aic-factory

[quick axle]

did new map give us more?

[pulsar willow]

Should say that you have ore deposits available

[pulsar willow]

Only cuprium

[rare moon]

Your map should tell you what you missed

[quick axle]

this?

[bright zodiac]

which PAC (base) position did you move recently?

bet its outpost, find that disconnected pylon

[pulsar willow]

Yes

[severe grove]

Yes then Gathering Tips.

[quick axle]

yeah i moved it while building kyo's megabase

but i swear i checked EVERY ore vein

[bright zodiac]

there , the cause of your issue

[pulsar willow]

Maybe some of your mining rigs aren't working. If that's the case you should see an exclamation mark near the ore deposit icon.

[bright zodiac]

it check the connection of the xiranite relay pylon of your PAC when you relog

so it might looks fine when you move it now, but it recheck when relog,

[quick axle]

im just gonna relog, maybe something fucked up

everything is saying its connected

[bright zodiac]

there is no way all powered and not even 480 yield (and you are at rdm lv9)

[quick axle]

i just want my 12 batteries and 6 syringes per minute man

[bright zodiac]

cmon, how hard it is, to click every mining area on map (to see if its powered or not)

[quick axle]

i did it like 3 times, im relogging now tho to see if maybe it was a server issue

[bright zodiac]

or....

dont tell me you just convert originium mining with hydro but bad ratio pump?

[vale cairn]

12 SC battery + 6 syringe A is enough to outpace the stocks right?

[severe grove]

Hmm I have the same idea.

[bright zodiac]

10.5 + 6

so you have 1.5 left for cup component

[pulsar willow]

I feel like you forgot some of the ore deposit nodes

[vale cairn]

Oh thanks. Is cuprium component needed for anything rn?

[bright zodiac]

but i did 9+6 anyway

im rushing 58K comp and turn it off forever

[quick axle]

is there a secret origium ore vein right here that i have to go out of bounds for?

[viscid plover]

i filled all outpost and region up to the brim with stash filled with xirang during 1.0 that's why i know

[bright zodiac]

honestly no, i just want to hoard 58K

[vale cairn]

Ah ye I left that running yesterday cuz no time to set up the rest, it's already 58k lol

[trail mirage]

new and improved

[bright zodiac]

for the sake of tsngtang, how cpuld you missed that

[rugged island]

Thinking about doing 1 sewage line like this

[quick axle]

i guess im an actual dumbass

[pulsar willow]

Yep that tracks (no offence)

[severe grove]

It's a cave.

[pulsar willow]

Nice nickname. What is your favorite sauce for sausages, oh great saucesage?

[severe grove]

I yearn for the sauce of the same color as the yellow on Endmin's collar.

[rugged island]

Ok here we go this should work just fine

[severe grove]

m u s t a r d

[nova lodge]

mustard sauce intensifies O.O

[pulsar willow]

So mustard?

[bright zodiac]

actually u missed it bcs there is no way to enter it, until you hit invisible illusion wall

(pay attention to green pointing light towards some wall cave)

[pulsar willow]

What skipping a tutorial does to endmins...

[bright zodiac]

nahh, probably skip fogged area bcs no way to reach it and then forget it FAR later in the game

forgot to revisit

very common tho

[rugged island]

ok now with all treatment facilities placed

[pulsar willow]

Relatable

[trail mirage]

need 10

[rugged island]

10 treatment facilities?

[trail mirage]

ye

[rugged island]

If so I'll just swap those over to inlets

[trail mirage]

wait

no reactors

[rugged island]

and treat somewhere else

[bright zodiac]

im sorry to inform you

that your 4cuprium is not in a good ratio

[rugged island]

yea thats 1 module

I'm gonna dupe it now to get 10

[rugged island]

ummm how so?

[trail mirage]

however you do need 4 treament tho

[rugged island]

whe'res the extra 1 from

2 inert 1 sewage no?

[undone ether]

You can make Xircon w/ only 2 water treaments

[bright zodiac]

wait is that 2 converge into 4split?

well, definitely it will work, later.... until 1st and 2nd are clogged

[rugged island]

I'm aware but I chose not to

[trail mirage]

2 from 4 cupium sewage and 2 for 4 inert xircon

[bright zodiac]

then 3rd and 4th will get full ratio

[rugged island]

yeap

[severe grove]

Meet my 6/min Yazhen Syringe [A] setup. LOL

[rugged island]

I'm letting it clog I don't mind to save space

[trail mirage]

uglyyy

[rugged island]

I know I can also slot 1 yazen prod into the xircon prod

[vernal fjord]

Love getting basic tips like "Your input is higher then your output, try building more factories for better production effeciency" when ive made this monstrosity

[rugged island]

I'll think about doing that

[undone ether]

If a refiner's sewage clogs while producing Cuprium; it cant produce Cuprium.

[trail mirage]

now there are pipes on top of depot buses :d

[bright zodiac]

no, xircon need 3

even if you loop back sewage.

it means you still have to treat the sewage from cuprium, no matter how u count it, a 30/m xircon need "3"

[pulsar willow]

I make my yazhen mixture in the same reactors that make liquid xiranite, saves me 100 energy.

[vernal fjord]

How do you get screenshots like that?

[ruby sorrel]

reactor crucibles are cursed smh

[trail mirage]

you stitch them up

[ruby sorrel]

they run slower offline or sth

[bright zodiac]

damn photoshop

[pulsar willow]

Wdym, what's the issue?

[trail mirage]

i used google drawings bec idk how to use ps either

[undone ether]

not really. You run 1 line of sewage from cuprium refinery, 2 lines of inert off to two Water treatment plants, and run the final sewage line back into the line to recycle the sewage 2 treatments for 1 Xircon at full rate

[ruby sorrel]

my 3/4 line has complete backed up the shredder despite shredder being fed 3/4 ferrium

[bright zodiac]

i have

120/120yield (cuprium) theoretical
and
120yield / 121usage on the field

it doesnt make any sense

[lusty violet]

everything is cursed offline

[severe grove]

Oripathy is a curse.

[bright zodiac]

yea some ppl said offline online issue in some production

[ruby sorrel]

and my offline originium usage dropped from 472.5 to ~450

[undone ether]

Everything runs slower when offline. I didnt notice any issue before the 1.1 update but it feels like something broke

[ruby sorrel]

offline reactors are massively cursed

[lusty violet]

been happening since 1.0

[rugged island]

welp fully built

Now I just need to make seringes on the other side so the sewage produciton doesent end

[nova lodge]

need to strip and rebuild my whole base later.

[severe grove]

I wonder if we'll be getting another Sub-PAC next version patch?

[nova lodge]

conduit is such a godsend for clean builds

[bright zodiac]

i also notice it became 119, then 121

so yeah, "slightlyyyyy but surely Losing bit cuprium" over time

[severe grove]

MORE SUB-PACs

[rugged island]

we should

[severe grove]

[rugged island]

if its like valley 4

[bright zodiac]

errrr.....
pls elaborate again

[rugged island]

cause its AIC
Sub
Nothing
Sub
Nothing
Sub

[lusty violet]

it was confirmed in devlog so yea

[severe grove]

LET'S GOOOO

[pulsar willow]

Will we even need it though? I have 3 buck capsules and 2 battery productions on my main base in Valley IV + 2 empty outposts, and one that is like only 30% full?

Those 30% are another battery production.

[lusty violet]

prepare yourselves for hc wuling bat

[undone ether]

1 Sewage input from Cuprium refinery that goes to both Reactors that're making Xircon Effluent.
2 Water Treatment plants; 1 for each Inert line.
1 sewage input from the final reactor that's making Xircon led back into the system.
This way you get 2 Sewage every two seconds to fill both Xircon Effluent reactors

[severe grove]

Why settle for less when you can have more? Remember our motto. The factory must grow.

