#aic-factory

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vale swift
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you guys use the newer Wuling Battery? debating on upgrading to it but I got no more room

ruby sorrel
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just move stuff around until you do

vale swift
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think they'll make it an outpost item?

ruby sorrel
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it's lv3

vale swift
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I turned the stockade into a literal "Plantation" to deal with excessive need of Carbon and Sandleaf, heck Buckleef that wasn't native to Wuling has been brought over and introduced to the local floral, results have been "questionable"

solid python
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I don't use the SC battery. I sell it. PerliFumo

ruby sorrel
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no reason to use buckleaf in wuling though?

upper fiber
solid python
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Recipes hidden behind tutorials PerliFumo

vale swift
upper fiber
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it is good i don't need to do 9/min sc bat now because they fixed the bug

solid python
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Once you refine it, you'll see it PerliFumo

upper fiber
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you can add new production

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more like find out

vale swift
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wait are you for real???? I didn't have introduce a whole new plant to this place to get the carbon?! It's been like that this whole time?!?!

upper fiber
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i think so

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if you did the tutorial

solid python
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The extra kicker is that it produces 2x more carbon PerliWheeze

vale swift
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......I think I need a moment

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so now I gotta redo the whole plantation to deal with the fact I don't need Buckflowers anymore.....and gotta figure out how to move 38K of Buckflower

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is the whole inability to regional transfer from Wuling to Valley IV intentional or a bug?

ruby sorrel
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eh just leave it, not like it matters

paper magnet
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Think about when you get regional transfer in v4

ruby sorrel
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or you can delete from depot if you really hate seeing it

paper magnet
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Then think about what the current max regional level is in wuling

vale swift
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it's not that I hate looking at it, I mean it could be excess carbon but now that the native plants can become carbon, should probably put it to a better use

young igloo
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buck and citrome is useless by now

vale swift
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maybe I could make that Capsule[A] thing and just export it, I make it back in Valley IV as the trade item

wispy grove
vale swift
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so glad I finally got the power issue back home sorted so batteries no longer had to be sold off

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the sketchy irishman behind the trading outpost look was really concerning

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so are pipes becoming useless now that we got Conduits

ruby sorrel
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conduits is just convenience for the price of facility cap usage

vale swift
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does the cap apply in the area or just AIC? cause I thought about just using it for the AIC

ruby sorrel
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aic has its own cap

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so it depends if your conduit is in or out of the yellow box

solid python
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Unless you're running 50 ziplines and 10 defensive towers, you'll probably be fine. PerliFumo

vale swift
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I'm waiting on a friend to show me something but he claims you can basically do everything in the Wuling AIC and turn the Stocade AIC into a Water Treatment Plant with lots of bottles, water tanks and Xiranite made in the Wuling AIC

ruby sorrel
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sounds fun

solid python
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I make all my Xiranite in the Outpost. PerliFumo

ruby sorrel
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my outpost is empty

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maybe I should've just done all my xiranite+xircon there

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playing around the facility cap was meh

solid python
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Xircon might fit if you put some reactors outside the yellow border.

ruby sorrel
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just pipe the sewage down from wuling np

vale swift
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there's gotta be a way to make the Xircon more streamline, cause the BP I found online has you using three crucibles to make the rock, like dang there's no way to cut back on that???

solid python
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I only put 1 Xircon with 2 Cuprium in the Outpost. I still have some space, but haven't attempted it. PerliFumo

ruby sorrel
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but it's 5

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3 is 50%

vale swift
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afraid to even ask how the other two crucibles fit in there

ruby sorrel
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in any case it's not like there's a space shortage in main aic, the trouble is fitting everything within the 512 facility limit

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can't be too liberal with belt bridges

upper fiber
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if no space...

solid python
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Some Crucibles can be linked to each other. Some (with no belts) can be placed outside the yellow border.

ruby sorrel
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nah, my wuling cap is more important than aic cap

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I wouldn't be able to put the crucibles outside personally

solid python
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You can put it in the other area PerliFumo

ruby sorrel
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that's inconvenient

small creek
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if crucibles had 6 total input/output ports instead of 5, then making xircon (not effluent) and liquid xiranite in 1 crucible would be possible, but alas

upper fiber
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it is possible with 5 but not double process

small creek
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yea and if its not double process, its half efficiency

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so practically useless

wispy grove
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time to clear my originium grinders

small creek
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i wish your grinder a good clog

upper fiber
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grinder strike

upper fiber
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too lazy to remake factory, i'll just wait till 1.2

young igloo
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code pls

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just for reference

peak sinew
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crops maxing, less pipe as possible

bright merlin
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Alright got Buck A and SC batteries being made

wispy grove
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i always ran out of t creds

solemn mural
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My Xirinite/Cuprium setup, took several days build and to compact it as much as possible, uses up bout 1/3 of the entire Wuling AIC area

rate my setup ๐Ÿ˜„ (Image took 3 screenshots to compile)

peak sinew
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That rebuild crop saved me like 40 slots lmao

small creek
slim bear
upper fiber
solemn mural
slim bear
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other than that, looks neat

small creek
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that makes installation require additional instructions, when you couldve just done the work yourself for them

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for personal use, its not an issue though

ruby sorrel
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cus the outside takes up outside protocol cap ๐Ÿ’€

small creek
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but what im saying is this is not something i would share since its inconvenient to apply

ruby sorrel
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ppl should make plant loops that only require putting in 1 plant if it's all about convenience

solemn mural
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and what do you mean produce too much sandleaf? im using it for charcoal and if i did my math right, should be plenty to keep all 8 grinders fed

small creek
slim bear
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saves 1 planting unit worth of space per xiranite line

small creek
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using sandleaf for everything may be more convenient, but its not power or space efficient

ruby sorrel
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fine you can have 2 plant loops that's 2 plants

solemn mural
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hmm, i thought about using the Wulin plants, but the refinery didnt say it could be used for charcoal, only Buck, Citron and Sand

