aic-factory

[verbal lintel]

its certainly one way to do it i guess

[fervent tendon]

Factory lookin sweet

[tall thunder]

Anyone have Zipline above the Waterfalls?

[unique plover]

this is not cuprium component tho

[vestal tiger]

So much empty spaceee

[unique plover]

this is xiranite component

[fervent tendon]

I need more busses that’s why

This is my factory on day 5

[wispy grove]

Yeah i want the zipline too

W8 how does that work

[unique plover]

for cuprium component im doing this

[tall thunder]

Need to add someone in friendlist then they can share a zipline

[fervent tendon]

Guys is wuiling hard or once u can transfer regions through the depot it becomes easier?

[wispy grove]

How do u share zipline?

[tall thunder]

Right click on the zipline then press share

[wispy grove]

Its hellish

[fervent tendon]

I’m scared lmao but valley 4 took me 5 days to get where I’m at

[wispy grove]

Dont worry its smooth sailing from region lvl1-6

[tall thunder]

Btw you need to be in the same server to share ziplines

[fervent tendon]

[cobalt oriole]

Same server in friends list

[verbal lintel]

oh mb i was misled by the replier earlier, for xiranite gear i did xiranite:sandleaf:orignium as 1:1:2 (x2)
you can do 1:2:4 and just use a control cap
if you want to keep the entire thing running at a very low input for some reason you can split into a protocol stash (each split 1/2 or 1/3 output depending on how many connections there are)

[upper fiber]

how did people test the 497/500 reactor? just run through the reactor or using the reactor?

[wispy grove]

dont worry after playing for a week and reaching region lvl 8 and youll gonna be joining us here soon

[shut hearth]

the what now

[fervent tendon]

im region lvl9! almost lvl 10

[wispy grove]

thats valley 4

im talking about wuling

[fervent tendon]

oh so I CANT TRANSFER FROM MY DEPOT TO WUILING UNTIL im also lvl8 in wuiling....

[wispy grove]

nah, at lvl 1 u can ofc

im just saying ull come back here once u reach lvl 8

https://tenor.com/view/black-and-white-raccoon-hehehe-hahaha-gif-4252892434233422607

[subtle finch]

using

[upper fiber]

so the issue is on the process

[fervent tendon]

interesting if anythign ill hit u up for advice but so far the factory stuff have been easy to understand

imo atleast

[wispy grove]

fluid tank full of water and protocol stash with 500 yazhen

goes to crucible

then goes to another empty fluid tank

thats a controlled environment

[fervent tendon]

omg i forgot about the fluid thingy thats a whole new feature i gotta get used to

UGH i hate this game

[subtle finch]

maybe it's passthrough as well. since no one tested that. but afaik others don't do passthrough, and they still lose items offline

[bright zodiac]

u only need to know, water

for now

[fervent tendon]

...

[upper fiber]

i just did water pass through and no lose yet

[bright zodiac]

u have to be

[fervent tendon]

okay i got this im built diff trust

[bright zodiac]

offline

do the setup, close the game

[upper fiber]

yeah, i offline for 20mins

[wispy grove]

for now

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-maniacal-laugh-gif-25225345

[bright zodiac]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-smirk-6

xircon

[wispy grove]

we becoming bio engineer once the game ends

[fervent tendon]

deadass bro who woulda thought id be good at some like this im deadass sped when it comes to engineering

[fervent tendon]

thats what im doin rn for sandleaves cuz i just unlopcked it

[wispy grove]

youd be good

for now

[fervent tendon]

waiting till i get more then ill make some of the purple gear

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-maniacal-laugh-gif-25225345

[fervent tendon]

lmao

[wispy grove]

you dont have ocd right?

[fervent tendon]

im about to use my tangtang estella alesh and xaihi team

[fervent tendon]

nah

i dont think so!

[bright zodiac]

dont sweat it, at 1.1 patch, and i saw the production line... wtf is tis liquid , that liquid and what liquid
but it probably took minute or or... bit time and u'll get it. Even if dont, i think BP already save the pipe input output as well

sooo dw

[wispy grove]

good keep it that way

[fervent tendon]

sir yes sir

one last question

can i use alesh instead of last rite because i dont have her yet nor yvonne

woohooo

time to lvl em up to 60

[wispy grove]

tangtang will be ur dps?

[fervent tendon]

and make that my main team endmin u helped me out sm for early game

[fervent tendon]

yes

[wispy grove]

fair enough

[fervent tendon]

tang tang dps estella shatter alesh sp regen and xaihi heal

[unique plover]

ty it seems i finllay got it right where i wanted it to be

and everything seems stable

[bright zodiac]

most ppl... lvup lots of Operator to minimal lv40 anyway, lv60 is also not that expensive as team support

[fervent tendon]

yea thats what i do in all gacha games lol

but im gonna lvl this team up to 60 because its gonna be my main

and i have the resources

!!!!

cuz from what i hear tangtang is a crazy dps character

[bright zodiac]

here, u need all operator nexus skill anyway, so.... lv40 (cheap), lv60 if you need the nexus skill, and that character works as team member even at late game

[fervent tendon]

bet that when do u think i should level characters past lvl60?

[bright zodiac]

err dont, focus on dps lv90. after that, you can do whatever you want, fr

[fervent tendon]

okay so the supports 60

till i get the dps max level

so forexample like endmin yvonne tang tang etc

i obv dont wanna spread my resources to thin so ill upgrade tang tang to 90 when im able to and the rest of her team to lvl 60

or 50

[sick basin]

You should consider doing like lvl70-80 only
Lvl90 costs too much for a small gain

As the increase in price vs gains isnt linear

[fervent tendon]

okay then my supports lvl60

i just cleared out a lvl60 boss with a lvl 40 eithout geartang tang

LOl

[subtle finch]

i made an analogy of the backfeed system, after it has stabilized around 1 min. that long beltline keeps a consistent output, even if you send some input to the trash

[sonic summit]

Btw what are the offline bug ?

[subtle finch]

crucible have a low chance of deleting processed item

[fervent tendon]

this is confusing isnt it like a loop?

[sonic summit]

...huh? Is it pipe or lines or both?

[subtle finch]

both

[sonic summit]

Soo i should saving some effluent before ofline?

[verbal lintel]

this is stable...right? (assuming my sewage is stable)

[subtle finch]

just ignore it, you'll just ran out of xiranite

[verbal lintel]

also is there a way to destroy factory items without actively using them for something else?

[subtle finch]

this is not stable offline

[subtle finch]

not automatically

[verbal lintel]

what could i change

[young stag]

how is it not

[subtle finch]

only send one refinement unit sewage. throw the rest. then loop the sewage from crucible instead of throwing it out

[subtle finch]

imagine this crucible skips an output.
2 sewage keeps coming
1 liquid xiranite missed
now you have excess of sewage, that's how buildup happens offline'

[young stag]

you really can’t do anything about it

just stash some of the buildup in a tank idk

[subtle finch]

backfeed returns the appropriate sewage used instead of constant from refinery

you basically turned your sewage source from constant to variable

[thorn pike]

I DID IT

[nova lodge]

now do it all over again for wulling too :3

[thorn pike]

on it

it's over 80k aslready

[verbal lintel]

oh yeah i completely forgot about the whole idea at the start mb i fixed it

i still have the external sewage because i can now stabilise cuprium parts using the gear (which will eventually clog as well...)