[pulsar willow]

Anything that justifies me rebuilding my factory only makes me want to do it more.

[bright zodiac]

like... you know

• 2cuprium sewage to crucible (inert)
• 2inert to treatment
• final crucible sewage to ????

[bright zodiac]

[undone ether]

You dont need 2 sewage inputs from cuprium for 1 xircon

[bright zodiac]

2sewage to fill both?

will that cause overflow?

[pulsar willow]

The factory must grow, yes, but it can't grow in my case. I've hit a structure limit in my Wuling AIC.

[bright zodiac]

bcs inert getting more sewage than it should

[undone ether]

it sends 1 to the left reactor, then 1 to the right through the splitter

[ruby sorrel]

I guess since my sewage is being silly I should just shove more sewage back into effluent instead of doing a nice ratio

maybe it's cus stuff is evaporating in the pipes while offline

[viscid plover]

DAMN that's crazy

[pulsar willow]

Holy pipe intersection abomination!

[severe grove]

What happened to the corners?

[ruby sorrel]

it should be a nice 2/3:1/3 split

[undone ether]

I think your belts drop some things

[ruby sorrel]

but the game can't seem to calculate that properly

hopefully clearing the backed up ferrium like this will get me most of the missing production from being offline

[viscid plover]

i wish i knew, need mechanics in to fix stuff soon

[pulsar willow]

Were you... cutting some corners again... ha... ha-ha...

[severe grove]

Did Chen set those belts?

[viscid plover]

real good one

[ruby sorrel]

actually didn't ppl who were filling up the ponds say that some of the liquid vanishes after a while?

maybe it's some cursed liquid thing

[severe grove]

What 0 sanity does to an Endmin.

[pulsar willow]

Can we use 1 treatment facility to dispose of 2 different liquids that come in at half the speed?

[ruby sorrel]

you can do 2 separate recipes at full speed, but stuff has to come from the inputs

[pulsar willow]

What

[severe grove]

What if we can put Sewage in bottles and use them as throwable bio-grenades?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah shit's cursed

[pulsar willow]

Ah okay

English isn't my first language, the wording stumbled me for a second.

[bronze vector]

war criminal

[bronze vector]

u could always expect that

because maybe most of us dont even have english as first language

[severe grove]

Same here English is not my first language.

[pulsar willow]

Okay so I can use 1 water treatment facility to get rid of 15 sewage/min and 15 inert xircon/min, which saves me, what, 50 energy?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah 50

[pulsar willow]

Nice. More ziplines for me.

[ruby sorrel]

how do ppl have protocol capacity for more ziplines

maybe I should move all my mining pumps into jingyu and run pipes into wuling

[pulsar willow]

I don't even know how much protocol capacity I have left lol

Let me check

[gusty lake]

Hello guys I'm new , anyone can help me with an efficient blueprint ?

[severe grove]

Hi new.

[storm swift]

is anyone else experiencing slight inconsistent xircon output?

[spring yew]

I recently realized i have free will
So i just finished building up pipes extracting wotah from the teleport south east of Sky King Flats allll the way to the river north of Core AIC dumping wotah there

Would upload a video but no nitro

[hollow dock]

Yes things have been weird for me lately, not just xircon

[storm swift]

I've made sure all of my ratios are correct, but I don't understand why there's occasional dips

[bronze vector]

schematic issues

or input issues

[storm swift]

I feel like there's something weird going on with fluid transfering

[bright zodiac]

test pipe length, and probably input output not reaching the facility yet

like check the flow

[ruby sorrel]

for me I think some of my sewage in the loopback was evaporating

[paper magnet]

Frick I did I again

Started a clue exchange but didn't actually buy anything

[severe grove]

#1461542035617091681

[pulsar willow]

245/350, so I think I have enough? I haven't finished any of the sprinklers though, didn't see much use for the plants that you need to pick manually.

[hollow dock]

I went to V4 just because and I noticed all my production was down for no reason did any of you notice that

[gusty lake]

I have an issue with loading it

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I'm at 347 so... not much room left

[gusty lake]

It's been like this for over 30 mins

[spring yew]

I would've, but my base only missing a few tiny details i can't figure out
Idk how to send a tiny bit of liquid one way and the rest the other way 😔

[bright zodiac]

EU/Asia?
which BP u need?

[spring yew]

Otherwise it would make a steady 12/m battery 6/m syringe

[gusty lake]

I started the game 4 days ago and everything is clogged now i have no idea how to deal

European

[spring yew]

Wish we had co-op
I would've helped you

[bright zodiac]

dont worry about it, let me know whats the issue

[iron stratus]

we really need aic co-op

[spring yew]

Yesss
Be like the owner gives permission to the visitor to change AIC stuff or not

And the visitor can't take anything to their own inventory

Yknow

[bronze vector]

we need to change the blueprint export format

[iron stratus]

or to be able to craft facilities or not

[gusty lake]

I really have no idea , everything seems working perfectly but everything is clogged as well, so i said maybe if i get a blueprint it will be fixed

[bright zodiac]

@gusty lake like what you need right now? battery production? meds production? component production? or show us your base where and what is clogged

[iron stratus]

i dont know why they haven't added any meaningful co-op mechanics yet

[upper fiber]

maybe your item is full

[spring yew]

Depends on what you're making and what you're working on
Do you have screenshots of what's going on?

[gusty lake]

Basic blueprint for Valley Aic

[bright zodiac]

[gusty lake]

I'll login

[iron stratus]

what are your outpost levels and regional development

[bright zodiac]

basic? youll see something like

output > refine > depot

KEKKKKKKKKK

[spring yew]

Basic for what exactly? We need to know to help

[spring yew]

Take your time

[spring yew]

We all been there lmao

[gusty lake]

ohh so i need something specific to produce ? probably just meds and gear for now , i still struggle with enemies

[spring yew]

Gear might need you to progress a bit more to at least unlock Wuling
So I'd say blue batteries and some C meds

[bright zodiac]

ok.... so... you see

meds has C B A
gear has amethyst components, ferrium components, cryston components
battery also has 3 tier there, LC , SC and HC

[bright zodiac]

bet,

BET

not even wuling

[bronze vector]

before producing even more stuffs

you need to have sandleaf accessable

cus I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Sandleaf. I try to use Buckleaf. My Sandleaf produces more product. I try to use Jincao . My Sandleaf makes more carbon. I try to use wood. My Sandleaf makes more shit. I want to try Yazhen. It's still way more efficient to use Sandleaf. I want to use Citrene - It's still not the best. It grabs me by the throat. I farm for it. I plant for it. I give it my water. It isn't satisfied. I make 5 Sandleaf farms. "I don't need this many farms" It tells me. "Give me more water." It grabs my water pump and forces me to grow more Sandleaf in the farm. "You just need to funnel me more. I can be way more efficient with space." I can't try other plants, I don't have enough Sky Forges anyway. It grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." It grabs my originium and makes 10 planters and 5 seeders. It says "More water" There is no hint of sadness in its eyes. Nothing but pure, efficient space utilization. What a cruel world.

[spring yew]

Seems like probably full

[gusty lake]

I realised now that I'm still so begginer i don't understand anything you say guys XD

[iron stratus]

i would focus on getting to sc batteries first and manually craft firebuckle powder for meds, you can also craft purple gear at the same time

[spring yew]

That's alright, we're here to help

[bright zodiac]

good news, you are absolutely doing fine,

coz
you have MADE, components, and battery

good job

[gusty lake]

That's encouraging

[spring yew]

The battery isn't connected to anything tho
Neither output nor input

[gusty lake]

So i shouldn't worry about Aic for now ?

