aic-factory

[trail mirage]

cupium ore doesnt take much space

[hallow summit]

You already full space at main AIC

[smoky eagle]

like i said

it's constant

no matter which refining unit outputs sewage

sometimes refining units clog n shit

coz i tweak them

the... cuprium ore output

[hallow summit]

I mean you can max space without transfer by this @smoky eagle

[smoky eagle]

yeah lol

[rare moon]

changed my farm layout so i could turn them on and off with ease

[hallow summit]

Don’t have to transfer

[stark osprey]

I managed to get sewege from the sub aic all the way to the main one🤣

[thorny latch]

man I wish this game played decently on my laptop

[smoky eagle]

you don't even have the Xircon maker in that, i can't see it

[charred forge]

hey can someone help me? i have all 8 curpium ore nodes build and each pump is only used by 3 rigs and all rigs are constantly at 50water, i should be getting 120/min based on what i calculated after checking each rig by themself but i only get 90/min as both theoretical data and current data... did i miss something?

[thorny latch]

i'm at my college and I wanna make factory but I can't do jack shit at 15 FPS

[hallow summit]

I do on other AIC

[smoky eagle]

Xircon needs Sewage

[thorny latch]

purity?

[hallow summit]

Here

[thorny latch]

I believe at max RDL you don't get that many pure cuprium veins

[charred forge]

4 high and 4 low

[thorny latch]

oh wait you hooked up the other vein?

[charred forge]

level 9 development level

they all have 50 water cosntantly all 8 of them

[hallow summit]

I make it to 60/min

[smoky eagle]

ye

[hallow summit]

And battery sc 12/min

[smoky eagle]

it's good

[thorny latch]

that's strange

are you sure you set up the pipes properly?

[thorny latch]

I know pipe placement can be a bit jank

[charred forge]

but then all 8 wouldn't have constantly 50 water in them

[thorny latch]

maybe let it spool up? I'm not sure

I'd go over the pipes again just in case, but I lowkey have no idea why they wouldn't work

[charred forge]

i even stashed and replaced everything thinking something might have gone wrong

[thorny latch]

I have the same setup on the 6x vein and I'm producing 90

[stark osprey]

IT WORKS! THE PIPE MONSTER WORKS

[smoky eagle]

I'm not gonna do 60 battery/min i think, so i can get double gearing

[thorny latch]

that's very strange

[stark osprey]

I'm receiving sewege from the sub aic

Now time to do this again but on a different road🤣

[thorny latch]

I wish there was a dedicated depot for liquids

[smoky eagle]

YOOO

[stark osprey]

can you carry the pipe while on the bamboo boat?

[smoky eagle]

the wi-fi pipes?

[stark osprey]

yes

[thorny latch]

wi-fi pipes is crazy lol

[hallow summit]

It is place underground pipe

[stark osprey]

I wanna use the meteo station for the other sewege pipe

[thorny latch]

so damn useful tho, it makes it so much easier to move water and other liquids across factory grounds and the game world

[stark osprey]

the 1st pipe monster

[late relic]

is metastorage just free mats?

[charred forge]

i send these screenshots because i don'T wanna make 8 with each of them having 50 water in them... but yeah i really don'T get it

[smoky eagle]

ye but it looks like wi-fi coz it's not visible

[stark osprey]

yup

[smoky eagle]

there's NO TRACE of underground digging

lmao

[golden sapphire]

well it's 1:3 pump to miner

can u send full

idk what ur problem is

https://tenor.com/view/raha1234-gif-9153721974556340244

[charred forge]

yeah and thats what i have 1 pump 3 miner 1 pump 3 miner and 1 pump 2 miner everythign has 50 water in each rig cosntantly so everything is running at 100%

[golden sapphire]

oh are u just sending

i'm confuse

[charred forge]

this was the original thing i send

[stark osprey]

THE WIFI PIPES WORK ON THE BOAT

[golden sapphire]

is your region maxed

[charred forge]

yes development level 9

[golden sapphire]

hm

[stark osprey]

@smoky eagle

[lusty violet]

how does your cuprium ore look like in the aic report (not the processed material)

[charred forge]

stashed everything rebuild it and still 90/min so i came here to ask for help as this is annoying and depressing...

[stark osprey]

it's exactly 100 meters of pipe

[lusty violet]

thats processed cuprium

[charred forge]

oh ok you are right i am stupid looking at the wrong graph x_X

[golden sapphire]

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/raha1234-gif-9153721974556340244

[charred forge]

yeah sorry to bother all of you and thanks guess that should be enough gaming for me for the day x_X have a nice day everyone ^^

[lusty violet]

[charred forge]

and thanks for the help <3

[thick plume]

Wish i could see how much sandleaf ive "harvested" if buckflower and yazhen are this high

Also, 18 is a hard limit for plots in wuling right?

[smoky eagle]

woah!!!!! CRAZY TECH

YOU TOOK THE RIDE?

lmaoooo

[thick plume]

Thats one way to do it lol

[stark osprey]

I had to do it. IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE!

[smoky eagle]

🫡

[stark osprey]

now I'm trying to finish the 1st battery line before I run out of power🤣

I had an idea but I forgot about the ferium part

[thick plume]

Might have to hijack batteries from v4 if your power goes out lol

[stark osprey]

let's hope not

my dumbass thought it would be a good idea to make it compact the 1st time as well to fit 2 in the main aic

[thick plume]

Oh dang

[stark osprey]

and fit the syringes also

[outer moon]

is there a reason to use xiranite pylons instead of just the regular electric ones?

[thick plume]

Bluetooth power

[stark osprey]

wifi power

[thick plume]

No need to drag a line

[outer moon]

inside the aic?

[thick plume]

Even outside aic

[outer moon]

Don't electric pylons auto connect to the aic?