[nova lodge]

when there is no uses for cryston parts except for dem ziplines around

[subtle finch]

oh that, you need additional treatment unit. I have it as well since im using all 4 cuprium refinement at 100%

[bright zodiac]

u beat me for that

kudos to u

👍

[ruby sorrel]

don't you randomly lose sewage that way and end up having a feedback loop of extra loss

[nova lodge]

the irony when you need additional treatment units even though math wise it should be correct.....just to deal with the offline sewage issue....
i was hella confused as well at the start too.

[ruby sorrel]

I feel like my offline loss was worse when I kept the feedback loop only

[nova lodge]

i don't think i had that issue at all.
but i need to double check on the crucible feedback later.

[subtle finch]

no, 100% tested, i made a seeder/planter analogy that you can test

[verbal lintel]

for offline? is the offline sewage different from normal sewage (i have 1 refinery of sewage/2s going into the reactor of sewage/2s)

[hushed blaze]

80k zipline tower

[ruby sorrel]

well the way I'm doing it now is just shove all the sewage in and let it overflow into a treament, which works cus I'm not running 100% battery line

[hushed blaze]

Just how many ziplines you wanna make though-

[bright zodiac]

im losing 4500 cuprium now since 1.1 (i still have around 53500)

also losing xircon at some degree as well

[ruby sorrel]

I'm only losing ~1.3% on my xircon rn anyways..... which would be fine if I wasn't only making ~1.5% more than outpost generation

[nova lodge]

hadn't lose any cuprium myself.
but my cuprium parts and bottles are very slooooowly decreasing in total amount.
can always slow down production a bit more for 1 day and it will be topped up for another month.

need to check on xircon rocks too as well for confirmation.

[subtle finch]

I get that take a lot,you lose exactly 1 sewage if you lose 1 liquid xiranite. even if you have extra sewage, your liquid xir. rate can't compensate

[bright zodiac]

im losing about 8% cuprium and 4% xircon

since 1.1

[ruby sorrel]

if the losses are the same then it'd look a lot nicer to do it that way

dunno if I have the energy to make everything look nice knowing it's going to be jank regardless though

[bright zodiac]

yea ofc, but imho, its smthg the dev should fix

its smthg that wasnt suppose to happen

[bright zodiac]

i dont want to reroute pipe just to solve the extra clogg but it still... means some item are losing on the process

[nova lodge]

V4 base might just explode later

[bright zodiac]

after 2months

i finally got my v4 blackout with me having 79K ore in everytbing and 80K sandleaf

guess whats the cuase

[subtle finch]

for online. 1 lane of my xiranite goes to component. so 0.5 sewage needs to go to treatment

[bright zodiac]

it was the delayed battery that reach the thermal bank, thx to the game slowly eating away 1 production item

[nova lodge]

UWST power tax :3

[bright zodiac]

[subtle finch]

should i rotate my plot layout? horizontal pipes make it feel cramped

as opposed to this side

[nova lodge]

went with 6 electric pylon myself, less cramping issue and looks much more sparse.
prevent npc from getting stuck as well.

whoops, update, its 4

[subtle finch]

good idea

[nova lodge]

glory to water conduits :3

[subtle finch]

nice, i thought back to back sprinklers would look less messy

guess ill rotate it then

[nova lodge]

[dark furnace]

I am still pumping water directly from the pump because I am out of capacity soon

using conduits increases 4 capacity

[scenic swift]

Sorry to tell you but overloading just moves the 119 dip to a 121 spike, there is still no way to make all the lines flat, except to stay online.

[dark furnace]

pain

[nova lodge]

may the protocol limit further expand to 400 later....
or just give us 450 =.=

[dark furnace]

yea it was just for the funny

I scrapped the test build already and built back a normal one

took me 30 mins

[scenic swift]

[nova lodge]

zhuang, please don't tax us this much

[unkempt estuary]

my gear comps are maxed

need to use them now

[nova lodge]

just recently started with copium stuff, so only got about 2k ish copium components

[unkempt estuary]

you'll get there

[nova lodge]

just realized a lot of new gears have some good match stuff for artificing.

[unkempt estuary]

just remember u only get 120 copium/min

[scenic swift]

This is what men want and it's (offline tax evasion)

[unkempt estuary]

so only 4 outputs of copium

manage everything with those only

[leaden drift]

yuh

[nova lodge]

zhuangs IRS gonna find you.....

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[nova lodge]

[verbal lintel]

oh this looks more compact, thats why you need a lower ratio for the sewage

im only using 1:1 rn for cuprium and letting the other go to the treatment

[peak sinew]

why do you need a wall here

[verbal lintel]

once i run out of gear components to make, ill switch it to double bottle

[leaden drift]

to float

i like capacity limit swapping

[unkempt estuary]

to protecc u from ziplining the enviornment and destory it

[dark furnace]

I suck at compact build because I personally prefer modular builds

[leaden drift]

IF X is maxed full send the next production

[subtle finch]

are you making comps?

[scenic swift]

what I cant figure out is why theoretical xirinate usage keeps fluctuating between 150/180 with 2 xircon and 1 comp

[unkempt estuary]

also its been like 2 weeks since I last collected rare mats

am I cooked chat

[unkempt estuary]

it looks clean

[frail trail]

reactor crucible is a bitch

[dark furnace]

yea need to wait for the dev to fix it

[peak sinew]

zip it

[dark furnace]

unless you buffer everything like me by sacrificing xiranite

then you get flat SC battery

despite there will be some spike for liquid xiranite and xircon eff, that's when they produced more to cover the crucible bug

[subtle finch]

mine is at 150

[dark furnace]

xiranite?

[subtle finch]

ohh, i get it now, i think. when machines are asleep they dont count towards theoretical

[peak sinew]

I have no idea why the origi not drop a single bit

[scenic swift]

hmm yeah I guess that must be it

[hushed blaze]

Try disable the rig vein then

[peak sinew]

Somehow im still beable to make battery

[dark furnace]

you are still using less than yield, check if something clogged

it seems that one of your refiner is not connected?

[hushed blaze]

Oh wow. Water drain way quicker than refined carbon

[peak sinew]

i left the xiran to base belt on

my battery dropped to 15/minute

[dark furnace]

?

[peak sinew]

cut it

[dark furnace]

15/m?

[tawny bear]

it's only 30/min water consumption, that's like half a fluid pump :v

[peak sinew]

i make the small one, it should be 18

[scenic swift]

you gotta add 4 power plant to burn the extra 30 originium

[pulsar willow]

btw about the issue with underproducing the xircon or clogging the sewage

did anyone try making it twice as large to underfeed everything

or at least so it underfeeds the machines

[hushed blaze]

Ah, wish it would work-

[tall thunder]

z

[dark furnace]

you have 3 of those LC setup?

[pulsar willow]

isn't it 1 LC

[peak sinew]

3 xiran to battery one to that new red component

[tall thunder]

My sewage management

[hushed blaze]

Is it really necessary to use refine ferrium powder just to revert it back to ferrium?

[dark furnace]

why?

