aic-factory

[spark hedge]

Xircon 60/min and syringe A 6/min

[hoary crag]

nice

[white dune]

i didmt feel like wiring the pipes w the new pipe underground thing

[hoary crag]

^^^

I don't use them in aic since you'd have to reconnect them every single time you move them

which doesn't fit my aic style of being able to quickly swap production lines

[white dune]

this feels funny

https://tenor.com/view/lerolero-itswill-do-this-dance-cat-hands-dance-gif-15634157831569175603

[hoary crag]

visible pipe supremacy

[white dune]

yurr

also

i think u need more protocal stash

[hoary crag]

hit facility limit

[white dune]

NOOO

[hoary crag]

would've added more

[white dune]

i didnt know there was a limit

[hoary crag]

tho at least I had enough to somewhat build that wall lol

[hoary crag]

512

facilities and belt logistics included

pipe logistics have a separate limit inside the aic afaik

[white dune]

i think this is the first clean design of Xircon ive seen that isnt mine

i like the use of the underground tubes for sewage

genuinely v nice

[pulsar cypress]

[white dune]

wats the dimentions on the Xircon

[white dune]

i rlly like the Syringe production layout too

if id reorganize mine, m ight steal it

[spark hedge]

17x18 for xircon 30

[white dune]

oh damn

i think mine is 21x16

damn urs is better

[spark hedge]

Xiranite 30/min

[white dune]

it actually looks so good

[white dune]

ive been using Xlice's

[upper fiber]

if only they let us stash subpac....

[hushed blaze]

Why stash sub pac

[white dune]

if only they let us spray and fill Sewage...

[upper fiber]

so i can place 6 forge easily on sub outpost later

[hoary crag]

lol

I'm actually personally thinking myself as well where would I put my additional forges once they give us more

[viscid plover]

*patiently awaiting for 1.2 so i can nuke the whole wuling base and reroute water mining

[upper fiber]

although the chance for more forge is kinda low.... they like us to be poor

[white dune]

the outpost

[hoary crag]

yup probably the new subpac

the first 4 will stay in the core aic

[hushed blaze]

Chaotic. Even the citizens would try to destroy your factory

[hoary crag]

my sc wuling battery lines

[white dune]

ts pmo

[hushed blaze]

You can still sell sewage bottles though

[subtle finch]

you can fit 2 of mine on the sub-aic perfectly :3

[white dune]

i saw someone was able to do all 4

how is beyond me

[distant sphinx]

you can't spray it either, you can sell it

[subtle finch]

yeah, that's 4

half has 2 forge

[hushed blaze]

Where would you spray sewage at? Aggeloi?

[distant sphinx]

the dehydrated wildlife

[upper fiber]

sewage+ blight = cryptonite

[white dune]

?

[upper fiber]

nice price too, nvm, it is the price of cup bottle

[white dune]

ur mom

jk

[hushed blaze]

Already dead.

[white dune]

oop- my bad

pollute the graveyard

[hushed blaze]

You wanna get haunted if you asked me to do that.

[white dune]

[viscid plover]

lmao im almost at the point to store item in stash again

[upper fiber]

change to tea

[distant sphinx]

imagine if they have a essence farm at the bottom of a lake, and you can fill it with sewage to deal damage to the enemies

[upper fiber]

and sell bat only

[viscid plover]

ye that's the next step im only selling bat now anyway

[white dune]

i wanna fill the 40k lake with sewage

[viscid plover]

7k tea now lol at least can store til 1.2 i think

[hushed blaze]

Time to drown them-
Well but not when enemies heal when you dump sewage instead

[subtle finch]

what is this, minecraft?

[viscid plover]

[white dune]

[hushed blaze]

Doubt you wanna do like that anyway-

[upper fiber]

so smooth now, feels good when it is back to normal

[white dune]

i forgot this was an emote

[ruby sorrel]

how is it not 119

[white dune]

?

[tender thistle]

Okay got it working - for 0.5/m xiranite comp + 0.5/m cuprium comp using 1 gearing unit and 1 refiner - key is to leave 10 tiles space after the refiner output to gearing unit so the packed origicrust can store there on the belt

[viscid plover]

[white dune]

imagine this but Sewage instead of Xiranite

[pulsar cypress]

Similar.. XD

[hushed blaze]

There's more than just xiranite btw.

[white dune]

YAZHEN

OK BUT LIKE

IMAGINE SEWAGE

[hushed blaze]

Just not sewage, xircon, xircon inert.

[white dune]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-plink-glasses-side-eye-smart-gif-11422187893182432522

[white dune]

WHICH SUCKS

[pulsar cypress]

Algae water..

[white dune]

but prettier

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

[white dune]

it glowy and looks like it has glitter

imagine the whole lake with sewage

[pulsar cypress]

Filling all wuling city pond with sewage..

[white dune]

its alr corrupted with red purple glowy slime

what could sewage do

[white dune]

this is so amazing btw

[subtle finch]

can you push enemies there using the new tower?

[white dune]

i havent tried

im hoping they insta die liek genshin

[hushed blaze]

I haven't use any operator that can push opponents into pond

Any melee just won't work.

[viscid plover]

peak performance be like

[white dune]

true alage water is Xiranite

[primal wyvern]

chen

[white dune]

glowy water funny

[hushed blaze]

Lift up.

[subtle finch]

have you tried weedy, oh wait

[primal wyvern]

[viscid plover]

omg leak future ops

mods ban leaker

[white dune]

where Shaw :c

[fervent spoke]

Have you tried liquid tank with sewage + dumping unit ?

[white dune]

I HAVE NOT

[hushed blaze]

No, you can't.

They rejected it.

[white dune]

YOUVE TRIED?!

😭

nooo

[hushed blaze]

Some players already tried

[white dune]

how was jincao water look?

[pulsar cypress]

At least in tank sewage becoming strawberry milk..

[fervent spoke]

Same as yazhen

[white dune]

wait thats so boring

[white dune]

sewage/!

[hushed blaze]

Jincao way brighter

[white dune]

send ss if u can

[pulsar cypress]

Someone tried it, the water become pinky color iirc..

[hushed blaze]

I mean i did fill tank sewage and it became pink color
Cause i save up sewage until if i could decide to stash it or not

[fervent spoke]

Can you dump xira efflu or the other one ?

[hushed blaze]

You can't do those either.

[white dune]

sewage looks funny

[pulsar cypress]

There it is.. The strawberry extract..

[hoary crag]

imagine calling sewage 'strawberry extract'

[white dune]

WAT IF

irl sewage was used to make strawberry extract

and we just dont know

and the game is hinting at it for us

either that or im going crazy at 3 am

[hushed blaze]

The liquid is strawberry because of cuprium

[cobalt igloo]

Yo should I switch yazhen a to jingcao tea

[white dune]

u could but i dont think itll make a difference

[cobalt igloo]

alr then

does it sell the same

[white dune]

ye

[young igloo]

nah

[young igloo]

jincao A is jincao tea tho

and they dont buy jincao tea

[white dune]

oh i assumed u were talking abt blue

[viscid plover]

1.2 for sure

[hoary crag]

you can't sell jincao tea tho

[hoary crag]

I want to continue stockpiling lc wuling batteries so bad but I can't do so until next week

😭

[viscid plover]

you still making LCW?

