aic-factory

[dire vapor]

Yeah, you don't have to depend on a single game to provide all your endless entertainment, and weekly modes isn't really entertaining

[rocky niche]

find another factory game

[hollow drum]

i wish a lot more people understood that lol

[ruby sorrel]

what's a good factory game for that

[hollow drum]

like i play 3 gachas but only 1 of them requires me to actually play it

[hollow drum]

satisfactory / factorio?

[hoary crag]

satisfactory, but prepare to spend like hundreds of hours

[dire vapor]

Satisfactory, Shapez2, the OG legend Factorio with a bajillion mod options

Many factory style games

Endfield is just the first anime style one

[hoary crag]

ngl I would love for them to expand the sub-pac defense into something like ak's annihilation

[hollow drum]

endfield is factorio with cute women

[hollow drum]

have that as a game mode

[hoary crag]

and we can finally meme in endfield about having to complete weekly annihilation rewards

[dire vapor]

The cute women part is very important

[hollow drum]

agreed

[hoary crag]

like we have to defend core aic instead

[hollow drum]

remember Endfield wouldn't exist if Perlica didn't take care of it while Endmin was AFK

[dire vapor]

You know people want Annihilation in Endfield, but I promise you, within a year they will be begging for auto-clear features for the very same weekly mode they wanted

[rocky niche]

i just remember i need to do lvl 3 tower defense in jingyu

[dire vapor]

Very pointless

[hollow drum]

definitely true tbh

[ruby sorrel]

can we get autoclear for the stuff we have now?

[hoary crag]

I still remember losing my shit when they announced that we can finally auto-clear annihilation lmao

[dire vapor]

Thats why, don't ask for a weekly mode, ask for more content, sure, but don't ask for menial tasks...

[hollow drum]

i only actually use my sanity

[rocky niche]

husbandos are also very important

[hollow drum]

every like 3 days

[rocky niche]

autoclear the protocol space or energy alluvium

[hollow drum]

i dump like 1000 sanity on one day and just dont do it again until like, 4 more days

[hoary crag]

there's only one mode and one mode only from arknights that I would so love to be added to endfield

but the issue is that it's still way too early for it 😭

[ruby sorrel]

both either, autoclear my dailies too

[dire vapor]

I don't ask my boss for more work to do when I'm bored... don't do the same in Endfield, ask for more fun content

[hollow drum]

i wanted to say platformer mode

[ruby sorrel]

just auto farm the stuff I need to build my operators

[hollow drum]

but thats just cryptic

[hoary crag]

aic version of cryptic

[dire vapor]

Cryptic is great because even though the puzzles are relatively simple I like how cute they are and the enviroment candy this time round is great

[hollow drum]

what i wanted was a factory game mode where you fulfill small batch orders with custom made AIC

[rocky niche]

delivery depot?

[hollow drum]

like not the sandbox ver, you get given set amount of buildings to work with

etc

[hollow drum]

no

[dire vapor]

Yeah I wanted events where you need to submit 50k of a new event-limited recipe and we all have to scramble to reconfigure a temp factory line to make it

[ruby sorrel]

so basically shapez

[hollow drum]

ive never played that but it seems on brand and not really "menial"

[rocky niche]

loud players complain about factory mode in endfield

[ruby sorrel]

well we do have a nice square building where we can throw everything into

[dire vapor]

For majority of players its just go find a blueprint and copy it

[rocky niche]

but then again, with creating temp factory line, they could just rely on youtube guide videos

[dire vapor]

But it would be very refreshing

[ruby sorrel]

no one wants to do math apparently

[hollow drum]

most people dont

[rocky niche]

is there housing/dorm in endfield

dijiang doesnt show dorms

they just show us where the operators work

[hollow drum]

dijang does have dorms i dont think its open tho

living area or smth?

[rocky niche]

and endmin's bed is just rock

[dire vapor]

Trust, the elevator will bring us to the canteen and dorms

[ruby sorrel]

yeah can we have a DPS dummy training room or sth

[dire vapor]

This will happen in version 2.0, my uncle works at Hypergryph

[hidden temple]

when resting they just chill in the lobby

[rocky niche]

dps dummy room will be good

[subtle finch]

they need to give us a crosshair for aic, its hard to select machines out in the wild

[ruby sorrel]

I wanna practice combat without a cutscene every 30 s

[dire vapor]

There is technically a training room, but this guy only lets you access the tutorials menu

[ruby sorrel]

yeah those are useless, I was so disappointed when that's all it had

[keen river]

yeah, i was so disappointed when it just opened the tutorial menu

wish i could just setup an enemy and challenge it, like those tutorials do

bonus point if it also shown some stats at the end

[hoary crag]

rhodagn or ruan yi

ngl personally I want the cutscene to be a toggle option

it's the best of both world

those who want it gets it

those who doesn't don't

[ruby sorrel]

like I don't even care if it's a blank wall I'm hitting, I just need something that gets it into "combat mode" so I can just practice in peace

[keen river]

rhodang has a cutscene at 80% hp tho and it also resets everything on him 🙁

[rocky niche]

what i mean by dps dummy room is something similar to that one game stage in miliastra in genshin, because the dps dummy room will show the dmg stats of each ally in team

[hoary crag]

just remember that we're now halfway thru 1.1 and we still don't have a survey for it

[wispy grove]

I DID IT 4.5/min SC battery factory😭

[ruby sorrel]

cus the alternative is like plotting out the time value of sp gain and all that crap by hand and it's ass

[dire vapor]

Why 4.5?

[ruby sorrel]

3/4 is a nice number

that's 1/2 belt xiranite doing other things

[hoary crag]

also ngl, I long for the day we actually get to see fiona in person

[dire vapor]

Apparently Fiona is wheelchair bound

[hoary crag]

surely she's behind that locked room in dijiang's central ring

[dire vapor]

I want to actually see her in the ops room...

[wispy grove]

for components

i mean 1/4 for comps

[dire vapor]

Yeah, but what happened to the other 8.5 that you need so many components...

[keen river]

i wish they hired a VA for Fiona and had her record those 3 lines she does during daily quests

instead of random noise she does

[dire vapor]

What lines, you mean her crazy moaning?

Thats my Fiona daily ASMR don't you dare touch it

[keen river]

😄

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-villager-fortnite-dance-gif-1436708337246404858

[hollow drum]

wait

you mean Bagpipe from OG game? or is this a diff Fiona

[hoary crag]

the comms officer

[hollow drum]

oh

wait yeah she has an actual face right

[hoary crag]

aka the one breathing on our necks during dailies

[keen river]

yeah

[dire vapor]

My ASMR specialist

[hollow drum]

ok yeah i forgot her name was also Fiona

LOL

[ruby sorrel]

she's voiced in main story right?