[hushed blaze]

Well, why not-

[dark furnace]

for what though

why do you have excess ferrium powder

[tall thunder]

Just put it on Depot

[hushed blaze]

Not excess but i just unlocked the recipe.
I did put some powder in depot

[dark furnace]

as much as I could see your graphs and setup, I can't really tell what is missing for that 30 origrium usage. Origrium ore yield is 480/m but you are only using 450/m

[unkempt estuary]

today imma stop making syringe and put another 6/min yield SC battery line

[hushed blaze]

Sadly 1 powder revert back to 1 ferrium instead of 2
But imagine it does-

[tall thunder]

[dark furnace]

well no way that would happen, otherwise people could just clone ferrium and never worry about the ores

[peak sinew]

its 480

but could be an error somewhere because i used water mining

[frail trail]

2250 theoretical water usage

wth

[dark furnace]

the original pic you showed us was 450/m usage
#aic-factory message

[peak sinew]

i min max wiring with water

[peak sinew]

let me recheck my water

[verbal lintel]

ore planter

[peak sinew]

i using water
way less wiring

[dark furnace]

looks like something is throttling your production that clogged the origirum

[unkempt estuary]

finish your arknights first

why didnt u play arknights

[tall thunder]

[unkempt estuary]

never understood water usage in this game

[verbal lintel]

are there no amethyst spots in wuling

[dark furnace]

[scenic swift]

16 LC Battery = 480 Originium 80 Xiranite
4 Comp = 40 Xiranite
No reactors so no offline Xiranite loss
I wish we had enough Originium for 24 LC Batteries

[unkempt estuary]

nope

also why do u even need them?

[hushed blaze]

I mean, my water yield and usage is-

[peak sinew]

seem fine

[tall thunder]

Its those damn pipes having to take turns to distribute water instead of actually acting like water

[verbal lintel]

this is the most unholy thing ive ever seen

[unkempt estuary]

tf

[nova lodge]

wait a min.....water hydro can mine everything?

[verbal lintel]

my valley is crashed

[verbal lintel]

yes

[tall thunder]

I cant add more buildings outside. Im close to max cap

[nova lodge]

why i hadn't figure that out before O.O!?

[verbal lintel]

if you look at recipes it says everything

[nova lodge]

power saving ;3

[peak sinew]

mining with water avoid unwanted wiring

[verbal lintel]

but who wants to pipe water to mines just to use 10 less power

[peak sinew]

i link water from base so its way less electric poles

[hushed blaze]

Only in wuling

[nova lodge]

[verbal lintel]

besides not all your power savings are saved

[unkempt estuary]

it can but idk about the efficiency

[verbal lintel]

because you still need to power your water collector

[peak sinew]

it just look like this

[nova lodge]

.leak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1406921241389961247/artworks-OcZ9DuwfBuSjNSy0-THYYuQ-t500x500.png

[tall thunder]

Im close to max buildings

[devout egret]

Using hydro rig increases the protocol capacity

[nova lodge]

ah yeah, does need more for protocol limit....

so its not all good news

[scenic swift]

We could make 16 LC battery and 4 comps for 8 hours a day while sleeping and 12 HC battery while online but.. wish there was a quickswap for changing completed factory layouts.

[dark furnace]

some quick hack would be putting stuffs inside your AIC as much as you can, zipline/conduits inlet etc

[hushed blaze]

Anyway, who wanna buy this in v4? 👀

[tall thunder]

Man. And we barely have any mines yet

[peak sinew]

i dont have to wiring into this random cave

[nova lodge]

everyone ;v.
too much v4 creds :3

[dark furnace]

I bought everything and no where to spend my v4 stock bills

[tall thunder]

Yes

[dark furnace]

real

[verbal lintel]

it would be dope if you could give it to wulfguard and he cries...like a devil...

[dark furnace]

btw you can remove the middle pylon for 1 capacity

[nova lodge]

nah, wulfgard will go full drip mode instead ;v

[verbal lintel]

wulfguard using cavaliere would be sick

[dark furnace]

you don't need 3 pylons for 4 pumps

[peak sinew]

some cave location wasted 3 electric poles
that is not good

[hushed blaze]

Zipline in mid-

[dark furnace]

mid what?

[hushed blaze]

The fluid tank

[sonic summit]

btw asking about buffering sewage is it to make the tank empty or full?

[tall thunder]

I got an itch for putting pylon on everything

[hushed blaze]

Let the tank full and then you can stash them manually 🔥

[unkempt estuary]

OCD and ADHD moment

[scenic swift]

if its filling up it would eventually clog 🤔

[verbal lintel]

isnt there a cap for this

[peak sinew]

ok seem like my origi drop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220810810658525301/1463777942827171892/xormo.gif

[unkempt estuary]

Origi mentioned

[dark furnace]

yea they just said they are capping the capacity soon

[verbal lintel]

how do you have 0 ferrium and 80 amethyst

[peak sinew]

That for bottle

[sonic summit]

i asking about buffering when offline though is it better empty or full the sewage in fluid tank?

[tall thunder]

Ok i fixed it.

[unkempt estuary]

forgor off topic aint allowed

[hushed blaze]

Ferrium gets dried into bottle and powder

[unkempt estuary]

that should come with a trigger warning

[dark furnace]

empty, if it's full it means you are clogging cuprium

[unkempt estuary]

tf

[dark furnace]

now the pylon is not aligning with the pumps

[tall thunder]

I cant put them all close to each other

[unkempt estuary]

y do u need 58k ferrium bottles

[dark furnace]

fail in aesthetic

[sonic summit]

but last time i do that my sc battery stops

[hushed blaze]

Yazhen C

[dark furnace]

fr I don't understand why pumps can't be placed next to each other

like what even is the reason

[scenic swift]

same reason farm cant be placed next to eachother

[sonic summit]

you mean plot farm right?

[scenic swift]

yeah devs like their empty spaces

[hushed blaze]

Plants somehow reasonable but pumping unit?

[dark furnace]

because you aren't inputting enough sewage, if you are using backfeed from xircon, they aren't actually 2/s but something like 1.9/s, that decimal makes one of your crucible not fully effective

[unkempt estuary]

imagine us maxing SC wuling only for them to put HC wuling battery in 25 days

[sonic summit]

these 3 is for the sewage input

[nova lodge]

^time to nuke the base again....

[sonic summit]

[dark furnace]

they are tank, not the exact input

[peak sinew]

i forgot i can make red bottle now

[hushed blaze]

Its better stockpile sc tbh. HC might open soon

[scenic swift]

if farm plots could have no empty space between I'll bet the AI teammates helping you would work so much smoother

[tall thunder]

How bout this?

[dark furnace]

oh mb

i thought the bottom right was treatment too

[sonic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutewater-cinemalloyd-lloyd-frontera-the-greatest-estate-developer-cinema-lloyd-gif-15188449496426895752

[verbal lintel]

[nova lodge]

just space it out, you need that empty space for sprinklers anyway.

[hushed blaze]

Just pls the HC battery not be cuprium powder + xircon inert

[verbal lintel]

do people actually automate farm plots

[dark furnace]

draw something with them

[verbal lintel]

ive planted mine and havent harvested them since i started the game...

[serene lodge]

Guys whats wrong with my set up?