[hoary crag]

not as of now, but will make them as prep for 1.2

[viscid plover]

elaborate

[hoary crag]

reason I'm not doing so rn is because my outpost became full

since I spent early 1.1 stocking up on components

[jovial breach]

Do you guys use a fluid tank as a buffer for sewage so you can see if you're having sewage surplus or not?

[hoary crag]

no longer necessary ever since reactors got fixed

so I got rid of mine

[digital vessel]

clearly instead of moving my Yazhen line from Sky King Flats to the main PAC, making a conduit from Sky King Flats all the way to the main PAC is the superior option right?

[fervent spoke]

My reactions make slightly more xircon than i can use up

[hoary crag]

😭

[jovial breach]

I mean i do some splitting with sewage and xiranite so i just dunno if i did it right

[viscid plover]

why not just SCW all the way since it's more than double the price but only cost 5 more dense ori (instead of double)

[jovial breach]

Everything seems ok for now

[digital vessel]

it only took 9 conduits! that's a mere 1.8km of piping

[hoary crag]

simply preparing just in case the new subpac won't buy SC wuling batteries at lvl 1

[viscid plover]

arrh i see your logic there, make sense

[hoary crag]

plus it's more stuff to help speedrun current outpost in case it does

[viscid plover]

ill probably have enough meds to sell tbh

[hoary crag]

lol

[white dune]

I THINK U Could if u do 6 and 6

[hoary crag]

6 and 6 still leads to deficit

because I would not be selling the lc batteries anyway

so it's simply effectively only 6/min batteries going to be sold

[viscid plover]

no way they dont let me sell meds there right?

[hoary crag]

the excess xiranite will be directed to copium components, something I still don't have max depot on

[white dune]

ah ok

[hoary crag]

that would then leave syringe A at 4.5/min instead of 6/min

but it'd let me boost syringe C from 2.75/min to 4.25/min

[ruby sorrel]

hmm can I just run farm sprinklers off mining pumps

they only turn on once every 4hrs or sth anyways right

or just turn on the pump if I farm

[viscid plover]

the logic is sound but it will also shut your mining down every 4hr

i just make a switch lol

[ruby sorrel]

I wish I could turn off pylons from pylons

2 sprinklers per pylon is stupid

[viscid plover]

this is OFF

this is on

[ruby sorrel]

I did fix my water pump in factory and got rid of the extra one though

amazing

[viscid plover]

i just do this switch thing and whenever i go into the base i switch it on for like 1min then turn it back off

[ruby sorrel]

wait actually I saved enough power to just have my farm on permanently anyways

[subtle finch]

my syringe production looks like that one meme

[ruby sorrel]

3450/3450 power

too lazy to fertilize though

[hoary crag]

a fully efficient xiranite line only needs 30/min sandleaf + 30/min jincao/yahzen + 30/min water

[viscid plover]

what the helli where you 50 power go

[ruby sorrel]

20 sandleaf 60 water no?

[ruby sorrel]

burning orig cus I'm making comps

[hoary crag]

that's in terms of raw resources btw, you still have to process the sandleaf and jincao/yahzen according to production chain

you should have a surplus of 30/min sandleaf powder at the end

[subtle finch]

it's actually 20/min sandleaf

[ruby sorrel]

2 water buildings is 1/s = 60/min
2 grinders is 20/min sandleaf cus 1:3 powder

[white dune]

gn endfielders

[ruby sorrel]

either burn originium or bring batteries from valley

[sick basin]

Take batteries from valley

Easiest is from dijiang and just switch depots there

[ruby sorrel]

I mean you don't have to power anything until you're ready anyways

you can get things running with < 1 stack

[real crescent]

in theory you can set up xiranite, produces some, destroy it, set up batteries, produce some, set up xiranite again

[jovial breach]

What...

[small creek]

????

[white dune]

i think its easier to borrow batteries from v4

[pulsar cypress]

Such tiresome way..

[real crescent]

although its much easier to do xiranite, batteries but turned off, drop some v4 bats and turn your own production on

[ruby sorrel]

I mean you can easily just mine some orig and start burning them for power

[hoary crag]

1. take on environmental monitoring job once unlocked, will give you an initial dose of stock bills for upgrades
2. use a stockpile of HC valley batteries as temporary/starter power I recommend around 100-200 in one bank
3. prioritize xiranite production
4. once you have enough ores, start making LC wuling battery and replace temporary HC battery bank with permanent wuling battery one

[sick basin]

Xiranite

[pulsar cypress]

Xyranite then battery..
Xyranite is most important thing in wuling..

[real crescent]

oh absolutely

[ruby sorrel]

everything runs on xiranite

just figure that out first

[pulsar steeple]

Xiranite, Cuprium and Originium

Cuprium is more of a late game

[ruby sorrel]

well okay medicine doesn't care

[pulsar steeple]

so you don't have to worry about that for a while

[white dune]

cope

[pulsar steeple]

Copium

my favourite ore

[ruby sorrel]

idk would it even take a week to hit cuprium? assuming you had the quests for it

[viscid plover]

another insane mountain view zipline appeared, you guys think this one worth keeping?

[white dune]

why not

[pulsar steeple]

absolutely

[pulsar steeple]

prolly like 3-5 days

[hoary crag]

I don't see a reason not to

[subtle finch]

i hate repairing shared facilities, would be nice if they just gave us like 10 perma slot

[viscid plover]

primarily because it's not enroute to anywhere

[pulsar cypress]

Sadly we cant go to camera mode while hanging in zips..

[viscid plover]

real

[white dune]

it may not be optimal but not everything has to be

just have it just to go there yk

[viscid plover]

im keeping it then

[white dune]

yeah, but u can detatch the camera from the character ur using

rrrrrrrrr

like such

[subtle finch]

how much power do you save again converting electric to hydro mining?

[white dune]

so u can get a similar shot u wouldve gotten from hanging on a zip

[pulsar steeple]

like in the hundreds maybe

idk, i forgot

prolly like 200

[white dune]

what huh

[subtle finch]

im at the point where i need to squeeze every last watt

[pulsar cypress]

About 100+ iirc..

[sick basin]

90

[ruby sorrel]

I should "fix" my hydromining to use less protocol....

[sick basin]

Exactly 90

[pulsar cypress]

Oh..

[pulsar steeple]

geez just how much are you using

[subtle finch]

thamks

[sick basin]

And when higher rdm will come, youll have to replace some cuz high purity

[white dune]

r yall tryna keep it under 3400?

[hushed blaze]

Around like 200-600
Depends on what type of electric mining rig (tier 3 cost 10 while tier 2 cost 5)

[ruby sorrel]

ugh don't remind me I have 348/350 can I even add the pumps to wuling when it goes up

[pulsar cypress]

3.34k.. °-°)b

[subtle finch]

3365, with sprinklers and zips

[white dune]

oh wow

[subtle finch]

i need extra treatment unit if i want to make components

[digital vessel]

One conduit has the capacity for 4 refinery sewage flows right?