[thick plume]

Inside yes

But i just use xiranite ones because i have hella excess xiranite rn

[rocky niche]

they are constructed using originium arts. no digging required

[dapper surge]

this setup lag server

[cobalt oriole]

Yeah I’m taking it down tmr I’ve almost accumulated enough for now

[smoky eagle]

is that soo

[trail mirage]

one should cover 2 plot right?

and how many pumps do i need

[somber snow]

1

[hidden temple]

1 pump chump

[left bear]

can you make xircon with just 2 reactors? it worked for a few seconds then got clogged and now i'm not sure

[hidden temple]

the crystal? should be 3 minimum but 5 for full efficiency

[left bear]

5 how

[left bear]

the thing for new batteries

[hidden temple]

a pair for xiranite liquid production, a pair for xircon effluent, then 2 xircon effluents into the final crucible

[left bear]

the sewage is enough to recycle itself?

[cobalt oriole]

1/2

[gentle sentinel]

You need another input

[vivid shore]

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[lusty violet]

this isn't the place to advertise your stuff

[vivid shore]

dunno where

[lusty violet]

general or something

[vivid shore]

for some reason, cant find general since last time tehy moved channels

[nimble junco]

#endfield

[vivid shore]

ah

lol

thanks

[unkempt estuary]

[solar wedge]

This good right?

[jolly shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068447585741848576/1483121248967065821/image.png?ex=69b96fcc&is=69b81e4c&hm=6241640868bd5a0055995d4b473649a79b22e81fd5453657297f150369e67909&

[uneven aspen]

real test is to go offline and wait a while

looks fine? no idea whats going on with that sc battery graph though.

[jolly shore]

check one of your rigs in the second image, the pipe offset might have made it not go into the rig

[teal elm]

Xiranite reaching its limit?

[solar wedge]

Ah I moved things around

[teal elm]

Valley battery production doesn't seem to have enough resources either

[solar wedge]

Ya i realize the metastorage transfer might not be enough

So I just been depo dumping batteries

But its at 3.5k energy use

[trail mirage]

i see space, gotta redo

[solar wedge]

[charred forge]

thanks already found the problem thanks to someone else the problem was i looked at the wrong graph... i took 2 hours trying to figure it out only to realise i checked the wrong graph and the fix to the actual problem that i was trying to fix was a literal 1 block pipe that was missing for the ore to be processed instead of me trying to fix the ore that was actually working

[jolly shore]

at least you found it lol

pipes are finicky

[solar wedge]

Yup

[thick plume]

Ngl that curve is trippy as hell

[solar wedge]

Fixed it

[vapid granite]

Aight chat wish me luck im boutta delete everything and reorganize to make room for new batteries

[barren ingot]

i use this setup for the batteries

[outer basin]

I'm confused on how to set up purple V4 batteries in Wuling. Set Dense Originium Powder to metatransfer. Then use one line of Ferrium to make Parts. Then split a line of Dense Powder into three, then split one of those in half. Send one of the halves back to the depot, then converge the rest to make 25/m line to the Packaging Unit to make batteries?

[uneven aspen]

how much extra yield ferrium do you have?

[outer basin]

30/min

[uneven aspen]

how much dense powder /min ?

[outer basin]

Whatever Metatransfer gives. 25/min, I guess.

[uneven aspen]

hmm can't you just do this then? saw an image of this before

you shouldn't run out of ferrium since it's based off the dense powder

[outer basin]

But then wouldn't that eat into my Dense Powder for the regular Wuling batteries?

[uneven aspen]

but if you use only 1 unloader

that's only 30/min ferrium

[outer basin]

I'm worried about the Dense Powder running out and clogging Xircon, which screws up everything else.

[uneven aspen]

no idea how you setup the xircon.

[vapid granite]

mr xircon

[uneven aspen]

if you have everything except the hc battery setup you should see what extra yields you have

then work from there

[barren ingot]

so you need too make an 30/min belt to an 25/min belt ?

[outer basin]

Idk, do I? That's what I'm asking.

[lusty violet]

are you sending the dense powder used for sc wbat into the depot, then taking it out again?

or are you processing straight from ore > bat

[uneven aspen]

if you're sending dense powder from depot which is all from metatransfer it wouldnt matter to take out 5/min

just send it all out

[outer basin]

Yeah, I'm sending the Dense Powder to the Depot.

[fluid igloo]

If only 1 line of ferrium it won't eat enuf 1500 powder before the meta transfer send a new batch in
The lack of ferrium ratio will slow down the rate it eats the powder, shud be fine

[lusty violet]

that's true ^

[barren ingot]

this reduces 30/min to 25/min while send the 5/min back to the depot

[uneven aspen]

if dense powder is out, the ferrium side won't continue on

and it will go to 30/min usage either way

like my syringe A is using 50/60 coprium parts.

while my coprium bottle making is at full inputs should yield 30/min bottles. But because the packaging unit is bottlenecked by the coprium parts the comprium bottle usage is still 25/min instead of 30/min

[fair flicker]

3 is max right sub pac level

[uneven aspen]

outpost level? yup

[tall fox]

does anyone have a battery saver for v4?

[lone pebble]

?

[lone pebble]

dige ! https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en&p=BFdgTJFw

[vapid granite]

For my xirinite production, i heard i can use water planters instead to compact the size

Which water plant helps make xirinite?

[trail mirage]

wuling plants

[tall fox]

ty idk if it'll help me but seems like it

[lone pebble]

its intuitive , adn easy to understand

[trail mirage]

i just connect this if i wanna make 1.5/m syringe c right?

[woeful hinge]

Is there no way to connect the conduits in top down mode?

[mighty yacht]

nope

have to manually dig the pipe

[woeful hinge]

Damn aight had to make sure

[vapid granite]

Oh okay, i see

you refine then shred

I was shredding then refining-- which didnt work halfways

[lone pebble]

Y-REF -> 2CARBON ->4 POWDERS

[lone pebble]

sry for caps , but i hope u get the ideea !

[slim tulip]

this game doesnt know math thats for sure

[vapid granite]

Yahzen in a refiner makes 2 carbon - 2 output conveyors from refiners into two shredders, which makes 2 powders from each shredder, overall 4 carbon output

[outer basin]

Does the offline bug increase or decrease Xircon?

