[fervent tendon]

but i lowkey didnt pay attention to the right sides

lolll i shall do that when i get back on appreciate the advice king

[pulsar steeple]

Why do you need 70 fluid tanks

[pulsar steeple]

ah

happens

[fervent tendon]

bc this quest neeeds me to take the water out lmao

and i didnt even realise the right side was their

[serene geyser]

why you only place them inside AIC

[pulsar steeple]

Hear me out, Clean water as output for Sewage Water Treatment unit

[calm crow]

I don't know if I am dumb or what lol

But no way I already placed 51

[pulsar steeple]

yes way

[calm crow]

Where did the others come from lol

I only put down 11 of these things

[pulsar steeple]

have you account of other facility you have in the region

[fleet wing]

increase your regional development level

[warped falcon]

Hello kind strangers, I have a question, because I'm really confused. Is the power supply supposed to be shared throughout the whole Valley IV, or do factories have their own power grid?

[upper fiber]

valley IV has 4 PAC/subpac

some maps you need to relay tower from the HUB

[warped falcon]

Yeah, but do they all share power?

[upper fiber]

yes

you can put thermal bank on the hub and all area can use those power

[warped falcon]

Ok, thanks
I kinda feel like i skipped to an alternative universe, because I remember it differently. I must have been wrong from the beginning...

[upper fiber]

maybe different game

[calm crow]

Yes

[hoary crag]

it's the subpac area, which has its own separate limit

[fleet wing]

increase your regional development level anyways

[pulsar steeple]

RDL increases facility limit in every region

[lapis crane]

why there still tax in 1 day result

[hoary crag]

yeah ik it does, but they're putting their tank in the sub-pac zone, which has a separate facility limit.

and it's still 50 even at RDL 9

[pulsar cypress]

Need to learn to be good citizens..

[hoary crag]

outside sub-pac area for comparison

[lapis crane]

IRS even in crisis

[pulsar steeple]

interesting

[iron stratus]

how many of each plant do we need exactly for 12 sc and 6 yazhen A

isnt it 5 and 5

[tropic plover]

Chat, does each region share the same power output? Because I noticed that in any AIC from the Valley showing same power level. Just asking if I can use and AIC purely for power and the others for manufacturing without being worried about power limits

[iron stratus]

the whole region only uses 1 power reserve

between regions no but like originium science park and power plateau use the same power

[tropic plover]

Sweet so I guess in the same region I can use one AIC for power and the others for manufacturing, I'll have to align my plans for good power blueprint

[small creek]

sounds great

[glacial slate]

would u rather have a much faster ttk or ud rather the least amount of manual input as possible

also what abt the vid

[small creek]

the vid?

I like least manual input

automation is king

ttk is cherry on top

[glacial slate]

idk why but i thought u wanted to show or smt

mightve read wrongly

[glacial slate]

i agree
but only if i aint wasting my fluffed powders which gotta manually grind

[small creek]

i only shared time, not vid

honestly buckA will do

[glacial slate]

yea but dont wanna switch

[small creek]

i might make the switch rn actually cus

im using lv40s anyway

nah now im lazy to get buckA from depot

ill need a lot more compared to powder

[glacial slate]

[glacial slate]

also would u believe it if i said it was just 3 flamethrowers and 2 beams doing the dmg

[small creek]

absolutely not lol

[glacial slate]

[tiny topaz]

i wish they didnt cap our farm plots

theres so much more room at the farm in wuling....

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

Well well well would you look at that. My 4.5 SC aint clogged

My only problem is the ferrium reserves got lowered. My meta storage is working fine tho

[tiny topaz]

this made me want to go back to the fatory to make more of the heals....

damn you

[wispy grove]

People keep telling me that clogging in a fractioned factory is normal. I disagreed. Now I'm the living proof that it can be clog free

Welp time to make a blueprint

[white dune]

theres a lake in Wuling that has natural sewage

[wispy grove]

Treat it

[white dune]

wait why

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

No reason

my 6 hrs tweaking my factory paid off

[static isle]

water treatment unit should output clean water from sewage
change my mind

[pulsar cypress]

Now that you find it..
The wuling gove will ask you to clean it all..

[white dune]

NOO

i wanna fill any limited spaced pond with sewage

but they wont allow me to pour it :c

[pulsar cypress]

No.. Like in irl..
It will just drill far underground and dump all the sewage there..

There's no such thing as water treatment..

[static isle]

unrealistic industrialism
smh

[wispy grove]

nah nahhh perpetual factorywill exist if you do that

[static isle]

just reduce the output
like two sewage give you one water back
or sth like that

[wispy grove]

2 sewage = 1 water?

[static isle]

ayyy

[white dune]

i would agree but then from a game making standpont, itll be self sustaining and we wouldnt need pipes from the river otherwise

[static isle]

^ look above

[white dune]

LMAO

but ig u could make it so output is less

[pulsar cypress]

They will make new facility set with dozens steps..
Just to processing sewage to water again..
Not just a single wtp..
So making sewage back to water will drain our energy..

[wispy grove]

tbh i dont want more pipes in my factory

[white dune]

but ig following that train fo thought, itll be too complicated

[white dune]

yeah

[wispy grove]

ill keep the treatment do no output but thats just my opnion

[pulsar cypress]

More pipes is inevitable..
We will have all colors liquid as progressing..

[white dune]

i jus wanna make more oil pools

[pulsar cypress]

Its strawberry extract..

[static isle]

we have blue, black, white and three different greens
we need red and yellow liquid

[white dune]

oh yeah mb

[static isle]

or is sewage more purple

than black

[pulsar cypress]

Purplish red..
But in tank its more pinkish..

[wispy grove]

cause it got hit by sunlight

[vale topaz]

incoming red colored liquid

[static isle]

what is red liquid
new plant?
liquid copium cuprium?

[vale topaz]

no idea, it's from devlog youtube video.... that liquid connected to liquid separator unit, or maybe a new unit

[wispy grove]

HC Wuling coming soon

[pulsar cypress]

There's also pale yellow one..

[frail trail]

👀

[vale topaz]

the red liquid is rotating to that new unit and back to crucible....

[pulsar cypress]

The right facility one is new..
A rounded shape..

Maybe like a mixer, it add some powder stuffs to it..
And the liquid flowing in circle like washing machine..
Mixing both..
Return to crucible..

[vale topaz]

new crucible too with 4 belt output

[pulsar cypress]

And another sewage again as output..

[vale topaz]

... in b4 require 4 xiranite to 2 xircon to produce x_X

[pulsar cypress]

4 Input output maybe just for easier slot in and out at placement..
Considering 4 pipes connected to it might hinder belt route..

[wispy grove]

nah just 3 6 forges total

[low moth]

I already have the blueprints for the everything early and midgame, but is there any blueprints that give me most everything for midgame? Like id like to have a surplus of materials for other things in a compact area

Ik there are the in-game blueprints but still

[pulsar cypress]

Mostly 12 new bat, 6 medA, 2.75 medC
Thats kinda take all raw ore materials and xyranite..

