#aic-factory

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rocky niche
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gold rarity

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makes me think that's the next upgrade of yazhen syringe A

iron stratus
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the sprays are for thorny yazhen

velvet hemlock
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.landmine

sonic summit
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if max you go 2 sc wuling batttery, 1 yashen syringe and 2,75 yashen c but you cant make component, because xiranite cap

hexed raft
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wait SC uses 60 ferrium ore/min total right?

hidden temple
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if 12/min sc yield ye

hexed raft
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is meta tranfer counted in total 90/min ferrium ore yield?

proud plaza
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should i do only one moduling and fitting per machine or is this good... ignore the machines sleeping TvT

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never mind stupid question i noticed my mistake sorry

pulsar willow
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just wondering

proud plaza
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making 2 sets of bottles

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and 2 sets of the

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electronic thingy

pulsar willow
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I think that you just don't have enough ferrium unless you are manually transfering it

proud plaza
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i need 10 and 5 per each

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so i only need one bottle machine

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and two for the electronic thingy

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and it is becouse i feel its becouse i spammed this design

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wich is wrong

pulsar willow
proud plaza
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cus im getting more bottles than i need

pulsar willow
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they will be stuck

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and work at half the speed

proud plaza
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got it

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thanks

pulsar willow
proud plaza
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transfering sum from valley4

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i did some manual movement of a little tiny bit too

halcyon radish
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hey guys, what's the current optimal production for wuling? i wanna do it myself just need to know what numbers to shoot for

outer basin
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12 SC Wuling Batteries, 6 Syringe A, then HC Valley Battery or Syringe C

iron stratus
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or you can do 11 sc, 6 A, 2.5 C, 1 hc, 0.5 cuprium comp, 0.5 xiranite comp

proud plaza
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this is better?

sonic summit
proud plaza
halcyon radish
sonic summit
# proud plaza wdym sorry

both yazhen and jincao can feeded to 1 crucible and it will make 2 output while also only need 1 water line

proud plaza
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WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAT

sonic summit
proud plaza
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my life is eternal suffering

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thanks

sonic summit
proud plaza
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i have everything unlocked

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im just stupid

sonic summit
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wait if all unlocked, are your outpost lvl 3 too?

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@proud plaza

proud plaza
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idk

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i dont think so

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cuz i need to do the story

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wich i havent cuz i wanna do this first

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but its working

sonic summit
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oh ,,, btw when you wnat to make sc battery in future

sonic summit
# proud plaza idk

you can do some of yashen or jincao (only one) making in 1 crucibe with one used to make liquid xiranite

proud plaza
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saved my life today man

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thanks

halcyon radish
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how do people make those modular blueprints that change production quickly? i get the idea but not the execution

hidden temple
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wdym by change production? not a lot of products have shared material usage/unloaders so it's kinda janky just replacing sections of a production line via blueprints

or if you mean changing production rates then it's splitters and item ports you toggle

halcyon radish
iron stratus
halcyon radish
finite latch
iron stratus
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i havent seen many blueprints that make efficient swaps like that simple

finite latch
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you need 2 input per bottle

iron stratus
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if you dont want to make your own i'd personally find blueprints for each individual production line and set them up however is convenient for you

sonic summit
# proud plaza

btw you need 2 ferium input per 1 bottle if not you will be bottle necked there

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tbh rn every blue print is still temporary because we still haven't unlock HC wulling batteriesKEKW

hidden temple
proud plaza
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is it wrong to connect two machines to one single fluid pump

halcyon niche
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ey guys how am I supose to power up my pumps, I mean yeah I can make a underground pipe from somewhere else to there OOOOR just pull up a power line to the nearest source of water and use some of the energy I wasnt using anyway

sick basin
sick basin
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U power pumps with..well power

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Do u mean mining rigs ir

proud plaza
halcyon niche
# sick basin ..what?

well I saw people put a lot of pumps miles away then just making underground pipes to whereever they need it

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for the mining rigs, yes

sick basin
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Well they do, i did as well

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Saves power if u replace everything properly

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But u can just, not do that

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Or only for the ferrium

halcyon niche
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but is the power really needed, when you get so much anyway

sick basin
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U save 90 power
Thats almost 2 water treatment units

halcyon niche
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I feel lazy if I dont do it, because it saves destroying the look with many power lines, but dont you need the power for ziplines anyway?

sick basin
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Plus, you can use it and have under 3.4k power

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So only 1 sc battery used

sick basin
halcyon niche
sick basin
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But thats what you do?

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You replace mining rigs with hydro ones, cuz they dont use power
Only pumps do

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For examole theres 6 ferrium spots in wulling, each needing a mining rig
This rig uses 10 power, so 60 power total

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But u can hse two pumps (since 1 pumps powers 3 hydro rigs) and only use 20 power (1 pump is 10 power)

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So u save 40 power just like that

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Too much typing

iron stratus
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do hydro rigs only use 20 water/min

halcyon niche
sick basin
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That wont work

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Its the same

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1 pump cant power everything lmao

halcyon niche
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I didnt say one pump I said pumo from one place

sick basin
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It doesnt matter if u put pumps in 1 area and then go fron there

iron stratus
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i assume he doesnt mean just 1 pump

halcyon niche
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like place 20 pumps in one place

sick basin
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That is the same thing as if just putting pumps next to mining spots and what not

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Just worse

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Idk what is the point

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Just self boredom

iron stratus
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it looks nicer on the map

halcyon niche
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well you dont need to put power pylons until that place, only until the main water source

halcyon niche
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I always hate destroying the scenary with a huge ah pylon

sick basin
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If seeing small lines and pylon icons bother u so much, go ahead

halcyon niche
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well it does but I need my daily ziplines too, so I was asking if everyone was doing this

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and im just being lazy

sick basin
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No, noone is pulling pipes from 1 place to every spot on the maps

halcyon niche
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btw how many mines per pump, 3?

sick basin
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Depends on purity