[dark furnace]

you mean manual labour the plots

[scenic swift]

you wouldnt need the space for sprinklers they could still be placed on the outside

[nova lodge]

been harvesting them a lot, especially wulling.
just need to press once and let it be.

[verbal lintel]

sprinkler is some automation i guess

[nova lodge]

let your teamate farm the remaining 19 ;3

[dark furnace]

i mean kinda yea because the wuling plants need to water 3 times before they can be harvested

no way I am logging in to water them

[nova lodge]

more or less, but its still adjustable at its present state.

[serene lodge]

Why i wake up with 0 energy

[scenic swift]

and if they are closer 1 sprinker could reach 3 or 4 maybe?

saving power

[dark furnace]

no power?

[tall thunder]

[sonic summit]

i got same ptsd yesterday

[sonic summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1475480676160765994/HBxHp9ibIAAHLJR.gif

[hushed blaze]

Happens

[tall thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1473685093989224468/grj_end260218.gif

[dark furnace]

water flowing above head doesn't increase IQ

[devout egret]

Not sure how packing unit units decide to go to the thermal bank or stash

[scenic swift]

1 super sprinkler in the middle should be enough for the entire farm.. like this. Devs need to up their farming research

[dark furnace]

[hushed blaze]

Sprinkler in aic facilities just built different.

[tall thunder]

I want to see my pipes from the distance

[dark furnace]

real they looks high tech and big but they could only spray 2 meters

[tawny bear]

shredder looks high tech when it's a glorified paper shredder :v

endfield industries takes its pride in overengineering

[tall thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1479844508463009966/tt_end260307.gif

[dark furnace]

tbf it is able to identify what you are feeding it so it won't shread battery like what tang tang did

[hushed blaze]

Tangtang shredding battery?

[tall thunder]

Its from a clip

[dark furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQ6IftgWkg

[hushed blaze]

Ah, fanmade

[tawny bear]

the shredder did that on purpose =3=

[hallow summit]

Don’t forget 512 limits too

[tall thunder]

Which?

[hallow summit]

Placement limit on main AIC

[sonic summit]

meanwhile mine is a mess

[hushed blaze]

Hmm

[tall thunder]

I usually copy paste my farm

[sonic summit]

i feeling bored so i make it my self.... took me 20h in 2 play season to finish it

[tall thunder]

I still need more Dense Originium farms

[dark furnace]

I guess my AIC looks alright

[hushed blaze]

sigh i have to log in and manually place originium ore in stash again-

[tall thunder]

I need to use another bus port

[sonic summit]

btw i never though that i can place 1 pump there

[sterile stratus]

should this be about 5500w? i'm using hc valley battery

[sick basin]

5.7k ye

Ugly looking but thats a 2nd thing

[sterile stratus]

i forgot the 200 base

can i get closer to 5400 that's my power usage

[sick basin]

If u do pwm ye

[sterile stratus]

yeah i'm lowk calculate

[sick basin]

Theres website for it so

Dont need to calculate nun

[sterile stratus]

ik but i'm pretty good at math

[sick basin]

:clueless:

[sterile stratus]

confidence

gotta do it myself

[digital portal]

anyone have a very simple syringe C blueprint without any depot bus and other high-level stuff ? I need something for starter

[sterile stratus]

if i can't i'll search for more help xd

[sterile stratus]

have you tried endfielddev website

i mean endfieldtools.dev

[digital portal]

I tried but they are all high-level, or at least I was unable to find any early game ones

[sterile stratus]

there's filter i think

[sick basin]

I mean, the depot bus-less is the same

Just hook it up to the pac

[digital portal]

yeah but the game is not allowing me to place it down without the depot bus

that is the issue

[sick basin]

Then replicate it manualy

[digital portal]

Im doing it with blueprints because I dont want to do it manually lol

[sick basin]

[hoary crag]

I can whip one up in a few minutes, but I'm in Asia tho so you'd have to copy it from sight

[elder thistle]

well this was a uh, interesting experiment

[digital portal]

;-; Im on EU

[sick basin]

Surely getting 1 bus upgrade isnt expensive

[digital portal]

without anything, it is. I have unlocked dammed wulling since 3 weeks but Im lazy to build or do anything factory related ;-; I dont like the factory part of the game, there are some people like me.

[sick basin]

3 weeks? Thats ouchie

[sterile stratus]

oh so you need a beginner bp for wuling

[lilac phoenix]

[digital portal]

well yeah, I dont have a thing except with the mining nodes.

[hoary crag]

have you progressed enough in the main story to unlock environmental monitoring btw?

[tawny bear]

you get bp by completing beatmaps

[sterile stratus]

...xd

[digital portal]

Am done with the story

[sterile stratus]

i think i have a pretty simple yazhen A blueprint

from the website

[elder thistle]

4th gets no water at all so not quite capable of what it theoretically can supply, 3rd idles at points, and the whole thing takes up more space bc of the control ports than 2 separate lines anyway, but the concept might be useful for...something?

[hoary crag]

isn't like one environmental monitoring job or two enough to get you a depot bus in sub pac?

[tall thunder]

Did you just merged Sewage and Water?

[digital portal]

is that a feature ?

[hard yew]

I just realized that my constant ferrium deficit in Wuling was caused by me forgetting to turn one miner back on after I initially built my factory back in 1.0.

[elder thistle]

Yes

[sterile stratus]

if it works it works

[tall thunder]

💀

[sick basin]

Yes. It was in the main story

[sterile stratus]

i'm too lazy to beautify my factory

[digital portal]

I didnt pay attention ;-; but I will check it, and try to afford a depot bus then

[hard yew]

I never noticed because I was using metastorage transfer with ferrium to unknowingly offset the deficit until yesterday

[elder thistle]

It's not full throughout, at least if you're trying to do max water/sewage, but if you have some overhead it could be useful for stuff

[sterile stratus]

can i do better with my wuling factory

[elder thistle]

The splitter/converger logic is fighting each other probably

But it does mean you can converge different liquids in a single pipeline

[tall thunder]

[subtle finch]

make 2 more forge

[sterile stratus]

both my sc wuling and yazhen A production is 6/min idk if i can do better

[sterile stratus]

theoretical xiranite yield is 120 bro

i had 4 forges

[subtle finch]

then use more xiranite. half the forge is basically clogged

[tall thunder]

Make more Carbon Farms

[hoary crag]

for me my ocd can't take it if it doesn't look good

[sterile stratus]

mhm makes sense

[hoary crag]

😭

[sterile stratus]

xd

finally i can get approximately 5250 more energy

[pulsar cypress]

Block ur xyranite production, copy paste..
So u have 4 forge working..
Then copy paste the battery one, so u have 12/mins battery.

[sterile stratus]

apparently it's 22000*(1/8+1/9+1/384) = about 5251.73

[sterile stratus]

i think i should makes something else cuz i will consume originium ore too fast

[tall thunder]

My power is exactly 5k

[sterile stratus]

2^7*3 lol

[sterile stratus]

bro's wasting 730W

[pulsar cypress]

Do u place rig on all the ore mine?
It should be fit enough..

[sterile stratus]

is 480 max

[tall thunder]

[pulsar cypress]

2 set battery plant is 480 ori exact..