If wanna get some spare raw materials need to tune the input output yourself probably..

[low moth]

Well I mean rn i got the blueprints from qyurii, but it just makes buck capsB I believe, and gives me energy

[frail trail]

The valley 4 bp?

[small creek]

Oh

[low moth]

Yeah I havent progressed much yet

[small creek]

If you havent unlocked sandleaf yet, that design should still be good

[low moth]

The main thing I need is component for gear and parts for builds

So I was seeing if there was any compact designs for any of those or not

[small creek]

Honestly i recommend completely skipping purple gear

[low moth]

Currently, I just got to the power plant plateau

[small creek]

i have one for parts tho, if u need them for zipline and turret

#1472973131537973424

[low moth]

Only reason I say that is bc im struggling a bit on the marble aggeumon or whatever it is

[low moth]

Mainly zips but yeah thx

[low moth]

Not enough damage output

[small creek]

doesnt the game mail u some purple comps

blue gear is fairly easy to make, you can have like
your carry with purple gear, then everyone else with blue gear

thats what i did back then at least

[low moth]

If i send my current team comps,in other chat, could that help with gear set up?

[pulsar cypress]

I think, just by lvln char and weapon kinda high no gear wont be a problem..
Me myself just using gear and essence when reaching wuling..

Just bruteforce ungabunga before that..

[low moth]

Or does it even matter

[small creek]

Could try yea

[frail trail]

Mid game gearing should be pretty simple, use the one that boost your main stat

[small creek]

u can use any jank ass team but having a proper one should make it easier

[low moth]

Yeah, currently im tryna get last rites 6 star sword and im almost to it, but I need more of the credits, so I was hoping to get better gear to counteract that

[small creek]

I have a purple comp bp but its not my best work
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466658112147816580

[low moth]

Because currently, my hardest hitter is tangtang

With her weapon

[small creek]

^ if u really need it

[low moth]

Yeah, ill see if those help my gearing needs

[small creek]

Also js for the record the mid game bp makes all this

[young igloo]

this game bp is mid?

[small creek]

you can.. say that

[vale topaz]

These items always require available supply
Origocrust
Amethyst part
Ferrium part
Cryston part
Steel part
Xiranite
Cuprium part
Since they are required for factory unit construction, although cryston is only for 110 zip line, for now.

[low moth]

Exactly.These are the things i'm always running out of

At least up to my point in the game.Anyways

[pulsar cypress]

Just keep watch on your aic report current yield, explore more and place mining rig to every node you find..

So your supplies keep increasing..

[hushed blaze]

Don't forget originium ore too although you have a lot, who knows you might drain out entirely.

[vale topaz]

stack them until max before using their raw ore for something else.

[pulsar cypress]

^i would say not max.. Maybe like 80%
To avoid rig clogging..

[low moth]

hey, by the way, what are the plants that you're using in your crystal/Steel part blueprint

[small creek]

Just sandleaf

[low moth]

Ohh, so I won't be too useful until I get to the next area.I guess

Well at least I'll have it

[small creek]

Yeah lol, sandleaf does a lotta stuff

[hushed blaze]

You started getting sandleaf at power plateau

[vale topaz]

more sandleaf for sandleaf god.....

[hushed blaze]

Just pick one from wild is enough though.

[small creek]

I recommend 5 actually

[tiny topaz]

pick 50

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. At this point, your best action is progress story and explore..
Unlock all maps and mining nodes..
So you have all the resources you need to build the factory..

[tiny topaz]

just to get it max

[small creek]

1 will cause idling

[vale topaz]

i'm still actively making amethys / ferrium /steel part at v4, just keep selling them at 80k for fun.

[low moth]

Currently, I am just using your everything sets for mid game

But I guess I'll just have to make the parts I need manually for now

[pulsar cypress]

XD
Well.. If there's nothing else to do..
All good as long as have results..

[hoary crag]

I have a feeling that they're two seperate liquids based on like a really small difference in the saturation.

kinda like how xircon effluent and inert xircon effluent only looks slightly different when in pipes.

otherwise you'd just loop the output directly back into itself if it was the exact same liquid

[hoary crag]

also if you look closely, whatever facility is behind that reactor is clogged lmao

[shut rover]

Is it just me or does the refined carbon keep going missing in my forge

[hidden temple]

prolly means you aren't producing stabilized carbon at full rate

tho if so then I dunno how it reached 50 in the first place unless the water input was late or you manually fed it 50

[shut rover]

Its very stable

Independent and everything

[hoary crag]

hmm

[olive basalt]

is there a limit to how many times i can split one pipe for mines

is it a ok to do so

[hoary crag]

ideally 3 max

[olive basalt]

do the mines not work with more than 3 splits

[hoary crag]

imagine it this way:

pipes have 6 units

high purity veins consume 2
low purity veins consume 1

[shut rover]

Its very unstable beyond 3 hydro rigs

[hoary crag]

so you could use it on 3 high purity or 6 low purity veins

or a combination like 2 high purity + 2 low purity

tho if you do more than 3 because there's low purity veins

just remember that those low purity veins might get upgraded into high purity ones in future patches when we get higher RDLs

that's why I still max out on 3 per pump even if it only feeds low purity ones

[olive basalt]

also, do the xiranite relays and pylons have the same range now?

[hoary crag]

nope

[olive basalt]

i couldve sworn that pylons had a range of 30 before

[hoary crag]

still 80 and 30

[olive basalt]

weird

why isnt it disconnecting?

thats a pylon

[hoary crag]

because it can also connect the other way around

[shut rover]

If you do the chain by pylon to relays it shows 80 because relaya max range

[hoary crag]

it connect because the pylon will be in your new relay's 80m range

[olive basalt]

so the relay im putting supplies the pylon too thats crazy

[hoary crag]

not because it's in the pylon's range

[hoary crag]

imagine this

[wispy grove]

does meta storage transfer show up on graph?

[hoary crag]

in valley 4

if you put a pylon, and then a relay far away

you would take the cable from the new unpowered relay and bring it to the powered pylon

the same principle happens here, just with the added automation due to it being a wuling relay

[olive basalt]

yeah its just wild cuz technically its getting the power from the pylon it doesnt make sense for the unpowered relay to increase its range

[hoary crag]

the relay doesn't increase the pylon's range

😭

it still connects because it's in the new relay's range

[wispy grove]

i dont know what is happening but im losing ferrium even though im using 112.5/min of ferrium while i have 115/min yield thanks to meta transfer

[hoary crag]

the power supply will still come from the powered pylon

but the cable will be from the relay

that's why it's 80m

[shut rover]

What question were you gonna ask me

[hoary crag]

took it back since your msg with the image already answered it

was about to ask if xiranite itself was stable

[shut rover]

It wasn't stable before but i put in 50 carbon in to stabilized it and came back to 2 carbon the next day

[hoary crag]

hmm

[shut rover]

Probably like .5 second delay

[hoary crag]

can you show the same top view but without the product icons?

some of them are blocking the belts

[olive basalt]

ah ok, im running off of like 30 mins of sleep so im sorry if i made a fool of myself

[hoary crag]

dw about it

[shut rover]

Sure

[slate plume]

is there a way to use 20/min originium ?