[upper fiber]

battery off though

[crimson inlet]

how can sandleaf produce more carbon

[bronze vector]

smelt them

[iron stratus]

from my experience you dont need to do anything in the aic factory until the marble aggelomorai fight, and you can get blue gear with components you find in breakable crates

[bright zodiac]

trust me, every BIG step, is coming from 1 simple step. you are doing good , dw

there are endmin that dont even know how it works and give up entirely at AIC

[bright zodiac]

could be fine to skip, the game will give you ENOUGH ferrium component and cryston component for like lv30-50 gear for whole party

[ruby sorrel]

wait I'm siphoning too much orig cubes to my other stuff that I can't actually keep up with boosted xircon production for catch up.....

[gusty lake]

Thank you guys , now i focus on story and quests and forget about Aic

[ruby sorrel]

this is so cursed

[spring yew]

I was stunned when i first realised we could make infinite sandleaf the very first time 😅
You're on the right path dw

[bright zodiac]

but u will need to produce stuff at base and sell stuff for stock bill money eventually and lv up BASE

[iron stratus]

once you unlock power plateau, put mining rigs on EVERYTHING and go back to them when your regional development level unlocks new nodes at mining sites (from unlocking/upgrading stock redistributors, depot nodes, and recycling stations, you can probably max all of that from just stock trading)

[ruby sorrel]

help I'm at facility limit again

[pulsar willow]

Do you make both xiranite and cuprium components?

[ruby sorrel]

yes

[spring yew]

Felt like i had unlocked the ultimate forbidden knowledge

[crimson inlet]

i immediately bolted into making every plant by looping them first time, I had to explain to a dude how it works

[rugged island]

Alright full xircon + yazhen A

[pulsar willow]

How much cuprium/originium do you give to the component lines?

[upper fiber]

that's why subpac exists

[spring yew]

facility limit? The 512 buildings?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah

I just wanted to put down a stash's worth of cubes so I can fix my offline problems smh

[spring yew]

If you can reduce the belt/pipe bridges do so
These count as 1 building too

[iron stratus]

2 lines of cuprium for cuprium components

[ruby sorrel]

pipes somehow count for <1

[bright zodiac]

best at 15/15

but i give 30/30, dont mind me, im rushing 58K and turn it off forever.
i am at 20K rn

[pulsar willow]

Should be half of the originium line and 1/4 of the cuprium if you are making both, if I remember correctly.

[ruby sorrel]

I can still place pipe splitters

but not a stash

[pulsar willow]

That is if you are using half of the ziranite belt.

[gusty lake]

Thanks again guys , i appreciate your help

[spring yew]

Yeah and their bridges
So like if you can rework stuff to make them not overlap and make bridges, it'll give you more limits

[spring yew]

No problemmm
We're always happy to help eachother

[pulsar willow]

Yeah I've built everything already, but thanks for your help anyway

[gusty lake]

That's refreshing I haven't seen a non toxic games community for a while now

[ruby sorrel]

idk I'm struggling to find a bridge I can get rid of without breaking 5 other things

since I already did this before

[spring yew]

Guys imma need help too
I need a step by step guide on how to send a little bit, like ⅛ of the fluid to the treatment machine here

[crimson inlet]

the best way to learn is to ask and experiment

[iron stratus]

splitters

[spring yew]

Trial and error until you master itt

[crimson inlet]

spam pipe splitters

I dont how much pipe splitters divide per split

[spring yew]

Yeah i know but like i been testing it and it's not working for me
So maybe if someone would tell me what to place and exactly where to place it?
I know it needs splitters and convergers but i can't figure it out

[iron stratus]

i hate this sub pac so much can you just let me delete it

[spring yew]

Valid ngl

[ruby sorrel]

wait I found one! saved

[pulsar willow]

I use cuprium at 7.5/min and originium at 15/min, because you need 120 originum for the full xiranite component rate, but only 60 cuprium for the full cuprium component rate.

[loud river]

Is there a zoom out feature yet that I just haven't found. They mentioned they were gonna add it later. Not sure if later is now

[iron stratus]

split the pipe once to 2 pipes, then each of those to 2, then each of those 4 to 2 pipes, then take on of the resulting pipes and put it in the treatment unit and converge all the 7 remaining pipes

7 total splitters

[spring yew]

I miss my old sub pac before the update

[loud river]

why did you change it

[iron stratus]

also why on earth is the sub pac an odd number of tiles wide and the outpost is an even number

it's always asymmetrical

[crimson inlet]

he needs more sandleaf xD

[ruby sorrel]

emergency diversion of goods to fix my damn battery problem smh

[spring yew]

We got more forge limits so i moved forge to sub pac
And gear+new battery+ syringe A on main aic

[loud river]

managed to fit 12/m batteries and 6/m yazhen on one factory so the other one is naked again

[bright zodiac]

oh, i forgot to mention, i have 58K xiranite comp already

[crimson inlet]

mine only has sandlef xD

[bright zodiac]

so im currently at 3/m cuprium comp, aiming for 58K

[loud river]

Btw. Is this a feature yet or not?

[spring yew]

Each of these 4 to 2 pipes how is that?

[iron stratus]

each splitter can give 3 outputs but if you only use 2 it'll just give each pipe out 1/2 instead of 1/3

[crimson inlet]

the stockade bankrupter

[spring yew]

Ohhhh so each one of the 4 is split into 2

[iron stratus]

rate out = 1 / # of lines out

[iron stratus]

yep

[spring yew]

I'll go online and do that and report back
Thank you so much sir

[ruby sorrel]

wait this was a bigger problem than I thought, my xiranite in depot went up 6k while offline

that's a lot of missing batteries

[severe grove]

When you exit from top view and see another perspective.

[rugged island]

time to play the "lets try to find what thing is randomly outputing orig"

[iron stratus]

i hope hc batteries only need 3 xiranite lines per so i dont have to move xiranite out of the outpost

[rugged island]

real

[worldly hound]

Bro what am I supposed to do in already in the core aic area

[severe grove]

The day HC Wuling batteries release is the day for factory renovations.

[iron stratus]

you have some part of the bp outside the border

probably a pipe

[worldly hound]

Can you clarify? I don't understand

[obsidian knot]

is sewage supposed to clog even when im using full production for both cuprium and xircon, like i thought production rate should be similar but for some reason my reactor always has sewage clog after awhile

[rare moon]

Something is poking out of your aic area

Which might be a pipe

[young stag]

desync happens i guess

should run fine if you have the space though

say you ran out of storage space for copium

[obsidian knot]

im not even close to maxing out cuprium

but the jam eventually goes all the way back to my cuprium refinery and that starts to slow a bit

[iron stratus]

you might be sending too much sewage and not treating enough

are you recycling the final reactor's sewage or not

[worldly hound]

Thank you guys love y'all with respect ❤️

[obsidian knot]

yea i am

right now its just 1 refinery per reactor

[iron stratus]

then yeah probably a desync

[obsidian knot]

its not an immediate issue, just happens like after several days

is there anyway to avoid desync

[iron stratus]

nope

become a developer and fix the bugs i guess could work

[obsidian knot]

rip

[iron stratus]

it's server side i believe

[obsidian knot]

guess im stuck putting up manual water tanks

i wonder if it would be less of an issue if my refinery would be right beside the reactor

[rugged island]

Wait hold on do we have enough orignium for 2 wuling SC bats?

[iron stratus]

yep

[obsidian knot]

yep

just exactly enough

[rugged island]

Ummm where am I wasting orig...

I must have some output thats empty and just making it be in the red ig

proly in the big builing

[spring yew]

Like this?

[true furnace]

I wish there was an option to just hide all UI elements during topdown mode

[rare moon]

I forgot that my second battery is less than 1/s sewage so my cuprium was getting halted

[true furnace]

Maybe leave the item icons pinned to the facilities

[iron stratus]

mhm

[spring yew]

YAYYYY FINALLY
Thank youuuu

[rugged island]

Yep it was one of the big buildings

[iron stratus]

do i only need 8 fluid pumps for 2 full sc battery lines and a yazhen a line or am i missing smth

[atomic fiber]

isn't it just 2?

