aic-factory

[storm garnet]

well, by the point you need to use planters, everyone should know how to use pylons anyways

[thick plume]

Very true

[storm garnet]

weird shape

[brittle jackal]

Upward?

[thick plume]

Unless youre like me and started out with a crazy amethyst production line blueprint from day 1 of my factory

Was producing so many buck c

[fervent tendon]

twin

[pulsar cypress]

The stash yess.. From this image facing upward..

[thick plume]

My battery production was so inefficient in the beginning too

[fervent tendon]

bro batteries r gonna be the DEATH OF ME

i have 34 k

their just NOT GOING INTO THE DAMN THERMAL BANK PROPERLY

so i switch to orginium ore just for now

[thick plume]

I have 80k v4 batteries and like 30k wuling now

I have too many

[fervent tendon]

im so proud

[thick plume]

Want me to send you some?

[fervent tendon]

uc an trade in the game?

[young igloo]

can u

[thick plume]

No lmao, but imagine if you could

[fervent tendon]

i havent unlocked wuiling yet bc im finishing everything in valley first

[fervent tendon]

thatd be crazy

[thick plume]

Id be offloading my 80k stacks of carbon daily

[fervent tendon]

lmaooo

[young igloo]

lmao the way i skipped valley so fast

[fervent tendon]

im almost done with everything in valley so i should be in wuiling in like 2 days bc i wanna delete everything in my factoryu and organize it more

[thick plume]

I just have zero idea whag to do with carbon ngl, i have so much but never use the excess

[fervent tendon]

im that type of guy whyere i need to finish the entire area first

[fervent tendon]

u can use it for diff tytpes of carbon and powder

[young igloo]

i swear if i restart on another account imma reach wuling in 2 day

[fervent tendon]

since the beginning of the game my factory hasnt shut down or ran outta materials

[fervent tendon]

lmaooo i cant bro i need to see everything completed to its full potential

im only on valley but like ima t the point to where we need to teleport so i paused and did sidequests and exploration my lvl is 51 rn lol

and region is 10

[thick plume]

Thats the problem, i got like 3 types of carbon

[young igloo]

not 12?

wow

[coral orchid]

why sewage had different color?

[fervent tendon]

still developing the other spots thingy

bc ion wanna go bankrupt

[young igloo]

pink liquid?

gonna be a nice decoration

[brittle jackal]

I hope that's the correct one

[fervent tendon]

goodjob doing better then me alrdy

[young igloo]

just feed it to the aic atp

[fervent tendon]

[fervent tendon]

wait why ru using protocol stash

[young igloo]

reduce your protocol stash

it will help with the power problem

[brittle jackal]

What I've to use

[young igloo]

[fervent tendon]

its beginning game let him go thru it lmao

[pulsar cypress]

Remove this, doesn't needed..
So the plant all goes to stash..
Then all good..

[fervent tendon]

he needs to suffer.

[young igloo]

nah just copy the blueprint somewhere

took me 8h on the launch day to finish the aic lmao

[fervent tendon]

i took my time

cuz i read everything to understand the factory

which was a pain in the ass

but aye i got through it

[young igloo]

gratz

i did every simulation manually

[fervent tendon]

me too

heh

wait did i idk

ik theirs alotta space thats why im gonna reset the factory soon

but im maxing out on materials first

[young igloo]

not HC stuff?

ur gonna stuck with this for a long time lol

[fervent tendon]

im maxed on all battteries except hc

[fervent tendon]

hc idc ill use orginium ore

bc i never run outta that stuff

I did sum like this as a substitution

[young igloo]

not a good idea to go slow pace but you do you lol

[fervent tendon]

bc i rushed through wuwa and i got power crept lol

until i got cartethyia

[jovial breach]

[fervent tendon]

so u think i should go to wuiling right now

[storm garnet]

it's a game, have fun

[fervent tendon]

[jovial breach]

I wouldn't put pressure on you but

[gritty skiff]

Do the green batteries first they're easy to farm

[fervent tendon]

its no pressure just when i get to wuiling gonna be new water system tank or wtv its called

[fervent tendon]

im maxed on em alrdy

and im maxed on sc too

which is the blue

[young igloo]

a vnese dude

a cultured one too

[gritty skiff]

Use em tbh to increase power

[brittle jackal]

It got clogged

[jovial breach]

I got to wuling and it's both amazing and hellish at the same time

[fervent tendon]

i do but they aint going into my damn thermal banks

[brittle jackal]

Idk what did I do wrong

[gritty skiff]

Nice

[fervent tendon]

they generate at a slow pace bc i doint have enough orginium powder speed

so once i restart ill do that

[thorn pike]

no fgkin way there's 2 nguyens now

[brittle jackal]

It got clogged

[young igloo]

maybe you maxed the item

[gritty skiff]

What's wrong about bucks clogged?

[brittle jackal]

How many should I put

[young igloo]

check your inventory

[worthy forum]

Work in progress in Wuling (rip symmetry)

[young igloo]

a symmetry dude

same dude

same

[jovial breach]

[young igloo]

my creation

[thorny galleon]

Lesson learned: do not pass the sewage through the same fluid reactor that you’re making xircon fluid

[worthy forum]

Why can't they let me reorient the input/output pipes on the buildings

[thorny galleon]

It’ll eventually mix when a blackout or resource goof happens

[gritty skiff]

Damn right

[young igloo]

kaboom when stuff gone wrong update when?

[young igloo]

yeah ts

[thorny galleon]

I thought I was clever ;-;
Had to make some big adjustments while I was sitting here at work (AIC is a pain on mobile, as is combat)

[young igloo]

working with pipes and reactor succ cuz i cant do it symmetry

[thorny galleon]

I want a “flip” button, not just rotate

[young igloo]

everything ass on mobile lol

[brittle jackal]

I'm getting this

[thorny galleon]

I wanted to put this game on steam deck, but I’m having trouble ;-;

[young igloo]

tbh i dont even know whats your problem lmao

[brittle jackal]

How do I fix it now

[young igloo]

let it clog

[brittle jackal]

Why

[jovial breach]

Pls use top view

[young igloo]

you have enough buckflower

[brittle jackal]

I've alot

[storm garnet]

check the stash

[thorny galleon]

Is your inventory maxed out on buckflower?

[young igloo]

plant is infinite resource cause you can just duplicate it

let it clog

dont bother it

[thorny galleon]

Protocol stash can’t stash if there’s no place to stash

[young igloo]

go do some amethyst stuff

baterry or smth

or do some simulation

you will learn a lot more than firebuckle

[brittle jackal]

Isn't there any better Stash then protocol?

I'm trying to unlock Lucky carrot but it coast alot

[fringe summit]

No

[brittle jackal]

Oof

I need like 50 buck capsules B

[supple sierra]

Yo I just placed mining machines on every mining spots in valley IV but my amethyst yield is 178/min and not 180/min why?

[brittle jackal]

But idk how

[thick plume]

Are you at max capacity

Or what level is your regional development?

[supple sierra]

10

[thick plume]

How mucg amethyst is in your depot

[supple sierra]

70000 exactly now

[thick plume]

It might be your current cap then if your depot nodes arent all max level 4

[thick plume]

So income will be lower than its actual amount due to not being able to place excess

Yea thats why

[supple sierra]

Yeah one node is still lv 3

[thick plume]

Yea. Every time you hit max capacity, it either stops mining entirely or lowers to match the usage amount

[supple sierra]

So leveling it up will fix the issue right?