[hoary crag]

3 way splitter, 2 to facility, one back to depot or anywhere else you need 10/min on

[slate plume]

ooooooooh true thanks!!

[hoary crag]

close enough ig but oh well

hmm

yeah by the looks of it it should be stable

[ruby sorrel]

so I redid my hydro mining to remove conduits and found an extra pump, now I can afford more ziplines with the extra protocol+10power

[shut rover]

Its gone down to two again

[ruby sorrel]

how did I even manage to have an extra pump in the first place anyways

[pulsar cypress]

Does ur water supply ok?
Usually zzz facility is the one that cause problems..

It means not working full time..

[shut rover]

Its 500

Full to the brim

[vale topaz]

did you calculate correctly ? for mining purpose, 1 fluid pump for 3 hydro mining regardless ore quality node since once more regional lvl unlocked all of the nodes might become rich node.

[ruby sorrel]

yeah doesn't matter, if it goes up I turn on another pump

already solved the problem

[wispy grove]

I did it yall

Ready to be a blueprint unlike earlier

what im missing rn is the splitter system for yazhen A

[pulsar cypress]

[pulsar cypress]

Ig must do direct check on each facilities..
Coz from top view wise, all should be working fine..

If your carbon keep depleting, the cause surely from any facilities that before it..

[shut rover]

Gotta have more cuprium next patch because i need more components

[shut rover]

Very unlikely to be the grinders

Might be the same issues with crucible

[pulsar cypress]

Or this like piling up of belt system..
Make movement a bit slower for the carbon powder and sandleaf powder, kinda a tiny second lagged..

Just maybe..

Iirc someone said that belt system right next to facility sometimes create problems?

[lusty adder]

wont it just be 15/m?

[shut rover]

If thats the case, i would see the issues when im online

It happens when im offline

[pulsar cypress]

True..

[vale topaz]

don't think bridge cause slowdown anymore.
the random reduced production seem fixed 2-3 days ago.
go ahead and see your 1 day report, the line should be static.

[shut rover]

Well the xiranite is pretty stable its just that i find it odd that it always goes back down to two the the next day

[wispy grove]

the perfect 112.5/min cuprium split all i need now is to test it

ignore that

there

[lusty adder]

dayum, paper user

[pulsar cypress]

Easiest than open and close game..

[vale topaz]

can you screenshot all of the product from xircon line ( inlclude carbon , sandlead powder, yanzhen powder from xiranite line ) from aic report ?
could be something is wrong, because unless there is a distubance in production, all material inside the machine remain the same.

at least, at my side, that's how things happened.
all product inside the machine remain same number for days unless clogged.

the conduit which act for sewage and xircon fluid have clogged and sleep symbol.

[small creek]

bro please 😭

[wispy grove]

what

[small creek]

Fuck splitters, lemme use splitters instead ahh

[vale topaz]

say no to splitter !!!!

[small creek]

yes to splitter!
no to... splitter? yea no to splitter!

[wispy grove]

i didnt say i dont like splitters. i just say it hurts my brain. but i dislike clogging more

[small creek]

clogging is a feature

[wispy grove]

hell nah

[small creek]

meanwhile, idling is a flaw

just like protocol stashes

[vale topaz]

the splitter's splitter of splitter

[small creek]

I will split you in half and you will like it

[vale topaz]

Nuuu

[wispy grove]

my 4.5/min sc didnt clog for 8 hrs

[small creek]

Yeeeesss

[ruby sorrel]

at some point it's probably less belts to use a stash as a balancer isn't it

[wispy grove]

clog free exist yall just settled

[small creek]

I prefer my setup to have automatic management thank u vm

[static isle]

well clog wouldn't exist if HG just fix the damn crucible

[wispy grove]

theyalready did

[small creek]

CLOG IS A FEATURE

[vale topaz]

just curious what if their fix about random reduced production during offline is just a simple change to round up
so your 4.5 ++ always get to 5 no matter what happen.

[wispy grove]

ITS NOT A FEATURE! ITS A LIE THAT YOU NEED TO SETTLE FOR LESS

[vale topaz]

clogium....

[small creek]

clog literally lets me automatially manage sewage and cuprium

[wispy grove]

hell nah. fractioned facilities wouldve got cooked by now

[small creek]

it is a way of life

[wispy grove]

theres nothing to manage if theres no clog in the first place

[small creek]

im not managing the clog

im managing the splitting

so that i dont have to keep redoing the splitters and convergers and whatever

[wispy grove]

its okay to let planters clog but on batteries? hell nah

[small creek]

have u read this #1482466765459030056

[vale topaz]

my thermal bank always clogged.....

[small creek]

peak clogging

the same idea can be used for belts

[vale topaz]

too annoyed to minmaxing belt toward thermal bank

[wispy grove]

bro thats the only facility that needs to clog

U see this? This is what clog free looks like

im just coping at this point

[lean lark]

can anyone share a Zipline on the tower of power plateau? thanks

[lapis crane]

bro look again at 1 day stat

IRS is lurking there

[wispy grove]

nah nah, i just made my factory 12 hrs ago its not fully working yet

but ill show later

[wispy grove]

oh btw why you using 1 graph? thats rounded up too much just to make it flatlined

[small creek]

looks the same as mine 🥱

[wispy grove]

thats true

[sick basin]

Ok

[small creek]

hi babe

can u be more supportive pls

[sick basin]

Hi

I am

[small creek]

:amiyay:

[subtle finch]

have you seen spikes this pretty?

[sick basin]

You would see something prettier if u looked into the mirror

[wispy grove]

i finally fixed my cuprium usage

[sick basin]

Never send that shit again

[wispy grove]

goctha

[sick basin]

[wispy grove]

Looks ugly

[sharp basin]

how many thing should i make in wuling?

the max profile

[vale topaz]

how about the carbon stuff ? from xiranite lime ? any disturbance if you view in 1d range ?

[wispy grove]

pick 1

[subtle finch]

correction, 2.75 syringe [c]

[shut rover]

Not that ive seen

Its mostly xircon effluent that has pixels fluctuations

[vale topaz]

screenshot ? if not too drastic, things should be stable

[wispy grove]

am i trippin

[vale topaz]

no, your brain is splitter powered

[shut rover]

Pixels fluctuations doesn't change the data

Its just that one small line of pixel blue

[vale topaz]

yeah, that should be stable and wont drain stuff from 50 to 2 ...

[sharp basin]

how many planting unit

[wispy grove]

how can i edit my bp post? i dunno how to edit my pictures

[shut rover]

Yeah

[vale topaz]

just post new one and ask mod to delete the outdated one ? if you're talking about this discord blueprint channel.

[wispy grove]

i see. how can i ask the mod? just mention?