[vapid granite]

Why your comman and mine period

[lone pebble]

yey finally somewone who can understand in few words what i`m sayng :))

[vapid granite]

God i hate factory games

Endfield lucky they got bad bitches in here

[lone pebble]

whant a blue print for start for all 4 ! ? or u wana do it youreself ?

[vapid granite]

I can do it myself dw

[daring frost]

I just use the wuling batteries for power, wouldn't this setup require a lot of space to get the cubes?

[lone pebble]

mnee

[uneven aspen]

we have more than enough space if you mean resources then depends

[lone pebble]

all W factories fit in AIC + spare space

[uneven aspen]

Im doing the 2-component setup so I have extra originum.

If you have low enough power use in wuling and valley and can get away with sustaining with only HC valley batteries.

you can scrap the syringe C and make more HC valley batteries with the leftover. That extra SC wuling battery can then be sold more than syringe C production.

Unfortunately I was short like 500 power and did not want to turn off ziplines . . . or revamp base to minimize power usage a bit more or hydrorig everything

but if you're minimalist in power usage it should be doable

[daring frost]

if I set up this HC battery for power in my empty sub-PAC, how much originium and ferrium would I need, because Wuling only gives 90/min & I already maxed everything

I have extra originium to spare at least, though not much

also I need 5k power just to be safe

with all the towers and ziplines my current power consumption is already at 4.4k

[lone pebble]

5k power ? i use only 3.5 ! ish just a sec

[uneven aspen]

no idea how you get so low power usage

[daring frost]

I got alluvium towers and such that's why

[uneven aspen]

yup im 4.9k with towers on.

[lone pebble]

u can power them with bat1s

[uneven aspen]

not if you use hte new fire towers

they attack constatnly

they melt enemies and batteries

[small creek]

im rocking 3.44k power in wuling rn

could be a lot less if i strip the ecofarm of everything

[mighty yacht]

everything but that danm brd

[daring frost]

I could but having to check and refill them is a hassle I'm not dealing with

[mighty yacht]

im just glad the marsh gun slows so much

[daring frost]

it's a lifesaver in defense missions tbh

[uneven aspen]

I went from 3 min afk essence farms to 1:20-1:31 with fire towers

they attack as much a sentry towers but constantly on

and you can spam 2-4 of them at enemy spawns

though the last 2 at monitoring center too tanky and movearound 😔

[daring frost]

I have 12 towers in each wuling alluvium

24 total

which eats power

[small creek]

you can have 15 each

[mighty yacht]

they charge at you if you go far away which sucks

[daring frost]

but worth it

[uneven aspen]

I just afk in the middle of 6 fire towers attack range 👍

[daring frost]

well, problem is I build it surrounding like a collesium of torture, so if I go 15 the towers will be too far from the center

[winged oriole]

Close enough for now

[lost yarrow]

can liquid xiranite only be bottled with ferrium bottles?

[daring frost]

any bottle works

[silent canyon]

Do you guys run liquids parallel or perpendicular to your depots?

[daring frost]

I use cryston bottles for them, because I have way too many cryston bottles

[small creek]

sentries are good in wuling and can work from afar

[daring frost]

80k bottles

[small creek]

marsh is also good for keeping them in there

[lost yarrow]

can I use liquid xiranite bottled with non-ferrium bottles in spray mode?

[lone pebble]

USSUALy ove them

[daring frost]

yeah but I'm not going to put 15 sentry towers when I can mix them for maximum pain

sentry towers snipes but slow

plus single target

[lost yarrow]

also, how are you getting cryston bottles without amethyst in wuling? I assume you are transferring from valley iv, but is the opportunity cost of transferring any other possible item justified?

[daring frost]

uh it's from Valley

I just move a bunch of them for easy access

[uneven aspen]

probably manual transfer on teh dijiang swapping depots

[daring frost]

I have 80k of every bottle in valley, except amethyst bottles

[silent canyon]

Say you have depots on the top and you have items coming down. Do you run your liquid machines so that the liquid input is on the top, or on the left?

[daring frost]

actually I just spent 10 minutes in Dijiang manually transfering them using an empty backpack using batch move

got thousands transfered

I got way too much stuff in my depot in valley

[lost yarrow]

depends
I optimize for size, and it can be hard to say what orientation reactor crucibles “should be in” to achieve a result I’m satisfied with. arrangements tend to come from results of fiddling around

[daring frost]

so before I start on Wuling I dumped like 5k of mats I'd need to wuling depot as soon as I unlocked it

[uneven aspen]

im having an issue where the feedback sewage loop works fine when online but slowly lose sewage if i go offline.

any reaosn why?

[silent canyon]

I also learned that certain reactor recipes let you "daisy chain" inputs.

If your reactor only makes one output, you can daisy chain one of the inputs

[daring frost]

not sure, in my case it's the opposite, sewage slowly builds up even though input & output are equal

[shrewd knoll]

the loop works only if you provide it with enough xiranite from the previous crucible

[silent canyon]

You need 3 water treatments.
2 for effluent, 1 for sewage at the end

[reef lichen]

Is 120 xeranite a minute good

[silent canyon]

That's the max yeah

[daring frost]

yes, that's the max

[reef lichen]

Yay

Look at me actually doing an efficient build

[uneven aspen]

so im feeding each liquid xiranite crucible 20/min xiranite

and have the refiner sewage split into 3.

[daring frost]

each facility can only make like 30/min since output is per 2 seconds

[uneven aspen]

2/3 xiranite so the sewage from xircon should be sewage should be 2/3? no?

[daring frost]

honestly idk what's up with sewage feedback

[silent canyon]

I would just have 2 reactors making liquid Xiranite, 2 reactors making effluent, and 1 reactor making xircon

[uneven aspen]

it works fine online but breaks offline 😔

[daring frost]

when I'm online it's equal, when I go offline it slowly builds up

[silent canyon]

And 3 waste treatments

[daring frost]

when I logged back in the output water is already at 500

[left bear]

was a pain to set up but i managed to do it with the 5 reactors forgot who told me already to thank them sry

[daring frost]

but if I plug in water treatment I don't have enough sewage

is this some bug?

