aic-factory

[pulsar cypress]

U can't..
*the wuling gov will send u an email and close down ur factory for environmental issue..
*jk

[hushed blaze]

You can't discharge sewage and xircon inert btw

[iron stratus]

supply unit just doesnt let it out

[wispy grove]

supply unit wont let you

[sand pivot]

aw man

[wispy grove]

[hushed blaze]

But you can fill the bottle of sewage

[dawn flax]

i did an attempt before 1.1, yeah it wouldn't

[pulsar cypress]

*then sell em to the peps via depot..

[sand pivot]

I was thinking about turning the ancestral spring into the dump spring

[wispy grove]

typical manufacturing company, dumping wastes on rivers

[smoky eagle]

why is it so easy for my cuprium to reach 0 😭

[dawn flax]

i tried to dump waste water on the Palace's pond, as in pic

[sand pivot]

aye man, there's a reason why we're called ENDfield

we're on the field to end Talos-II

[crystal onyx]

i got excited for cuprium to replace the 3 belts of ferrium we get just for it to be like 4 belts

[smoky eagle]

4 belts only?

guh

[crystal onyx]

im pretty sure

i can have 4 belts

[smoky eagle]

I'm only using 3

and it's still zeroing

😭

wha

[pulsar cypress]

Copium dose need to be limited as per dev said..
Too much copium is bad..

[crystal onyx]

i think its cuz one of my cuprium belts is like slower

[wispy grove]

look at that

[smoky eagle]

GUH

But i only have 3 ore output

[sand pivot]

wait how many refineries of copium am I supposed to have on my yazhen A farm? 4?

[smoky eagle]

guh

[crystal onyx]

yo like what is the point of theoretical data lowk

[smoky eagle]

i turned off these 2 refiners, so the other corners in AIC are the only ones functioning rn...

[sand pivot]

depot data shows basically what enters and leaves your depot only

current data shows the machines too

if I got it right and explained in a simple way

so since ore enters your depot (from the mining rig) you observe it in the theoretical data

[smoky eagle]

I turned off my 3rd ore output 😭

it's increasing again

yay

[frail trail]

👀

[smoky eagle]

lmao

[sand pivot]

do you perhaps have a depot unloader you are not using set to copium?

maybe the PAC unloader?

[pulsar cypress]

Theory is like if u use em all at max capacity..
But sometimes there's like sandleaf we only use 2 belt..
Its not maximal, it shown in current as lower value..

[sand pivot]

idk if it counts it but it could be that

[smoky eagle]

ye only 2 outputs are active rn

is it really like this

guh

[sand pivot]

cause if you only have 3 you're not supposed to be using that much I think (if I did the math right)

[dawn flax]

2 sandleaf belts to use, 1 belt to stash

[sand pivot]

depot unloader takes 30 per min (again if I did the math right)

30*3 is 90 no?

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Normally..

[pulsar cypress]

Check how many unloader working in copium output..

[lusty violet]

depot unloaders don't affect usage data

[pulsar cypress]

Aic and dont forget maybe in ur sub pac.. XD

Maybe u forget, there's another unloader of cope somewhere..

Not just 3..

[sand pivot]

I mean if you have a depot unloader with a belt but it's not connected to anything and it's set to copium I think it does though

[lusty violet]

machines that are switched off still count in theoretical

[sand pivot]

I could be wrong but yeah

[lusty violet]

depot unloader with belt doesn't change still

[sand pivot]

cause I think theoretical counts what leaves your depot so if it's leaving to the belt, it's still counting it as leaving the depot

or ig not

[pulsar cypress]

No, he's problem is that her copium ore stock empty with just 3 unloader..
Sounds weird coz it should be able to sustain 4 unloader..

[lusty violet]

theoretical usage is machines that are connected to the grid with a recipe selected

[sand pivot]

I see I see

[shrewd knoll]

anything with a set recipe or option counts

powered or unpowered

[sand pivot]

so in this case they definitely have a machine set to something that uses copium

which is giving them a higher number than it should

?

[shrewd knoll]

the only exception is the PAC unloaders

[sand pivot]

so PAC unloaders still count towards theoretical?

[shrewd knoll]

if you set them to an item but not use them

[sand pivot]

even if not connected to anything?

[shrewd knoll]

it wont count

[trail mirage]

well unloaders dont count

any sort of facilities would

[sand pivot]

so both unloaders and PAC don't count towards theoretical

[shrewd knoll]

they aren't actually "consuming" anything

[undone ether]

Only thing theoretical takes into account is placed units that do crafts

[sand pivot]

only the rest of the machines

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

[shrewd knoll]

has to be a facility that intakes and consumes the item

with the recipe set

[pulsar cypress]

Theory is max facility input output number..

[lusty violet]

or rather, facility output and ore yield

[smoky eagle]

yay it's growing again

[slate minnow]

Hydro vs mk2 mining for ferium

Which better

U just use 10 power to supply water to 3 ferium vien

[smoky eagle]

uhhhh so how am i supposed to still create gear

[undone ether]

Theyre the exact same. Only difference is how you power it

[smoky eagle]

if 2 ports go to moulding unit

[shrewd knoll]

unless you are hurting for protocol capacity, just go hydro for ferrium

the originium is kinda meh

maybe not worth your time when the entire place is high purity

[pulsar cypress]

Hydro for all ore types in wuling.. °-°)b

[shrewd knoll]

I dont think a lot of people are edging the power limit that they need to spend 5 or 10 less power per ori field

[dark furnace]

if you use two wuling batteries for energy it doesn't really matter

[pulsar cypress]

Start the plumbing era..

[dark furnace]

and if you are edging energy you probably need to change all mining rig to hydro it saves at least 200 energy

[slate minnow]

Ye... Since with 10 power u can supply 3 vien

Which save 20 power if u use for ferium
Or
5 power for origi

[pulsar cypress]

Hydro drill do nice.. It keep my power usage at 3.3k..
So 1 battery enough..

[smoky eagle]

LOL

edging

[crystal onyx]

what kind?

[shrewd knoll]

isnt most people doing 10.5 SC battery anyway?

you have like 3.8k energy

if you burn the excess originium

[smoky eagle]

both

coz cuprium easily runs out

[fast axle]

no im infact do the yazhen C

[smoky eagle]

lol

[wispy grove]

not 12?

[crystal onyx]

its just cuprium parts and its not like you need a lot really

[shrewd knoll]

why 12, you are locking yourself out of everything else

[paper magnet]

If you do 12 you can't make components

[shrewd knoll]

like components

[fast axle]

why 12 if you can make 18

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[shrewd knoll]

you only need 9 to break outpost bills

[dark furnace]

ngl they give enough battery and yazhen A production for us to use 2 batteries for 6.6k energy, buy all stock bills from lv3 outpost with tang tang, while having some leftover, yet people edge for some reason

[fast axle]

shhh....