[vale topaz]

yeah, just tag them at your old bp post and request deletion because posted new one to prevent confusion for those who want to copy your bp

[wispy grove]

okieeee

thank you vrymuch

[subtle finch]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc/#t=item_proc_battery_5%3A12%2Citem_bottled_rec_hp_4%3A2.75%2Citem_bottled_rec_hp_5%3A6%2Citem_equip_script_4%3A0%2Citem_equip_script_4_1%3A0%2Citem_proc_battery_3%3A0

[ashen ferry]

you could have setup tanks with just 1 liquid inside and manually done it.
Overengineering at it's finest.

[fervent lodge]

doing things manually in an automation game
ngmi

[viscid plover]

I can confidently say they fixed the GU issue
No more over processing after the patch

[ashen ferry]

I just realized, I'm in #aic-factory and not in #endfield...
welp, at least my factory doesn't need to depot plants from point A to point B.

[wispy grove]

why cant i save?

[subtle finch]

over what

[wispy grove]

what does "facility limit"even mean??

[sharp basin]

Can anyone tell me? I dont understand these website

[royal eagle]

27.4 plant units as per the website

[subtle finch]

if you can't put the effort to take a look, how do you expect to to make the rest

[royal eagle]

my suggestion steal some from other syringe a

no need of plant

[sharp basin]

What dot even mean???

[wispy grove]

whats your regional lvl in wuling?

[royal eagle]

@sharp basin

[viscid plover]

Before patch when you went offline and login later your factory would have item accumulate under processed goods (ore 50 powder 0> turn into ore 0 powder 50) is like the processing way faster than the belt
No more such issue now

[sharp basin]

Max

[small creek]

too many facility
logistics like splitter count

[sharp basin]

K

[vale topaz]

iirc after you block a certain limit, you wont be able to move the selection or copy or save them as blueprint.

[subtle finch]

that's interesting, i didnt know the specifics. so would that have cause clogging? cause belt cant pull it out anyway right?

[viscid plover]

Exactly and it's also the caused of "tax" where materials or liquid gone missing. It was there since 1.0 and crucible made it way obvious and bigger of an issue (since we are xirang gated)

[viscid plover]

I'm glad they fixed it,thanks rossi

[small creek]

now give up and come to the clog side

[wispy grove]

Hell nah

[vale topaz]

... to him, your message wil be read as mass converger

[subtle finch]

then it would've just stabilize to belt rate once clogged no?

[wispy grove]

My factory is fully functioning i just need to make it a blueprint. No clog issues anymore

I already put my cuprium splitter. It looks ugly

[vale topaz]

try to block marker less then 1k.
i think beyond 1k selection prevent copy / movr / save as bp

[haughty wharf]

Mine is worse

[wispy grove]

Whats block marker? The area?

[viscid plover]

it looks that way but your facility are actually processing at the pace within the gap of "not clogged" and I don't trust that window I rather most of my facility not clogged all the time

[wispy grove]

This factory is at 924 blocks

[vale topaz]

yeah, the multi select function.
although i got red number before which warn me about too many selection.

[viscid plover]

Also it would messed with your xirang processing (as it clogs the offline calculation slows down to a pace where I had to top up 50 into skyforge)

[pulsar steeple]

lmao, mine's just

[wispy grove]

Yes. Stay in the clog-free side

[wispy grove]

[viscid plover]

we reign supreme
Also since they patched it I don't think we have much issue now other than the sandleaf management

[wispy grove]

Yeehh

[haughty wharf]

Somehow this works

[royal eagle]

why are you splitting like that

[wispy grove]

I combined 4.5/min SC, 0.75/min on both comps and 1.5/min HC valley in one picture no clogs

[wispy grove]

To balance 112.5/min of cuprium in 3 facilities

[royal eagle]

you making gears ?

ooh

[wispy grove]

Yep

[royal eagle]

im just making 6/min now

[wispy grove]

Thats fine

I just ran out of comps so i decided to make a stable comp factory

[haughty wharf]

Btw are this components automatic switch?

[wispy grove]

What switch?

Its automatic yeah but i dunno about the switch part

[haughty wharf]

Do they turn off automatically?

[wispy grove]

No

They run foreva

[haughty wharf]

How are you delaying them?

[wispy grove]

I only use uhh 0.75/min cuprium

And xiranite

[haughty wharf]

Ooh ok

[tender thistle]

Just realised if you want to save and stockpile sc wuling batteries for next outpost, your hc valley (18/m hc bat + 18/m buckA + 24/m citroC) battery production is sufficient to power the entire valley iv and wuling if you pwm both while still allowing you to buyout all valley stockbills

You have to manually transfer 6-7k hc batteries daily tho

[ruby sorrel]

sounds like work

[wispy grove]

That is if you have time for that

[subtle finch]

that's why i keep complaining that they should've enabled v4 to wuling transfer by now

oops, that's the other way around

[royal eagle]

im realready caped on v4 bats cant do anything

[tender thistle]

It is x_x you need to do 6 backpack transfers on the ship - like 5 minutes a day wasted

[ruby sorrel]

5mins of unfun

[haughty wharf]

I'm just risking it all and selling my batts

[ruby sorrel]

yuck

[royal eagle]

how much time will they last on 80k ?

around 20 days

[ruby sorrel]

I think I might have enough spare time to investigate better zipline pathing to yan ning, going up from recycling feels wrong

[subtle finch]

well, wuling doesnt have 80k, but it should consume 6289 hc bat a day, so 80k would last 12.7 days

[ruby sorrel]

but I kinda like having zips beside TP

[royal eagle]

we need 3per min

[haughty wharf]

I just realized I need to upgrade my wuling depot

[royal eagle]

its fine do it next patch now

[haughty wharf]

Next patch I will be better

[royal eagle]

yeah

[tender thistle]

What's your guys power usage for v4 and wuling?

Including combat facility

[haughty wharf]

Idk lemme check if my power hasn't hit 0 💀

[subtle finch]

combat facilities shouldnt require grid power, you should use direct batteries

[ruby sorrel]

4.9k(?)v4 3440wuling I run my turrets on batteries

[marble yarrow]

4600 + 3200

[subtle finch]

40 too high

[ruby sorrel]

battery power is what at least months worth

[royal eagle]

get it under 3400

[ruby sorrel]

nah I just burn orig cus I have spare from comps

[haughty wharf]

5k for v4 and 2,800 for wuling

[royal eagle]

any under 4600 for v4 and 3400 for wul is fine

[ruby sorrel]

I'd save like 60 power if I wasn't doing comps I think

[haughty wharf]

I think it's the buckcaspules taking my power because I have a lot

[ruby sorrel]

cus it'd also get me under 3/min medC

but that's just silly

[subtle finch]

btw, i switched back to 2 gearing unit, that alternator is running 6s earlier for every comp made

[royal eagle]

i have only 18/min both on v4 coz i was over producing

[ruby sorrel]

nicer graphs with 2 ig

[rapid hedge]

how to reach sub 3.4k power on wuling with max production?
not using ziplines on jingyu and qingbo?
not using farm?
or both?