[silent canyon]

Are you running 2 refineries?

2 refineries > 2 liquid Xiranite > 2 effluent > 2 waste and 1 xircon > 1 waste

[daring frost]

2 refineries for 2 crucibles yes

so that's 2 sewage for 2 production

1 to 1

[uneven aspen]

my 100% sc battery one doesnt lose sewage when offline

but my 66% one does 💀

[daring frost]

when I'm online it's balanced

I checked, it didn't go up or down

but then I go offline, and the next day it built up already

idk why

[shrewd knoll]

the feedback relies on it you feeding it 100%, anything less would proportionally drop its production since its the only source of sewage it has

[silent canyon]

I think trying to run partial liquids is a mess. I'd rather just craft the lower tier batteries

[shrewd knoll]

the setup i have doesn't drop in production even while offline and it basically does the same thing as yours

but with full xiranite

[weary ocean]

whats the max origium yield in wuling?

[lone pebble]

480

[left bear]

wait i need a second refinery for the batteries? i was reusing one of them to cycle it back

[uneven aspen]

yeah but at 66% xiranite how to handle the sewage then?

[silent canyon]

You don't

[weary ocean]

thanks

[silent canyon]

Run it at 50% at least

I think the numbers would work better

[shrewd knoll]

its already handling it, by default, you should be getting 20 xircon per minute right?

[daring frost]

this sewage thing is a headache

[reef lichen]

Scale if 1 to 10 how bad am I at laying out factories lol

[daring frost]

even when balanced it screws me over the moment I go offline

[left bear]

is there any use for the inert?

[daring frost]

does it only stay balanced while I'm online or something

[uneven aspen]

it eventually goes from 4/min battery to 3/min battery because the sewage slows down

[daring frost]

no, it's just pollution

[silent canyon]

It's way simpler to make a 50% setup

[shrewd knoll]

it will take some time for it to level out but thats how it is

[lone pebble]

U TELL US :p

[silent canyon]

But I don't know how you'd make a 66% setup

[reef lichen]

That seems better

[shrewd knoll]

its just going to be a unstable hills leveling out at 20 per minute

[uneven aspen]

im using the 2 hour graphs

when checking aic report

[shrewd knoll]

the 2 hour graphs are always -1 less usually

[reef lichen]

How many batteries can I make with two sky forges a minute?

[shrewd knoll]

because server doesnt run at 100% efficiency

[daring frost]

6/min

I had to run all 4 to make 12/min

[lone pebble]

6

[reef lichen]

Dang

Idk if that level of efficiency is worth it rn

[uneven aspen]

even if i fill up the crucible with 50 sewage, it will go down to 0

[uneven aspen]

so it's losing sewage when offline 😔

but it's fine when online so this is confusing

[daring frost]

mine builds up sewage, but only when offline

[shrewd knoll]

it shouldnt ever accumulate sewage

[daring frost]

I was online for 4 hours, no build up

[uneven aspen]

gonna assume offline it runs simulation based off decimal

[shrewd knoll]

even with a 100% efficiency, it wont accumulate sewage

[uneven aspen]

and 2/3 as a decimal is not even

[daring frost]

the moment I went offline, it piles up like 1 sewage every 2 minutes I think, that's not normal

[uneven aspen]

that it breaks

like it's thinking .33+.33+.33 = .99 instead of 1

[daring frost]

problem is I don't run any weird numbers

[shrewd knoll]

I just use this and it doesnt cause me problems

[daring frost]

just 100% on everything

so there shouldn't be any decimals since it's 1 to 1

I don't do 66% output or other weird numbers

it's either 100% or 50%

[uneven aspen]

66% output because xiranite needed for gear components 😔

[shrewd knoll]

it can also handle less than 100% inputs

[daring frost]

so the sewage build up at the slow rate every 2 minutes when offline is not normal

[shrewd knoll]

but no less than 50%

[daring frost]

I feel like it's an offline bug or something

it makes no sense how for 4 hours straight there's 0 build up and 0 loss of sewage, but the moment I go offline, 12 hours later I have 500 sewage

[lusty violet]

yea, just like belts/item control ports
tho idk if it's the same reason

[shrewd knoll]

dont conduit the sewage then

[nocturne forge]

my cuprium is negative when i run gearing unit farm, am i doing it wrong?

[shrewd knoll]

i just make it on site and use it 1:1

it should never accumulate

[lusty violet]

are u using conduits to transfer sewage?

[daring frost]

yes

[lusty violet]

ic, im running some tests on conduits

[daring frost]

it works fine even after 6 hours, balance in & out

but it only happens offline

[lusty violet]

yea

[daring frost]

sewage build up is like 1 every 2 or so minutes

if this is a bug it's going to clog my whole factory eventually

my conduit only have 500 + 500 space, plus the 50 + 50 of the output of the 2 refineries

that's 1100 max before clogging

I don't want to have to drain it every time I log in

500 piles up in 12 or so hours

but when online, no pile ups

[lone pebble]

then use it directly

[daring frost]

problem is I'll have to completely overhaul the factory because the pipes can't connect without hitting some facility

[uneven aspen]

hmm there's no downsides keeping xircon effluent reactor at max sewage if I just add watertreatment for the excess for the xircon crucible? I think i will just do that then

[shrewd knoll]

yea, all my refineries directly go into treatment or input, and never accumulate, might be conduit problem if you are getting any kind of build up

[daring frost]

most likely the conduit

this thing's probably bugged

[lone pebble]

no problem what so ever !