[pulsar cypress]

Only 2 iirc..

[sick basin]

Technicaly

[ruby sorrel]

imagine if I have to pump water up from jingyu cus no protocol in wuling

[sick basin]

But it also needs 2 pumps

[digital vessel]

are we sure? I don't wnat to lay another 2 km of pipe for nothing

[white dune]

ive just been fuck it im usung two thermal banks

[hoary crag]

yes

[ruby sorrel]

conduit = pipe = 4 buildings

[pulsar cypress]

Not sure.. XD

[hoary crag]

each refinery produces sewage at a rate of 0.5/s

[ruby sorrel]

well 4 "formulas"

[hoary crag]

pipes have a capacity of 2/s

[sick basin]

Conduits are 2/s second
Most facilities need 0.5/s
So yes, 1 conduits for 4 facilities

[digital vessel]

now you seem sure of yourselves

excellent

[sick basin]

But u do need 2 pumps feeding

[white dune]

wait really?

[hoary crag]

yup

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

[hoary crag]

that's why you can converge two pumps into one pipe

[white dune]

so u can conjoin two like things into 1?

[hushed blaze]

All liquids has the speed of 2/s

[white dune]

oh damn....

[digital vessel]

I already got my yazhen line going at full, I just wanted to know for sure that my conduit can handle doubled capacity

[hushed blaze]

But if 2 pipe went into converger-

[hoary crag]

I've even seen a lot of people confuse that 2/s pipe speed as the pump speed

so they decide to feed it to 4 facilities, only to end up wondering why they're not getting enough water

[white dune]

pump is 1/s

right?

[hoary crag]

yup

[ruby sorrel]

I don't like how my xiranite layout has these big gaps in it but being sandleaf efficient makes it annoying to think about

[white dune]

i gtg bai

[hoary crag]

take care

[digital vessel]

My pump stations are set up properly dw

[ruby sorrel]

or do stupid things to save 1 pump

[digital vessel]

wtf even is that

[sick basin]

Improve for no (real) gaps🥹

[pulsar steeple]

no thank you

[ruby sorrel]

my water usage

[sick basin]

Bto is documenting water

Like he pays for it irl

[viscid plover]

idk man seems unnecessarily complicating to me

[pulsar steeple]

frfr

[ruby sorrel]

look 1 pump is 10 power and costs protocol capacity

[pulsar steeple]

y'all documents everything?

[upper fiber]

for people doing 12/min and 6/min, no need

[ruby sorrel]

it's better than building it and finding out I'm missing a pump later cus everything broke

[hushed blaze]

Did ya work at power plant before-

[viscid plover]

so does splitter and converger right?

[pulsar cypress]

My dumb brain only know placing - it works - all good..

[ruby sorrel]

nah pipe logistics is practically free

[pulsar steeple]

yeah

[subtle finch]

this is the aic factory channel, you shouldn't be here for long if you're not crazy with excess optimization

[ruby sorrel]

it's an entirely separate limit that I haven't found

I assume it's part of the belt piece limit of 1k or sth

[shrewd knoll]

pipe has its own hidden capacity

[tribal garnet]

why they making us make cuprium bottles?!

[hushed blaze]

Its easy

[ruby sorrel]

why don't you have cuprium bottles?

[pulsar cypress]

Just make syringe A.

[pulsar steeple]

you haven't gotten cuprium?

[tribal garnet]

i have it but

[tribal garnet]

oh

[pulsar cypress]

U make cope bottle in the process..

[pulsar steeple]

shocker

[tribal garnet]

i have it but why do i need to get 50 of it :

[pulsar steeple]

that, don't ask us

[sick basin]

Because the game said so
Now be a good boy and do as youre told

[ruby sorrel]

making sure you're playing the game correctly

[pulsar cypress]

[shrewd knoll]

you dont have to, its completely optional

[hushed blaze]

You just need 100 cuprium ore and that's it!?

[viscid plover]

nah the real question is why they want us to pull 40 times

[hushed blaze]

What's so difficult to get 50 cuprium

[frail trail]

Hello chat

[pulsar cypress]

Just grab the piling up extra bottle inside the facility and place in depot..

[sick basin]

To get tang sahur

[viscid plover]

omg a raw material is speaking

[subtle finch]

get him!

[ruby sorrel]

you have extra bottles?

[pulsar steeple]

Hard pass

[frail trail]

[hushed blaze]

At least its not as bad as asking us to use emergency sanity

[viscid plover]

she will appeared on rossi banner just like how gabriel appeared on yvonne banner for me after i hard pity her 120 on her own banner already
keep myself safe

[tribal garnet]

JUST TAKIN IT HERE

[frail trail]

Gabriel?

[shrewd knoll]

you can just break the belt and let it stockpile inside the moulder and grab it

[frail trail]

Who the hell is gabriel 😭

[viscid plover]

angelika

[subtle finch]

i didn't know transport belt have a take all button i keep replacing it

[tribal garnet]

lol

[viscid plover]

insane follow up of a msg

[subtle finch]

don't call me out

[viscid plover]

just a lil tease

[small creek]

get him@

[upper fiber]

i hope the new reactor can function outside of pac as well

[distant sphinx]

Bloody factory replacing our jobs

[jovial breach]

@graceful wraith hmm can you give me more context on what you're trying to do

is pwm what you want to do ?

aka dige

[graceful wraith]

Bruh nothing that advanced, I just want it to be 1 battery/40s inside thermal, so it never stacks up in there

Which is why I diverted it into 4 belts. For example, 1 battery cost 10s. Thermal uses up 1 battery/40s

[jovial breach]

and what if it stacks up in there

it's still 40s per battery

[graceful wraith]

I can't sell it I think

Dunno if battery inside thermals count towards stockpile when selling tbh

[jovial breach]

it's still 40s a battery

[graceful wraith]

If it does, then what I did doesn't really matter

[subtle finch]

this dude is the ultimate minmaxxer

[graceful wraith]

Yea that's the gist of the problem, I dunno if batteries inside thermal counts towards stockpile when selling

[small creek]

idt it does

[jovial breach]

[small creek]

if its not in the depot, its not counted

[jovial breach]

man did not get it

a thermal with 50 battery inside is still only using a battery every 40s

compared to a thermal with 1 bettery

[graceful wraith]

Yea but when I sell, I have to pull out 50 batteries

[small creek]

you really dont

[jovial breach]

why...

[graceful wraith]

I wanna sell it all

[small creek]

your usage is a flat 1.5/min unless u do pwm

no matter how many goes in/stays in

[subtle finch]

you need 1/20 splitter

[small creek]

in other words, you will practically have the same amt of batteries to sell with both approaches

[graceful wraith]

No no I understand what y'all getting at, a thermal max stock is 50, so after that, everything else goes inside depot

[small creek]

yes

[graceful wraith]

I just don't wanna see batteries stacking inside thermal, that's all

[jovial breach]

this man

[small creek]

u know if u do pwm youll never have extra batts in the thermal lol

gets u more batt in the long run too

[jovial breach]

or just reduce ur usage below 3.4k power

not that hard

[small creek]

im running 3.29k rn

[tepid wigeon]

I just have my two batteries feeding 1 thermal every 50s one every 120s, running at 3.6k power

[small creek]

can reduce 120 more but like

thats my ecofarm..