[ruby sorrel]

eliminate redundant facilities no stashes hydro mining

I have 60+ zips and farm on

[rapid hedge]

I use hydro mining with max efficiency I guess

[royal eagle]

use water pump on 2 more big mines

[rapid hedge]

high purity for 1/3 water and low purity for 1/6

[rapid hedge]

really? what does your production looks like?

[royal eagle]

and still you can use ziplines and full farm

[rapid hedge]

I don't think hydro pump is the problem. mine is already max efficiency

I use like erm 60 ziplines + farm but it's still at 3.5k power

[ruby sorrel]

numbers for the deranged

[royal eagle]

im just telling thats how we reach below 3400 from 3500

[ruby sorrel]

3440 cus I can do 1 orig thermal bank due to comps

but I have comfy zips for shit like enviromental and dailies

[rapid hedge]

yes I use like 1 pump for 3 high purity
1 pump for 6 low purity
I even connect pump from one region to others if I have spare water

[ruby sorrel]

and some really useless zips like burdomuck spots I haven't used in weeks

[royal eagle]

i use 2 pumps one pipe and devide'

[rapid hedge]

yes sir that's what I do

[royal eagle]

what is issue ?

prob the 60+ ziplines

[rapid hedge]

the people above me told me that they had 60+ ziplines

but still managed to be 3.4k

[subtle finch]

here's a list of power saving technique, it's basically just maximizing unit efficiency:
in order of effectivenes

dual production in crucible
planter-shredder, utilizing all output
dual liquid water treatment (for comp prod only)
switching to hydro rig
gearing comp dual production

[royal eagle]

i have 21 and its lowest for me

[rapid hedge]

yea can cut 200+ power with 40 less ziplines

so you don't use ziplines on jingyu / qingbo?

[royal eagle]

no

[rapid hedge]

21 seems too small if you want to collect everything on wuling

[subtle finch]

so far i can handle 75 ziplines + sprinklers with full output at 3600 power, scbat+ori power source

[ruby sorrel]

I wish I could do those 5 spots with 1 pipe but splitting it back out is so annoying

and I already did 2 pipes in anyways..... the mess is intentional at this point

[royal eagle]

i just explore if i want someting

not hard core farmer

[rapid hedge]

hmm right ig I'll have to cut some ziplines I guess

[subtle finch]

i can do all 95 ziplines if i just switch to dual production crucible, but it's ugly

[rapid hedge]

Oops

turns out I use 68 ziplines

😂

[subtle finch]

plus or minus one for funny number

[royal eagle]

its choice based on your game play either opimise or use ziplines if you farm so much

[ruby sorrel]

oh right I should have enough protocol cap to use the remainin 8 zipline cap in wuling now

well I only have 10 spare power anyways

[haughty wharf]

I can finally relax

I might run out of ferrium ngl

[wispy grove]

bro why u have alot of ferrium output

[sinful osprey]

Damn

optically impressive pipe

should i remake it as my xaraite output is trash

[rapid hedge]

you have too many cuprium output
4 is enough

more than 4 = more sewage pain

[sharp basin]

why it wont make itself?

[wispy grove]

Dang to think that i have to add counter measures just incase i dont need gear comps in my new factory so that it doesnt mess up the rhythm of the belts

[wispy grove]

You need another crucible for the ferrium

First crucible makes liquid xiranite the output will be sent to the 2nd crucible

2nd crucible will make xircon effluent which u connect it to the 3rd crucible. The inert goes to the treatment plant

3rd crucible makes xircon thats where u need ferrium dust

[wind sentinel]

guys help i cant fit all my machines in this space

[wispy grove]

Wdym

You already placed it

[wind sentinel]

No access for the last conveyor

[wispy grove]

Did you upgrade your aic?

[wind sentinel]

yea

I'm sure I can rearrange this and get it all to fit somehow, but I'm debating if I should just run my input/output pipes from outside rather than having conduits

I like how it looks very clean though

[wispy grove]

I don't know. I think you should ask the owner of the bp

The pipes aint connected

[pulsar cypress]

It should be conduit ig.. The best and easiest solution..

The space is already tight, piping to that place will be kinda a hassle imo..
If possible that is, passing that many belt line..

[high dagger]

pipes are not piping

[wind sentinel]

How large are the xircon lines? I'm thinking of running the two sewage lines out from here to supply xiranite bats

Or should I just send these straight to water treatment

Either way the gearing unit will likely be temporary

[hoary crag]

facility list:

2x refinery
1x shredding unit
5x reactor crucible
2x water treatment unit
4x depot unloader

if you decide to not loop back xircon reactor sewage:
+1 refinery
+1 water treatment unit
+1 depot unloader

protocol stash/depot loaders depend on your ideal layout

but if your cuprium refineries are already separated, then you only need 1 refinery for the ferrium

[maiden mist]

do you have any essence spot you can fully automate with turrets? I could previously do this one but I don't know if turrets got nerfed or enemies got smarter

someone told me to use plant units to cage enemies, any thoughts?

[small creek]

it works
can also use thermal banks to cage yourself instead, use controlled character as bait

[hoary crag]

I think all essence spot can be with good turret placement

[viscid plover]

i've seen people use packaging unit or pipe splitter to round up the enemy saw a jp one made a maze to have enemy run in loops too

[maiden mist]

do you have any examples I can copy? I haven't seen anything myself yet

[small creek]

#aic-factory message

[viscid plover]

i just use splitter to make a box around the area

[small creek]

if only u can put splitter in v4

thermal banks kinda suck

sometimes my character still slips through

[viscid plover]

oh in v4 i just fight them

gilberta for the win

[maiden mist]

thank you!

pipe splitter you mean?

[pulsar cypress]

For wuling yass..
Make pipe splitter/converger jail bar line..

Square like cage box..

[maiden mist]

I just need anything since I'm just farming for fodder, have most of the essences I want if not all already farmed

but not leveled

so can go to wuling

[sharp basin]

why isnt it making the green thing at the bottom left

[wispy grove]

remove the ferrium inside the crucible

youre making the crucible confuse

[sharp basin]

i alr fix it

how many i need

for 1 sc battery

per 10 second

[wispy grove]

you just need
8 unloaders of oringinium
4 sandleaf powder
1 ferrium unloader
1 sewage(from cuprium refinery)
2 xiranite unloaders

to make 6/min sc battery

u gonna use 5 crucibles to make 1 solid xircon

[lunar abyss]

what is the max flow rate for conduits and pipes?

[fervent spoke]

2units/sec

[lunar abyss]

so I can shove outputs from two pumps into conduits and pipes?

[fervent spoke]

Yes

[lunar abyss]

ty

[tawny shadow]

conduits only accept 1 unit / sec
you can do pipes tho

[lunar abyss]

I see, thanks

[green moon]

when can we fill the spring with xiranite water

i need to bless the qingbos with XIRANITE

[hoary crag]

@tawny shadow @lunar abyss conduits can do 2/s

[lunar abyss]

so you are shoving the outputs from two pumps into one conduit?