1 pump for 1 sc batt line

unless you also include the sewage from syringe A

[iron stratus]

water pumps

the ones for xiranite, xircon, and yazhen combined

oh right i forgot 1 for the yazhen solution

[unique plover]

did anyone figured out the full optmized setup for new batteries and healing item?

[arctic sluice]

anyone got some extremely compact forge of the sky blueprints?

[iron stratus]

EFO0189305U2UO1IUI73

na/eu

[arctic sluice]

that is beautiful

tho. about the shredder. is 2 outputs fine or does it bottleneck on 2

[iron stratus]

does bottleneck but it wont cause any problems

[arctic sluice]

hm

[iron stratus]

there's a water line out that you can use to stack them

[arctic sluice]

that was my main headache when i was trying to make a forge blueprint. its so frustrating lol

[subtle finch]

huh, this is possible, but not logistic pipes with belts

[iron stratus]

max of 2 stacked because of water pipe limits

[iron stratus]

with 4 forges you'll always have 1 shredder that has a bottleneck, but you can take the third line from 2 of them and connect it to the third instead of giving it a sandleaf farm

[spring yew]

I just realised i didn't split it again, after rereading what you said earlier, so sorry about that

How about this? Also the second one, does it matter which end connected to the treatment machine or is this good?

[arctic sluice]

imtrying to fit a forge in a new build basically. this is one half and will be mirrored. but that empty space at the bottom left (soon also bottom right since mirror) is gonna drive me insane. im trying to make it symmetrical. all of it was going to go in my current space on the 2nd pic. 6 dense originium powder factories and 2 forges to the sides of that

ugh

[spring yew]

Hmmmmm

[arctic sluice]

i loved my valley AIC factory. all nice and symmetrical. wuling is just a giga headache. kms

[ruby sorrel]

you can save a lot of space if you burn wuling plant instead of buckleaf

[arctic sluice]

yea, the 2nd pic is all gonna get replaced

basically this is what im trying to do

move the red stuff into where blue is rn. the two purples are two forges which are going to get reworked

[arctic sluice]

red is this first pic, but will be mirrored to fit 6

[arctic sluice]

so i am trying to get some compact forges xd

[gusty lake]

Still clogged but much better i guess

[arctic sluice]

and symmetrical

[mint pagoda]

is it possible to have a pipe control port that handles sewage excess but doesn't cause a lack of sewage

[ruby sorrel]

I'm starting to suspect pipe convergers adjacent to buildings being sus even if it works

[subtle finch]

that's a huge ass xiranite production for only 2 forge. you should use water based plants for your carbon

[ruby sorrel]

these reactors need an empty function so I don't have to copypaste them around to get empty ones

[arctic sluice]

oh the other two forges are in the other camp

[small totem]

ik it might be a stupid question, but asking just to confirm something.
what is the frequency of item used by/coming out of a Depot unloader if factory is using every bit of item coming from that unloader??

is it 60/min?

[pulsar cypress]

30/min..

[ruby sorrel]

no idea tbh, but for now belts are 30/min

[subtle finch]

#1474032067208810710 message

[ruby sorrel]

maybe in the future if we have faster belts they can output higher

[subtle finch]

try this design for example. it can fit 4 forge on that same area

[arctic sluice]

oh my fucking god. that is absolutely beautiful

[small totem]

so basically it dispenses 1 item every 2 seconds on the conveyer belt?

[spring yew]

How about something like this?

[pulsar cypress]

Yass..

[arctic sluice]

how many fuckin

what

thats too much LMAO

[small totem]

alr, no wonder i was having problem with that... Bruh

[spring yew]

Is an idea tho lmao

[arctic sluice]

true

[spring yew]

Welp how about 1 or two

[ruby sorrel]

it's nice until I realized I wanted to not waste sandleaf

[arctic sluice]

wait a minute. thats my design LMFAO that confused me so bad

[spring yew]

XDDD yeah i took your picture removed background and flipped it

[arctic sluice]

nah honestly this is all i need for output but im going back to the drawing board

smh

ima look in #1461542035617091681 for inspiration

[spring yew]

Roger roger
Wishing you all the best

[arctic sluice]

aye

[lone pebble]

you do know u can save a lot of space , doing carbon with Yazhen /.?!

[arctic sluice]

ive heard this like 5 times

yes

im reworking my factory

[spring yew]

That's what i do personally

Infinite yazhan into carbon

[lone pebble]

saw youre pic , and after reading comment . nowone sad anything about it ! hat`s wy i repleyd ! lol 😛

[arctic sluice]

xd fair

[spring yew]

If you need help with yazhan planters layout let me know

[arctic sluice]

yes

give me

im pulling my hair out

[spring yew]

Oh alright
One sec

[iron stratus]

i finally made my factory with less than 3.19k energy usage

zero conduits used

[ruby sorrel]

can someone else with xircon issues help me test something I was checking all my reactors and there's something weird going on with converging the effluent pipes so I'm seeing if this helps cus look at that sewage buildup

[lone pebble]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO012I4uI6Ui389eIOo. Copy it and use it in the game.Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01A5i45I6a2E79ieO. Copy it and use it in the game. 4 pumps 2/entry !

[jade hare]

anyone got a bp for the most efficient battery use?

[lone pebble]

no build up !

[lone pebble]

usage ?! use DIGE https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en&p=BFdgTJFw

[ruby sorrel]

yeah so you think it's because I was converging the effluent pipes?

the pipe logic seems kinda broken

stuff disappears in them

[lone pebble]

think that converger , even if pipe suports 2 units , will take them 1 at a time !

[ruby sorrel]

pipe convergers are lossy or something

nah they still say 2/s

but something is going wrong somewhere

[lone pebble]

its says 2/s as its supporting it , but its converging 1 unit at a time

or/and flow rate that can enter/exit !

[ruby sorrel]

if it's converging 1 unit at a time then it's not 2/s

[wispy grove]

dont look at the converger, look at the pipe that exits the converger

[lone pebble]

yes/no it can have a 2s unit from just 1 pipe !

[ruby sorrel]

but I think you're right about convergers only taking from one side at a time

[lone pebble]

dont think is mixim them togheter

[ruby sorrel]

which means pipe convergers are kinda trash

[lone pebble]

well the converger . i belive in game is not working as we can imagine a " Y " works !

in story ish , there is a m...n that needs saving 🙂

[wispy grove]

dont blame convergers on this, because of you stay online, it will stablize itself, blame the offline bug calculations that makes the sewage build up

[ruby sorrel]

there's still a source of the issue

you can't just say oh offline sucks, what's causing it to suck

[spring yew]

EFO01u1I6652A10aiAoOU

The pipe extension is where the water goes (obviously)
The splitter there because i use it to send water to a forge, you can ignore it
The belt leading nowhere is where my machines start making it into carbon, you can connect that into depot or a different machine if you like

[wispy grove]

every belt and pipes have different alg when offline. even if its a perfect 1:1 ratio going though your crucibles

[arctic sluice]

thanks xd

[spring yew]

Nppp

[lone pebble]

u only need 2 ! wy on h... 6 !? with just 1 output ?

[spring yew]

More yazhan 🔥🔥

[spring yew]

I use these to send to two different machines

[lone pebble]

but still u jave only 1 output with 30/m !

with those 6 ! u can max 90/m !

[spring yew]

One half send to one forge
The other half send to the other forge
They're connected because why not XD

[lone pebble]

1 seed give 2

[spring yew]

Sends to the other 2 forges

4 total

This is the only yazhan for the 4 xiranite I'm making

Of course this all just my base
If you don't approve of it or it doesn't work with you that is totally fine

[lone pebble]

here u are lossing 1 flower ! if not connected ! and will cloged

same here ! 1 exit not 2 !

