aic-factory

[normal prawn]

not only zipline, all facilities outside aic included (inlet, outlet etc)

[wispy grove]

when depot bus becomes a protection wall instead

[tribal garnet]

brooo

[small creek]

because necessity drives innovation

[viscid plover]

7 cough*

[small creek]

if no limit then no necessity

[tribal garnet]

theres also a limit on pipe splitters too tho

[small creek]

i know

its counted as a facility

[tribal garnet]

as for my map its so optimized with ziplines and such

i mean theres loose pylons or relay but

wtf

[small creek]

idk what to tell u man

i even have my ecofarm

[tribal garnet]

i mean look

[unkempt estuary]

my dumbass gone on and finished all the spare xiranites

cuz I forgor to put limits on gear produce

[small creek]

sending these for comparison

not full, but the parts of yours that i think can use some improvement

[tribal garnet]

hmm

[tall thunder]

[unkempt estuary]

damn, bro finished collecting everything

[tribal garnet]

i mean ye i can cut off that zipline route

and i also have these but its for my aic

[small creek]

heres mine

dont need a conduit for the ferrium

theres water on top

[dark furnace]

Regarding the sewage clog issue, I’ve observed that neither operating without belts nor using a water tank helps. But I did notice something about the xiranite liquid: when there is enough xiranite liquid to support Xiranite effluent production, the sewage actually decreases. But if the xiranite liquid in the first crucible kept at 0, the second crucible begins to accumulate sewage.

Right now I’m adding more Xiranite than necessary for first crucible in Set 2 to see if that reduces the sewage in the second crucible.

[tribal garnet]

wait fR?

[small creek]

also stop using conduits for everything in your main pac lol

use the pipes when possible

[tall thunder]

I think I need more water

[small creek]

more conduit = more fac

[ruby sorrel]

crucibles suck it's dying from the liquid xiranite and just cascade of failures from there

[dark furnace]

I didn't record the xiranite and xiranite liquid for set 1 in #1 and #2 data so I left them empty

[tall thunder]

Can I have 3 mines per pump?

[tribal garnet]

HMM

alr fine

[bright nimbus]

1 pump support 3 high purity or 6 low purity. So high purity =2x low purity =x

[tall thunder]

[bright nimbus]

With 2 pumps, you should have 1.5x water leftover you can send to originium that’s close by which need exactly 1.5x

[tall thunder]

I need to remove some Ziplines

[wispy grove]

how do you manage to reach 350 bro

[dark furnace]

a lot of ziplines and hybro minings probably

[young stag]

ziplines i guess

[dark furnace]

also eco farm

[storm garnet]

i reached 350 easily with less than 40 ziplines

[wispy grove]

oh i dont have ecofarm

im lazy

[dark furnace]

eco farm is taking a lot of capacity ngl

[bright nimbus]

I’m guessing all facilities at main pac

[wispy grove]

i already have enough sanity for the factory

[bright nimbus]

Oh nvm

[dark furnace]

AIC machines don't count into capacity

[wispy grove]

whut

[dark furnace]

AIC has its own capacity

[storm garnet]

The 350 cap doesn't go up inside the aic.

But the 512 does.

[dark furnace]

512 is so little fr

[bright nimbus]

Yea fr

[dark furnace]

especially when you add a lot of spliter/converger

[storm garnet]

Yea, v4 hub is 758 or something

Still low

[ruby sorrel]

imagine being able to afford convergers

[dark furnace]

so I don't see why people pack all their things in main AIC and leave outpost empty

[ornate sorrel]

the 512 limit is so stupid

[ruby sorrel]

had to abandon all my convergers

[ornate sorrel]

I wish, REALLY WISH

that the devs just

TOLD US ABOUT THIS LIMIT

[storm garnet]

My outpost has some things and i still reached 512 lol

[ornate sorrel]

THIS INFORMATION JUST DOESN'T EXIST UNTIL YOU HIT LIMIT

[storm garnet]

My outpost has 2 xiranite lines and all dense originium

[bright nimbus]

Yeah found out when I was drawing with convergers 🥀

[ornate sorrel]

I only found out just now

after i Uh

[dark furnace]

does bridge count into total capacity btw i forgot

[ornate sorrel]

tried putting everything on my first base

i managed to dodge it until i tried putting Component makers

still managed to somehow squeeze it though

tho Xiranite comp at half speed, but whatever

[bright nimbus]

I think it did

[ruby sorrel]

belt logistics all count, pipe doesn't seem to

[dark furnace]

then it's so funny when some people add unnecessary bridges for corner belts

[storm garnet]

It does, and each belt segment too.

[dark furnace]

wait you mean like one block of belt counts as one capacity?

[storm garnet]

No, it can be as long as you want.

[bright nimbus]

It’s to make it neat ok? Lmao

[tribal crescent]

Does the AIC area in the hub/wuling city share protocol space with the overworld

[dark furnace]

oh so one belt counts as one

[storm garnet]

But the segment counts as 1 facility

[tribal garnet]

does putting conduit inside aic counts on the facilities? @small creek @storm garnet

[storm garnet]

Yes

[tribal garnet]

inside

[sick basin]

It counts towards protocol limit in that case

[tribal garnet]

aic

[sick basin]

Oh inside

[storm garnet]

That's why you want pipes if possible

[tribal garnet]

inside aic

[sick basin]

Yes

[storm garnet]

Pipes have different limit

[tribal garnet]

srsly?

wtf is thisss

cuz i cant reach my stuff

[sick basin]

Everything thats inside aic will count towards aic facility limit

[dark furnace]

iirc pipe doesn't have limit but only visually

[sick basin]

Whats outside will instead count towards protocol capacity

[storm garnet]

512 limit doesn't care if inside or outside

[tribal garnet]

nvm u can put pipes on the depot bus

wtf

[storm garnet]

Just same zone

[tribal crescent]

Sub bases have different zones innit

[dark furnace]

some CN guy tried to cover wuling with pipes and the visual ended with 10km, despite still functional

[tribal crescent]

Each with their own limit

[dark furnace]

like, the pipe works, but you can't see it

[tribal garnet]

u can use pipesss on the depot buss

[storm garnet]

Pipes have limit too

[dark furnace]

it's pretty hard to reach their segment limit ngl

[storm garnet]

It's harder to reach it, but works the same way with pipe segments and splitters

[dark furnace]

unless you place like hundreads of logistics

[upper fiber]

just need pipe splitter or bridge

[dark furnace]

reminds me of the guy who didn't know pipe existed so they connected the segment with logistics only

[storm garnet]

If you put a lot of tanks, each connection in between counts for pipe limit

[cunning obsidian]

from experience belts have a limit

[wispy grove]

still pumps 2 units/1 sec

[cunning obsidian]

i imagine pipes would as well

[ornate sorrel]

wait a min

i just realized something I can do in Valley

time to

hoard those xiranite component mats

[tribal crescent]

No water facilities work

P sure

[tribal garnet]

ive done it

jeez

[tribal crescent]

A shame tbh

[ornate sorrel]

the green block or whatever

[tribal crescent]

Depot buses?