[hollow drum]

yeah iirc

[hoary crag]

yup

[dire vapor]

Yes, she is

[keen river]

im pretty sure she is also in some main story missions

but i dont think we ever seen her in game beyond the avatar

[hollow drum]

no we haven't

assume we can once more Dijiang areas get unlocked

[rocky niche]

if elevator works, maybe we'll see her

[hoary crag]

yup that's why I said I long for the day we see her ingame lol

[pulsar cypress]

Wr only see her in the comm..

[wispy grove]

i wanna ask

[hoary crag]

this room in the central ring still makes the most sense to me as to where she is

[subtle finch]

we got her instead of whitesmith

[keen river]

what if its a reverse Yvonne situation and its actually an old guy with deep voice IRL 😅

[wispy grove]

[dire vapor]

I also want to see Marvin, he's a 3 headed robot that writes 90% of the Operators lore files

[wispy grove]

Is this 3/4?

[hollow drum]

i genuinely thought "M3" was Marvin

[dire vapor]

Can see why, they both have 3 Ms in their name

[hollow drum]

but then its oh ok M3 is either real Mon3tr or Kal/Mon3tr reconvener

thats my theory anyway

[hoary crag]

because there is no way you're putting the guy directly talking to endmin and co. in dijiang's backrooms instead of something placed quite importantly

[ruby sorrel]

yeah, but you might want spaces after splitters if it doesn't split properly

[dire vapor]

The funny part where Tang Tang tried to poach him to join Qingbo Stockade

[subtle finch]

my guess is kal went mitosis again

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-purpdrank-when-guys-get-11-likes-11-likes-kritt-kritt-when-gerson-appears-gif-11989234036719895880

[dire vapor]

She's still trying to poach Marvin

[hoary crag]

150+ yrs is nothing to kal and/or mon3tr tho

[wispy grove]

okay

[hollow drum]

yeah exactly

thats why it could just still be the same Mon3tr

just

dyed her hair?

[hoary crag]

who knows?

[dire vapor]

It can be the Mon3tr after Mon3tr

They're effectively generational at this point

[hoary crag]

that would be mon4tr, if I'm not mistaken, kal was likely mon2tr, not to mention one of modules is named that

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[hoary crag]

me when no product icons

[wispy grove]

oh right i havent selected the unloaders yet

[dire vapor]

Thats just a wrongly ratio'd SC battery line

[wispy grove]

nope its calculated

[dire vapor]

There's only 3 grinding units for some reason

[wispy grove]

tahts 3/4

[dire vapor]

Ok but surely you don't need that many components...

[wispy grove]

i only have 300 comps rn

[dire vapor]

You'll be making more than you even have catalysts for per week

[wispy grove]

i need artificing bro

[dire vapor]

Whats the point...

[ruby sorrel]

idk could have a stash from 1.0

like I have 400 rn

[hoary crag]

she's so short

[ruby sorrel]

.75 isn't that high

[hoary crag]

I mean tbf you'd only have to do it like once in a long while

[dire vapor]

When I needed large amounts of xiranite, I just turned off my one of my two lines to 50% efficiency and ran 9/min SC, I don't see why you would need to design a specific 75% efficiency one, but thats just me

[ruby lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-prime-death-gif-5432752624659374066

[wispy grove]

dont worry i have 6/min sc battery blue print, if i dont need gears i can just swap it

[ruby sorrel]

well this way you just forget about it until the patch ends and the numbers are about right

[hoary crag]

alright question ig

[ruby sorrel]

and you can fix it along with the rebuilding for new stuff

[hoary crag]

how easy is it to swap production lines in your aics?

[subtle finch]

that's how i first think at first, but people are attracted to setups where you don't have to switch on and off manually

[dire vapor]

Like all I need to do is just disable one xiranite unloader

[wispy grove]

oh wow looks nicee

i just remove my pylons

[subtle finch]

you can batch select and toggle you know

[keen river]

fun fact, the camera height adjust when you change to character based on their height, its much more noticable with Rossi because she is so short

[wispy grove]

remove pylons so that u dont have to consumer powah

[subtle finch]

ok pal

[hoary crag]

I have excess protocol space

I should decorate some places in the meantime

[green moon]

YALL KNOW WHAT I GONNA DO

NO HOLES SHALL ESCAPE MY XIRANITE WATER

[keen river]

😅

you have liberated the stockade, destroyed their water purifier and filled their septic tank with cancer water

[subtle finch]

its gonna make the frogs gay

[keen river]

Endfield Industries was there

[rocky niche]

xiranite will make those places be safe from blight

[green moon]

i shall bless this hole with XIRANITE

[whole sinew]

I can’t turn the refining unit off of doing liquid
Is this a bug or something?

[rocky niche]

in wulfgard's voicelines, he mentioned he is the current alpharion. makes me think that he's only alpharion now, but the real alpharion would be rossi

[rocky niche]

pipelines doesnt stop

but facilities could be stopped

[hoary crag]

perfect

[green moon]

bathe in xiranite and blessed by pengmin

[rocky niche]

how'd you reach the top?

[subtle finch]

maybe

[hoary crag]

really easy tbh

wrong reply but welp

[green moon]

tbh xircon juice is the way to go

the color is peak

[subtle finch]

[green moon]

but u cant pour xircon juice

[hidden temple]

when spawning in some levels, charas spawn at camera head level before the camera adjusts
rossi's so short that she spawns midair

[keen river]

😄

Endfield Teleport Protocol not adjusted for short characters

[hoary crag]

finally, arknights accurate deployment

[whole sinew]

I’m on console so maybe they forgot about adding a button so i can switch them

[keen river]

its in the gui of unit

[whole sinew]

No more factory building for me

[whole sinew]

Yeah I can’t press it because controller

I can see the option but no way to actually press or toggle it

[keen river]

im not playing on console so no idea 🙁

[subtle finch]

try a mouse

[whole sinew]

Oh found it
It’s just called off

Why is the option just called off

Not “fluid mode off”
No it’s just “off”

[keen river]

it has an icon

[subtle finch]

off is fluid mode off, on/off is power

[whole sinew]

Yeah
There’s a quick menu for controller that lets me select stuff

There’s switch facility off then there’s just off

[wispy grove]

To the people who do 10.5/min sc factory. 15/min xiranite goes to the components right? it means 7.5/min goes to each comp but not used originium will be 60/min that 30/min packed origocrust. if i only need 7.5/min packed origocrust for xiranite comp(15/min originium). where should i use my 45/min originium that i dont use?

[small creek]

power so u can pwm more lol

im legit

3.29k/3.8k rn

but i can input 3.29-400 in dige

[rocky niche]

your question looks like a math problem you'd see in test paper

[small creek]

should i get the tcreds

[wispy grove]

how much power can 1 originium does?

[small creek]

1 thermal bank is 7.5 originium/min for 50 power

[rocky niche]

weekly routine requires buying from credit shop

so is good to buy low price items

[wispy grove]

WHAT

[small creek]

what

[rocky niche]

what

[wispy grove]

originium only last 8 secs in thermal bank?