[spring yew]

Ohhhh i see what you mean

[iron stratus]

in wuling plant produces 2 not seed

[spring yew]

In my base it has 2 outputs

But i only copied one

Should i redo the blueprint?

[lone pebble]

for me no ! 🙂 was just curious how you made it !

and pointed out, what seems wrong

[sand pivot]

god I really hate the fact we can't choose which side is the input and which side is the output on the machines... goodbye symmetry 😔

[spring yew]

Ohhh no worries
I can provide screenshots if you want but yeah I'm happy with it ☺️

[spring yew]

I appreciate it alot

People like you ensure the blueprint codes aren't bullshitting other players
You're a good person

[sand pivot]

how are you guys organizing the sewage mess from the cuprium production? I am trying not to have pipes everywhere but it seems impossible 💀

[spring yew]

So real

[lone pebble]

i have them link indidually ! that`s wy i could not understand the print i saw from u 😛

[spring yew]

OMLLLL 😭

Welp if it works with you, I'm happy for you sir

[iron stratus]

not letting us have diagonal pipes means my factory is forced to have 4 obscene symbols

[sand pivot]

god, Kido... this is definitely something 😭

[mighty yacht]

Just what exactly is sensitive...

[sand pivot]

batt

it could be short for batty boy which is a lgbtq+ slur

I think it's that

[iron stratus]

endfield isnt for kids just remove the filter

[pulsar willow]

I just transfered 58K to Valley IV stash 🙂

[mighty yacht]

nope, i have like 6 other bp's with batt in it

[sand pivot]

hmmm strange

try to mess around with the words until it goes through

[mighty yacht]

it was com lmao

[sand pivot]

if it doesn't go through it could be maybe some pattern on the blueprint?

[sand pivot]

LMAO 😭

[pulsar willow]

Com because it thinks its a website promo?

[sand pivot]

possibly

[mighty yacht]

lmao imagine

[jade hare]

anyone know the most efficient setup for batteries?

[sand pivot]

what type of efficiency are you talking about?

[wispy grove]

Like this?

[pulsar willow]

Space efficient or what?

[spring yew]

Nvm i forgot about the other yazhan planters i have 🤦‍♂️

[sand pivot]

if you're talking about quantity/min it's 6/min @jade hare

[mighty yacht]

wrong replied message sorry

[jade hare]

using the least amount of batteries whille still running

[lone pebble]

YOU`L reach faccility limmit in no time 😛

[sand pivot]

it's 2 SC and 1 yazhen A atm

[spring yew]

Personally i run 2 battery machines but only need 1 new battery (3200+200)

[lone pebble]

?

[mint pagoda]

is it possible to have a pipe control port that handles sewage excess but doesn't cause a lack of sewage

[ruby sorrel]

I hit facility limit but can still place pipe splitters tbh

[wispy grove]

oh thats for sewage fail safe, i rotate the treatment plant when my sewage is clogging. it slowly treats sewage every 13 secs.

[sand pivot]

wait what?

[lone pebble]

oo , ok !

[sand pivot]

how many production lines of SC you got?

[lone pebble]

2

[spring yew]

You can help with these contraptions? I recently made one and i just need a review, could you please let me know if this good?

[jade hare]

its like this but idk the most efficient setup for it :/

[wispy grove]

My 2nd SC is this

[sand pivot]

ohhh I understand what you mean now

[wispy grove]

Literally space efficient

[lone pebble]

and all fac in AIC 🙂

[sand pivot]

idk the setup for that though ngl

I guess you're looking for a thermal banks array for wuling

[pulsar willow]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-movie-thats-a-penis-gif-15277623

[sand pivot]

maybe try searching that online, you might find something

[spring yew]

LMAOOOO

[pulsar willow]

Pattern recognition in action

[sand pivot]

I didn't even notice the pattern ngl LMFOA

[spring yew]

Fr tho guys
Does this work?

[quasi locust]

pwm setup is very dependent on your current power consumption, try dige if you want to start somewhere

[jade hare]

it does but idk the setup

[iron stratus]

how much power does a yazhen c production line take

[sand pivot]

no, the bp they posted does not

they were just demonstrating what they meant

thermal banks array basically

[quasi locust]

dige is risky for 2 wave setup tho, use at your own risk

[spring yew]

Oh 🙁
Yeah imma need blueprint or something for it
Idk how to make these

[sand pivot]

but you can use a similar setup in order to save power/ batteries

[spring yew]

Yeah idk how

[jade hare]

i looked thru bps but couldnt see anything :/

[quasi locust]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en&p=BFdgTJFw

[jade hare]

i tried this but did NOT understand it

[iron stratus]

can anyone teach me how to make a full factory image

[lone pebble]

try this , if youre ussage is hy delete 1 line ! see how it works , if not another one , etc !

[pulsar willow]

DIGE is easy though, you just set a delay for your backup battery feeder

[lone pebble]

or add a line 🙂

[quasi locust]

what it does it edging one thermal bank, so you run from your power reserve for some time, and when the thermal bank gets a battery, it charges the power reserve back

it shaves off battery usage by starving that thermal bank

[sand pivot]

x (on pc) > select all the elements you want on the screenshot > ctrl + c > drag the "copy" to the side and take a screenshot

[severe nexus]

What's max cuprium ore output?

[sand pivot]

I think 120/min

[iron stratus]

no like the edited ones of the entire top view

[spring yew]

Not for a first time user it isn't
I don't understand what branches they talking about

[pulsar willow]

You stitch them together

[sand pivot]

can you show me an example?

[iron stratus]

so boring

[lusty violet]

u can pretty much ignore branches and just set min%/waste

[pulsar willow]

There are a couple of good videos talking about the system in detail, it's really simple once you understand it.

It will just click like that one algebra problem you had to sit through

[spring yew]

I still don't understand that either 🥲

[quasi locust]

their branches means one line that feeds to thermal bank. two branches = two lines

again, use two lines (waves) at your own risk

[spring yew]

Exactly that's how it feels like hearing you all talking about it
I know once it clicks I'll be like OOHHHHHH
But for now ig I'll watch YouTube videos and cry about it

[wispy grove]

thats not helping at all

[spring yew]

Me still no understand a thing 🥲🥲

[lusty violet]

min% is the lowest % your pac battery will drop to
waste is the amount of excess power spent after pac is fully charged

[lone pebble]

this let`s the energy drop to 81 , when it reaches the bat that will enter the thermal bank will recharge the station bk to 100! then go again ! will not use 4 bat in 4 min , it will use just 2.5 ! get it ?

[quasi locust]

one branch = edging one thermal bank. two branch = edging two thermal bank

[spring yew]

How do i know that?

[pulsar willow]

You have a DIGE calculator, I think?

[spring yew]

I'm the kind of players who only know (aic need 3370, give 3200 to the 200. Good power)

[pulsar willow]

Wrong comment reply, but right person.

[quasi locust]

that's your risk appetite i afraid

[lusty violet]

i just do default and adjust if it says no solution, usually increasing waste

[spring yew]

Talos Roulette

[sand pivot]

honestly, I wouldn't bother with that @spring yew

[lusty violet]

it depends on your setup so hard to give exact numbers

[quasi locust]

just to be safe, use their one branch setup only if you can't work it out yourself, it will be safe

[sand pivot]

like it's so cringe to have a setup like that

you change one thing in your production line and suddenly you're using more power and have to redo the whole thing

[lusty violet]

thats why you allocate extra, or do it when your production is basically set

[sand pivot]

you add one zipline to the map?

gg

[lusty violet]

i give myself 400 excess since i like to do tests

[spring yew]

Frrrr
Add one building and now you need another battery

[pulsar willow]

Usually it's done after you set up all the ziplines and stuff

[iron stratus]

you ever just steal someone else's xircon line

[pulsar willow]

I just use less than 3.4K energy.