[ornate sorrel]

doesnt need water

[tribal crescent]

They don't work either

It's disabled in facility screen

Iirc

[tall thunder]

w8!

[tribal crescent]

Too high tech

[tall thunder]

What if u transfer water bottles

[tribal crescent]

Uh

Nuthing

What u do

Pour water?

[ornate sorrel]

it works

awesome

i'm just gonna hoard these

[tribal crescent]

So that's what you mean

[tall thunder]

Put them in Hydro Mines

[sick basin]

Hoarding for nothing

[tribal crescent]

Tho

I'm pretty sure wuling doesn't have transfer

Right

[tribal crescent]

Can you even place

Do tell

[bright nimbus]

Pretty sure. Couldn’t transfer anything to vally4

[tribal crescent]

Well you can transfer those comps

From v4

But like why would you not tf ferrium

[bright nimbus]

Can manual transfer..

[upper fiber]

because transferring ferrium part

[tribal crescent]

Crazy tuff

[tall thunder]

[tribal crescent]

Manual in the big 2026

[tall thunder]

Actually I'll just transfer batteries when its available

[bright nimbus]

People did with batteries lmao

[tribal crescent]

Ew

[storm garnet]

transferring batteries is not worth it

dense originium is the best thing to transfer if you want batteries

[bright nimbus]

Not from v4 to wuling but opposite

[storm garnet]

but you get so few batteries from it anyways

[tribal crescent]

Wtf

That's even worse

😭

Why

[bright nimbus]

To sell as soon as 1.1 hits bc their depot is full

[tribal crescent]

Oh

[bright nimbus]

It’s minmaxing

[tribal crescent]

Ohhhhh

Maybe i should do that too

[bright nimbus]

Yall too quick to judge lmao

[tribal crescent]

For new areas

Ok but you should not talk in parts

😡

I blame YOU

[bright nimbus]

I was still typing

Lmao my bad

[tribal crescent]

Start typing FASTER

😡 😡

[bright nimbus]

Shorry

[ornate sorrel]

im just gonna transfer Origocrust once i hoard these so that the next time i make Xiranite Component i just need to use up my Origocrust stash

[tall thunder]

T2 Wuling battery is already 3200 power

[ornate sorrel]

this is gonna be awesome

[tribal crescent]

What did they do to make xiranite again

[upper fiber]

need speculation what you can sell on new outpost lv1

[tribal crescent]

Lorewise

Mix originium with sth?

[tall thunder]

They made it from the lab

Endmin just cool the system down

[tribal crescent]

Endmin came along and convert carbon to xiranite

Truly crazy tuff

[tall thunder]

We just sprayed water on their CPU

[tribal crescent]

Tianshis in shambles

[tall thunder]

They had to invent it then give the Blueprint for the Factory to Endfield

Thats why its limited

[tribal garnet]

DOES this work?\

[storm garnet]

less than 1 min for the results of the offline test...

[tribal garnet]

i mean the sewage liquid

[storm garnet]

nvm, 10:38 is up

[open wind]

is protocol limit only applied to outside AiC area?

[tribal garnet]

yo etrexum can you inf loop sewage water

[tribal crescent]

We use sewage to make things that secrete sewage so we lead sewage back to the sewage to make the things that secrete sewage

[tribal garnet]

ye

[open wind]

you lose half of what you start with

[tribal garnet]

does it work?

[tribal garnet]

but the prods still the same right

[tribal crescent]

For the hub and wuling city aka open base i think they share

With the entire zone

For subs hm

[bright nimbus]

I’ve seen people doing it so yeah

[storm garnet]

@atomic fiber I SHOULD HAVE MADE BOTTLES, THE 5 STASHES FILLED UP

[tall thunder]

Get Sewage from Refining Unit when ur making Syringes or Tea

[tribal crescent]

Think they have separate zones

[tribal garnet]

does it deplete?

[tall thunder]

[tribal crescent]

Within the area

Can always go in to chekc

[open wind]

not really. you still need to somehow feed battery line with external sewage. probably a cuprium rod line?

[tribal crescent]

Maybe i should

[storm garnet]

i should have calculated it if the parts would fill them...

[tribal garnet]

i see

alr thanks

[tribal crescent]

For batt making

[open wind]

but most likely you will be using syringe A line to provide all the sewage you need

[bright nimbus]

It shouldn’t bc you’re running half with sewage

[tribal crescent]

Pretty sure you do need 1 line of sewage to supply

[open wind]

shit starts to become shitty once you do a non round number of assembly line

[tall thunder]

Im running out of Cuprium

[tribal crescent]

It's just 6 line

Innit

Cuprium

[open wind]

4 line cuprium

[ruby sorrel]

loopback sewage too unreliable when every crucible runs slower than the last

[open wind]

120/m

[tribal crescent]

Damn

I fail maffs

[open wind]

you cant even make a rounded number of syringe A

[bright nimbus]

Oops I was wrong thought he had another sewage line

[open wind]

thats why math is fucked and i need to figure something out to supply sewage without clogging anything

[tribal crescent]

Syringe A is still not beating jincao solution innit

[open wind]

wym

[tribal crescent]

Health wise

[open wind]

syringe C is better than jincao A

[tribal crescent]

You know

[open wind]

syringe A is like 2400 health. jincao A is like 1600?

[tribal crescent]

No no

[open wind]

i forgor

[tribal crescent]

Jincao solution

[storm garnet]

anyways, i did have xiranite input with 2 belts, so it was an invalid test in any case

[tribal crescent]

The things you craft

[open wind]

oh solution

you guys make those?

