aic-factory

[serene mist]

I got bored and did this with my belt

[hoary crag]

basically a youtuber known for playing factory-type games and uhh...

wreaking total havoc on them

if there'd be anyone who'd cover wuling in pipes, it'd be him.

and yes, he did exactly that

[serene mist]

They made underground pipes cuz they definitely saw what he did

[sterile stratus]

finally completed my v4

[hoary crag]

lmao

[fathom glade]

i destroyed part of my v4 to make yazhen and jincao Cs

[sterile stratus]

gotta take a break after fixing my dumb design

[real crescent]

tbh compared to the other games josh played his endfield stuff was pretty tame

[sterile stratus]

and i forgot to do housework my parents are gonna slime me

[young stag]

or because pipes consume a lot of real estate

[fathom glade]

There is such a significant excess in v4 that im taking the ferrium to make Cs for wuling

[sterile stratus]

max profit?

[young stag]

my very own spaghetti

[fathom glade]

yes

this assumes you let depots expire too

[serene mist]

Yeah i was the same

And still am

[fathom glade]

10M profit is crazy even before doing depots

[sterile stratus]

i'm making maybe a FRACTION of that idk

[solid quiver]

lmao pipes don't count as facilities I kept placing them after reaching facility limit

[sterile stratus]

makes sense,pipes are just pipes

[fathom glade]

iirc it counts as unit but not facility limit

[solid quiver]

I just had crazy idea

[fathom glade]

(units are like belts, pipes)

[solid quiver]

there's unit limit too?

[fathom glade]

yeah, essentially

[bright zodiac]

pipe bridge, splitter, converger are count as individial facility

u can go on, if ypu think there is no limkt on your pipe, go on

and find it yourself learning the hardway is the best

[fathom glade]

facilities are under the unit umbrella and contribute as well

but units dont count into the facility subsection

[serene mist]

Total chaos in here

[solid quiver]

until what point

[fathom glade]

you can use two water pumps

[bright zodiac]

pipe also has lenght limit unless....... you... use more facility, like bridging converging splitting as extender

[fathom glade]

for high purity, 1 pump--> 3 miners
for low purity, 1pump--> 6 miners

[small creek]

why so many pump

[serene mist]

So to explain, i didnt know at the start how much i need for these so theres 1 to each

And now im just too lazy to change it

[young stag]

which makes long distance transfer slow

since a pipe has to be full for the second one to start flowing

[bright zodiac]

well i mean, they dream to fill whOle wuling cover in pipe, and says there is no limit

[young stag]

you basically can’t do that due to factory limits

[bright zodiac]

exactly what i said

[dark furnace]

the mining rigs are thirsty

[wispy grove]

@fathom glade yeah i tried, it didnt work

experiment 2 coming right up

[fathom glade]

I've set it up for now, i'll check back in and let you know if the bug persists. the setup is fully the same as before on y end

my*

thanks for giving it a shot nonetheless!

[wispy grove]

Now give me your xiranite reserves

https://tenor.com/view/poki-pokithehamster-hamster-hammy-cute-gif-17523658508097726715

[fathom glade]

i dont have 30k

[serene mist]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-no-patrick-star-patrick-nope-gif-9473600452124631034

[wispy grove]

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/perlica-arknights-endfield-perlica-punch-punch-endfield-gif-14905320235782149917

[tawny shadow]

I connected the pipe from tianjing courtyard to hulu cave without any issue
(hulu cave minerals needs 1.5 pumps and the one on tianjing needs 0,5)

[wispy grove]

Welp. It didnt work on me

[tawny shadow]

thanks to this dumb 512 limit

wuling city should have more. it's literally the biggest map

[hoary crag]

lol

[small creek]

what u tryna do

liquid xir and yazhen soln in one?

[hoary crag]

someone earlier encountered a possible bug

[small creek]

you havent selected a second fluid output

theres also no xiranite going in

[hoary crag]

basically someone is trying to do liquid xiranite and yahzen solution in one crucible

[small creek]

give me a min

[hoary crag]

ayt

[small creek]

it works 🤷

[hoary crag]

no, the issue the player had was that the reactor just somehow stopped producing liquid xiranite.

their screenshot made is look like the yahzen solution clogging somehow caused it

wait lemme point to the starting point

@small creek here

[small creek]

oh yeah

i think thats new

[supple sierra]

Where do i find hot work exo rig? It says in stock redistribution but im unable to find it

[small creek]

mine also randomly stopped working while i was setting up

[hoary crag]

which technically should not happen since whatever the status of formula 1 shouldn't affect the production of formula 2

[small creek]

never broke after that tho

its like the game just suddenly forgets the formula when the powder runs out

[hoary crag]

wait you were able to replicate it? even for a second?

[small creek]

idk the exact mechanism

it happened to me several times but i never bothered replicating on purpose

[hoary crag]

hmm ic

[small creek]

im interested in optimizing tech, not bugs lol

[hoary crag]

well ig this bug does make single purpose reactors a much safer option as of now

[vast iron]

Might be due to yazhen solution not being outputted mayb?

[small creek]

double purpose is still plenty safe

ive been running this for like a few days now

[vast iron]

probably not just putting that out there tho

[hoary crag]

it could be, but the yahzen solution's status shouldn't affect production of liquid xiranite

[upper fiber]

i doubt so, his reactor shown no liquid xyra ever made in that reactor

[hoary crag]

^^^

[vast iron]

Maybe they just dont have the tech unlocked?

no clue

[upper fiber]

it is on 1 reactor only,

[hoary crag]

there's no reactor expansion aic afaik, I could be wrong tho

still doesn't change the fact that they have a second reactor tho that's functioning as intended

[vast iron]

No but you need to unlock dual processing whatever it was (didnt notice second ss)

In that case its probably a bug

I guess we could try reproducing it

[wispy grove]

funny when after fixing crucible bug, we wanna look for another

[supple sierra]

Where do i find hot work exo rig? It says in stock redistribution but im unable to find it or at which rd it unlocks?

[upper fiber]

buy it at stock redist

[wispy grove]

increase your regional lvl?

[lapis crane]

because it there
keep eating up 1 production

[supple sierra]

Im rd 6 now

[lapis crane]

did u upgrade bunny stock?

[upper fiber]

outpost lv3?

[wispy grove]

bro, youre using 1 day graph. like i said tell your ODC to let you sleep at night

[vast iron]

My only theory is
That yazhen was already clogged before they inputted the xiranite
And that lead to it being stuck finishing the last single yazhen recipe

[wispy grove]

i tried

all 50

before adding xiranite

it didnt clog

Its a pc diff

[supple sierra]

Well I am currently doing it but I dont have enough stock bills

[tall thunder]

When can I sell this?