[shrewd knoll]

and you are probably burning one battery

so 10.5 is fine

and even if you make 12, you are burning 2 batteries

you are still getting 9

[paper magnet]

I tried to hydromine orginium and the first spot I picked had only 2 ores so it didn't save any energy

[shrewd knoll]

unless you do the stupid dige thing and get some decimal amount of energy back

[slate minnow]

Yeee lol

[paper magnet]

So it's probably only worth it for that 1 spot in jingyin with like 6 veins

[shrewd knoll]

or you can just burn originium and make 10.5

[slate minnow]

The only saving energy was ferium ore

U save total 40

[marble yarrow]

not really. you have to stretch it out

[paper magnet]

Yuh had to because I ran out of sandleaf and had to put another planter

[marble yarrow]

make every water count

[dark furnace]

real if you were using the mining rig I

[paper magnet]

As in the irl sanity required to redo all the mines

[slate minnow]

Some part only 2 vien which doesnt save any energy, if ur using mk1 then its nothing lol

[paper magnet]

It's not really worth it for some of the originium spots

[slate minnow]

Do the math

[marble yarrow]

do the math

[slate minnow]

Ohhh hell nawh.... Pipe stretching 🥀

[shrewd knoll]

thats kinda dangerous number to stay at, you can never replenish the reserves lol

[dark furnace]

there are 2 other batches with 5 origrium ore

[wispy grove]

1 more facility to break my factory

[frail trail]

conduit

[hushed blaze]

[marble yarrow]

7 originums for 2 pumps is the stretch

[frail trail]

we all love a little conduit

[dark furnace]

man all the effort just to put one more water treatment

[marble yarrow]

future proofers hate this trick

[sand pivot]

guys I have a question... pipes have a flow rate of 2 units per second, refining machines produce sewage at a 1 unit per second rate, if I use a pipe converger, will my machine get clogged?

[marble yarrow]

(they future proof maxed jingyu)

[slate minnow]

I feel one pump is best for 3 vein

[shrewd knoll]

they arent future proofers, they are lazy guys

[pulsar cypress]

[viscid plover]

just wait til 2.0 and do it all at once

[marble yarrow]

you do the math, as you have said. low purity exists

[viscid plover]

future proof

[wispy grove]

yes, but offline. online it wont even if its 24hrs

[paper magnet]

Yes because the treatment can only treat at 1/2s

[slate minnow]

Hmmm i see 🤔

[sand pivot]

can you explain?

[dark furnace]

low purity ore only need 0.25/s water

oh wait

1/6

0.16666

[sand pivot]

so if I converge the pipes, my machines will clog every time I'm online? why's that?

[pulsar willow]

1 water every 6 seconds

[shrewd knoll]

still wouldnt do it for the wuling city area though

maybe the stockade valley

if you want a eco farm or something

[marble yarrow]

(im sitting on 3.05k power until im out of my last wuling LCs)

[wispy grove]

refining machines actually make 1 sewage every 2 secs. combining 4 pipes to 1 is still possible. but not offline

[sand pivot]

I don't mean 4 pipes into one

I mean 2 pipes into 1

so I get the normal flow rate of 2 units per second

so I can then split them

[wispy grove]

yes technically yes

[frail trail]

not offline 👀

wdym by that

[sand pivot]

just so instead of 2 pipes going the same way, I have 1 and then turn it into 2

[trail mirage]

flexing my aic once again

[wispy grove]

but not offline

[sand pivot]

why does it not work offline?

did they fuck up something with the idle algorithm/ calculations?

[smoky eagle]

where we at

[wispy grove]

basically yeah

[sand pivot]

so cringe dude

[smoky eagle]

so organized

[sand pivot]

so basically for my factory to work I need an abomination of a factory 😭

[wispy grove]

nah nah

instead of 2 splitting pipes

[shrewd knoll]

use the space to fix the sphagetti disaster that triggers some people

[wispy grove]

use 3

the 3rd goes to the treatment, but only use it when you get sewage clog

[trail mirage]

if my belts are sphagetti disasters then what are the others 😭

[sand pivot]

that's kinda hard to setup though 😅

[shrewd knoll]

i actually like the battery setup, its not a sphaghetti disaster

but that xiranite is....

[sand pivot]

I guess I will just go with the ugly option tbh

[frail trail]

wtf is going on with my rate

[trail mirage]

whats wrong with syringe a

[wispy grove]

you only need 1 converger from 2 refineries, one pipe, one splitter that makes 3 branches, 1 for each crucible(2 total) the 3rd goes to the treatment

[marble yarrow]

peak space management

[frail trail]

what is wrong with everything should be the correct question

[sand pivot]

but if I do that, when I'm online the machine won't be running properly unless I turn it off manually right?

[dark furnace]

I assume there's an underlying problem with crucible not making stuffs at exactly one per 2s ngl

[sand pivot]

unless I turn the treatment unit off manually

[trail mirage]

is that on the 10m?

[frail trail]

2h

which i know can be funky sometimes

even on 10m it's not great

[wispy grove]

you only turn it off when it doesnt clog or you wanna log off again, turn it on when its reaches 50 clog.

[shrewd knoll]

its just the server losing frames

it would -1 or -2 depending on how much of a inferno their servers are

[sand pivot]

and if I go with the ugly option, I don't need to do all this or do I still need to do it?

[wispy grove]

wdym by ugly option?

[sand pivot]

ugly option being no pipe convergers

and pipe splitters

[wispy grove]

you will still do the same

but more pipes

[sand pivot]

what a hassle LMAO

[wispy grove]

convergers helps you manage space tbh

[sand pivot]

I am trying to set something up so I don't have extra work

turns out I still have extra work 😭

[shrewd knoll]

they just need some logic gates and on off switches for belts/pipes and everything will be fine

[wispy grove]

depot unloaders .

[shrewd knoll]

everything can use one belt and pipe

no matter how slow it may be

[trail mirage]

we have "D

[sand pivot]

it's so cringe because the treatment station only takes 1 input as well so I basically need 2 treatment stations... 1 for extra sewage and 1 for inert xircon

[wispy grove]

we have depot unloaders to switch on and off but its still a hassle cause you need to count how much time it passes to match thecrucible production rate

[frail trail]

stat report not having a Y-axis is kinda cringe ngl

[wispy grove]

i think youve seen my factory right?

[sand pivot]

do I need to do the same for the liquid xiranite if I converge it into one pipe?

[wispy grove]

nahhh

its takes 2 secs to treat one unit

[sand pivot]

well yeah cause that doesn't really clog anything

other than the forges of the sky maybe

[wispy grove]

you can converge and split it again butthats up to you

but dont use one treatment for 2 crucibles

it will clog

[sand pivot]

I will see what I can cook up

[wispy grove]

my factory is using 4 treatment plants

[sand pivot]

yeah I will use an individual treatment per crucible

[arctic sluice]

guys i want to make some cuprium components too. do i divert 2 forges to make 1 xircon output ? what about yahzen siringe A too

[patent salmon]

Wha

[subtle finch]

@frail trail they took your missing output

[patent salmon]

I see

[smoky eagle]

man

numbers

[wispy grove]

its a stacked ore on your mining rigs

[sand pivot]

do I need a treatment machine for the sewage and 1 for the inert effluent or do I use the same for both?

[wispy grove]

one each

within 5 crucibles you can use 3 treatment plants

1 for each inert

and the 3rd for sewage

[shrewd knoll]

or no sewage if you loop it back to the 2nd crucible using sewage, you just need to supply the first one

[wispy grove]

yeah the 1st crucible will get sewage clogged

[shrewd knoll]

the 1st one will not though, you are only giving it 30 per minute

[wispy grove]

if youre offine

[shrewd knoll]

i have mine doing that for a long time, no clogs

[wispy grove]

your 2nd crucible will get xiranite clogged instead

[shrewd knoll]

xiranite is not a clog problem ingredient

[frail trail]

I forgot to do yesterday's daily

[shrewd knoll]

it can clog if it wants

[frail trail]

fuck

[subtle finch]

i also loop mine and it doesn't clog

[wispy grove]

thats fair

[frail trail]

my sanity was overflowing for an entire day

[wispy grove]

but for me i dont want to let it both clog

so yeah

[sand pivot]

are you guys talking about effluent or xircon production?