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so i stuck with sand since i had a massive stockpile from V4

peak sinew
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this kinda defeated the point

tiny topaz
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any tips on improving?

solemn mural
iron spoke
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I used all sandleaf when an account first hits wuling since you can't really maintain a full LC battery till skyking flats anyways and that way can put off researching hydro ponics till after getting skykingflats

small creek
valid fox
knotty blaze
small creek
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i make cuprium component and yazhA in the same place
when i wanna make more components, i increase xiranite input and the cuprium from yazhA automatically goes to comp (same if i want less)

tiny topaz
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yeah

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and its superior

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wuling plants are the best way to produce carbon

wispy grove
peak sinew
wispy grove
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except rare ones ofc

ruby sorrel
peak sinew
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PerliFumo i dont want to click watering

knotty blaze
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Yeah theoretically wuling plants produce the same with one less planter

tiny topaz
solemn mural
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Intresting, my through process was to have this portion of the factory procude the main good, cup and xirinite, then the rest of the facility, which isnt fully built yet, is for all the other facilities that use Xirinite/cup

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didnt know you could add some form of auto regulation

small creek
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im in the process of making a graph that perfectly encapsulates priosplit usage

upper fiber
small creek
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i only click one button for everything else to adjust

solemn mural
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oh dang'

ruby sorrel
tiny topaz
tiny topaz
peak sinew
tiny topaz
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now

hushed blaze
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Some powder can be refined into carbon powder though-

small creek
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ok heres the graph

upper fiber
slim bear
solid python
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Capped on Xiranite PerliDerp

small creek
# small creek ok heres the graph

notice that the ore and xiranite usage remains flat all the time
meanwhile the products change when i want
1st half: 4.5 yazA, 9 SCW, 3 comp/min
2nd half: 5.25 yazA, 10.5 SCW, 1.5 comp/min

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if the adjustment were manual then there should be dips because i was manually placing splitters and whatnot

wispy grove
hushed blaze
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Uh which gear that needs cuprium component again? I might haven't unlocked yet

solid python
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I would transfer some Xiranite to Valley IV just in case PerliFumo

upper fiber
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20 new gears?

peak sinew
wispy grove
upper fiber
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he is trying to place sprinkler on valle IV

tiny topaz
upper fiber
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did you see how much sandleaf produced from planting unit?

tiny topaz
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seed unit does 2 seeds per 1 plant

knotty blaze
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Wait I think sand leaf may be the best to produce xiranite

tiny topaz
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yeah 2

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one goes to shredding one goes back to seed picking

hushed blaze
upper fiber
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it is lost cause

tiny topaz
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and one plant shreds to 3

hushed blaze
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Seed picking, 1 plant 2 seeds

tiny topaz
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and then the wuling plant

ruby sorrel
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oh yeah that's only 1.5 belts of powder

slim bear
ruby sorrel
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unusable

slim bear
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isnt that not at max efficiency

tiny topaz
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its close enough for it, it requires zero input lol

ruby sorrel
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nah it's missing half a belt of powder

tiny topaz
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how am i supposed to half a belt and to where

slim bear
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the zero input is not the argument, its the max xiranite production/min that im asking :3

knotty blaze
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Hang on let be test the sand leafs

slim bear
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ur sandleaf circuit works for sure, but i just doubt that its running at max efficiency

ruby sorrel
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your sandleaf is at 50% so you only get 1.5/3 belts of powder when xiranite needs 2 belts

tiny topaz
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nope its full

ruby sorrel
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so it's a 75% xiranite output

tiny topaz
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it isnt running out at all lol

upper fiber
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okay

knotty blaze
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I donโ€™t think so lemme test

tiny topaz
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they're right it is not 100% efficient but it is feeding the seed picking unit at max

upper fiber
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oh it won't run out but half efficiency

tiny topaz
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hell the shredding unit gets backed up a lot so it will overflow into the seed picking unit more

wispy grove
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im using 2 belts on my sadnleaf shredder within my xiranite factory cause my storage already at 58kPerlithonk

tiny topaz
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really its a third-ish efficient

scenic swift
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people in valley 4 dont even have running water in their bathrooms cause the pump tech is banned there

ruby sorrel
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it's 75% when it clears up

tiny topaz
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im also using 2 belts but its still backing up because the wuling plants only do so much in this loop

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wuling plants make 2 carbon per plant instead of 1

knotty blaze
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Technically is should be Max efficiently cuz every one sandleaf output 3 powder, which is perfect for one carbon production of 30/min

tiny topaz
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so it makes the numbers a lil funny

hushed blaze
dark furnace
scenic swift
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they have to use the river yet they still dont know how to swim

tiny topaz
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wuling issue rn is mostly just ores

hushed blaze
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Meanwhile, we can't use jet spray in v4

dark furnace
scenic swift
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even if you got more ore it wont have much use without more forges for xiranite

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except for ferrium

tiny topaz
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yeah idk i gotta go check whats going on in that mining deposit

ruby sorrel
knotty blaze
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For some reason I have wuling level 8 and every originium ore on but stuck at 360/min for some reason and my duo battery production need 540/min

ruby sorrel
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go fix your mines

paper magnet
knotty blaze
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Think so

dark furnace
paper magnet
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Oh ya and fix your mines since levelling opens up some veins

tiny topaz
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somehow im getting LESS xiranite rn and idk why

ruby sorrel
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map shows ! on your faulty mines anyways

upper fiber
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bro you're capped

dark furnace
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your are only using 60 and your depot is capped, that's why

scenic swift
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full lol

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stop hoarding

dark furnace
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actual yield is always capped at your usage if it's capped in depot fyi

wispy grove
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more comps

tiny topaz
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oh i see it now lol