[upper fiber]

soon...

[wispy grove]

Which hot work tho? Using cuprium comps?

[vast iron]

If you look at their ss of this, there is a yellow arrow pointing at the yazhen meaning they somehow got the reactor to attempt at making a yazhen recipe when it was already full

[vast iron]

Ya cant rn

[wispy grove]

Mine does

[vast iron]

Hmmmm

Yeah i got nothing

[supple sierra]

I think so

[wispy grove]

Any pictures of that hotwork u wanna get?

[upper fiber]

try turning off the reactor when producing yazhen, although it might eat up that without giving result

[wispy grove]

Oh its cuprium

Yeah do tangtang quest

[lapis crane]

stock redistribution
upgrade bunny

[supple sierra]

Ok 👍 thank u bro

[lapis crane]

this said it all

[solid quiver]

apparently it's impossible since pipe limit is only 128

[supple sierra]

Oh so thats what it said

[wispy grove]

underlvld yeh

[brittle jackal]

Why are you confusing me

[young stag]

it’s not confusing really

bridges are a thing

[brittle jackal]

You showed me 5 refining unit what should I do with that

[young stag]

my mistake, change the refining units that feed directly to packing to shredding

forgot the formula

[brittle jackal]

I don't need to ferrum ore cause I've alot of ferrum

I put ferrrum in ferrrum in unloader and make it works

[young stag]

well it’s kinda a waste to make it somewhere else

[brittle jackal]

It was All Good and now I've to do it all again

[young stag]

cause it’s such a short line to do

[upper fiber]

delete everything and copy paste blueprint is the best solution i can give

[small creek]

this is working 🤷

[brittle jackal]

I had to do it allll over again omggg

[pulsar cypress]

Your previous one good enough to go..
°-°)/*pats

Until ur more familiar with how factory works..

[brittle jackal]

I've put this and put and show ss and it's ok

Feels like I'm on doing labour work

[young stag]

not really

[small creek]

and for my next trick i will put xiranite in my cuprium component

[young stag]

his previous one fed 2 mats to 1 shredder

[pulsar cypress]

After ur familiar and comfortable to minmaxing space, u can remake and compress the size as you want..

Its ok not to also, what important is it working as u needed and producing the items..

[tender thistle]

Is the offline belt speed still reduced if we have only 1 tile of space?

If not, for longer belts lines can we do belt - splitter - belt - splitter - belt?

[brittle jackal]

[pulsar cypress]

He find factory system hard to understand and do, still learning the basic of doing it.
He been trying to make that battery setup this whole afternoon.

Please just give him a break.

[brittle jackal]

And now I've to make the same as the pic

[upper fiber]

that's why bp exists....

you can learn from bp faster

[brittle jackal]

I wish I can copy someone bp there is no option

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465162121045348392

[dark furnace]

you will get used to it, sometimes it's easier if you copy from image and know what is doing what so you can build/optimize it yourself later

[pulsar cypress]

What part of story quest are u in?
Also, have u place mining rig at every ore nodes you find?

[dark furnace]

but online BP is a feature I forgot when you unlock

[pulsar cypress]

Im afraid copying bp directly while have not enough ore will make you more confused.

[hoary crag]

I have blueprints for all of my setups

tho they're all endgame

and needs ore output to be maxed

[brittle jackal]

Temporary peace

[hoary crag]

what's the quest number if I may ask?

ex: Chapter II - Process III

[tender thistle]

Anyone?

[hoary crag]

tbh I didn't answer cuz I have absolutely no idea sadly

but personally I try to limit the number of belt logistics that I use

[pulsar cypress]

Its still early one ig.. Ch1 P4?

[brittle jackal]

Chapter 1 process IV

[pulsar cypress]

Yaasss.. Early one..

[hoary crag]

oh so we're still in valley 4

early to mid game

hmm

what's your ore output as of now?

[pulsar cypress]

The one after the pipe boss iirc..

[hoary crag]

they did rhodagn and ruan yi dirty for not including their intro scenes in re:crisis

[tender thistle]

I used splitters and double belts everywhere cz I was paranoid, hit facility limit so had to use wuling subpac as well x_x

I think imma run an experiment with some belt setups and stashes and see if anything works

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

[dark furnace]

why is it dirty?

ngl I want the other two intros gone

no point watching them again and again every time I fight them

[hoary crag]

the intros just give them so much aura

[dark furnace]

[hoary crag]

best of both worlds: make it a toggle option

[dark furnace]

aura just to get killed in 2 mins

[hoary crag]

[wispy grove]

[brittle jackal]

Do I need to freind them and copy thir bp

[verbal lintel]

ruan yi has the most aura

[hushed blaze]

Is it allowed to use turrets against boss?

[viscid plover]

They never give out any survey since 1.1 did they?

[brittle jackal]

So how do I add someone and copy thier bp

[tender thistle]

https://talospioneers.com/en

You can find bps online here

Filter by sever and area

Copy the code of the blueprint

Then when in AIC mode in pac/subpac go to toolkit - then blueprints - then shared blueprints - then add, and paste the blueprint code you copied earlier

[tender thistle]

You don't need to add anyone as a friend to get access to their blueprint - you just need their shared blueprint code

[tulip agate]

that's an awesome site. Thanks for the link

[brittle jackal]

Got it thanks

[young igloo]

#1461542035617091681 just go around do a reasearch

pretty much every blueprint u need is there

even the one you dont need

[brittle jackal]

Should I redo my buck capsules B factor?

[young igloo]

id rcm not

[brittle jackal]

Ok

I guess I should stick with powder for healing

[near flower]

Is that how endgame looks like?

[tulip agate]

you don't need to produce everything and stack it to 80k

[near flower]

I need

xD

[tough snow]

Is 6/min SC battery + 6/min yazhen A enough to clear the outpost management?

[near flower]

No

[tough snow]

Need 12 battery?

[tulip agate]

it depends on what you are looking to get out of it. You can min/max your outpost management, or you can min/max your storage, but you're giving up some efficiency when you do that.

[solid quiver]

need for aura and satisfaction

[near flower]

Then what do I even do with aic in valley?

[young igloo]

12

[near flower]

I did it like that

[young igloo]

iirc 9 bat and 6 yazhen

[solid quiver]

12 min battery should cover

[near flower]

But kinda inconvenient to build with these ratios

[tough snow]

How do you even do 10

[near flower]

Tbh there's nothing to buy in Valley for stock bills

[young igloo]

double the factory?