[smoky eagle]

how many are y'all at lol

[subtle finch]

and i keep missing the daily login in skport

[sand pivot]

need to be specific when y'all mention crucibles

cause I am talking about effluent production

there's no way to loop it back

[wispy grove]

my bad

[sand pivot]

because it produces effluent and inert effluent

so there's no sewage output

[shrewd knoll]

its from the final product

back into the effluent

thats the loopback

[smoky eagle]

the xircon one produces sewage

[sand pivot]

I see so from 1st xircon crucible, you loop to the 2nd xircon crucible and from 2nd xircon crucible into the effluent crucible?

[shrewd knoll]

so you can supply 1 effluent crucible, and have the xircon supply the second one

[wispy grove]

1st and 2nd crucible are the ones making effluent, the 1st one is connected to the refinery, the 3rd crucible makes xircon, it also produces sewage which u can use it to loop it back to the 2nd crucible as its sewage input

[ancient pier]

Do u guys think my factory gonna explode in offline production?

[shrewd knoll]

endfield factories only implode

[sand pivot]

chat

the factory must NOT grow

I am tired of this already 😭

[smoky eagle]

lol

[dawn flax]

store few wuling batteries, whether type, "as reserve" for "emegency"

[wispy grove]

do the best course of action:copy paste

[arctic sluice]

guys. if i want to make cuprium components. im guessing i gotta stop yahzen syringe A farm?

[wispy grove]

stop making batteries

[arctic sluice]

[slim moat]

is it better to use ferrium to make valley batteries as to reduce wuling battery usage or to make C drinks when you aren't dumping all xianrite into batteries

[sand pivot]

you mean like this?

[arctic sluice]

but like

[sand pivot]

I replied to that message just to ping you btw, not related to the content of the message whatsoever

[arctic sluice]

out of 4 cuprium refineries. 2 go to make cuprium parts. 1 goes to make bottles, and i have 1 left for cuprium parts to make component. do i gotta stop making medicine too??

[wispy grove]

yup, just rotate the treatment if youre not using it to reduce the clogging

[shrewd knoll]

just siphon the parts and make like 1 component per 2 minutes or something, you dont need a lot, but you do want something

[arctic sluice]

do what now?

[sand pivot]

could I technically not put a second splitter closer to the treatment station to avoid having to leave a gap for the pipe to loop back to treatment station?

or will that not fix the issue?

[shrewd knoll]

take the parts directly from the medicine line or add a very slowed down belt towards the components

so the income exist, you dont want a lot of it

[arctic sluice]

like do i gotta stop one factory that makes xircon and syringe?

[arctic sluice]

so split the belts?

[shrewd knoll]

you dont have to stop anything, you just want a microscopic amount of parts to divert into the components

[arctic sluice]

hm

[wispy grove]

why not converge it here

[subtle finch]

it might be easier to send the cuprium parts to the depot first, then split that between packaging and gearing

[shrewd knoll]

especially since the red equipment takes 16k wuling bucks to make

[arctic sluice]

ohhh true

hm

[sand pivot]

ig I could yeah

[wispy grove]

if you wanna loop it back to the 2nd crucible, you only need 1 refinery

[arctic sluice]

do the syringes need 2x parts 1x bottle to be efficient?

[hallow monolith]

is this the right way to do a 1/6th splitter...

[wispy grove]

thats 1/8

oh w8

[sand pivot]

do I need 2?

[pulsar willow]

What

[hallow monolith]

isn't this 1/6th?

am i crazy

[wispy grove]

for looping you only need 1

[subtle finch]

looks okay

[wispy grove]

ah yes yes

[hallow monolith]

this is what a 5 year engineering degree and 13 years working in software gets you

lobotomized in factory games

[dark furnace]

I added a storage for the 3rd split then converge back to the original pipe, this 300 buffer can last around a week before I just stash it and place a new empty fluid tank

[arctic sluice]

i feel like im learning engineering by playing this game smh

[smoky eagle]

hahaha

[hallow monolith]

i think the joke is you learn software engineering to get better at factorio

[smoky eagle]

computer science here

software engineer

.<

[wispy grove]

insane

[smoky eagle]

it feelsgoodman

[arctic sluice]

i did 1 year of software engineering in uni lmao

[sand pivot]

can you explain the loop?

refinery > 1st effluent crucible > xircon crucible > 2nd effluent crucible?

is that the sewage cycle?

[shrewd knoll]

factorio is all about wiring and conditions, not the actual factory

[wispy grove]

yeah

[shrewd knoll]

the factory can be run by logistic bots lol

[arctic sluice]

i finally feel satisfied in my forge setup. 4x of em

[vapid granite]

Is there a way i can use my reactor crucible to just turn waste and xirinite liquid to make it into Xircon effluent?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

you did it

[hallow monolith]

false, factorio is all about debugging why your fucking belts are unbalanced and the updating your factory and then taking everything offline cause you disconnected a key power line

[sand pivot]

and this way, no clogs?

[hallow monolith]

which is pretty much 90% of my job in big tech nowadays

[shrewd knoll]

there is but its not reliable and will only work at 50% efficiency

[wispy grove]

still clogs

[sand pivot]

wtf LMAO

[wispy grove]

but only happens of 1st crucible

[vapid granite]

Oh thats cool, this is mine

[subtle finch]

i made my layout easy to follow. first part is liquid xiranite, second is effluent, third is xircon rock

[sand pivot]

so how do I "unclog" it?

will it not clog all of my refineries once sewage is clogged?

[wispy grove]

manual

[arctic sluice]

oh my god that is beautiful. it pleases my eyes

[crimson inlet]

I think I fixed my excess sewage by removing every sewage 💀

[wispy grove]

it will

[marble yarrow]

you cant fit xircon and inert xircon in that 1 free slot anyway

[sand pivot]

manual??

[crimson inlet]

it now works 2:2 instead of adding more

[pulsar willow]

It's just numbers. Numbers-numbers-numbers. Main problems are maximum throughput and balancing.

[sand pivot]

you mean every day I have to connect the pipes to a treatment station manually to unclog the first crucible??

[crimson inlet]

I don't have to use my flush system anymore

[sand pivot]

😭

[wispy grove]

manual, i mean adding a pipe branch to the treatment unit

[wispy grove]

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss

https://tenor.com/view/applause-gif-18502655

[pulsar willow]

This shit is so ass

[dark furnace]

i guess this works easier for me before they make machine with sewage inside not able to be stashed

[wispy grove]

now youre getting it

[crimson inlet]

now, its a waiting game

[sand pivot]

I am still in denial

[dark furnace]

broke cat

[sand pivot]

how badly they fucked the AIC factory up 💀

[crimson inlet]

GET A JOB TANGTANG, I NEED MORE MONEY

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-money-vince-mcmahon-money-wwe-capitalism-gif-23623669

[wispy grove]

if you dont want it to get clogged. dont go offline

let it run for 24 hrs

you wont see any clog whatsoever

[pulsar willow]

They fucked up with float values or what

[dawn flax]

any job for Tangtang but factory manager

[pulsar willow]

Why does it clog up lol

[sand pivot]

the factory must grow clog!

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/tangtang-mifu-endfield-strangled-arknights-gif-2265947537331565601

[wispy grove]

Just dont go offline, thats the root of all clogging

[pulsar willow]

She succeded though. We just have to tell her not to shred the batteries again.

[dawn flax]

but interesting, i haven't explored if Crucible does function outside AIC zone

[shrewd knoll]

everything works outside the AIC, just that all the belt inputs and outputs are closed

[wispy grove]

It functions

[dawn flax]

nice, although i won't bother relocate them outside atm anyway

[crimson inlet]

I run my water treatment unit when offline for clogging, forgot to turn it off, then came back with 0 sewage but still running, shut it down, went offline again.