[thick plume]

Theres no actual issue there

The moment you use up more amethyst, itll return to normal

[supple sierra]

Ok thank u bro

[thick plume]

No problem, a good way to check for the ores is tap those 3 dots and compare your current usage to theoretical usage

[brittle jackal]

How many buck capsules B I've to sell to get 36000 valley ticket

[thick plume]

Sorry, theoretical yield to current yield

For example, my originium has a 480 theoretical yield but a current yield of 440 due to being near max capacity in my storage

[thick plume]

Whats the selling price

27, so lemme check

13,334

[jovial tartan]

Did I overdo it?

[thick plume]

You should see mine

For wuling

[brittle jackal]

I've this much

[thick plume]

I got like 18 towers

[brittle jackal]

How many more i need?

[jovial tartan]

HAHAHAHAH FIREEE

[keen river]

if you mean the items to trade, about few millions

[tropic plover]

Chat, when I mine originum ore in wuling, i don't find it in the protocol management, it still shows 0/8000, what am I doing wrong? It works normally in the Valley though, with any mine by the way

[thick plume]

Do you have the mines and xiranite pylons placed

And are the mines set to transfer

[keen river]

well, click on the miner and see what it says

[tropic plover]

No, just the portable mining

[thick plume]

Use the actual miners

Mk1

So it can transfer to the aic

[earnest ruin]

Which side of data is accurate to used, my factory are fully powered

[thick plume]

Current usage

Unless youre full

[keen river]

left side is accurate

[tropic plover]

For originum? The basic one doesn't do the auto transfer?

[thick plume]

The mk1 does do auto transfer

Not the portable miner

[keen river]

there are 4 different miners

portable does no transfer

mk1 does

[serene geyser]

portable rig never sent it to stash

even in v4

[tropic plover]

I'll try it out, thanks for the help everyone @serene geyser @thick plume @keen river

[thick plume]

Np

[keen river]

np

[thick plume]

I do recommend using xiranite relays/pylons tho so you dont have to drag powerlines directly

If youre new to wuling, would let xiranite build up so you can do so

[tropic plover]

Yeah, once I sort out the originum I'll build some more

[thick plume]

If needed, you can go to Dijang and transfer some originium directly using tp point

To get yourself jumpstarted

[fervent spoke]

can't even move facilities, server why :c

[tropic plover]

Will consider it, thanks a bunch

[thick plume]

Np

[marble marsh]

Don't question it I don't have space in valley and I want to start making a Zipline network

[iron spoke]

during the early stages its also fine to just use 1 dense originium supply line for the LC battery recipe. and using a splitter to bank 2/3rds of your xiranite until you get enough miners up for 3 dense originium lines.

[stoic panther]

Might as well put amethyst to use

[jovial breach]

the bp planner website in the pins is still not updated to 1.1?

[thick plume]

Guess this is one way to get ferrium parts

[bright zodiac]

GUYS, I GUESS THEY really fixED crucible

i no longer lose cuprium and xircon over time....

[young igloo]

an attempt to make it space efficient

[brittle jackal]

Anyone knows how to make buck capsules B factor

[brittle jackal]

How do I transfer buck flowers

[young igloo]

belt?

[brittle jackal]

Form output?

[young igloo]

straight from the planting work

[brittle jackal]

Ah gotcha

Thanks

[coral orchid]

So dev already fixed it?

@atomic fiber

[iron spoke]

what does this mean for backfeeding?

[coral orchid]

nah, they haven't

What did they fixed

[dense furnace]

What plant has the most efficient Carbon production?

[uneven aspen]

no it was fixed

[jade temple]

MISSINPUT 🤡

[keen river]

nothing of value was really lost

[keen river]

either of wuling ones

[jade temple]

i had everything farmed up so i dont have to but now i need to farm this every 4 days again 😭

[keen river]

you use so few of those mats that it really doesnt matter

you can pick them when you need them

[smoky eagle]

Jincao and Yazhen

[keen river]

im not even sure if igneosite is used for anything other than tuning weapons on lvl80

[brittle jackal]

This ok?

[coral orchid]

then why the graph are looking like that?

[uneven aspen]

I had all the extra protocol stashes filled with xircon, 3,000 of them.

then they are belted to the 2 normally operating xircon reactors.

If the reactors got taxed it would eat the 3,000 backup xircon

in a 2 hour, 3 hour and 6 hours offline none of the extra xircon got eaten

so the reactors are operating normally

[uneven aspen]

idk your setup even with the taxes the dips are all the same height

i see the 2 dips in the battery at different heights

[uncut rock]

Question do we have an output in the new area?

[uneven aspen]

outpost? nope

[uncut rock]

Boo

[coral orchid]

So basically what they fixed is that transport belt right?

[bold linden]

is there a difference in production if fluid mode is on iin planting unit and vice versa

[uneven aspen]

they fixed the reactor crucibles

they aren't taxing the output anymore

so it's something else causing it

[smoky eagle]

funky zipline blocked sometimes lol

[somber arch]

I have a question for the maximum yield in Wuling. I reached delevopment level 9 (max), every mining spot has a mining rig (MK2 or the hydro one for the new ore). But I’m still missing some yield (originium should be 489 iirc) . Did I miss something? Everything is upgraded so far, no missing mining spots

[uneven aspen]

what's your theoretical say for the yields?

[brittle jackal]

Is there any better way to make Blue bottles

[uneven aspen]

if they aren't the same as mine, you missed mining spots somewhere

or if you're using hydro rigs for them maybe not enough water

[somber arch]

Ahhh that can be a solution! Thank you

[iron spoke]

I was missing that exact amount and the chat here showed me this as the fix #aic-factory message

[somber arch]

OMFG THANK YOU

that little space really got by unnoticed hahahahaha

[coral orchid]

Are the transport belt bug already getting fixed yet?

[uneven aspen]

no idea

i have no idea how we would know what the devs are working on or fixing

if they are even aware of the belt bug

or not

[vast iron]

Fuck we have bad cycles in endfield now
iykyk

[uneven aspen]

I think the devs fixed the enemies can't going through factory units

[young igloo]

they still can

the cage isnt working since 1.0

[uneven aspen]

it was working yesterday

since i had to clear out all the expiring sanity pots

this didn't happen in 5+ runs

well today's 3 runs they keep going through

[smoky eagle]

i somehow have more amethyst than Cuprium in Wuling 💀

[crystal canopy]

yall what the heckis causing my yields to drop by 1 for buck/battery this is driving me insane, i cant see anything in my actual layout
[graph is over 1day, if i look at smaller time periods itll say 18 sometimes, but no way to really diagnose the issue afaict]

[dark furnace]

belt bug

endure it until devs fix it

[crystal canopy]

ok so im not bad

cause it was working like, a couiple days ago but i redid my factory cause of power stuff

[dark furnace]

if you see people connecting multiple belts to machines that are suppose to only need one belt, they are working around the bug

[crystal canopy]

is tried doing that myself but it didnt seem to help :(

[tough scarab]

belts are a little wonky when logging on/off

[crystal canopy]

guess ill wait for a fix

[dark furnace]

@wispy grove my latest layout, 53x32 excluded cuprium part refiners
I moved in two columns by redoing the cuprium refiners

[uneven aspen]

7 day aic report should be at 23 and 18 yields

so belt bug probably

[iron spoke]

hey guys what do I need to set the input flows to for this to prevent the alternating from breaking in my gearing unit?

