aic-factory

[shrewd knoll]

endfield inflation

[silent canyon]

And that's all the batter you have to craft from that

[young phoenix]

when are we never poor

[marble yarrow]

only cuprium ones

[iron stratus]

you only need 1 refinery for a sc line it's2 the xiranite that's the issue since you need 60 for full cuprium part output

[silent canyon]

If you have remaining Xiranite, you can just consume it with the lower tier battery

[marble yarrow]

lmao and they will fix it in the maintenance later

[tawny bear]

i never considered outputting inputs i feel like a fool,,,,,

[hoary crag]

since when were we not poor in wuling?

[upper fiber]

that's why i don't wanna make new gear when i see the bills are double

[crimson inlet]

I have like, 1 mil in the bank while I'm waiting for tangtang to collect their tax

[ruby sorrel]

nah there's never enough xiranite

[iron stratus]

the new redeemer piece for laev is definitely worth it though

[ruby sorrel]

making LC batts is just to stock up in case new outpost

[outer basin]

I'm making 12 Batteries, 6 Syringes, and V4 Batteries using Metatransfer.

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[marble yarrow]

i love my fat battery

[hoary crag]

you have to sacrifice one SC wuling battery line unfortunately

[upper fiber]

why it seems like the devs really wanna torture us by selling it at 2x price

[hoary crag]

then decide from there if you want 3/min or 6/min cuprium components

[silent canyon]

If only they gave us 60 more cuprium/min

[crimson inlet]

I got 21k of LC in depot for instant outpost development

[outer basin]

I wanted to get stock bills rolling before doing Components because this update was already confusing enough with everything being integrated together but apparently I'm stupid and that was wrong to do.

[spiral remnant]

what a gorgeous little contraption

[hoary crag]

?

[upper fiber]

bp user said: easy factory

[hoary crag]

there's nothing wrong with that tho?

[crimson inlet]

Has someone udpated their Laev gear set?

[hoary crag]

that's exactly what I did before and shortly after the update

[iron stratus]

yeah

[crimson inlet]

do you have a disc. link on those?

I kinda wanna min max laev

[marble yarrow]

doing 11/min SC feels much safer than 12/min due to the need of overflow treatment (i do 1/min of comps)

[crimson inlet]

even though I'm f2p (don't have her at max pot)

[outer basin]

Now I have to tear down my whole fucking factory because I built with compaction in mind and have no room for splitters and whatever the fuck I have to do to Sewage that people still won't explain.

[iron stratus]

im not sure what that means

[crimson inlet]

[silent canyon]

You just put sewage into the water treatment for simple solution

If you don't know what to do with it

[crimson inlet]

message link or forward

or an screenshot if you have one

[silent canyon]

You don't HAVE to use your sewage on batteries

It can help out to just sink the sewage to make the ratio easier

[crimson inlet]

you're eventually have to use water treatment for batteries too

[iron stratus]

just change tide to redeemer armor

[outer basin]

I've seen several posts about people making some kind of splitter thing to "handle sewage" when they start making components.

[iron stratus]

no need to change anything else on her

[crimson inlet]

that easy?

[silent canyon]

Yeah, but you don't need to use 100% of your sewage

[iron stratus]

yep

[crimson inlet]

damn

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1483090075490193458/Endfield_2026-03-16_21-10-02.mp4?ex=69b952c4&is=69b80144&hm=ee253041e8f7ff5d24e144c16cb9a87543ad88230ca1a2c23ba1607b67536ec7&

[silent canyon]

You can just use as much as you need to make however many batteries you're trying to make, and then sink the rest

[hoary crag]

logistics -> pipe splitter

[outer basin]

Not what I'm asking.

[hoary crag]

fair enough

[silent canyon]

The satisfactory method. Overproduce, sink the rest

Brute force, no math

[outer basin]

You can't overproduce in Endfield.

[upper fiber]

i tried using reactor to make double process for xircon but only get 28/min efficiency, sigh not worth it

[crimson inlet]

best method, until you use your nogging to make it better

[outer basin]

I'm using 100% of everything but Sandleaf Powder and Sewage.

[silent canyon]

Yeah it's better, but it's not wrong to at least get started that way

[marble yarrow]

guys

the solution to sewage clogging

[silent canyon]

You can also overbuild, and just run at lower efficiency. It's ugly, but it works

[crimson inlet]

We're shipping dirt rn

[silent canyon]

I ship out sandleaf powder. Send them sawdust

[crimson inlet]

its somehow more expensive than water treatment it

[silent canyon]

I wonder if there's gonna be a point to the unpackager

Currently I don't find a use for it

[crimson inlet]

*bottle separator

[outer basin]

Well, see, that's the problem. As @shrewd knoll pointed out, I'm stupid.

[shrewd knoll]

and endorsed by the man himself

[crimson inlet]

Use a notepad and make a map of what you need to do

[shrewd knoll]

[silent canyon]

Like in Satisfactory the packager is useful when there's a liquid that can't be found everywhere
like oil

But since water is everywhere I don't see the point in bottling water

[crimson inlet]

or draw a mind map of starting to end point of production

connnect stuff

[crude pulsar]

oh! that was you?! hi!!

actually i do have some feedback (more like corrections really, i havent read deeper on ur repo to contribute)

• last time i check, think you forgot adding xircon to recipe list
• also recipe for carbon asks for powdered something, instead of using a wuling plant, think this one is a problem because of multiple recipes and it only check the first entry?

i guess for multi recipe ones u probably need a new feature, some kind of picker or dropdown for recipes

[silent canyon]

And unpacking it somewhere else

[crimson inlet]

we like ze bugs

[silent canyon]

At least this game that I'm aware of water does not follow the laws of gravity

No need for pumps and headlift

Or water towers

[outer basin]

Sorry I'm struggling with my first factory game ever.

[crimson inlet]

good thing we don't spill

[silent canyon]

Water is kinda just item that can't go in your inventory unless you bottle it

Imagine having to deal with liquid physics in this game

[ruby sorrel]

nah endfield pumps are super strong, you can even mine with it

[outer basin]

How dare anyone struggle with anything ever.

[silent canyon]

My guy log off and cool down

You've been at this for like an hour

[outer basin]

9

Across two days

[silent canyon]

This isn't self harm Olympics

[outer basin]

No this is the channel to talk about the AIC part of this game

[crimson inlet]

it's weird how my first factory game is this mobile game:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.olympus.assemblyline

[slow canyon]

One of the people working on it, can't claim all the "glory"! 🤣
Yeah, someone mentioned the Xircon, I'll check what's going on there.

You can change the recipe used, when there's multiple recipes available, in the "Production Table"

[crimson inlet]

then my proper one is mindustry, when I got a laptop, I cracked Factorio

[silent canyon]

Mine was modded minecraft > factorio > satisfactory > endfield

[outer basin]

I enjoyed the V4 factory stuff but this 1.1 philosophy of everything being interconnected and breaking if you so much as breathe on it is extremely frustrating.

[marble yarrow]

(havent played any of that)

[iron stratus]

it's really just the sewage thing you have to be careful about

[wispy grove]

one clog stops everything ahh factory

[marble yarrow]

tip: dont do 12/min of SC

[lapis crane]

tbh u could run sewage xiranite system separately by making them stay in a loop

[tawny bear]

i for one am finally glad the extra sandleaf from xiranite prod is being used =w=

[ruby sorrel]

but that's the one with no sewage problems

[iron stratus]

they really should add an item deletion facility

then you couldnt get a clog from cuprium refining realistically

[silent canyon]

Ficsit does not waste

[ruby sorrel]

just manually delete it every couple days

[uneven aspen]

this is all the interconnected i've done

[ruby sorrel]

dunno why you'd not make yazhen A instead though

[iron stratus]

oh well yeah you can sell cuprium parts i forgot

[tawny bear]

wait a minute i have two sc battery packagers MY STOCKPILE'S IN DANGER

[crude pulsar]

didnt notice the multi recipe since i automatically goes to the building view 😅

[marble yarrow]

most people complain with 12/min of SC

[outer basin]

I understand that you can't do full production on everything. I was able to make 3k Xiranite Components per week while slowing other stuff in 1.0. The problem I'm having is that if you do that in 1.1 everything fucking breaks. Adding to the frustration is that people have solved this but when I try to ask how to solve it, it's a big secret.