Came back, it works perfectly as a 2:2 ratio of sewage

[sand pivot]

is there no way to like have it slightly underperforming in a way that fixes the clogs/ we don't have to manually unclog it?

[hallow monolith]

nice... perfectly balanced...

[marble yarrow]

non-12/min SC configs can be less susceptible to sewage shi

[wispy grove]

We are still on that course

[sand pivot]

I'd honestly rather have the machine underperforming and make less batteris than having to deal with this bs 😭

[pulsar willow]

Wow rare Valley battery production in Wuling.

[wispy grove]

Then let it clog 😌

[pulsar willow]

Let it clog, let it xlog, let it clog...

[thin tinsel]

Yassss

[pulsar willow]

Frank Sew-natra

[sand pivot]

the problem is if you let it clogthe refineries stop

[hallow monolith]

i should optimize my towers... but then again im too lazy

[vapid granite]

What do i do with the inert?

[thin tinsel]

Water treatment

[wispy grove]

To the treatment

[sand pivot]

well ig I'd have less yazhen

[shrewd knoll]

pay the energy tax

[pulsar willow]

Water treatment

[sand pivot]

but I'd not have to deal with the unclogging issue

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1482211226812416051/pipers.mp4?ex=69b8c346&is=69b771c6&hm=6edccfca24298b87544d15c680bae0d03d5f406a60faf392a9eaba0b75b14190&

[ashen ferry]

Soup

[thin tinsel]

[shrewd knoll]

i just witnessed hit and run assault with intent to kill

[wispy grove]

i mean you play everyday tho

[marble yarrow]

the water must flow

[dark furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/lawn-gif-24570222

[pulsar willow]

The primordial urge to place a kilometer long pipe

[frail trail]

how would the weekly catalyst work in the future, we are already getting 80/week and by the time we get to like 2.0 we will be like 300/week unless they remove weekly catalyst from old region

[vapid granite]

Aight so like what, i need 4 grinding units?

[sand pivot]

nah I do sometimes take breaks

like 1 day break

[fluid fog]

dump it

[frail trail]

yes 4 grinding

[sand pivot]

that's why I'd like it to not clog up

[frail trail]

which is giga cringe for the sandleaf

[dark furnace]

make new catalyst that purchase from new region

and news gears that can't use the old caralyst

[fleet niche]

Maybe new tier of artificing

[wispy grove]

@sand pivot use fluid tank instead its much better

the clogging is inevitable

[frail trail]

maybe we might get regional catalyst

[wispy grove]

all we can do is reduce the clogging issue

[undone ether]

This is exactly how they work. It's tied to their region

[dark furnace]

theoratically the more tanks you place for the buffer pipe, the longer you can ignore it before replacing them with empty tanks, better if you just BP it

[smoky eagle]

.<

tried to save my cuprium from being 0

again

[arctic sluice]

is this setup fine to make components and yahzen syringe A? i got two SC wuling battery factories so its using 4 forges

or will i run out of xiranite?

or should i split the xiranite going into the components, one belt in and one belt in a protocol stash

[wispy grove]

slowly but surely

[frail trail]

you are using a bit too much xiranite

[marble yarrow]

your moulding will clog but good work on separating it from the liquid refiners

[frail trail]

you will need to turn off/lower rate of a sc bat maker

also what ever you do make sure to have something to prevent sewage overflow

[arctic sluice]

how could i do that? go for 3x and x1 ratio to clog the xircon ?

[arctic sluice]

i got that covered

[subtle finch]

split the xiranite line and send it back to the depot, do the same with another xiranite line that's making the liquid xiranite. send 2/3 and 1/3 respectively. or 5/6 and 1/6

[sand pivot]

do the water treatment systems at least destroy sewage at a normal rate? like if I have these 2 refineries converged (with a pipe converger) and connected to a treatment unit, does it shred the sewage on a 2:2 ratio?

[arctic sluice]

uhhhhhhh that sound a bit confusing lmao

[sand pivot]

like if I connect a water treatment station where the purple arrow is pointing, will the 2 refineries not clog?

[dark furnace]

there was a guy I think has one of the most neat setup for 4x xiranite production
#aic-factory message

notice how they are storing the extra 4x sandleaf powder

[arctic sluice]

so like this?

[arctic sluice]

lemme check

[arctic sluice]

that is fucking beautiful

[dark furnace]

yea

[arctic sluice]

looks so much nicer than my setup :(

i might copy LMFAO

[sand pivot]

does anyone know the answer to this please?

[arctic sluice]

but i dont know what to do with my issue for making components without comprimising my battery creation

hm

[subtle finch]

that can work too, that's half split. this is 1/3 for example

[vapid granite]

i have CREATEED OITTTTT

[shut rover]

You would have to make lc for the time being instead of doing sc until your components is of abundance

[arctic sluice]

and is that gonna keep me in the green without using more than i make?

[atomic swan]

That looks like one hell of a mess...

[arctic sluice]

oh true

im using 4.01k power rn tho. rip

[crimson inlet]

Me when tangtang gets 50mil

[arctic sluice]

welp

[atomic swan]

Yeesh... 4K Power is rough.

[arctic sluice]

is that high LMAO?

[atomic swan]

I could've hit like 5K on Valley IV if my factory wasn't so shot.

[subtle finch]

im at 3.15k

[arctic sluice]

my valley IV is at like

5.61k

LOL

its making everything and efficiently so

[marble yarrow]

4.6k valley club

[atomic swan]

Mine is minimum 2.5K because I can't be asked for the wave defense.

[crimson inlet]

I didn't know you can block enemies with buildings 💀

https://x.com/i/status/2033665029401415841

ぴ (@aisaka16347)

おはようございます☀
動画で見た超域を栽培機で囲むのやってみました🔥
絵面が酷い😂

X · Mar 16, 2026, 10:01 PM

[atomic swan]

Not that I mind doing it, but I am rusty as heck when it comes to classic Arknights layout.

[marble yarrow]

yeah i saw this also lmaooo

incineration chamber

[subtle finch]

how can you even place planters there

[atomic swan]

Wait– I just noticed what was goin' on with that image.

[crimson inlet]

literally a mob xp farm

[atomic swan]

They're boxed in and getting fried?

[crimson inlet]

both fried and electrified

[fluid fog]

Almost Gas Chamber KEKW

[atomic swan]

How did you even...

[fluid fog]

we do little throwback War crimes

[dark furnace]

try using pipe spliter, it looks like a jail

[atomic swan]

PFFT–

[high orbit]

came back and now my factories are doing good thanks again for these they worked great

[vapid granite]

Wow i actually used up my entire space

[atomic swan]

Holy smokes...

What the Catèllo doing?

[dawn flax]

mine

[shut rover]

I guess water pipe is only limited to two outlets to make sure everything is going great

[atomic swan]

Oh my word, Ena...

[dark furnace]

empty outpost

[atomic swan]

That is a jumbled mess of machines. Dear god.

[dawn flax]

correct

[dawn flax]

and it's filled to the capped 512 unit

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-more-gif-23888098

[crimson inlet]

mine

[dark furnace]

i moved my xiranite productions to outpost to ease the loading speed when I login

[atomic swan]

Saw that reference coming 🤣

[dawn flax]

the outpost is completely empty

[shut rover]

I haven't fully redo my factory yet

Still gotta make components

[wispy grove]

once the HC battery releases, all forges will go to the outpost

[dark furnace]

all forges go to the stash first

[atomic swan]

I'm kinda temped to just set up a full Xiranite Depot line straight down the middle once I max out my AO outside of Wuling City.