[spring yew]

Welp that's fair
I mean my battery production is still consistent both factories so i guess I'm fine for now

[sand pivot]

plus let's be honest, you clear outposts either way without doing all that and still have batteries left and yazhen left, so what's the point?

[lone pebble]

i think all are taking a few W of failsafe ! nowone is crazy enought to go exacly ex.2500 , will have 2530/2520/2570 etc !

[pulsar willow]

Nope, handmade everything. That's the fun.

[sand pivot]

you can do it for the love of the game, but I wouldn't do it unless you're a factory freak

[lusty violet]

this is barely factory freak level

[pulsar willow]

Minmaxing in factory games, my friend. Haven't you played something like that before?

[quasi locust]

a more intuitive way is just start dividing and starve a power bank and check if your power reserve goes back to 100% in <40s

[spring yew]

New truth or dare ideas
(I dare you to delete all blueprints saved) And (i dare you to remove all buildings and start from scratch)

[lusty violet]

regardless, that's a nice thing since it isn't necessary anyway

[pulsar willow]

Like, making the most use of your available resources is a lot of fun for me.

[sand pivot]

but again, you save batteries and what do you do with them?

[wispy grove]

and you need to fill this shi every couple hours

[sand pivot]

can't sell them cause outpost is cleared

can't use them cause you're minmaxxing

[lusty violet]

stash em

[sand pivot]

what do you do with them? 💀

[iron stratus]

so we just doing jobs for fun huh

[sand pivot]

stash for what?

[lusty violet]

for my family

[spring yew]

Next outpost level i think

[sand pivot]

see what I mean?

it's pointless 💀

[lone pebble]

transfer / stash them / raise S=pac lvl as soon as u can :)) ussualy in the 1.st h / after an update if u can :))

[quasi locust]

the input is connected to depot, and the protocol stash here only acts as belt buffer (to prevent jamming)

[lusty violet]

i can't believe people enjoy something that i dont enjoy
unbelievable

[wispy grove]

ohhhhhhh

[sand pivot]

you don't need to do that, just let the outpost stock up on bills before patch and when patch hits you automatically get max level

[wispy grove]

i still get anxiety seeing red alert flashing in my screen

[iron stratus]

actually does it even count as stealing someone's bp if i only keep the depot unloaders

[sand pivot]

you can also do that by just letting the outposts stock up on bills the day before

without having all this extra work 💀

[spring yew]

Hmmm how about making batteries so that when next region drops, you have batteries to transfer there
To focus solely on producing whatever new stuff

[mint pagoda]

is it possible to have a pipe control port that handles sewage excess but doesn't cause a lack of sewage? I am producing probably 1-2 too much per minute

[sand pivot]

again, even after clearing outpost, you have more than you sell

[spring yew]

Nope i don't think so

[sand pivot]

so you still have enough to transfer

the whole minmaxxing thing is for the love of the game but utterly useless logically wise

it serves no purpose 💀

[lone pebble]

true ! i`m almowst caped at bats ! will figure out a prin for gear 🙂

[true furnace]

Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

[pulsar willow]

Yes it's pointless, but it's fun. Are you going to still insist on the fact that it's pointless, if we agree with you, but continue doing what we like?

[spring yew]

I started using this, got help from people in the server about it
But i can't lie to you idk how well it works 🙂

[quasi locust]

I am working on a solution around filling/separating unit, and 58k bottles as buffer

[mint pagoda]

ooo that makes sense

[sand pivot]

I mean I am not like shaming you for doing it, I am just telling a new player to not concern themselves with that

cause it serves no purpose

[true furnace]

Control ports suck ass tbh, just isolate the excess sewage line to a treatment facility

[sand pivot]

especially if they don't understand the whole gimmick behind the calculations

[pulsar willow]

Again, it's not that hard. If they want to build it - they can.

[lone pebble]

i still dont understand how u guys get cloged at sewage ! i cand do it :))

[spring yew]

Lucky for you 🥲

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-dog-gif-23018206

[wispy grove]

instead of shaming us, why not teach us your ways sensei

[wispy grove]

yow

hes rage baiting

[lone pebble]

I`M not shaming anybody , i just dont get it ! and no i.m not rage baiting 😛

[wispy grove]

i can feel the clogging from other places

[pulsar willow]

It's ferrium dust on the underfed part of the xircon unit, I think?

[lone pebble]

i`m using like this , as IN so OUT !

[hoary crag]

has anyone like already dealt with the sewage eventually clogging from refinery to reactor?

it is stable when online

[wispy grove]

correct. hes starving of sewage

[hoary crag]

but if you like go offline for an hour, it like clogs again

[wispy grove]

yes i did

only fail safe tho

[lusty violet]

then it still clogs

[fluid fog]

GOOD MORNING!!!!

[pulsar willow]

I haven't encountered it, so I can't seem to help...

[wispy grove]

more like if it clogs, redirect the sewage to treatment

[pulsar willow]

Gom

[hoary crag]

how does that work?

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-dog-gif-23018206

[lone pebble]

to bad i cant prove i was off for h or so ! to resend pic after login bk in !

[hoary crag]

this is my current sc wuling battery line for reference

[wispy grove]

Here i made a sewage filter. You can turn it off by rotating the treatment

[uneven aspen]

i've had

[wispy grove]

It reduces 1 sewage every 13 secs

[uneven aspen]

just send more than required and then watertreat the rest

[wispy grove]

Its slow but enough to make you do other things ingame

[iron stratus]

pipe priority is so weird

[fluid fog]

HORAYY no more desynch problem, just abit gear component consumption.

[pulsar willow]

It would be cool if we could, I don't know... HARD SET THE SPEED?

[iron stratus]

speed of what

[pulsar willow]

Of anything. Belts for example or liquid. Without needing to do splitters and mergers.

Valves in satisfactory make a good example of that.

[quasi locust]

filing/separating unit yo. use belt dividers for bottle input

[wispy grove]

With this i can confidently sleep while sewage builds up overtime. Then when i go online, i just rotate the treatment plant and connect it to the pipe, play for 20min do dailies, come back to the factory and rotate it again to turn it off. More like a sewage faucet

[iron stratus]

i mean as it is right now you dont need to do crazy splitter/merger things except for optimizing battery usage

[pulsar willow]

Yeah but still would be nice.

[mint pagoda]

I think I finally tweaked it to be perfect

I hope

[iron stratus]

you could compact that a lot

[wispy grove]

I built it directly in my factory

[mint pagoda]

bruh wuling is 80% wasted space who cares

[quasi locust]

fr i think if you need a water treatment unit, it's better to replace it with filling/separating unit, and use belt divider to control the excess rate instead

[iron stratus]

you gotta make it look nice

[mint pagoda]

Will when it matters

😭

[iron stratus]

it matters always

it's about dignity

[wispy grove]

it matters when we see it

[hoary crag]

also tbh

[wispy grove]

nah just do your thing. if it works, dont fix it sorta stuff

[hoary crag]

has anyone figured out the actual flow rate for sewage when offline? (ik this is a very stupid question but a man can dream)

[frigid breach]

Is there anything stopping me from pouring sewage into a river

[wispy grove]

i tried

[hoary crag]

since on paper and when online, the normal sewage lines **are **stable

[atomic fiber]

no one even figured the exact speed of offline belt... i doubt anyone figured the one for pipe

[fluid fog]

it unusual again that input conveyer material doesn't get clogged unlike before when offline. KEKW. I try to put another lane then.

[lusty violet]

belts are ~0.2% slower when offline
item control is ~0.5%

[wispy grove]

its not 1/2sec ratio , more like within 0.96 ~0. 98 sewage every 2 secs

[atomic fiber]

i just use something like this

[wispy grove]

i used my filter system as a test

[arctic sluice]

by the way, why this design? isnt it too many planters and seeders? arent 2/3 fine to have a loop that is sustainable and infinite?