[shrewd knoll]

It blocks them for like a second but they can go through now

just remove your party members when you do it so enemies have nothing to target if you are out of the combat zone or high grounds

[vast iron]

Have the converger prioritize the loop circuit ig? Dont exactly understand what youre looking for

[uneven aspen]

yeah but if you do that it's slower

the trick was to hide behind a building so they can all burn

while they group inside a killzone of fire towers

[shrewd knoll]

they dont move if there is nothing to target so its actually faster

your party members give them a target so they move towards them

[iron spoke]

i guess I need to clog my gearing unit with xiranite. it breaks when somehow it fills with cuppart and packed orig

[vast iron]

I assume thats because the refining unit fills with packed origocrust if the xiranite isnt being used fast enough

Well you can put a stash between the 2 or splitter it into the stash as an alternative
Both come with some issues tho, if you fill up with packed origo in any way

Best solution is probably just running 2 refiners but i assume you want to save power

[iron spoke]

eh if I continue to struggle I guess I'll give up and use seperate facilities

[vast iron]

Its possible if you just input more xiranite
Brute force it like that can work

Since rn the packed origo is clogging

Clogging/matching 1-1 xiranite shouldnt break

[vast iron]

Also is that CUPRIUM PARTS?

[iron spoke]

yes lol

[versed ermine]

i made this little contraption to secure a 55 ferrium per minute supply for an extra yazhen syringe c line

[coral orchid]

wth is this?

[lean frost]

Have they fixed the offline sewage bug yet

[coral orchid]

alternating?

[versed ermine]

this is the goal of that contraption, to use all the ferrium in wuling for credit production without starving the wuling SC battery production

[viscid plover]

damn less people are doing delivery now? having a 79.8k carry over the 2nd day without anyone picking up is wild

[somber snow]

mine always finishes 5 minutes after i send it

[coral orchid]

XD

[iron spoke]

between component types

[uneven aspen]

Is your friend lists active?

I always get the same people to delivery their packages to. I suspect it's based off friend lists.

[smoky eagle]

so cleannnn

[smoky eagle]

transferred, i'm lazy today

yay i think i won't run out of cuprium ore anymORE

[versed ermine]

i always transfer even if i can and like running the wuling deliveries, just to keep the ball rolling and others can get their 3 daily deliveries too

[manic jolt]

Can someone point me to a youtube video or a doc of some sort regarding factory progression? I keep ending up in this cycle of needing something, for something, which requires something else, etc

[storm garnet]

if you know the ideal end of the line output, you just need to check the recipe for those and then go back and check recipes for the ingredients each time

[shrewd knoll]

you are not lazy until you are too lazy to even package the thing and not transfer it

[scenic swift]

7 delivery a day going to cause burnout if they keep adding more

old locations should get an option to just be automated

[winged oriole]

they already have that though

you just transfer them and get the bills later

[serene geyser]

what's the website to see how to only consume 10 units per minute out of unloader?

[brittle jackal]

I need help making ferrum bottle farm

[cursive oasis]

How do you run 4 Cuprium unloaders without running dry?

[brittle jackal]

Anyone knows how to make ferrum bottle factory

[cursive oasis]

Ferrum Unloader => Refiner Unit => Moulding Unit.

[brittle jackal]

I need it for buck capsules B factor

I'm at 200/200

Need to increase it I guess

[cursive oasis]

Well, you either need to cut down some of the current stuff (can just switch it off, not tear down) or expand power capacity.

[brittle jackal]

Rn I'm doing buck flowers farm and buck capsules B farm

[cursive oasis]

If I recall it's one of the simpler setups. Planters are independent from any Unloaders so you can just throw them on the other side of the build area.

It's kinda unfortunate how fully irrelevant previous tiers of items are.

[cursive oasis]

Ooof.

[lean frost]

Wouldn’t you be using less space if you just refined 30/min and 25/min separately and then split the refined output evenly than that?

[south oasis]

😐

[lean frost]

Go make two more sandleaf farms lol

[brittle jackal]

I forgot how do I increase it?

[south oasis]

my sc wuling battery production was chopped coz of this

[versed ermine]

how so? you need the same amount of splitters and mergers even of you put it after the refiners
also, so far in wuling space is hardly a constraint, my maion area is only 80% built and i pretty much have all of the stockade area for weird contraptions like this that need not be compacted

[brittle jackal]

Idk what it is called

[versed ermine]

raise the prosperity for the facilities cap

or try to tidy up your factory, lol
i don't remember ever seeing anyone struggle with it

[cursive oasis]

My mistake, I routed one of the Powder lines to Protocol Storage, but Filling Unit needs both lines.

Generally try to not spaghetti all over the place. Try to match the width of unloaders unless you know what you're doing with rates and such.

[clever briar]

Is there a AIC Factory in Qingbo or should I pull power from Sky King Flats

[lean frost]

Messy, fucked up version since I only have my phone and dont have endfield downloaded.

This takes two less rows of space, no?

I guess one less row of space since the initial splitter needs room

[cursive oasis]

No Sub-Pac in Quingbo. Gotta drag the power from wlsewhere.

[clever briar]

Ty

[cursive oasis]

On the bright side there's barely anything in Quingbo that needs power so you have surprisingly much freedom to do whatever.

[lean frost]

Not that it really matters, like you said, we have a lot of extra space in wuling

[cursive oasis]

I already ran out of space in both Wuling areas.

[lean frost]

What are you making?

[brittle jackal]

What's m

[cursive oasis]

All the current Tier 2 stuff. Batteries, Tea, Syringe and Xircon.

[brittle jackal]

Moulding unit

[cursive oasis]

It's what makes bottles.

[lean frost]

I think right now I have a 1/4 purple battery, 2 wuling batteries, 4 cuprium refineries, 2 foods, 4 xiranites, sandleaves and jincao/yazhen shoved intk a corner, and my attempt to alleviate offline sewage clog

[brittle jackal]

I forgot how do I increase the Cap

[cursive oasis]

If you don't have it, you need to unlock it in the PAC menu.

[lean frost]

And I’m still not using like 60% of my main wuling area

[brittle jackal]

I already unlocked it

[cursive oasis]

You need to make Battery production and send batteries to Power Bank. Power Banks expand your available power.

[brittle jackal]

Can't make battery

[cursive oasis]

I'm pretty sure it's the way I make my stuff. It's extremely modular, but that also means stuff can get kinda long, which pushes other things away.

[lean frost]

Power generation increases cap. For now, you can just shove raw originium into power banks to get your battery production running

[cursive oasis]

You need to unlock it. If you don't have enough points for it, you need to progress the quest.

Or if you unlocked it, it should be possible to make them within currend 200 budget.

[lean frost]

Show this screen

[cursive oasis]

And yeah, you can burn Origium for emergency power increase.

[cursive oasis]

I just realized how people have enough Cuprium. Probably using Metatransfer bug.

[lean frost]

I’m pretty sure you’ve unlocked batteries already.