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i see what you mean

tiny topaz
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yeah i need to figure out where to dump it all in

ruby sorrel
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nah gotta always use it all to produce products and cap those instead

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what's the point in stockpiling ores and intermediates

tiny topaz
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i can always make more xircon

dark furnace
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cap red components PerliHodo

tiny topaz
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got pogran dupe.... i dont even want this guy

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ive kept him chained up in the manufacturing room in the ship lolol

vale swift
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Hellaguar is badazz

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your squad is four but if you got him in there, it's actually an eight-man group

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imagine fighting four people and then one guy calls for backup and four big people built like the business end of steel mill roll up and jump you on command

tiny topaz
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weapon gacha might actually be more brutal than the character gacha ngl

scenic swift
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how could this happen?

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124 yield but forges can only make 120? ? ?

tiny topaz
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doesnt help i pissed away my weapon selects before looking at the wiki.....

dark furnace
scenic swift
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time travel ๐Ÿค”

dark furnace
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it happens when you just logged in and it will go back down to normal after a while

scenic swift
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just move faster so you get 62 secs per minute 2/sec = 124/minute PeperlicaOK

solid python
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Everything seems okay. I can sleep easy. PerliFumo

upper fiber
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belt issue still there huh

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can't move back my forge then

scenic swift
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schrodengers components the graph is not sure if they exist yet

graceful otter
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finally, no more sewage guys, halleluiah

upper fiber
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spaghetti factory, saved 20power with 1 plant 1 seed for sandleaf on 1 unit

ruby sorrel
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do you really need to depot that powder line?

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actually if this is 4 xiranite that's only 3 sandleaf loops worth of powder no?

scenic swift
upper fiber
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i need 2 sand powder for sc bat

ruby sorrel
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oh you're splitting it with sc

upper fiber
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yeah, no waste on sc bat

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no more wasted stuff now

ruby sorrel
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that's actually a good idea, kinda lazy to change my factory around though

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hmm if I save that 20 power I could turn on my farm again if I burn my extra orig

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maybe I should do it anyways

solid python
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Let it burn Perlicka

young stag
solid python
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SC covers all my stocks, so I don't need to make lower tier meds PerliFumo

uneven aspen
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is this normal?

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still don't get why this is dipping ๐Ÿ˜”

young igloo
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classic pipe feature

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(not a bug)

solid python
atomic fiber
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don't forget about the belt offline bug

young igloo
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(not a bug)

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its a feature atp

uneven aspen
atomic fiber
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which effect your yield

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i say not more than 15% slower

young igloo
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cough cough

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the pipe

atomic fiber
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crucible also have it own bug

young igloo
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i dont see the belt having problem tho

uneven aspen
atomic fiber
atomic fiber
young igloo
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been there since launch idk

uneven aspen
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what's the bug?

wispy grove
uneven aspen
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taxes? its fixed

wispy grove
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yeah, then ur issue now is the belts i think

atomic fiber
atomic fiber
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that mean no bugs no the crucible now

uneven aspen
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yup

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i have this full of extra xircon

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none got touched

wispy grove
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Even v4 has dips

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Get used to it

young igloo
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maybe bc valley bill so suck i didnt notice

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...

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anyway

uneven aspen
wispy grove
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tell ur ocd to accept that ur aint getting staight lines anymorePerliFumo

upper fiber
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hope 1.2 i don't need to separate this anymore

vale swift
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so how do you do the five crucibles setup for the Xrcon cause I've been staring at the BP for it ingame and I'm not seeing it

young igloo
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this game toxicity come from the aic itself not the fandom lol

upper fiber
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2 for liquid xyra, 2 for xircon eff, 1 for xircon

young igloo
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2 xircon eff + 1 ferrium dust = 1 xircon

young igloo
upper fiber
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i have too much power anyway

young igloo
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understood

wispy grove
small creek
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Im finally done ChenCry

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im so late that all the other designs have already gotten popular

solid python
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I just made my own spaghetti PerliFumo

young igloo
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nah im back to my own spaghetti

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at least its symetrical

wispy grove
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i just posted yesterday

young igloo
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shout out to miko anyway

wispy grove
coral orchid
wispy grove
young igloo
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just used your spaghetti earlier

wispy grove
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which factory

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xiranite?

young igloo
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all of them

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i just want see if its power efficient

wispy grove
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how was itRossiCopium

small creek
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I saw it earlier and idt it was

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The xircon and meds were separate

young igloo
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100 power efficient was not worth it lmao

wispy grove
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because of the battery?

small creek
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yea

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u can make liquid xiranite and yazhen soln in one crucible

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yours uses 4 separate when u can just use 2

young igloo
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my spaghetti just use more stash

wispy grove
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oh about that

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i wanna make a blue print for each product

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so that if u have ur own sc factory

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then u can just use my yazhen bp

small creek
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kind of defeats the point of a megabase design no?

wispy grove
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its independent bps

small creek
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theyre meant to all be used tgt

small creek
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if u wanted to publish independent bps, shouldve just done that

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well, personally thats what i would do anw

wispy grove
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Perlithonk maybe ill just replace the word megabase then

small creek
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you can say theyre all modular but can go tgt in one place

young igloo
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like this

small creek
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but if you can just use some other design in other places, its not really a proper megabse

young igloo
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i already use 2 stash lmao

wispy grove
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i didnt know the word mega base have standards

young igloo
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but its a square

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well 21x20

small creek
young igloo
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not a square

small creek
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there is no established standard

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but if u think abt what the word megabase means, having to use other designs is weird

young igloo
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but 4 of them fit the left part of the base so its looks pretty

wispy grove
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i think whats good about my bp is that it can be personalized like a room