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3 if high
6 if low
And combinations of those

lost belfry
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What else needs to be done here for Yazhen Solution?

halcyon niche
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huh, didnt know that is that the same for power based mining drills?

sick basin
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No?

halcyon niche
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i mean more power needed for higher purity

iron stratus
halcyon niche
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tghen it a bit weird

sick basin
sick basin
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1 pump power 3 hydro rigs on high purity
6 rigs if low purity

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Its cuz of the water needed

lost belfry
iron stratus
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and not bother

halcyon niche
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what even are fluid tanks for? I use them to increse my pipe range

iron stratus
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they are tanks of fluid

halcyon niche
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or atleast did once for that lake quest

iron stratus
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they store any fluid

halcyon niche
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yeah bro I meant practicality

lost belfry
sick basin
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No need for tanks

halcyon niche
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OH REALLY? dang I wasted a lot of time

iron stratus
sick basin
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Tanks are just for storing, or as a build up if something gets clogged and shit

iron stratus
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and it can be good for producing specific amounts of water based products

halcyon niche
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by the way do I need to fully redesign my factory? im using most if not all resources so idk where im going to pull some ferrium components

sick basin
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Or if u want to have a tank full of water or xiranite for bottles to use

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Idk

halcyon niche
iron stratus
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if you use pwm then you can try lowering power across the board but it isnt necessary to keep up with outpost and get 58k spare by 1.2

halcyon niche
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....pwm?

sick basin
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Power width modulation

halcyon niche
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oh that, no I dont use it I see it as unecesary

sick basin
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Basicaly controlling when a battery gets put into a bank to maximize it

halcyon niche
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yeye I saw that, it fun but I dont need it, maybe some more forges for xiranite but I need more originum

sick basin
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Forges dont even need originium

halcyon niche
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wait wait am I stupid

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oh my bad I didnt take my unretarded pills

sick basin
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Cant say that btw

halcyon niche
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I was thinking of origicrust for components

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ops I guess I earned a mute or a ban, il take both

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I talked too much with my friends so my filter was off sadge

sick basin
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Not outright just
Dont use it, it is technicaly considered a slur and all

halcyon niche
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but really what did I eat to think i needed originum, I even made a meme about how much they struggled to make xiranite and here comes endminichrist, turning water and bread(carbon) into xiranite

iron stratus
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what can i do with the extra 1/2 pump from connecting all the hydro rigs

halcyon niche
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I really want to know if it even worth it to save some power

sick basin
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It took me about an hour

iron stratus
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i cant even use it in my factory since i dont have any excess water in

hidden temple
iron stratus
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if they were wrong then it'd be 1/3 spare but by those numbers it's 1/2

hidden temple
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ah you weren't futureproofing

iron stratus
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futureproofing wouldnt do much

iron stratus
hidden temple
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I just counted lel

hidden temple
iron stratus
hidden temple
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I think it was like saving 90w vs 130w?

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idr the numbers

iron stratus
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it's not like im gonna do much after the first day of 1.2 so repiping cant be that bad

solid python
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I just consume excess power in Wuling and transfer HC Valley batteries since I produce so much of it. PerliFumo

hidden temple
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yeah minmax still fun, even more value if the power saved gets you under a thermbank threshold

solid python
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I'm around 3.7k, so I need 500 savings from somewhere. PerliWheeze

hidden temple
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I dropped to 3.49k after switching to hydrorigs in wuling city
I didn't bother swapping jingyu anymore cuz I'm still gonna be above 3.4k anyway lel

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pwm starving banks for 15+ minutes is nice tho

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uses 4 SC per hour instead of 90 Bakaguya

lost belfry
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Do I have to feed the Yazhen manually into the shredder after harvest or is there a way to automate that? Plant blueprint only gives me seeds and no new Yazhen

iron stratus
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turn it to water mode

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put in water

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put in seeds

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put some of the plants back into the seeding unit

lost belfry
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Finally, I think I spent the 16 hours at the factory. Can finally get those damn wuling stock bills tomorrow. Good night

upper fiber
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i'm too capitalist to let go of them, would use bp first

pulsar willow
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I rebuilt my AIC Factory for the 6th time yesterday. It doesn't look as compact now, but at least it's modular and organized.

upper fiber
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i'm waiting for 1.2

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slap someone's bp then tweaking it later

pulsar willow
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I think that I don't like anything in this game aside from factory building...

solid python
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Not even the story? PerliDerp

upper fiber
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pffft

peak sinew
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ah yes its blocked

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no fun allowed i guess

hoary crag
hoary crag
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I think I already drained my outpost enough

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so I'm back to stockpiling lc batteries

wispy grove
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i relocated my sandleaf factory and battery so that i can use the free place.

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when i woke up

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my energy is at 0

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what i didnt notice one of my thermal banks have carbon powder in itPerliDerp PerliWheeze

small creek
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note to self: ALWAYS have a dedicated depot loader for yazhen powder

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shit clogged my entire line while i was asleep ICANT

wispy grove
hoary crag
wispy grove
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that was yesterday

hoary crag
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welp

wispy grove
hoary crag
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still there lol

wispy grove
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atleast my sc is now 12/min

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not 11

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i guess the reset fixed things

hoary crag
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mine when I forgot to remove sentry pylons so my usage stayed above pwm cap

fluid fog
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lmao

small creek
small creek
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Guess how much i have now PerliFumo

wispy grove
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alotRossiCopium

grand spruce
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thoughts

ruby sorrel
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can't you feed 4 per belt

iron stratus
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wait no how long does ori last in the thermal bank

grand spruce
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8 secs

iron stratus
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yeah 4 per line

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and thermal banks dont need an electric pylon do they

grand spruce
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they do

iron stratus
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mine dont

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at least not in wuling

ruby sorrel
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well it's not like the pylons are doing anything either way

grand spruce
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nvm they dont

small creek
ruby sorrel
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aesthetics gaming

small creek
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i can send perlica 30k

wispy grove
small creek
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1.5/min yes