[shut rover]

They would eventually have to use a different recipe than condensed powder surely

[spark hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482690912416174145

Try this

[dark furnace]

bet if we need to redo factory again in 1.2?

[pulsar cypress]

Glad to know they're working.. ^-^)b

[wispy grove]

5 condensed

[atomic swan]

But I am gonna need a SERIOUS amount of ore to just produce all the stuff I need.

[wispy grove]

2 ferrium

3 xiranite

[spark hedge]

55 ferrium/min, 2.75 syringe C/min

[atomic swan]

That's barely keeping up, Jin.

[arctic sluice]

why is the theoretical data saying im using more than i make. i dont have any outputs that would suggest that

[shut rover]

Thats if we have new ores

[atomic swan]

Or more Ore Veins.

[dark furnace]

my factory looks so ass looking from the platform

[shut rover]

Or more batteries

[coral orchid]

Sorry just reading myself got tagged here.

If you all want, I have newer update of Xiranite Factory with at least 60/mins yield guaranteed
Sadly It's ASIA server only

I have 2 versions
1st : Endfield 1.0 version (Wuling Tree Tech 1)
2nd : Endfield 1.1 Version (Wuling Tree Tech 2)

[atomic swan]

If they add HC Wuling Batteries, that's gonna be rough.

[dark furnace]

there's even a relay line running across the view

[shut rover]

12 syr and 18 batts is gonna be hell if we dont get another outpost

[atomic swan]

True.

[arctic sluice]

nah in the valley is just dense originium powder

[silent umbra]

death box

now this is farming

[atomic swan]

I've only got 950 power going for me in Wuling, and I was looking for a way to mass produce Xiranite for the Depots and all that jazz. Thankfully, I did find a solution on my own.

[dark furnace]

looks like you have component production line turned on but not feeding anything into them?

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/that-sounds-right-yep-that-sounds-right-sounds-about-right-yeah-thats-right-therussianbadger-gif-10088743251312362689

[upper fiber]

in theory, you can 60/min, but you only use 30/min for cuprium component, that's what it told you

[arctic sluice]

oh huh. lemme check again

[crimson inlet]

stereotypes in endfield AIC factory:

• US/EU makes multiple bluerints for a "make everything" factory.
• ASIA makes simple or mind bending blueprints that are designed to be changed by the user.

[atomic swan]

Oopu, I hate how that's true, because I have 8 Blueprints saved on my Notepad for misc. crap.

[dark furnace]

As Asian I prefer module by module BPs, instead of compact ones that janks everything in it

[crimson inlet]

same, I'm both asian and I made by modules instead of a singular block

[indigo orbit]

i got a problem with not having enough sewage for my batteries

[atomic swan]

I've never even played Satisfactory before, so going into the factory bit for Endfield was me being completely blind and not knowing what to do.

[pulsar willow]

I think I have enough power for now.

[pulsar cypress]

Theory count non active facility also..
Any facility u place that didn't use add to the number.

[indigo orbit]

my cuprium depot is full so it can't make more sewage

[shut rover]

I think i have a few of those for condensed ori

[atomic swan]

I literally suffered a power shortage 3 times.

[arctic sluice]

asia makes eldritch beings or computer PCB

[arctic sluice]

yea im gonna check xd

[coral orchid]

Well I just use method that's using HC Valley Battery surplus from Valley IV directly into Wuling Regions
(I think it's around 4-5k, also already calculated it in the ideal condition and exact value, at least 2 HC Valley battery is usable in Wuling and you still having some saving)

[indigo orbit]

how do you get 120/min sewage with the xiranite limits we have?

[crimson inlet]

I have some blueprints for a V4 loop plant and a Wuling loop plant, both of them have 2 variants xD

[indigo orbit]

is there a way to void cuprium extra?

[shut rover]

You should be using all of your cuprium for yazhen a no?

[indigo orbit]

ah ok i hadnt gotten around to that

[atomic swan]

I just found the Seed and Planting loop recently.

[coral orchid]

I have 240/mins sewage here sadly

[atomic swan]

Yikes.

[nova osprey]

how do you have 240 sewage?

[indigo orbit]

well i use water treatments on the outputs of the solid xircon sewage

[pulsar willow]

What

[upper fiber]

you can make cuprium powder or bottle

[crimson inlet]

V4a is just plants, V4b has a shredder, V4b2 is for sandleaf.

Wu1 is plants, Wu2 has a shredder

[indigo orbit]

but yeah it seems like regularly logging in to sell the excess cuprium stuff is the way

yazhen stuff and whatnot

[indigo orbit]

also yeah idg this

should be 120/min sewage from cuprium and 60/min from xircon

wheres the last 60 from

[atomic swan]

I'm just stocking up cash to get my Core AIC fully expanded. That way, I can make just about anything.

[upper fiber]

idk why people can excess of cuprium, did you not making yazhenA or jincao tea

[indigo orbit]

i haven't gotten around to that

[pulsar willow]

Oh you probably placed 8 curpium refineries...

[atomic swan]

Though it's gonna be REALLY expensive both material and power wise. I can already see it going to 3K and just BARELY keeping up.

[pulsar willow]

Show us your cuprium usage

[coral orchid]

I am using Filling and Extracting
60/mins transfered into bottle and the bottle transfered into another region PAC

[pulsar willow]

Huh

[crimson inlet]

the damn sewage bottler

[atomic swan]

Oh, you're using the Regional Transfer?

[shut rover]

Did you know you can connect two banks to one packaging unit? Crazy i know

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1236980670081929247.png?quality=lossless&name=Clueless&size=48

[coral orchid]

From Core to Sub

so at least I get 60/mins from there

[atomic swan]

Ah, I see.

[pulsar willow]

Wdym two banks

[atomic swan]

Thermal Banks, he means.

[atomic swan]

And yeah, it technically does work.

[indigo orbit]

you can connect 4

[shut rover]

You could max fill two power bank from just one packaging if you know how to do it

[pulsar willow]

He is not correct then, you can connect 4))

[indigo orbit]

its 1 battery/10 seconds and power banks use them at 1 battery/40 seconds

[shut rover]

Risky but its there

[indigo orbit]

its 0 risk

multiply the rates man

[atomic swan]

Honestly, it's crazy smart to connect them right to the Packaging.

At least to keep some power going temporarily.

[crimson inlet]

that's why we have an option for depot or packaging unit in DIGE

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-15025911402078588721

[vapid granite]

How this is normal right, i only have 4 currium outputs on rn

[shut rover]

Make sure to time their consumption to avoid one unfill bank and use long belts to ensure filling with stash somewhere behind the long belts

[atomic swan]

Exactly.

[subtle finch]

my combo farm is complete

[atomic swan]

I kinda did that with my power setup in V4.

[pulsar willow]

You accidentally chose raw cuprium ore instead of refined cuprium somewhere. Then it clogged up and stopped using it.

[crimson inlet]

Me when I see something I can optimize for 0.3 second less of power use:

[fluid fog]

that's normal, there is one extra building is not working.

[atomic swan]

Two belts connecting to a stash, two sent to Banks.

[fluid fog]

Theoretical Data isn't much a problem, Current Data is more important.

[atomic swan]

Right. I never pay attention to Theoretical Data anyway.

[crimson inlet]

"modularity"

[atomic swan]

I just focus on current data.

[shut rover]

Why is the loader isn't connected

[atomic swan]

I'm assuming that dark green liquid is contaminated water that's going through a Crucible?