[jovial breach]

if you are making component, you actually can get more power from using the excess ori

kinda funny

[small creek]

yeap

[tepid wigeon]

As long as you're making enough bats to buy out stock it doesn't really matter either

[small creek]

3.29/3.8

so when i input the value in pwm, i do 3.29-0.4

[jovial breach]

im at 3.6k

4 ori banks

[tepid wigeon]

are you making half a bat?

with other ori?

[small creek]

yes but my tinfoil hat wants to save batt for 1.2

[tepid wigeon]

1.2 we get HC wuling bat and they just become fodder

[jovial breach]

no i make component with that

[tepid wigeon]

ori isn't used in component tho

[small creek]

the humble xiranite

[jovial breach]

the green one

[vast iron]

Older one

Takes packed crust

[tepid wigeon]

oh right

I stopped making those after getting 58k still have 55k 💀

[vast iron]

Im at 39k

[jovial breach]

making xiracomp at 0.25/min and cupcomp at 0.5

[small creek]

meanwhile my ass wanna make 80k+58k

[tepid wigeon]

w/ 600 artificing stuff only need 30k to use all + like 1k for base gearing a team

so way overdone

[small creek]

i am aware

[tepid wigeon]

just a hoarder

which isn't bad in this

[small creek]

yep lol

[tribal garnet]

.events

[small creek]

hoarding batt, hoarding comp, hoarding whatever i can hoard on this moon

[jovial breach]

not artificing at all is crazy

[small creek]

okay i artifice tho

what do u think of me

[tepid wigeon]

I have most my gear at line3 artifice and yvonne main line1s

Saving for Fangyi release

gonna max her

[jovial breach]

but yes im hoarding for rossi

[small creek]

full artifice lae and phys team

[jovial breach]

gonna max artifice day 1

with 240 catalysts hopefully

[tepid wigeon]

if you get lucky on artificing yah

[jovial breach]

wait do i even have the money to use them all

[tepid wigeon]

takes 450ish artifce on full pity

[jovial breach]

[digital vessel]

currently pumping all of qingbos dookie 2km north towards Wuling xD

[viscid plover]

hey I was looking at it

[digital vessel]

guys I want to know if I have just hit the limit of what the fluid sim is able to calculate because in theory this should work right?
I recreated my main PAC pipe layout in small cause it is too large for one screenshot. green ends in a farm and red in a crucible for xirantie water.

[shell bloom]

I'll have to tear down the whole factory which I made because I made 1 mistake and now I can't find it 😭😭😭😭

[digital vessel]

nvm looks like the system stabilized itself???

[ruby sorrel]

well if you wait until the earlier stuff fill with water it should eventually work

[dark furnace]

just got back home to screenshot mine

[subtle finch]

i just had the same setup, in theory it should, but man, and the last 2 kept draining randomly.
if you can, try split them evenly. 3 splitter in series would still produce the same output, but for some reason my aic report was showing weird results

[digital vessel]

trying to back up the pipes rn to see if they just needed some "priming"

[subtle finch]

i filled it all with water before starting, and the last 2 kept dropping

weird af

[ruby sorrel]

hmm yeah could be spotty offline cus the crucible section only gets 1/s nominally

[subtle finch]

it happened online

[dark furnace]

in theory it works, but in practice pipes don't like distributing evenly when you are splitting them in series, as the first few intake will consume the water that is supposed to deliver to the latter ones

[ruby sorrel]

the final 2 crucibles will only have 0.25/s? it'll have lag and probs lose water over time somehow

[tepid wigeon]

Because of the way splitters split, the bottom two are only getting 1/8th and 1/16th water, so they'll eventually slow to dropping

[digital vessel]

if it keeps being a pain I'll just switch to this, that'll work right?

[dark furnace]

this, and as the first few can't take as many in time, eventually the pump will clog

[subtle finch]

that's exactly what happened with mine, but somehow constant xircon* production. even though my forge are lagging behind

[ruby sorrel]

xircon seems to be producing slightly faster than orig now

so that might be how it works

[tepid wigeon]

here's a bad mspaint count of how the water will split (didn't do right side first half cause it's a mirror of left

[digital vessel]

when tf are they gonna fix this, it's like the splitters count like normal belt splitters when liquids should be taking the path of least resistance

[tepid wigeon]

no that's how belt splitters would work too

[ruby sorrel]

yeah liquids just move 1 unit at a time

there's no fractions in this game

that's just a convenient avg we talk about

[subtle finch]

here's the weird stuff i mentioned happening

[tepid wigeon]

You need to make the water split evenly and not have it keep splitting off the main path, cause every split halves the main path

[subtle finch]

the system is as simple as it can be

[ruby sorrel]

it'd work reliably if you don't split it too far I think

[tepid wigeon]

There's a way to do it very similar to that but split it more evenly

gimme a minute to draft it

[digital vessel]

Wait so my furnaces also act like this?

[ruby sorrel]

looks like it

[tepid wigeon]

yes but also because the 1s will eventually clog up it'll send more to the others, you're fine at that split

[digital vessel]

WTF IS THE POINT OF FLUID PIPES IF THE FLUIDS DON'T FLOW FLUIDILY

[tepid wigeon]

if you get to lower splits like 1/8 and 1/16 you'll run out

[ruby sorrel]

1/4 is better than 1/8 split though

[subtle finch]

the weird part is i have identical system, sometimes it happens on the left, sometimes its the right. placing the pipes again fixes it, then it randomly breaks again

[ruby sorrel]

I mean I had a crucible randomly stop producing liquid xiranite cus I swapped from jincao to yazhen solution

stuff is just buggy

[subtle finch]

i dont trust flow manifold in this game unless you got excess input

[digital vessel]

well, I'm not seeing any decrease in clean water after filling my system to the brim, I'll just see if by tomorrow my water pipes have drained or not 🤷‍♂️

[dreamy jungle]

Maybe because you're capped on xira, try selling a few and see if it's still like that

[tepid wigeon]

Something like this will split water evenly

[subtle finch]

my xiranite don't even go to depot, you can see on the pic. it's linked directly to the reactor

[tepid wigeon]

Just pre-fill it a bit first

[subtle finch]

everything is 100% full

i start with everything preclog

then fluid slowly drains in reactor

when it reach 0, i get that weird aic report

[tepid wigeon]

Something is clogging your liquid xiranite

or making it not be utilized at max eff

[subtle finch]

it's just that weird series splitter, after making it even, it never happened again

[dreamy jungle]

Weird

[shut rover]

There will be a time where we'll get pipe pump

[scenic swift]

the water is basically doing this if the endpoints have tanks that need to be filled

[sick basin]

What in the fuck

[shut rover]

Unlike hydro rigs that takes 1 every 3 seconds its not possible to water all of them that takes 1 every 2 second

[jovial breach]

what this

[scenic swift]

hmm yeah cause the water doesnt split

[shut rover]

Wait until we get gasses production

[fluid fog]

Thats vertically piping, but unfortunately endfield doesn't work like that, like conveyor belt but a stretch storage transfer.