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also have 46k green

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meaning from my 48k stockpile, i only managed to use 2k since 1.1 dropped ICANT

wispy grove
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sigh ill replace my sc to LC RossiCopium

small creek
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Just split the xiranite bro

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Dont do LC…

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the L stands for loser

wispy grove
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time to change my sc lay out againPerliDerp

iron stratus
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how much does lc sell for again

small creek
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25

iron stratus
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so it's 8% less efficient than sc batteries

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by xiranite consumption

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definitely not by originium consumption

ruby sorrel
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if you use the ferrium saved for medC it should be the same

iron stratus
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interesting

pulsar cypress
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It consume less orig ore also iirc?
Only 3 grinder not 4 if not mistaken.

ruby sorrel
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yeah you save some orig ore too but idk what you'd do with it

iron stratus
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you need 2 lc lines to match sc xiranite consumption

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so 6 grinders

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which doesnt let you get 4 total lc

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only 2 2/3

small creek
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its just not good lol

ruby sorrel
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it's just not a loss if you want to stock up on lc for whatever reason

iron stratus
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you also have to consume a lot more lc batteries to keep up with power from the extra stuff it lets you produce so it isnt gonna let you keep up with outpost i dont think

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oh nevermind i was thinking of 24 lc not 12

pulsar cypress
iron stratus
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very far from outpost

wispy grove
small creek
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what do i do with 100 catalysts

pulsar cypress
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Make triangle chips and piling up factory facilities..

iron stratus
ruby sorrel
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as long as you consume all your ferrium+cuprium the result should be the same for whatever xiranite amount you use on production

wispy grove
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we're almost at the 2nd day of rossi banner RossiCopium to think i have to touch my factory again for compsRossiCopium

young igloo
small creek
iron stratus
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i dont think catalysts are limited by depot size

grand spruce
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ok so this is best right

small creek
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what in gods green grass

frail trail
young igloo
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58k is an iconic number tho, just like 80.1m

young igloo
lunar abyss
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was the offline conveyor speed bug fixed?

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I logged in after a few hours and my overflow tanks didn't have any sewer in it

leaden drift
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use wuling plants instead of V4 plants for carbon

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Wuling plants give two carbon per one plant

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yup

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unlock bus depot when you can

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and a second forge

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have you unlocked the delivery in wuling yet?

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did you do your three extra?

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refresh until you find wuling

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coolio

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Im also guessing u got enviornment monitoring

iron stratus
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produce yazhen syringe C

leaden drift
iron stratus
leaden drift
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they need to unlock it

iron stratus
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or elastic good trade until you can afford it

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that's your best source of stock bills rn along with environmental monitoring

graceful otter
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can someone post 12.5/m belt? or something close to it but not higher and not 10

leaden drift
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wait

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i think thats a 15

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oops

grand spruce
young igloo
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isnt 15 only require 1 splitter'

leaden drift
graceful otter
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oh, how much this one?

leaden drift
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should be 12.5

graceful otter
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oh, precise? thank you very much!

viscid plover
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i noticed the offline factory isn't choking like it used to
i think they fixed the grinding unit guys

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need a few more day of observation

leaden drift
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my meds be doing some weird stuff

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but thats because im using red bottles on something

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living on the edge of power now

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producing 1 LC battery just in time to get back into power

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without using meta transfer to make batteries

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.dump

marble yarrow
leaden drift
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Me and my weird factory need alot tho

marble yarrow
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also i dont have sprinkler

leaden drift
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i do

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i also need to switch my mines out

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for water ones

marble yarrow
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WAIT NO WAY THE GRAPHS ARE SMOOTHER NOW?? BUG FIXED??

marble yarrow
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the offline shi

leaden drift
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oh idk

ruby sorrel
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1.5batteries/min/thermalbank * 60min/1hour = 90batteries/hour/thermal bank 💤

leaden drift
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ive been online all the time

mint idol
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HC Wuling battery going to be 1.2? Or you think 1.3 when Wuling ends?

marble yarrow
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the 10/30/2h/1d charts all good

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even the liquids are perfectly synced

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(imagine they only fixed shown graph UI, not ACTUAL behavior PerliWheeze )

leaden drift
marble yarrow
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bro is just making random shi

leaden drift
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making crystline bottles of sewage

winged oriole
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Was theoretical yield always 0 here

fierce quest
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in wuling is it worth to make sc batteries over lc batteries in case they add another outpost where thats the recommended good to sell?

leaden drift
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cause why not

fierce quest
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or is it better to just make lc batteries since we dont need that much power anyways

leaden drift
white frost
leaden drift
winged oriole
ruby sorrel
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for a set amount of ferrium and xiranite SC = LC+medC

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just make whatever

fierce quest
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💀alr

leaden drift
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I am just perfect crafting LC right now to get there and charge me back up

marble yarrow
ruby sorrel
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ofc SC is much better for power

fierce quest
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true

leaden drift
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Its hard to say I would make batteries still

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maybe pull a little bit of it to make liquid xiranite

ruby sorrel
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as long as whatever ferrium you save from doing LC instead of SC is being used to make medC you don't lose stockbills

leaden drift
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you need to upgrade the outpost

winged oriole
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In general every forge makes Xiranite

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it's the limiting resource

ruby sorrel
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it's not like you can make fertilizer forever anyways

leaden drift
ruby sorrel
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what else are you going to do with a forge

marble yarrow
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imagine level 4 jingyu in 1.2

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saving bills again lmaoo

leaden drift
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they couldnt understand me having 58k banked xiranite is super strong for any future content

marble yarrow
leaden drift
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they just kept raving about how they have maxed SC batteries

ruby sorrel
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so they're sitting at 58k+80k SC and bricking their factory?

leaden drift
marble yarrow
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there is no "max SC" until you cant place proto stashes anymore

ruby sorrel
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sounds annoying stashing SC cus both depots full

winged oriole
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well I think having the product is good on patch drop because of outpost leveling especially for existing outpost where you know what it can currently buy

marble yarrow
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better store materials than SC

winged oriole
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but it's good to have some Xiranite stockpile for runway