[crimson inlet]

its an old SS, I've already fixed it

[shut rover]

Oh

[crimson inlet]

mobile control is hard

it overshoots a lot

when dragging belts

[pulsar cypress]

Mobile player builder.. °-°)9

[upper fiber]

zoom in first

[atomic swan]

Nah, I have the same issue on controller. Half the time, I overshoot on belts.

[shut rover]

Its even worse when your tab os isn't even a tab os

[pulsar cypress]

Editing factory is real pain.. XD

[lofty chasm]

how the heck do I start the wuling aic bro 😭
i just finished up the story but ion got shit to begin the factory

[crimson inlet]

Mobile players, RISE

[atomic swan]

Making the factory is the fun part. It's EDITING the blooming thing which is a pain in the rear.

[crimson inlet]

what's a tab os?

[coral orchid]

My Yazhen Syringe A and then the sewage management in Core AIC

[crimson inlet]

editing pipes is a hassle because you can easily forget which goes which

[atomic swan]

Oh, easily.

[crimson inlet]

I have short term memory loss

[atomic swan]

I have that trouble with belts too sometimes.

[shut rover]

Tablet operating system

[coral orchid]

My Sub AIC (Already the most compact way)

[atomic swan]

Oh my lord...

[crimson inlet]

wait, it confuses your screen margins when your phone is dectected as a tablet!?

[atomic swan]

That Sub-PAC is suffering, I swear

[crimson inlet]

the shaders is carrying so hard in this pic...

[shut rover]

Its a tablet, but the os isn't tablet configured

[vapid granite]

im so proud of myself

[pulsar willow]

True, imagine navigating through this

[atomic swan]

Impossible.

[subtle finch]

it looks deep fried

[coral orchid]

the bottom part

[crimson inlet]

ohhh...

[shut rover]

So it messes up the screen ratio

[crimson inlet]

I would never make something like this

[atomic swan]

The bottom looks just as worse as the top

[crimson inlet]

damn, that's like opening a tab in Firefox mobile and having to deal with shitty screen ratio

[pulsar willow]

I also have a giant free space at one of the sides...

[crimson inlet]

I have one too dawg

but its multiple

[shut rover]

Unfortunately its all i have until i can get a new phone next month

[atomic swan]

Funny enough, I made my Core AIC in V4 so compact with the Depot Bus that I completely neglected the left side of it.

And I didn't even move the PAC either.

[pulsar cypress]

All in Aic.. XD

[pulsar willow]

Outdated, but the look is more or less the same.

[shut rover]

How did you even get up there

[atomic swan]

Rin, why does your empty space look like a slot for a Component in repairing the robots?

[pulsar cypress]

Got miracle zip line from others..

[pulsar willow]

Exploits and ziplines

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/dear-god-soldier-tf2-soldier-tf2-gif-7977085984093123408

[atomic swan]

I saw a Zipline on top of the Power Plateau once in V4 like 2 weeks ago.

[pulsar cypress]

Its a highway from bridge to the AIC.. XD

[atomic swan]

I don't know HOW someone got on top of the bloomin' thing, but they did.

[coral orchid]

Meanwhile at my Valley IV Sub AIC, 3 of them almost identical

[atomic swan]

Meanwhile mine are all different

[storm swift]

are the reactor crucibles outputting at slightly under the pace of 1 fluid/2s or something?

[pulsar cypress]

Me once see a zip right at the very top of valley 4 last boss super tall gatewall thing..

Dunno how they got to the top of it..

[atomic swan]

No Sub-PAC is the same, and the Main PAC is just a jumbled mess.

[pulsar cypress]

V4 subs is all buckA facilities.. XD
Ig everyone same..

[atomic swan]

What the heck? How did someone even get up THERE?

[crimson inlet]

damn

[pulsar cypress]

Dont understand myself..

[pulsar willow]

2 of mine are empty and third is only half-empty.

[atomic swan]

Some people, dude... They are way too talented in testing the borders.

[crimson inlet]

I like how we left v4 when we get to wuling

[atomic swan]

I still go back to V4.

[shut rover]

Only one is filled with two buck a for me

[upper fiber]

and how we left wuling when we get to new area

[pulsar willow]

Maybe I should try fitting 1 buck capsule and 1 battery production to each of the outposts.

[coral orchid]

mine here at core

[atomic swan]

My Main PAC is just building miscellaneous stuff and keeping my supply updated.

I also still got a Cryston Component machine that I don't need anymore since I now got better gear.

[upper fiber]

man it would be so annoying if the sewage issue not fixed before new area out, have to maintain 2 area is too much

[atomic swan]

As soon as I got to Xiranite, Cryston became irrelevant.

[pulsar willow]

Yeah it worked for me while I was making it through the main quest and then I kinda had 80K of them...

[atomic swan]

Geez, Zhatet... How did you get THAT much?

[coral orchid]

My Valley IV Core AIC :

• HC Valley Baterry 18/mins
• Bomb maker
• Meds C-Grade 240/mins yield

Some additionals were made in sub AIC as usual
20/mins Origocrust

Still having 5k HC Valley IV battery surplus each day

[pulsar willow]

I just played the game and didn't change my factory until much later

The beauty of not looking up any guides

[upper fiber]

what guide, just bp them

[atomic swan]

Oh, I stopped making bombs after I hit the hard limit.

[pulsar willow]

Same thing, never used other people's blueprints.

[coral orchid]

Nah, I just make the bomb as I wanted it

[atomic swan]

I have 80K bombs sitting in my V4 Depot.

[coral orchid]

let's say 5k

[pulsar willow]

I've got 15K, I think I am set for a long time. I can always make more.

[atomic swan]

80K = infinite bombs

[coral orchid]

Making own Factory is more satisfying rather than copying others directly

[atomic swan]

And if I ever get sick of making Cryston Components, I can swap that out for an IE Machine.

[vestal tiger]

12 min battery and 6/min syringe a
Everything is there, no subpac

Need to be cleaned up abit

[atomic swan]

I've only had to use ONE guide and it was simply for making the Xiranite Components.

[vestal tiger]

I wish the aic occupied an even number of tiles so I can make it perfectly center

[coral orchid]

Not original Xiranite?

[atomic swan]

Everything else in my PACs in V4, I built singlehandedly.

Well, I WAS gonna make the normal Xiranite, but I decided to leave that to make in a smaller area.

So I'm making both Components and the normal Xiranite at the same time without running low.

[coral orchid]

I make this myself

120/mins Xiranite

[vestal tiger]

How symmetrical

[atomic swan]

Wait, where'd you move the PAC? Is it in the upper corner?

[wispy grove]

yo

[pulsar willow]

Question. Why do you need a protocol stash in between grinding units and sandleaf shredders? Could be just 2 belts from shredder.

If it's just because it looks nicer - I understand

[hollow crest]

You don't stash the 3rd Sandleaf powder?

[paper magnet]

I built this AIC brick by brick

[coral orchid]

1st one : Symetrical
2nd one : If you have Xiranite overflow in base, you still have some spare there

[subtle finch]

my wideboy design

[hollow crest]

I stash all of the 3rd Sandleaf to avoid wasting it, the SC battery production requires 4 Sandleaf powder, the spare Sandleaf from xiranite can be directed to this one

[atomic swan]

What the hell, Hikarin?

That is an absolute MESS.

[pulsar willow]

Huh, didn't think of that. I do, but not in that fashion.

[lapis crane]

is this 2 treatment enough for component clogging proof sewage pipeline?

2/s pipe with 2/2s input and same 2/2s output in case overflow

[paper magnet]

And yet you still need 1 more planter to hit 12/min batteries

Kinda annoying

[hollow crest]

Yea there's spare 2 lines of powder in mine too

[pulsar willow]

The right battery lane isn't connected

Well it kinda is but it doesn't look good

[lapis crane]

it is intentional symmetrical design

[hollow crest]

Treatment at the beginning of cuprium refine right?