[brittle jackal]

Yes

[lean frost]

Place down a Packaging Unit and check its formulas. You should see a battery. Make it

[brittle jackal]

Was it thermal bank?

Can't place it

I've removed something and it hecam 195/200 and when I try to place packaging unit it becomes 215/200

[shell hinge]

That was fixed a while ago. What do you mean by "enough cuprium"?

[marble marsh]

Somehow my factory outproduces the outposts and I ain't gonna complain about it

[cursive oasis]

If I use 4 Cuprium Ore unloaders, it runs at a deficit.

[lean frost]

Thermal banks cost no power to run.

Place thermal banks down and load originium ore into it.

[shell hinge]

Sounds like a design issue, as even the offline belt bug wouldn't cause that

[lean frost]

That will increase your power cap. Then use that increased power cap to start your battery production.

Eventually, you can stop feeding your thermal banks originium ore and instead feed it batteries.

[marble marsh]

I use this and the numbers are just right

[hard phoenix]

i tried making a factory for bats and components, the bat yield graph is confusing me, does anyone have a recommendation for a factory that makes a bit of components and as many bats as possible

[shell hinge]

Make 10.5/min batteries, 0.75/min components

Can split the components however you wish

[lean frost]

Pretty.

[hard phoenix]

do you have a blueprint for that

[shell hinge]

Uh, not unless you want a copy of my base that I don't have made yet

Just send 3.75 belts of xiranite to xircon production

[lean frost]

Are you running at a deficit only when you go offline?

[shell hinge]

Then send 0.25 belts of xiranite to component production

[shell hinge]

Offline bug would not affect ore

[hard phoenix]

what's the offline bug

[shell hinge]

Belts run slightly slower offline

[lean frost]

Oh? I thought it was sewage

I heard that there’s still a sewage bug that makes it produce slightly more than it should while you’re offline. Depending on how your productions are set up, it’s possible your sewage is getting clogged and slowing down your cuprium refinery which would make you run at a deficit

I haven’t been keeping up though, so I don’t know if it’s true.

[marble marsh]

Didn't know that lol

[shell hinge]

That was a reactor bug that should be fixed and also would not make cuprium ore run at a deficit

[lean frost]

I didn’t know about this belt bug at all.

[shell hinge]

It's not meaningful enough to care about tbh

[hard phoenix]

im essentially doing this, sending the left output towards components and the bottom one towards a depot loader

[shell hinge]

Nor is there much to be done in practical builds

[lean frost]

Oh, I completely ignored them specifying ore. You’re right.

[shell hinge]

Should be fine then

[hard phoenix]

im still getting weird shit like that, doesn't look like 10.5

[lean frost]

Right, I only heard about the sewage bug after it was apparently fixed, but then saw others discussing it still being here a few days after

[shell hinge]

I will note that cuprium components are used much less than xiranite rn, so you probably don't need to run too many cuprium comps

The sewage bug was only ever a tiny issue anyway

Even a naive build only suffered a slight cuprium slowdown

Any robust build would see no impact beyond the unavoidable production reduction

[lean frost]

I kept logging back into an 11/min battery production lmao

[nova osprey]

constant?

[lean frost]

It goes back to 12/min if I stay online. I haven’t logged on in two days though.

[marble marsh]

I have this

3 usage cuz I couldn't care less about saving batteries lol

[nova osprey]

damn how much power are you using?

[marble marsh]

Im using 2 thermal banks lol

[nova osprey]

i know but how much power is your entire factory and etc using @.@

[brittle jackal]

This much ok?

[lean frost]

If you mean whether the offline graph was fluctuating or stayed at a constant line, I’m pretty sure it was fluctuating. I can check later and ping you if you want.

[nova osprey]

there's a bug with the reactor crucibles i think? was that patched?

[marble marsh]

Take a look for yourself (also have my parts production for my Zipline network I'm gonna build)

[brittle jackal]

For making ferrum bottle farm

[lean frost]

Apparently. I know of a sewage related bug that was in the patch notes a week or two ago, I’m unsure if the reactor fix was patched in while I was away from the game (ie, past 3 days)

[nova osprey]

damn, i mean if you could reduce your energy by 70 then you could use 1.5/min

[lean frost]

You need to get your batteries sorted out first to be honest

[marble marsh]

With the Zipline network I'ma build it's fine for me

[nova osprey]

put however much you need

[lean frost]

Make batteries first, they’re a lot more efficient at making power.

Then you can do ferrium bottles

[marble marsh]

It became about time I finally made one got a little tired of running to spots all the time

[nova osprey]

oh wait lol

[lean frost]

But yeah, that’s probably enough. You can ignore batteries completely and just do your bottle farming

[nova osprey]

damn that's a lot of thermal banks

just originium huh

[marble marsh]

I'm only using 2 thermals lol

[cursive oasis]

Actually I went in and took another hard look at it and realized I likely misread one of the stats early on and based my rations at that mistake. I opened gates fully and it goes at steady 120/120.

[lean frost]

Nice

[cursive oasis]

New Chemical Mixers can't come soon enough. I'll turn 3 buildings into 1, cutting length.

[severe nexus]

Chemical mixers?

[cursive oasis]

Tier 2 Crucibles

[severe nexus]

Ah I see

[cursive oasis]

At least from screenshots they're supposed to hold 8 liquids. 4 in, 4 out.

[severe nexus]

Oh that would be very helpful

[fathom glade]

this thing suddenly stopped parallel production like 1h ago without me touching anything. Is yhis bugged??

after stashing and re-placement of the crucible:

i think i found a weird ass bug, but want to confirm

[shell hinge]

Just clogged no? You have no output

[cursive oasis]

I only use parallel processing for meds, so can't say.

[cursive oasis]

Nah, it removed Liquid Xiranite out of production entirely.

Both from inside crucible and from the output.

[fathom glade]

if it was just a clog it would be simple, but even current crucibles can parallel process.

[shell hinge]

It's the solution that has no output. Xiranite is still set to output

[fathom glade]

the fact it wasnt producing liquid xir was whack as hell

[fathom glade]

yazhen sol output was removed to isolate the problem during troubleshooting, it didnt work.

the liq xiranite output was still maintained.

(also clogs for one output shouldn't affect the other for crucibles)

[cursive oasis]

I know that game intended us to use parallel processing for meds since it was part of the simulation tutorial and there is no particular incentive to parallel process anything with liquid xiranite. I suppose it might be more buggy with "currently unintended" processings.

[fathom glade]

i do have my xiranite running 2/3 clocking (i.e. 20/min xiranite inlet for 20/min xir liq. outlet) there, and it's the buggiest stream i have.

i keep having weird problems with it on server fluctuation

[brittle jackal]

Do I need fitting and shredding unit as well for the ferrrum bottle farm

[fathom glade]

inclined to conclude it was a bug - is it worth reporting or is it part of server side issues that are widely known atm? if so I'll withhold reporting

[thick otter]

Can anyone explain to me the concept of battery minmax?

[cursive oasis]

Shredding unit for Buckflower. Fitting units is not required for bottles.

You can use the image I sent above for what you need.

Waaaay above.

[brittle jackal]

Why i need buck flowers

Powders?

[cursive oasis]

Aren't you making Buck Capsules?