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while you set things up/do the story

leaden drift
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the guys graphs are terrible

small creek
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this is in fact terrible

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bruh

marble yarrow
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lmao wtf is that

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oh 7d

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normal

leaden drift
small creek
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normal?? 😭

ruby sorrel
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idk it's nice to have extra but what's the point of making extra production lines that won't last

marble yarrow
ruby sorrel
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guy's proud to finally make 12/sc after 2wks into patch

leaden drift
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he isnt even max producing xiranite

marble yarrow
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yeah the only difference

small creek
marble yarrow
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(they are still figuring factory out PerliWaaaaa )

leaden drift
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nah they were talking about how they have some secret sauce

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and they are a superior factory builder

marble yarrow
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i think april 30 next patch

ruby sorrel
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make sc+comps or sth

leaden drift
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didnt even know how to change the graph time period

ruby sorrel
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and meds ofc

winged oriole
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Where is your originium all going, Xiranite components?

ruby sorrel
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ya they're just stuck on LC cus not lv3

marble yarrow
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i was about to ask

ruby sorrel
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you can still make some sc if you have spare forges

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does that even work PerliWheeze

marble yarrow
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just max the dens ori facility to 8x

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to use 480/min ori

ruby sorrel
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yeah idt you can just burn them all in thermal banks

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you max out at 16/min LC?

winged oriole
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Cuprium can get refined into parts and bottles

ruby sorrel
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spare xiranite?

winged oriole
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and then you can make some Yahzen Syringe

small creek
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should i do smth with my stocked up mats

ruby sorrel
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make cuprium comps ig

marble yarrow
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max the xiranite production
max the dense originium
use ferrium ore to process into ferrium for the meantime

ruby sorrel
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yeah forge limited

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ferrium is always medC

marble yarrow
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101 LC PerliWaaaaa

winged oriole
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Cuprium Components not bad at level 2 I guess

marble yarrow
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also you can pin the xiranite for chart

winged oriole
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Gonna need em eventually

marble yarrow
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yeah do that but maybe dont sell them yet, just process any standby resource that is maxed

winged oriole
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but you'll want to bank parts/bottles/refined ore for later with the other 60/min

marble yarrow
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im processing standby ores in valley4 😭

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(i removed 6/min of buck since overproduction)

ruby sorrel
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yeah with 480 orig you can only max 16/min LC which is 80/min xiranite, if you unlock all the forges alr that leaves 40/min xiranite you can do whatever with

leaden drift
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any1 else at 1k ping?

viscid plover
sick basin
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Disappears like a ghost

leaden drift
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the MC eats it

scenic swift
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it goes into the ground and polutes the planet, endmin is a villain

leaden drift
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cancer rock

winged oriole
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There's a protocol space somewhere full of liquids

dark furnace
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-# in before the devs updated it so machines with left over sewage can't be stashed

tawny shadow
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there's a reason why burdo muck has the same color as sewage liq

lapis crane
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is there still the tax?

lapis crane
leaden drift
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im saving sewage incase

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we need it for something

dark furnace
leaden drift
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going to have max xiranite

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and max sewage

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and maxuhhhh zircon hopefully

tawny shadow
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I need more sweage liquid to feed whoever made this fording the river stage

dark furnace
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i am using 100% of my xiranite because I am free feeding to SC and component production KekDead

leaden drift
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but keeping my xiranite capped off

dark furnace
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by free feeding I mean the productions would take more than 120/m xiranite given the chance, so I could not pile up the xiranite

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I returned back to producing yazhen C instead of meta transferring 1500/m dense ori powder from valley. Because we produce more than enough stuffs for outpost already without even meta transfer. But valley 4 wouldn't have enough if you transfer 1500/m ori

lapis crane
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when we can have liquid battery

basically oil

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desert map?

dark furnace
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i hope with oil we can power vehicles to drive

ruby sorrel
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maybe cus that's not how the formula works

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you should have a look

rapid hedge
tawny shadow
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you don't need 2 planters for wuling plants
you can draw another belt from the bottom planter
since 1 seed produces 2 plants

haughty wharf
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So majestic

small creek
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nothing

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depot run i guess

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delivery

azure sparrow
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discard PerliWheeze

pulsar cypress
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I think your problem is close to the sky forge, the xiranite output have one empty slot each.. Not continuous..

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Try check water and facilities that supply materials to the xiranite forge..

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Facilities that goes zzz is sign it not working full time..

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One water pump can supply 2 facilities..

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Ah that's why ur production not maximum ig..

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Also, do you have some jincao seed at depot? Like 3-5 only ok..
Place it inside the planting unit..
It looks like sleeping for a bit once a while waiting supply from seed picking unit..

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Yass.. Can off for like 5 sec so it piling up and on again..

tawny shadow
#

1 pump gives 1 water / sec
and 1 facility usually needs 0.5 water

subtle finch
#

if it's for hydro rig, 1 pump can handle 3 high purity or 6 low purity

#

Liquid planter doesn't require additional planter like the sandleaf designs. also make sure you put enough seeds PerliFumo

hexed raft
#

how much clean water 1 pump make?

pallid aurora
ruby sorrel
#

well you see there's this thing called a pipe converger

marble yarrow
#

from 2 pumps which have 1 pipe each, converge them into 1 pipe

subtle finch
pallid aurora
#

Ohhh
Thanks all!

vapid cliff
#

LOL

subtle finch
#

give me the sc wuling seeds 🔫

visual orbit
#

any wuling factory bp chat

paper magnet
visual orbit
paper magnet
#

Not at all, not a single person in this chat has solved the wuling factory PerliStare

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/s

visual orbit
#

sadge

subtle finch
#

this is really not the place for sharing mega base bp
people will happily share their huge creation, that only makes sense to them
and you would need extra support that they may or may not be able to answer before you get pissed.
yt have step by step guide, and bp channel have their own threads where your questions might be answered already

lost belfry
#

Do I need two refining units for that green origium thingy used for the xeranite part components?

vale topaz
subtle finch
#

i think they meant packed origo

lost belfry
#

Packed originium is already there. I need to refine that along with xiranite and shove the result into the gearing unit, right?