[small creek]

yea

[wispy grove]

[small creek]

it has always been the case, oldest trick in the book

[rocky niche]

why use ori in thermal banks

you'd just exhaust your supply source

[small creek]

excess from making comp

making comp = less sc batt = less orig use

[wispy grove]

thats 6 thermal banks running contiuously. giving 300energy

[rocky niche]

i should start with 6/min sc batt and 6/min comp, then when comp full, switch comp line with 2nd sc batt line

[lusty adder]

is there any website/anything i can make blueprints on without booting the game?

[rocky niche]

practice making blueprints?

[lusty adder]

kinda, yuh

[small creek]

thats only recommended if u have stocked batteries to sell

i make comps passively so my stock isnt that much

[rocky niche]

https://endfieldtools.dev/factory-planner/planner/

blueprint you make doesnt translate to ingame factory

but you could practice

[small creek]

err

[lusty adder]

Poggers, thanks ❤️‍🔥

[subtle finch]

this is what i get with 10.5 if you want use all ores
goodluck with the setup

[iron stratus]

one of my sandleaf lines somehow emptied while i was offline in v4 does anyone know why this would have happened

[subtle finch]

it should clog not empty
unless you accidentally placed double loop

[wispy grove]

w8 HC battery needs sandleaf?

o of nvm im thinking about steel part lmao

[vast iron]

yeah?

Dense ori lol aswell

[hollow drum]

hc valley is 3 dense ori and 2 steel part no

[subtle finch]

12/min sc bat uses all ori, so you can just take it from the same grinder

[wispy grove]

dont worry i already made 4.5/min factory cause i removed 1 grinder there. ill be using the same grinder for comps and battery

[small creek]

bruh my v4 depot is almost full of HC batt

[wispy grove]

sell it

[small creek]

v4 is poor af

[iron stratus]

wasnt double loop it just emptied after a few weeks

[small creek]

guess im gonna transfer them all to wuling and start using them there

for even more pwm

[subtle finch]

i dont think ill go over 3400 anytime soon

[small creek]

from 276 batteries to 960 batteries saved per day

[vast iron]

atp just switch entirely to v4 batt and have a toggle to automatically switch to 1 sc when you run out or smt

[small creek]

i plan to have this 1 v4 bank run for the entire version

calculated the 17 days

[iron stratus]

does retransferring hc batteries save you 363 power of sc batteries

[small creek]

oh im going to perfectly cap at 58k batteries by the time 1.2 comes

neat

good job bean channel

[fervent lodge]

https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/

make sure to use the recipe lookup in the bottom right, speeds things up

[wispy grove]

[fervent lodge]

why da pipe empty

[wispy grove]

its not functioning yet

[subtle finch]

i made the simplest setup, why is the report looking weird

[fervent lodge]

wrong loops I think

this one is clogged

you're not taking anything out of it

[keen river]

make sure you have the proper operators assigned to outposts, but to be fair, at some point, you dont really have anything to buy anyway

[wispy grove]

i just made 10.5 sc, 0.75 on both comps, and 0.25 HC battery i think im not shure how will it turns out

[hidden temple]

yeah loop setup should be different from the final planter

[subtle finch]

oh god, why am i so dumb

[fervent lodge]

i really should fix the clog indication

[wispy grove]

im making a weird comp factory rn

[subtle finch]

i have this bigger setup, am i not producing water correctly?

[fervent lodge]

why do i still remember the banger animated pfps you did for the kaguya server

[fervent lodge]

send blob
or link

[hidden temple]

omg

[fervent lodge]

also i think your dark reader extension is killing the damn images

turn it off

[hidden temple]

[subtle finch]

https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/?id=Z7H2j9n5R6q1g0

[fervent lodge]

select output ports on pumps

[subtle finch]

oh so that is that

[fervent lodge]

also did i just break ctrl+c...

[hidden temple]

I unironically have those gifs included in my demoreels when taking in contracts as a mograph designer

[iron stratus]

is metatransferring stabilized carbon of much value compared to other things

specifically for saving power

[subtle finch]

hmm, shouldnt it be 60/min

[fervent lodge]

backlogged

but otherwise, uh

you're only feeding 1 shredder of carbon into the grinding units

despite output being 60

double up the belts from them

solves fine otherwise

[fervent lodge]

dense originium powder to craft hc batteries is more worth because of 2x1 compression on those

then you can free up your wuling bats because of it

and you get a use for ferrium

[iron stratus]

i've thought of that but i dont know how to do thermal bank optimization on my own so i wouldnt know how to make that worthwhile

[hidden temple]

hmmm 25/min s.carbon to save a grinder and like a shredder and refiner in forge line?

[subtle finch]

oic, it's really hard to find the issue without proper clog indicator or belt animation

[hidden temple]

doesn't seem worth and it isn't even full efficiency for xira

[iron stratus]

it wouldnt save either of those

[sterile stratus]

is full xira efficiency 120/min

[fervent lodge]

yesa

[iron stratus]

it might save like a planting unit or a protocol stash somewhere

[fervent lodge]

yeah it's bruh
i'll try, one sec

[vast iron]

btw, is your website compatible with nicher mechanics like priosplit/prio converge

[fervent lodge]

it should yes

[vast iron]

noice

[fervent lodge]

i spent way too long trying to make sure this works as it should

[coral orchid]

sad

[vast iron]

oh i meant stuff like
#1476003772890218638

probably too much work lol

[fervent lodge]

i mean, do it

set up test cases

[vast iron]

Ill test

[fervent lodge]

can't read up much rn sadly

[vast iron]

and give you feedback

[fervent lodge]

ctrl+click on splitters to see what they're seeing through them btw

or on depots

[vast iron]

btw, how do you use this on mobile

belts

[fervent lodge]

you don't

[subtle finch]

step one, give up

[fervent lodge]

I barely made it possible to view shared stuff at least

but controls is such a huge can of worms i'm not even gonna go there for now

every time i start thinking at what a good mobile UX would be my head explodes

[subtle finch]

you ruined my muscle memory, i right click to drag in game now

[fervent lodge]

LMAOOO

you can disable it in settings

I used to middle-click-drag in game too

and that worked

so that's what i did as the main means of dragging in addition to space + drag

then i realized that the game allows you to drag with regular click anyway

[vast iron]

[fervent lodge]

i go back to game and rage that Z is not as useful

[vast iron]

well ill try later on pc and give you feedback if you want

[fervent lodge]

and i keep hitting it

[vast iron]

you can hold then drag

[fervent lodge]

yeah, i'm curious
I tried to look at the round robin mechanics as close as possible, and implemented "input slot buffers" to emulate "item stuck against the entrance of a building on a belt"

so it could work in theory if i got the priority round robin logic right

[vast iron]

well in truth i have no idea why it happens in endfield lol, so if you managed to match the way it works in game it should have the same "bugs"/interactions

it just happens

[fervent lodge]

so the core thing is that everything is fundamentally tick based

and if something is up against two ports at once, contention mechanics kick in

because of these contention mechanics, there's an extra tick before the building actually receives the item in its buffer

maybe because of that?

but this is some wireless shenanigan burdenshit

[vast iron]

well the thing is according to the tests i ran, the prioritized output is based on… the complexity of the belt from the beginning to the next facility

it picks the least "complex" path in terms of facility variety

[halcyon radish]

wuling sc needs four lines of originium cubes and one line of xircon right?