[brittle jackal]

Yes but

I'm doing it seperate

[cursive oasis]

Buck Capsule requires you to Shred Buckflowers into Powder.

[brittle jackal]

Bug capsul farm in hub base

[cursive oasis]

You don't need to do it separately. It is a tiny production.

All you need.

[nova osprey]

pulse width modulation?

[brittle jackal]

What should I need for only ferrum bottle farm

[cursive oasis]

For only Ferrum bottles you need Refiner and Moulding Unit.

This bit.

[nova osprey]

wasting 5 energy smh

[brittle jackal]

I got confused when you said buck powder

[ruby sorrel]

moulding units are 10

[brittle jackal]

Should I really do the buck power farm ?

[cursive oasis]

Yeah, I forgot that both powders go to Filling unit. Plus I only made it as example, I already tore it down.

[summer venture]

from what this person told me do I add a belt from the planting unit into the seeding unit? And do I add the wuling flower into the planting unit for there to be a loop for the carbon?

[nova osprey]

nvm wasting 10 energy aye

[nova osprey]

remove bottom right belt

then set output of bottom belt to shredder

[summer venture]

the one on the top planting unit?

[nova osprey]

yes

[ruby sorrel]

maybe do the tutorial

[nova osprey]

yes

[summer venture]

ah

[summer venture]

those tutorials are confusing af

[brittle jackal]

I've put 4

[cursive oasis]

Planter setups are self-sufficient and you need to get Buckflower somewhere for constant production. Otherwise you gonna have to run around the map daily gathering it manually.

[brittle jackal]

2 for bottles 2 for powders

[nova osprey]

this is for wuling plants

[summer venture]

which ones the bottom belt?

[nova osprey]

sorry bottom planter to shredder*

[brittle jackal]

I do have 50 buck

Which I got from seeding

And planting unit

[severe nexus]

Can get rid of 1 moulding unit I think

[cursive oasis]

Why wouldn't I need 2 Moulding units when ratio is 10-10 for Capsule so 2 bottles - 2 powders?

[summer venture]

I put sandleaf into the seeding unit

[nova osprey]

for yours, yours works fine with the adjustments i told you about

[brittle jackal]

Total 296 buck flowers

Do I need more than 200?

[nova osprey]

moulding unit is 2 input to 1 output, you need 4 belts of ferrium for optimal buck b

[severe nexus]

Each moulding needs throughput from 2 refiners

[nova osprey]

I did say Bottom

[ruby sorrel]

what is that loop supposed to be, there's 3 buildings but water's on

[nova osprey]

the one i sent?

[ruby sorrel]

no croz's

[summer venture]

O I was looking at the first planting unit as the top

[cursive oasis]

Arh, right, so it is actually 4 refineries into 2 moulding units.

[thick otter]

Like this kind of thing

[nova osprey]

yes pulse width modulation

[summer venture]

someone in help chat said I need to make a carbon loop after sandleaf loop so I can make wuling batteries

[nova osprey]

the basis is to create an average power with the basis that thermal banks run at 1.5 min consumptio

[brittle jackal]

Question why does the belt from fitting unit goes to shredding unit

[nova osprey]

there you go

[brittle jackal]

I was like oh that's how I made ferrum bottle farm and when I saw sitting and shredding unit I was like was this part of the farm to

[cursive oasis]

Huh? Shredding unit is directly connected to Unloader. There is no Fitting unit anywhere.

[ruby sorrel]

I still don't get what this is, there's a wet planter and a dry planter doing what???

[jade hare]

ik this is the wrong channel but what operators should I use to inflict solidification?

[brittle jackal]

The pic you showed

[summer venture]

wdym wet planter I dont think im running water there

[brittle jackal]

Look at the belt form moulding unit which goes to fitting

[ruby sorrel]

then turn water off

[summer venture]

forgot to turn that one off 🗿

then again

the person did say put a wuling plant in and turn on water

[brittle jackal]

I don't understand 😭

[nova osprey]

wuling plant factory

[ruby sorrel]

well you should look at the wuling plant formulas

[summer venture]

im tryna make wuling batteries

[ruby sorrel]

yeah, so you start with the plants

[nova osprey]

we know, you already told us

you need to make xiranite first

to make xiranite you need to figure out how grinders and carbon work

to understand how grinders work you need to understand basic non water plant factory

to understand carbon you need to understand the best ways to get carbon, which is with wuling water plants

if you're looking to figure out how to do it yourself, i recommend taking a look at the database, finding the item you want to make, check the chain, then go for a small step first

if you're just looking to get it done, blueprints do exist out there

[tepid wigeon]

In game tutorial sims are good teachers if you wanna figure it out without copying bps

[nova osprey]

they find them too complicated

[lean frost]

All right, first. What are you ultimately trying to make. Buck capsules?

[summer venture]

I was following this formula and then I asked someone in another server to proofcheck if I even set it up right. Then they told me to remove the refining unit in the first set up

[brittle jackal]

Yes

Should I remove the seeding and planting unit?

[nova osprey]

why did you modify the perfectly good factory

[ruby sorrel]

well yeah, that setup is nonsensical, you have water on planters and they're leading to shredder and a refiner

also using non-wuling for carbon is a waste of power and buildings

[nova osprey]

75 energy loss..

[brittle jackal]

I need some space to make the bottle and buck farm

[nova osprey]

per skyforge, for a loss of 300 energy

[brittle jackal]

The 2 planting unit and 1 seeding units takes alot of energy to build

[nova osprey]

make a battery farm first, not a medicine farm

[summer venture]

then people in help chat told me to change the belts for the planting units and I changed it to this, then added the belt from bottom planting unit to the shredding

[lean frost]

That's why we make batteries. If you only care about buck capsules though and aren't making anything else, you can just bruteforce it with enough originium 🤷‍♂️

[brittle jackal]

How do I make it

[ruby sorrel]

first, look at wuling plant formulas and make a wuling plant loop

[nova osprey]

if you want to figure it out yourself, check the in game database and do it step by step

[brittle jackal]

Well I've plenty of ori

[lean frost]

Right. So I guess I should ask, do you want to make batteries or other productions in the future?

[summer venture]

that was my intial set up

[brittle jackal]

I thought connect form pac to bank helps but it doesn't count

[nova osprey]

i see o.o

[brittle jackal]

Battery's

[ruby sorrel]

you're still stuck on the bottom left here, batteries gonna be forever away at this rate

[nova osprey]

it's just a waste considering you can get much more power from batteries

[summer venture]

did try using a yter's bp but I literally have no power cause connecting to originium mining spots around wuling seemed to have used up all of it

[lean frost]

All right, so let's start with the basics. To make stuff you want, check the formula. Place down a packaging unit, click on it, then click this button.

[ruby sorrel]

if you have no power either bring some batteries from valley, or just burn the originium until you have wuling battery line done

[brittle jackal]

Should I put infront of loaders?

[summer venture]

wdym burn originium

[nova osprey]

do you not have a valley 4 factory?

[brittle jackal]

So I can make bunch

[lean frost]

No, we're just figuring out what you need right now. Don't worry about it. You can move things around as we go.

[summer venture]

I do

[ruby sorrel]

did you srsly not do any of the tutorials, put orig in thermal bank

[subtle finch]

what site or program is that?