[vast iron]

you can have 4 forges placed

for 120

each battery sc is 60

[tough snow]

I know but how do you split them to be 10 instead of 12

[near flower]

Use splitters and convergers

[vast iron]

make ferrium 20/minute and then have everything else clog

well besides sewage we dont want that clogging

[tough snow]

Is 9 enough I'm in no mood to think rn 😂

[young igloo]

a splitter and a converger will work

[vast iron]

holy belt bridges…

[near flower]

But it prob can be less messy

[young igloo]

ooh a spaghetti

[vast iron]

your facility count is literally dying rn wtf

[near flower]

Yeah, because I save all resources, including sandleaf

[devout egret]

when bored just redo some v4 factory

[near flower]

That's just enough

[young igloo]

my sandleaf maxxed the stash it clogged so nah

[tough snow]

Oh ok i didn't see the ore/item collumn thx I'm stealing this

[small creek]

at least 10/min SCW

[near flower]

But as I said, you should count all ratios. Like for example for 6 bats you use 2 xiranite outputs (60/min). And for 4 bats you also need 2 outputs, but one of them you split into 3 (10 each). So 30 + 10 = 40/min. And other 2 10/min lines you can use for 1/min cuprium and xiranite comps

[tough snow]

Got it thx

[vast iron]

oh and btw 10/min like is just:
Output-> converger -> splitter

connect 2/3 of the splitter outputs back to the converger

[near flower]

As for the cubes - you need 2 and 2/3 cubes (other 1/3 cubes you can use for xiranite comps)

[tough snow]

Damn what wizardry is this I've always splitted then and input them back into the depot 😭

[near flower]

Why? You don't need a converger

[vast iron]

saves a depot stash

you already do it i just probably didnt explain it well

[young igloo]

but why limit to 10 tho?

[vast iron]

10/min for components

[jovial breach]

Depends on what ratio you want to achieve

10/min xiranite is 1/min component

[young igloo]

i thought bc of the taxes everyone have spare xiranite

[vast iron]

converger methods dont need do drag belts across half the map

its ncie

since depot unloaders cost 0 energy

[young igloo]

[near flower]

Well, you either can send it back to depot (1) or for another production (2)

[tough snow]

Sorry what cube again

[young igloo]

steel

wait

[near flower]

Dense originium powder

[vast iron]

this is a 10/min output

it slows the flow of the belt to 10/min

and you can output the remaining 20 elsewhere

good if you have stuff far away

[tough snow]

If only there's a logistics item that reduces flow rate

[near flower]

For 6 bats you need 4 of them. But for 4 bats you need only 2 and 2/3 of cubes. So you can make 3 lines and one split into 1/3 (xiranite comps) and 2/3 (for bats)

[vast iron]

what flow rate you want

[near flower]

But doesn't you just lose items there? What is the point?

[young igloo]

nah its clogged

[tough snow]

10, thx for the splitter converger tech

[vast iron]

you dont?

the split off ones will clog the main one so the main one only outputs 10/s

[tough snow]

You just put them elsewhere

[near flower]

I got it, but what's the point?

[young igloo]

for 10/s flow rate?

[vast iron]

you dont need to drag belts across half the map

[tough snow]

I use premade blueprints so not everything can be close together

[vast iron]

Thats the point

its a pretty commonly used speed restrictor and configurable

[near flower]

I mean you won't do it anyway if you place everything close to each other

[near flower]

But other 20 still stays there

[young igloo]

no ?

its clogged

[tough snow]

Girl just make another output

For the other 20

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[near flower]

I'm not girl xD

[young igloo]

you are

[wispy grove]

whuts happenin

[tough snow]

All of you are

[young igloo]

everyone is a cute girl on the internet

[near flower]

I got it, it just makes no sense when there are no other outputs

[near flower]

Like here

[young igloo]

thats the point

[vast iron]

Having to place stuff together is really restricting

[tough snow]

Idk what is it that you don't get

[vast iron]

also you can just output the 20 from another depot unloader, lol

[vast iron]

place one?

also here is a 25/min restrictor

[young igloo]

i just dont make the component lol

[near flower]

Yeah, it's just there were no other outputs on the picture so it looks stupid

[vast iron]

its an example, bruh

I can send a working blueprint but im lazy

[near flower]

Bro, I'm literraly using it here

[vast iron]

thats different

youre not clogging the output flow,..

[molten patrol]

Finally i fit the battery and syringe in sub-aic in wuling, I'm gonna lose it if they add a higher tier bruh

[young igloo]

brother calm down

[dark furnace]

becareful that spliter output and coverger inputs need to have at least one belt apart otherwise there will be an offline bug making it output less than you want, for example 23/m instead of 25/m

[wispy grove]

HC coming soon

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[young igloo]

thats not very

space efficent

yk

[vast iron]

your depot output is still sending out 30 cuprium a minute, a clog based restrictor will slow the output rate to 20/min, not split the 30 between 20 and 10

[vast iron]

yes, i am aware

it will become a converger priority bug tho

which will increase the output rate

[near flower]

I don't really understand what it gives you

[dark furnace]

either way it's not outputing as expected

[near flower]

Okay, makes sense

I just usually sent it back to depot xD

[jolly shore]

They need to give me things to buy with v4 bills. I have started letting them stockpile and shipping resources to wu ling while listening to podcasts

[vast iron]

Doing this just saves 5 power and the stash footprint

[dark furnace]

you are producing 6/m SC only, what about the other 2 xiranite

[vast iron]

Converger and splitters are probably the most buggy components out there

[dark furnace]

they do, but also belt, they are buggy as hell too while offline

[near flower]

Not like 5 power saves a lot lmao. But they, it looks cleaner, maybe I'll use it later

[vast iron]

not really, just a speed thing (~0.5% speed loss)

[vast iron]

when youre trying to get under 3400 for everything, every drop matters

[near flower]

I mean maybe my factory isn't the best in terms of tidiness, but I haven't really seen more effective ones

[vast iron]

[dark furnace]

that speed thing clogs up my machines and random dip in the graph, super bad

[near flower]

What's the point of going to 3400 if you can use originium for power?

[vast iron]

you have no spare originium once you pivot to full batteries (enough components stockpiled)

[near flower]

I do 60 excess originium which gives 400 more power

[vast iron]

convergers and splitters have like multiple pages of niche interactions

[vast iron]

youre making 10/min

[dark furnace]

just dont clog too much

[near flower]

What?

Bats?

[vast iron]

10/min sc

[iron spoke]

not sure if I'm understanding, are the two inputs of a converger right on the unloader port able to essentially simulate loader ports?