[vast iron]

yas

[halcyon radish]

yippee

man ts looks jank asf

[vast iron]

if it works it works, ok

Also you dont have enough xiranite

wait no

wait yes

[halcyon radish]

120 is the max now right

4 forges

[vast iron]

yes

[wispy grove]

ahhh my brain is frying rnn

[halcyon radish]

sweet

[vast iron]

youre only using 60

xircon is a 2->1 recipe

[ruby sorrel]

it's not enough crucibles in general

[vast iron]

You need 2 xiranite and 2 effluent crucibles per xircon

[fervent lodge]

that's wild. i'll make sure to read through later

[subtle finch]

oh, glad you're here, i got some news

[halcyon radish]

so what you're saying is i have to double the uh....

[wispy grove]

can you give me the link of this??

[vast iron]

2 xircon is 10 crucibles total

[halcyon radish]

oh actually nvm i see the bottleneck

[fervent lodge]

https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/

[vast iron]

i tried 9 and it still imploded so 10 is the minimum

[subtle finch]

about the spikes in aic report merging, i decided to do more inspection
because it was also affecting my 11/min bat, which was a solid flatline before

[halcyon radish]

god the added pipe element makes it so overstimulating to make minor changes

[vast iron]

reminds me there is still some unsolved cases i have to look into

mainly when even(equal) facility count, so just take that 1 with a grain of salt

[subtle finch]

i found that dual production gearing unit actually produces items slightly faster, this was my methodology
first i clog the gearing unit with xiranite, then i paste the same limiter to the xiranite line, in theory since there's enough buffer, it shouldnt run out, but it did

[wispy grove]

yow how can i rotate this?

[ruby sorrel]

strange, my xiranite backs up instead

[wispy grove]

how to rotate facilities?

[subtle finch]

the only way to confirm is to limit the xiranite too

[ruby sorrel]

but my lines are all flat now since the xiranite is all jammed

yeah I limit xiranite too, but it's the only direct from depot source

[fervent lodge]

R

[ruby sorrel]

so I'm thinking that's the diff

the orig/parts don't touch depot ever

[wispy grove]

where can i find the controlls here?

[fervent lodge]

i'll do the help window soon

[wispy grove]

[fervent lodge]

i hate how udpipe unloaders disconnect when you move them

uh... what were they called

conduits

[subtle finch]

i know it can break some units, but a mirror selection would still be really useful

[fervent lodge]

h/v

[subtle finch]

[fervent lodge]

it rotates forges, but what can you do
as in, it prioritizes belt ports in keeping the direction

[coral orchid]

my AIC can smile

[fervent lodge]

mine too

[upper fiber]

dunno if i will get warned if i shown mine...

[dark furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/mita-miside-cappie-bonk-gif-5673588900063492651

[scenic swift]

we have so many free ports in wuling I dont know why they don't just give you more for valley 4 so its more flexible granted there is enough to max production needing to use an optimized recipe is not very newbie friendly

[subtle finch]

i like the different building meta in valley iv, ore in the front, planters at the back

[frail trail]

free ports are probably to off set some of the optimization needed from placement

[fervent lodge]

i tried doing this for the funny
like, absolute disregard for the port availablility

i wish we had more depots

this could have been such a neat ikea shelf modular type thing

[frail trail]

a lot of U shape depot design i have been seeing 👀

[subtle finch]

1 wide output/input bus would be op

[fervent lodge]

nahhhhhhhhhh

i like working around the 3 cells

well, actually i agree

it would be op.

but not something i would want

i just want more depot bus

for my silly module collection

[subtle finch]

would be nice if their bp code is just an algorithm, so 3rd party factory sim can make them
but they tied it to player id, so it's also tied to server

[fervent lodge]

so here's the thing

would you pay for such a feature

I've tentatively implemented BP code import from the game

but for export it will have to be gated in availability

because of only 100 slots per account

and converting to server format is actually quite a lot harder

[restive lava]

do pwm setups work regardless of which battery is used?

i copied a setup in 1.0 but that was lc batteries

[fervent lodge]

your power targets change

but the core principle is the same

[hoary crag]

that's a lot of depot bus lanes

[fervent lodge]

what we could have had if John Endfield wasn't stingy

[hoary crag]

your power capacity will change depending on the battery used

if you use a more powerful battery, you'll lose out on excess power

[fervent lodge]

basically just go on DIGE and calculate the surplus for the specific battery for your specific power use

[hoary crag]

if you use a less powerful one, you risk occasional blackouts if the pwm cap goes below your power use

but yeah at the end of the day, you're better off recalculating on DIGE

and even then, while mostly accurate and can be trusted, just be sure to double check the actual power output

DIGE gave me a pwm with a capacity of 3.69k (I use 3.62k on my 12/min sc setup)

but in-game energy data (summarized over 1 day) only shows that the actual cap is 3.66k

learned this the hard way when I blacked out just by adding a temporary steel bottle line which put me at 3.75k

[subtle finch]

i have dozens of subscriptions right now so not likely unless it's pay per traffic
it just depends if what the sim can offer is more valuable than the alternative
so far the only obvious advantage is you can play around with designs without affecting your production in game
the calculation is really useful too since you don't need to wait for belts
but once you locked in a design that's only a matter of minutes to put it into the game
there's no merit for frequent large bp deployment yet

[glacial slate]

its around 1m 20s with 9 towers

dont rlly farm in v4 so it prob can be better

[fervent lodge]

exactly my train of thought

it took me like 7 minutes to build out my design after staring at it for 3 hours in the planner

so the value add is not really there, but for power users and theorycrafters it could be useful ig

[vast iron]

i just temporarily increase the power cap,lol

[upper fiber]

those need to wait more complex stuff before useful

[vast iron]

but its useful for making a fresh print

yeah

[fervent lodge]

that said i do enjoy the flexibility a lot more

can select more than 50
can mirror, etc

that's like the entire reason i made it, because i felt very claustrophobic with the zoom level as it is in game

[upper fiber]

although i doubt HG will make something so difficult that you need to squeeze every space and power

[vast iron]

mirroring can be inconsistent since like all the water facilities are directional…

good for anything else tho

[fervent lodge]

yeah that's why they didn't do it in the game i assume

but it's still very useful in the planner because you know what will happen anyway

[vast iron]

should just let us choose what direction the water comes from…

[fervent lodge]

bleh, i like the limitations honestly

[subtle finch]

they're also too generous with the bp slots, if there's a reason to hoard many designs it would be very valuable

[fervent lodge]

it's just annoying to flip everything once you realize you were building from the wrong side

[hoary crag]

tbh this is also why I prefer an array-like placement rather than mirroring

[vast iron]

theres a bp cap?