[tribal crescent]

Yeah

Endfield runs out of things to do very fasst

[sick basin]

Jank 6/min, 3/min, 1.5/min, or 0.75/min cuprium comp
Wtf bruh

[tribal crescent]

Ngl

[bright nimbus]

I just use special jincao and yazhen powders bc they were enough

[sick basin]

Controled with 3 click total

[open wind]

aint a consumable

[tall thunder]

[tribal crescent]

Uh

Go in crafting

Check fluffed jincao

For the brown liquid

[tribal crescent]

Ohhh

Infusion

Lame ass name

Smh

[open wind]

20% hp alone is probably like 1200 hp on laevatain

so 2800 hp

[tribal crescent]

Nyooo

Syringe A might actually be better

As in

Easier to make

[tall thunder]

I just sell them mostly

[tribal crescent]

And heal about the same

Zzz

[bright nimbus]

But those you can get from farming

[open wind]

just slightly better

[bright nimbus]

Then u can trade all syringe A

[open wind]

well it depends

[tribal crescent]

Tragic

[open wind]

i remember seeing some cursed ember builds

[tribal crescent]

What was all of that crafting for

I blame HG

[bright zodiac]

catcher solo trimmed rhodagn is more ridiculous

[tall thunder]

Can you solo with Antal

[storm garnet]

for some time i had the idea of having all 6 sewage inputs go to the same loop and have 2 exits to water treatments somewhere while also having 4 exits to make effluent

[tall thunder]

[storm garnet]

but it would require a lot of convergers and splitters

[open wind]

not really. its the bare minimum expected from the strongest operator in the game

[storm garnet]

and offline bug will destroy that

also, 6 inputs means you have to be careful so you don't fill the pipe too much, since it can only handle 4 inputs at a time

ideally, you get 3 inputs, put 2 treatments, and get another 3 inputs or so, maybe get the last input after at least 1 output

[tall thunder]

How bout you loop a pipe with Fluid Tanks

[open wind]

what was the general consensuss on offline bug mechanic?

[bronze vector]

hp build?

[open wind]

30k hp yes

[storm garnet]

convergers bad, control ports really bad, belts should be longer than 1 tile

[bronze vector]

i have one

but 25k

for now

[wispy grove]

every things is bad

[bronze vector]

in etchspace she can goes up to 30k+ bcs the buffs

[wispy grove]

looks like wuling cannot be left alone the moment where the new map comes if they found a way to stop the clogging

unike v4 where everything is automatic

[tribal crescent]

Offline map bug?

Pray tell

What is it

[tall thunder]

Just add more tanks.

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-hand-dog-gif-11300778

[tall thunder]

I got 12 tanks and 6 are already full

[bronze vector]

more tanks

[tall thunder]

Oh also the Conduit can hold 500 too

[wispy grove]

make it 20 tanks

[tall thunder]

I think I need more Crucible

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1479844508463009966/tt_end260307.gif

[hidden temple]

if you pipe water through a crucible to supply water for another crucible, does theoretical register that as 2x water usage

[tall thunder]

This one takes forever to give items

[tribal garnet]

optimized it got rid of those conduits and such and hooked up sewage and now im at 4.08k energy

[tribal crescent]

Btw conduits take 0 pwr

[storm garnet]

@atomic fiber started the second test now, i put 10 stashes for bottles and used a blueprint to put all the tanks at the same time

also the 1 tile xiranite belt

[wispy grove]

🤔

[storm garnet]

conduits are just tanks that connect to another conduit wirelessly

[tall thunder]

w8 a min

[tribal crescent]

Bringing water uphill without power

Physicists would kill for this

[tall thunder]

Is belt with bottles faster than pipes?

[tribal garnet]

ye but that aint the problem

the problem is the limiter

ask @storm garnet how i got trapped on it

[storm garnet]

personally, i connected the sewage output from xircon to water treatments so they don't clog offline

still clog though

but the clog is on the cuprium lines only

[analog elbow]

I do have 1 tank at the start. 5 sprinklers each pylon so 10 sprinkler 2 pylons

[tall thunder]

Connect Water Treatments with Tanks

[storm garnet]

they are not connected btw, i have each cuprium go to a reactor independently

if i remade the factory, i would connect them probably

[tall thunder]

Hopefully this thing wont clogg all of them when I come back from work

[storm garnet]

i don't use a tank for the farm, sprinklers have enough capacity

[normal prawn]

its hard to imagine that i easily reach the limit of 350 protocol capacity with this placement lol

i feel that if i count it all it wont even reach 200 lmao

[tall thunder]

How bout the ones outside ur AIC

[storm garnet]

some buildings have more than 1 capacity

like ziplines

[analog elbow]

Zip counts as 3

[storm garnet]

basically, most buildings have more than 1 except the relays and pylons

[tall thunder]

Zip Towers

[storm garnet]

if you put a zipline, you are basically using 4 capacity

[normal prawn]

so zipline only counts more than 1?

[storm garnet]

2 capacity is the average for other buildings

without pylons

[tall thunder]

How bout Fuel pumps?

[storm garnet]

pumps are 2 i think, cant tell for sure atm

[normal prawn]

"water" pumps counts as one iirc

[storm garnet]

the game is weirdly inconsistent, so i always forget

[tall thunder]

I need to remove some of the Easy Stash I have

[storm garnet]

yea, does too are not worth the capacity

i only use them on farms

if i want one anywhere else, i just build it right there on the moment then put it back on the bag

[tall thunder]

I got Ziplines for rare items locations

[timber phoenix]

For the people dumb like me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463293215301042236/1483784222387998841/image.png?ex=69bbd93d&is=69ba87bd&hm=1757991d93c8c3ff91c6722a4deec158df17d087a75ee8f567a9cc032826ba7a&

Make sure this doesn't say stockpile but Metastorage

[pulsar steeple]

you've been transfering Stockpile rather than Metastorage for how long?

[kindred owl]

Btw which river is the 80k river inside wuling

[coral orchid]

What is 512/512?

[storm garnet]

the limit of buildings in the wuling city zone

in and out of the aic

pipes are separate

[coral orchid]

Included AIC Core?

[pulsar steeple]

yes

In and out

[tribal garnet]

mfs put so many limitations

[storm garnet]

?

[coral orchid]

Probably because of Unity Engine limitation?

They will crash if more than 512?

[tall thunder]

Just like real life but not worse

[storm garnet]

the only big but not unlimited place for fluids in wuling is the courtyard with 40k

[kindred owl]

Oh thanks!

Where’s courtyard

[storm garnet]

the limit is both for the client and for the server tbh

[coral orchid]

and then we make it like this?

[storm garnet]

southeast

[pulsar steeple]

Wuling southeastern Tele-protocol

[tall thunder]

I'll dump red liquid when we get one

[coral orchid]

Rather than dumping Xiranite
We can use Inert Xiranite there

[coral orchid]

I want something like liquid blending

Red, Yellow, Green, and Blue

[pure egret]

i ran out. do i need a third sky forge?

[storm garnet]

and a 4th

[tribal garnet]

GUYS i figured it out i still had xerenite pylons lol on my mines

[pure egret]

nowhere to put it😓

[tribal garnet]

xiranite*

[storm garnet]

gz, you save 10 protocol

[sick basin]

U have more than enough space

[tribal garnet]

yey now i have hydro mined all my ores on wuling

[storm garnet]

but did you use 15 pumps or less for it

[tawny bear]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1483787804810022973 chat is the presentation good?