[lusty violet]

yea, i used to use conduits to transfer sewage, and even with a bunch of water treatment at the end of the line to remove excess there was still sewage buildup

[daring frost]

problem is if I add water treatment to the splitter then my sewage would drain & production slows

it sucks

best I can do is switch the treatment on and off

hope the devs fix this soon

these conduits are supposed to make things easier, not make new problems

problem is my current factory layout makes pipes a pain to navigate because the refineries and crucibles is in different locations, blocked by other facilities

connecting sewage pipes is going to be a pain in the ass

pipes can go over belts, but not through factory facilities

[shrewd knoll]

pipes can throughput through other crucibles

[brittle vale]

Love new underground pipes

[shrewd knoll]

if its the same liquid

[daring frost]

problem is my crucibles have both pipe outputs full

one for the xicron the other for the inert

[oak wasp]

at first ii thought i wouldnt like the factory but man i love being a plumber

[shrewd knoll]

yea, it would only work with recipes that produce a single item and have available port

like xiranite water, but that still cuts down on pipes

[daring frost]

guess I'll deal with it tomorrow

dealing with belts and now pipes

we just upgraded from factory builder to doubling as a plumber

[mighty yacht]

it makes sense now why pipes irl are never always just stright lol

[reef lichen]

How many refineries for max batteries?

[uneven aspen]

Idea I have in mind to fix.

add conduit outlet from another refiner's sewage combine with xircon sewage.

then split it between xircon effu reactor and watertreament.

since im running at 66% it means the xircon efff reactor cruicble will eventually cap out 50 sewage. But the excess will go to the water treatment.

does this work out?

my smoothbrain cant think this through 😔

[shrewd knoll]

just do a double flow back into a splitter

so it can never clog

since pipes travel in only one direction

[uneven aspen]

no idea what a double flow back is. I never used flowback often

or in any final setup

[shrewd knoll]

like split at the end of your input

and then pull a pipe back into a splitter and converger back into main pipe and a treatment

so if it ever overflows, most of it will get dumped

and the factory continues to work

the way you are doing it now, you get rid of half of it before input

[uneven aspen]

oh so I should do the watertreatment at the end after the xiranite effu?

[mighty yacht]

is this setup with just 1 cup ref sewage source and then the xircon sewage?

[uneven aspen]

1 cup ref sewage but running batter at 66% xiranite

[mighty yacht]

so you're only feeding 66% of the xiranite to the xircon, ic

[uneven aspen]

i have these 2 at 25/min on syringe A im going to conduit to add

that's where the 5/6 0.833 comes from

this side's reactor is getting from refiner going at 100%

also slowly loses sewage . . .

hence why i think offline it's really doing decimals at .33

so .33+.33+.33 = .99

also gonna have to top this one out . . . there's no bottle necks if I make the sewage at the reactor full, just gonna make sure it doesnt clog the refiner

[shrewd knoll]

the thing with pipes is, they don't exactly act like belts do, so splitting them that way doesn't really matter

[uneven aspen]

they don't split 3 way?

[shrewd knoll]

you just want the treatment at the end of your inputs

[uneven aspen]

I've tried that and also lost sewage . . .

[shrewd knoll]

or just give priority to one of your crucibles

since it takes 2 to make it over 50%

have the other one work at 33% and one at 100%

[uneven aspen]

I've combined the 1 sewage from refiner with 2/3 feedback via conduit and pipe converge.

then splitter at both crucibles with the pipe leading to watertreament.

always end up with 1st crucible is 50 sewage, 2nd crucible at 0.

[mighty yacht]

wait, so your goal is to make only 9 a min? im bad at this splitting stuff

[shrewd knoll]

sandleaf addict

[uneven aspen]

10

the issue is slowly run out of sewage when offlineit becomes 9

[daring frost]

Why would you want 10 specifically because that whole mathing is confusing

Why not 9 or 12

Halving is easier than going 2/3

[uneven aspen]

well 6 from 100% sc battery. 2nd one at 66% should be 4/min yield but offline it slowly loses sewage and becomes 3/min

[mighty yacht]

idk if this would work, but maybe 1 source is 1/2 and then another source is 1/6th?

[uneven aspen]

i will try it out and see how it goes

[daring frost]

Or use a splitter, then 1 pipe goes to treatment unit, and the other 2 pipes can be convereged back to 1 pipe for the crucible

That should work to get 2/3 sewage

[uneven aspen]

i first have this made yesterday havent implemented it yet.

will need to tune it so it can do 66% xiranite with the new idea in mindas well . . .

I went online and noticed the sewage feedback failing so was wondeirng how to fix

before implementing this

[daring frost]

Could apply the same to xiranite

[hoary kraken]

How do you even get to this level?

This is bloody mental

[crimson scaffold]

bluetooth water :D

[mighty yacht]

if max production is 12/min and you want 10 a min, you'd need about 83.3% of the max output, so you'd need something like this, which is kinda over the top imo lol. imagine the 100 is both of your sewage sources combined

[uneven aspen]

yeah. . . too complicated

will try out my possible solution from earlier and if it fails it fails

will try out something else

[mighty yacht]

just go 9 and 3 xd

[uneven aspen]

I've been making compact designs like this in valley and wuling . . . so experience?

still takes a few hours

i was working on it on and off yesterday

just thinking about it while doing other things and coming back to it

[mighty yacht]

the oregano dust lines are the most annnoying to compact

i got it down to this

[uneven aspen]

most fun part to figure out too tbh

grinding units are the main annoyance

[mighty yacht]

i plan to combine my batt line and the xircon line when i rebuild my xiranite lines

[reef lichen]

I gave up and just copied someone's new battery and syringe set up

Turns out copy pasting blueprints is ez :p 12/hr bow baybeee

[crimson inlet]

day 3 of waiting the stockade to be rich

[loud river]

For wuling it's 480/m originium as of now right?

[vapid granite]

Can yall find a way to make this symmertrical

[loud river]

this also needs 2x lines of xiranite sand for it to not clog?

to make one xircon

[shell jewel]

correct

[loud river]

And doesn't the new battery use all 480/m originium? So only 6/m is the maximum you can get?

[shell jewel]

new battery does not

[loud river]

I saw someone mention 9/m

20 dense originium powder for a single battery. Isn't that 16x depot unloaders of just originium?

[lusty violet]

6/min sc wbat uses 240/m ori ore, max is 12/min sc wbat

[loud river]

Oh yeah nvd. I was counting it twice since you need 2 xiranite lines for one xircon

[nocturne forge]

for sc battery i need 1 xircon line and 4 powder lines??

factory gonna look goofy 😭

[shell jewel]

I personally just went with having 1 SC 1 LC, the ferrium overconsumption is just from running a Yazhen C line with control ports to take 40k at a time.