[hoary crag]

100 if I'm not mistaken

[vast iron]

i just make 1 big print for everything lol

fuck symmetry

[subtle finch]

my base is just the same thing but rotated

[upper fiber]

seems like they fixed the server desync issue

[scenic swift]

I noticed that to need more time to see if its stable

[hoary crag]

I prefer this kind of placement rather than mirroring

array-like? tiled? but yeah it just feels better imo

[upper fiber]

too lazy to revert back my factory though... will just leave it be till 1.2

[fervent lodge]

that's pretty. i like

[pulsar cypress]

Just make each 1 set, then place another one another one if cap increase..

[scenic swift]

they should have made water input line on both sides of buildings or at the back you cant make anything perfectly symmetrical because of that

[pulsar cypress]

Easier for dumb peps like me..

[subtle finch]

you can easily make extra yazhen solution with that layout

[hoary crag]

I have mine on subpac

since I already have my 1.2 prep stash in core

[vast iron]

i gave up on organizing

[fervent lodge]

i love it

i kinda just do everything very spaced out

and then imagine belts to be springs and compress everything into a topologically shortest ball

[vast iron]

Right side is hyperoptimized, left side i kinda just gave up lol

[small creek]

Not bad but, well, im 4 seconds less 😆

[halcyon radish]

if i'm making 12/min sc wuling and no lc wuling, am i spending 4/min of sc on power? seems way too overkill electricity wise

[vast iron]

btw, 9fac 60/min xircon doesnt work

i tried

[hoary crag]

what's your power usage?

[small creek]

Yippee

Im glad that you found that out

and that I also dont have to change my setup

[vast iron]

the recipe doesnt initiate because of the gaps

[small creek]

Yeah science 🔥

[vast iron]

Kinda like the clogging bug

you know

[halcyon radish]

i haven't done my yazhen c but rn it's

[small creek]

do i know? :clueless:

[halcyon radish]

i have leftover lc wuling so i've been using that for now

[vast iron]

that bug
Where 1 recipe will clog another recipe even if recipe 2 has room to profess

[hoary crag]

you're just around my power usage if I run 12/min sc

[subtle finch]

were you trying to make liquid xir and effluent in the same crucible?

[hoary crag]

I can give you my pwm setup if you want to save sc

[halcyon radish]

whata does pwm mean

[vast iron]

my base is just low pwr

under 3400

[hoary crag]

pulse width modulation iirc

[vast iron]

no pwm needed

[cedar turret]

I use origium powder import and use 1sc and 1 valley hc

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch your pain is over

pushed, will update in 1 minute

[hoary crag]

in simplified endfield terms

-> periodically shut down one thermal bank to drain reserves, but will occasionally turn back on to refill it

[halcyon radish]

ah like the one where they stagger the battery usage? i'm down to try but does it involve redoing my sc production line?

[hoary crag]

nope

[halcyon radish]

thank talos

yeah lay it on me

[hoary crag]

a 6/min battery line can supply two thermal banks with some change

[halcyon radish]

hopefully you're asia

[hoary crag]

you only need a fully active one, and a staggered one

I don't really share my pwms since I might change it every now and then depending on aic changes

[small creek]

so when do we send the dige website

[subtle finch]

i dont even use pwm in wuling

[hoary crag]

I mean I would but his power usage is similar to mine

[fervent lodge]

it's basically, you drive a car
and to maintain a desired average speed, you full step on the gas for 2 seconds, then coast for 10 seconds

[small creek]

teach the man how to fish

[fervent lodge]

it just requires mathing out what those intervals are, or using a tool like dige

[hoary crag]

^^

[small creek]

my ass pwming 1790/4900 in wuling

[hoary crag]

😭

[halcyon radish]

unfortunately i do not know how to do either of those things

[subtle finch]

before trying pwm, you need to ask if you need pwm, if you don't know the answer, you don't need it

[fervent lodge]

i'm not even sure what mine is
I just did 2^3 splitters and it worked with a bit of headroom

[hoary crag]

welp anyway I'll give you the easy way out for now

[small creek]

no one needs pwm really

but do u want it?

i do for sure

[cedar turret]

I'm overproducing for outpost trading even while having copium components active

[halcyon radish]

well rn my base is powered with one lc and one sc, but my lc is dwindling and i don't really wanna waste that 1.6k power, especially since i'm already 3.6k/5k

[cedar turret]

With no power management

[subtle finch]

one curcial requirement is your base and ziplines are on their permanent state

[hoary crag]

@halcyon radish

use two thermal banks. your first one should be always active, and the second one should be this right here

I attached it to automation core, but you're free how you want to return it.

both have to use SC batteries

[glacial slate]

thats without teammates tho

[hoary crag]

as long as you stay below 3.66k, you'll be perfectly fine

this is the easy way out for now

but

[small creek]

alright why did u test without teammates anw

[fervent lodge]

the entire time i thought your pfp was her
and then i looked closer

[small creek]

i tested with 4 level 40s

[hoary crag]

if you want to learn for yourself and have your own pwm depending on your needs (which will inevitably change)

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en then this is the web app for you

[subtle finch]

[halcyon radish]

sweet i'll take a look at the documention eventually

[glacial slate]

cos we testing the layout dps not teammates dps

[hoary crag]

just put in your desired power, fuel sources, and other info and it'll calculate for you

[small creek]

well, lv40 doesnt do jackshit anw

:shrug

[upper fiber]

any safe endfield factory sim website?

[halcyon radish]

but for now i'm kinda confused on what i'm meant to be doing here, there's one thermal bank so i'm assuming this one is the one getting staggered? but why is there another belt leaving that whole thing in the middle

[subtle finch]

btw, set max waste to something huge like 500, or you might not get solutions

[fervent lodge]

https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/

idk about safe, maybe it will explode your PC if you build a 150x150 factory

[subtle finch]

that goes back to depot

[halcyon radish]

ahhh

[glacial slate]

also with my layout can just switch the medic tower since no dmg taken

[fervent lodge]

you basically arrange the splitters in such a way that on every splitter it has a chance to turn back to storage
so you're effectively sending only a limited amount of batteries into the tank compared to full belt of them

that's all there is to it

[small creek]

is your afk area really far

[glacial slate]

nah i just stand on those boxes

the enemies just afk for the flamethrowers lol

[subtle finch]

dige should tell you most you need if you just look carefully.
this for example says this splitter-converger layout sends 1 in 256 items to thermal bank, generating 250w if it's sc bat

[small creek]

how far are the boxes

the ones near the ledge?