[pure egret]

no space in sub

would need to take down something here

[storm garnet]

i see a lot of green, that's not acceptable

[fluid fog]

HORAY, so smooth when offline

[upper fiber]

what about xircon

[storm garnet]

if sc is 12/min, xircon is maxed

[upper fiber]

i mean the graph report,

[ruby sorrel]

how'd you smooth it out

[storm garnet]

yes, 60/min stable if 12/min sc

same thing

[fluid fog]

kekw, honestly Am not sure yet, still put here when I do.

[sick basin]

Cuz you have so much wasted space🥹

[storm garnet]

well, he has some in depot

[fluid fog]

but this will look for now.

[ruby sorrel]

tbh I think my factory ran better before I used more depot

[fluid fog]

s

[vast iron]

The amount of wasted facilities is vaporizing me

[fluid fog]

AHAHAHAHAHA

[vast iron]

OH MY BELT CROSSINGS

[fluid fog]

I don't mind for now,

[vast iron]

Its a bad habit ngl

[ruby sorrel]

nice aesthetic

[vast iron]

Youll run out eventually

Of belts

[fluid fog]

ahahaha will see, Am pushing to the limit the system anyway.

[vast iron]

Theres a hard cap

[fluid fog]

isn't that 256

[vast iron]

Depends on the area

[pure egret]

i dont want to have to redo the whole thing😭

[fluid fog]

ah okay, I think wuling is big enough

[crimson inlet]

I curse thee, 23 current wuling stock on the stockade

[coral orchid]

This is quite messed o.o

[crimson inlet]

because nothing is stocked in the stockade

[atomic fiber]

ok ping me if it succeeded

[storm garnet]

10 mins to check the second test

well, 15 almost

[lapis crane]

trying to test my base but turn out i need to drain every xiranite

[broken flare]

What to unlock first?

[lapis crane]

everything expect turrets

[broken flare]

What is the priority?

[storm garnet]

everything, just go around the world to get the indexes first

and to put mining rigs

[lapis crane]

water rig much better energy wise

[storm garnet]

well, yea, i guess you could try to unlock those first

and conduits maybe so it helps with it

[broken flare]

Also, is there an AIC for Qingbo? And how to get it?

[sick basin]

No

[storm garnet]

qinbo doesn't have one

[broken flare]

Expected

Big ass AIC in that area

[wispy grove]

all i can say is xiranite first then resourcing then logistics

[hushed blaze]

Where would it be placed tho if added aic in qingbo?

[wispy grove]

complete AIC 1 first, you can do combat upgrade as the last option

[steel shell]

no sub pac in qingbo

[atomic fiber]

no such things

[storm garnet]

4th tank of each had 365 sewage and 375 liquid xiranite. cuprium refiner had 46 cuprium, and the reactor had 42 xiranite

[broken flare]

Prolly here

But offtopic

[wispy grove]

what do you do to properly screenshot the AIC?

does bulk action good enough to clear the screen?

[storm garnet]

cuprium had 46 stable, but xiranite was sometimes 42 and sometimes 43

but that's normal for reactors

[atomic fiber]

hmm... there is actually more xiranite?

that is like 6 more xiranite.

[hushed blaze]

Err i don't think that zone is flat though...

But anyway.

[atomic fiber]

i guess people saying reactor being slow is actually false? since reactor turn out here have same speed as refiner or maybe faster than refiner

[storm garnet]

these were the setups, the yanzhen powder unloader was turned off

[river badge]

I made a pretty modular, future-proof (maybe) layout:

• 3 SC battery lines (18/min)
• 2 Yazhen syringe A lines (12/min)
  Requirements:
• 6 sky forges (we have 4 now)
• 720 originium ore (480 now)
• 90 ferrium ore
• 240 cuprium ore (120 now)
  It also requires 3 sandleaf and 1 yazhen plant lines that I couldn't fit unfortunately, so they're in the other base.

[tawny bear]

forge capacity

[storm garnet]

oops, i left the xircon line without any liquid xiranite and now it's full of sewage

[atomic fiber]

thx btw 👍

[broken flare]

Which one is that?

[tawny bear]

rightmost one

[broken flare]

My gut's telling it's this

O

[tawny bear]

excuse me i'm terrible with directions =3=

[broken flare]

O

[tawny bear]

yea that one

[storm garnet]

np, it was didactic

[tawny bear]

chat what do we think of all this space

[wheat forum]

It's more likely to producing HC batteries in the future btw. Plus, Xircon may have a further procession for that.

[glacial summit]

how to increase originium ore yield to 420/min in wuling? i got max 360/min

[solid quiver]

hydro mining rig is crazy I just saved 80 power

[solid quiver]

increase regional development lvl

and max is 480 at lvl 8

[glacial summit]

ah i see, i'm currently level 7

[river badge]

hmm yeah good points 😅

[coral orchid]

🤔

[fluid igloo]

any bottle/liquid im missing?

[solid quiver]

crazy

[vast iron]

fun.

[fluid igloo]

nobody answering me T.T

[fluid igloo]

ig thats all huh

7 liquid and 5 bottles

[stoic coyote]

Bro has all the bottles

[low fern]

why tf did they give you a field this big if you can't use all of it

[pulsar willow]

how much can you place?

I am at 16 now

didn't try to place more

[low fern]

20 plots total

[stoic coyote]

Maybe if you feedback it will add more in the next update

[pulsar willow]

oh, so I'm almost at the limit!

[stoic coyote]

[low fern]

how TF am i gonna play farmville now

i literally have nothing else to do while i wait for the next banner\

[pulsar willow]

cleaning those stupid conveyor bridges was a good idea

[low fern]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ohio-rage-angry-anger-gif-7778286460514582096

[fluid igloo]

so u can make different sizes and shapes

[tawny bear]

u can put another 16 in valley IV

[storm garnet]

cant put wuling plants there though

[tawny bear]

that's stinky =3=

[storm garnet]

well, maybe you can if you water them yourself

every 4 hours

but it's probably limited even to plant it

[lapis crane]

how to test my anti clog base when 10k xiranite still in storage

[storm garnet]

manual transfer to v4

or put it in stashes

[lapis crane]

just trying to

[worn creek]

Is this good enough?