[scenic swift]

its not exactly the same but it will keep filing a tank thats first in line until its full, not evenly with all tanks

but thats only if you keep splitting a single line

[fluid fog]

exactly what am trying to say or I miss the word. anyway they should improve its physics.

[scenic swift]

thats probably as good as it gets cause they arent going to divide a unit of water

[subtle finch]

i think they could easily fix it by speeding up belts and pipes by 1%

heck, why not 1000%, you're bottlenecked by the production output anyway

i hate waiting for long belts

[ruby sorrel]

we should have catapaults instead of belts

[scenic swift]

because what you want for it to be even is 4 tanks would split 1 unit of water into 0.25 and get 0.25 each until it makes 1 unit of water for all of them at the same time
but the way it is you can only fill 1/0/0/0 1 unit of water can never be split into 4 at the same time, you need to have at least 4 units for 4 tanks.

[tepid wigeon]

Water does flow faster than belts though

[scenic swift]

also we can teleport resources to depot so they could just teleport resources from depot to production, you wouldnt need any belts

yeah water is up to 4x faster then belts already

[coral orchid]

wth with this value

[scenic swift]

offline taxes

[vast iron]

normal

[coral orchid]

[pulsar cypress]

[unreal crater]

That seems to be due to lacking water or smth.
Try to overfill your facilities that need water

[young igloo]

get taxed

[vast iron]

belt tax behavior

the only way to fix it is to add 1 belt to every single output

good luck lol

[pulsar cypress]

Mail in:
Good citizens, we received ur tax payment..
Continue the good work..

Wuling Tax Dept

[vast iron]

fangyi zhuang needs ur xiranite

Pay up

[upper fiber]

i offer them the raw stuff instead of end product

[young igloo]

i accidentally dump allat stuff in qingbo lakes

[scenic swift]

sneaky chubby lung sneaks into your factory while offline and eats some resources

[dreamy jungle]

Sorry for the ping, but I'm curious. Will it also happen if you use just one splitter for forge and the 2 reactors?

[scenic swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1484059619625271296/IMG_4487.gif

[subtle finch]

i have not tested that, sorry

[upper fiber]

1 splitter to 4 places?

[dreamy jungle]

3

[vast iron]

i mean there wouldnt be full uptime, no?

[jagged swallow]

guys which 1.1 blueprint should i follow

[vast iron]

Unless you mean water?

[small creek]

there would be about 10 ppl saying mine

[dreamy jungle]

Water

[subtle finch]

youtube guide

[small creek]

me included

[ruby sorrel]

it's k just make your own

[vast iron]

runnable if both xiranite reactors arent also making any plant solutions

[young igloo]

anything that make 12 sc and 6 med A

[vast iron]

max 1 solution 2 xiran 1 forge

[jagged swallow]

for wuling no idea but is min max blueprint good one?

[young igloo]

#1461542035617091681 check some of these

[small creek]

im on the highway

[pulsar cypress]

The one u like..

[young igloo]

nah dont follow what you dont understand

[vast iron]

I can share my full base ig

[young igloo]

saw a dude splitting battery and still wondering why does his aic broke

[dreamy jungle]

They got weird values because of the way they split water

[jagged swallow]

hmm idk as i dont really have time to built one so...

[small creek]

gonna share mine anyway 🤷
#1485484253687840838

https://klipy.com/gifs/basketball-meme

[vast iron]

doesnt really matter if they all clog itl distribute evenly

[young igloo]

and power consumtion in each account is different also

[small creek]

still on the highway

[subtle finch]

yt guides will tell you everything more clearly, required mining beds, conduit connections, pumps, etc.
most blueprint post assumes you have everything that's needed

[jagged swallow]

hmmmm look very compact XD

[young igloo]

just try some and stash all if you dont like it

[dreamy jungle]

I know, so maybe something up with reactor

[young igloo]

we are here to help too

[pulsar cypress]

What I mean by like is the one u can understand easier..
Coz we have piping now..

If u don't really understand, after u use bp u will back here asking why it not working or why the water clogging..

[young igloo]

it look spaghetti

[vast iron]

I remember they said smt about producing jincao solution both or smt

[small creek]

i had to sacrifice aesthetic for power efficient and easy configure

[vast iron]

if not it should work idk

assuming 2 pump

[small creek]

maybe next version ill try to make it pretty

[jagged swallow]

water clogging is fine as i barely got that i just dislike pipe but i just somehow do it T_T

[subtle finch]

this is not the case even though its supposed to be

[young igloo]

im showing mine too if ur interesting

[vast iron]

spaghetti = either super advanced high tech or chen

[small creek]

iirc Hikarin has a part of their base that does something similar to mine but actually looks nice

[vast iron]

interesting

[dreamy jungle]

its this (copied image they sent)

[small creek]

Oh ive seen this a few times here, pretty nice

Not power efficient though, i must say

[vast iron]

i mean theyre already splittering the pipe at the right too

[young igloo]

yeah im at 4k2 power rn including yazhen A and C

[dreamy jungle]

yeah i know, weird

[small creek]

do u have all turrets connected too?

im at 3.29k

[subtle finch]

this is my setup, completely symmetrical. sometimes it happens to the left or right
started with all crucible and forge full of water. then crucible slowly drains of water

the only correct fact is water will keep going, even though crucibles are showing Zzz, it's still running at full speed. xircon is not slowing down
the weird bug is xiranite line is clogging up because there's technically no water, and that's what's reflected in aic report

[pulsar cypress]

You can try some that in blueprint channel, and see which one u prefer..
The one with less pipes installation maybe..

[young igloo]

yes with zipline and turret

[small creek]

yea turret will eat a lot

[young igloo]

i havent change to hydraulic rig too

i even use mk2 on originium mine

[small creek]

bro..

[vast iron]

waht

[young igloo]

yes, all my wuling originium use mk2

[unreal laurel]

How's glorious memory on endmin

[small creek]

bro does not care abt power 🥀

[scenic swift]

you thought just water pipe was bad wait until they add fluid mixing to the game, you must have the correct ratio ratio or the recipe wont work

[vast iron]

is it only offline?

[subtle finch]

it's online

[vast iron]

huhhh

oke

[young igloo]

theres already like 8 different liquid rn

[dreamy jungle]

yeah idk, manifold should work though, since im using it in many places

[vast iron]

do all of them empty out or like some of them clog and some empty

[young igloo]

and arent crucible already doing the mixing thing?