[silent canyon]

Yazhen A is your cuprium sink
SC batteries or the water treatment sinks sewage
Batteries are also your Xiranite sink

[iron stratus]

if they gave us 3 sc battery lines we wouldnt have any excess sandleaf powder

[ruby sorrel]

I've explained it to you like 3 times already, if that's a secret then tough luck

[lapis crane]

and it broke everything when they use xiranite without managing cuprium waste system

to clog entire thing

[crimson inlet]

why?

I wanna

[outer basin]

This is what I'm asking to solve. But sure, just laugh at me instead of helping.

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-money-vince-mcmahon-money-wwe-capitalism-gif-23623669

[iron stratus]

are you modulating anything or just freehanding a megafactory

if you are then i'd try modulating

[uneven aspen]

or like share any images

[crimson inlet]

you can copy-paste a factory...

[wispy grove]

you can solve the clogging online. it looks fine. you did nothing wrong when you look at the numbers. i think your issue goes to the offline clogging bug

[crimson inlet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1481956319614341161

[silent canyon]

Simple ratio that does not break.

2 cuprium refineries.
2 liquid xiranite reactors
2 effluent reactors
2 waste treatments for inert effluent
1 ferrium refiner and shredder
1 xircon reactor
1 waste treatment for sewage

[upper fiber]

let just hope the MT will fix the issue

[iron stratus]

these weekly routine etchspace salvage quests are way too easy to give half the week's worth

[lapis crane]

it just put waste system in a loop

kickstart like you did with planting system
but more complication

[marble yarrow]

because you can add 1 water treatment and it acts as a fail-safe

[outer basin]

No, I'm talking about when you siphon Xiranite to make Components. Less Sewagw gets used which breaks the entire factory.

[iron stratus]

you could get like 9k aurylene crystals each run

[silent canyon]

You can't siphon the Xiranite. You give it its own dedicated line

[shell crown]

Is 12 sc 6 yazhen A the max without transfers

[crimson inlet]

which parts should I add that?

[uneven aspen]

yup and a bit of syringe C iirc

[marble yarrow]

all sewage just flows to the left if the 2nd to 4th reactors throttle by themselves

[silent canyon]

Just don't make 12 batteries

[wispy grove]

how much xiranite you wanna have per min to make components?

[upper fiber]

if you making component then add water treatment for the unused sewage

[solid python]

I'm currently producing 11.5/min SC Batteries, 5.5/min Syringes, 0.5/min Cuprium Components by treating 1/6 sewage.

[crimson inlet]

huh, its weird how mine doesn't clog...

[iron stratus]

make 4 xiranite lines

[silent canyon]

Make 6 SC batteries, and then use the remaining Xiranite to make LC batteries. This way if you take Xiranite from the LC battery factory, it doesn't mess with the sewage amount

[tawny bear]

well i made more sandleaf planters, but now i have 60/min sandleaf powder going unused,,,,,, crap,,,,,

[outer basin]

Good for you. Sorry again for struggling.

[tawny bear]

curse my eternal struggle for 100% efficiency

[crimson inlet]

I'm not talking about you dawg

[crimson inlet]

I'm running a dige thing

[wispy grove]

oh

[marble yarrow]

you can see some sewage stocking up elsewhere. its bound to happen when u go offline since everything slows down by less than 1% (you can check the conduits, refiners, there will be small amounts accumulating)

[silent canyon]

That's the reason I don't make 12 SC batteries. I make 6 SC and 12 LC and then I can use one of each battery in the thermal

[uneven aspen]

even 100% inputs sc battery?

[marble yarrow]

yeah. it might not look like it clogs, but you can check tiny amounts of sewage slowly accumulating

[wispy grove]

did you use splitter system on your xyranite lines??

[tawny bear]

usually when there's a problem with me batteries i look for where my conveyors are lacking and follow that to the source of the sitch

[crimson inlet]

I think having a on/of water treatment might solve this

[tawny bear]

like earlier there was a lack of xircon, so i followed my xircon line and foundi forgot to wire my sewage conduit :v

[marble yarrow]

you can check the micro-clogs in your every item if you set each graph to 30min or 2hr. this is a known bug

[shrewd knoll]

its a feature

[marble yarrow]

its not because your belts clogs. they just do it. if you look at your factory when u log in, nothing is wrong

schrodinger's clog

[upper fiber]

it is HG telling you to login 24hrs a day

[outer basin]

God I'm tired of the factory music. Just sitting here staring, trying to figure this out

[lusty violet]

kinda curious, whoever has 6/min sc wbat, does ur packaging unit have a surplus of dense ori powder?

[wispy grove]

the belts in 1.0 gaslighting us that everything is fine

[lusty violet]

like in the machine window

[uneven aspen]

nope

[upper fiber]

if you mean after log off, yeah

[lusty violet]

yea after log off/offline

[upper fiber]

because your xircon production get messed up by the devs, they trolling anyone not online 24hrs

[outer basin]

Know what else messes up Xircon? Siphoning Dense Powder for Components which causes Xircon to not be used as often which clogs the Xircon which clogs the sewage which causes the entire factory to shut down

[marble yarrow]

[iron stratus]

if you're gonna do cuprium and xiranite components !shut down your second sc battery line!

[lusty violet]

hell yea

[solid python]

Just meta 1500 Dense Originium Powder

[marble yarrow]

you clear them. log off. half a day later, they back at 50

[outer basin]

Using that for V4 batteries.

[shrewd knoll]

no, working as intended for me

[iron stratus]

you can only keep 1 sc line+1 part line, 2 part lines, or 2 sc lines at max speed

[wispy grove]

you need to separate xircon from your battery factory if you dont want that to happen

[shrewd knoll]

maybe when you worked on your xircon thing, it massed up

[solid python]

V4 batteries you can transfer manually

[haughty wharf]

Does yours ever clog lol?

[iron stratus]

only 20/hour

[uneven aspen]

you know what try out this website
https://beta.enka.network/endfield/aic/

be free from the in-game music.

It will show you what's wrong too.

[crimson inlet]

sad that it's still not ready for mobile users

[marble yarrow]

everything does, when you go offline.

if i go offline for 2 hrs, the 2hr-chart isnt perfect.
when im online for 2hrs, the 2hr-chart is perfect across all items

[uneven aspen]

you can try out https://endfieldtools.dev/factory-planner/planner/ this one too will show usage and yields etc though no keyboard controls

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[haughty wharf]

Is it bad that all my materials go to 50then clog when I log off

[marble yarrow]

the planters/seeders behave worse lmao

[solid python]

Sounds like you aren't treating

[haughty wharf]

Lol

[outer basin]

Apparently everything I did was shit. Since I'm so stupid.

[iron stratus]

i hope the devs can still do something to fix the offline aic issues

nineteen has to be ragebaiting

we're trying to help, we don't know the issue either

[outer basin]

Yup. How could anyone possibly struggle, this is so easy.

[wispy grove]

bro chill, just separate the xircon factory to the battery one

[outer basin]

Gotta be trolling

[iron stratus]

nineteen send a picture of your factory

then we can help fix it

[solid python]

You can probably help fix desync by making smooth flowing operations with less belts and splitters.

[shrewd knoll]

I dont even think you are struggling with your factory, its more like yourself you are struggling with

[marble yarrow]

i always check these 500 capacity storages for clog. all are clear

[iron stratus]

always try to keep every belt at max capacity if you can, trying to cut them can cause a headache

[haughty wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/rodin-yoyo-gif-4803278

[iron stratus]

cut out the whole production line if you need to subtract a full production's worth of material

[lusty violet]

how about the conduit outlet? does that ever have some backup?

oh

im blind

nvm

[iron stratus]

you can always just paste in the blueprint when you have enough of what you're trying to horde

[outer basin]

And yet other people are making Components simultaneously without their entire factories breaking.