[hoary crag]

yup

also saves protocol space too

[lunar abyss]

ok

ty

[ruby sorrel]

pipe logistics are under a different category

[hoary crag]

oh yeah I forgot about that lol

[pulsar cypress]

[green moon]

who CRAPPED HERE???? 😭 😭 😭 😭

bruuuuuuuh

[hoary crag]

oh that's why my sewage conduit stopped working

[tawny shadow]

it says 1 on mine

I feel like the last time I tried to send 2 water from pumps, only 1 went through the conduit

[hoary crag]

it fluctuates between 1 and 2 for me, but that's mostly because the conduits are being used on originium veins, something I have maxed out on depot

[hoary crag]

tho if you're combining two sewage lines into one pipe, then you would end up with 1/s flow, since each sewage line is 0.5/s

[viscid plover]

It wasn't there before Rossi banner, take a guess

[hoary crag]

it'll only be two if you put the sewage from all 4 cuprium refineries into one pipe

[tawny shadow]

it's 1/s because the other conduit is at 500

[pulsar cypress]

It say 1 coz the water from the pipe enter once at a time.. Iirc..
If u cut the outlet connection and let them fill to max..
Connect to the outlet..
In the outlet it will say 2 unit from inlet..

[tawny shadow]

I didn't use converger at the other part of my conduit

hmm nvm tried to connect with full tank and it shows 2/sec

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

Its just not stable water input..
Not 1 + 1 at same time, but theres like half second different..
So it shows 1 each time..

[tawny shadow]

yea

[hoary crag]

I kinda wanna try drawing megumin using item control ports, but I don't have any place left with enough space

probably v4 subpacs

[pulsar cypress]

Draw spiky circle..
There u go, megumin explosion..

[rocky niche]

that's what real-life sewage treatment plant should be, but the game treated the water treatment unit as eraser tool to delete sewage instead of returning the clean water back to environment.

[rocky niche]

you could literally yeet the water to the pond on bottom right side though. no need for the fluid tanks

[rocky niche]

someone drew summon circle in wuling in a reddit post before

they used conduits

[halcyon radish]

is this max production or am i somehow meant to fit cuprium components into this

[hoary crag]

someone here made one using electric pylons in science park

[rocky niche]

cuprium components mean you have to cut down 1 sc batt line

[hoary crag]

profit wise then yes, even this is beyond max sustainable profit

[halcyon radish]

mods behead him

[halcyon radish]

oh how much can i take out and still have max profit?

i thought 12 6 6 was just enough for max profit

[hoary crag]

max sustainable profit would be

12/min sc wuling batteries
6/min yazhen syringe A
2.75 yazhen syringe C or jincao drink

(ferrium metatransfer required)

12 6 6 consumes more ferrium than you can produce

[wispy grove]

[halcyon radish]

right so i'm kneecapping my yazhen c on purpose, does that just mean only one line each for ferrium bottles and parts?

[wispy grove]

oh shi i forgot the battery

[subtle finch]

as long as you dont go down below 10.5bat/min you can clear the outpost

[halcyon radish]

yeah i came back after the update a little late so for now i'll be running 6 yazhen c, but what should i do to achieve the 2.75 here?

[hoary crag]

55/min ferrium

[subtle finch]

easiest is transfer ferrium instead, not the ore, then use all of it

[hoary crag]

30/min ferrium line + 25/min ferrium line via metatransfer

both equally feeding into one fitting and molding unit

[subtle finch]

if you want a more consistent aic report, you can use a 25/min belt limiter

[viscid plover]

about 10 day left for the patch I need to make stash again

[halcyon radish]

ahh okay okay perfect

[hoary crag]

wait lemme show mine rq

[viscid plover]

Or maybe just all in comp

[hoary crag]

10? 1.2 is when rossi banner ends lol

which is around 16-17 days iirc

[viscid plover]

Oh I misremembered 10 day must be some other event timer I got mixed up

[hoary crag]

tho we should be getting 1.2 dev log 10 days before 1.2 drops

[hoary crag]

here's mine so far

[viscid plover]

Dev got us playing ring around the roses with belts for ferrium

[hoary crag]

lol

I don't take credit for it tho, got the design from someone else

[viscid plover]

my wuling ferrium line is just 1 line of parts now

[halcyon radish]

gotta save this for when my 56k ferrium reserve runs dry

[viscid plover]

Import everything else from v4

[pulsar steeple]

Exactly

Missed opportunity

[rocky niche]

looks like a rainbow gummies

[wispy grove]

oh my wrong label

[hoary crag]

would surely love a 16.5/min sc wuling battery setup

[pulsar steeple]

I love it when my Syringe A production gives SC Batts

[hoary crag]

can we get it to 18?

[pulsar steeple]

32, take it or leave it

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/businessmen-handshake-handshake-businessmen-business-gif-23760387

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

[upper fiber]

i'm tired halfway... making something that might be useless

[bronze vector]

wah

sth sth sth

is actually eating my xiranite

that hard

[wispy grove]

abusing your freedom eh

[pulsar steeple]

He has too much freedom, let's take some of it away

[bright zodiac]

xiranite 120yield 240usage

no surprise

[bronze vector]

it was always been almost full xiranite

i haven't touched it for 4-5 days

[pulsar steeple]

Well honestly if you're full of an item then you won't be for long if your consumption are twice as high as your yield

[viscid plover]

1.2 scrap the whole thing

[bronze vector]

aside yahzen keep stacking up

[upper fiber]

unless there is new xyranite recipe, yeah

[bright zodiac]

thats what i fear

pretty sure gonna redesign tons of shit

rip good base

rip symmetric stuff

[pulsar steeple]

Rip my base that i spent the whole day on designing after missing out 1.1 for 2 days

[viscid plover]

That's why I didn't optimized my base much in 1.1 I just get them working at full power
It's pretty much inevitable

[bright zodiac]

im gonna bet 80%

they will make xircon fluid and into another fluid just to make HC

[subtle finch]

here's all my redesign of syringe a and c production, i don't think i'll ever find a good layout

[pulsar steeple]

Enriched Xircon Effluent goes hard

Uranium in endfield when

[viscid plover]

Mixing yazhen and jinchao for a better drink, let's call it soya cincao

[graceful otter]

forgot to add water to atomic reactor - PAC wiped

[fervent spoke]

You miss 65/m xira

[pulsar steeple]

Look, hear me out, Thermal Power Plant, just need Carbon + Water to get some power

[bright zodiac]

u should not look at that,

the other full report already state, he technically already has 120YIELD, but 240usage

[bright zodiac]

they will never agree to make that happen

[pulsar steeple]

He has 120/240 only IF his Xiranite supplies exist, but when observed, his Xiranite stock is nonexistent, so it dropped to 55/55, Schrödinger's Xiranite

[pulsar steeple]

Ik :(

[bright zodiac]

i just want v4 to be able to send stuff to wuling (not using Metastprage)

and wuling able to send stuff to v4

[fervent spoke]

Theoretical usage on its own does not matter.