[vapid granite]

Someone show me their Wuling SC battery farm, i need to see how large it could get so i can get an idea how to properly compact tmy AIC

[shell jewel]

not the best but it works, people will say "but space", I have a ton of space left over but can't place anything because I'm at max placed buildings lmao.

the only thing I'm not making here is the new components because I'm going all in on Yazhen A.

but that would only require me to move like 2 things slightly to let my Parts from the yazhen line 50/50 into a depo as well

[edgy juniper]

Why can't I put buckflower in seed machines in wuling anymore

And why do the machines need water now

Ts is so ass

[shell jewel]

there's a toggle on the top right to turn water mode on/off

when off, valley 4 plants work, when on, wuling plants work

[edgy juniper]

Oh shit tysm

[shell jewel]

also there on things like refiners now with the introduction of Cupium

[edgy juniper]

Can I make carbon using yahzen and sand flower?

[edgy juniper]

Oo

[shell jewel]

yes and it's the preferred way

[shell jewel]

wuling plants give 2 carbon vs sandleaf only giving 1

[edgy juniper]

Oh shi

[vapid granite]

Chat what is resttricted

I ONLY CHANGED THE NUMBER

[mighty yacht]

the word "custom" is banned too

[jolly shore]

censors are weird

[iron stratus]

i have a 50x20 area under my xiranite production what should i put there to mostly fill the space

[iron stratus]

my sub pac is also in there i should mention

[vapid granite]

How many ferrium outputs can we have again?

[shell jewel]

In Wuling? 3 without overdrawing

[vapid granite]

are you FR?? It was 3???

It still is 3???

[shell jewel]

yes

30 per output, 90 yield, + whatever you get from metastorage transfer

[iron stratus]

can i compress my xiranite line more than 25x15

[outer basin]

I'm still very confused on how to integrate Components. I get that I need 2/6 from Xiranite, 1/6 from Dense Powder, and 1/6 from Cuprium Parts. That's the easy part. However, I don't know how this affects the rest of the factory and where I need to protect it.

[shell jewel]

is that just a single line?

[iron stratus]

yes

[devout fulcrum]

Chat how do i put splitter outside aic factory

[iron stratus]

i know if i moved the plants i could get way smaller but i dont want my core to be cluttered

[iron stratus]

you just place it

it's as simple as placing regular pipes

[devout fulcrum]

mb i mean where can i find the splitter cus im so lost

[iron stratus]

oh mb press z and go to logistics when in build mode

[shell jewel]

you SHOULD be able to.. I was able to fit 2 lines in a 27x19 spot

[fair flicker]

#1464202880410980472 message

I am following this but productions are so messy can someone pls check out i am just done for

[devout fulcrum]

ahh thank you so much

[iron stratus]

any more than 25 either side i cant fit in my outpost

and i need to include both plant productions

[loud river]

Starting to make my factory. How do we get rid of this?

[shell jewel]

water treatment facility

[iron stratus]

send a picture of your factory

[iron stratus]

make sure all your reactor crucible outputs are correct

[fair flicker]

DIDNT UNDERSTOOD

[loud river]

Just connect it and that's it? Basically deleted fluid or do I have to dispense that?

[mental crypt]

Gets deleted

[loud river]

Ok ty

[fair flicker]

I JUST COPY PASTEWD so idk

[iron stratus]

i feel like that blueprint wouldnt work anyways

isnt one of those reactor crucibles doing absolutely nothing

[tall fox]

just use this one fr
https://youtu.be/_GAPuYjs4JI?si=rdptvmdv_o9Nsodm

[vale cairn]

What's the maximum wuling syringe/battery production now?

[iron stratus]

that whole thing is really confusing i'd just use a better bp

[iron stratus]

12 sc 6 syringe a and 6 syringe c at once i think

or 6 sc 6 lc 6 syringe a 6 syringe c i've seen before

[fair flicker]

in the image i followed is doing

[lusty violet]

2.75 syringe c with metastorage ferrium

[fair flicker]

i just copy pasted it but for me its aint working

[lusty violet]

12 sc, 6 syringe a

no components

[iron stratus]

i need 1.3 sandleaf lines for each sc line right

[crimson inlet]

you need to go at each crucible and set the fluids to their correct piping by color

like Liquid xirenite to the orange output of a crucible

if its not that issue, check the required resourcing facilities such as water pumps and drills

• regional development level

[round barn]

is this fine, my aic power keeps going back and forth from 100% to 30%

[mental crypt]

As long as you aren't hitting 0, it should be fine

[rain schooner]

is there a way to check your aic report while not in the AIC?

wait nvm

[crimson inlet]

gotta ask for others, does a single reactor crucible (that's only eating one line of yazhen/jincao plant) efficiently pump out a solution per 2s?

[tall fox]

anyone have a better battery saver for valley 4 than this one?

[crimson inlet]

use DIGE

[rain schooner]

also I can confirm there is something def wrong with the aic when offline. My cuprium almost capped out again even tho everything was steady (grey usage i.e 120/120). I dont know if the math in the game is wrong but the rates at which you collect or use are not 100$ accurate

[tall fox]

well thats what I got using DIGE but it only goes down to like 70%

[crimson inlet]

what's your target power?

[tall fox]

5385

[round barn]

is there battery saver that hits 1% then goes back up to 100%?

[crimson inlet]

so, you set 5385 in the dige website?

[tall fox]

yeah

[lusty violet]

more important to look at how long it stays at 100%, rather than how low it goes down to

how low it goes down to can depend on your target power

basically, how big a deficit you're running when the oscillating thermal is off

[haughty wharf]

How many pipes does water treatment work on?