[sterile stratus]

hm

ig i'll have to check what's consuming 60 more ori

btw can anyone check for me if this is about 5251

i did 1/(2^3)+1/(3^2)+1/(2^7*3)

batter is 1100w 40s

[pulsar cypress]

Im dumb with this thing.. So let other do the calc.. XD

[sterile stratus]

imma test and wait 10 min

lowk

[viscid plover]

i just use dige
i turn on and off my machine so often i can't be bothered to calculate everytime

[coral orchid]

Anyone here already got this problem fixed already?
If not, are the dev already aknowledge this kind of bug?

[coral orchid]

sadly for mine

[pulsar cypress]

Its the offline fluctuations thing right?
Normal occurrence?

[sterile stratus]

shoot i forgot adding another splitter for the 1/8 thing

that explains

[coral orchid]

Server desynchronization
Happened from 1.0 even at Valley IV

I hope that dev could know and fix this

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Yass.. That..
Me just let it be..

[onyx pier]

check the other graphs too, like the mats making all those

[hoary crag]

how are ya'll even reaching that high?

out of curiosity

[sterile stratus]

my line is pretty straight ig it's not happening for me

[pulsar cypress]

Or maybe from like the item control, splitter, converger, etc thing.
That make item movement a tiny bit slower?

[tall thunder]

Multifarm

[pulsar cypress]

*me who chillin with 3.340..

[tall thunder]

I need another AIC

[coral orchid]

1 SC Wuling + 1 HC Valley
(HC Wuling transfer from surplus by Dijiang)

[hoary crag]

I meant like power demand

[sterile stratus]

more facilities?

[pulsar cypress]

War machine connect to pylon?

[tall thunder]

Imma use the rest for the Turrets

[pulsar cypress]

[tall thunder]

Ive seen someone put multiple turrets on the mat farms

[pulsar cypress]

Definitely war machines..

[sterile stratus]

makes sense lol

[tall thunder]

I havent unlock the Flamethrower yet

[hoary crag]

4 xiranite lines
12/min SC wuling battery
6/min Syringe A
2+/min Syringe C

[sterile stratus]

your looks so clean bro i wish

[tall thunder]

That looks neat like City Skylines

[sterile stratus]

mine's a literal mess

[tall thunder]

[coral orchid]

2 x SC Wuling Maker
1/2 x Meds-C Wuling
1 x Meds-A Wuling
1/2 x Xiranite Component part (standby)
1/2 x Cuprium Component Part (Standby)

• Zipline
• Mining Rig

[sterile stratus]

now i can't even fix it without break everything and start again

should i

[tall thunder]

I cant even move my bus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1475530500784525392/grj_end260223_01.gif

[coral orchid]

Additionally, I make SC Wuling at Sub AIC
So I need 4x Filling + 4x Separator

[dark furnace]

I scrapped mine like 3 times and rebuilt them for testings

[pulsar cypress]

*as long as it producing as i should be.. All good..

XD

[tall thunder]

My sub right now

I think i made too much

[dark furnace]

did you know... you can make 2x carbon with wuling plants

[small creek]

i think u use too little

[coral orchid]

My Sub AIC

[tall thunder]

Not worth with pipes around

[sterile stratus]

why i have to reconnect the conduits after moving them 😭

i'm crine

[nova lodge]

i probably will use this as a reference for later battery production.

needing 20 dense originum for batteries is taking up quite a bit of space ;v

[dark furnace]

yea but it uses only 1 of each planter and seeder to replace 4 planters and 2 seeders

[sterile stratus]

is there a way to turn off all facilities in an area or all

[dark furnace]

select all then tab iirc

[tall thunder]

Stash them

[sterile stratus]

ohh

[ornate sorrel]

is there any reason my xiranite stash grows despite the game supposedly using 120 xiranite and producing 120 xiranite per minute?

[dark furnace]

can be done in the bulk select mode

there should be a key map hint on the right hand side

[sterile stratus]

am stuck

[upper fiber]

delete it

[hushed blaze]

Here we go-

[dark furnace]

bingo

[hushed blaze]

Often happens when you put facilities too close

[dark furnace]

well I was pushed down to water too many times while placing pumps

[pulsar cypress]

Normal occurrence..

[sterile stratus]

actually i was jumping around to connect conduits and yeah

hopefully in the future i don't have to pull out a paper and start calculating for pwm

[nova lodge]

please allow us to connect conduits via top down view

[pulsar cypress]

Oh true..

[dark furnace]

reason why I don't like conduit in my builds

because I have to exit 2d mode to connect them

[pulsar cypress]

Also optional to delete belt/pipe when they are stacked.. -_-)

[dark furnace]

and they break connection when I move them in 2d mode 😭

at least make them stay connected when I move them

and break only if they are out of 200m range

or when I stash them

[sterile stratus]

this

[coral orchid]

uhh.... stupid limit

[nova lodge]

a reason why i moved my building and pumps outside the outpost...

[pulsar cypress]

[sterile stratus]

shouldn't this be 4500?

[coral orchid]

Even outside of outpost

Basically a whole region affected

[sterile stratus]

can anyone help me ts lol

[coral orchid]

Just use 1 HC Valley + 1 SC Wuling

all done

[sterile stratus]

sorry if i miscalculated

[sterile stratus]

then i must transfer the battery

[pulsar cypress]

*just use Dige..

[coral orchid]

Use tech name : "Dijiang"

[sterile stratus]

hm

[pulsar cypress]

Oneswap Moving Vendor Dijang..

[sterile stratus]

thinking really hard

[serene lodge]

I should be missing ferrium right?

[pulsar cypress]

*send tons of battery at once.
*then forgot to resupply coz it last very long
*factory died suddenly someday.. XD

[sterile stratus]

i think you're using ferrium too fast

[pulsar cypress]

Or need lvl up to upgrade..

[serene lodge]

How many ferrium u r mining?

[pulsar cypress]

Ferrium is correct.. 90 yield..

Only orig should be 480 if max upgraded..

[serene lodge]

How do u guys make stuff with 90

The syringe and stuff

[sterile stratus]

i think this is lowk fine

[serene lodge]

Need 120

[sterile stratus]

craft syringe A

[serene lodge]

It needs 120 ferrium no?

[pulsar cypress]

60 to battery..
30+meta 25 to drink C..

Make it to 55..

2.75 instead of 3..

[small creek]

is this wuling

[sterile stratus]

yeah

[small creek]

4.4 looks like a lot

[pulsar cypress]

[pulsar cypress]

Similar to me.. Me 3340..

[small creek]

i can get 3300 soon

gonna remove 1 more crucible somewhere

[pulsar cypress]

Minmax to the max..

[hoary crag]

that is a busy sub pac

[sterile stratus]

my power went from 100 to 20 and then 100 again

i think that's safe

[hoary crag]

yup

as long as it has a cycle of repeating the same numbers then you're good

mine drops to around 25-15% before it goes up to 100

[sterile stratus]

my power is currently 4.49/4.7(kw) should i lower the power output to ~4533

or it's too risky

[pulsar cypress]

Its kinda risky ig..