Mine should theoretically also drain but does not

[bright zodiac]

theoretical is absolutely correct.... THEORETICALLY.

its like you should always believe if program return code results "true" or "false"

tho whats happened in actual field is different matter, definitely different from theoretical.

[pulsar steeple]

Send 1500 Xiranite to V4 via metastorage, then 1500 Xiranite from V4 to Wuling via Storage Transfer

[wispy grove]

Lemme send some of my bps for my posts real quick

[pulsar steeple]

Stonks

[bright zodiac]

about that.....

we should have 1800 item send, its 30/m , not 25/m cringe

ive alreadt saw ppl post that feedbakc

[pulsar steeple]

I KNOOOOOWWWW

[bright zodiac]

and... yea, i mean its gonna be a thing that we no longer need to manual dijiang transfee

[pulsar steeple]

Like... why...

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

it is obvious not 1500 xyranite per transfer.... should be less

[bright zodiac]

if endmin can manually send 80.000 unit to wuling within 2-3min standing in dijiang.

surely STOCKPILE transferring stuff.... shouldnot limited by 1500 unit in 60min

metastorage should be a different thing, yes

[pulsar cypress]

Agreed with this..
For stockpile we should be able to adjust the number we want to send in one go..
Not 1500/60 mins or manually back and forth through backpack..

[subtle finch]

ferrium split is perfect if you're making 0.5/min xir and cuprium comp

[pulsar steeple]

Like 500-750?

[upper fiber]

300 maybe if valued at 5

[pulsar steeple]

YES

[pulsar steeple]

How much is stabilized carbon?

[pulsar cypress]

Is it even possible to meta xiranite?
Dont think they will give us free xiranite..

[bright zodiac]

currently metastoeage are product from v4

v4 dont have xiranite, so NO

[wispy grove]

finally i finished my factory post

[pulsar cypress]

I mean even after we allowed to meta from wuling to v4..

Dont think xiranite will be there..

[bright zodiac]

when wuling is rdm lv12, i believe we can, definitely

[green moon]

val4 did embargo on water so ppl dont have water cant make xiranite

they also cant take showers

xiranite isnt an issue , water is

[pulsar steeple]

V4 embargo everything from Wuling

[bright zodiac]

but metastorage sending the xiranite to v4 is kinda useless

unless we manual dijiang transfer it back again

[subtle finch]

i dont think they'll even let us meta to v4, it would be to the new region by then

[pulsar cypress]

They even limited the forge qty..
If can meta xiranite, why even in the first place limiting forge..

[pulsar steeple]

Y'all reckon RDL 12 in 1.2?

[bright zodiac]

imagine its lv11

[green moon]

all val4 residents stinky as hell

[pulsar steeple]

Imagine

[bright zodiac]

[pulsar steeple]

They don't even know what water is

[subtle finch]

i think we're only 1/3 of wuling so prob not

[bright zodiac]

yea v4 has water but they refuse us to use any water at all

[subtle finch]

there would be more areas like v4

[green moon]

thats why pengmin didnt take showers for 10 yrs

[pulsar steeple]

I already found the 4th area

With the Sub-PAC area

[wispy grove]

guys guys on my old bp post, shout i mention "everyone"? i wanna mention the people who read my post before to go to my new post

[pulsar steeple]

you guys reckon Wuling will get 3 Sub Pac like V4?

Or just 2

[gentle sentinel]

2 would be enough

[bright zodiac]

not sure but i guess its just 2 subpac at wuling

[gentle sentinel]

3 is to be expected

[pulsar steeple]

Yeah honestly i don't see the need for a third one unless we get more Cuprium

Or new ore

[bright zodiac]

at the pace, not sure if it gonna be 3

[bright zodiac]

umm im not sure, in case of doubt, flip a coin

[upper fiber]

i give up, can't export this anyway

[wispy grove]

hmmm if i use mention and literally everyone got notified, im cooked

[pulsar steeple]

Lmao

[ruby sorrel]

what are you doing with that lol

[pulsar steeple]

Prolly for 1.2

[bright zodiac]

sometimes main PAC unable to symmetric design is kinda cringe

[pulsar steeple]

6 Forge of the Sky, wild

[feral plover]

Can't wait for new outpost and RDL 12 so that it's easier to use up these gear components.

[pulsar steeple]

Speaking of which, yeah honestly, why can't we mass produce Forge of the Sky

[bright zodiac]

spotted someone who has both at 58K just like me

[pulsar steeple]

I mean we can but can't exactly use it

[ruby sorrel]

what if we get +3 forges next upgrade cus it went +1 to +2

[bright zodiac]

waw, cringe rip symmetric

[pulsar steeple]

Plot twist, 4

[feral plover]

Took an eternity to hit cap, and even longer to figure out how to improve my Xircon production.

Never enough Wuling bills. 😭

[bright zodiac]

ive been making 3/m cuprium component since 1.1 release

and it definitely took 2week full to max at that pace

[ruby sorrel]

7 would be pretty funny cus I don't think you can fit a 7th forge in outpost

[subtle finch]

imagine if they gave us forge upgrade instead, the size of a pac

[pulsar steeple]

You can make 6/m if your Cuprium and Xiranite are maxed out

Should cut the time down in half, also excess resource in half, if not more

[bright zodiac]

"can", but dont want to

9SC already barely enough to race outpost resource

i have enough cos i have too much LC wuling (beyond 150k) when 1.0

[pulsar steeple]

Lmao, I'm at 25k Curium comp and just cut the production from there to focus on income

My Xiranite still at 3k...

[feral plover]

Definitely faster to hitting cap than me.

New outpost is free real estate for more forges!

I usually just did a control port and used all 6 inlets of the gearing unit to hit 6/m for components. Wasn't in a big rush to hit cap. Cuprium has been perpetually zero, but now hopefully can finally reach cap again for cuprium everything.

[ruby sorrel]

actually using depot bus feels like trolling somehow

[pulsar cypress]

Tree water..

[pulsar steeple]

It is

[rapid hedge]

conduit is a scam
last time I use conduits on every single pumps, I only had 30 facility left before I hit the 512 limit
now I have more than 100

[subtle finch]

i hate what the forge has become, it's just a giant mineral bed that takes up aic space

[ruby sorrel]

yeah conduits are evil

[feral plover]

I, uh, use conduits a bunch.

[subtle finch]

I slowly phased out my conduits unintentionally, just because of how annoying they are

[ruby sorrel]

disembodied crucibles, so many stashes too

[pulsar cypress]

°-°) those water pipe who climb up to ferrium rig..

[subtle finch]

lol

[rapid hedge]

compact factory uses a lot of splitters
and splitters count as facility
so I had to sacrifice some conduits

[feral plover]

I like having pipes that get filled to the brim if possible, even if it means that the factory aesthetics get a 0/300 for treatment.

[rapid hedge]

you haven't seen my pipes from tianjing to that cave on south wuling

just to save 5 power

[pulsar cypress]

I meann..
Why piping far when the water source is right besides the nodes..