[brittle jackal]

Ok

[nova osprey]

and you have batteries from there

[lean frost]

@brittle jackal In the formula page, you can see this right?

[ruby sorrel]

https://jambochen.github.io/endfield-calc

[lean frost]

SC valley batteries are available for you?

I ask because I don't know, I forget the tech tree progression

[nova osprey]

if they have ferrium it should be available

[lean frost]

The alternative to us guiding you through how to figure out how to make stuff is straight up just giving you the blueprints. We can do that instead, if you want.

[nova osprey]

you can make the youtuber's setup then bring some batteries from valley 4 to power it up

[summer venture]

wouldnt I need to make a thermal bank set up?

[ruby sorrel]

well how are you going to get power without thermal banks

[lean frost]

There's really no 'set up', you just place down a thermal bank and that's it.

[atomic fiber]

it fixed on mine. my xiranite doesn't decreasing anymore from tax

[lean frost]

A full backpack of purple batteries can last you for 19 hours

[fluid fog]

the only source of power is to use thermal bank, nothing else unless.... they add new one in the future

[atomic fiber]

water based battery

[brittle jackal]

I've checked

[summer venture]

which one are purple batteries

[tawny bear]

always bet on geothermal bank

[summer venture]

I've only made green and blue

[nova osprey]

i mean a full backpack of any battery can last you 19 hours

[lean frost]

So on that formula screen, you can click on the ingredients. That will then tell you how to make those ingredients and the facility required to do so. SC valley batteries require originium powder, and originium powder is made by putting originium ore into shredding units.

[nova osprey]

if powering a single thermal bank

[fluid fog]

I wonder in Arknights universe where they use different power source other than origium itself.

[tawny bear]

discord user djinu there's like a billion water wheels in qingbo stockade,,,,,

[nova osprey]

HC batteries?

[lean frost]

@brittle jackal Then you just need to repeat that for the other ingredients. Ferrium Part requires you to put those cubes into fitting units. What are those cubes and how do you make them? To figure that out, you just need to do the same thing you did for the batteries.

[fluid fog]

but it uses xiranite to use or it's technically part of origium where xiranite to exist is to incorporate with origium.

[lean frost]

@brittle jackal Place down a fitting unit, go to its formula page, then click the cube. You can see that the cubes are made by putting ferrium ore into refining units.

[summer venture]

never made any

[upper fiber]

that dip is a stain in my report

[viscid plover]

Account bricked time to reroll

[lean frost]

When did they fix reactors?

[viscid plover]

2 days ago I think?

[tepid wigeon]

Yeah

[lapis crane]

taxed

[covert fox]

im curious, how many people here have played satisfactory?

[brittle jackal]

Question so if I connect pac to Bank does this help Increasing the power?

[sick basin]

Well, no

U increase power by feeding the bank batteries

Doesnt matter from where

[lean frost]

The only thing that increases a thermal bank's power generation is giving it better batteries.
A bank would work completely fine not connected to anything at all, and fed just by you giving it a stack of batteries every so often. You want to connect it to your PAC or an unloader so the bank is always fed batteries or originium

You can check how much power a material generates by looking at the thermal bank's formula page.

[brittle jackal]

This battery factor ok?

[nova osprey]

no

[lean frost]

Check the formula page again. SC valley batteries require Ferrium Parts and Originium Powder.
Originium Powder is made by inputting originium ore into shredding units and connecting that directly to the packaging unit.
Ferrium Parts is made by inputting ferrium ore into refining units, then inputting the result into fitting units, then into the packaging unit.

[nova osprey]

why are you shredding ferrium

[lean frost]

Just check the formula page.

Literally just backtrack and place down the facilities as you go

[lean frost]

It says you need originium powder. Originium powder needs shredding unit. Put down shredding unit. Unload originium ore into shredding unit. There, that's done.

[viscid plover]

[lean frost]

Ferrium part needs fitting unit. Put down fitting unit.
Fitting unit needs ferrium. Ferrium needs refining unit. Put down refining unit. Unload ferrium ore into refining unit.

[viscid plover]

Naru the hodo (doesn't hodo at all)

[solemn mural]

Quick question, whats the max Furrium per min mined from Wuling?

[lean frost]

Literally just do what the menu says.

[viscid plover]

90

[solemn mural]

thanks

[nova osprey]

[summer venture]

do I put in the wuling flower into the bottom connected planting unit and then connect to the grinding unit?

[nova osprey]

sigh

at this point just copy someone else's blueprint

[ruby sorrel]

idk maybe just do it and find out

[viscid plover]

Refine first

[ruby sorrel]

this is the same picture you had like 40min ago

[ruby sorrel]

order doesn't matter

[nova osprey]

technically one does use 5 less power

[brittle jackal]

I fixed it

I hope it's fine

[nova osprey]

nice, good job

[ruby sorrel]

no aren't they all 5 power buildings? and you need 3 total either way

[upper fiber]

you forgot to let it out

[nova osprey]

oh wait you're right

[brittle jackal]

Why should I let it out

[lusty violet]

not good to hold it in

[nova osprey]

as in auto dump output back into depot

[upper fiber]

from packaging unit

[nova osprey]

it doesn't generate power by staying in the packaging unit

it needs thermal banks

[lean frost]

Only thermal banks generate power. Batteries don't do anything while inside the packaging unit.

Feed the packaging unit into the PAC, then unload the batteries into a thermal bank.

[lean frost]

Also, to make sure that the packaging unit is always producing batteries, give it 1 more ferrium part and 2 more originium powder.

So you want to be giving the packaging unit a total of 2 ferrium part inputs and 3 originium powder inputs

[lofty comet]

First time making a somewhat good Battery farm in wuling howd i do🥹

[nova osprey]

not bad but needs more 1 originium for lc bat

[tropic plover]

Chat, can a merger allow three different inputs in a single output grid or that wouldn't work? AIC as endpoint

[lofty comet]

so another gridning unit?

[nova osprey]

yes

[atomic fiber]

good job 👍

[lofty comet]

What about like size optimization

I feel like I can make it smaller but idk how without messing everything up

[brittle jackal]

This looks good?

[tropic plover]

Anyone?

[nova osprey]

size optimization, just got to play around with different angles and rotations of facilities

it's pretty much trial and error

[lofty comet]

Got it

[nova osprey]

doesn't work

[lofty comet]

It would work I think

[lean frost]

Like this?

[lofty comet]

But like the amoutn you get per second is slower cause of that

I think

[nova osprey]

technically you can but you're running a lot slower yes

1/3rd efficiency

[tropic plover]

Yes, like three different inputs and one single output grid straight to AIC for storage?

[lean frost]

It depends on how much those belts are feeding into the merger.

No matter what, belts can only handle 30/min flow. If each belt is outputting 30/min each, then that merger is going to get clogged.

[upper fiber]

do you have thermal bank unlocked yet?

[tropic plover]

I see, to be tested depending on the speed of production, so for some are slow and some are fast, so it'll a trial and error

[lean frost]

You can just math it out 🤷‍♂️

What are the 3 inputs you're thinking about?

[nova osprey]

only final products (medicines/batteries/components) can be merged without losing efficiency

if you can merge other machines you're doing something wrong elsewhere

[ruby sorrel]

you don't want to mergethings where any of them might cap in depot either

[tropic plover]

Buck capsule b, this one is slow, ferrium bottle is fast along with buckflowers

[lean frost]

Is the ferrium bottle getting an input of 2 ferriums?