[glacial slate]

yea theres 2 of them

[small creek]

ehh thats too far for me

i put my afk area in the middle so i dont have to walk much to claim and reset

[glacial slate]

thats true

but i dont wanna waste food

cos im getting hit

[small creek]

i love wasting food

if it means i dont have to waste my time walking like a pedestrian

[glacial slate]

man it takes 2 dashes

and 1 jump

[hoary crag]

this is mine to say the least, but the actual capacity is 3.66k for some reason.

I don't use this for now though since I'm not running 12/min sc battery to stockpile on lc batteries for 1.2

[small creek]

i take 1 jump and a little bit of wasd action

[glacial slate]

[small creek]

i do alluvium at least 10 times a day so

not having to do 20 dashes is great

actually make that 40 cus i have to get to the afk area first

[halcyon radish]

i might be dented

[glacial slate]

in science park?

[small creek]

yea

[halcyon radish]

this does not look right

[glacial slate]

damn

[small creek]

but recently i do the hub for Flow essence

[hoary crag]

😭

[glacial slate]

bro really wants those v4 stocks

[small creek]

Im doing it more for character exp

[glacial slate]

its not efficient tho

[small creek]

and i want a free flow essence with maxed 3rd line

[small creek]

Its free

[subtle finch]

lol, wrong input in the bridge

[small creek]

why bridge 😭

bridge in my pwm wtf

[halcyon radish]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

okay okay

[glacial slate]

me too lazy to maximize the exp

me min maxer not maxer

[hoary crag]

head empty method of putting batteries back to depot

😭

[glacial slate]

holy facilities

[small creek]

Im lazy to dash 40 times a day, but not lazy to do 10 alluvium

we have our limits

[hoary crag]

12/min sc batteries + pwm + 1.2 prep stash = core aic facility limit

[small creek]

i used to do 20 but i think they reduced the daily exp cap since 1.1 dropped

[fervent spoke]

Is it less than 40k xp a day now :x?

[small creek]

yeah it might be 20k now

5k per unit smfh

[fervent spoke]

Good that all my chars are already done

[small creek]

i havent actually counted yet, but im hitting the cap with just 1 alluvium worth

[subtle finch]

i lost all my limited sanity pots, i kept saying ill wait 1day before they expire

[small creek]

i used to do like idk 1.5 alluviums

[hoary crag]

rip

[small creek]

Bro wtf

[hoary crag]

I put mine into sanity extractors

[small creek]

me when i procrastinate

[halcyon radish]

okay nice it worked, thanks guys i'll check out the website myself and make my own eventually

[hoary crag]

[small creek]

bp buyers..

[hoary crag]

and then when the next one arrives, I'll store those as well

they don't expire so I can basically make a sanity stockpile to literally dump on the next reconvener that I love

[subtle finch]

they said there's a limit on how many you can carry right? is it the extractor or sanity essence?

[hoary crag]

tho I did use all of my 1.0 essences to get myself to lvl 60

[fervent spoke]

I think you can store 10x120, not entirely sure tho

[vale topaz]

despite cannot drop power to below 3.4k, still able to place another 125 facilities.
but going to need serious revamp if there will be more stuff require to be placed at central aic

[small creek]

I have a few bps that can cut your power usage by a bit if you'd like

[upper fiber]

uh how to sim the enka, seedpicking not running

[subtle finch]

select recipe first

it needs to connect to aic core

[upper fiber]

ew

this can't work?

[vale topaz]

thank you, but no need, it is more about wanting more tidy which require more power

[subtle finch]

it can

[fervent lodge]

no woter
select woter output on pump

[upper fiber]

already done

but nothing

[fervent lodge]

well what's your output

it clogged to 50

where the surplus go

you're feeding it from depot always

[subtle finch]

i think setting pump to input water by default would be helpful, no one needs a jincao pump on their main/sub aic i think

[wispy grove]

i did it yall

10.5sc

[subtle finch]

pump has no power

[fervent lodge]

but you intend it to be standalone right? so you need to disconmect it from depot output and instead feed it into depot input

[small creek]

grats

10.5 gang

[fervent lodge]

it's pre-seeded, and the seeds/plants don't go anywhere here

[vast iron]

your seeder is the 1->1 and, planter is the 1->2 lol

[subtle finch]

they pre-seeded it with loader

[vast iron]

bro theyre splitting the seeder output

[vale topaz]

my main AIC can fit at least another 3 more cube grinder, another 2 line of SC battery after moving yazhen line to sub AIC

[vast iron]

[fervent lodge]

yeah but you don't really need to

[vast iron]

Wait

what is that even

[livid trail]

you missed one space lol

[subtle finch]

arrow is pointing in

[vast iron]

ok now i have 0 clue what going on lol

[fervent lodge]

i have, the circuit just has no output
it feeds seeds until the 2x clogs the whole thing

once it has, it'll work

simply needs a depot loader on the output of planter

[subtle finch]

im just glad im not the only one
new environment can be a bit confusing

[vale topaz]

20k more exp for account lvl 60

[upper fiber]

30k more exp for 4500 oroberyl

[upper fiber]

does this sim has 'emulate' button?

[subtle finch]

ctrl click opens the rate report

[wispy grove]

i did it looks like meta transfer ferrium is important for 10.5 sc

i mean for yazhen syringe

[shadow hound]

What's with this 512 facility limit?

So I can't store a bunch of Liquid Xiranite in like a hundred water tanks?

[upper fiber]

you can if you delete ziplines and relays...

[upper fiber]

oh you need to connect end result to depot/core

[wispy grove]

i did it yall

i just need to fix my yazhen A

from 2.5/m to 2.25i think

[small creek]

yazhen C to 3.something (just leave it at 3 honestly)
yazhen A to 5.25

actually no a bit more

[wispy grove]

oh i mean 5. i dunno

[small creek]

5.25 is 1.5/min cuprium comp

idk what 0.75 would be

[wispy grove]

instead of 4 cuprium

i use 3.75 for yazhen

its 5.625/min

[knotty wolf]

Guys I'm finished with the Valley arc what do I put in the refugee camp

[subtle finch]

this setup is really producing more than 0.5

[shadow hound]

Is the 512 facility limit region specific? Or Subregion?

[subtle finch]

started at 40 to 13

[wispy grove]

[subtle finch]

i think its obviously because when it switches from cuprium parts to packed origocrust, that switch is instant, and there's no 6sec gap

[shadow hound]

Wow it's insane how restrictive 512 is, but I guess calculating all this for so many players gets exponentially harder the more facilities you allow too.