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my couch go here, others may put it there something like that

hoary crag
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lol

hoary crag
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let's gooo one of us

icy ivy
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How to make more efficient and compact

ruby sorrel
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less squiggly belts more smooshy buildings

hoary crag
icy ivy
hoary crag
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hmm ic

ruby sorrel
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it's hard to say what's "more efficient and compact" if you don't have some goal in mind, like forges need to be pointing a certain way, or it can't be wider than X tiles

hoary crag
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^^^

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for me I did think of making a triple forge setup for when they give us 6 forges

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but I have mine separated individually

icy ivy
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Well better experimenting ig

upper fiber
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wew i'm lacking sewage now

hoary crag
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you should be feeding jincao to refineries at 0.5/s

young igloo
ruby sorrel
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probs lack of water

hoary crag
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but your belts show only 0.25/s per jincao loop

ruby sorrel
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that needs 1.5 pumps

hoary crag
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yeah that makes sense

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if he only has one pump to feed all 3 then it'll be slow

hoary crag
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and thankfully that ever since they fixed crucible tax

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pipes can be much cleaner now

ruby sorrel
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but I've grown attached to my piping mess

hoary crag
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lol

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for me I made mine cleaner

young igloo
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maybe it look spaghetti but its my spaghetti ahh

ruby sorrel
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I don't want to change anything now unless it's to tear up 2/3 of it and rebuild

hoary crag
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I basically got rid of these tanks once and for all

ruby sorrel
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oh I never had tanks

hoary crag
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now it's one stright pipeline

ruby sorrel
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I just had a big row of splitters to have overflow into treatment

hoary crag
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I took this a day or two back, tho it was before the crucible fix so you could still see the fluid tanks

ruby sorrel
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it should work for any fraction of a crucible so I'm just not going to change it

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I did mine sorta like that, I should've swapped the orig and crucibles so I could lower the bus count

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and I used a bunch of conduits which meh, waste of facility count

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btw what do you use to put your screenshots together

fervent spoke
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fluid bus anyone XD?

upper fiber
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too many pipes

hoary crag
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as someone told me it's also what they used

hoary crag
fervent spoke
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only thing that would make it better would be to allow us to place logistic pipes on top of it

hoary crag
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ikr

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exactly why my left pipeline is beside the bus lane and not on it

pulsar cypress
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Noo.. Buss is the highway passage to go around..
PerliDerp

fervent spoke
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works but not clean :c

coral orchid
vale swift
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this is gonna sound so noobish so forgive me

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holy crap that worked, and we can use the inlet and the outlet thing for sewage?! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

coral orchid
young igloo
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sadly you cant just dump sewage for fellow wuling farmer to enjoy

icy ivy
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Lowkey hard squeezing this triple forge๐Ÿ’”

coral orchid
young igloo
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same

coral orchid
young igloo
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both wasted into nothing

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smh

unborn sinew
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i have a weird feeling we'll be using sewage in some sort of fertiliser recipe in 1.2

icy ivy
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How to compact factories bruh๐Ÿ™

coral orchid
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At least we can dump liquid xiranite as toxic waste

coral orchid
icy ivy
hidden temple
subtle finch
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like this PerliWheeze

coral orchid
vale swift
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Dear god that HAS to be an OSHA violation somewhere in there

coral orchid
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Sadly we have region limit too hard

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288 at Sub-AIC area
512 at Core-AIC area (Wuling City)

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and you will need to waste several land plots

ruby sorrel
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nice now I have a really shitty picture of my old base before I made it terrible... lining things up is a pain

ruby sorrel
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nah this is under

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my current base is around cap though

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too much bus/conduit usage to "tidy" things up

coral orchid
young igloo
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yazhen on the outpost

ruby sorrel
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neat

bright merlin
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Okay just curious about something.

Is there a large difference between the electrical drill and the mk2 version aside from mk2 being able to mine ferrium?

ruby sorrel
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mk2 uses more power

small creek
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mk2 uses more power

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i am a free thinker

bright merlin
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Pft

young igloo
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water miner use less power btw

small creek
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me omw to use 1 water pump for each mining rig

bright merlin
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I just gotten to wuling

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So don't have water miner yet

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But was curious if mk2 perhaps mines much more resources or well being faster

young igloo
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nah

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theres only 90/m ferrium here

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just use the og one

coral orchid
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You can use another 25/mins from Metastorage Regional Transfer

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115/mins is quite guaranteed

young igloo
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just talking about the rig

coral orchid
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5/mins can come from Dijiang Tech

young igloo
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tech

small creek
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my ass using 112/min lol

coral orchid
young igloo
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enough to squeeze in a yazhen c or so

small creek
wispy grove
lapis crane
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what u expected when surplus of ore keep adding up even with full usage

young igloo
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fug i love this fumo smug sm

unborn sinew
wispy grove
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oh those are duplicates

fluid fog
wispy grove
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do we even have moving clouds?