[vast iron]

ye

[near flower]

I know, that's enough

[dark furnace]

I think only people who edge battery suffer from splitter and converger combos

[vast iron]

since the splitter moves them back to converger itl alternate between taking inputs from the sides and the unloader which slows it down

[young igloo]

same

[vast iron]

battery edgers scare me

[young igloo]

my wuling need 4k2 power and im happy with it

[dark furnace]

not much I really need to clog for normal uses in my factory

[young igloo]

[wispy grove]

nah

[dark furnace]

the only time I clog 25/m was when I was making yazhen C

[upper fiber]

i'll be damned if next region not using wuling artificing anymore

[vast iron]

it probably wont

[subtle finch]

I finally completed my dream layout.
-4 forge at the center
-zero stash
-perfect sandleaf efficiency
-10crucible, 120/min jincao/yazhen solution

[iron spoke]

can it be repeated for 1/9

[dark furnace]

but now I don't make yazhen C, I have no belt clog in my factory

[wispy grove]

if that really happens

https://tenor.com/view/man-destroys-pc-harold-slikk-new-computer-haroldslikk-escortedcomputer-gif-23496313

[iron spoke]

simulate 4 loader ports?

[vast iron]

1/9 should be doable yes

[wispy grove]

after all that artificing

[vast iron]

but you cant use a 1/3 flowrate belt into a rate limiter

[dark furnace]

tbf new region would definitely use new gears and components, but when is the question

[vast iron]

rate limiters only work on 30/min belts

but you can just make a 1/9 rate limiter

[iron spoke]

rate limiter?

[wispy grove]

after we get all the silhouete

[vast iron]

i call them that

[dark furnace]

[wispy grove]

only tangtang and rossi are revealed

theres 4 more

[dark furnace]

endfield not doing drip correctly

[near flower]

I have a little problem though. Right I use 110 cuprium for 5.5 syringes A and 10 cuprium for 1 cuprium comps. But after cuprium comps will get to max capacity - I can use all 120 cuprium for 6 syringes. Is there any way to distribute cuprium authomatically and not rebuild it?

[dark furnace]

but wrong use of drip would make people hoard pulls and don't pull on current banners

[vast iron]

1/9 rate limter

[upper fiber]

depend on how you limit the 110

[near flower]

I want something like overflow splitters in endfield

[vast iron]

#1476003772890218638 here

abusing unintended interactions

just rate limit the priority side to 10/min

[iron spoke]

so this won't work ?

[hoary crag]

very nice

[vast iron]

it will its just a lil chonky

[hoary crag]

can we get a full view from a zipline?

[upper fiber]

what bro want from 120/min solution....

[vast iron]

filling the ocean ig

[iron spoke]

but as long as the convergers are directly connected to the unloader or directly adjacent it acts like a loader?

[upper fiber]

10hrs and 100 fluid tanks

[wispy grove]

put converger on each side of the 1st splitter instead. much cleaner that way

[vast iron]

thats not really how that works
when the converger has an item on multiple sides, itl alternate which side it takes from
since the sides are basically always full the main 1 alternates

wait a min

hmm

move everything up by 1 and add a splitter at the beginning

That should unprioritize the entry

[sharp basin]

how many battledo i need cuz it keep cloggging

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[wispy grove]

bro chill with the bottles bro

[sharp basin]

how many

[iron spoke]

does this work as a 2/9 output? while keeping 7/9 in the stash?

[sharp basin]

i need more slot for buck A 3

[near flower]

Genuinely how tf does this work

And someone even found that out

[wispy grove]

just 2 lines

[dark furnace]

just split one of your fitting unit out to 3 belts, 2 goes to syringes, one goes to comp, when comp is clogged all the remaining parts will be pushed to the syringes

Alternatively you could depot your parts first

[vast iron]

check who posted

i mean theres still some niche cases even i havent figured out so if you find something interesting you can post it there

[near flower]

Yeah, I think I got it (though syringes also use bottles so I think you should split cuprium, not parts)

Actually that's huge, you can redistribute your resources to craft more of other items

[vast iron]

the only issueis that its, kinda chonky

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-floating-gif-22884358

[hoary crag]

now that's hot, very hot. love it

[near flower]

Well, they def should add overflow splitters that, it would be huge

[marble yarrow]

mid-patch AIC update when

[hoary crag]

imagine

[vast iron]

i hope they dont accidentally patch all these interesting interactions…

[small creek]

[hoary crag]

I decided to add conveyor loops to my core aic cuz there's nothing left to do

😭

[dark furnace]

component doesn't need bottle wdym

[near flower]

Syringes

[wispy grove]

wheres that

[small creek]

here https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1485484253687840838

[dark furnace]

i know syringe needs bottle, but you said both syringe and component need bottle?

[vast iron]

probably meant cuprium

[dark furnace]

yea i guess so

[wispy grove]

your graph is a repellant

[near flower]

No xD
I just meant that I should split cuprium before crafting parts then

[wispy grove]

[small creek]

my graph is supposed to show 3/min and 1.5/min split

[wispy grove]

you couldve atleast make a stable one

[vast iron]

Stable graphs are a thing of the past

it is over.

[near flower]

Idk, I think this one is pretty stable

[small creek]

it is stable depending on the configuration you choose

[wispy grove]

ntahts stable even if its wavy

[small creek]

what im trying to show here is the 0 delay on transitioning between configs

[near flower]

Cause it's 5.5 syringes

It doesn't show decimals

[small creek]

but i guess ppl see funky graph, dont read and go away

[vast iron]

[wispy grove]

i mean thats what people who wanna copy bps, they want results

[dark furnace]

well I mean you can do that, but you can also integrate the 10/m cuprium to one of the fitting units, and split 1 out of 3 belts to the component unit. You save 1 unloader, 1 loader, and a fitting unit this way

[small creek]

i am showing results bro

its 3 and 1.5 in 1 graph

[vast iron]

no one ever asked me for my graphs idk

[wispy grove]

my bad, i mean stable results always assume ocd peope

[vast iron]

ocd people are scary…

[wispy grove]

but i dunno thats just my opinion

[hoary crag]

on the flip note

[wispy grove]

you can still send another picture witha stable one

[small creek]

i mean if they dont get the graph, its not my loss

[dark furnace]

the hardest part is offline 2h and 30mins graph

[hoary crag]

ocd is also why we have really optimized and compacted setups at the same time

[vast iron]

my ocd is compact

[hoary crag]

lol

[vast iron]

idgaf if my graph looks like dogshit as long as it works

[hoary crag]

for me I balance compactness, efficiency, and aesthetics

[small creek]

my ocd is power efficient

[hoary crag]

😭

[wispy grove]

true, ocd is the sole foundation of this game

and sandleaf

[near flower]

I should build comps and syringes in one place to make it more convenient. But after all the new stuff I found out it would be easier to just rebuild the whole factory xD

[wispy grove]

[small creek]

i dont give a fuck what it looks like, i want funny low number

[dark furnace]

I used to have OCD until I had enough of everything and think it's just a small part of my life

[vast iron]

"what if it could be smaller?"