[sterile stratus]

ooh looks nice

[subtle finch]

it's not nice, it's bad

[wispy grove]

im cooked with this splitters

[small creek]

@wispy grove honestly just uhh

there is this secret sauce where u dont have to do fuckahh splitters to specifically make 5.625

[wispy grove]

bro im waiting

[small creek]

step 1: make 6/min yazhen A as usual
step 2: place a fitting unit going into a gearing unit right beside it
step 3: priority split the refined cuprium between the bottles and the fitting unit in step 2
step 4: priority split the cuprium parts from yazhen A between yazhen A and the gearing unit

though this does mean you have to learn priority split..

[subtle finch]

this is the bigger picture, i think you're also trying to make the same thing

you just set your limiter on the left, and the rest will go to syringe A

[small creek]

but after that, the cuprium for both comp and syringe will automatically adjust to how much xiranite you put in the comp

i dont wanna login the game so youre just gonna have to make do with this screenshot

[subtle finch]

i wouldn't call it secret sauce, it's just basic splitter logic

[small creek]

basic splitter logic to me is just basic maths

[wispy grove]

i thought i dont ahve to use splitters i got my hopes up only to get disappointed

[vale topaz]

.... ended up returning to v4 and managed to reduce power consumption to below 4.6k

[small creek]

priority split is using clogging smartly

you know like turning a 30/min into 10/min or something like that, thats basic to me

[small creek]

splitters are goated tho..

[wispy grove]

nah im good, i dont like clogging ill use messed up splitters

ill report here once im done

[small creek]

i am NOT looking forward to the spaghetti im about to witness

[fervent spoke]

Spaghetti 🤤 whats the sauce?

10.5yahzen?

[subtle finch]

oh they need a 56.25 split huh, goodluck with that

[small creek]

thats why i said just prio split

its 4 splitters, 2 convergers, and some bridges

[fervent spoke]

One full , one split by 2 3 times ?

[vale topaz]

this game daily is 90% thinking about aic and 10% combat...

[subtle finch]

combat is restricted by sanity, aic is always there for you

[vale topaz]

it's true, building a character is harder then getting 1 million wuling stock

[sharp pier]

what the helly

mods ban this fool

[fervent lodge]

actually it's linear

you only get exponentiation in very very limited cases which are just easily cut short if you don't need too much precision

at least I haven't ran into any non-linear scalings in my solver

at worst it's n * m which is still not that bad and still linear

[leaden drift]

Lets go for 128k

[leaden drift]

I let clogging happen all thr time

Strategic clogging

[fervent lodge]

we need a cloggers emote

[leaden drift]

🚫

[fervent lodge]

cloggers and sleepge

[wispy grove]

nahhh, i wont let myself settle for that i want 0 or 1 in my facilities

[leaden drift]

The best way to do that would be to use a bunch of priority belts

[leaden drift]

My stuff clogs then redirects

[subtle finch]

it cannot reproduce the 10/min limiter properly, also will multi recipe be supported?

[wispy grove]

priority belts is only needed for clogging. i dont want clog. therefore ill do perfect splitter system

[fervent lodge]

oh like changing ther recipe based on what arrives?

[leaden drift]

Too much work for me when making comps

[fervent lodge]

💀

[wispy grove]

my comps are fixed, im doing yazhen split

[leaden drift]

Mine auto changes production based on clogging

[simple fractal]

[wispy grove]

im getting there

[leaden drift]

If xiranite is capped in depot I make comps

[wispy grove]

my ocd cant accept it

[leaden drift]

If one caps makes the other switch to 2 production

I can make it look alot nicer

[fervent lodge]

so what's the expected solve for this

[leaden drift]

But im testing other stuff out

[subtle finch]

im simply using the 10/min one, so 1/min component

[fervent lodge]

is that theoretical 10 or actual 10

because counting the roundrobin on my fingers it ends up asymmetric 15

[subtle finch]

both

alternating is different, that's why i wanted to test it on the sim

[fervent lodge]

but that splitter is unable to back-block the converger 100% of the time

isn't it

unless i'm tripping

[subtle finch]

it's stable in game, i haven't seen it misbehave

[fervent lodge]

lemme look at it too ig

[uneven aspen]

😔 i still don't get why the jingyu valley outpost only has 50 protocol space around it

had to make conduits outside and teleport back in connections

hmmm yeah a fluid pump costs 2 protocol each. and there's some stupid limitation about it being only 50 around the outpost

and the tower defense turrets count towards those 50 . . .

conduit outlets only cost 1 protocol, so it's just better to use conduits and then teleport back and make a connection

[paper raptor]

guys, is there no way to connect existing yellow tower to green???

[fervent spoke]

Thermal-Bank iirc

[vale topaz]

so many fluid pumps / inlet outputs, what are you trying to make at jingyu valley ?

[paper raptor]

how?

[vale topaz]

also 1 fluid pump / output can power 2 factory unit.
with correct placement, 1 small power tower can power up 3 pumps.

[uneven aspen]

I can fit 6 xiranite forges and 2-3 yanzhen/jincao farms

[paper raptor]

nvm figure it out

[uneven aspen]

so naturally need to figure out if i can get that much water to the outpost

[vale topaz]

the current amount of forge is 4, unless you want to put future forge ( if we get it ) into jingyu valley as well.

[uneven aspen]

of course I know the current limit is 4

like i said you can fit 6 forges and 2-3 plant farms

so was wondering if there's enough water to go in

[fervent spoke]

But you shouldn't use yellow ones in wuling

[uneven aspen]

hmm i think 7 conduits for water is good enough

6 forges need 12 water, and then 1 more conduit for the 2 plant farms.

Kinda strange it's better to conduit water from around the outpost

than use the one by the small lake

💀

atleast teh protocol space in the valley is more than enough

[fervent spoke]

Future proofing or what's the goal with 6 forges ?

NVM, just gotta read all the bla bla

[wispy grove]

anddd i realized why bother doing splitter system if your 3.75 all goes to yazhen

i have 4 unloaders, fitting and moulding wont get clogged at all

[subtle finch]

i was also preparing for it

[dreamy jungle]

lol same

could change to make it use 3 conduits

[fervent lodge]

ok so apparently all of these solve fine
the issue was in the detection of what belts connect to what with sharp turns

thinking how to fix

it's quite serious in fact... didn't realize this specific topology was broken to hell lmao

[subtle finch]

i don't envy you

[uneven aspen]

belt converger to depot unloader also acts strangely.

[stoic coyote]

huh

[uneven aspen]

if converger is away from depot unloader the 5/min breaks

[subtle finch]

i actually solved that issue

just put spitter behind

[fervent lodge]

do you see any meaningful difference between these two

[subtle finch]

the converger will prioritize everything on the side first

[uneven aspen]

this right? gonna try it out

[fervent lodge]

left is 25
right is 30

[subtle finch]

yes

[fervent lodge]

💀

[stoic coyote]

sad

[fervent lodge]

despite having the exact same topology

[wispy grove]

if 2 items(1 goes to converger and 1 goes to splitter) goes in at the same time, they will block each other, causing the splitter to not split its items

[vast iron]

idt thats how converger prio is

[wispy grove]

thats why you need a belt as a breathing line to let the item inside the converge leave before the item in the splitter pass through converger

[vast iron]

converger prio happens when a splitter is directly next to a converger side

[fervent lodge]

here's the thing
in my model belts do not exist

[vast iron]

In which case converger will prioritize the non-splitter input

which isnt the case since theres a buffer

[subtle finch]

that's what i said

[fervent lodge]

i deadass can't see the difference in that case

[vast iron]

not happening in either cases

both should be 25?