[scenic swift]

at least currently if 2 different fluid enter a pipe they cant mix

im just saying what if they could

[vast iron]

waiting for a 4->1 crucible recipe kek

[young igloo]

sewage and xiranite liquid saying the different

at least we dont have more liquid + liquid formula

[vast iron]

Just wait till they combine yazhen and jincao into like jinzhen or smt

[young igloo]

and it still have 2 input so we must use converger lmao

[subtle finch]

the forge are clogged with water, the crucible slowly drains from full. which shouldn't happen

[vast iron]

[vast iron]

so forges are clogged

huhh

[pulsar cypress]

[young igloo]

atp just let me plant a lemon tree

[vast iron]

Well the only explanation is if somehow

[young igloo]

xiranite lemonade sound cool

[vast iron]

reactor crucible is getting more xiranite than forge

or

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[vast iron]

Somehow water pipe cant actually handle 2/s and its like

1.99/s

[young igloo]

just realized each crucible consume 50 power

greedy fucas facility

[subtle finch]

just for you guys, ill return to the broken setup, and record it happen

[vast iron]

the humble water treamtent:

[young igloo]

how much does it consume btw?

[scenic swift]

but if you split them evenly it works fine so water pipe must be able to 2.0

[young igloo]

fucas facilities

[unreal laurel]

How's glorious memory for endmin

[vast iron]

tank u :3

[young igloo]

do i go 2 water treatment for 2 sewage or i just need 1 ?

[vast iron]

1 water treatment can handle 1 reactor crucible or 1 water refinery

[young igloo]

ok 100 power saved

i use mf 4 for 2 xircon

[vast iron]

wym 4

each xircon needs 2 lol

[young igloo]

1 each sewage and xircon eff

[vast iron]

yeah, thats… normal?

[young igloo]

1 each facility

not 2 at 1

[jagged swallow]

uhhh i dont get what wrong uhh

[young igloo]

that why my ass saving 100 power more

openning the game rq

[vast iron]

you have stuff on the bottom

depots

[subtle finch]

there's depot output below too, this is way yt guide is easier

[pulsar cypress]

Place it..
Then interact with the hologram to make facilities ur lack in..

The note say u don't have enough facilities needed for the blueprint..

[vast iron]

youre supposed to?

[jagged swallow]

because i dont think i can start production for new red ore parts so

[vast iron]

I said 1 treatment can clean for 1 reactor OR 1 water stuff

[vast iron]

there are depot unloaders on the bottom side of the blueprint too

[dark furnace]

2 unloaders not connected to bus

or loader

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. Then before using blueprint u make simple copium parts blueprint first..
Make some of it..

Then make facilities lack that using it..

[young igloo]

fucas i thought i was wrong

i said 4 for 2 xircon

thats 2 each

[vast iron]

yes

i got lost too

[pulsar cypress]

While waiting for the copium part produced, make xyranite production blueprint first..

[jagged swallow]

no idea if this need to be done bottom or top

[young igloo]

lets have a kiss to solve the misunderstanding

[vast iron]

😳

[pulsar cypress]

That one can be placed anywhere that empty/not used.

[young igloo]

nvm watch kyostinv

he has guide for pretty much everything u asking

assuming you havent done the tower defense too

[jagged swallow]

uhhhh gap or no gap is hard to gauge

[dark furnace]

can be anywhere, just make sure to check the map power grid after moving it as pylon/relay outside AIC area have distance limit from the AIC unit, not the AIC area.

[pulsar cypress]

If all blue its good to place..
If there's red, there's gap..

[young igloo]

ur just missing some facilities

place it down and construct it later

[pulsar cypress]

Also.. Place some purple valley 4 battery first to depot and connect to thermal bank..
Or u will have energy problem..

[mild lynx]

Hello, i just wanna ask if there is some resource i can check for hidden facility recipes?

[jagged swallow]

I have like

50K of these

[pulsar cypress]

U can use that then..

[inland ruin]

Is this enough to keep the Wuling Outpost from capping on stock bills?

[dark furnace]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Automated_Industry_Complex

then click the machines

or simply search for the machine

the "usage" section list out all recipes

alternative you can search by the resources

the pages list out all machines and their related recipes that involve that resource

[mild lynx]

Ah ok im browsing it, this really has full coverage and its maintainers tried everything?

[jagged swallow]

no clue if i doing this wrong

[vast iron]

you dont have enough stuff to paste the blueprint

[dark furnace]

it's wiki so anyone can contribute to the site

[vast iron]

click on it to see what youre misisng

[jagged swallow]

no no

THE BLOODY GAP

no gap or have gap

is hard to measure

[mild lynx]

I was looking for some means to make something from inert xircon effluent, ideally if it can be reconstituted back to xiranite that would be huge

[jagged swallow]

in english terms.....tightfit or not tightfit

will i have issues?

[pulsar cypress]

Its already good as it is..
Just lack facilities needed..

Maybe the answer is perfect fit..

[jagged swallow]

that the gap i was refering

[wispy grove]

let it be

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. Just ignore it ig..
*except its aic size expansion problem..

[subtle finch]

this is why yt guide is easier

[dreamy jungle]

piping in this game

[subtle finch]

the full video of that is even crazier

[dreamy jungle]

[mild lynx]

Small mercy that they allow pipes to go through the bus

[hoary crag]

peak aesthetics when done perfectly

[mild lynx]

Yea lol its perfect to route cuprium refinery sewage bussing from one side into xircon lines from the other side

Also love reactor passthru

Neat little arrangement tricks

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[dreamy jungle]

reactors are indeed very interesting

[mild lynx]

You can really put them almost anywhere since you can pass anything not needed in its processing through

I wish belts had the same capacity as pipes though

That way belt splitters and convergers are actually useful

[vast iron]

belts do have capacity..?

[mild lynx]

Yea but you can only flow 0.5 into it versus 2 in pipes

[prisma hollow]

is the AIC which are around the map all have mutual storage? (example can i do inf flower farm a outpost and use it in AIC?)

[mild lynx]

Meaning it makes no sense to converge two belts into one like it would in a pipe

[subtle finch]

oh, different video, this one is better

[dreamy jungle]

omg

[vast iron]

yes for same area (wuling /v4)

[prisma hollow]

alrighty ty

[dreamy jungle]

holy shit

[jagged swallow]

ok make me understand the part3 -5 because i suddenly couldnt get the spacing for the bottom half...or is that for sub PAC?

[hoary crag]

part 3-5 wha?

[jagged swallow]

how do you share/copy thread again

[subtle finch]

not our blueprint, ask the creator

[jagged swallow]

true

should i ping them

idk if i should ping them

[jagged swallow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/950244160684834837/1485484253687840838

[subtle finch]

since they offered first, it's fine

[vast iron]

its all main aic

[jagged swallow]

yea the main question then...how do i set it up for bottom

top area is ok

bottom area

do i use max of how much i can use because...it seem to be apart of top area

[subtle finch]

i'm playing frogger with my aic

[mild lynx]

0 sanity behavior kek

[jagged swallow]

because so far this is my layout also yes i tested top area of blueprint is fine for me

did i misread somewhere

[vast iron]

the top needs to be on the tip top yes

0 gap

[vast iron]

nah thats middle snaity

[jagged swallow]

you sure zero gap I THINK it need that gap so.....