[hoary crag]

and you have no idea how much it annoys me when I see those one length pipes that show nothing even tho they do send stuff from A to B

[vast iron]

instant regret

[near flower]

With split converters you also can switch to 12 bats and 6 syringes A after comps are maxed

[dark furnace]

knowing we are going to scrap the whole AIC and rebuild it in 1.2 or 1.3 makes me don't wanna optimize it now

[near flower]

Same

[hoary crag]

I mean I don't mind it lol

at least there's more stuff to do

[vast iron]

Oh sorry, your battery shit is now irrelevent cuz the new one is 3.639% more bill efficient

dies

[wispy grove]

for the sake of optimization

[vast iron]

did you optimize your power? Fuck you the new max is 6.4k now or whatever

[hoary crag]

[small creek]

true

all this optimization just to scrap it in a months time

[hoary crag]

I mean at least it's fun doing it ig

[near flower]

Though I still think my factory is good enough. Because I was trying to get all stock bills, but craft both types of comps at the same time and I succeed

[small creek]

it is yea

[vast iron]

watch the next ore come out and we need to feed the drills liquid xiranite to mine them or smt

[dark furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/no-regrets-no-ragrets-same-yolo-we-are-the-millers-gif-4961595

[vast iron]

my prediction

[small creek]

calm down satan

fucking liquid xiranite?

[hoary crag]

and then when said months time arrive, we optimize it again knowing the cycle repeats in a few months time again

[vast iron]

oh and make them produce sewage

[dark furnace]

wait till we have gas

[vast iron]

[small creek]

oh wow thank u

50 power tax just to mine ore

thats just brilliant

[near flower]

Wait till we have pipe physics

[wispy grove]

imagine getting a sewage clog outside AIC

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/oil-gif-22029798

[near flower]

At least ore authomatically send to the depot, thanks god

[hoary crag]

imagine in the third region we'd have to set up vents

[vast iron]

why else do you think theres a pool of sewage in stockade? Heeh

theorizing is fun

[dark furnace]

all the tech delivering ores to depot automatically and endmin still has to do errands for depot deliveries

[vast iron]

even funnier when some of the deliveries are straight up raw ore

[wispy grove]

next ore iss aggeloid related so im sure we gonna have a aggeloid farm like minecraft or somethin

[vast iron]

and then you realize depot stash can empty its entire inventory in 8s

which is 300 items

[near flower]

And take environment photos instead of like placing cameras or smth xD

[dark furnace]

no drones

[vast iron]

also why the fuck do we have ziplines when we have teleports

just like

build more teleports?

why is teleporting damaging package when we "teleport" all our ore from drills

like lets be honest

[dark furnace]

drones are forbidden because they disturb the natural lifes in wuling.

-# meamwhile endmin blowing up stuffs randomly with portable explosive

[near flower]

Bro, you just don't understand, it's not the same

[wispy grove]

maybe future operator is on wheelchair. be considerate

[upper fiber]

you know the devs want to torture the players when you see stuff like that

[vast iron]

surely harvesting every mushroom, rock and herb of this species wont cause irreversable damage to the environment…

[hoary crag]

am I thinking exactly who you're thinking about

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[dark furnace]

i think only endmin can go through the origrium stones, lorewise even the operators can't use those tp

[near flower]

You don't even need drones, just a stationary camera

[small creek]

i was about to ask what happened here but realized my buckA just capped

[vast iron]

so do they just get airdropped from the dijang every time..?

or wha

how do they get back

[wispy grove]

bro please i hope they do cause its so painful running in lodespring

[small creek]

fuck lodespring just offload the deliveries

[dark furnace]

yea, i forgot who but one of the operator said they droppod everytime they want to go from dijang to talos II

[near flower]

Imagine operator with a wheelchair on zipline

[small creek]

its laevatain

[dark furnace]

it's a short trip to them but it's tedious

[wispy grove]

the bounce when you go off the zipline will be immaculate

[vast iron]

"this operator cannot use this facility" tooltip soon

[small creek]

Lemuen says hello

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[elder thistle]

But if she does come back as a Reconvener (ignoring her uninfected status) then she wouldn't have the wheelchair anymore

Like Eyja/Ardelia

[dark furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/wheelchair-tricks-moves-cool-cant-walk-gif-5594004

[wispy grove]

I got stuck

[elder thistle]

Unless it's like 170 year old Lemuen as a badass grandma

Then maybe

[vast iron]

i find the fact some people are praying for their favorite character to contract cancer oddly entertaining

[dark furnace]

have you tried turning her off and on

[wispy grove]

cant

[hoary crag]

it's all according to her plan

[wispy grove]

i just teleport instead

[vast iron]

endfield is a mind trick ig

[dark furnace]

but why, they don't need cancer to get super power

[elder thistle]

Doktah: "Noooo Priestess you can't infect people with Originium that hurts them!"

Priestess: "You get to have 2 of them"

Doktah: "...tell me more"

[vast iron]

Duplication glitch yes please

[vast iron]

its more than just 2 no? Forgot

[elder thistle]

I don't think they've mentioned a limit, presumably you can just keep printing them if it's just literally the data

If it's tied to some "soul" thing then uh I guess limit of 1 at a time?

[hoary crag]

[elder thistle]

But so far we've only seen the original and 1 Reconvener so 2

[hoary crag]

I don't think originium has the means to copy data though, only encode and decode. it would explain why the characters are as-is in arknights. although it does leave some questions when it comes to endfield.

1. are reconveners actually clones? or a separate version or moreso a continuation of their original counterparts. the latter might more or less align with a certain someone's vision.
2. AIC facilities and how they are placed are clearly done by originium. However, the fact that we have to gather materials to craft them in the first place, as well as the fact that we need to produce things instead of just infinitely copy-pasting using originum, means that originium can't copy data.
   2.5. the only exception to this afaik would be the metastorage transfer, which the game literally says is a copy-paste feature of the AIC, which implies, through originium

[elder thistle]

Originium can't generate matter/energy from nothing but it can convert other matter/energy into different things

So as long as raw material is given, and the formula to produce something is known, it should be technically possible to copy physical objects

We already know it does that for energy, i.e. Arts

[elder thistle]

Theresa's flowers might be an example of this, depending on if she was simply unzipping an existing field or recreating flowers from raw Originium, I don't recall if it was specified off the top of my head

[upbeat blade]

this exhausted pretty much every current wooling natural resources right?

[pulsar cypress]

*if your ore current yield and usage say so..

[upbeat blade]

i used the meme loop to regulate ore output so the usage could be skewed? i think?