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if we do, ill just put shadows into lowest

ruby sorrel
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yeah there's always shadows drifting around

fluid fog
pulsar cypress
ruby sorrel
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they should give us a higher viewing platform

young igloo
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yeah

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a full aic shot is a must

fluid fog
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or just make a Map picture generator.

wispy grove
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maybe 1/2 size of the AIC

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so that its rectangular

pulsar cypress
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Just give us a special button to get to view of all factory directly..
-_-)

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So auto generated top view factory photo..

young igloo
pulsar cypress
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Especially for phone player like me.
Cant screenshot and merge like that.

wispy grove
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same

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i merge pics on my pc

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its pain doing that on mobile

young igloo
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classic paint lmao

bright merlin
#

Me not understanding half the words being said since I'm no where near the level for max out factories

young igloo
#

just play alright

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no need to rush

golden sapphire
#

cough

young igloo
#

if you wanna try it yourself do some simualtion first

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WHAT THE FUC

small creek
#

you need to rush factory every minute you spend without max factory is lost profits

golden sapphire
#

yes do the simulations

lapis crane
golden sapphire
#

familiarize yourself

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!!!

fluid fog
golden sapphire
lapis crane
golden sapphire
#

i can actually get to 4 million

young igloo
#

fuc i even skip entire tang tang quest just to rush the aic

golden sapphire
#

at some point as soon as tangtang let me run loose i just did my whole thing

golden sapphire
#

i believe no one in endfield has hit 4 million power yet

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because you have to be a fucking masochist to do it

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i had to delete literally everything in valley 4 for this

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i dont even have miners

bright merlin
# young igloo no need to rush

Ik but my brain likes fully automatic stuff so I can murder the entire LB population. Oh and explore every nook and cranny

lapis crane
golden sapphire
#

only possible with SC bats yes

lapis crane
golden sapphire
#

bold to assume i wont do the same thing

wispy grove
golden sapphire
#

1250 thermal banks

young igloo
#

fuc my gut hurt from laughing

golden sapphire
#

that should be enough for 4 million barely

pulsar cypress
#

R u the head of wuling energy conservation dept.?

coral orchid
golden sapphire
small creek
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bro

golden sapphire
#

2.12k

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can you not rea

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read

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lmfao

narrow garden
#

any obvious issues wiht this setup?

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i have 3 lines of this but im only making 9 an hour

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im missing like 4 ferrium mining spots but i dont think that would account for so much missing production

fluid fog
#

step up the Shredding for Sandleaf instead of getting it in depot, so you can lessen the use of Unloading Depot.

narrow garden
#

is the unloading depot less efficient or smtn?

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idrc about having extra unloading depots

fluid fog
#

still the same in production but it will eat alot of space for other things.

narrow garden
#

i mean im not gonna build anything else

fluid fog
#

Also moulding for Bottle eats 60/m, you gonna need 4 times of steel production.

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you only have two

ruby sorrel
#

yeah you're only feeding it 1/2 the steel you need to

narrow garden
#

okay yeah that makes sense

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guh fatass production line

paper magnet
narrow garden
#

wot

paper magnet
#

But realistically it doesn't matter cos you have more than enough space

narrow garden
#

i still get 1:3 if i shred before loading it into depot no?

paper magnet
#

Yea but you use 3x more depot unloaders

narrow garden
#

i mean yeah ik

paper magnet
#

If you dont care then it doesn't matter

ruby sorrel
#

yeah but it's generally less annoying to run 1 belt to a shredder before splitting into 3 belts of powder than running 3 belts from the bus

narrow garden
#

considering you dont need any unloaders at all PerliFumo

gaunt shuttle
#

When producing xircon effluent for xircon, what would cause the first crucibles in each production line to clog with effluent and inert xircon? It's replacing my liquid xiranite slot and stopping it from flowing, clogging the whole system.

keeps happening to me but I can't catch it or find the issue because it takes so long I always end up being offline when it occurs

ruby sorrel
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don't put sewage in at first

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you want some clog of the rest of the stuff so it doesn't randomly make effluent

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or just don't run sewage through it

ruby sorrel
#

tbh I wonder if it's safe to leverage that to make it output effluent directly and save a crucible but it seems too sketchy

gaunt shuttle
#

yeah sounds sketchy, haven't considered that. I was just trying to make the pipes look a little nicer

fluid fog
#

Aesthetics and Efficient will not work together.

ruby sorrel
#

just redefine your sense of aesthetics to appreciate efficiency

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I can't stand looking at stashes anymore cus I'm starving for power

hardy drum
#

is there a pipe equivalent to the conveyor belt converger low-priority trick

viscid plover
#

people been testing it but doesn't seems to be consistent at all

icy crescent
#

what's the low priority trick for belt?

fringe summit
#

0% battery gaming

bright zodiac
#

imagine placing 1 protocol stash will shutdown everythong

swift niche
#

does any one have any why this might be happening to me, but I've got 4 grinding units making Originium for the SC Wuling Battery at 100% speed, but for some reason despite me starting the SC Wuling Battery factory at 50 Originium grinds, going back to check it after a while, its down to no Originium. Implying that over time the 4 grinding units are barely not outputting enough Originium to keep the SC Wuling battery running 24/7. If I check the SC Wuling Battery output yields, once every like 1 hour, a single SC wuling battery is output less than usual

upper fiber
#

show 2hrs report

bright zodiac
swift niche
bright zodiac
#

then, its powder issue?

fluid igloo
fringe summit
upper fiber
#

it is belt issue according to those people

swift niche
fringe summit
fringe summit
#

like the report

fluid igloo
bright zodiac
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the thing is, he said dense originium not producing enough, it reach 0

swift niche
earnest sparrow
#

guh itโ€™s not 0

fluid igloo
# swift niche

thats a long looking belts... no way its the belt bug right?

swift niche
#

I started my SC Wuling Battery packaging unit deliberately with 50 Dense Ori Powders inside to see if it was Originium that was the issue. And arfter letting it run for like an hour, I came back and the Dense Ori powders inside were 0

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implying that over time somehow the packaging units were losing Dense Ori Powders

upper fiber
#

it is still server desync issue imo

swift niche
#

cause otherwise if the grinders ran normally, it should remain around 30-50-ish instead

swift niche
fluid igloo
bright zodiac
swift niche
fluid igloo
#

if u shove inside pack, it may reduce overtime yeah...

fluid igloo
#

esp with the belt speed bug when offline

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as long u didnt crash the whole thing, its fine ig

swift niche
fringe summit
upper fiber
fringe summit
#

you thought I was joking when I said they cheated you by 1?