A 17x21 Xircon Factory

[iron stratus]

you dont need to anti clog xiranite

[iron stratus]

i smell 16x19 potential

[ornate sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1462200012510593066/1483422304204492811/ENDFIELD_SHARE_1773745790.png?ex=69bbd9ad&is=69ba882d&hm=fa1e3bddc82f6e023df6dfe96db38389faef43addce8b4641de017a27a719437&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=912&height=513

use it to make this

[storm garnet]

almost there

[storm garnet]

doing it manually is faster tbh if it's just temporary

[lapis crane]

nah

it pain to bring it back

[storm garnet]

it takes 10 mins to fill 1 stash per unloader

you can just stash the whole thing and the excess goes to depot cause the bag fills up

[lapis crane]

yeah that what i am using depot for

it just a temp storage just for testing if anti clog work against switching component on and off

[coral orchid]

Trying a bit of experiment lol

To make it stable at offline

[crystal onyx]

when building your factory do yall like the valley iv music or wuling music more

[tawny bear]

they call this the smallest xircon factory ever

[storm garnet]

wuling i guess, but i usually play without sound

[proud palm]

people play with sound on!?

[winter ingot]

shock

[crystal onyx]

im shocked people play with sound off

[storm garnet]

imagine hearing the machine sounds for hours

[crystal onyx]

lowk relaxing

[floral heron]

it's fantastic white noise, wdym

[storm garnet]

i play with sound for new content for a while, then i go back to sound off

[crystal onyx]

and the musics louder anyway LOL

[proud palm]

i mean idk, i like listening to my music than machine and characters yapping

[fluid igloo]

https://youtu.be/SYptXHMLqac

[storm garnet]

white noise is constant, machines are not

[crystal onyx]

…if you cant manage your power well

[storm garnet]

i mean, machines do weird inconsistent noises, like real machines in factories

it's not like a fridge

[crystal onyx]

yes dude i love this theme sm

[crystal onyx]

i see, for me anyway it just blends into white noise when im really focused

[solid bane]

What do you think of my xircon/tea production

[fluid igloo]

https://youtu.be/33_Rq0XBQTs
MEANWHILE I CANT FIND THIS ANYWHERE IN-GAME

[crystal onyx]

nice symmetry

very pretty

btw do yall also place your water treatment units outside of the core aic area

[solid bane]

Ikr, i doubled the machinery for jincao and yazhen so i can produce both at the same time

[fluid igloo]

u can be a madman and do this

[crystal onyx]

i domt think you can have that many cuprium belts

[solid bane]

Yeah, both jincao and yazhen is running at half capacity currently

[storm garnet]

every time i see people not making liquid food on liquid xiranite reactors in the year of our lord 1.1, i die a little inside

[crystal onyx]

sad

[fluid igloo]

u basically safe 1 planter, 1 seeder and 1 crucible since they can run on double output

[crystal onyx]

lowk whats the point of making jincao tea anyway

[storm garnet]

died again

[solid bane]

You're right, nice idea!

[crystal onyx]

was thinking about how to implement this and remembered my syringe and jincao drink sections are on opposite sides

[storm garnet]

not pretty but it's energy efficient

0 extra reactors for food

[fluid igloo]

[solid bane]

Hahaha it will be tangled mess for sure

[fluid igloo]

i mean, remove one of the drink section
and expand the remaining one, slightly a little by adding 1 shredder, 1 filling unit and 1 packaging unit

[fleet niche]

I just use conduits

[storm garnet]

pls, i beg you...

[fluid igloo]

well here's my processing site

[fluid igloo]

[small creek]

u can also put all 4 at once and itll mostly work the same

alao hi gaythus

[tawny bear]

if i had 120 more cuprium i'd be making jincao tea by now =`3=

[frozen summit]

Usual pipe behavior

[fluid igloo]

yahallo Lament sisickben

[floral heron]

your yazhen powder is clogging the xira input

[crystal onyx]

oh man i would but i built my factory when i was really focused and now i forgot how i even built that LOL

[storm garnet]

this usually happens if getting them together would go above the length limit

[fluid igloo]

i like erm alternating

[storm garnet]

it's not

[small creek]

tbf it looks pretty dope yea

im just a lazy ass

drop em all in one go

[storm garnet]

it's just that i'm making components, so i don't have full xiranite input

[fluid igloo]

[fluid igloo]

well ur obsession to put food tgt in the same place as making battery
imma bet u work at Coca-Cola right?

[storm garnet]

i work at best efficient factories (tm)

[fluid igloo]

cuz that's the company i know makes toilet cleaning detergent same as coke drinks

[storm garnet]

you are wasting 50 whooping energy if you don't make food with xiranite

[fluid igloo]

™

[rugged island]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[fluid igloo]

here

[scenic orchid]

is there a reason why my seed loop always drop from 50 seeds inside looping to just 1 seed looping after a while?

[fluid igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/cecilia-immergreen-cecilia-immergreen-セシリア-イマーグリーン-gif-16791145845770764976

[storm garnet]

it's 50 energy!

[scenic orchid]

there should be no leakage but its always missing seeds whenever i check after a while

[fluid igloo]

yes ik u run on 3k power only right?

[solid bane]

If you keep moving around the items on the belt will go to your backpack

[storm garnet]

i run 1 sc battery, energy is precious

if you want to use 2 batteries, sure, go crazy with 100 reactors

[fleet niche]

Im at 3.37k tho

[fluid igloo]

Btw u already hydro rig ur ores right?

[storm garnet]

yes

[fluid igloo]

Nice

[crystal onyx]

damn you can put liquid xiranite in the thermal bank?

[fluid igloo]

Truly a daylight saving guy

[scenic orchid]

no i dont touch my base its alr done but whenever i check after a while the seeds are always missing

[fluid igloo]

No no
He meant the Xiranite production crucible is a waste
And shud share it with making food liquid like Jincao and Yazhen

[rugged island]

Shouldn't the pipes saturate?

is this making me less xircon than it should?

[scenic orchid]

like here is where I refilled the seed loop cus it keeps disappearing and hindering my production

[fluid igloo]

Can ss ur setup?

[storm garnet]

wat

[rugged island]

Hoe come I'm only making 30 with 2 crucibles?

[fluid igloo]

No gear making?

[rugged island]

no none this si just for batteries

[crystal onyx]

oh ok i see

[scenic orchid]

these are looping with 1:2 output so I don't see why the seeds inside leaks and drop to 1 sometimes

[rugged island]

also these 2 machines idle every so often even though the sewage pipes should be satured

I'm unsure why

[fluid igloo]

Hmmm

[storm garnet]

reverse order but yes. xiranite is priority and needs it's own reactor, so you always need to use 4 reactors, so might as well use the remaining "half" of each reactor to make food.

[rugged island]

Like they idle for 0.5-1s

[wispy grove]

my aic so spacious

[fluid igloo]

I can see ur bottom one
Ones get clogged and one idling....

[rugged island]

The problem is they are like this

They somehow take slightly too long to get some sewage

[storm garnet]

theoricals are not reliable with reactors cause recipes change all the time

[wispy grove]

did you use sewage looping?