[pulsar willow]

It isn't though? You have 2 belts sticking out from the right battery production, while on the left you have only 1

[hollow crest]

Was it sth like this?

[lapis crane]

yeah
and also below that using double xiranite line since it will run 120/120 until lower sewage usage from components usage
so store excess xiranite

[hollow crest]

I tested this btw, absolutely wrecked my offline production

[viscid plover]

[hollow crest]

My offline production when I tested that

[dull shard]

are there bodies of water we can convert to jincao fluid? that is, near the core AIC in wuling

[viscid plover]

So it's a no go

[subtle finch]

the 2x2 splitter/converger looks sus

[lapis crane]

this is sewage loop
prioritizing getting sewage to crucible until overflow

this was old pic before making actual overflow proof loop with 2 treatment units

[hollow crest]

Here's my current setup, none of treatment at beginning setup, but rather fluid tank at the beginning of sewage line

Offline looks decent

[paper magnet]

My brain is too small for splitting sewage so I just had each sewage line get its own treatment

I guess that's why my energy cost exploded but we don't talk about that

[coral orchid]

True
If we wasting too much Sandleaf powder, we might as well as wasting more on Power usage as well
It's quite scary

[willow tundra]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1ZrwQzAEAG/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=a3e3c7bce3b0f3c70401b39f5d429933

[slate plume]

is this a safe anti clogging setup

[viscid plover]

Same, also as predicted yesterday I said offline calculation would go bonkers for them and apparently it did

[hollow crest]

Need more ppl to test it's offline capabilities first

[subtle finch]

how are you getting 3/min C?

[hollow crest]

From my test it's a no go, same principle of sewage loop and treatment at beginning

[hollow crest]

Regional transfer

[subtle finch]

is that the best use of metatransfer?

[lapis crane]

yeah not sure offline capability if i also activate component system

[hollow crest]

Some ppl use to make HC batteries, so perhaps

[ruby sorrel]

hmm my 100% xircon line is suffering offline..... maybe you can't multitask reactors offline cus those liquid xiranites are also making yazhen solution

[slate plume]

ye

[ruby sorrel]

these reactors are just underproducing with offline calcs

[lapis crane]

I will try to activate component and let it run a bit if cuprium production sore

anti clog system should be fine in paper
but need real test

[slate plume]

i need a solution for this clogging shit

😪

[coral orchid]

SC Wuling unstable for 12/mins

[sand pivot]

does anyone have a modular SC battery bp please? just the dense orig and xircon part?

6/min

I need to go to bed and I can't find a bp anywhere in the bp channel

[lapis crane]

I tried to unclog waste using first pic

lower sewage transfer to second batch which clogged xiranite direct line to 105/120

idk if this fix will help (second one)

[wispy grove]

i got u😌

[paper magnet]

Idk, the system blueprint is pretty modular

[sand pivot]

ty ty 🙌

[marble yarrow]

11/min sc anti clog

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541796977967289/1483090075490193458/Endfield_2026-03-16_21-10-02.mp4?ex=69bb4d04&is=69b9fb84&hm=22bfb7ababc273f6fca94ba7c2f7a4ae806290890f9384007a6b6bbbc54d6bed&

[wispy grove]

it makes bottles tho, is that fine?

[lapis crane]

i need one that swappable without clog

[sand pivot]

can you just copy the part with the dense orig and xircom (like unselect the bottles production part) please?

if it's too much work I can just remove them on my end though

I will finish my production line tomorrow but I have been at this for like 5h now 💀

[lapis crane]

see u again in 6 hours

[subtle finch]

genuinely don't know why are people clogging

[hollow crest]

Yea seems like fluid tanks alone is not consistent enough, but it's massively improvement to the sewage clog issue, and stable xiranite production for me. This chart was when I was using pipe only

Left: raw pipes, 0 conduit used
Right: conduit, but with fluid tank before and after inlet, outlet

[slate plume]

ty

[hollow crest]

Left side is clogging when I'm offline for too long also

[finite anvil]

oh wow so is the xircon/sewage clogging a common issue? im new here

[hazy wharf]

Holy
i hope there is a use case

[finite anvil]

wanted to ask why is this happening

[hollow crest]

Yea offline calc is bugged or sth we don't really know why

I theorized it was some sort of conduit bug but it wasnt

[wispy grove]

Asia Code: EFO013o7150381auA0579

[finite anvil]

i purposely left a bit of xircon surplus (100-200) and left offline, and it always goes to 0

[wispy grove]

I only removed the moulding

[sand pivot]

ty ty!

[wispy grove]

yes its a common issue

[sand pivot]

finally I can sleep

[hollow crest]

Band aid solution I can find atm is to spam fluid tank on your builds

[slate plume]

big issue

[vapid granite]

When its perfectly symmetrical

[wispy grove]

nu uh

just joking you can sleep

[hollow crest]

I use conduit for sewage and I put tanks before and after it lol

[finite anvil]

lmfao

[wispy grove]

just dont forget to open up your sewage faucet once u wake up

[vapid granite]

Its still entering evently

[wispy grove]

w8 im using asia bp tho

are u asia server?

[coral orchid]

Clogging when offline is so weird tbh

[sand pivot]

yeah I am on my asian account

[wispy grove]

youre using a looping sewage if thats the case

[slate plume]

so stupid with this sewage build up bs

[wispy grove]

oh okay then good luck

[hollow crest]

yea imma have tons of sewage bottle

[sand pivot]

tysm though!

[wispy grove]

youre welcome

[coral orchid]

Looping Sewage is that bad?

[wispy grove]

nope

[finite anvil]

is looping sewage bad

i thoguht i was being clever

[wispy grove]

its good

looping or not, sewage builds up anways

[coral orchid]

but?

[hollow crest]

this is my current one, 2 lines of sewage from cup into conduit, then conduit into tank here, then tank split into 2 crucible, last sewage from xircon gets treated

[wispy grove]

xiranite water builds up on the looping side

[hollow crest]

looks mad ugly and space inefficient, but no more clog

[finite anvil]

yea here's mine

[hollow crest]

I was debating whether or not I want to put the xiranite liquid into a tank lmao, seems like alot of work just to combat a bug 🥀

[finite anvil]

oh i just remembered something

[coral orchid]

So basically to put it up
It's better to have fresh Sewage rather than looping right?

[wispy grove]

if you dont mind xiranite clogging, its fine

[finite anvil]

i once merged two sewage lines into one, and then split it into two water treatments
this, for some reason, overloads the water treatments as if there's THREE lines of sewage coming

[wispy grove]

the sewage clogging is more problematic

yup thats what happens online

[wispy grove]

which left u mean?

[atomic fiber]

online and offline speed comparison.

belt online = splitter online > splitter offline > belt offline

can someone help me test it too

[hollow crest]

oh this is my right chart setup

dont have pic for my left chart setup cuz it was so ugly, it was all pipes

[atomic fiber]

depend... space wise it's smaller. but doing it like that won't give you enough sewage for 1 SC battery (lacking sawage by small fraction)

[finite anvil]

wait so i don't understand, if there's too much sewage coming in, why does this halt production?

[finite anvil]

yeah i think i'll stop doing it

[wispy grove]

crucibles

[atomic fiber]

which production got halted? the cuprium refiner?

[coral orchid]

So, what is the better solution then? Did you have some insight?