[rapid hedge]

the one on cave only needs 1.5 water

[ruby sorrel]

because pipes everywhere is aesthetic

[rapid hedge]

while the one north of tianjing needs 0.5

you can use 2 water pumps on cave and 1 on tianjing

but the 10 power you can save

[ruby sorrel]

also to save protocol I put all my pumps by existing pylons now

[rapid hedge]

yea I put my pumps near ziplines

[subtle finch]

what if our fluid pump kissed? 😳

[pulsar cypress]

Me love pipes too.. It makes the mining spot cooler..

But.. Weird long pipes is not to my preference.. XD

[subtle finch]

i offset my conduits a bit so they look straight on the map

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)b

[small creek]

Translation: i have 0 sanity

[subtle finch]

why does your game looks like runescape

[rapid hedge]

damn how many tries to make horizontal line like that?

[subtle finch]

many

[pulsar cypress]

Mine also straight iirc.. XD

[pulsar cypress]

Not sure.. Low graphics?

[feral plover]

A few of the pipes converge since some of the water traveling wasn't filling up the refining units consistently. Annoying but solvable problem from only using one of the three pipes split from a single conduit.

[subtle finch]

now this is crazy behavior

[pulsar cypress]

Eh.. What relationship between ore mining pipes to refining units?

[subtle finch]

we use pump to save power while this guy uses extra pump to make fat pipes

[feral plover]

Ore mining pipes?

Just wanted to converge two regular water pipes from two conduits that were already splitting water to feed into refining units to produce regular cuprium more consistently for zero idling.

[feral plover]

I don't really have power concerns, that's why.

[pulsar cypress]

I mean, my statement that you tag is about my question why piping far to the ore mining when there's water source beside the ore location..

But u answer with refining..

[rapid hedge]

no conduit life

[subtle finch]

if you need extra water just to produce things consistently, you're doing something wrong

[pulsar cypress]

Why bringing water from far when there's water source nearby..

[subtle finch]

it's not premium water

[rapid hedge]

I told you cave only needs 1.5 water pumps
I get 0.5 water pumps from the left over on tianjing

all of this just to save 10 power

[pulsar steeple]

Premium water is Liquid Xiranite

[pulsar cypress]

Oh, ur minmaxing the pump used..

[pulsar steeple]

Wait, can you spray Jincao/Yahzen Solution?

[rapid hedge]

yes

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Its save for people..

[rapid hedge]

well at least I won't feel alone when I transfer stuff from depot node

[pulsar cypress]

Just like u pour pocari sweat on others.

[feral plover]

I think it was because the bottom left refining unit in the image wasn't receiving enough water from the right-most conduit in the screenshot, so it was always at 0/1 unit filled. Both pipe paths from the two conduits are now supplying enough water for that unit.

The awkward piping and why it's longer than it should be was probably a byproduct of lack of good usage of empty space.

[wispy grove]

whats with the protocol stash

[subtle finch]

i mentioned before that you can do this pairs instead if you have a sprinkler pump, not sure how difficult the middle one is, someone said there's barrier in between

[pulsar steeple]

I love awkward piping

[small creek]

can do in 2 conduit pairs if you use the aic as a movable tp

[feral plover]

It's so that if I ever hit cap on parts I can still make progress on capping on stockpiling regular cuprium while not stalling production of sewage > stalling production of xircon if I hit cap on parts.

[rapid hedge]

nah I do the hard way

[pulsar cypress]

Me love neat piping..
Make the mining site looks cooler..

[wispy grove]

fair enough

[rapid hedge]

the 2 minerals on north are already paired with each other

I didn't realize you can pair farm with the ferrium one

[fervent lodge]

miko did that evil belt splitter thing work

[subtle finch]

that's why you're also at over 5k power, having a reason doesnt make it good

[rapid hedge]

but tbh connecting the north originium with the one near monitoring center feels a bit hard without conduit

[subtle finch]

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. The place near monitoring center is kinda annoying..

[small creek]

5k power is kinda insane

[rapid hedge]

ya so I just connect it with maintenance zone

[pulsar cypress]

I just place pump near the rare plant cave and pipe there..
Simple..

My energy consumption only 3.34 anyway..
Still have some leeway with 1 battery consumption..

[small creek]

3.34 is pretty decent

good job

[subtle finch]

im also at 3.34

where's my good job

[rapid hedge]

I need to cut this in half so I can get below 3.4k

[small creek]

goodjob!

[sharp basin]

why it keep being like this

[small creek]

i know u can do 3.29 like me but u chose not to for aesthetic purposes

i respect that

[rapid hedge]

I just can't give up on those top of the cliff ziplines

[small creek]

maybe one of these days ill be convinced to retire the ecofarm

but god i love hoarding powder

[sharp basin]

anyone??/

[rapid hedge]

if it works normally you can leave it as it is

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Yass.. Can minmax more but lazy..
Just settle with 3 nodes/pump at max, depending on the aesthetic..
Sometimes its 2 nodes/pump..

[sharp basin]

no

[feral plover]

I mean, the only bad aspect of running too much power is that complete power outages will occur far more rapidly, but I don't see how that's going to be possible if I'm managing my battery productions and thermal banks wisely? I can see why lowest amount of power possible is much better to aim for.

[rapid hedge]

idk what ur whole setup looks like
so can't really comment on that

[dull shard]

hello, not necessarily blueprinting but acn someone show me a 1:24 conveyor split design?

[upper fiber]

what's the question here? why it clogged when i don't let out inert xircon?

[pulsar cypress]

Try send the whole ss with the output line..
One of the liquid output is clogged to max..
Thats the problem ig..

[small creek]

more power = more batteries used = less batteries to sell, its just bad for profit really

[small creek]

i plan to get 58k of both SCW and cuprium comp by end of 1.1 so i need to be really stingy with power

[pulsar cypress]

I mean the item input area and output area.
The whole crucible menu.
Dont crop the picture..

[wispy grove]

do you even put inert on treatment plant?

[rapid hedge]

send your whole xircon setup

the one that shows facilites, belts etc

[wispy grove]

your inert is clogged, di you put pipe it to treatment plant or not? if not, no wonder it keeps clogging

[wispy grove]

change your water treatment to fluid tank

is that xircon effluent on water treatment?

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

bro inert goes to treatment not xircon effluent

[wispy grove]

oh

okay change to fluid tank

[sharp basin]

but the other one was working fine with treatment

[wispy grove]

once the inert turns 0 on crucible, replace it again with treatment plant

[wispy grove]

your treatment just cant keep up thats all

[sharp basin]

okay i will install more

[wispy grove]

what no

just replace treatment

with fluid tank, once it turns 0 on crucible, stash the fluid tank and put back the treatment

[rapid hedge]

there's nothing on these pipes? isn't that where you send the effluent one to?

[sharp basin]

alr i solved it because i didnt notice i didnt empty the pipe earlier

[rapid hedge]

there's no effluent input as well on this crucible

[sharp basin]

the piper is light green not dark green

i saw it now

[wispy grove]

its clogged with xirconeffluent, making it unable to go to treatment

yeh okay

[vale topaz]

repositioning cuprium process to create more spaces.