[fluid igloo]

Sewage too slow huh

[storm garnet]

if the reactor is empty, a recipe can disappear

[rugged island]

No to keep things smalelr I just have 4 cuprium sewage line

[fluid igloo]

Ok u have one long sewage pipe supplying all
The tail end will receive less lol

Maybe try split into 2 sewage pipe then supplying 2 by 2?

[small creek]

holy bridges

[rugged island]

but the pipe should saturate and that shouldnt happen

the tail wont "recieve less"

[fluid igloo]

And yet it does

[somber snow]

dont pipes work the same as belts?
they dont just magically transfer liquids faster when u merge them, do they?

[floral heron]

the flow wont saturate fast enough if 2units are already being consumed before it reaches the third, no?

[wispy grove]

ohhh

[tawny bear]

im fairly certain pipes pump 2/s, two of ur cuprium's gonna overflow with sewage!
also pipes can go over xiranite depots just sayin

[wispy grove]

w8 let me explain

[rugged island]

Theres 4 units being passed

[small creek]

well pipes are faster

[floral heron]

the pipes are 2units flow

[rugged island]

They are over the depots

[small creek]

belts are like 0.5 unit only

[floral heron]

the tick is still 1second, the 0.5 calculation is calculator maths

[somber snow]

well yeah, but is it fast enough for 4 pipes being merged like that?

[tawny bear]

oh my bad didn't see the singular pipe =3=

[somber snow]

i dont remember the flow rate

[small creek]

maybe not tbh

[sick basin]

Refineries only make 1 sewage every 2 seconds
With 4 it is perfect 2 sewage a second, yes

[small creek]

i only merge at most 2 pipes

[rugged island]

I'm doing the same with water yet theres no issue

[sick basin]

But convergers are funky

[tawny bear]

solution: turn all our products into fluids for faster transport

[sick basin]

And slow shit down

[rugged island]

thats one 120 per min water pipe split 4 times

[fluid igloo]

Hmm all the belting looks fine
Also u can remove one of the planter from sandleaf and close the loop since u shred 1 sandleaf into one powder
Or keep the 2 planter 1 seeder setup but only 1 set to supply 3 stabilized carbon

[solid bane]

Looks fine to me, couldnt find any other reason other than keep moving it around

[dark furnace]

check your crucible, if all crucibles have 50 water in them, then you have no problem

[rugged island]

Let me try manually saturating the pipes it might be what that other person said that the 1s empty pipe resets the recepu

[dark furnace]

but for sewage, you are most likely at 0 for the last two

[rugged island]

yes but when the first overfills with 50 sewage it wont get more and will pass more over

[dark furnace]

while capped at the first one

[sick basin]

Thats not even correct
Its 2 sewage not 4

[storm garnet]

this is the problem of manifolds, you need for the first machine to fill so the next one fills at a better rate

all the way until the end

[sick basin]

Each refinery is only 1 sewage every 2 seconds

[small creek]

and use more power? no thanks 🚮

[wispy grove]

im not saying its every sec

[storm garnet]

once everything is filled, it works properly

[small creek]

wuling meta is reducing power consumption fr

[wispy grove]

im just saying every drop

[storm garnet]

that's why, if making a manifold, it's recommended to turn the machines off until they are full

[tawny bear]

true,,,,

[rugged island]

Ok I've manually saturated the last 2 let me check if its waht Etrexum was saying on the crucible recepy reseting

[small creek]

im gonna reduce my alternator by 1 fac 🗣️

[storm garnet]

if everything is properly put, both theoretical and real yield should be fine

[wispy grove]

this will spread properly

[rugged island]

Umm seems the issue must be in the sewage caputre, I'm losing some per S

[wispy grove]

good luck

[tawny bear]

i like looking at my machines, they're so compact and nothing's clogging my systems =w=

[low fern]

why can't you place V4 plots closer together? that's so stupid. it's not like you're gonna be putting sprinklers or other facilities there

[storm garnet]

convergers in this game are satan

[rugged island]

these are overfill ig?

[rugged island]

Might be the problem ig

[coral orchid]

LOL

[fluid igloo]

not much of a work, just try it like this and see if it works

[storm garnet]

pipes too, better not saturate them, try to keep them at 3/s max

[floral heron]

sounds fun ngl

[fluid igloo]

if split it evenly works, no question it u just do it

[solid bane]

Both are working properly imo, just that for the red line the first crucible will build up first until the third and then it will be split evenly

[storm garnet]

if i remake my factory, i'll try to have every pipe at 3/s max

[lusty violet]

do u mean 1.5/s

[rugged island]

mannnnn what a bummer

[rugged island]

pipes do 1/s

[storm garnet]

right, it's 3/2s

[rugged island]

wekk

well

120/min

[upper fiber]

remake factory to cater to bug... and then devs fixed it, gg

[rugged island]

so 2/s

[upper fiber]

testing again

[fluid igloo]

this is too long... one go top one go bottom is good enuf... why circle the long way xD

[storm garnet]

pipes max is 4/2s

[rugged island]

Getting idled again dang it

[storm garnet]

aka 2 pumps or 4 other machines

[wispy grove]

i mean its im just showing you how you spread it

[rugged island]

its convergers being ass

[pulsar cypress]

For better just split to 2 facilities per pipe, or 3 max.. Dont 4.. XD

[somber snow]

my dumbass modulated the cuprium parts wrong,
i woke up thinking id have a stockpile,
but i got 0

[storm garnet]

for pumps, you can put 3 pumps and split the third and converge it to each of the other ones

[rugged island]

bleh I don't feel like chaning things now but I'll keep in mind not to do it later

I'll split off 1 pipe to fix ig

but its annoying that it doesent just work for some reason

[storm garnet]

devs are too cheap to use quantum computer servers

[floral heron]

just wondering, why not each pipe to each respective crucible? is this an aesthethic thing you're after?

[solid bane]

Just wait till line 1,2,3 to build up to max then the fourth will run properly, at least thats in my case

[young stag]

how do yall keep producing sewage effectively

i keep running out of space for copium products

[rugged island]

The problem is in the sewage from convergers

like this

[storm garnet]

saving space mostly tbh

[rugged island]

saving space

[storm garnet]

also, i hate bridges, especially for pipes

i have 0 pipe bridges

[dark furnace]

@storm garnet yo it finally did it

[solid bane]

Aaaah yeah thats the problem

[floral heron]

dont the pipes just reach across the depot bus just fine without colliding?