[marble yarrow]

none, since i did 10.5/min and 11/min

[lusty violet]

ahh

[haughty wharf]

Cause most of us here probably already reached endgame

[outer basin]

I did it in 1.0 but being "inefficient" didn't break everything then.

[wispy grove]

yeah because they cut the battery production. They use 10.5/min instead of the usual 12/min

[viral wharf]

I'm managing 11 SC Batteries/min + 5.75 Syringe [A]/min + 0.5 Cuprium & Xiranite Components/min.

[outer basin]

This is what I'm trying to do but everything breaks.

[wispy grove]

like i said separate the xircon factory to the battery one. put xircon in the storage first. if that builds up, lessen the xircon production too

[marble yarrow]

ever since i did this

escape route

[solid python]

Maybe copying a bad system is the issue. 🤔

[marble yarrow]

4 banks wtf

[haughty wharf]

Uhh should we be worried aboit that lc batt

[solid python]

I don't know why it says that. I'm only using 3.

[atomic fiber]

I'm using 4 bank too. but all hc

[haughty wharf]

Im using 10

[solid python]

My power isn't even 6400.

[iron stratus]

i have 4 xiranite lines into depot instantly, then out of depot i have 2 lines into my 1 xircon production line, and 2 into the cuprium component production line. i have my whole yazhen line paused* (you dont have to do this) and i have 2 cuprium refineries/fitters for the curpium components with their sewage going into the xircon line (you can use only 1 refinery of sewage and recycle the xircon crucible's sewage back into the xircon effluent)

*you can place another refinery fitter and a half speed moulding unit to produce half a line of yazhen syringe A and just treat the sewage immediately out. make sure all these production lines are working smoothly in this order:

plants (sandleaf and jincao/yazhen)->xiranite->cuprium parts->xircon->sc batteries->cuprium components

[marble yarrow]

cursed power

[iron stratus]

if your factory is doing the same thing and still not working i'd just start over because it'll probably be quicker

[haughty wharf]

[lusty violet]

u need 1 of each battery

[atomic fiber]

want me to give you the easy ratio?

[marble yarrow]

look what i produce vs the power i use

[atomic fiber]

use the 0.25 gear component

ratio

that one is the easiest

[ruby sorrel]

I wish I could just keep rebuilding my factory without downtime

[marble yarrow]

ok i ran out

[iron stratus]

if you make bluprints for single lines of all the things you need then it's easy to cut out full production lines or reset your factory

[haughty wharf]

Idk man

[solid python]

So it's not just me

[marble yarrow]

steel lmao

[haughty wharf]

I might be overclocking my factory

[iron stratus]

why would you ever do this

who is gonna drink the sewage

[real blaze]

most sane AIC factory enjoyer

[fluid fog]

this time it clogged my system when I make changes in cuprium sewage huh... desync really pain in the ass.

[haughty wharf]

Bro are you selling liquid poo? Lmao

[solid python]

Selling at a loss

Ferrium instead of free plants

[shrewd knoll]

the clients want it

[atomic fiber]

wait wtf i don't screenshot my depot yet

[marble yarrow]

yeah coz they dont let us dump it in the 40k pool

[shrewd knoll]

must be valuable

[solid python]

No they do not.

[haughty wharf]

We need an ocean update so we could pollute the whales

[real blaze]

capitalism wet dream: others pay you to deal with your problem

[iron stratus]

they put a whole sewage pond at the bottom of qingbo stockade and wont let us make our own

is it at the bottom i dont remember

[marble yarrow]

also peak meta transfer (reactor exactly needs 25)

[haughty wharf]

Huffing that blue powder I see

[wispy grove]

what if i make 8 SC/min?

[shrewd knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-gif-18235609

[outer basin]

1/3 Xiranite, 1/6 Cuprium, 1/6 Dense Powder. The problem is that if I do this the entire factory breaks. Further frustration comed from other people being able to do this, and they've solved that problem but clearly I'm too stupid to understand what to do even when it's allegedly been explained to me fifteen times.

[haughty wharf]

Perlica: endmin we need to cook

[wispy grove]

since i want to make other components. let me try that too. ill reset my whole factory

[shrewd knoll]

Then why dont you just divert 1/3 of the sewage to the crucible with the 1/3 xiranite divert to even it out?

[outer basin]

The 1/3 Xiranite is going to Components. Less Dense Powder also clogs Xircon. Less Cuprium Parts also clogs Sewage.

[haughty wharf]

Are you making things in one or sepperatly?

[wispy grove]

thinking all this stuff makes my brain hurt. even if you manage to make it stable online, the offline messes up everything you made. its like a hopeless situation

[dull shard]

can a single water treatment unit treat 2 combined pipes? or will it eventually clog

[outer basin]

Separate-ish. Technically separate lines but I've laid it out in such a way that I was prioritizing compression so there's no room to move anything with my setup. And call me picky or stupid or unwilling to accept help but "the Xircon will just build up in your Depot so worry about it when that caps out" isn't exactly a solution.

[iron stratus]

i think it's 1:1 with the refineries

i could be very wrong but the bps i've seen do that

[fluid fog]

Am going to commit to study pipe system. KEKW

[marble yarrow]

as long as the pipe going to it is worth 30/min of sewage

[iron stratus]

one refinery outputs 30/min

[haughty wharf]

Its less worrying about the xircon and more about the parts to make it because some of the parts you need to make sepperatly anyways so you could actually use them

[iron stratus]

so yeah 1:1 with your cuprium refineries or 1:1 with your inert xircon effluent

[dull shard]

okay.

so treatment is 1:1 but pipes can do 2:1 as a line pass through

[iron stratus]

pipes can do 4:1

[dull shard]

I can combine 4 pipes you mean?

[iron stratus]

yes but you have to split them off later

[dull shard]

oh yeah.

[iron stratus]

but it's good for making clean pipe lines

[haughty wharf]

In my valley 4 and wuling Im really only using one battery maker to power my whole factory but im using the other battery makers to sell them. If you use all your resources you will eventually reach deficits in production when theres a negative apears

[wispy grove]

yeah "worry about it when i caps out" is scary. all i can see is every ore, xiranite and sandleaf have a splitter system, which makes you use even more space

[dull shard]

so red and red- I can combine, while orange is as is already?

[iron stratus]

dont produce excess of things that are intermediate steps to your products

e.g. dont make excess xircon

only that

[iron stratus]

*this is only if you put xircon into the depot

[haughty wharf]

If you have one xircon batt mker and three thermal banks you are fine because the thermals will eventually clog enough to actually sell them anyways

[wispy grove]

excess isnt the right reason. you can have perfect match of current and theoretical data. it will still clog regardless

[iron stratus]

what from? do you mind sending a picture of where the clogs are

[merry harbor]

finally 😭

[fluid fog]

this getting too deep but lets see. AHAHAHAHA

[iron stratus]

make sure it's not acting weird after 20 minutes

[iron stratus]

what are you doing

[dull shard]

what is the goal here

[merry harbor]

ah no

for yazhen water pipes i did a 2:1 ratio

[uneven aspen]

real test is to go offline

[merry harbor]

2 fluids/1 outlet

[slate plume]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

[uneven aspen]

lots of setups break going offline for hours

[wispy grove]

just the offline bug clogging.

[fluid fog]

analyzing whats causing the problem when Desynch

the main culprit is sewage but Am finding what excess amount to clogged the system.

[iron stratus]

luckily they'll fix it in 2 weeks am i right

[merry harbor]

yeah, but im pretty sure i did it right since i did 2:1 ratio for yazhen & sc wuling batt

for yazhen

[outer basin]

This is my Syringe and V4 Battery setup.

[merry harbor]

theres 2 pipes for sewage connected to make sc wuling batt

[uneven aspen]

hopefully this fights the desync

[cerulean matrix]

something tells me this is not how I'm supposed to do this quest

[shrewd knoll]

if it works, it works

[merry harbor]

[outer basin]

There's an infinite water source nearby that you can dump into.