#

So, one refining unit for each?

vale topaz
#

for xiranite component, yes you need refinery for the orignium before sending them into shredder and then grinding and then refinery again before into packaging

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2 orignium output -> refinery -> shredder -> grinder
1 sandleaf -> shredder -> 1 sandleaf powder output -> grinder
from grinder -> refinery -> gearing
1 xiranite output -> gearing
from gearing, you'll get xiranite comp.... i think that's the whole process, not in front of pc to check

lost belfry
#

Ah, so the xiranite goes past the refinery and not into it, thank you.

subtle finch
#

this is just for the unit tech tree, input rate depends on your target output rate

lost belfry
#

Gotcha, will implement solution during next work break

subtle finch
#

bro is thinking about factory growth while at work PerliWheeze

vale topaz
# visual orbit sadge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnyeNtaX9eo can use his for mega base setup

Arknights:Endfield 1.1 Wuling Factory Blueprint, the factory on 1.1 has gotten more complex, so make sure to follow everything from start to finish, especially when connecting conduits

Code on pinned comment

00:00 intro
00:12 Xiranite Factory
04:00 Yazhen Syringe [A] Setup
05:04 Xircon Setup
07:05 Wuling SC Battery (Big Battery)

07:57 AIC Rep...

▶ Play video
hexed raft
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no

subtle finch
#

why am i getting skips PerliDerp

ruby sorrel
#

weird things happen when you have no space between splitter and building sometimes

turbid bough
#

Tbh for wulling there is "base" production and then whatever you want.

Base production are 4 skyforges. 4 cuprium refineries and facilities for 12 Batteries depending on how many components you are making. This includes a overflow system for Sewage when you do not have enough xiranite going into the xircon reactors.

Then whatever you want syringes/tea/components & manually transferring ferrium ...

subtle finch
#

i wouldn't expect people looking for one solution bp to know the specifics PerliFumo

turbid bough
hexed raft
#

should i still produce xiranite components?

subtle finch
hexed raft
#

are they still useful?

subtle finch
#

yes

hexed raft
#

would 1/min xiranite and 1/min cuprium components be good?

subtle finch
#

if you just care about usefulness, having around 10k should serve you for months

subtle finch
hexed raft
#

k

hexed raft
south haven
#

NEED HELP WITH THE HYDRO PUMP MINING 😭

subtle finch
#

you get 80 artificing tickets a week, that's equals to 4000 components
0.5/min each nets you 5040/week each

small creek
ruby sorrel
#

I mean at 80/wk it's just under 0.4/min

small creek
#

dont listen to the purity gang

south haven
#

HOW DO I PUT THE PIPELINE SPLITTER IN THE NUMBER BAR IM STUCK

lost belfry
small creek
#

They mean catalysts

hexed raft
south haven
hexed raft
subtle finch
hexed raft
ruby sorrel
#

guess comps are useless then

subtle finch
hexed raft
#

wait yeah snt comps useless?

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wait i mean isnt a comp factory usless?

ruby sorrel
#

well if you don't artifice what's the point?

subtle finch
#

like i said, it's personal preference PerliFumo

hexed raft
#

wait how do they work?

#

i bought one

subtle finch
hexed raft
#

name?

subtle finch
#

then you unlock the artificing tab that lets you improve gear stats

vale topaz
subtle finch
#

i forgor, it's around here

hexed raft
#

found it

hexed raft
subtle finch
hexed raft
#

k

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then i udnertand

#

but

#

cant i create 3 yazhen C or jincao drink/min with leftover ferrium ore?

#

im also meta tranfering

#

the betteries consume 55 ferrium then i have 60 left

subtle finch
#

the pic i sent earlier already address that. you will get +5/min ferrium for dropping to 11/min sc bat.
then you can do flat 3/min C including metatransfer

hexed raft
#

k then

#

after that i got 30 orignium leftover right?

small creek
#

comps are fairly important

unkempt estuary
#

my jingcaos are overflowing

#

but I dont have any extra jingcao maker

subtle finch
#

this utilizes all ore, but best just ignore ori unless you need that extra power

#

up to you

hexed raft
#

wait wont hc valley need ferrium too?

#

oh

#

u lowered the yazhen c

#

i think ill just use it for packages

rocky niche
# subtle finch

is this endfieldtools.dev? does it say how many facilities it uses to create product or nah?

#

i should start making xiranite and cuprium comps

subtle finch
valid fox
#

Did they stealth fix belt speed bug while offline? Looked at my 1d production line graphs and they're perfectly flat.

subtle finch
#

that's what i heard, no confirmation on my end tho

upper fiber
#

how about 2hrs one

#

check the valley report too

valid fox
#

Valley is a bit wavy +-1 production but I haven't been paying attention to those production lines for a while.

#

My buck A and battery storage got filled a couple times and it probably clogged up something somewhere but I don't care enough to check cause Valley IV.