swift niche
fringe summit
#

take this for example

swift niche
#

I guess its just offline desyncing issues. Can any one else send me their 2h graph?

fringe summit
#

it really should be 3800

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but it's 3799

bright zodiac
fringe summit
#

because they embezzel ma energy

fluid igloo
swift niche
#

I guess that must be it

fringe summit
swift niche
#

oh yeah I also had issues with the crucible

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but at this point it doesn't seem that important since its the Dense Originium powder that is the bottleneck for my battery production, not the crucibles

bright zodiac
dark furnace
#

don't be surprised. it's a known bug that happenes to everyone when we go offline

upper fiber
#

smooth line

fringe summit
dark furnace
#

AIC factory never has 100% convertion when we go offline thanks to belt bug. SC battery made it worse because it involves too many steps in the production chain

upper fiber
#

they already fixed the reactor issue

dark furnace
#

the bug exists since 1.0

upper fiber
#

no need for solution anymore

fluid igloo
# swift niche oh yeah I also had issues with the crucible

same, esp its very obvious when im running the alternator setup
every time i logoff then login again, one of the pipes will be empty while the other jam packed
even after i keep resetting them every time
they stay even and balance when im online but when going offline, Jincao will stay full while yazhen gone

im assuming its how they code offline stuff where they compress the data and the belt only sees "jincao" icon on belt and not yazhen even when im running both

fringe summit
#

my morphy stims are going great

swift niche
# upper fiber that's why mine is like this

thats nice. I think my big issues is that I've been like, hyper focused on trying to min max use as little space as possible for my factories when there is more than enough space to make things nice and neat

upper fiber
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you can't be efficient and want compact for now

swift niche
#

I also didn't plan things and just build shit as I went

upper fiber
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till they fixed the issue

bright zodiac
swift niche
#

I guess, I'll redo my wuling battery later. Myabe when 1.2 drops to see if they introduce new factory stuff

fringe summit
swift niche
#

right now I've got like, 2/5ths of the Wuling base space still free from compacting stuff

fringe summit
tawny bear
swift niche
tawny bear
#

took me a hot minute to cram as much as i can :v

swift niche
#

I used up all of my space in the Stockade to turn it into a plantation

upper fiber
#

no need for fluid tank and loop back sewage now, but too lazy to change them

swift niche
#

I've probably got one or two too many sandleaf factories but I've got enough power to spare so its fine

bright zodiac
#

6.6k wuling power

upper fiber
bright zodiac
swift niche
fluid igloo
swift niche
# bright zodiac 6.6k wuling power

I've yet to do those things where you min max battery usage in wuling, I just sacrifice 2 SC wuling batteries to the industry gods for now

tawny bear
#

this game does not want me to be efficient with my yield

fluid igloo
fringe summit
#

I'm waiting for the next crucible update to jam more formulas into 1 crucible

swift niche
tawny bear
fringe summit
#

1 jincao/yaz turn into 2 carbon instead of 1

upper fiber
#

yeah, you only need 1 plant and 1 seed so saved quite free space

fringe summit
#

they also take less space for planters

swift niche
#

alright I'll change it to that next time I make a big revamp of my wuling fac

fringe summit
#

1 planter + seeder instead of 2 plant 1 seed

tawny bear
#

i had a dream they released a new plant that makes 6 carbon when refined

upper fiber
#

and less 30power/4carbon

bright zodiac
fluid igloo
#

also i get that yall will come at me for wasting my xircon production not utiziling it to make food
but as someone who worked before in food factory before... i don like the notion of food production and non-food production share the same place... its disaster bound to happen

swift niche
#

also my Yazhen Syringe [A] production has a similar problem to the Dense Ori production for SC Wuling Batteries, where despite it getting enough materials to run at 100% speed, its losing some mats and leading to 1 less being produced over the course of an hour. I'll assume this is also the offline desync glitch

dark furnace
#

@merry vine it has been a day and I have a perfect 1:1 xiranite yield and usage ratio, no pile up or deficit PerliHodo
and xiron is still capped at the crucible. I got hit with the belt bug delivering the xircon to packaging unit though

swift niche
#

I started the packaging unti production for Yazhen [A] with 50 cupriumt parts inside. But now when I check there are 0 left

dark furnace
swift niche
#

I didn't quite get that, pile up?

dark furnace
#

the lost of buffer items in your packaging unit is caused by the input chain not producing as quick as the packing unit can make stuffs

upper fiber
#

wew why only 206k valley bills, he must used tele

swift niche
dark furnace
#

in practice it doesn't when you go offline

swift niche
#

yeah makes sense ๐Ÿšฌ

dark furnace
#

if you stay online the production is always perfect

swift niche
#

guess I'll just have to live with like a 5% embezzlement tax on my SC Wuling Batteries and Yizhen Syringe [A]'s

fringe summit
swift niche
#

yeah its probably not that big of a deal

fringe summit
#

again it's not a major issue in the grander picture

#

kinda ocd tilting tho

swift niche
#

ye, my current output is enough to outpace Stockades wuling stock savings generation

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so eventually it will be like Valley 4 where the Stockade base is broke 24/7, and I've got maxed out depots

dark furnace
#

@swift niche there was another issue with crucible that every 500 liquid they take away 3, which ruined the production of SC battery because one SC involves 5 crucibles. That's what we call tax.
But I think in your case, the production was halted by the belt bug, chocking the delivery of semi-product to the final machines. So it's more like a stutter or throttle.