[hoary crag]

idk why that one spike is like that but oh well

[tall thunder]

Just use 2 Batteries. 1 T1 and 1 T2 Wuling batteries

[hoary crag]

courtesy of my ocd

[tall thunder]

[hoary crag]

plus it's all modular so I could easily swap any line with anything else

each "module" option I have in the center have an area of 30x26

[pulsar cypress]

Probably thats when the battery start entering, so energy filled/supplied..
(When the % going up again)

[hoary crag]

no what I meant is that the spike looks different from the others

idk why that's that lol

[pulsar cypress]

But got bugged/lagged in the server..

[hoary crag]

fair

[upper fiber]

so the devs even stole power output huh

[hoary crag]

lmao

the crucible tax is already more than enough to cripple us

now they want to take more from our energy

[viscid plover]

small indie company churn out content slow and full of bugs, need to be understanding on our part

[hoary crag]

soupsoup wanted us to have an aic in theirs to help with food and supplies

so my sub pac only has food and med lines lol

don't mind the planters that are off

the nuclear power plant is in the core aic

[upper fiber]

yeah, smol company with smol low end server sadly

[sterile stratus]

ts should work i think

[pulsar sail]

I hate the offline bug... just logged in and it made me sad

but then the game made me happy

[hoary crag]

lmao

behold, the great wall of stashes

[pulsar cypress]

Oil pump nozzle gained..

[hoary crag]

south = lc wuling batteries
west = sc wuling batteries
north = syringe c

[pulsar sail]

what the hell

[pulsar cypress]

Factory wall..

[hoary crag]

yes

[lapis crane]

it disappointed me as it didn’t connect

[wispy grove]

raising a barrier just incase your factory gets invaded

[hoary crag]

same here

[lapis crane]

imagine it connect in a loop

with running amethyst

[pulsar sail]

you could remove the bus part

[nova lodge]

the stashes should be packed with nothing but bombs

drop in titan fall later :v

[hoary crag]

but I can't sell them tho

even tho soupsoup would definitely love to buy some

[pulsar cypress]

Filled with sewage bottle..
To be sell to wuling peps..

[small creek]

grape flavored energy drink

[nova lodge]

strawberry flavored ;3

filled with much copium

[hoary crag]

imagine if we can make liquid versions of ore

[nova lodge]

Xiranite

[floral pollen]

is there a way to slightly slow down the production of sewage using pumps

[nova lodge]

nope

[floral pollen]

really hate how your factory just naturally clogs if you dont pay attention

[nova lodge]

best way is adding a control port with 1 fluid tank and 1 waste treatment plant attached.
this way, if it over flows, you will know
though, generally, the extra waste treatment plant should cover for the excess.

[wispy grove]

wanna try mine?

[shut rover]

How does everyone else do their cuprium and sewage

[small creek]

i use priosplitting

for both

[wispy grove]

mine is doing good so far, i ignored the fluctuations. made sewage split that doesnt do any sewage build up

[sterile stratus]

cuprium for yazhen A, sewage for sc wuling battery

[wispy grove]

like literally

[floral pollen]

right, i guess its better to have a factory be slightly slower than clog overnight lol

[sterile stratus]

although i lowk eat and drink those

[nova lodge]

slower? personally didn't have the issue.
sewage is still always maxed out. (for the usage end)
since a small amount of my xiranite is used for component production.

so it didn't slow down by much, and maintains at about 11.5 battery production.

[sterile stratus]

i mean just calculate the input and output to prevent that

[hoary crag]

I add fluid tanks as a buffer for me to manually clear

[shut rover]

I guess the best way is to have an overflow treatment design on my own

[hoary crag]

although yeah, it does mean I have to manually clear it every once in a while

[small creek]

my sewage and cuprium automatically adjust based on xiranite input

[floral pollen]

i think my problem rn is i wanna run syringe C as well so once ferrium is low that's when it starts to clog

[nova lodge]

mine is completely automated atm.
except for maybe needing to adjust cuprium parts and bottle use maybe about once per month.

[wispy grove]

others try to clog the crucibles to make sewage go to treatment plant just for it to function properly. i dont have that issue anymore. theres neither sewage nor liquid xiranite in my crucibles.

[small creek]

if i use more xiranite on cuprium comp, the cuprium from syringe will automatically go to cuprium comp

if i use less, it will also use less automaticlaly

[nova lodge]

ferrium shouldn't impact how much cuprium you use though....

[sterile stratus]

lol

[floral pollen]

i mean

my setup relies on the fact nothing slows down

otherwise its a clog domino effect

[nova lodge]

just get the no.s right and you should be fine on most ends.

[sterile stratus]

this is beyond hillarious... i just forgot to connect a conduit and then asking why my production is halved

[nova lodge]

happens a lot

[floral pollen]

i haven't logged in since yesterday gotta check if my current thing is good or not lol

[sterile stratus]

it lowk affect the production chain for yazhen and it slow the battery production as well

at least i figured that out

[floral pollen]

like this was a pain in the eyes

[lapis crane]

clog?

[nova lodge]

ehhh.....

[sterile stratus]

clogged sewage?

lemme drink tat

[floral pollen]

no batteries
for 12 hours 💀

[nova lodge]

yeah, you need to optimize it more.

[wispy grove]

i reccomend not using any splitters or convergers(includingbridges) within the cuprium outputs belts of the refinery, it slows down the belts. thats why you get a stack of cuprium inside of refinery even tho theres no sewage build up

[floral pollen]

dang fr?

rip conduits ig

actually not really i just need to place double now

[nova lodge]

server unable to calc 2 products going in and out at the same time accurately

[wispy grove]

more bridges passing through the belts have slower belt speed than bridgeless one

[nova lodge]

i didn't use bridge....and I STILL CLOG
for my refineries

[wispy grove]

oh dont connect it to moulding or fitting, it also act as a belt delay

[floral pollen]

for clarification is this is conveyors for cuprium or the sewage pipes?

[wispy grove]

just direct it to protocol stash instead

[nova lodge]

how much unloaders do i even need there....
guess i will just ignore this for now since its not stalling the system too much.

[wispy grove]

not unloaders, protocol stash is enough

[lapis crane]

wrong pic

[floral pollen]

okay so what im getting

[green moon]

WHEN CAN PENGMIN USE THIS

[nova lodge]

need unloaders for moulding and part production still =.=

[floral pollen]

will attaching 100 fluid tanks just solve all problems

[green moon]

TOO PEAK

[lapis crane]

also for sewage build up
dont forget to deal with excess one when offline tax happened

I’m using this to deal with both lower usage of sewage from making component and also taxation overflow

[floral pollen]

for like the 24 hours im offline lol

[wispy grove]

i mean if you dont mind the clogging within the refineries, its fine i guess. whats important is that sewage isnt clog

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-14284264219182206721

[nova lodge]

yep, still working smoothly thus far :3
as long as i can drain the outpost creds later, all is good :3

[floral pollen]

how does this work exactly lol

is that 2x2 all convergers?