[lusty violet]

treats at 0.5/s

so 1/4 a full pipe capacity

[crimson inlet]

tried to set it, calc wont want lower than 50%

[iron stratus]

does anyone have a compact 3 sandleaf line bp

[haughty wharf]

Thanks

[crimson inlet]

tired to min bat % to 2 and it got low to about 13.6% of stored power

[crimson inlet]

try this

[lusty violet]

dont do that lmao

not worth, just run with 1 oscillator

[tall fox]

oh so I would need to either be closer to 5700 or 4600 right to have it be a lower battery %?

[tall fox]

oh thanks I'll try it

[crimson inlet]

I see no point in making am oscillator in the first place

if you can bankrupt 3 outposts with a snap of a finger

[lusty violet]

dont be too concerned about how low the battery goes
again, just look at how long it stays at 100%

[crimson inlet]

and have not loss in production

[tall fox]

ig ur right

I just hate wasting them

[outer basin]

I'm so frustrated.

[lusty violet]

why? components?

[crimson inlet]

you would only use DIGE in wuling

[outer basin]

Either I don't understand a single thing about the factory, or even slightly touching it makes everything just break.

[lusty violet]

what r u trying to do

[outer basin]

Like if I take Cuprium Parts, then that also makes the Cuprium back up, which reduces the sewage being made, which affects every other fucking thing in the factory.

[tall fox]

but I have all this free space so I might as well do something with it

[wet steeple]

🙁 all of this factory stuff confuses me, but i dont wanna stop playing the game because of factory issues

[outer basin]

If I take Xiranite, that reduces Xircon production, which makes sewage back up, which then makes Cuprium back up, which affects every other fucking thing in the factory.

[vapid granite]

How much culprium output can we use?

there was like 8 mining ores so i assume 8 outputs?

[outer basin]

If I take Dense Powder, that makes Xircon back up, which makes sewage back up, which makes Cuprium back up, which affects every other fucking thing the factory.

[rain schooner]

great new additiona right? (sarcasm obv)

and they are gonna add a red liquid next patch

hurray (sarcasm again)

[tall fox]

can someone explain the branching section on DIGE because I don't understand that part

[silent canyon]

My factory barely just uses more than 1 SC battery thermal. Should I craft 12 SC battery per min, and use 2 thermals?
Or should I instead craft 9 SC battery and 6 LC battery, and use a thermal with one of each

[iron stratus]

you should only need one sc thermal

[silent canyon]

I guess this also consumes 9 dense Originium, which is a perfect set of 3

My factory uses 3.8k power

[rain schooner]

you can. thats what I did and its stable.

it might jump up to 4 batt usage per min but for some reason when i logged in today it dropped down to 2 or 3

something is wrong with the system.... 🤷

[silent canyon]

The battery usage thingy is very jumpy because it uses 1 every 40 sec, idk how often the aic report calculates but that's probably what makes it jump up and down

[iron stratus]

do depot loaders use power

looks like they dont

[outer basin]

I also don't understand why I can't get anyone to explain to me what changes exactly I need to make to my factory to make Cuprium and Xiranite Components at once. People are clearly doing it, but I don't understand what the hell I'm supposed to do to make sure everything doesn't break.

Okay, then, keep your secrets.

[uneven aspen]

👍

[outer basin]

👍 That doesn't tell me what changes I need to make to my factory to make sure everything doesn't break. 👍

[uneven aspen]

things that want cuprium parts:
syringe A, cuprium gear components

things that want xiranite:
xiranite gear components, cuprium gear components, sc wuling batteries.

things that want ferrium and originium: sc wuling batteries, syringe C.

1.1 is an upgrade in difficulty because you have to mix between different productions.

[outer basin]

👍 That doesn't tell me what changes I need to make to my factory to make sure everything doesn't break. 👍

[ruby sorrel]

if you take cuprium comps you have to figure out how much cuprium parts you're removing from the yazhen line, and split that amount into making bottles and parts to feed into the yazhen line

[uneven aspen]

the point is everyone is going to have different configs and mixes...

[ruby sorrel]

otherwise you'll have an unbalanced amount and it'll eventually break

[outer basin]

Wow that's almost like what I'm asking.

[uneven aspen]

forgot originium mixes between sc wuling and xiranite gear.

[ruby sorrel]

for the xiranite problem, taking originium shouldn't be an issue, but your sewage will back up because one of the reactors making effluent is now taking less sewage

[outer basin]

Dang that's crazy. So how do I fix it and where do I fix it.

[ruby sorrel]

you can solve this by doing something like this and taking the small part into the treatment of the <100% effluent reactor

because the xircon will produce for example 11/12 sewage, but the sleepy effluent reactor will only need 5/6 sewage

[outer basin]

Also taking Dense powder does break things because it reduces Xircon being used which backs up everything before it, including Cuprium because the Sewage isn't being used as much.

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but the problem is only from the sewage

the originm backing up doesn't break anything by itself since you're taking it along with xiranite unless you're making valley batteries

[outer basin]

I don't know what's going on in that image, or where it's at, or how it solves any problems, or what problems it solves.

Also I'm making Valley batteries with Dense Powder Metatransfer.

[uneven aspen]

we have no idea or context of your factory

[outer basin]

So help me help you help me.

Instead of dancing around and answering nothing.

[ruby sorrel]

sewage problem comes from xircon producing more sewage than effluent wants if you're running it <100%

so you need some sort of overflow into a treament plant

[outer basin]

Clearly I'm too fucking stupid to understand.

[uneven aspen]

so the sewage feedback slowly losing sewage when offline seems to be fixed for me

[ruby sorrel]

you're taking xiranite away from the batteries to make comps yes?

or whatever the xiranite is doing

if you make xircon at less than 100% efficiency you are no longer using up 1 sewage/second

that extra sewage needs to be shoved into a treament unit

[haughty wharf]

Do I need two water treatments or is this skinny boy good?

[ruby sorrel]

1 per machine running at 100%

[haughty wharf]

Nice

[solid python]

Also, if you're treating too much sewage, it'll slow down your production downstream.

[uneven aspen]

1 refiner = 1 sewage every 2 seconds
watertreatment = clean every 2 seconds

so you want 2

actually i didnt notice the splitters at the unloaders

you want two if it's 100% on both refiners . . .