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people work around it by building more belts from one machine to another

tawny bear
#

LOOKIT ALL THIS SPACE

swift niche
#

I also realised the crucible liquid bug earlier a couple days ago. I rerouted water pipes and put some sewage depot to see how it would go. At first I assumed this was the cause for the SC wulling battery embezzlement

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but then I checked and saw that the crucible byproducts were actually full in the packaging units

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and it was just the dense ori powders that were the bottleneck

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so yeah it must be some belt issue

dark furnace
#

I haven't tested it after the bug fix, if they ever fixed the tax bug

swift niche
#

game literally unplayable smh

swift niche
tawny bear
tawny bear
#

yuh

dark furnace
#

sad

tawny bear
#

it be like that :v

swift niche
#

was it also like this in V4 and I just never noticed?

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at this point v4 is pretty irrelevant thought the same issues probably were still in effect back then right?

winter ingot
#

I checked wiki, and I realized you can make better fertilizer with the whachamcallit forge of the sky/reactor crucible

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is it worth it tho?

swift niche
#

the only way to make fertilizer is to manually find the burdenbeasts and pat them, and then collect the dung right?

fringe summit
winter ingot
#

thought so

ruby sorrel
#

if you're grinding ginseng sure

fringe summit
#

I dont even check my ginseng farm

ruby sorrel
#

it also helps clear the collection goals a bit faster

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but how many ppl are actually using that much ginseng lol

swift niche
#

the main bottleneck with ginseng farming is getting the meat for me

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I aint going out of my way to kill random wolves in valley 4

ruby sorrel
#

think you can get a bunch from plateau alluvium

swift niche
#

ooh then thats good

#

didnt know that thanks

dark furnace
# tawny bear it's sorta fixed, the liquids are fine now, but there are dips in items

i mean yea if we really want to workaround the belt bug for SC battery we would have to make one more condensed ori cube line, split the cube to 2 SC packaging units so it became 4.5/2s input instead of 4 per unit, and then we also need to split one more xircon to make it a 1.5/2s input for each SC packaging unit ICANT

rn my xircon production line is choked if I only output 1 belt from the crucible to the packaging

winter ingot
#

I kinda want AIC to produce meat at some point, but i'm equally horrified by the thought

ruby sorrel
#

yeah one of them has a bunch of dogs which makes it much less of a pain

swift niche
#

the more likely outcome in my opinion is that its just going to be lab grown meat

ruby sorrel
#

we can just farm the dogs right

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set up a dog breeding unit, and pipe them over to the butchering unit

swift niche
#

yeah if one of the alluviums got like 15 dogs in them we can just farm them

swift niche
ruby sorrel
#

it'll be just like the plant/seed units

dark furnace
#

ngl who even thought of making dogs in endfield drops eatable meat ICANT

ruby sorrel
#

well we also eat the slugs

winter ingot
swift niche
#

OG AK would do that

dark furnace
#

we have those bull like beast and we can only farm dung from them

swift niche
#

dunno if Endfield has the balls tho

fringe summit
swift niche
#

fr

dark furnace
winter ingot
#

it feels like they absolutely would, but upper management would gently put a hand on their shoulder with an angry perlica smile

ruby sorrel
#

why can't we hire ppl to farm for us anyways

dark furnace
# fringe summit it does?

when your SC battery capped in depot, you stop using sewage, which caps your cuprium, and then the yazhen

swift niche
ruby sorrel
#

at least in v4 there's an NPC just standing there going "hey yeah use the farm why not"

fringe summit
#

the trick is that you have a waste facility at the end of the chain

dark furnace
#

as you make 17k SC battery per day, it gets capped just in 4 days

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this is also why people recommend using the SC battery up for outpost first

fringe summit
#

since you can't actually produce more than 2 units/s atm it's pretty trivial to do if you play your pipes properly

dark furnace
#

to avoid capping it in depot

ruby sorrel
#

dw you can mass delete things from depot anyways

#

just make all the SC batts

fringe summit
#

I'm saying you don't need to tho

dark furnace
#

tbf if you stop caring the factory for 4+ days you probably quit endfield entirely already ICANT

fringe summit
#

no i mean you do have to address that issue you know

#

eventually

pulsar steeple
#

My Xiranite stock are probably nonexistent now

fringe summit
#

you gain more than you can waste for street creds

dark furnace
#

true

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but it takes time if you spend on outpost

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what I was talking about is leaving the factory without spending the SC battery on outpost/deleting them. The whole factory clogs in 5 days

fringe summit
#

ye but you can simply fix it systematically

dark furnace
#

wdym systematically

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i am just spilling fact that one probably won't suffer from as long as they play the game normally PerliHodo
so it doesn't really need a fix

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and as other said, you could just bulk delete them if they clog up your depot

fringe summit
#

no I mean it's pretty trivial to fix tho

pulsar steeple
#

Just get a stash heaven as backup if your depot are full

dark furnace
pulsar steeple
#

You probably could get like 40k extra with a single plot of Sub-PAC

ruby sorrel
#

tbh it's happening in v4, if I didn't split my production between citA and buckA along with HC it'd be capped in under a day

fringe summit
#

combine your 4 sewage into 1 2/s pipe, split that into 2 lines, 1 use for your 2 sky forges and 1 into waste facility, eventually when batteries cap at some point T it will simply saturate your sky forge

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you can add additional failsafe on the sky forge too

dark furnace
wispy grove
ruby sorrel
#

but since I did split it it'll take a while before that happens still

dark furnace
#

no pile up, or deficit

wispy grove
dark furnace
#

that's the neat part

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I don't exactly know

wispy grove
#

what are u expecting tho?

upper fiber
#

they already fixed the reactor issue

wispy grove
#

u lose or gain xiranite?

dark furnace
#

I lose xiranite

wispy grove
#

whut

#

why

dark furnace
#

if the crucible tax bug still exist, I expect a lose.
but if they really fixed it, I expect a gain as there's belt bug

upper fiber
#

belt bug isn't a gain

wispy grove
dark furnace
#

for resources it would

dark furnace
#

yea

wispy grove
dark furnace
#

I guess this is due to the xiranite production is also using one belt to feed to the depot PerliHodo