[young igloo]

isnt that just 30/m?

[young stag]

show your ore yields

[young igloo]

sr mb

thought that was a converger

i really need to sleep

[upbeat blade]

awww i just logged off

[wispy grove]

cooked ahh brain

we all have bad sleep schedule yes?

[upbeat blade]

i spent like 5-6 hours brewing factories

(it broke down thrice)

huh

this meant i have like, half of a blue ore output to make blue med?

[wispy grove]

34k is insane

[pulsar cypress]

As long as the ore at cap value and used..
Ig yea, you exhausted the resources nicely..

[upbeat blade]

nice, thanks

[upbeat blade]

oh yea, back then when i exhauste outpost money i changed one of the battery output to make gear exclusively until the money run halfway

so i never have any problem with gear crafting (aside from money to make them)

[tacit quarry]

is DIGE worth doing?

[lean frost]

Why are you making lc bats?

I suppose because of the gear components

Should probably just devote all of that xiranite you’re using on lc bats to make more gear components so you can switch to making more sc bats sooner

[upbeat blade]

since i make gear there's not enough ogiginium to make a 6/6 small battery

figured i could make a really shitty purple battery and the rest of them could went to make small battery

[lost belfry]

The electricity for valley and wuling are separate, yes?

[lean frost]

Isn’t it the same ratio?

It takes 120/min originium to make a full production of gear components right?

[storm garnet]

mmm, this is on both units after 16 hours...

[upbeat blade]

no, only 60

[storm garnet]

yesterday was fine, being at basically 0 when i came back after it was about 10 online the day before

[upbeat blade]

idk i made it at like 3am and cant be bothered to calculate it

[upbeat blade]

aint the output being stable = good

[lean frost]

I’m looking online and it says 10 origocrost + 1 xiranite = 1 gear component

Origocrust = 1 dense origocrust powder = 2 origocrust powder = 2 originium ore

[upbeat blade]

no it's 10/10 iirc

so ratio is 1:1

[lean frost]

?

[upbeat blade]

yes

[lean frost]

Oh, yes. You’re right, that’s my bad

[storm garnet]

how is 26 more than 0 stable?

this means it will clog in less than 2 days

[pulsar cypress]

If you wanna minamax energy consumption..

[lean frost]

What are you using your metatransfer on?

[upbeat blade]

dense ogiginium

[upbeat blade]

so it's rising?

am just joined the server so i might be missing some context here

[frozen summit]

I hope we get more originium nodes

[tacit quarry]

from what I under stand is DIGE doesnt have belt, but I can use it right only main split route that matter?

[storm garnet]

yes, it was at 0 before i went offline for 16 hours, that's what i meant

[upbeat blade]

huh

i guess you could fix it by branching out the pipe and put another water treatment

[pulsar cypress]

No belt for the contraption calculations only, the rest is can.
Like for the one go out or return to the depot..

[storm garnet]

i already have extra ones for that, but they were turned off to test if the new fix was actually working

and i guess the fix is not good enough

i would blame the cuprium refineries, but then it should be that they make less sewage, not more

so it has to be the reactors still being slow

or the treatment units themselves

[tacit quarry]

is this correct? or i do need splitter/coverger

[young igloo]

need more

you know what

[upbeat blade]

did you connect 2 copium refinery to one waterline?

[tacit quarry]

or wait i forgot to connect top part

[young igloo]

this gonna be facked up when u go offline anyway

[tacit quarry]

fix it, already

[storm garnet]

i'm not asking for help, i've been around here for a while testing offline bugs, i'm just informing everyone that the bug still exists

[upbeat blade]

no no

i'm just wondering how that happened

what is this bug anyway?

[storm garnet]

reactors and/or treatment units being slow while offline

[jovial breach]

Reactor is real buggy yeah

[storm garnet]

on the pic, each pipe coming from above has 3 sewage sources each

the pipe going to the right goes to 2 treatment units

well, 4, but 2 should be unneeded

[upbeat blade]

oh, that's why my reactor keeps getting sewage capped after i fixed it

[storm garnet]

it was supossedly fixed in an update like 2 or 3 days ago, but it's still going

[dark furnace]

are you feeding xircon directly to the packaging unit

[storm garnet]

i think it got better at least

[storm garnet]

no

[dark furnace]

um

then I have no idea

[storm garnet]

sc got a dip on the 2h graph,btw

which makes sense if sewage is not used at full by the reactors

[dark furnace]

because people still with sewage issue is now caused by the belt bug, clogging xircon in crucible, and clogs the xircon eff back and so the usage of sewage

[storm garnet]

so it should be the reactors fault

mmm

not clogged, but not zero...

also, ferrium low too

still, since it's not clogged or zero ferrium, it should still be fine

sewage wise i mean

[young igloo]

thats a lot of logistic

[dark furnace]

my xircon always clogged overnight now

planning to change the output to stash

then depot the xircon to packaging

[storm garnet]

that's to get sewage priority to fill the reactors before going to treatment units

[young igloo]

[storm garnet]

ok, i think i got the problem: xiranite belts

2 of my 4 liquid xiranite reactors only use 1 xiranite belt

then, let's say reactors are not the problem, but the belts then

man, i'll have to end up making exclusive reactors for food, and more loaders and unloaders for xircon/ferrium powder

the second part is fine, but more reactors, aka 50 energy, is not...

[dark furnace]

i already seperated the yazhen crucible alone...

it doesn't look good despite it's more compact

as I only need one crucible for yazhen A instead of two

[jovial breach]

I mean just use inlet

[dark furnace]

i dont make yazhen C now

[storm garnet]

if i want to make enough liquid food for 2 ferrium packagers and 2 cuprium packagers, i need 2 reactors, but 1 will probably be off most of the time. still, 100 energy

i guess the future optimization is making yazhen a and jincao c

[dark furnace]

the 30/m ferrium is being used to make 1.5/m HC valley battery, that adds to 4.5k energy with 1.5/m SC battery

[storm garnet]

my problem with hc is that i want to either use hc or sc

[dark furnace]

I am at 4.2k rn so I can just focus on trading SC battery and yazhen A instead of swapping between the 3

[storm garnet]

my energy usage is 3.5k at most

[dark furnace]

then use origrium

[upbeat blade]

am at 4k3

[jovial breach]

Sounds about right

[young igloo]

mine is 4k

[jovial breach]

I cant run both c med and component

[young igloo]

can still be reduce using hydraulic rig but i dont

[dark furnace]

yea most people are below 4.5k so 1 SC wuling + 1 HC valley is pretty good option

[storm garnet]

for sc, you just get below 3.4k and easy, for hc you need 3 banks of hc, so you need to manually move them from v4 and still uses quite a bit

[young igloo]

running this give 4k1 btw

[storm garnet]

also, with making some hc in wuling, you lose some sc originium

[young igloo]

[storm garnet]

i think you can make 0.5/min hc with meta dense og

or less

[dark furnace]

you just need to depot 25/m dense ori powder from existing valley HC battery production line, then meta trasfer 1500/h, and package it into HC battery with the wuling 30/m ferrium

[storm garnet]

no, it has to be more, meta hc itself is 0.5 no?