[brittle jackal]

Yes

[tropic plover]

They circle around other places

[upper fiber]

then change one of the protocol stash to thermal bank

[nova osprey]

advice still stands

circle can clog then nothing can go through

[viscid plover]

Yes if all 3 products are the 10s tier like hcv battery or buck A meds

[lean frost]

It's too much, either way. It can handle buck capsule B plus a ferrium bottle that's only being fed 1 ferrium, but your buckflowers are probably too fast.

[ruby sorrel]

what does circling have to do with anything

if it caps it's stuck

[tropic plover]

I see, will try to expand and improve my stash then, I'm short on space so that I need to focus on after getting some funds

[lean frost]

1 ferrium into a moulding unit gives 15/min bottles. Capsule B is 6/min max

2 ferrium into moulding unit is 30/min bottles, so it just depends on your set up

[tropic plover]

Circle around as in other factories

[ruby sorrel]

?? if you merge 2 different items and one of them caps then both are stuck

the path doesn't matter

unless you're implying you're fine with using belts as storage

[hidden temple]

looks like they're using a v4 plant for carbon, so for 2 carbon dust it's 1 shredder into 2 refiners vs 1 refiner into 1 shredder

wuling plant is the one that uses 3 facilities regardless of order

[nova osprey]

yeah i was mixing things up there

[tropic plover]

I see, it's why I asked because I never tried, thanks a bunch, I'll focus on getting more space and funds

[nova osprey]

oh your problem is factory space via the steward?

[hidden temple]

yeah your point was right
since they were doing v4 plants refining first does save 3 power
(they should just use wuling plant instead tho lol)

[viscid plover]

There's plenty of space in dijang

[tropic plover]

Yeah, both regions level 3 wuling and 5 in the valley

[ruby sorrel]

nah they aren't using anything cus one of those planters has water on, and they're supposedly trying to make wuling plant loop to make carbon with

[lean frost]

Do you use protocol stashes to load materials?

[tropic plover]

I don't know how to use it yet and regional transfer is still far from being unlocked

[hidden temple]

oh so the problem started with the plant loop

[iron stratus]

i feel the urge to remake my factory again should i do it

[lean frost]

No need for regional transfers. Protocal Stashes are basically just larger depot loaders.

[brittle jackal]

Done

[ruby sorrel]

that and the complete lack of power cus idk "do I need thermal banks"

[viscid plover]

Damn the pun didn't land, flew right over

[lean frost]

Just use htem as your loaders. No need to force your belts to feed into the AIC

[ruby sorrel]

idk why the factory has made no progress in 30+ min

[lean frost]

They have two more inputs than actual depot unloaders and can be placed anywhere, at the cost of being bigger and needing a negligible amount of power.

[ruby sorrel]

if you focus on getting to the end products that output 6/min you have plenty of slots on the aic core anyways

[tropic plover]

I'll try to incorporate them in the current factories, I'll need afterwards to set a blueprint for gears resources

[tropic plover]

That efficient? I underestimated them

[nova osprey]

||I mean this without offense but pretty sure it's illiteracy, which is the inability to comprehend what other people are telling them||

hence why i said it's better for them to copy a blueprint @.@

[lean frost]

yeah lol. they just need 5 power and loads anything they store into the depot every 8 seconds

Even with max flow rate, you're not gonna fill this up so long as it's always powered

[tropic plover]

Took them for granted, I'll definitely use them next login

[viscid plover]

.cantread

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[nova osprey]

genuinely lmao

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

[viscid plover]

Oh miko arise

[nova osprey]

they thought the tutorials were complicated

[lean frost]

who did

[viscid plover]

I did

Jk

[nova osprey]

[lean frost]

oh i see the message lol

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

only 0.25/s goes to the treatment

[leaden drift]

Has tax been avoided yet?

[jolly shore]

why am I wasting my time doing shit like this when I could just buy satisfactory

[ruby sorrel]

yeah why are you like this

[leaden drift]

Not enough

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-kdot-superbowl-super-bowl-superbowl-eagles-gif-6365702152647880921

[upper fiber]

you might want to optimize the input for packaging unit next, since it need 1 more ferrium line and 2 more originium lines

[safe cloak]

Thank you for the idea

[upper fiber]

we need more whaler like you to have good enough server without sync issue

[nova osprey]

i see you're missing xircon effluent

[jolly shore]

I will do that once I finish making maxing jincao C and A, since current stocks don't accept jincao A

[nova osprey]

aye

[jolly shore]

it'll be another 4 days since I'm copium limited

[nova osprey]

i hope next region gives us gasses so we can huff copium

[jolly shore]

farts in jars update

[nova osprey]

[jolly shore]

I'm pretty confident next region is gasses

since the pipes already allude to it

[nova osprey]

i think so too

[upper fiber]

still liquid

[nova osprey]

also makes sense

[upper fiber]

red liquid

[nova osprey]

next region not wuling 1.2

[upper fiber]

oh when is that

[nova osprey]

idk

whenever wuling is done

we're just speculating

wuling is water

so like, thinking that next region will introduce gasses or smth similar

[jolly shore]

China chapters always need the most time or the CN playerbase will riot so we're in this region for a while

[upper fiber]

how to contain gas, pipes also?

[nova osprey]

probably, if it's like factorio

[viscid plover]

Who are you? Hoaderer?

[jolly shore]

The pipes say "fluid or gasses"

[nova osprey]

ah yeah i forgot about that too

[jolly shore]

it doesn't mean we can store the gasses in bottles but it does mean we can transfer them

we may get canisters instead

nothing is set in stone but I see no reason they'd change it

sadly they will not let us pollute the air, likely

[viscid plover]

Prepare for when we climb mount kjera

Need that oxygen tank

[jolly shore]

never forget

[nova osprey]

what do you mean i can't give my wulingers lung cancer

[upper fiber]

what is air polution when the blight is more than enough

[lean frost]

It's okay, you can just bottle the sewage directly and spray it into your wulinger's face

[viscid plover]

Why not both

[jolly shore]

we can defeat the blight with pollution

[viscid plover]

Light pollution after

[lean frost]

Blight can't destroy the world if we destroy it first

[viscid plover]

[jolly shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m__J1Jw6TxA

[hoary crag]

when the absolute proof of a growing factory is the growing amount of sewage being sent to the river and the game doesn't let us do that

[summer venture]

first of all idk where to connect the other belt ends for this bp at, my only guess was through the aic outputs? Plus I already spent all that time earlier trying to get all those other machines set up so I might as well try doing smth with it instead of always relying on someone's giant bp set ups where the belt connections part confuses me..

whats the point of this channel if the answer is just gonna be "figure it out or use a bp" when someone's coming here asking to help understand how to make a specific build? the other person mentioned to look at plant loops but it doesn't show anything about wuling plants on the wuling battery formula? its literally just the sandleaf

I added a wuling flower into the planting unit and tweaked the set up a bit

[nova osprey]

this is the third time i am sending you this image

this is a wuling plant farm

[viscid plover]

You know what they say 3rd time the charm

[nova osprey]

[real crescent]

maybe they like seeing clogged machines?