valid fox
upper fiber
#

i'm doing extra stuff so it is stabile for a while now

#

no more tang2 banner to steal our resource i think

subtle finch
#

@final escarp sorry for the really slow follow up, this is my take on the hc bat vs syringe c
i think using dige would make the answer more grounded to reality
basically, you're right on your first assumption that syringe is better

small creek
#

the black background made me think u got hacked by those mrbeast bots PerliDerp

hidden temple
#

haven't had any offline fluctuations for the past couple days this is great KaguyaHappy

upper fiber
#

the patch is yesterday

hidden temple
#

oh that sounds like that lines up more lmao

final escarp
subtle finch
#

my calc is solely based on 1/min hc vs 1/min syringe c
i can only go up to 0.94 hc bat/min usage
and there are also excess power generated to my target of 3400.
so i guess if you have a better dige solution, hc bat might win by a margin

night gale
#

the new material isnt going up, am i doing sth wrong

small creek
#

bro tryna do 1 gear unit lol

upper fiber
#

whose bp you used, fire him

hidden temple
final escarp
hidden temple
subtle finch
subtle finch
ruby sorrel
#

looks like 0 PerliWheeze

hidden temple
#

theyre off right now kek

#

but both at .75 but alternates so 0.375

subtle finch
ruby sorrel
#

nah the problem is not letting xiranite in first

#

just swap a stack in and it'll fix itself

subtle finch
#

that too

small creek
#

guess how much comp im making PerliFumo

final escarp
ruby sorrel
#

I should change my thing to use off stash to as balancer

halcyon radish
#

wish i could zoom out of the recipe cause god damn is it annoying to have to fly around the flow chart

ruby sorrel
#

it'll look nicer than having 10 belts

halcyon radish
#

also what's the current optimal production? ideally with a tiny bit of components

ruby sorrel
#

idk just make simple calculator in spreadsheet

subtle finch
green moon
#

tangtang bathwater

subtle finch
small creek
#

this looks so ugly

ruby sorrel
#

can't be worse than my cuprium comps

#

too lazy to prettify

small creek
#

also looping into 1 refiner 😢

ruby sorrel
#

what do you have against refiner looping anyways

hexed raft
#

this work?

hidden temple
#

if it works it works ZimaDrink
wait I wasn't replying to the question above me even tho the context fits PerliWheeze

small creek
#

its so schizo ICANT

sick basin
ruby sorrel
#

idk why would bridges not work

tribal garnet
#

best turret placements here?\

small creek
glacial slate
#

ill only do it if ppl care lol

#

but apparently no one reads that channel nowadays

small creek
#

here's mine with med tower

glacial slate
hidden temple
small creek
#

i think its fastest for this particular alluvium

#

lots of trash so tesla almost always reachest its max dps (which is higher than beam or sentry)

glacial slate
hidden temple
#

yeah I spammed surge for park as well

subtle finch
# final escarp

nice chart, what does the income and outpost difference number means

small creek
#

tried flamethrowers but the elites have giga heat res

glacial slate
small creek
#

game showing this to me cus of pwm ICANT

final escarp
glacial slate
#

but for example in wuling
my ttk is way faster than kyostinv's in his video

#

and doesnt need u to take dmg at all

small creek
#

i can just post mine i suppose, then u can compare later

final escarp
#

So for example if you choose to produce 0 components per hour, ur SC wuling + Yazhen A + Yazhen C - 1.5/min SC Wuling for power, ur goods are worth 44.5k, and outpost only produces 36k, so u make 8k more than outpost everytime

glacial slate
#

no abusing the buildings to block either

small creek
#

1:16, but im using 9 tesla + 1 med

subtle finch
glacial slate
#

yea i did have 1 med too and ill always have 1 med if possible

small creek
#

kyo's had u running to the med tower in the middle of runs

#

mine u can just sit there

glacial slate
final escarp
#

So if I were new to Wuling, ill produce Max rate to clear the outpost, then ill switch to something with less discrepancy like 2 comp (since u can't earn more than the outpost produces)

small creek
#

how do u not end up flying everywhere

final escarp
glacial slate
#

cos they die b4 they get to me PerliWheeze

final escarp
ruby sorrel
#

wym it's just 15/16 production of yazA

wispy grove
#

trying to do 4.5/min sc factory

ruby sorrel
#

honestly a lot of the ugly decimals become easy to deal with if you just keep it as fractions instead

wispy grove
#

im tryingPerliWheeze

hidden temple
#

at the very least the curve graphs are accurate Bakaguya

subtle finch
#

what's happening on mine, this doesn't happen with 2 gearing unit PerliDerp

ruby sorrel
#

yeah it goes funny and merges peaks for some reason

#

cuprium parts goes wild

subtle finch
#

i wonder if this is also related to their recent "fix"

ruby sorrel
#

nah it's been doing that since crucible tax

small creek
wispy grove
rocky niche
#

07 clues are rampant

small creek
#

someone spamming me clue 7

ruby sorrel
#

last rite trolling

rocky niche
#

with that lineup, i dont get much 07

dire vapor
#

Me and my friend have been sending each other our clue 7s specifically in an endless spite war

small creek
#

lmao

#

i dont even have clue 7s anymore

rocky niche
#

i use ardelia, estelle, and akekuri, but they are random

small creek
#

all my clue 7s come from this endless supply

subtle finch
#

some things never change

upper fiber
#

wavy bulkA

#

i checked and one has item control port on seed picking, it seems item control port still buggy

rocky niche
#

isnt the bug on the belt line

#

not on the logistics parts

small creek
#

item control ports still buggy last time i checked

#

that was pre-rossi tho

#

they even slow production while you're online

upper fiber
#

that report is just now, after rossi out

#

so still buggy for control port

#

other seed picking has 49-50, only that seed picking with control port has 0-0

keen river
#

i am yet to find the use for item control port beyond some fancy filter on batteries unloader

small creek
#

i use them as switches

dire vapor
small creek
#

make comp? turn this on, etc

ruby sorrel
#

hm, my 7d graph looks almost flat now

small creek
dire vapor
#

Saves space since you don't really need 2 refining units on a low efficiency component leech

#

But on the other hand, its just a cute gimmick

small creek
#

saves 5 power

keen river
#

yeah, i guess

small creek
#

power saving can be real shit sometimes

#

but 5 is kinda baby

dire vapor
#

Yeah, its mostly space saving than any real efficiency

subtle finch
#

see, im not the only one pleadingfacesns

keen river
#

i was using it before for the battery switcher

small creek
#

i have a billion space and my next pwm breakpoint is 30 less

ruby sorrel
#

5 keeps my base from dying

small creek
#

so 5 is not doing anything for me lol

subtle finch
#

any idea why sometimes power usage dips?
im guessing some ziplines gets unloaded or smth

hidden temple
#

yeah control ports for toggling material reallocation
I turn this on when I wanna yoink 1/8 parts from syringe line

small creek
dire vapor
#

I just leeched parts until it capped the depot then closed it off

small creek
#

i set up priority split between my syringe and comp, no ports needed 👌

ruby sorrel
#

you can actually do this but I don't want to deal with it possibly breaking randomly if I touch the wrong thing

hidden temple
hidden temple
#

strange

rocky niche
#

pwm?