[hollow crest]

noone understands this bug

[coral orchid]

The game bug is quite crazy

[finite anvil]

oops wrong reply

[vapid granite]

QUICK HOW MANY ORIGINIUM ORE OUTPUTS CAN WE HAVE IN WULING

[hollow crest]

we only know that when go online, the sewage is being clogged and not fully utilized by the crucible

[wispy grove]

make a pipe branch to treatment facility before reaching to the crucibles

[hollow crest]

so if anything it's a crucible bug

[wispy grove]

480

[vapid granite]

NO, DEPOT OUTS

[wispy grove]

but only use it to clear the clog

[wispy grove]

16

[vapid granite]

Cool, im at 14 whew

[finite anvil]

how the fuck did i do this

[vapid granite]

I didnt really need it quickly just that answers are faster when you lie

[coral orchid]

It's likely that your Originium Ore is clogging because getting maxed out

[finite anvil]

oh nvm its the xircon/sewage thing again

[subtle finch]

sewage clog = cuprium refinement clog = no cuprium parts = battery production halt = xircon clog

[wispy grove]

domino effect

[pulsar cypress]

*it all always the sewage fault.. Blame all to sewage.. XD

[wispy grove]

yazhen also gets affected

[finite anvil]

wait why does this affect the cuprium stuff

[coral orchid]

480/mins yield is stable when you can output with 16 depots (30/mins each depot without throttling it)

[finite anvil]

looks ok to me?

[hollow crest]

it should not affect battery cuz there's no cuprium thing inside battery recipe

only sewage

[atomic fiber]

it's actually belt speed. the bug actually stem from the belt.

it's like this. because belt speed isn't actually 0.5/sec on offline. this mean:

1. you sawage output from cuprium refiner isn't exactly 0.5/sec, because your belt didn't give 0.5/sec of cuprium ore
2. your Xiranite going to the crucible also actually isn't at 0.5/sec speed when going in the crucible

[finite anvil]

yeah, sewage going out is fine i think?

[subtle finch]

cuprium refinement cant proceed because sewage has nowhere to go. the question is why sewage clog halts production

[vapid granite]

i have successfully making LC and SC batteries in wuling, yahzen lv2, and Curprium components

Unfortunately i had to shill my Yahzen production to rpdocued SC batteries better by cuttting half curprium on batteries parts but thats ok

[pulsar cypress]

Conduit input full - refining clogged coz sewage can't be produced..

[finite anvil]

ok nvm im dumb, i screenshotted the one connected to a water treatment

[wispy grove]

the clogging starts in the crucible

[finite anvil]

yeah the one connected to xircon is clogged

[finite anvil]

i think it starts here?

[wispy grove]

ones that fills up, the refinery next

[finite anvil]

oh

ok

[wispy grove]

youre crucible i already full then

[finite anvil]

yea it is

[wispy grove]

now that is full you cant make cuprium anymore

thats why your cuprium ore reached 50

[pulsar cypress]

Curcilbe full = filled the outlet to full
Outlet full = inlet full..
Rip refining coz inlet full..
XD

[finite anvil]

yep

[distant bear]

MF go down

[atomic fiber]

Just do some split into the treatment

[wispy grove]

solution:drain the sewage using treatment

the problem is its a manual drain

[atomic fiber]

this is auto drain

[hot nymph]

Do you guys have a blueprint for beginners?
Like all rounder production till lvl 15

[atomic fiber]

i recommend you to actually learn the factory... because at wuling you do need some factory knowledge

[wispy grove]

too much drain will halt your battery production, were still figuring out how to make an auto drain

[atomic fiber]

bro i just post one

[hallow monolith]

is there something glitched with my game? How am I yeidling 65 cuprium parts when im only consuming 60 cuprium ore for part creation?

[hot nymph]

Yeah i know , i just wanna make from a proper layout

[coral orchid]

In 11/mins SC Wuling battery, when offline, which one that's creating a bug actually?

[finite anvil]

https://talospioneers.com/

[atomic fiber]

the belt

[wispy grove]

yours cannot be an auto drain. thats too much sewage going in to your treatment

[reef crescent]

so I have excess ori right now, am I suppose to do something with it in wuling?

[wispy grove]

yours are 1 every 7 secs

mine is every 11 and i ran out of sewage

[finite anvil]

yeah i was looking at that bp, isnt that just splitting the sewage into two?

therefore less sewage input for xircon?

[atomic fiber]

that is auto it's cap the sewage in the crucible. and immediately go to the treatment. tested on online and offline

[wispy grove]

hows your sewage offline

[atomic fiber]

usually more easily noticeable on the sewage

[atomic fiber]

it's working good. you can try my post if you don't believe me.

[distant bear]

Can't relate 🔥

[atomic fiber]

you can input 1/min sawage. while the crucible only need 0.5/min sawage for example.

[finite anvil]

two SC batteries should use up all the originium

[distant bear]

It does yeah

[wispy grove]

youre using looping sewage right?

[atomic fiber]

it's work with loop and without loop

[nova quest]

Guys. Ferrium ore at WuLing is really limited isn't it?

[distant bear]

Yes but actually no

[wispy grove]

let me see your crucible

[coral orchid]

So what is your solution to fix or fight the offline bug?

[nova quest]

I got not enough of ferrium ore..

[subtle finch]

just 1 tank as cache should be enough.
everything can also clog back then even if you have 100% efficient design, but 500unit wont fill up in a day unless there's an actual issue with your design

[finite anvil]

yes

[atomic fiber]

capping and switch priority. like this

[finite anvil]

this setup automatically prioritizes the crucible or smth?

[atomic fiber]

@coral orchid
as you can see there is so much sewage going to the crucible. this will cap the crucible with sewage.

after the crucible is capped. the excess of the sewage will go to the treatment

[finite anvil]

this means you gotta dump the cache everyday?

[atomic fiber]

yes it's prioritized the crucible. after the crucible is full. the sewage go to the treatment

[subtle finch]

yeah, just delete and replace. if you're paranoid, make a chain of fluid tanks as a blueprint

[fervent spoke]

Looks like 0.25/s go to the treatment until the crucible clogs if you send in 2/s sewage. Do you have 1 or two water treatment units at the end ?

[coral orchid]

Like this?

[nova quest]

Btw, don't mind I ask how do I increase the regional development of Valley?

[finite anvil]

is the zero distance from converger to crucible required?

[atomic fiber]

you should only put 1.5/min sewage max for this yeah.

[atomic fiber]

no. you input it on the wrong pipe. also you need pipe to the treatment

[atomic fiber]

no

[wispy grove]

its funny that we are having this issue until the devs fix it

[subtle finch]

outpost upgrade gives the most. there's a ui that shows you what contributes for exp. like rigging mining beds, upgrading depot node, the owls, the rabbit npc

[atomic fiber]

it's just what i believe but... this is actually 1.0 belt speed bug. it's very old bug, i doubt they will fix it any time soon

[nova quest]

I'm at 11. I pretty sure I did alot already.. I need to lvl up to 12 so I can do more regional transfer from valley to wuling

[coral orchid]

In my case, sewage is normal
Even Liquid Xiranite is normal too
Nothing clogged here
But when offline, suddenly the SC Wuling clogged to 11/mins but everything looks normal

[nova quest]

What's you guys regional level at for valley?

[fluid fog]

Its really hard to fix it since its relation of Tick speed,

When I host a Factorio Server, I always tweak the server configuration to get the exact amount of tick needed.

[atomic fiber]

then you don't need that pipe setup.

i can explain why your is at 11/min. but unfortunately there is no fix for this

[reef crescent]

Oh I found out the messed up part, my cuprium was being used too much so I didn't have enough funneling the xircon