[cerulean matrix]

you're lying

[marble yarrow]

idk why the choice to not dump it in the nearby lake

[merry harbor]

oml conduitless quests 😭

[iron stratus]

that doesnt work

[haughty wharf]

You using too little water treatments

[marble yarrow]

except it does

[merry harbor]

it does work tho

[lusty violet]

[cerulean matrix]

how do u dump?

[marble yarrow]

😭

[lusty violet]

rub a burden beast

[marble yarrow]

son 🥀

[hidden temple]

hell, we've got conduits. dump em in faraway lakes

[merry harbor]

200m is just mwah~

[mortal hemlock]

How do i setup cuprium?

[cerulean matrix]

ah well ive already placed like 50 fluid storage so might as well just keep going

[merry harbor]

the wifi conduits are just heavensent

[cerulean matrix]

😭

[marble yarrow]

bro its the first tutorial we got in water near the AIC lmaoooooooo

[iron stratus]

dont you have to do it in a wuling main mission

[merry harbor]

its better than getting a mountain dew river

[outer basin]

Those are Conduits being sent to the Xircon Effluent Reactors.

[iron stratus]

what do we think the next region's gimmick will be

[haughty wharf]

Oh they are nvm then

[pulsar cypress]

Meta tf the origin block?

[merry harbor]

earlier my reactor was choking xircon effluents cuz lack of sewage

[haughty wharf]

I thought you were edging the sewege way too hard

[merry harbor]

but i just fixed it xD

[wispy grove]

i made 2 observation tests on my offline battery factory:

1. single cuprium refinery(1 sewage loops back to the crucible)
2. dual cuprium refineries( it doesnt loop back)

on my first test. the crucible that is directly connected to the cuprium refinery has a sewage build up. while the other crucible(with sewage loop) have a xiranite build up because of lack of sewage.

On the 2nd test. both crucibles have sewage build up.

Common factor: both battery have Dense originium build up.

[fluid fog]

ahh okay so the Pipe splitting can do both passthrough at the same time, unlike conveyer splitting like one by one. actually it makes sense since its liquid so, you cant do split ratio on pipes

i mean can't

[wispy grove]

my conclusion: crucibles suck at sending output products

[haughty wharf]

If it takes an even number of dense orginium why not only use 2:1 ratio input

[cobalt oriole]

Standard lane setup for those who havent done new TD yet

Deluge (outwards) facing fragger (inwards). Marsh to slow and sentry to pick off stragglers

[fluid fog]

its sucks because we dont have yet failsafe when it clogged or under produce.

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Liquid pipe at same time.. Because its 2 unit water to 1 each..
Belt cant split the item to half each.. XD so one by one..

[crimson inlet]

My monkey brain made the sewage thing have a manual on/off water treatment for everytime you see outlets getting clogged

[uneven aspen]

I fixed for underproduce atleast for the 1-2 hour offline test i did

[shrewd knoll]

nah just more fire and marsh, all the way!

[marble yarrow]

i love the marsh fire and water they look stupid and locked in a same location lmao

[fluid fog]

I know its common sense but even the obvious needs to explain. That's why we have physics. XD

[wispy grove]

Theres a new update yall

Does anyone know what will it be?

[pulsar cypress]

Iirc yesterday some peps say its their kinda try fixing the offline facility lag/died bug?

[crimson inlet]

is this an ok setup haru?

[crimson inlet]

since I'm gonna visit it time to time

[marble yarrow]

wheres the manual thing

[wispy grove]

Then ill just let my facility clog for now😌 ill clear yhe clog after update and make a test again

[marble yarrow]

me i just drag this treatment 1 square up when it needs cleaning

[crimson inlet]

this water treatment

[marble yarrow]

cant help to notice the conduit logo looks like assassin's creed

[crimson inlet]

manually turning on and off

[marble yarrow]

wait true. better

[crimson inlet]

if you see the outlets for the reactors and inlets reaching clogging point, you turn on the water treatment to reduce it to lower than 300 per each conduit lane

so even if the sewage managed to clog things up, it wont necessarily stop the factory, but this thing would reduce the amount of sewage leftover

fuck, I think I made some plumber shit

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1483090075490193458/Endfield_2026-03-16_21-10-02.mp4?ex=69b9fb84&is=69b8aa04&hm=46f0ae562e4fccc857deb8603fad7b342756f5d40b090edf78afdaba07eb2588&

[haughty wharf]

Endfield plumbing industries

[marble yarrow]

this keeps anything building up

the pipes still behave the same way since yesterday lmaoooo

the 3 alternating

[tawny bear]

that's one way to sort overflow :b

[pulsar cypress]

2/3 enter - 1/3 waste?

[crimson inlet]

damn, but I don't want to constantly run a WTU since it will reach to 3.6k energy use (I have another setup for yazhen C)

[marble yarrow]

yeah, since my base is 11/min SC
5 |6 SC
50 | 60 sewage
20+30 || 30+30 sewage

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. Yass.. If for 5/6 sc..

[outer basin]

I give up. I guess I'll try again next patch.

[crimson inlet]

its funni how I only do math in money making and not throughput

[marble yarrow]

reactor sharing is peak

[solid python]

3k power? Do you guys place shock towers?

[crimson inlet]

non zippies, all water drills 💀

[quaint perch]

💀

[crimson inlet]

and towers that uses batteries instead of connecting to the grid

[marble yarrow]

still have tho

[atomic fiber]

we have lots of zipline now

[solid python]

Finally a relatable usage rate

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-15025911402078588721

[crimson inlet]

what is this sorcery!?

[atomic fiber]

this is just my assumption, buy i think the reason the sewage loop back doesn't work right is because floating error

[quaint perch]

look. As much as I love factory efficency and all that... Im not sacrificing my zipline travel network.

[thorny barn]

guys why is the splitter that i circled didn't get an output?

[crimson inlet]

I don't know any of this mumbo jumbo computer coding errors. All I know is 404

[crimson inlet]

I'm dumb as hell

[atomic fiber]

known splitter bug behavior. don't put splitter or converger too near buildings

[marble yarrow]

i avoided this. i tried this first, but yeah recycling it just compounds the problem

[thorny barn]

ah damn, ok thanks

[atomic fiber]

yeah...

[crimson inlet]

what if we use bugs to our advantage?

since its been there since 1.0

[haughty wharf]

I love bugs

[scenic swift]

just do this and it will be impossible for 1 side to get more sewage

[marble yarrow]

you rather put 1 belt after the refiner, and split it into 3 from there. its a better setup

[crimson inlet]

(2)

[atomic fiber]

here is proof

[lusty violet]

idk if thats a bug tho, isn't it more of the output on that side is blocked? so it's forced to pick other sides just from the tick-based system

[haughty wharf]

Lol are they selectable?

[crimson inlet]

wait a minute, I'm actually utilizing a bug... since the splitter prioritizes the water treatment instead of the inlet, both sewages get flushed as a priority

[thorny barn]

idt I have space for that, think I'll just let my yazhen has 5/min instead of 5.5/min

[marble yarrow]

RIP

[solid python]

Yeah, the reactor output can get clogged. You could put treatment at a very slow rate to mitigate the issue. Or just don't use it since we have plenty of sewage sources.

[marble yarrow]

ohh you on 5.5 yazhen too

[crimson inlet]

yes, they act like individual pipings

[haughty wharf]

Thats strange they act like one entity or individual when you delete

[thorny barn]

and I heard they also slow down when we go offline too? bruh this sucked

[wispy crane]

what should i do with these free 30 ferrium?

[atomic fiber]

wtf pipes have priority bug too? 💀

[crimson inlet]

its a now feature

[marble yarrow]

meta transfer ferrium cube and do this

[atomic fiber]

offline stuff is kinda random... dunno, sometimes it work fine sometimes not

[pulsar cypress]

Add 25 extra from meta - make syringe/drink C
Add 25 originium block thing - make v4 battery

Usually..

[wispy crane]

this for syringe c?

aight

[marble yarrow]

yeah. equivalent to 2.75/min

[atomic fiber]

how does this work btw? Just normal setup with 1 splitter work?

[cobalt oriole]

After u get max parts and bottles, make some hc valley batteries by porting dense OG powder for 1.1k extra power free

[crimson inlet]

since the bug makes so the splitter prioritizes pipes over buildings first...