[mild lynx]

https://fxtwitter.com/smeu_channel/status/2036661912558256236/en

True, at least its not like this

桜兎めう🪸Vtuber (@SMeu_channel)

📑 Translated from Japanese

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[jagged swallow]

and my brain is melting from the bottom area

idk if there vc so

[jagged swallow]

went playing doom in endfield happens me will say it peak

[dreamy jungle]

sniffed too much powder

[mild lynx]

Ah here i guess it was built with pipes connected from outside the area but blueprints will not be allowed to cross the border

[jagged swallow]

yep

[mild lynx]

Sad limitation of blueprints

[jagged swallow]

so i kinda in a pitch right now either delete replace move

[mild lynx]

Better hand assembled, even if it takes hours

And also, if there wasnt that dumdum 512 facility limit i would be isolating every production step

[subtle finch]

i warned you, yt guide would be the easiest

kyostin never lets down newcomers

[mild lynx]

Kyostin never gives them up

Btw what do you guys meta from v4 into wuling?

Im kinda overcapping in everything now

[subtle finch]

just stack on parts and components, the rest can overflow so long as you can drain the outpost
before the next patch, most try to hoard their batteries in stashes

[mild lynx]

Eh, v4 components are pretty useless to meta over, and i guess worst case having the v4 batts would help in an emergency rebuild

[wispy grove]

use mine

[subtle finch]

if you feel like it, make 500 of each facility, you can't place them all anyway. at least that prevents the "not enough facilities" when placing blueprints

[mild lynx]

And if you use meta transfer to transfer raws like originium or ferrite (to open another unloader), you'd run a net loss because meta doesnt give you enough per hour

😭

[vast iron]

i have a sanityless idea

proceed?

[mild lynx]

Ye go

[subtle finch]

dense ori seem to be the best option, followed by ferrium

[mild lynx]

Hmm yea if you meta extra ferrium you can open a slightly more effective yazhenC line on top of the new yazhenA line

Tho for me the new batts alone already drain the bills of the one outpost

[subtle finch]

we're waiting

[atomic fiber]

hi

let me flex my bottle collection abit

[upper fiber]

delete it before the real one post it again

he has 80k of each kind with liquid inside

[mild lynx]

Eh how, isnt the cap 58k?

[upper fiber]

on valley IV

[mild lynx]

Howww, regional transfer doesnt even work from wuling side

Liquid facilities also dont work in v4

[subtle finch]

he is the regional transfer

[mild lynx]

Thats crazy

[upper fiber]

that's because he is sanityless

[mild lynx]

Bro would have to sit for hours moving bottles in dijiang

[atomic fiber]

isn't most people do that?

[mild lynx]

Wha, no

[atomic fiber]

it only take like minutes

[subtle finch]

i stopped ages ago

[atomic fiber]

I'm still moving HC

[upper fiber]

idk man, moving 400k item is still a chore

[pulsar cypress]

[mild lynx]

Each full backpack is like 1750 items

[pulsar cypress]

Ig im not part of that "most"..

[upper fiber]

and that guy have more than 1M bottles i think

[mild lynx]

To move 58k off wuling via endmin backpack you have to swipe the depots in dijiang about 33 times

Repeat for every bottle type and fluid type

[atomic fiber]

it about 5 seconds per bag

Just 2.75 minutes

[mild lynx]

Isnt 5 seconds alone just waiting for the depot to switch

[atomic fiber]

yeah, that is the thing that take time. the rest is instant

Just click once done

[mild lynx]

Yea i guess

Hmm

Yeah ok imma dump like 58k aketine into wuling

[atomic fiber]

maybe 7.5 seconds if you slow

[pulsar cypress]

Its just your endurance to do monotonous stuff routinely..

Slowdown the supply of battery to thermal, send the rest to depot?

[mild lynx]

Battery goes into bottom right splitter, it sends it down or up, upper splitter then feeds it to bank or send it down

Its a neat way to be efficient with battery feeding

More or less, but yea the thermal bank will never drain

[subtle finch]

exactly once every 40s the battery goes to thermal bank, 1 in 4 chance

i guess that's what the guy earlier was looking for lol

[mild lynx]

Its a kind of smart way of doing it but i personally segregate thermal banks in a corner and use unloaders on them directly

[subtle finch]

it's better if you stuffed it imo, incase something happens that stops you from producing bat.
it will buy you extra time

[mild lynx]

I find its better to decouple battery production from thermal banks

[tawny bear]

one goes to thermal, three go to depot

[mild lynx]

If you want to immediately dive into the full setups you can smuggle purple batts from v4 and feed that to wuling thermals for a bit

Starting wuling batt doesnt need that many bus area

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Thats the easiest way..
Just use v4 purple bats until u have some wuling bat in stock..

[mild lynx]

Yea usually you pick a far corner, put down a stash and fill that with purple batts, connecting to two or three thermals. By the time you fully drain that you should have the wuling stuff ready and running

Its also the strat when rebuilding from scratch

[coral orchid]

AIC utilities for battle be like

[mild lynx]

Idk what they're gonna add for 1.2 but i'll have to rebuild my factories again when that drops

[coral orchid]

Seems ineffective

I wondered if someone here were recommended this

[mild lynx]

Ohh yea i tried this too, its somewhat effective if your planter wall is wide enough to not overlap enemy spawns

But it eats precious world capacity so it kinda sucks a bit to use

[pulsar cypress]

Try the one from the magz..
Using pipe splitter/converger jail bars..

[mild lynx]

I only saw it tested in qingbo essence farm, caption was like yooo, ifrit lane in endfield

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. U place the burner in between the planter facilities..
So they can escape.. Ig..

[mild lynx]

I think the burner is inside the planter dome

Its a full square made of planters and two burners inside

[pulsar cypress]

In between it seems..

[coral orchid]

sadly thry goes overflow

[mild lynx]

Eh that setup is kinda lame you leave half of the spawns unflamed

They just get zapped by the background teslas

If you have it in a square like

->>> (burner 1)
<<<- (burner 2)

You get better coverage

Tho this looks like valley4 anyway, its probably better to omit the burners altogether and just use the teslas and box the spawns in using the planters

[dark furnace]

did they fix the belt bug too

[pulsar cypress]

Not sure, but so far mine also fully stable..

[coral orchid]

no

[coral orchid]

Like this?

[mild lynx]

Maybe a bit too wide, and also i'd use more of the electric turret that can multi target rather than the limited range flamers

Eh test it out see if you dont get stragglers

I didnt really find much use for burners in essence afk

[wispy wren]

Have any of you guys tried making a pipe storage?

[mild lynx]

Like bottling liquids?

[wispy wren]

No

Like

[mild lynx]

Pipe is free, what do u store

[wispy wren]

We know there are pits in overworld that work qs fluid storage right?

[mild lynx]

Ah yes the wuling pit

[wispy wren]

Yeah except the pipeline i ran from jingyu to 40k hole alone runs 1k ish capacity

So i'm thinking something like a huge area just full of spiriling pipes with all sorts of liquids

[mild lynx]

Ah yea you could maybe do that but laying pipe in overworld is a bit annoying since there's no top view

[wispy wren]

And we just plug the ends with fluid storage for whenever we need it.