[summer venture]

so what do I do with the sandleaf I added

[hidden temple]

plant shreds into 2 dust
and each dust refines into 2 carbon

so output 2 belts into 2 facilities per process

you end up w/ 4 carbon dust

[ruby sorrel]

idk m8 you gotta power the machine to see where you messed it up at least

cus you're not understanding anything ppl are telling you

like we're trying to get you to understand WHY your plant loop is wrong

[nova osprey]

or as i've said before just copy someone else's blueprint

[ruby sorrel]

we can't move on and "make the rest of the LC battery" if you don't even figure out the plant loop

[nova osprey]

good now figure out what's going on

[lusty violet]

do we know what their v4 base is like?

[ruby sorrel]

alright, so that's a sandleaf, not a wuling plant, you want wuling plants to make carbon

[nova osprey]

only made sc battery, but apparently copied from a youtuber

[viscid plover]

So for wuling plant (plant that uses water) you have to read their formula as they are different from valley 4 plant
1 seed into 2 plant instead of 1 seed into 1 plant
And their use of seeding unit and plant output means they use fewer planter

[nova osprey]

it's not even working, both planters are set to water

[viscid plover]

Mostly just addition and multiplication

[pulsar cypress]

*sometimes copying other peps blueprint let u understand the process faster..

Coz its already working efficiently..
By seeing it u can learn what each facility do/produce and how it works..

From that, u can choose to keep using it or built your own design..

At least, thats what me do at the beginning..
So using blueprint isn't always be bad thing..

[lusty violet]

i think they need to learn v4 first

like if they're doing this

[ruby sorrel]

but that's what the tutorial gives you

[lusty violet]

tells me they need to do tutorials

[ruby sorrel]

don't shame the tutorial

[real crescent]

no

its how they connect it

output of the packaging unit goes into the AIC output and not the input

[hoary crag]

ooh what do we have here

[lusty violet]

it doesn't matter

[hoary crag]

isn't this the wrong way?

[lusty violet]

yes, exactly

[summer venture]

I never said I copied sc batteries from yter bps. I was saying I added a wuling battery bp from a yter

[lusty violet]

like the concept of input > output isnt there

[hoary crag]

hmm

so what do the person in question need help on?

[viscid plover]

Tutorial are well made tbh

[pulsar cypress]

Understanding how factory works from totally 0..

[lusty violet]

everything

[nova osprey]

figure out valley 4 side first before doing wuling, it's a lot less complicated

[hoary crag]

oh my

[viscid plover]

I understood everything and did it after already built everything but can still appreciate how well they made it

[hoary crag]

can I ask what you want to make in the first place?

[nova osprey]

lc wuling i believe

[hoary crag]

cuz tbh the one thing that lets you understand the production line for a certain item easily is by looking at the final product's production chain

[leaden drift]

so far so stable

[hoary crag]

once you have that laid out, then it's all about adjusting for full efficiency

[summer venture]

Main AIC and valley pass factory for valley 4

Although I had help for most of it

[hoary crag]

the empty space slicing thru the middle looks so good

[leaden drift]

going for that yin and yang feel

[hoary crag]

nice

[viscid plover]

So many water pump must be for aesthetics

[leaden drift]

future pumps

[ruby sorrel]

can you share that zip I need that zip omg

[hoary crag]

if you could pull off an actual ying yang layout I would be really impressed

[leaden drift]

i mean from what i have right now its basically there

[young stag]

2nd pic has half the factory clogged

[leaden drift]

if on NA EU search yushwa

[young stag]

1 planting bp can only output 1 plant per bp

not 2

[young stag]

and whatever happening with the amethyst comp line idk

[nova osprey]

im so sad they removed most ways to get out of bounds

[leaden drift]

same

[viscid plover]

I'm still waiting for one to appear on my map

[ruby sorrel]

I hope if they ever block off these things they remove all your oob facilities

[nova osprey]

you can get someone to share it with you, if you see someone with out of bounds ziplines

[hoary crag]

yup so much that the only reliable way left to get these is to find someone who has one from 1.0

[nova osprey]

wish they kept these bugs

harmless

[young stag]

this looks like a mess icl

[nova osprey]

for the most part

[leaden drift]

i have 2 dead zips

[hoary crag]

I think it's because some people managed to get to future areas

[viscid plover]

I'm in Asia idk who in here that has it that's from Asia server

[leaden drift]

because of new invisible walls

[nova osprey]

probably yeah lol

i saw some clips xD

[nova osprey]

this is another reason to remove out of bound clipping, but like still

[hoary crag]

mine so far

[leaden drift]

I was attempting to go from Valley pass to power plateu

without going through the hub

[viscid plover]

Few offered to share with me but they are from NA so no dice

[leaden drift]

NA friendly

[ruby sorrel]

lol I'm gonna have to upkeep shared zips daily instead

[nova osprey]

wuling aic enjoyer

[viscid plover]

[leaden drift]

so my system uses 4 treatment plants

not too bad

so far no clog

[ruby sorrel]

omg this is amazing thanks so much

[solid python]

Double Xircon at the Outpost.

[leaden drift]

my sewage system

it breaks down an input of 75

and recycles it

always ensuring that atleast enough sewage is put through to make 6 batteries a minute

but if i

drop it to 5

it can handle lower amounts as well

[summer venture]

where do I even go to see the formula for the plants yall keep mentioning

[leaden drift]

on the facility

[solid python]

In the tutorial

It's hidden until you make it

[summer venture]

isnt that just blue prints rather than the formulas

[solid python]

No

[young stag]

read the text cro

also what do you do with pipe spaghetti

should i use conduits

[ruby sorrel]

that's beautiful

[real crescent]

would most certainly fix the spaghetti to use conduits

[ruby sorrel]

well if you have the facility count to spare go ahead, but conduits need to be reconnected every time you move them

[young stag]

fair

[ruby sorrel]

personally I wouldn't bother unless you need to get rid of the pipes

[hoary crag]

if you want visible pipes, then try to minimize the turns before they reach their intended facility, use convergers and splitters at your own discretion (1 pump = 2 facilities, 1 pipe = 2 pumps)

you can also use conduits if you want, but you'd have to reset the connection each time you move the conduit

[ruby sorrel]

I suppose conduit pairs also double as 2 fluid tanks worth of storage

[pulsar cypress]

Kinda wondering, water is normal..
But the green liquid also traveling far..

Usually peps keep the facilities kinda close so the production pipes not long like that..
(With water as exception)

[hoary crag]

I recently cleaned up my sc battery line to use as less pipe/belt logistics as possible.

wondering if there's more I could shave off

got rid of 5 belt logistics and one pipe logistic so far

[wispy grove]

lemme see inside this

[hoary crag]

exact same as the one next to it

[hidden temple]

if you don't merge the effluents you can use both pipe inputs, just gotta nudge the Xircon crucible to the right which you have space for

[ruby sorrel]

can't you save those 3 bridges over the orig if you move the xircon crucible 1 right

wait no the squiggles take too much room anyway

[lilac phoenix]

anyone got a blueprint for buck capsule a?

[solid python]

Still have to bridge

[ruby sorrel]

I think it'd still save 1 bridge

but eh

[hoary crag]

I could but it'd come at the cost of aesthetics

[solid python]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465080446156144885