[dark furnace]

the sewage is not clogging anymore

[rugged island]

converger causes the pipe to sutter and not pull 2 per second for some reason I'll fix it later

[fluid igloo]

yea this shorter split without moving the buildings around

[floral heron]

it seems like you have the facilities in parallel anyway

[feral moss]

If anyone would like to answer my dumb question, how do you save a blueprint in mobile? Comparing to the pc it’s harder than that

[wispy grove]

yeah thats better

[dark furnace]

people just need to feed more than 1/2s xiranite into the crucible to not have the 2nd crucible clogged

[storm garnet]

i'm glad (doesn't understand it at all)

[rugged island]

yea ik I can do that, I can also just split the last one and leave the rest a 3/s

[wispy grove]

what?

[rugged island]

gotta go to work now though

[dark furnace]

the chart proved that

• the reason of sewage clog on the 2nd crucible is caused by the producion of liquid xiranite

[somber snow]

its the same as belts,
belts move items at 30/min,
if u merge 2 belts, u need the next belt after converging to move at 60/min,
but thats not going to magically happen, so itll clog,

its the same with pipes

[dark furnace]

• it cannot be solved by using logistic to input one belt of xiranite

[floral heron]

right, i guess that's one way

[dark furnace]

2 hours ago this crucible had 50 sewage

[storm garnet]

are you perhaps proving that i shouldn't make food on my xiranite reactors?

cause i'll kill you

[upper fiber]

saving space

[pulsar cypress]

[floral heron]

you mean building outside the box

[pulsar cypress]

Blocking the passage.. Bad..
XD

[dark furnace]

I have this set as set 1 data

I will need to see what happens when the liquid xiranite goes to 0 in the 2nd crucible

[rugged island]

Pipes however, hold 120 per min

Which is 4 refineries

[dark furnace]

this is what in set 1 rn

[feral moss]

If anyone would like to answer my dumb question, how do you save a blueprint in mobile? Comparing to the pc it’s harder than that

[sick basin]

U just do the same thing

[pulsar cypress]

Bulk action - block facilities - save as blueprint?

[sick basin]

Select it in bulk mode and click the button

[dark furnace]

used to have 50 liquid xiranite and 22 sewage 5 hours ago

[feral moss]

But where’s the dang button where it saves for ya, in pc it’s like at the far right but it does not show in mobile :’)

[frail trail]

bro what the hell is going on with my pipe

[dark furnace]

@storm garnet

as shown here

[pulsar cypress]

Right side, above the bulk action button..

[storm garnet]

slowly understanding, i think

[sick basin]

It does?
Are you sure youre looking properly sir

[shy mulch]

My factory is messy as fk but at least i finally make 12/min battery, and 6/min yazhen syringe A

[wispy grove]

in my case i can only save the code, but the picture it doesnt work on me

[calm scarab]

You press +new blueprint, then you start adding facilities you want in the blueprint, then click save.

[dark furnace]

super stable SC and syringe production

[calm scarab]

Its like a "adding stuff into blueprint" mode when you click +new blueprint.

[feral moss]

Ohh okay thanks y’all!

[wispy grove]

finally, now go offline for 6 hrs

[dark furnace]

i did

i was testing the clog issue and yea it improved

no more sewage clog

[wispy grove]

so xiranite is the problem?

[dark furnace]

the speed of feeding xiranite into the first crucible, yes

[young stag]

cant you actually make like 12/12

[calm scarab]

Yazhen A 12/min? No way...

[frail trail]

why is this entire place water

[young stag]

2 parts fed by 2 refining units
1 bottle fed by 2 other refining units

[somber snow]

of course u can,
just do daily manual labour

[dark furnace]

you need 4 cuprium for 6/m yazhen so no

[storm garnet]

@dark furnace is your depot at 0 xiranite?

[calm scarab]

Its limited by the cuprium production capacity. 6/min yazhen A already needs all 4 cuprium slots aka 120/min yield

[dark furnace]

no, it was originally capped at 58k because of deficiency, I intentionally dumped it to around 57k 2 hours ago and now it stays the same give or take 20 because of stash cycle

before messing around with the crucibles my xiranite had an surplus despite 1:1

I think it gained like 20 though because set 1 kept feeding one xiranite input only

[wispy grove]

imma try 3 belts

imma split one to each crucible

[fervent spoke]

So the solution is feed 2 lines of xira into the reactors each ?

[dark furnace]

not just belts but you need to feed more than 1 input into the crucible

[wispy grove]

more like 1.5 instead of 2 belts

[storm garnet]

it seems your set 2 needs a bit of extra water to account for the bugs

maybe your set 1 too

[atomic fiber]

ye

[dark furnace]

yea I didn't change the number on the top row

I am feeding 2 pumps into set 2 and 1.5 pump for set 1

[storm garnet]

with extra water, you might start accumulating liquid xiranite even

[dark furnace]

so the first crucible always has 50 water capped

[fervent spoke]

Aww rip using them as pass through for my oricubes

[dark furnace]

the crucibles were capped with water from the first timestamp so it's not factor

[atomic fiber]

tested for 2 hours offline. surprisingly it don't accumulate at all

[storm garnet]

i c

[ornate sorrel]

Story of Undertale

[wispy grove]

xiranite clog is better than sewage clog since it doesnt disrupt anything

[storm garnet]

well, now my xiranite + food reactor dream is over i guess. karma is a bitch

[dark furnace]

the breaking point is when I add two inputs into set 2 when their sewage start decreasing while I offline

[storm garnet]

i'll wait for the last results of your set 1 though

[atomic fiber]

you want to clog xiranite, sewage, and water tbh.

but you want to also add sewage auto clog management

my sewage is always at 50 on my crucible

[dark furnace]

should highlight set 2 only but you get it

[upper fiber]

i should hide this owl

[coral orchid]

I'm guessing about this kind of Transport bug
I think we need to make the distance closer albeit impossible

Although I rarely found it on Valley IV

[atomic fiber]

or just use 2 belt

overfeed

[viscid plover]

keeping a log is crazy work, kudos to you

[atomic fiber]

Valley IV also have it. but it just less sensitive i think. because it don't have pipes

[coral orchid]

Well pipes might be the one that has the calculation issue in the first place

or Fluid

probably

[storm garnet]

i guess i'll keep my setup anyways since i'm making components for a while

[dark furnace]

this is my easy clog buffer setup

• the sewage fill up the tank only if the crucible sewage is clogged up.
• the tank stop sleeping if the sewage start clogging
• there is 500 unit per tank for buffer
• just stash the tank to dispose the clogged up sewage, then place an empty tank to reset it
• no energy needed

[coral orchid]

Just the hell dev are making the tick not absolute 1s

they just make 0.997 or 1.003

[storm garnet]

my only joy when logging in daily is to check if the factory is f'd up anyways

[coral orchid]

atm I'm trying to overfeed the pipe and see if the problem is the pipe

[storm garnet]

same, but i use conduits sadly

[coral orchid]

or Transport Belt

[atomic fiber]

you can also use the pipes priority instead of tank buffer.
this way all sewage automatically go to treatment once your crucible is full

doesn't need to be exact same as this

Basically just need low ratio of pipes that go to treatment

[coral orchid]

I use this, and somehow it's making another clog

[dark furnace]

wouldn't you lose like 1/6 sewage?