Input will be wuling fac and out put will be jingyu ish

[wispy wren]

Certainly but gane makes us do weird things when there's nothing to do

[mild lynx]

Every pipe stores two units so you could store a lot if you were determined to pipe every single pipable inch of space

[wispy wren]

Wait 2?

Wasn't it one?

[mild lynx]

Though im not sure if they impose a facility limit in overworld like they do inside the aic (512). Pipes themselves shouldnt count maybe

[mild lynx]

Its two

You can converge two pipes into one and it still flows

Like click a pipe right now and it says flow rate 2

Ohh

Yea my bad it stores 79 just by itself

[leaden drift]

I would do something similar but it want the sides to look the same.... and pipes dont like that

[wispy wren]

I'm gonna also take a project of creating RGB piping once the next update drops

People are getting quite creative with it

[dark furnace]

speaking of which, could you share the zipline at the top right corner of wuling city to me? please

[wispy wren]

Where is that?

[mild lynx]

I need to figure out how to pipe jail all the lizards in the map so they dont harass me

[fleet wing]

@neat osprey, it appears as if you're trying to cycle 1/3rd of the materials back into your AIC depot?

[neat osprey]

I want to use a splitter to waste production.

Instead of a belt straight to production, one belt goes to production and one goes back to depot.

This doesn't work.

It works when I'm logged in, but when I leave the game acts like it's a straight shot to production.

Is there a way to slow things down without using them?

[wispy wren]

Don't they go through fac buildings anyway?

[fleet wing]

and it supposedly isn't working properly, either in factory production results or the AIC graph estimate?

[mild lynx]

I dunno, there must be a way

[fleet wing]

i see what you're saying 👍

[subtle finch]

@dreamy jungle @vast iron
here's the bug i mentioned earlier. it's a bit long so ill timestamp what happened

00:00 - 01:50, layout introduction, showing everything is full, and pumps/splitters are properly connected
5 min - i noticed the right side is draining water
9 min - the signs of xiranite belt clogging is showing
11:30 - the weird aic report occurs, output rate is consistent, while input is slowing down. free xiranite i guess

https://youtu.be/f4YrMVO10b8

[mild lynx]

I had a weird bug too where two pieces of wild xircon got itself stuck in my reactor passthrus and broke my entire cuprium line

[neat osprey]

Local Depot stays the same after I've been logged out for a long time.

I thiiiiiink it increases while I'm logged in, but now I have doubts so I'm testing more.

The intended result is "nothing gets maxxed out if I'm logged out for a long time, but it still builds up."

[fleet wing]

could you share your AIC report graph if you don't mind?

[neat osprey]

OK now IDK WTF

2 belts, usage 60

Splitter, usage 50

Wait.... usage 60

2 belts, usage 60

Splitter, usage 70

Wait, 60

....

Hmm, no, this is accurate. With splitter, Local Depot is stuck between 1040 and 1050 even if I stay logged in.

[fleet wing]

how long are you waiting for these changes to appear in your AIC report?

[neat osprey]

Sorry for photos, Discord not working well on laptop

[jovial breach]

[neat osprey]

Between 30 seconds and 18 hours. I'm having fun testing it. It's been 3 days. 😆

[jovial breach]

A lot of things are not right in that pic...

[cyan forge]

Omfg 210 xira usage

[jovial breach]

I dont want to imagine your actual layout

[cyan forge]

[neat osprey]

Do I seem like my factory is finished to you 😅

[fleet wing]

wait 10 minutes for the graph to even out before checking in-between tests

[mild lynx]

Hmmm, i think you're losing water to pipe travel? Maybe its time to work inlet/outlets into your system

[fleet wing]

5 minutes should be fine too

[neat osprey]

Oh my god, no you don't, there is some really heinous shit I need to untangle

[subtle finch]

this has been a long discussion on this channel already
basically we're talking about series splitter vs equal split

in theory series would just fill one then the other, until it equalize, the vid is the proof that's not the case.
switching to equal fluid split fixes the issue

[jovial breach]

Ok first, sandleaf, should be 360 theoritically yield
2nd yazhen why tf it's 300
3rd xiranite, do i even need to say more
4th copium should be 120 theory yield

[mild lynx]

Right, i intuitively thought

A -> B, C
Is better than

A -| B -| C

[dreamy jungle]

they pre clogged everything and still lose water, what

[neat osprey]

Some of that is just protocol storage and shit like that

Plant usage is heinous, yes, at one point I said "f* it" and turned half of my base into infinite plant powders 🥴

I need to fix that someday

[dreamy jungle]

out of curiosity can you try one splitter for 3 facs

[mild lynx]

All of the 4 facilities are calling water at the same time but the right side facilities will receive water delayed from the earlier ones from the line, resulting in a drain

I think?

Every step in the split creates a timing delay

Not to mention the pipe distance

[jovial breach]

@neat osprey here's a example aic reports, 12/min sc 6/min yazhen A, no component

[subtle finch]

sure, i'll just let you know the results later

[dreamy jungle]

that shouldn't matter i think since once a facility is clogged there should be enough for the others

[neat osprey]

I've just been wasting time here and in-game.... 60/m usage, Depot stock not changing.

Splitter in place. Sending a loop back to depot does nothing.

[mild lynx]

But the clog doesnt persist that long when the water comes from like 30 units down, the arrow flow still has to move right?

[subtle finch]

the only difference in variable that causes the issue is series split vs equal split. we don't need to overthink lol

[mild lynx]

Yea if you split on a split there path between A and the split on B and C is already halved

[jovial breach]

I have a question do you guys split both xiranite and cupium or just do 1 and let the other bottleneck itself

[mild lynx]

All my raw xiranite goes into xircon 😭

[neat osprey]

I have two Forges going straight into Xircon production, one Forge split between the two armor parts, and one Forge to depot.

I have depot output going into LC batteries.

So yeah, I need to upgrade to full SC someday.

[jovial breach]

So no component? Or you just turn it on and off

[cyan forge]

Isn't that what we r supposed to do?

[mild lynx]

I started with components, i cut it when it hit like 30k

[cyan forge]

Yeah, no component

[mild lynx]

Then i never re established it again

[jovial breach]

Im trying to split it so i don't have to touch it again

But i realised i have to touch it next patch anyway

[cyan forge]

If u wanna make component, use a splitter to slap half a xira into depo and the other half still to xircon prod. That way u can add 1 water treatment to the sewage to make sure u don't clog

That's what am doing at least

[mild lynx]

Unless you're aggressively artificing there isnt much reason to maintain a long term component line and hurt the cash crops

[hoary crag]

^^

[jovial breach]

Currently im making 0.5 red and 0.25 green comp

[cyan forge]

I am aggressively artificing kekw

[hoary crag]

lmao

[jovial breach]

Wait no green comp actually

[mild lynx]

[cyan forge]

I have like 10 catalyst left