[fluid fog]

so u saying you need to put item control?

[wispy grove]

its like forges make xiranite faster than it releases when offline

[lusty violet]

item control is worse than belts

[atomic fiber]

the main issue with item control isn't just slow, sometimes it also make your belt working strange

[fluid fog]

but if between two buildings only item control, does will not make strange things?

[wispy grove]

item control acts like a belt cause it only passes 1 drop every 2 secs

on that specific square space

[fluid fog]

yeah... thats also what I see.

[quasi locust]

hmm i wouldn't use item control port for rate that matters, only if i need to limit the quantity

[wispy grove]

quantity of?

[fluid fog]

item control doesn't limit though only filter

[quasi locust]

item consumed or produced

[atomic fiber]

it will behave kinda random in offline

[fluid fog]

KEKW now you make me curious, I WILL DO IT FOR SCIENCE

[wispy grove]

we can only do tests since we dont know the exact caclulatons

[atomic fiber]

you can try it mostly just make belt out item not in consistent way

[wispy grove]

and we can only use 2 and 3 divisors on pipes

what happens if we have 1.010101 sewage/2 secs when offline?

or 0.98989 xiranite water?

this is hassle

[sand pivot]

?

"overlaps with other facilities"?

[quasi locust]

the pipe bridge is a facility, your belt can't pass through

[sand pivot]

bruh 😭

[wispy grove]

theres a belt below

[hoary crag]

@wispy grove I tried making one that'd fit inside my sc line,

am I right that it takes one out every 12s?

(treatment will be sent to one of the output ports on the bottom splitter

[dawn flax]

ye, pipe-splitter , bridge, and converger need a space down below for column

[wispy grove]

the middle is a splitter

[hoary crag]

yup that's intended

[wispy grove]

w8 wheres the treatment plant located then

[hoary crag]

converger on right leads to crucibles

splitter on the bottom is the starting point for those heading to treatment

[sand pivot]

btw before I spend all my time setting this up and then it doesn't work, do inlets and outlets work for all fluids?

[hoary crag]

it does handle both refineries at once (and also feeds both crucibles)

[wispy grove]

how much sewage per sec?

[wispy grove]

okat

[hoary crag]

1/s

[fluid fog]

alright, I put item control at the unloading then the rest I just add additional conveyer lane.

[iron stratus]

if it's not 25x15 it's not right

[wispy grove]

but its not every 12 secs

1 sewage every 13 secs if you wanna include the left pipe

but if not, every 12secs

[hallow monolith]

you know i think a "fun" idea for an event is when you get something like "material surge" events where your cuprium ore or xiranite production doubles for like a few days, and you need to modify your factory to take advantage of the surge

[hoary crag]

ic

[hallow monolith]

or some kind of meaningful material that is used for account progression

[small creek]

@marble yarrow good morning

today, a friend of mine gave me an idea

and now a new project dawns on me

[fluid fog]

well you can do that by adding Building Efficiency on top of Recipe. The building was making 100% will do 200% so the recipe that use like 30/m will become 60/m

[small creek]

integrating 120/min xiranite and 6/min SCW batt to save 55 power

[wispy grove]

🤔

[hallow monolith]

i jsut found out about making valley IV batteries in wuling to save on wuling SC batters so now i need to go spend an hour or two to set that up

and waste another 30 minutes finding the perfect battery saver setuyp

[spring yew]

Quick question
If i need a bit more sewage cleared, i delete one line?

[fluid fog]

yeah I already have it. not great setup but its working fine.

[lone pebble]

ps u can transfer the dense true meta ,a and not needing that "spliter" !

[spring yew]

I really need help everyone
I'm not smart enough to make that, i asked help for it 🥲

[wispy grove]

you have high sewage output that goes through the sewage treatment than i do but it also takes 13 sec. mine shows 1/18. i think my math aint mathing here

[fluid fog]

I already meta transfer before, its just precaution measure that I just add splitter, like I said its not great setup but its working.

[slow canyon]

@ruby sorrel @crude pulsar Xircon production fix is live on the calc. If you find anything amiss, do tell!

[dawn flax]

becareful if the transferring-material is capped on the receiving end, the meta-transfer stop completely, has to reset

even if the receiveing end no longer capped later

[hoary crag]

I tested with fluid tanks (right crucible, bottom treatment)

I also added one more splitter and converger.

for some reason it's this setup that sends one to treatment around every 12/13s

the previous one sends one to treatment every 6 or 7s (I'm sorry but it is what it is)

[wispy grove]

nvm mine is 1 every 17 secs

[fluid fog]

Guys just put alot of fluid tank, nore more complicated split pipe. AHAHAHAHAHA

laughing aside will to that splitting soon.

[wispy grove]

dang i guess i suck atmath

HAHHAHA

this one is the treatment plant right?

oh okay i get it now

[arctic sluice]

can i get some yahzen blueprints for forges

[wispy grove]

it does go 1 every 7 secs(dont include left pipe)

lemme check mine, im sure its 13secs

oh its 11

nvm then

[hoary crag]

plumbing go brrr

[wispy grove]

imma make a blue print post

i forgot the splitters and convergers have 2units/s

in this case, its 1/s

11x100/60

18 mins to drain fully clogged crucibles

[wary perch]

think my setup is good now? gear has a switch off

[wispy grove]

yup it looks fine

[hoary crag]

you know what

[wispy grove]

be carefull with ferrium tho

[hoary crag]

this is stressing me out so much lol

I'll just manually drain sewage clogging each time I log on

[wary perch]

ye its managable by daily transfer

[wispy grove]

just rotate your treatment plant

like a faucet it will stop from collecting sewage

and if it clogs, rotate it back again

[hoary crag]

just stash and put it back every once in a while

I have my excess sandleaf powder for daily depot

now to think of it

how many forges do ya'll think they'll let us have in 1.2?

[wary perch]

here is my xircon blue print

[wispy grove]

6 total im sure

[hoary crag]

since if it's like 6, we can finally make a triple forge setup that has no surplus at all

[wispy grove]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hoary crag]

since as of now, each forge has one sandleaf powder surplus

[wispy grove]

and theyll use 5 orig cubes per battery

[hoary crag]

make that 2, and you'd have enough powder to feed the third forge

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

good thing we have a way to save space for future edits

[hushed blaze]

Hmm more ferrium mining vein where-

In wuling-

I ran out of ferrium ore

[hoary crag]

this is my current xiranite line and I'm in love with it

[dawn flax]

ye, that Syringe C rate is relatable to negative-rate ferrium

[wispy grove]

10 belts of originium, 2 belts of ferrium, 3 cuprium, 3 xiranite just to get 1 battery

https://tenor.com/view/man-destroys-pc-harold-slikk-new-computer-haroldslikk-escortedcomputer-gif-23496313

[hoary crag]

tho if we'd actually get 6 forges in 1.2, I might have to combine them into a triple line

[iron stratus]

if we get 6 forges in 1.2 i'll be in heaven with my completely full outpost

[pulsar cypress]

Proceed to buy directly at the wuling city..

[iron stratus]

if it's 8 im quitting aic

[wispy grove]

they better not introduce amethyst in this place next update

[sand pivot]

I swear I wish they'd let us pick which side of the machine is the input and which side is the output...

my symmetry

[iron stratus]

you only need 1 belt of cuprium and 2 belts of xiranite

[hushed blaze]

Ametyst in wuling is fine tho-

[crystal onyx]

i forgot you can make carbon with other plants that isnt buckflower LOL

[iron stratus]

and you need 12 belts of originium i think

[wispy grove]

i mean next patch HC battery

[iron stratus]

or like 6

[nova osprey]

8 belts of originium

[iron stratus]

then that's easy

[iron stratus]

you're good at this

[small creek]

best thing to loop

[lusty violet]

infinite power

[viscid plover]

minimalist approach

[hushed blaze]

Output then input.