[wispy grove]

all i can say is that if you try to direct it to protocol stash, the build up within the refinery will be like atleast 1 for every 6-8 hrs

[floral pollen]

well except for the top right

[lapis crane]

yeah start from cuprium sewage that will messed up both xiranite and xircon output

and then everything will choke

[wispy grove]

much better than getting 50 when you wake up

[lapis crane]

basically just 2 refineries sewage overflow proof pipe system

basically focus sewage on crucible until overflow
and the rest will lead to treatment without going 0 on crucible

[nova lodge]

mineral clog is fine....sewage clog though.... 💀

[wispy grove]

oh and my swastika priority flow works so well, i can assure you theres no build up within 8 hrs

[floral pollen]

hmm very interesting

[nova lodge]

the base gonna get nuked later again once HC battery comes out.

[lapis crane]

every total production loss isnt fun

[floral pollen]

man everything would be so much easier if they add some overflow router man

[wispy grove]

im using lack of sewage from xirconcrucible to cancel out the build up that comes from the refineries

[nova lodge]

its not.
but as long as it doesn't impact the end result goals, a bit of inefficiencies should be fine to some extend

[floral pollen]

the flaws are way more evident cause i started from mindustry lol

[lapis crane]

the main culprit is offline tax (crucible bug)
which everyone suffered to make it overflow on sewage if not properly dealt with

[wispy grove]

my effluent crucible from 12 hrs ago till now still have 1 drop of sewage.

[floral pollen]

ill try that setup for sure though then probably 10 tanks for my crucibles

[wispy grove]

the tax is inevitable, just use that tax to your advantage

[nova lodge]

just add another waste treament plant to deal with excess sewage ;3

[wispy grove]

how many treatment plants are u using?

[nova lodge]

wullings IRS is innevitable indeed ;3

me? 3 on cuprium refinnery area, 2 conduit for xircon rock side.

[lapis crane]

idk howmany

[nova lodge]

will login in a bit~

[floral pollen]

ive directly connected my cuprium sewage to my crucibles
so like two setups of 2 refineries -> into conduit -> split to effluent & xircon
i really dont know rn if it works haven't/cant open my game yet

[nova lodge]

-> 3 to deal with offline sewage overflow annoyance.

[floral pollen]

in the end my xircon sewage is being treated

so 2 yeah

we really can't do the battery splitting tech for fluids right?

[wispy grove]

wdym

[nova lodge]

pretty sure you can....but fluids flow way faster for pipes though....@ 2 unit per second.

you are gonna need a whole lot more splitters and convergers that i think its not gonna be a good idea =.=

oh wait, that's just volume, i think it should still be possible

just annoying.

[wispy grove]

hey uhh wanna try using my priority flow? only try it to 1 battery crucible tho so that u can compare it to your other current battery factory

yeah

u wont regret it i promise yah

if it works, it works u know

i think we should change the name of my flow design

[nova lodge]

yep, working smoothly thus far~~~

[wispy grove]

oh btw what the site where you can simulate the factory?

[obtuse raven]

Every time I go offline I put some extra sewage into the crucible that is autofed with the sewage from xircon production just in case anything goes wrong, but when I come back I find it empty but the recycling cycle is running perfectly which doesn't make any logical sense

[nova lodge]

only thing that is most noticeable is the tax on my cuprium part....(and extremely slowly for my bottle and maybe xiranite)

[obtuse raven]

Oh I see

[wispy grove]

yeah if your only source of sewage comes from xircon, your full stack of sewage will eventually goes down because you lack sewage that comes from the xircon crucible(blame taxes) to refill the crucible. more like you use more than you gain

[obtuse raven]

So I need to always have some sort of direct connection with the cuprium sewage to prevent that from happening?

[wispy grove]

you can but its the opposite will happen

instead of lacking, youre overflowing with sewage

[nova lodge]

what i am doing atm for my sewage.

fluid tank still sleepy there while conduit for xircon processing is still full, all is well ;3

[obtuse raven]

I think that I will just try to use all the 4 sewage from cuprium and clean the sewage I get from xircon

[wispy grove]

yeah its because your conduit act as afluid tank

[nova lodge]

yep, and also another fluid tank as a monitoring device :3.
never will have sewage clog issue

[wispy grove]

this is why swastika flow needs to be implemented

[obtuse raven]

All this just because I want to see a perfect horizontal line...

[wispy grove]

its not priority flow anymore. priority flow only works when theres sewage overflow. but swastika flow doesnt have any build up.

sigh i need a better name for this

[obtuse raven]

... Ok, looks like I will just have to wait for bugfix🫠

[nova lodge]

my wulling bomb stonks is coming along nicely :3
will let it auto run untill i felt like making jinciao solution adjustments later ;3

[wispy grove]

i saw someone using a site to simulate the factory

can someone give the link?

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

time to make screenshots again

[shut rover]

Hows the crucible looking

[nova lodge]

producing non-stop, but yeah, the sewage cycle does slow down a bit for the backfeed loop. (offline slow down issue)
doesn't stop it comepletely though.
xircon production still ongoing.

( i am pretty sure the sewage in my final crucible tank should be near full at the start, so my sewage got taxed by the wulling IRS too ;v)

[serene lodge]

Guys is there a way to make another copy of set up?

U know like clash of clan

This kinda thing

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-arise-mulan-gif-10545483

i made it

[cedar phoenix]

you can make blueprints, but not for the entire main AIC in one go

[wispy grove]

Loop+nonloop sewage flow its not swastika flow anymore(i suck at naming things )

[marble yarrow]

https://enka.network/endfield/aic/

[wispy grove]

My swastika design is just fits in my factory set up thats all

[wispy grove]

But this is what i wanna show

[serene lodge]

Guys how can i make water of as default

I dont wann turn off one by one

[coral orchid]

I think water treatment unit supposed to make any liquid into water as byproduct....
Somewhat the sim is quite weird that Liquid is gone

[wispy grove]

if that happens and no taxes happening we gonna make a perpetual factory

water to sewage to effluent to sewage to water again

or water to sewage to inert to water

[nova lodge]

water loop tax

[jolly lantern]

hello

i neede a little help

[rain plaza]

so for the new water drills how do i get water to them?

with a fluid pump?

[jolly lantern]

Conduit

[nova lodge]

yep, pump and conduit (as needed)

[rain plaza]

yes then it says unconnected

[jolly lantern]

I have been stuck on the Main Quest and i just finished Killing Ruan Yi today and it looks like i gotta built my base now.

I am at regional dev 3 in the wuling region. i havent started building my base yet !

Do yall have any beginner codes for ASIA

[rain plaza]

what to i connect it to

[jolly lantern]

..did you not follow the tutorial ?

[nova lodge]

there is 2 parts, inlet and outlet.
conduits function kind of like relay tower.

[jolly lantern]

Exactly this

[rain plaza]

im starting it n9ow

[nova lodge]

but yeah, please do the simulation, its explained there. only got 3 anyway.

[nova lodge]

not enuff oros :v

[jolly lantern]

@nova lodge

help me out with some newbie codes man

[rain plaza]

so i still need to drag power

[nova lodge]

i made all of mine from scratch and designed them to be kinda modular for each items production.
give me a moment to login 1st.

[jolly lantern]

ok

[frail trail]

Use kyostinv's 1.1 wuling base

[nova lodge]

only need power for pumps.

[jolly lantern]

THANK YOU !

[nova lodge]

kyo's is one of them.

anyway, research hydro drills asap and start mining dem cuprium.