hidden temple
#

things are getting powered off, maybe when you move the aic?

rocky niche
#

reminds me of someone saying before that their mining rigs got shut down just because the spawned zipline moved their pylons

keen river
#

i think its just a bug tbh

subtle finch
#

i check it from here, i guess its just late sometimes

keen river
subtle finch
#

aic core should be more up to date

rocky niche
#

should i start creating sc batt first or should i pile up comps first and just use lc batt

#

cant decide

keen river
#

it dipped when i went online i think

small creek
#

login tax lol

keen river
#

given how power works, such graph is not possible except for a bug

dire vapor
#

Technically its a discount

#

I wasted time making this long ass Yazen A+C line but in the end I have no space to fit it in my layout

#

Tragedy

keen river
#

tbh, i think it might not actually be the less power usage and likely the graphing algorithm switching from offline to online mode

ruby sorrel
#

is this deranged, probably backs up the crust and kills the refiner if you mix gearing

keen river
#

maybe it accounts some energy to wrong minute or something

dire vapor
fathom yacht
# keen river

That seems like an excessive amount of power usage

subtle finch
#

looks like valley iv

keen river
#

thats valley 4

#

and also not super optimized one, it produces all the stuff instead

ruby sorrel
#

I need the next factory update already, maybe I should work out how to snake all the planters together so I don't have to drop in 50 stacks of plants when it happens

subtle finch
#

this was my first attempt to "produce all the stuff"

wispy grove
#

if i have 6 sewage+ 6 liquid xiranite. whats the total output? even if its decimal?

#

i need 4 to get 1 xircon right?

ruby sorrel
#

that's 18 batts

hollow drum
#

Is 120 the current cuprium max yield or is it lower?

wispy grove
#

dang im doing math to make my factory functionRossiCopium

keen river
#

120 is current max

hollow drum
#

what RDM level?

#

I'm at 7 rn and I have 4 "low purity" nodes

hollow drum
keen river
#

yeah, the low purity nodes count

rocky niche
ruby sorrel
#

this is purely a math question

keen river
#

make sure you are mining this copium

#

and not just this

rocky niche
hollow drum
#

its 2xcon fluid + 1 ferrium powder for 1 xiron actually

hollow drum
ruby sorrel
#

well it's not like that's part of the initial conditions

keen river
#

i just made it like this, at least nothing clips weirdly

hollow drum
ruby sorrel
#

given 6 ea the max output is 3 xircon ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy grove
#

yeah but u need 4 xiranite liquid +4 sewage to get 2 xircon effluent

#

hmmm

ruby sorrel
#

no those are 1:1

wispy grove
#

oh youre rightPerliDerp

hollow drum
#

yeah the fluid is 1 + 1 into 1 (+ 1) output

keen river
#

as far as i can tell, regional development does not affect copium right now

rocky niche
keen river
#

so likely some of your miners are malfunctioning?

#

im sitting at 4k energy anyway, would need to cut it massively to make a difference

#

and eh, not worth the effort

#

especially if the pureness increases in next update

hidden temple
rocky niche
#

pureness increase means more nodes are just coming up in new map

keen river
#

nah, it changes pureness of nodes

#

and those water miners need more water on more pure nodes

#

=> you might need to rebuild

rocky niche
#

the nodes purity doesnt change tho?

hidden temple
#

yeah the minmax is only for current state

ruby sorrel
#

nah if it updates you just add 1 pump

#

cuprium optimisation is trivial

dire vapor
lunar abyss
#

was the offline conveyor speed bug fixed?
I logged in after a few hours and my overflow tanks didn't have any sewer in it

ruby sorrel
#

it's running all the originium in wuling that's tricky

subtle finch
#

can't believe we only gave wuling like 20 xiranite, and that solves their issue
they haven't asked for more

dire vapor
#

Purity increase can either unlock previously locked nodes, or increase the purity of existing nodes.
While we don't know if they will go back and add new nodes to existing mining spots, it is safe to assume based on V4 that purity will eventually all hit high purity with enough RDM
So we at least know the theorectical water consumption of any mining spot using mining drills for future RDM

rocky niche
hollow drum
#

i think its probably the RDM, i bet most people are 8 already

rocky niche
keen river
#

yeah 🤔

hollow drum
pulsar cypress
keen river
#

can you show the copium entry in the stat panel?

hollow drum
#

i already closed the game

rocky niche
hollow drum
#

i switched to 1d report and it said 93 yield

keen river
#

thats weird 🤔

dire vapor
#

It can be because you didnt split the pipe properly

hollow drum
#

I think its bc I had full cuprium stock

subtle finch
keen river
#

yeah, that might explain it

hollow drum
#

When I checked the report I was only running 2 part lines, now I'm on 4

ruby sorrel
pulsar cypress
#

Like if ur pump pipe to 3 high + 1 low..
A drill will stop working once in a while..
Changing..

hollow drum
#

either way I was just checking what the theoretical yield is

#

if its 120 mines at 120

dire vapor
#

We dont know what their standard is quite yet since we only had one patch so far

hollow drum
#

do you guys use 3 pumps or 2 pumps at the 6 cuprium node site

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im only on 2 with splitters

rocky niche
#

so that the water collected from pump could jumpstart while the handfeed water is being used

dire vapor
ruby sorrel
#

if you split your pipes properly it just works

hollow drum
#

what is considered appropriate splitting

pulsar cypress
rocky niche
#

another method is to place water tanks

dire vapor
#

You should have 2 pumps with a 2 way split for 1 pump

dire vapor
rocky niche
hollow drum
#

is it a 6 node or a 7 node

#

i swear it was 6?