[haughty wharf]

Finally I could play the side quests without needing to complete the main mission

[wispy grove]

Welp no offline bug fixing for now

[atomic fiber]

oh... interesting

[wispy crane]

i got like flat 3.4k power rn, but with extra batery or syringe gotta do the pwm thinggy

[atomic fiber]

they absolutely won't fix anything... i think on the factory. 1.0 factory bug is still here

[crimson inlet]

but I setup my water treatment makes so you have to turn on/off

[iron stratus]

i hope they add inter-regional uses for stock bills because my whole store is sold out and i still have 30m v4

[atomic fiber]

what setup? on/off?

[pulsar cypress]

Try change all the normal mining rig in wuling to hydro rig for some energy efficiency..
If you haven't..

[wary perch]

how do you guys make your xircon components?

[crimson inlet]

I made the piping connected to a water treatment unit, I sorta add it to reduce overflow per day or time

[wispy crane]

ooh free power again

nice

[atomic fiber]

oh... ok 👍

[marble yarrow]

i saved like 120 power at max

[iron stratus]

what is a xircon component

[solid python]

I made one on the edge of my base

[quaint perch]

This is my way

[crimson inlet]

since overflowing would just slow down production instead of stopping, we flush the excess sewage to reduce the time for offline production to slow down per time

We're basically maintaining sewers to reduce clogs and slowing water treatment

[wispy crane]

120 power is enoug for another battery/syringe production?

[crimson inlet]

but without the recycling part

[shrewd knoll]

anyone tried building it almost completely outside of the AIC? the only belt that need to move things are the xiranite and the xircon output

[wary perch]

i made mine with conduit cause the pipes looks ugly

[crimson inlet]

someone did to one of them

[quaint perch]

Today i learned this trick, very helpful in making factory a bit less messy with all them pipes.

[solid python]

I've seen people do it. But there's not that much space out there.

[shrewd knoll]

you can kind of still move them to the edge too and just have the belts move it into the crucible

[crimson inlet]

that's gonna be ass if you change one of the pipes

I tried it, it shutdown my factory

[wary perch]

then, here is my source of black fluid

[quaint perch]

how so? I never had any issues

[crimson inlet]

I can't track my pipes

I somehow needed more pumps

[iron stratus]

ZERO yazhen syringe potential?

[fluid fog]

UPDATE IMINENT!!!!

[haughty wharf]

I had the exact same issue lol

[wary perch]

oh, it's on the other region

[crimson inlet]

the average plumber cannot track pipes

[iron stratus]

isnt there only 120 curpium total though

[crimson inlet]

unless its colour coded or drawn

[iron stratus]

you're in a deficit

your xircon will be hindered

you'll max at like 8 batteries per minute

or something maybe

[quaint perch]

Yea.. Sometimes there is just one small thing that creeps up suddenly and shuts down whole factory. But that trick specifically never confused me. Its just that Im rebuilding a lot, blueprinting copy chunks of my factory. And I always forget something

[shrewd knoll]

aw, they lose their input and output slots if not inside

at least for the belt items

[pulsar cypress]

[crimson inlet]

yeah that's why I make my pipes angular and have control ports to know which is which

[haughty wharf]

For me this trick doesnt work since im always bulk selecting everything and rebuilding from scratch

[crimson inlet]

my brain can't handle memory

it has 2gb ram

[iron stratus]

that's a lot

[bright nimbus]

1 pump produces 2/2s water and each unit uses 1/2s water. Pipe delivers 4/2s water and equally spread them if you split it to 2 first then 1 1, 1 1

[crimson inlet]

until you realize you're playing Wuwa with 2gb of ram from Gen 1

[iron stratus]

dont we only got like 1 kilobyte of memory

[crimson inlet]

is that for pictures only?

I think my memory might be 1kb because I only remember parts of a memory, not the whole

[haughty wharf]

Ram is for things like caches and cookies btw not memory

[wary perch]

i actually put on stash my red ores before, i still like have half a subpac area of stashes left. So in the meantime i'm still like has enough resources from the start of release of new area, because i still not created my new factory farm until yesterday. So currently i'm brainstorming the farm creation.

[quaint perch]

This is still viable. Pipe your water through Depot Unloaders

[iron stratus]

are we serious

[crimson inlet]

fuck, my memory mixed

[haughty wharf]

Yes ssd and harddrives are for memory

[crimson inlet]

I got 1kb corrupted integrated rom

[iron stratus]

you're wrong i hope you know

[fluid fog]

I always back to sewage storage. I should probably make Sewage bottle mmmmm... Nah this gonna do for now.

[crimson inlet]

that constantly transfer hashes from different files

[iron stratus]

ram stores everything your computer wants to readily access

[haughty wharf]

Then delets it or stores it in ssd or hardrive

[crimson inlet]

so I have both a faulty rom and ram

[haughty wharf]

It sounds like you're saying you can install a game on ram Is this correct?

[fluid fog]

YES

YOU CAN

[haughty wharf]

Bro

[fluid fog]

there's like a program that you can put files into ram

[haughty wharf]

Download files WITH ram or ON ram

[fluid fog]

though once the electric gone, All files is gone.

[iron stratus]

your computer doesnt remember what's in your ssd, that's why ssds need a large controller. the cpu always knows what's in ram though

[iron stratus]

yes, you can

i know way too much about computers to get this one wrong

[onyx pier]

3 Ccomp/m is archivable

[haughty wharf]

Ok download with ram or like install a game directly on ram Because it sounds like it

Like a cd xd

[fluid fog]

Technically, SSD or M.2 storage is a RAM but they have controllers to remember data on it.

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/math-gif-24723596

[eternal wolf]

So, there hasn't been a "Solved" for 1.1 factory right? Assuming you're making components, there's gonna be wasted Orig/Ferrium?

[crimson inlet]

Endfield is making us learn math

[haughty wharf]

Technically every part of a computer that can store memory is ram

[fluid fog]

wasted in depot?

making gear component along with other materials doesnt sustain at all, even Valley 4 when you making gears it will not last long.

[crimson inlet]

and become industrialist

[static isle]

Anyone can explain these weird ass dips in production?
If I tried to sit and monitor everything seems fine, the moment I log off there are these slight dips that quicky return to baseline 12/6

[onyx pier]

I use all them up, syringe c, lc batt, so i can spare some coprium and xiranite from sc, a syrin for Ccomp

[fluid fog]

yeah, thats why when RAM price increase, everthing device uses ram Increase.

[shrewd knoll]

we need to min-max pipes with pipe sharing

[livid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[fluid fog]

pipe sharing huh...

[crimson inlet]

I'm scared if I were to go offline

with this

[eternal wolf]

What're your ratios? When I try to calc including meta transfer and using HC batteries to power factory, there's still leftover

[glad needle]

saygex pipe

[haughty wharf]

Btw how much is your ram after the price rise mine got raise to around 380usd I think

[crimson inlet]

₱22,733 if I convert that 💀

[haughty wharf]

💀

[shrewd knoll]

everyone needs their sewage to flow in the same pipe as their clean water

[onyx pier]

9 sc wl battery
2 lc wl battery
3.75 syringe c
4.5 syringe a
3 ccomp
I only use less than 3k4 power so i can save as much battery as possible
Those above are enough to overtrade the stockbills

[fluid fog]

in my country? I buy low-budget type memory, it was like 950PHP (18USD) of 8GB ddr4, now it was 2500PHP (45USD) or more.