[rain plaza]

is there a universal placement for the pump?

[nova lodge]

1 pump = 3 hydro mining drill.

[frail trail]

• 3 high purity node

1 pump can provide for 6 low purity nodes

[coral orchid]

Will we get Liquid Originium formula soon?

[nova lodge]

yeah, but currently, no such nodes mix yet.
might also need to account for offline transfer delay for whatever gosh darn reason....so might need to stick with 1 pump for 5 low purity nodes =.=

[coral orchid]

1 Pump = 1/s pumping water or 60/mins Liquid H2O
Low Purity = 10/mins Water needed
High Purity = 20/mins Water needed

How to count? use Math

[frail trail]

You could use it for 6 low purity nodes in 2 different deposits

[coral orchid]

Btw, maximum flow in Pipe are 2/s
So you can use 2 Pumps together into 1 big pipe, and then separate it later

If you wanna experiment with 3/s flow, it's up to you, but it might not ended well

Supply can go with 3/s rate but pipe 2/s
So weird

[jolly lantern]

wait i cant cuz... Its still too high level for me since im only at development 3

in wuling

[atomic fiber]

I'm giving up.

fk this offline bug bs

[wispy grove]

why?

[coral orchid]

LOL

I guess you need this

[wispy grove]

ur mad about the sewage or the fluctuations?

[atomic fiber]

can't find an applicable solution for crucible tax bug

[wispy grove]

here

concept

[atomic fiber]

what does that even do different?

[wispy grove]

less sewage from xircon cancels out the sewage build up from refineries

the fluctuations? nah forget that. u cant stop taxes, just use that to ur advantage

[atomic fiber]

that aren't fixing the crucible tax

crucible tax 3 things.
Xiranite, Ferrium, and water

[atomic fiber]

yeah... this 😭

[wispy grove]

oh w8 use LC battery bp for now

[wispy grove]

bro accept that we are getting taxed bro its inevitable

[atomic fiber]

tax evasion setup when?

[nova lodge]

all hail viseroy zhuang.
wulling must grow

[hushed blaze]

What tax-

[viscid plover]

i think you put a splitter instead of converger by mistake there

[wispy grove]

oh ur right

fu

[wispy grove]

thank u for reading

[hushed blaze]

Who named several people-
Nvm.

[latent gull]

Guys how many grinding unit 1 shredder unit can run

[atomic fiber]

each time multiple items pass thought the crucible, the crucible take some of that item (make them vanish) on offline.

This is called offline crucible tax bug

[nova lodge]

what shredder? sandleaf? then 3.

[coral orchid]

Sewage -> take 4 from Yazhen's Syringe scheme
Plus, add 2+ from the Loop (Xircon byproduct)
Total 6+

Dispense -> Use 2-4 to dispense the excess
With the method that you told me before

Since Xircon bug is quite hassle, you need to create 3 Xircon minimum (90/mins yield)

Also means you need 1 more of Xiranite Eff as stabilizer, and 1 more Xiranite Liquid, which is hurting Xiranite production a little bit

Also means you need another dispense for the excess Xiranite eff and Inert Xiranite Eff

[hushed blaze]

Is it confirmed bug? I didn't see it

[latent gull]

3 grinders?

[nova lodge]

yes

[jolly lantern]

im in wuling and i have this much from Valley IV, Why do i need LC batteries ?

[coral orchid]

With that, you need to overflow Xircon in the depot

while outputing directly with depot

[wispy grove]

my bad its LC WULING BATTERIES

[coral orchid]

into 3/2 format

[nova lodge]

LC batteries for sales.
or you can directly jump to SC battery.
both LC wulling and SC wulling are more power intensive.

[wispy grove]

for stock bills

[jolly lantern]

ok the wuling ones got it

[coral orchid]

Side effect.....
You get a backlash alot

[hushed blaze]

Another reason why i use fluid tank each time i use crucibles

[coral orchid]

especially power efficiency

[atomic fiber]

I'm already doing the overflowing xircon setup.

but not to the depot, i put the xircon directly into the packaging unit, as such the xircon always capped.

the problem is now my xiranite and Ferrium slowly decreasing because of the crucible tax.

[coral orchid]

Yes, that's the side effect

[atomic fiber]

[coral orchid]

Or

we can make it more efficient

[jolly lantern]

i overdid so much my Valley IV facilities are all down except the mining shitck which is still farming mats to keep it maxed out under use

[coral orchid]

by using 1 Crucible as buffer

[wispy grove]

u will lose more xiranite if more crucibles are involved tho

[coral orchid]

or

Combine into 1 crucible

which I hate

LOL

[atomic fiber]

i don't think we can do tax evasion with that

need a way to do tax evasion

[coral orchid]

atm, I can't remake my Sub AIC base
Because got 288/288 limit

I can't deploy more facilities there

insane

[wispy grove]

oh i have a way

play 24/7

[atomic fiber]

[jolly lantern]

atleast yall started building i havent started building jacksht on my wuling

[coral orchid]

LOL

F

[wispy grove]

u wont get taxed if you do that

[atomic fiber]

fkking tax 😭

[nova lodge]

don't you have xiranite production up?
or its totally empty O.O?

[jolly lantern]

Empty on both the sub and main

yet i have done half the entire main quest only the dam is remaining

[frail trail]

Could use his 1.0 version instead until you get to development level 7

[rain plaza]

Can multiple pumps connect to one inlet

[wispy grove]

dont worry bro, atleast u dont have to suffer from multiple experiments just to do factory maintenance 😭

[frail trail]

Whoops

[coral orchid]

yes

[jolly lantern]

yeah seems like it

[nova lodge]

yeah, as the great ore had stated it, use 1.0 instead.
though.
i recommend keeping xiranite productions self looped though.

[jolly lantern]

are there self looped blueprints in the game by the official stuff ?

[wispy grove]

nah

[nova lodge]

definitely no official ones, i think there might be some under blueprint section

[wispy grove]

meta blue prints

[nova lodge]

give me a moment to log in for the 2nd time ;v

[wispy grove]

2 ways to use sewage, loop and non loop

im the 3rd way swastika flow

[jolly lantern]

ngl all this water stuff is harder than the electric ones

[fathom yacht]

Two of my water pumps keep showing clogged, but my forge can't get enough water... what on earth am I missing 😄

[jolly lantern]

Coding typa sht

[hushed blaze]

Situation like this?

[viscid plover]

they really should add more stuff to V4 shop, nothing worthwhile to purchase
good thing i had the foresight to stock up elastic goods since i can see we will eventually reach this point

[fathom yacht]

Exactly

[hushed blaze]

[wispy grove]

bro why u have 4 lines?

[wispy grove]

show the 2d view

[hushed blaze]

So i can make more xiranite-
I know 2 is enough but it is never enough

[nova lodge]

just logged in, i do have some blueprint saved, not sure if it help much.

asia server.

Xiranite: EFO01a6517e003A1ou5e.
self looped
Xircon: EFO019aE0AU66Ie45uI2.
self looped for sewage

[wispy grove]

bro thats not how it works? you can only use 2 per per xiranite

youre only clogging ur forge

unless

theres something im not seeing

[hushed blaze]

Don't tell me only 1 pump is accessed to 2 or 3 facilities