#

let me try 2 belts and see if this will make any difference

wispy grove
upper fiber
#

mine is smooth

golden sapphire
dark furnace
upper fiber
#

what a wasted energy...

wispy grove
#

w8 a minute

ruby sorrel
#

is this the real power plateau?

wispy grove
#

i didnt gain xiranite too

dark furnace
#

what about lose

#

I guess they really fixed the crucible tax bug, that let us have a more stable xiranite yield/usage

tawny bear
wispy grove
#

this is yesterday

dark furnace
wispy grove
#

this is today

golden sapphire
#

if i'm not wrong im the first person to do this PerliFumo

golden sapphire
#

the main issue with doing this is that i literally deleted everything in valley IV

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since it took up protocol space

dark furnace
wispy grove
#

then it means

#

everything is

dark furnace
#

i mean if you already got everything from valley4 stock, then there's nothing to be care of

dark furnace
wispy grove
golden sapphire
#

with wuling HC batteries it'd probably be worth about 7 million power

dark furnace
#

now the only thing they need to fix is offline belt bug

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because that choked my xircon delivery to the packaging unit

golden sapphire
#

assuming the jump from sc to hc is the same of 75%

dark furnace
#

which makes some occational dip in SC battery production

dark furnace
#

yea that's mostly likely belt bug

wispy grove
#

i tried to clean the ferrium dust in my xircon crucible

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yeah theres no build up any more

dark furnace
#

same

#

I wanted to buffer it but it stays the same after a day

#

online/offline

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no change at all

wispy grove
#

mine stayed 0

#

the bug fix is complete

dark furnace
#

real

wispy grove
#

no more 20 splitters for priority flow

dark furnace
#

but I am keeping my overflow setup just in case

wispy grove
young igloo
unique plover
wispy grove
dark furnace
upper fiber
dark furnace
#

you are merging 1.5/s then split it into 0.5/s then join back 1/s

coral orchid
#

waiting new factory

wispy grove
ruby sorrel
#

rusty fluid and yellow fluid

upper fiber
#

no pure white liquid yet...

dark furnace
#

i mean the overflow

wispy grove
ruby sorrel
#

what the heck is that orange pipe doing anyways, is it coolant

upper fiber
#

liquid cuprium

ruby sorrel
#

it just looks like it's looping through that reactor and into another building

wispy grove
ruby sorrel
#

hm actually the output orange is darker than the input

wispy grove
#

that looks like a new type of crucible

ruby sorrel
#

and there's somehow also water in there

dark furnace
coral orchid
upper fiber
#

wew so water, liquid xyra and liquid cuprium, 3 liquid to process

wispy grove
#

w8

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the middle is 9

coral orchid
#

Efficient Xircon is on the way

wispy grove
#

oh my bad the inputs are yellow and red and out put is red

coral orchid
#

Maybe Rust

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Liquid Rust

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or making Cuprium from Liquid

upper fiber
#

liquid xyra not yellow huh

ruby sorrel
#

sandleaf solution PerliWheeze

young igloo
upper fiber
#

i feel like it is aketine...

#

likely new mat

young igloo
#

blood

#

we doing alchemy next patch

upper fiber
#

you need to kill those wolf now to get the meat and blender it for new liquid

dark furnace
upper fiber
#

i just hope they won't use non auto produced stuff, i gonna quit if that happen

young igloo
#

like?

dark furnace
#

wdym non auto produced

upper fiber
#

like monster meat and such

ruby sorrel
#

there's no way it's literally called AIC

young igloo
#

ah

#

maybe theres mob spawn for it

upper fiber
#

bumper rich is exception since it is useless

dark furnace
#

the most they could make us do for non auto I guess, is to make sure they are unimportant

young igloo
#

wait 8 slot

dark furnace
#

despite fertilizer is non-auto but as you said they are neglectable

young igloo
#

can we also squeeze in yazhen solution?

upper fiber
#

anyone has current reactor's pic? how many tubes in there

young igloo
#

2 in 2 out

young igloo
#

owh the reactor

upper fiber
#

the shape is different too

wispy grove
hoary crag
wispy grove
#

the ceiling tells theres a final output in the middle or something

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thats why its 9 slots

hoary crag
# coral orchid waiting new factory

fluids still 2 in 2 out
output is 4 out, which means input can be 4 in as well.

depending on what that center line is for, we could have a total of 8 or 9 crucible slots

dark furnace
fervent tendon
#

power probs with the factory is gonna be the end of me

wispy grove
#

we only have 9 slots tho

dark furnace
sterile stratus
wispy grove
dark furnace
#

no i mean the list I posted

hoary crag
wispy grove
fervent tendon
hoary crag
#

so yeah it can be 8 or 9 depending on what it actually is

upper fiber
#

i'll be waiting for bp, hope those elitist work hard

wispy grove
fervent tendon
#

lmao i alrdy have maxed out batteriues its just they aint going into my thermal banks

sterile stratus
fervent tendon
fervent tendon
dark furnace
sterile stratus
young igloo
fervent tendon
#

im maxed out on batteries its just thermal banks wont stay cuz of the speed and allat bs

#

and now i gotta craft hc ima kms

#

goodnight ppl thats enough of arknight for today

sterile stratus
#

xiranite is made from shredded plant and water right?
i think i know how does it taste

wispy grove
#

more factory fixes tomorrow

fervent tendon
smoky eagle
#

i can't believe it, my amethyst count is huge in wuling

fervent tendon
#

and i dont have my pro bestie bc hes busy doing sleep

sterile stratus
dark furnace
wispy grove
fervent tendon
fervent tendon