[crimson inlet]

the amount of health concerns

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-money-vince-mcmahon-money-wwe-capitalism-gif-23623669

[haughty wharf]

Oh we are from the same country

[fluid fog]

what do you mean health concerns??? FACTORY MUST GROW

[haughty wharf]

Yeah mines 22600php

Ddr5

[fluid fog]

FUQ that almost the same price with my GPU

[crimson inlet]

we're gonna be Du Pont as this point

[low fern]

how it feels to wake up with 0 power

[shrewd knoll]

at least the condiuts still working

with whatever reserves they had

[haughty wharf]

Electric bills be high lol

[crimson inlet]

god I was they have overflow pipes

[low fern]

my blueprint boy just dropped a new video

its copying time

[crimson inlet]

so they don't have a reason to fix the bug

[solid python]

Maybe we should pack an emergency power bank

[marble yarrow]

eyyy mah php bois

[haughty wharf]

Ayyyy pinoy broos

[mortal hemlock]

Agik

[shrewd knoll]

wait, this is genius, it actually does work

[mortal hemlock]

[shrewd knoll]

you can safely converge into same port

since each pipe is their own storage container

[mortal hemlock]

Daming noypi

[marble yarrow]

i tried using mixed liquid convergers. its so dangerous

[fluid fog]

Bro playing with fire

[shrewd knoll]

the converger itself doesnt have a storage

[marble yarrow]

(for different liquids)

[shrewd knoll]

i'll let it run overnight

[marble yarrow]

if its last resort move, then its ok. but if you have space, then stay away

[haughty wharf]

That looks like its going to clogg just by breathing

[shrewd knoll]

because that would allow crucible through put stacking on these crucibles

and make it even smaller

There's really no issue even when both liquids are max

[haughty wharf]

Ah thats true

[marble yarrow]

just run it for long, and offline. if its good then yeah

[fluid fog]

the longer the pipes, the bigger the storage.

[marble yarrow]

but id rather not

[fluid fog]

same

[marble yarrow]

coz u have 2 ports anyway

[haughty wharf]

Im going to make the most janky setup with this long boi

[marble yarrow]

i tried 15:15 sewage+inert in a treatment. only 1 won the fight

because i go offline

[shrewd knoll]

thats kind of a weird scenario

[haughty wharf]

Didn't you have the 1/3 water treatments?

[marble yarrow]

it is. its because of 4.5 SC setup. a single tick mis-balanced everything

[marble yarrow]

its my previous setup that i tried. everything is good now

[haughty wharf]

Ah but at least it doesnt clog anymore

[marble yarrow]

im just happy that not a single sewage stays in the network

but i know clogging occurs on people with 12/min SC

which they might not notice now

(kinda thinking offline miscalcs is worse now in 1.1 due to new things 😭 )

[haughty wharf]

I might got for 13/min SC even though it might clog but Ill work around it somehow

[marble yarrow]

wait is there a maximum offline period that the game doesnt count yours anymore

is it 7 days

[haughty wharf]

Idk I think after a week or so

[fluid fog]

if you really want to not clogged at all and don't bother of kind magic piping, just build another crucible. like 3 but 1 line sharing for 2.

[haughty wharf]

Thats actually what I was thinking

[fluid fog]

it will get low mats but it still in the same process time.

[haughty wharf]

Im trying to make my materials more compressed so I can fit in all the belts and piping for crucible

[covert burrow]

if i want to make the new components, should i cut one from the bottle or one from the componenet?

[marble yarrow]

it would require you to re-balance your yazhen A and SC battery. since if you dont 100% use the cuprium, the sewage will clog

since new component need cuprium parts + xiranite

[fluid fog]

I just throttle or ratio my xeranite and don't bother cutting cuprium materials.

[solemn belfry]

Why is my sherdding unit showing ts?

[shrewd knoll]

witchcraft

originium into buck

[haughty wharf]

Black magic heresy

[paper magnet]

Hi, the pool is 40k deep and 50 fluid storages are like 25k capacity

[fluid fog]

HOLY SMOKE

[marble yarrow]

best would be full-blast the cuprium component (6/min) without reconfiguring your factory ratios, by:

-shutting down 1 line of SC (if you are doing 12/min, make it 6/min), (you will have free 60/min of xiranite)
-take half of cuprium of the bottle maker and convert it to parts (worth 30/min)
-take half of cuprium parts line (since 2 fitting units go to the packaging), (worth 30/min)

then you will have 60/min of xiranite and cuprium parts, run it for like a day or 2

[dim fog]

Hello, need help and advice! How many reactors do I need for Forges + sludge maker?

[cerulean matrix]

yeah ik i can just stash and replace when the time comes

[paper magnet]

😭

[fluid fog]

fluid storage empire

simulation

[lusty violet]

wait.. did anyone else have their daily 300 credit collection reset?

[shrewd knoll]

isnt it like 200

[lusty violet]

oh nvm im dumb i think it was for something else

[dim fog]

Please give advice. Currently I have:
2 forges : 1 reactor = Xiranite ➠
1 Cu refinery+xiranite = Xircon Effluent

I need 1 more refinery for
Xircon effluent+ Fe dust?

[shrewd knoll]

you need to match the xiranite water fluid and then put it in a 5th reactor

so 5 total

2 for xiranite, 2 for effluent, and the final product

[viscid plover]

[torn sedge]

The new factory stuff

is making my head hurt a bit

The Factory must grow

[visual orbit]

indeed THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[cyan inlet]

oh shit I didn't make any of it yet

[torn sedge]

I managed to do it

I might run into clogging issues tho while I'm still working to cap out my component stockpile

but once I get it all sorted out, I can switch over to 100% efficiency tradable items

I get that efficiency is the end-game, but I'm not at the stage where I can run endgame yet

so I'll just have to bite the bullet on it

[cyan inlet]

WITNESS MY PIPELINES

[torn sedge]

I'll need to really do cap my components

cuz I'm not 100% sure if I was running the right equipment even lol

[viscid plover]

[visual orbit]

i only use like 2 pump ngl

and they alr well clogged on water

[dawn flax]

Is Wuling main-AIC-unit-cap at 512?

[torn sedge]

I wanted to have some redundancies on my ore tapping

I just went with 1 pump per 2 water drills

[cyan inlet]

aaw man i didn't notice that

[hallow summit]

Is this good?

[torn sedge]

it wasn't like I was going with a Wave Modulation power grid

and I still need to work on my ziplines on the stockade area

[bright nimbus]

Each pump can support 3 high purity or 6 low purity

[torn sedge]

btw, did they implement the remote gathering for the recycling stations yet?

[uneven aspen]

😔 went offline for 1 hour.

My xircon feedback reactor kept the same amount of sewage.

But the other xir efu reactor connected to refiner went from 21->28 sewage.

so yeah it's clogging up for some strange reason.

[bright nimbus]

U should make sewage line go through tank then

[uneven aspen]

tank? what would that do

[bright nimbus]

It would store extra sewage when there’s delay or clog ahead

500 capacity

Deleting it and reinstalling would vanish those sewage

[uneven aspen]

i just implemented a fix, will go offline and see if it works

[hushed blaze]

Oh wow i screwed the factory so bad.
My originium ran out because i didn't power up the mineral vein

[uneven aspen]

idea is to send more than 1 sewage to xircon effu reactor crucible.

When reactor crucible is full, it send the excess to watertreatment.

[wispy grove]

what are thos number

[uneven aspen]

my syringe A is running on 25/min cuprium bottles

so 25/30 refiner = 5/6

i have 2 sewage lines in SC battery and 2 lines of them

so i send 2.5/6 to each line

2.5/6 =0.416666666666666

well hopefully it works . . . i did this earlier for my other battery working at 66% xiranite(4/min yield)

it works for the underproducing battery line

[hushed blaze]

I kind of confused about the refining cuprium ore-

[uneven aspen]

what about it?

[exotic olive]

is this the ideal production for this patch or is there something better

[uneven aspen]

if making no gearing components it's fine

[crimson inlet]

Monkey wrenching the factory

[bright nimbus]

For me I put all cuprium refining units with sc battery. 10/min battery is working fine as long as I send 1/3 sewage to water treatment unit

[exotic olive]

alright thanks

[uneven aspen]

yeah that's something I didn't try
I limited xiranite to 2/3 not hte sewage.

[lyric whale]

Okay I really wish we didn’t have to wait an hour for a material to be ported over to a different factory. Not sure I understand why they did that.

[crimson inlet]

gonna share some random bp with no codes

[cyan inlet]

fixed it

[uneven aspen]

i did this on the top and bottom reactors

Because the xireffu it doesn't matter if it's maxed on sewage. it will backflow to water treatment unit

[hushed blaze]

Where's water input to refinery? Isn't water required?