[subtle finch]

I did my best , but it looks ugly

[small creek]

i should get more burdomuck so i can make the line longer

[sand pivot]

is that efficient? I think you need another belt of burdo-muck

[crystal onyx]

ugly factories are efficient factories which means theyre beautiful in their own way ❤️

[iron stratus]

yeah that yazhen pipe has to be maddening

[crystal onyx]

and plus that factory is actually nice and organized

i like it

[sand pivot]

I tried as well, the game doesn't allow better 😭

[small creek]

i actually wanna make it like this but i dont have enough burdomuck to showcase

also max belt length lmao

[viscid plover]

now that's one approach i haven't seen before lol

[sand pivot]

you could just add a bunch of splitters and converters to make it look full

[small creek]

nah i want real burdomuck

[wispy grove]

just a normal train coming through

[hushed blaze]

Harshly inefficient gear component making-

[crystal onyx]

pinball with burdomuck and splitters

[sand pivot]

bro only got 6 burdo muck

[wispy grove]

thats temporary gear, dont stack too much

[small creek]

yea yea im gonna get more 🥀

[sand pivot]

[small creek]

too busy trying to integrate something rn

[crystal onyx]

how is the building experience on mobile? im curious

[hushed blaze]

The same as how you manage layout defense in game called clash of clans.

[crystal onyx]

makes sense

[iron stratus]

why are we making cryston components

[crystal onyx]

hey you can never have too many of something

[hushed blaze]

Why not. It is the only way to spend v4 currency anyway

[small creek]

yea i can never have too many burdomuck

[sand pivot]

I still find it strange I never made cryston components

[small creek]

theyre kinda ass ngl

[sand pivot]

completely skipped them and only found out they were a thing when I was done with my wuling setup lmfao

[small creek]

theyre good for one thing, but that one thing almost no one does

[sand pivot]

what is it again?

purple gear?

[crystal onyx]

i built a shitty cryston component factory fell asleep crafted 132 ziplines and deleted that LOL

[sand pivot]

oh that's what they're for

💀

[hushed blaze]

Although you do have point that cryston components suck anyway just for purple gear (lvl 50 gear)

[crystal onyx]

do you guys genuinely take time out of your day to build ziplines

im curious

[small creek]

you only make purple gear if you plan to equip someone with it for afk alluvium exp farming

[crystal onyx]

ive only built a few that bring me to scertain places

[pulsar cypress]

Nop. For me..
Just place em when passing by and think if it is important spot..

[wispy grove]

for me nah

[sand pivot]

I don't 💀 I did like 3 depot deliveries and gave up on it

[wispy grove]

min maxing isnt my thing

i minmax sanity tho

[small creek]

for example, my darkma- i mean tangtang

level 40

[pulsar cypress]

Maybe my map have less than half zips compared to others..

[sand pivot]

(I will have you know I haven't placed a single zipline except the ones the quests FORCE you to place)

[crystal onyx]

i would place ziplines in valley iv but i was enjoying wuling too much and now i get mad at having to manually connect pylons

[small creek]

bro got spoiled

joever

spoiled by bluetooth pylon

now u dont wanna use regular

[wispy grove]

what do u think the next upgrade to xiranite pylons?

satellite ones?

[crystal onyx]

maybe just extend the length they can connect

[pulsar cypress]

Walking and running more healthy.. °-°)b

[sand pivot]

what do you guys think is the next upgrade to belts and pipes?

[dark furnace]

I did

[sand pivot]

belpipes?

[hushed blaze]

I only use zipline at wuling and v4 originium science park

[sand pivot]

a belt-pipe that can carry both fluids and solids?

[hushed blaze]

Standard zipline tho

[crystal onyx]

what might you possibly use this for

[wispy grove]

wireless

i mean beltless

[sand pivot]

no idea 💀

[hushed blaze]

Tower consume a lot more power

[wispy grove]

underground belts

[crystal onyx]

maybe underground like they did with the conduits

[sand pivot]

beltless facilities would be cool

[frail trail]

Half of the people playing this game don't even know that you can use tp to get efficient relay tower 👀

[small creek]

true..

[sand pivot]

maybe underground from one facility to another cause otherwise there's no use

like if you need inlets and outlets, it's useless

[hushed blaze]

We already have belt-free transfer

[sand pivot]

might as well place the belt that takes one tile than an outlet or inlet that takes 9 💀

[pulsar cypress]

What kind of efficient relay with tp?

[crystal onyx]

i doubt it i built my factory before conduits and oh my god my pipes are so ugly

its just piles upon piles of pipe splitters

[sand pivot]

don't even remind me of that, I was slowly recovering from my factory's asymmetry

[small creek]

tbf its optimal if you dont use conduits

less fac count

conduit pair is already 2 fac

[dawn flax]

you can place conduit (even outlet) outside AIC area too

[iron stratus]

we shouldnt need a whole tile gap to connect to facilities that feed directly into eachother

[small creek]

meanwhile if you manage pipes well, thats 0 fac

[sand pivot]

I don't use conduits unless I need to take the pipe to the other side of the PAC

[crystal onyx]

i always placed my conduits and water treatment units outside of the aic area

[sand pivot]

they just feel kinda pointless in a way

[crystal onyx]

i must… optimize…

[hushed blaze]

You still need water pump to connect conduit inlet anyway-

[pulsar cypress]

Hide the pipes behind..
Embrace the beauty of plumbing..

[sand pivot]

they take up 2 fac count and on top of that the outlet takes 9 tiles, basically a whole machine worth of space

[small creek]

theres water at the back of the main pac

[crystal onyx]

personally i just make a really long pipe and if i reach the limit i just add a control belt or whatever itnis

[iron stratus]

i've tried everything and i've been trying for 5 days straight and my factory is still somehow EXACTLY 3195 power consumption every single time i've tore it all down and put it back up

[small creek]

behold, the back of my main pac

[iron stratus]

except i used to have like 2950 power consumption with more production lines on my first factory of 1.1

[pulsar cypress]

The conduit me use is only from the river to aic border..
It annoys me to see them bridging the passage.. XD

[crystal onyx]

have you tried using depot loaders instead of protocol stashes

[small creek]

5 water pumps here

[hushed blaze]

Power up

[iron stratus]

that's all i've been using

[small creek]

so many pylon 🥀

[iron stratus]

i think im just terrible at this game mode

i need to start playing satisfactory and maybe then i'll understand

[hushed blaze]

I'm about to stash it. It was electric mining rig before

[crystal onyx]

no such thing as being terrible… just producing less

and why are you limiting your power so much anyway

[iron stratus]

ocd

i need to get back to 2.95k but i dont know what i did

[small creek]

this one is my ferrium

[pulsar cypress]

Water rig with pipe lines looks cooler than with conduit imo.. XD

[dawn flax]

my wuling aic is 4k power usage and i'm fine with it

[small creek]

1 tower to rule them all

[crystal onyx]

does hydro rig mine better?

[small creek]

no but it uses less power

[pulsar cypress]

Same, but less energy consumption..

[crystal onyx]

ohh

[small creek]

2 water pump = 20 power
6 mk2 rig = 60 power

[crystal onyx]

yo im lowk too lazy to replace it all

[hushed blaze]

Don't give me a flashback of how i blew up wuling factory

[small creek]

i have already replaced all of mine

[sand pivot]

guys you think it's ethical if I connect the sewage to a fluid supply machine and just dump it into wuling's river?

[crystal onyx]

no use they lake where they source their drinking water

[dawn flax]

if u "can" , sure

[wispy grove]

cant

[sand pivot]

actually?

[wispy grove]

its prohibited

[small creek]

in the process, this marvel of engineering was made

[sand pivot]

are you joking or?