rocky niche
#

most are 6

dire vapor
#

Then the split will be in this manner

hollow drum
#

your math says 7

hollow drum
rocky niche
#

yeah, the pump could be used for 7 nodes max

dire vapor
#

No

pulsar cypress
rocky niche
#

you use splitter in second pump to branch off to next node

dire vapor
subtle finch
#

why we gotta discuss this basic concept for too long PerliDerp

viscid plover
rocky niche
dire vapor
#

You need 90 w/min, one pump gives 60w/min

#

You need another half a pump

#

If you are working towards future proofing, then yes, 1 pump per 3 nodes

hollow drum
#

yeah i kinda dont wanna mess with a setup too much unless i need to

dire vapor
#

But 120w/min can still fit on 1 pipe so when that happens I only need to remove the splitter

hollow drum
# dire vapor It is 1.5 pump

the pump on the left has a two way split (to conduit and to the main line)
pump on the right only goes to conduit

rocky niche
hollow drum
#

is this right?

dire vapor
#

Pump on the left is split because I have another conduit to the small mining spot that only requires 30w

#

But yes

hollow drum
#

ill just take a look if i run out tomorrow either way, it didnt really drop even after installing extra cuprium part lines

rocky niche
pulsar cypress
#

Me just use 3 pump..
2 pump at 6 nodes north (@3)
1 pump at 2 nodes south

So even if another nodes appear at south, still have free slot for 1 drill also.
And no need to tinker later if purity go up..

dire vapor
#

I can just add another pump here when it updates

rocky niche
#

i still havent changed the drills in wuling

#

gotta connect those very far ori nodes

dire vapor
#

There's one specific spot in the middle of nowhere I decided to leave electric

hollow drum
#

i think if i run out of cuprium overnight ill just add a 3rd pump

dire vapor
#

Its just too isolated to pair with another 2 pump setup

hollow drum
#

no brain

hoary crag
green moon
#

🥀

rocky niche
dire vapor
#

Yes its specifically the middle pair in wuling I decided to leave electric

rocky niche
#

the middle pair could be solved with conduits

dire vapor
#

Because the amount of conduits required skyrockets the protocol limit

hoary crag
#

and I don't want to redo my conduits when that time comes

#

same goes for stockade

pulsar cypress
#

Same.. Same..
Just make 3 rig/pump for peace of mind..

rocky niche
#

but the guide maker used a lot of pipes in map, no conduits so free protocol cap

hoary crag
#

and yes

#

even tho jingyu valley purity is already maxed

rocky niche
hoary crag
dire vapor
#

I rather not vandalize Wuling

pulsar cypress
hoary crag
hollow drum
#

you can probably just check the nodes

#

if any of them is low they will probably up it in the future

pulsar cypress
#

Why piping far or conduit when the water sources right beside the nodes..

hoary crag
hollow drum
#

does the originium in wuling support 12/min sc batteries btw?

#

probably not right lol

dire vapor
#

It does

hollow drum
#

what the heck

#

do i need to switch to hydro mining for that?

dire vapor
#

No?

#

Switching to hydro is just a power saving measure

ruby sorrel
#

that has no bearing on ore output

hollow drum
#

im still doing 6/min cup gear and 6/min sc battery for now to stockpile the gear

hollow drum
ruby sorrel
#

you could be using the basic no teleportation miners and still get the same output if you ran around fast enough

hollow drum
#

word thanks

hoary crag
pulsar cypress
#

Switch to hydro for more cool aesthetic view.. °-°)b

#

Embrace the plumbing era..

smoky eagle
#

who put their easy stash next to TP??

hollow drum
#

i will probably play Endfield more in 1.2

subtle finch
pulsar cypress
#

*and save a bit more energy..

hollow drum
#

right now I just wanted to upgrade my AIC a bit

hoary crag
hollow drum
#

yeah i meant im not gonna spend more time until then

smoky eagle
#

worth it to save energy?

hollow drum
#

its end of april so its not that too far long of a wait

hoary crag
#

updated my factory again, this time to stockpile on more lc batteries

subtle finch
#

almost done PerliFumo

hollow drum
#

i still have nothing in the sky flats subpac

smoky eagle
#

Woah

dire vapor
#

Oh one of those straight line enjoyers

#

I respect the hustle

rocky niche
smoky eagle
#

My wuling aic has an amethyst explosives line

dire vapor
#

I just bulk transferred 50k explosives from V4

#

No need for local production

hoary crag
#

also btw...

I'm actually still annoyed that I have to manually refill the workshops.

like og arknights already had a one button does all for the base for a year or two now

dire vapor
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Its just like OG Arknights

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The base is forever in Beta

hollow drum
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lmao

hoary crag
subtle finch
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especially content-wise

rocky niche
hollow drum
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quality yea i can see it, early days AK was dire

hidden temple
hollow drum
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agreed i love that i just can set and forget abt that part

rocky niche
hoary crag
dire vapor
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Now let me make T-Creds on dijiang and unlock a new manufacturing plant please

pulsar cypress
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They can just use assign like in dijang..
Assign a char to collect depot..
Assign a char to go deliver the goods..
*lazy player..

hoary crag
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although I have to say, the quantity is quite concerning, not to mention we don't have a proper replayable mode yet

hollow drum
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i think quantity is alright

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they're adding permanent modes in 1.2

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it is still 1.1 tbf

hoary crag
rocky niche
dire vapor
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Its kinda fine for me that they don't have a mandatory replayable mode, but I understand if Endfield is your only gacha, it feels dry

hollow drum
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i really liked 1.1 story so far

hoary crag
dire vapor
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I rather not have more weekly busywork, and endfield slots in wonderfully in my schedule

hoary crag
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CC didn't arrive until well after a year past ak's release

hollow drum
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or gacha related