[dark furnace]

you can only meta transfer 30/h HC battery, so yea

0.5/m

so people have to transfer 1500/h ori or dense ori powder because you are making them in valley already

[tacit quarry]

3% battery before recharge, but is it worth?

[dark furnace]

1500/h ori can be converted to 1.5/m HC

[storm garnet]

too low, too risky

[dark furnace]

just fit

[pulsar cypress]

I would up it..
In case of bugged/lagging ur factory will died..

[dark furnace]

not worth it especially you just started

[fervent spoke]

at that point of min maxing you can also send over batteries manually from all the excess in the valley xD

once a week

[storm garnet]

you can make 1.66 hc, ye, i was making the math wrong for a bit and was confused, calc said it was 0.27 at first lol

[dark furnace]

had enough of manual transferring ferrium

[jovial breach]

I never plan around doing dijang transfer

[dark furnace]

capped by the 30/m ferrium mainly

[storm garnet]

but yea, this is only worth it if you want to have 4.5k energy

[dark furnace]

yep

[storm garnet]

anything else needs manual labor

[young igloo]

[storm garnet]

maybe i'll do it in 1.2

[dark furnace]

ngl it would takes quite some excess machines to be 4.5k+

I have everything seperated, map filled with pylons and ziplines but yet I am only at 4.2k

i also eco farm

[upbeat blade]

1.2 will not give us any blue ore node 😔

[dark furnace]

and placed max turrets at the arlluvium

so yea 4.5k would take more than you need

[storm garnet]

i just want to get at least those current ones to high purity

[tacit quarry]

how much do you think I should go for ? 40%

[dark furnace]

imagine the devs who responsible for calculating how much ores we need are now scratching their heads figuring out the best ratios

in 1.2

[storm garnet]

some ratios in this game are made by the same guy that makes the ingame currency packages sold in games be just a little more or short of the value of something in the game

[tacit quarry]

my current build, battery start charging at 17% then back to 100

[dark furnace]

or maybe they just use a dart to decide

[pulsar cypress]

40 can..
Me personally 50-60.. So have safety spare for experimenting blueprints and in case adding more facilities/zips..

[storm garnet]

omg, yes, good news of the day: i fixed all belt problems from my xiranite lines

had to make 1 extra sandleaf loop down the line, but worth it

[fervent spoke]

cleaned up mine too XD

[storm garnet]

wait, no, nvm, there are some machines that are not full, fuck

this game is a nightmare

[young igloo]

just realized i cant sell jincao tea at outpost

fml

[fervent spoke]

worth it. I like those numbers, once im capped with components it jumps to 6 syringes

and 12 batteries xD ofcs

[storm garnet]

another victim

[storm garnet]

careful with xiranite capping too soon

[fervent spoke]

huh?

[storm garnet]

you are making 120/min xiranite, but using 100

[fervent spoke]

im not :x

[storm garnet]

even if it says 120, maybe cause the reactors are on

1/min comp uses 10, not 30

9 sc uses 90

ah, i missed xiranite comp, still missing 10 more

[fervent spoke]

its 15 to each comp facility

[storm garnet]

ah, ok

damn graph not showing decimals

[graceful otter]

just one splitter not gonna increase input

[fervent spoke]

once it gets clogged all moves to syringe 😄

[young igloo]

yeah i should copy this

[storm garnet]

i just get 1 belt of parts from depot, it clogs anyways

20 less energy too

[fervent spoke]

not producing any extra parts

i could just funnel behind the fitting unit thats true

[storm garnet]

you can just get a second belt from 1 of those 2 fitting units in the middle and put it on the gearing unit. maybe even 2 belts to make sure it clogs it

[dreamy jungle]

If I let water pass through the crucible, will the speed remain the same, or is it set to 0.5/s?

[storm garnet]

it will use half it the recipe uses any, if not, full speed

though i think it prioritizes the output at full speed, i need to test it myself

i haven't used that technique much

[fervent spoke]

yeah pass through is prioritized before using. at least its like that last time i tested

[sonic summit]

meanwhile the things that i need to do to make 5,75 syringe

[dreamy jungle]

Hmm will test it myself when I have time

[storm garnet]

you shouldn't put different types of items on the same protocol stash

can't wait to get a new pac to get more space to... fix belt problems

[upbeat blade]

why d'ya need to make extra red gear thingy?

[sonic summit]

? you mean cuprium

[upbeat blade]

yea

copium or whatever

[wispy grove]

[upbeat blade]

i have 17k ish stocked up and that should be enough for me until the new patch

[sonic summit]

get it from mineral bed just like other ore?

[storm garnet]

he means components

[upbeat blade]

yea, and i was asking why do you need to stock those up

aint it better to just commit everything to make 6/min drug?

[storm garnet]

ah, great, i forgot a reactor is not 50 energy, it's 60, cause of water

[young igloo]

craft facility and component?

[upbeat blade]

...

huh

guess i am the only one who stock up base components before brewing factories

[young igloo]

depends

[sonic summit]

to make gearing and saving for facility

[young igloo]

i have spare 15k copium part

[storm garnet]

i got almost 19k cuprium comp atm, after using a few thousands to craft gear. it's been a few days since i stopped making them

[upbeat blade]

you dont need that much red gear thing

[upbeat blade]

same

[storm garnet]

for xiranite comp i have almost 40k i think

34k actually

[upbeat blade]

like, 10-15k ish should last you like, until forever

[young igloo]

yeah

i use xiranite to sacrifice anyway

[sonic summit]

it must growth

[storm garnet]

by the time we use 10k comps of any type, a new type will appear prob

unless you want to max a lot of characters

[sonic summit]

i am building 4 team rn

[tacit quarry]

is offline belt not working rumor true?

[young igloo]

yes

[storm garnet]

"rumor"

[sonic summit]

yeep it was fact

[young igloo]

called taxes for a reason

[storm garnet]

yesterday i was called liar twice lol

[upbeat blade]

4 teams assuming all diff char + all of them equip red gears = 3k2 red gears needed

[sonic summit]

i need to do this to make sure the dige working

[upbeat blade]

but you likely wont, so again, you dont need that much

[sonic summit]

artificing too ?