[wispy grove]

theoreticaly it works, but on actual the items just

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message

i shared my findings about it

[fervent lodge]

oh my god it's edge creation order dependent

i hate circular graphs

[vast iron]

Depot unloader has the same behavior as splitter i think…

itl deprioritize

but needs testing

[subtle finch]

that's the fix, you want it to deprioritize the back, so the sides dont clog

or it will cause weird timing issue, and you get 1/4 splitter instead

[wispy grove]

my 10.5sc got clogged because of that splitter problem

but now its fixed

[fervent lodge]

so the cuprium line is the only line that doesn't work

[subtle finch]

i'm also using for this, merging my half ori lane with battery production, this lets battery fully pass avoiding buildup

[fervent lodge]

and the last origocrust line is splitter order dependent

you have to place the middle splitter last for it to work

💀

so this relies on buffers existing

right........

right...............

which means i need to treat edges as 1-size buffers too

Ok mr ai rewrite this 2000-line file so that the edges can now store items in themselves and not in virtual input port buffers of buildings

surely it will do a good job

@subtle finch workaround for now

if you need these to compute correctly

same footprint just uglier

[subtle finch]

i just had to convince an ai for 30mins, it's the one hallucinating, while it tries to gaslight me

[uneven aspen]

splitter trick worked in-game for me 👍 gonna replace my 5/min and 25/min ones which were a bit large

💀

[fervent lodge]

Do you have BPs for all of these?

[uneven aspen]

yup made one for 5,10,15,20,25

[fervent lodge]

send

[wispy grove]

im using this one on my 10.5 sc

[subtle finch]

i think the control port is a half done concept, i hope they can revisit its implementation

[fervent lodge]

it's mad weird

also you can't even reset it

so far the only worth it has is splitting fluids out of multifluid pipes lmfao

[low moth]

Hey because I forget, where do I go to find those like line graphs of your aic factories, power and production such like that

[uneven aspen]

the blueprint codes? or like an image

[fervent lodge]

bp codes yes

[subtle finch]

this?

[low moth]

Yeah I think that might be it

It's just been a while and I haven't played with a I.C too much

Yeah

[uneven aspen]

25/min: EFO01Iao8816I792i5o08

20/min: EFO0158OEEoI59u6oeIoe

15/min: EFO012I455u32a84ieIOo

10/min: EFO010U9667e04iaeE179

5/min: EFO01iOe7754i324E72U4

[fervent lodge]

which region

[low moth]

Also, is there any other amethyst clusters other than the first one on the hill Next to the factory?

[uneven aspen]

na/eu

[low moth]

I'm kind of running out

[subtle finch]

just in hub base, no

[low moth]

I mean, like, in general, where I can build out to

Because right now, my amethyst is sitting at one hundred twenty yield.One hundred eighty usage in its theoretical data

[fervent lodge]

https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/?id=J8z4A5g2z4W0u9

[subtle finch]

the game have an official map online that you can use
there are also 3rd party maps online that are arguably better
https://game.skport.com/map/endfield

[wispy grove]

[fervent lodge]

made a thing with all codes in one place so we can throw at people

[wispy grove]

No clogs i hope it doesnt clog after 8 hrs

[fervent lodge]

if someone is willing to do asia as well, i'll throw it in

[subtle finch]

why are they individual lol, do bp codes persist if i delete them?

[fervent lodge]

i dont think so

[uneven aspen]

well enough fooling around with splitters need to rebuild xiranite forges

at the end of it all, fruit's design works well for having extra space

if i didnt want extra sandleaf farms/yanzhen farm 46x25 and a 50x16+41x9 3 forge setup should work which has a lot of space

[fervent lodge]

what's the density numbers on that

[uneven aspen]

no idea what you mean by density

[fervent lodge]

select the 50x50

it'll calc the ratios

curious about last 2 numbers

[subtle finch]

the 15/min looks wrong, its the same one as the 5/min, this is supposed to be the 15/min or half

[fervent lodge]

took it from that png

[fervent lodge]

^

[subtle finch]

i think they modified the 1/2 to be 1/6 with the splitter fix to compare

[fervent lodge]

do you have code for the smaller 15/min then

i'll replace

[uneven aspen]

only 2 50x50 i see are these 2 and they aren't showing anything

[iron spoke]

sorry if you've already answered this but is there a way to paste the blueprint code into the game after building something on your site?

[fervent lodge]

shift-select the entire thingy

[fervent lodge]

no, but there may be in the future

in a limited capacity

[uneven aspen]

oh wow didn't know this is a thing

[fervent lodge]

because i'll have to create the blueprint ingame on a dummy account automatically

[uneven aspen]

i didnt see any ui for showing keyboard controls

[wispy grove]

nahhhh you do relocating piece by piece

[fervent lodge]

i keep putting it off 😭

[fervent lodge]

2222

okay that's pretty good

[uneven aspen]

nah i know about ctrl for copy pasting.

[fervent lodge]

i think roughly "peak density" is 70% and 0.50 ratio

if we're talking rectangular selection anyway

[iron spoke]

ah I see, so its more like a prototyping tool. Thanks for explaining.

[subtle finch]

here they are for asia, ill try host them as long as i can
5/min: EFO01u8U4uueA4086AoOU
10/min: EFO01I3A5II7i59675o08
15/min: EFO01A7u1AA8I1E5e9ieO
20/min: EFO01a658aa2O8A7Uoe5e
25/min: EFO018IeE88A7E1I0UI73

[fervent lodge]

right now yes
in the future maybe not

[subtle finch]

everything should be the same except 1/6 has splitter at the beginning, and this is 1/2

[fervent lodge]

should be good https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/?id=J8z4A5g2z4W0u9

[subtle finch]

here's my test on them

[iron spoke]

so the 10/min one needs 2 extra convergers just to loop back? it acts up if we just route them without it?

[fervent lodge]

on my planner it does

ingame idk

[subtle finch]

only on the sim so far

[fervent lodge]

2 belts work fine

[subtle finch]

i really want to test this lol, im certain its slightly faster than 0.5/min each, because the switched mat arrives instantly

[fervent lodge]

it should be

3 ticks faster

than normal

per cycle

(tick = 0.5s)

man i really am not sure if i can support dynamic recipes

i want to but

[subtle finch]

don't you want my masterpiece?

[fervent lodge]

no.

it's also sadge because it uses control ports