[atomic fiber]

how? unless you put too much sewage to the treatment

[storm garnet]

i guess you can put 2 treatment units down the line, 1 for normal work and another when it clogs

[dark furnace]

oh wait 1/12 because you are starting from the top

[atomic fiber]

you lose 1/8 sewage yes. that is why you must input more than needed by a bit. but not too much that would overflow the treatment

[dark furnace]

1/8?

um let me take a digger look

I hate this minecraft minigame

[atomic fiber]

yes it's divide by two 3 times. but that isn't really important, as long as it's low ratio it's okay since you just want it to clog and ratio isn't that important

[storm garnet]

i guess the ideal thing is join 2 cuprium sewage pipes with 1 xircon sewage pipes, then feed it back to xircon with that splitter setup

[dark furnace]

how much is too much? do you loop back the xircon's sewage and place two treatment at the end with splitter?

[storm garnet]

3/2 seconds at most in 1 pipe

[coral orchid]

7/8 usage
1/8 loss

Basically still clogging

[storm garnet]

man, do i have to remake the factory now...

[dark furnace]

what about the second crucible?

[coral orchid]

Unless we have mech that :

1. if overflow happened, use 2nd way
2. if no overflow happened, use 1st way

[atomic fiber]

treatment can only treat 0.5/min sewage.

so for 1 SC line you should at most input 1/min sewage (with loop) or 2/min sewage (if you don't loop back the sewage)

[atomic fiber]

yeah you want to clog the crucible. after it clog the pipes that go to treatment actually doesn't go in 1/8 speed, but can go full speed

[atomic fiber]

same. also it's just example. doesn't need to be exact same as mine

[dark furnace]

think I am combining this with the 2 xiranite input later

don't care much about edging energy anymore

I am using 2 wuling battery already anyway

[coral orchid]

Unless we do make like this :

1. Use 2 input, make it overfeed
2. Use processing, make it to eat the excess

that will clear the problem

but

you need more spaces

[pure egret]

how can i fix. did by hand (no blueprint)

[dark furnace]

wuling AIC is free real estate

[wispy grove]

i still dont get it, what are thos numbers

[storm garnet]

i made a quick proof of concept for what i said before. 2 cuprium refiners sewage worth are coming above

[atomic fiber]

this is what happening on clog. full speed to treatment

[pure egret]

keeps getting clogged

[dark furnace]

the numbers are the amount of stuffs inside each crucible, after changing one condition throughout some offline time

[storm garnet]

maybe i could put extra splitters going to the reactors

[coral orchid]

To make this happened, you need 2 feeder

[shadow canopy]

Always waving after offline, first minute login

[atomic fiber]

yes you need 2

or 1 and a half

[dark furnace]

@wispy grove and it shows that:

• using belt or logistics to feed xiranite don't affect the sewage clog
• adding 2 xiranite input for liquid xiranite slowly consume sewage in the 2nd crucible

[atomic fiber]

this. i also agree with this. we should clog the xiranite

[wispy grove]

so youre saying, it doesnt build up anymore? it slowly decipates?

[dark furnace]

yea sewage in 2nd crucible decreased from 50 to 48 and 44 after 2 hours

[atomic fiber]

ye. you are actually lack sewage, if you clog the xiranite.

This is because it's not the crucible that is slow. but we are just lacking xiranite liquid

[wispy grove]

without treatment filter?

[dark furnace]

not sure why one crucible decreased faster than the other maybe because of pipe order

[dark furnace]

no treamtment filter

[wispy grove]

so it is true, xiranite is just slow

[atomic fiber]

clog it 👍

[dark furnace]

tbh it was hinted by having a surplus xiranite in your depot already, the first crucible is not processing faster than we made them

[storm garnet]

mfw i need to use either bridges or conduits if i want to do my new setup

[dark furnace]

but at first I thought it was cause by the slow belt bug while you offline, I tried converting all belts to logistics but it didn't help

[wispy grove]

ive been suspecting this since march 15 bruv. dang

[atomic fiber]

because even thought splitter/converger faster than belt on offline.

converger/splitter on offline is actually still slower than belt in online

[frail trail]

?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

good job yall

now ofc we wanna test it ourselves first

[dark furnace]

this sucks ngl but if you offline longer than online than choose logistic I guess

but the difference is very minor

[wispy grove]

nahh

[atomic fiber]

yes

[wispy grove]

nvm

[atomic fiber]

or just input 2 belt

no need logistic. Just need to overfeed

[wispy grove]

im using 1.5 belt each

i wanna know if it works

if it still builds up then we need 2

[atomic fiber]

1.5 work fine on mine

[dark furnace]

though based on what @atomic fiber shared I think we better clog both xiranite and sewage for min-maxed efficiency

[atomic fiber]

this. surprisingly you also still don't have excess Xircon, even after clogging xiranite and sewage

[dark furnace]

and ngl the sewage clog is easier than I thought it would be

[wispy grove]

the factory is saved

[dark furnace]

i guess the main goal is not to clog cuprium production

which is the most impactful issue

[marble yarrow]

me complaining since feb 11

[atomic fiber]

yeah...

[wispy grove]

suspecting and complaining is different tho

[dark furnace]

clogging cuprium creates a doom loop

[wispy grove]

we have no leads before

[frail trail]

what's going on with the pipe 👀

[wispy grove]

sigh another rearrange ment again

[dark furnace]

the factory must clog

oh wait

the factory must grow!

[marble yarrow]

LIKE.WTF THIS SHI DOIN ON HIMSELF

[dark furnace]

you created a self clog

might be useful in the future

[marble yarrow]

yeah but this is 100% smooth online for any duration you go

[wispy grove]

splitting and converging one belt🔥

oh w8

[jovial breach]

It's bridge

I think

[wispy grove]

the 2nd is a bridge

[marble yarrow]

its a self-clog to force 20/min

[jovial breach]

I really cant tell which is which just from looking

[dark furnace]

I mean you already knew the game calculates belt and logistics travel speed differently so

[wispy grove]

the first belt reaches the refinery within 6 secs, the other belt is 8 secs

[dark furnace]

funny how there's no pattern though

[wispy grove]

count the boxes that the ore goes through x2

[marble yarrow]

it doesnt clog itself but strangely does in the reports

no build up happens in the facility, so its a pre-production shi