[uneven aspen]

you can pipe over the depot bus

[hoary crag]

^^

and it looks good as well

[uneven aspen]

like this im offline rn so website tool to show

[wispy grove]

.

.0

[open wind]

Is there a place where i can just place like 100 liquid tank?

[knotty musk]

Any blueprints to help? Idk what im doing lvl 49

[hoary crag]

what are you trying to make?

[open wind]

Have you unlocked unloader bus?

[hoary crag]

^^ this as well

[young stag]

why so many belts

[hushed blaze]

You have depot bus unlocked in v4 though. Try depot unloader as well to maximize it-

[hoary crag]

most, if not all high level products require you to unlock depot bus and its respective access units

[knotty musk]

Idk i just re-installed

[cyan urchin]

Sorry, just what are you making? AL49 and Amethyst Components?

[open wind]

I would recommend starting from making batteries

[knotty musk]

What is that

[open wind]

SC battery and HC batteries

Then place down mining rigs all over the place to gain raw resources

[hushed blaze]

If you need blueprint, #1461542035617091681

[open wind]

After that you can do drugs and even more batteries

Probably can skip cryston components

[cyan urchin]

Or it's entirely likely they haven't found Sandleaf yet.

[open wind]

[prime anvil]

How much xiranite do you guys siphon off for your components? I'm siphoning 6/min

[open wind]

They have a lot to do

[hushed blaze]

Author level 49 not having sandleaf is... idk

[knotty musk]

No idea what that is

[open wind]

Like 0.375/min ig?

[elder flame]

Cryston is needed for zip lines though, right

[ruby sorrel]

15/min

cryston for big zips

[hoary crag]

they just reinstalled, their valley 4 core aic is still at starter size, and they have no idea what they're doing

pretty much checks out for a returnee

[cyan urchin]

If that's the case, they're stuck at Ferrite Components and SC V4 Batteries until they reach Power Plateau.

[hoary crag]

oh well anyway

[hoary crag]

they have SC valley batteries pinned

[hushed blaze]

Zip tower wasn't really needed much

[hoary crag]

I still have my sc valley battery blueprint but I'm on asia

[knotty musk]

I think i was trying to make bombs before i quit

[hushed blaze]

Let alone uh cryston gear?

[elder flame]

You need like 20 per location

[hushed blaze]

I just use standard ziplines instead of zipline tower

[elder flame]

30 range…

[dawn flax]

cryston zip is 110m standard zip is 80m

[open wind]

Is there a capacity difference between ferrium bottles and cuprium bottles?

[cyan urchin]

And the upgraded zip lines can be chained.

[hushed blaze]

Its the same.

Same goes for cryston bottles and steel.

[cyan urchin]

No, but the new Yazhen and Jincao need Cuprium instead of Ferrite to craft.

[dawn flax]

i use those cryston zip to connect from center-pickup-depot to Powerplant depot-destinations in Power Plateau

[open wind]

Hmm... how much liquid can each bottle hold again?
I want the numbers

[cyan urchin]

All the same.

[hushed blaze]

One per bottle. Applies to all various bottle.

[open wind]

So a full stack equals to 116 liquid tank

[hushed blaze]

Man, so far away to deliver that

[somber briar]

Its like 12 zipline

[dawn flax]

i use 110m-cryston-zips route from : pickup > city center > -split at - > City-depot-2 destinations / up north > that destination

[wispy grove]

I hope i cooked with this fail safe sewage build up

1/s sewage output from cuprium refinery then 1/18 goes to the treatment

why does it have to be like this

[upper fiber]

you better online only 10min/day otherwise not enough sewage

[wispy grove]

its a sewage test

i wanna know if it still has build up

i know its not enough sewage when i go online i just hope it works properly

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-gif-5744244850649843512

[wispy grove]

my crucible is at 50 sewage rn

[crimson inlet]

I've spent all my money in selling SC for money

[wispy grove]

rich

[crimson inlet]

her damage is 5.7k

[wispy grove]

you mean atk right?

[bright zodiac]

definitely ATK

[small creek]

@marble yarrow hey bro, can i ask u if these two function the same? im not that good with alternator

[crimson inlet]

atk

[uneven aspen]

was offline for 42 minutes. and xireffu reactor crucible is at 50 while cuprium refiner is at 0 sewage and 0 at watertreatment.

so it's works offline no clogs

the xireffu reactor crucible connected to xircon sewage seems to be staying at 28 sewage, which it was for the other 1 hr offline test, so I think this should be stable . . .

[crimson inlet]

I'm still poor irl

[lapis crane]

is it component proof?

[uneven aspen]

i was testing my 100% sc battery line.

but yes it is

i tested it already on my 66% yield sc battery

[jolly shore]

I'm not making the same mistake a second time, gonna stockpile a bunch of tradable resources so I'm not 3 days behind on the next tier of prosperity

[bright zodiac]

i hoarded too much and the stash takes up so much space i barely have place to build new facility

[uneven aspen]

you can use battle pass time left and outpost details to match when it ends

[bright zodiac]

dont... hoard too much

[lapis crane]

tbh if you reach the maximum yield very early in 1.0
the surplus add up to trade when 1.1 came out for lower tier items anyway

not sure between 1.1 and 1.2 tho cuz it short

[jolly shore]

I think the bigger problem was that the stock bill bank was empty, I just need to let that fill up near an update

[dim zinc]

anyone know why this kind of thing is happening? no clogs* or idling as far as i can tell
*only for syringes but thats weird too

[bright zodiac]

yea that is easy to max, you can let it capped and not trading.

while keep producing and store them in inactive protocol stash
(not losing money at all while not trading, its the same ratio anyway)

but dont hoard too much of these stash

[bright zodiac]

does the spike only report after when you got online

and then it became stabilized after awhile

[undone ether]

Whats your battery line look like?

[sonic summit]

isnt that spitter in wrong position?

[hallow summit]

Answer yes

[wispy grove]

oh yeah

w8

[dim zinc]

opposite actually. looking at <2hr it was stable until i got online

[undone ether]

Whats the production line look like? Also does it do the same thing with Xircon or no?

[wispy grove]

too late

i ran out off sewage

HAHAHAHAH

[jolly shore]

they need to update the models to include a pipe fitting when you toggle them on, it looks bad as is

[sonic summit]

also also you can add converger here pointing down

[lean stag]

Guys is there a really really small and simple xiranite component blueprint for Asia someone can share with me?

[dim zinc]

this x2 for bats. xircon is also weird

[wispy grove]

no?

[undone ether]

What about AIC report for Sandleaf powder?

[sonic summit]

ah nvm then

[bright zodiac]

not gonna lie, this system kinda stressing

not fully 60/m xircon gonna messed up a lots of things, trying to distribute just a tiny bit cuprium usage or xiranite usage already took too much setup

not to mention inconsistent offline online production

[wispy grove]

Ill turn off the sewage when i go offline. And turn it on when im offline

Like i said its just a test

[lean stag]

Guys is there a really really small and simple xiranite component blueprint for Asia someone can share with me?

[sonic summit]

i just make some looping sewage with conduit act as 1k waste tank and i use 3

[undone ether]

Only thing I can think of (Judging by the universal dips for multiple material) is that the update mightve fucked something up

[bright zodiac]

i made a very beautiful xircon blueprint, perfect pipe, good looking, symmetric, and then i cant add more or to make it produce less, it has to run full 30/m or 60/m

else, i need to add mpre stuff and more power stuff

[dim zinc]

yea that was my first thought. shame if so because the optimization usually top notch

[lean stag]

Yoooo

Guys is there a really really small and simple xiranite component blueprint for Asia someone can share with me?

[undone ether]

[bright zodiac]

its simple enough tbh
(im not online rn so ...) if you can wait

or wait for others

or just search button

[lean stag]

I could wait, how long?

[sonic summit]

meanwhile i was making spaghetti factory

[bright zodiac]

where is your other 2cuprium? seperately?