[tacit quarry]

what is the point of middle part connect 2 output port?

[upbeat blade]

you can use green gear to upgrade them

[stoic lark]

pipe spaghetti

[sonic summit]

ITS a bridge

[storm garnet]

another day of remaking the whole factory cause of belt bugs...

[tacit quarry]

also it only seem to effect battery, but not production line ?

[tacit quarry]

oh i totally forgot about bridge

[young igloo]

nah just do some human sacrificing ritual to one shot all sacrifice

i often get a 9/9 under 20 hit

[sonic summit]

BRUV i need to do 2 belt because it keep cloging the sewage output

[upbeat blade]

real

i pitied gear enchanting once

it was not fun

[young igloo]

im not building my 2nd team lol

[sonic summit]

welp

[young igloo]

thought i have all character rn

they are only for labour

[upbeat blade]

i dont have kitty cat yey

no twink either

[tacit quarry]

atm only alesh gear worth upgrading secondary stats, because int stat

[young igloo]

xaihi?

man

my girl

[upbeat blade]

no

the twink

the green haired one

my nun is maxed

[young igloo]

nah im talking bout 2nd stat upgrading

[tacit quarry]

you get like 12 int from upgrade 2 kits, 6 int each

[young igloo]

the twink can f off

[young igloo]

still worth

every

[tacit quarry]

• i mean gear 2nd row

[young igloo]

int

worth

[upbeat blade]

real

[tacit quarry]

not secondary character stats

[young igloo]

im still maxxing them cause i only got 1 team to feed lol

[upbeat blade]

am upgrading all

all in

[young igloo]

i do regret pulling for laevi sometime

120 pulls and sig for nothing

[tacit quarry]

why? isn't she has one of the most flexible gameplay

[upbeat blade]

she's nice but gameplay is yawn inducting

just hold left click and dodge sometimes

[jovial breach]

Your xaihi should be like 720 something int with p0 deto

[tacit quarry]

711 with P0 deto

[young igloo]

cuh my cryo team is 6 cost

[tacit quarry]

and max gear

[young igloo]

• sig = 9 cost

[young igloo]

dont have one

[tacit quarry]

6 cost?

[young igloo]

3 yv 2 soup and 1 gil

[tacit quarry]

you mean dupe?

[storm garnet]

i'm once again asking for an extra tile

[young igloo]

i used to be in hoyo game comunity so

yk

[storm garnet]

nvm, i found a way, i think

[young igloo]

you get it anyway

[young igloo]

move the bus up 1 tile

then put a loader vertically

[jovial breach]

Wait i have 737 with p1 deto

[young igloo]

im using starry beach

[tacit quarry]

try this

[young igloo]

i still have the 2 weapon box with detonate in it but idk

[tacit quarry]

more clear image, I call it super unloader gap

[storm garnet]

might do that in the future

[young igloo]

1.2 i guess

im happy with my spaghetti for now

[upbeat blade]

you didnt even need that much unloader 😭

[storm garnet]

you would be surprised with how many are needed if you want to optimize offline belts...

[turbid bough]

Can someone check if their reactor crucible is doing 2 reactions at the same time?
I think it broke after last patch

[tiny topaz]

behold, carbonation.

i think i finally got it mostly efficient

[tacit quarry]

comparing zigzag bus
8 vs 6 depot

[storm garnet]

mine was fine doing 2 things a bit before

[young igloo]

still work

[tiny topaz]

ive been thinking of trying this too, running it down the middle and doing a zigzag like that might give more openings

[young igloo]

i dont do that but still working

[tiny topaz]

yeah ive had issues w doing multiple in one reactor even tho its possible

[storm garnet]

nice online setup

[tacit quarry]

for now it's efficient way
but right now I have no use for it

[tiny topaz]

loves to get clogged and confused

[turbid bough]

confused cat

[tiny topaz]

online?

actually i just came up w it myself lol

[young igloo]

try xiranite

[storm garnet]

i mean, it works while you are online ingame

[tiny topaz]

does it not work when you're offline???

[jovial breach]

You're only using 50% of the production

[tiny topaz]

what am i missing here?

[storm garnet]

belts are quantum in the game, they only exist properly when you look at them

[jovial breach]

Carbon makes 2 dust

[tacit quarry]

better better BP isn't the one that use smallest space,
but the one that has consistency rate
and the most important easy to understnad what this part do

[tiny topaz]

yeah i got 2 carbon dust there dont i?

[dark furnace]

bueatiful

[tiny topaz]

OH

i see now

[wispy grove]

MY BROTHA

[young igloo]

1 plant make 2 carbon

[jovial breach]

2 carbon so 4 dust

[wispy grove]

youre the 2ND CASE

we need more

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[storm garnet]

so not even good online lol

[young igloo]

scrodinger aic

[turbid bough]

x2

[storm garnet]

behold what i need to do to make 2 xiranite lines work offline

[tacit quarry]

I use Kyostiv build, but modify cuprium line, so I can have stable Syringe [A]
the belt on the left is for Red gear

[wispy grove]

this is case 1

[upbeat blade]

damn, you didnt have any line on gears at all?

[wispy grove]

is it clogged?

[storm garnet]

you have xiranite inside, you need to get it out

just stash it and put it back, it's the fastest way

[dark furnace]

why do I need to make them when I have 25k components

[upbeat blade]

eh, that's fair

[young igloo]

fack gear

[dark furnace]

I focused on making them for a few days then go back to 12/m battery

[wispy grove]

well what my picture is pointing out, is that it doesnt produce xiranite liquid

[young igloo]

same

[upbeat blade]

i have like, 40k right now

[turbid bough]

not clogged only input because it's just reacting once instead of twice

[upbeat blade]

maybe i should ditch it altogether in a few days

idk

[storm garnet]

i was comparing to the other pic, but idk why you have food there then if you are doing double food reactors

[wispy grove]

but there should be a mixed solution here

[storm garnet]

try doing the stash anyways

[turbid bough]

double food reactor worked perfectly since 1.0. Suddenly it doesnt

100% related to the patch imho

[storm garnet]

i'm mixing up who is who lol

[tacit quarry]

I'm thinking about reducing Protocal stash usage

[storm garnet]

everyone, stash everything and start the factory from zero

[wispy grove]

hell nah

[fervent spoke]

i just cleaned up my factory :c

[storm garnet]

it will probably work for most people actually

[tacit quarry]

it cost 5 power, and I use like 10+

[storm garnet]

i use 1 single protocol stash in wuling, for the emergency energy setup

[young igloo]

i use like

5?

4 xiranite and 1 yazhen

[turbid bough]

so completely emptied it out

[young igloo]

does it work?

[turbid bough]

nope still bugged