[jolly shore]

Not on asia, but assuming you've made a xiranite battery facility, you can just add refiners to some of your dense originium powders and reroute them and the xiranite to a gearing unit

[undone ether]

My 2 part lines are on my sub-aic

[bright zodiac]

30m

[lean stag]

Bett

[lean stag]

Nah I haven’t made batteries

[undone ether]

I run my bottle line next to xircon and just run the sewage off to the Xircon lines. By looping the last reactor back into the line and connecting said line to both reactors that need sewage I effectively can run the line with only 1 input of sewage and recycle the final sewage to keep the line running (Similar to how V4 plants work)

[jolly shore]

In that case, focus on making a xiranite forge first (you don't need the stuff after the xiranite section yet)

[lean stag]

I only have one forge rn

[jolly shore]

you can have two until you upgrade

[lean stag]

My base is not that good rn

It’s very very simple

And im bad at building

[jolly shore]

make one then, just cut the one I have in half

but the sooner you can buy a forge upgrade the better

[lean stag]

Is this a fully upgraded base, also I have no depot bus in wuling yet

Idk how to get them

[jolly shore]

there is an owl machine that you can buy upgrades in next to your base. Same as in Valley 4

[hoary crag]

^

[lean stag]

Ooohhh

Ok thx

[atomic fiber]

@crimson inlet trying to trigger the priority pipe. but seems like i can't do it

[hoary crag]

the difference as well is that in wuling, you have to craft and place the depot port and sections yourself

the owl just limits how many you can place

[lean stag]

Okkk

[crimson inlet]

maybe fluid tanks aren't a priority?

[hoary crag]

that's why you see people with different depot bus layouts in their wuling aic

[atomic fiber]

hmm...

[wintry stump]

what're the manufacturing targets for T3 wuling outpost?

[pulsar cypress]

New battery and syringe A normally

[undone ether]

12/m SC batteries
6/m Syringe As
60/m Xircon
120/m Xiranite

[mellow walrus]

Need more sky forge

[undone ether]

Takes roughly
480/m Originium
60/m Ferrium (You get 30/m excess)
and 120/m Cuprium to hit it

[atomic fiber]

i can't seems to trigger the priority no matter what

[crimson inlet]

dang, Its probably the length then

[ruby sorrel]

so what were ppl having trouble offline calcs with? I want to see if I'm getting the same issues

[storm garnet]

😭

[ruby sorrel]

no more illegal dumping huh

[storm garnet]

i use it as a tank

[unborn sinew]

played around with my battery line but go it sorted. now i wait 😄 all items are either equal yield/usage or yielding more then usage. i make just enough to buy out all stock bills/hour

[storm garnet]

i still have only 6k comp and already out of xiranite

this game needs proper priority/overflow mechanics man

we living in the stone age here

[wary perch]

say, Think my setup is good?

[small creek]

cant even see how much battery youre making

[bronze vector]

hi goober

[small creek]

hello stel 👋

[bronze vector]

unorganized messes

[small creek]

wanna see what im up to?

[quasi locust]

maybe just tap xiranite out to a offline protocol stash until it's full? one protocol stash can hold 300

[small creek]

alright, here

[wary perch]

what kind of mess should i fix?

[storm garnet]

i was talking in general, not about what i mentioned before

[small creek]

6/min yazhenA and jincaoC with only 1 crucible and planter-seeder pair

[bronze vector]

it is definitely familiar

[bronze vector]

organizing ur facs and optimize it

[small creek]

previously i had 2 planter-seeders but im trying some alternator tech to cut down even further

if everything runs smoothly, thats another 30 power saved for a total of 85

[pulsar cypress]

Just make compact similar one for 55 ferrium type C..

[viscid plover]

ragebait

[wary perch]

what kind of optimizing? well i could make it into one combination, but having a lot of grass for now still not good for me

[quasi locust]

hmm you can already do it atm using belt tech. assuming both side only need half of the production capacity, the right line will get priority and overflow

[storm garnet]

that's just a ratio, not full priority

[bright zodiac]

@lean stag Have you found your xiranitecomponents BP? or xiranite setup?

[small creek]

this is only 60/min ferrium

[lean stag]

Nope not yet

[small creek]

im making 120/min

[lean stag]

Im trying to fin out jow to unlock aic stewardess in wuling

[bronze vector]

go figure it urself

[quasi locust]

it becomes priority when the input rate is more than the consumption rate for the right line

since it will cap out, and the excess will balance to the left line

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. 30 + 25 from meta storage..

[storm garnet]

say, can you make it so that the left one never gets anything before the right one fills, and viceversa?

[quasi locust]

unfortunately no

[pulsar cypress]

Testing it this morning..
All good until now..

[small creek]

i mean its nice but it wont accomplish what i want

[storm garnet]

that's the point

[small creek]

this also uses 2 stashes and planter-seeder pairs

[pulsar cypress]

Oh, you make full C production also..

[bright zodiac]

EFO01I3A587eA29095o08

This is full Xiranite Comp that takes 60/m Xiranite. Split it to depot/stash to reduce the usage so you can use it to make battery. You might not need too much this production at early of your game when you have thousands of the components and already craft quite essential gear for everyone.

[wary perch]

well as long as it equalize resources, its good enough for me

[small creek]

yea im making it for blueprint

then whoever wanna use can just modify themselves

[lean stag]

Tysm

[quasi locust]

but it's doable using rate differences, just not a turn on/off setting

[bright zodiac]

and since you dont have xiranite setup yet, here is mine. Self Supply, modular one

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. 1 planter swap seed, so the crucible swap production based on the seed supplied..
Interesting..

[lean stag]

Thxxx

[small creek]

the crucible will produce both liquids at the same time, what really swaps production based on seed is the planter-seeder

and then theres a control port to make sure both shredders only shred 1 type of flower

[pulsar cypress]

Oh ya, forget crucible make both at same time..
Like what me use.. XD

Yess.. To sending the right seed..

[wispy grove]

Ready for testing

I hope this thing work

[pulsar cypress]

Scary water contraption..

[wispy grove]

it only separates 0.55 sewage/sec

nvm

i dunno the numbers

[quasi locust]

why treat your waste when you can just empty them out from the depot

[wispy grove]

make the computation for me

[wispy grove]

stacking sewage in depot

[quasi locust]

stack 58000 of them

[bright zodiac]

i cant add more stuff like seperator and filling unit, blame the dev for the tight 3600 power scuff to power whole wuling,

back in the days, 1800 power is already shit, now they make it even tighter now

if i have more power to spend, i will add more facility for tons of things

[quasi locust]

no no, like press that empty fluid button. no separator

[bright zodiac]

i even had to remove whole qingbo zipline

[wispy grove]

where does it go to

[bright zodiac]

nah, take excess sewage to filling unit, save it for later, For later, use that bottle to seperator to supply other things that need sewage

hoard and spend

im so close to 80K all v4 items. Not gonna do wuling (the bottle with liquid variation is cancer)

[quasi locust]

i am thinking like
- prepare 58000 bottles in depot
- one filling unit fill 58000 bottles in like 32h
- once a day, go to depot and press that empty fluid button

[bright zodiac]

[quasi locust]

atm we got like amethyst, ferrium, steel, and copium bottles, so 4 types. i can fill 4 line of fluids

[bright zodiac]

i have the things, i just dont think i want to transfer this

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-realization-sudden-realization-shocked-zoom-gif-25552925

[quasi locust]

oh i forgot cryston, so 5

[quasi locust]

understandable

[viscid plover]

does it empty all 58k?

[quasi locust]

it's like uh, waste treatment plant is 50W, filling unit is 20W. 30W savings but requires daily maintenance

[quasi locust]

i tried 85 and it does

[bright zodiac]

i dont get that part as well

[viscid plover]

okay then aside from making space i dont see much downside to this then
viable startegy

30W is 30W

[silent canyon]

I hate how machines will flash red even if they're operating at 100% efficiency

Is this a bug?

[silent canyon]

Like the machine is outputtinf the full 30/min, but since it's item is constantly is hitting the limit, it flashes the red error sign

[quasi locust]

have to try all 58k to confirm tho

[silent canyon]

But it's depleting the items at the same rate it's producing