[haughty wharf]

Oh ok adjusting pipes is a pain

[young stag]

woke up today to a dead aic

gg

even my sc wuling reserve is out

[haughty wharf]

Gg lol

[vapid granite]

How is this clogged?

Wait its clogged, how many facilities can water activate? I thought it was 2 and i have 2 in

ah wait nvm dont tell me anything i know the problem

[young stag]

wish we got more fluid gameplay

[iron stratus]

only 1 refinery for a xircon line?

or is it 2

[shrewd knoll]

you just need one but you can opt in for 2

[uneven aspen]

xircon produces sewage, you can feedback to one of the xir effu reactors. So you only need 1 refinery.

If you dont wanna do feedback you will need 2 refiner

[shrewd knoll]

you still have to refine the cuprium somewhere

[vapid granite]

Damn looking at he SC battery formula makes me wanna cry

i actutally am tearing up

[iron stratus]

can only one inlet be connected to an outlet at a time

[uneven aspen]

sewage feedback was fixed to working fine in offline.

but the refiner one broke and had sewage blockage 😔

Looks like watertreatment went over 1 so it failed.

[uneven aspen]

yup and they can only move 2 fluids/sec

[ruby sorrel]

you should merge the sewage with the inert xircon

that one will have enough room

[uneven aspen]

nah the 5/6 sewage on the top left, I just split it in half

so 2.5/6 extra sewage, water treatment is under 1

now i go offline and hopefully it works 🙏

[inland epoch]

is there a limit how much a pipe can be split?

[formal gust]

Does anyone have a yazhen syringe blueprint that does'int need dpot bus?

[inland epoch]

can't u just copy any of them and route them to non-dpots?

[formal gust]

I coppyed one blueprint but i cant place it bc it has the depot bus output thing and it won't let me place it without the dpot bus

[inland epoch]

oooo

[formal gust]

Wait nvm i do have the bus thing i just didint realize lol XD

[vapid granite]

How many Culprium outputs can we have?

[vale cairn]

Is sewage coming out of xircon production reactor enough to fuel the xircon effluent reactor?

[upper fiber]

too much

[uneven aspen]

yup

[sonic summit]

Some pipe magic

[ruby sorrel]

it's so weird how everything is fluctuating except the sc batts

[vale cairn]

So I suppose it can take some sewage from some culprium refiner somewhere, then disconnect for that for a "closed" loop?

[ruby sorrel]

but it seems to be working fine at least

[ruby sorrel]

no you need 2 sewage in for 1 sewage out

[uneven aspen]

yeah this is a pipe converger, I just have a fluid tank of sewage to fill it a bit

[vale cairn]

Oh... so it's not really enough

[uneven aspen]

it is enough

im saying when setting it up

having some extra sewage just in case

for liek when you go offline it can get wacky

[ruby sorrel]

I mean just look at the formulas

[uneven aspen]

no different from filling up the planter/seeders with sandleaf/sandleaf seeds so it's not constantly 0-1-0-1

[vale cairn]

But that's 2x for 1x, so it's not directly scalable

[ruby sorrel]

you cannot run xircon without sewage input

[uneven aspen]

enough for 1 xireffu reactor, still need sewage to the 2nd one

from a refiner

[iron stratus]

i spent 8 hours trying to lower my power usage and im still somehow higher than i was before

im cooked

i even had like 3 more production lines before

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I tried organizing my stuff by rebuilding and ended up hitting facility limit instead, so belt mess it is

[mortal hemlock]

what should i sell for wuling?

[upper fiber]

what you can sell

[outer basin]

I spent 8 hours trying to understand components and made no progress.

[mortal hemlock]

yeah im asking what to prpduce so i could sell it

currently i was doing the jincao cuprium and i cant sell jt so jm lookiny for another product

[upper fiber]

check it on outpost what you can sell

[mortal hemlock]

the syringes ig and the batteries

[upper fiber]

yup

[mortal hemlock]

Whats the max output i can muster then?

[upper fiber]

12 sc bat 6 yazhenA

+3 jincao drink

[mortal hemlock]

Oh we have 480/min yield now

That means 12 unloaders, with 2 surplus

[upper fiber]

your outpost lv3 yet?

[mortal hemlock]

Ye

Im just starting to develop the aic and subpac again

Btw why are people saying that other plants can produce 2 carbon incant see it in the refinement unit

[uneven aspen]

wuling plants is 1 seed 2 plants

[uneven aspen]

valley is 1:1

[young phoenix]

how do y'all maintain a consistent 120 usage/yield of cuprium , cuz eventually it'd bottom out and sewage production stops because cuprium storages are full

[uneven aspen]

refiner for plant

opps better screenshot

you might need to do it once to see the formula.

might be hidden

[outer basin]

Yahzen Syringe A. Two Cuprium for bottles and two Cuprium for Parts.

[mortal hemlock]

How many “units” of water can i power in the wuling subpac.

[shrewd knoll]

sell the medicine first, you will always have a way to to remove cuprium

[shrewd knoll]

as much as you need, you can bring water from outside the outpost

[outer basin]

I didn't even think about that. If batteries or syringes cap, the entire factory breaks.

[ruby sorrel]

you could be crazy and just delete cuprium from the depot instead of using it

[mortal hemlock]

I kinda need like fourteen

4 cuprium makers, 3 forge of the sky, 4 something

[shrewd knoll]

theres a huge river like outside, just conduit them in

[outer basin]

This is so frustrating

[mortal hemlock]

Idk

Alright

[shrewd knoll]

its a pain, but you can only fit 5 pumps inside the actual outpost

[ruby sorrel]

you should only need 10 max unless you're making a lot of extra stuff

[shrewd knoll]

then you just need to add 2 more pumps

then you have enough water for 14 facilities

[silent canyon]

My factory broke because I capped out on Cuprium parts, so my batteries stopped producing 😭

My factory stops making medicine and instead makes excess cuprium parts while crafting gear components

But if I'm crafting batteries and medicine I think it shouldn't have any problems

[outer basin]

Mine is working with batteries and syringes but I have no idea how to integrate Components and it's so fucking frustrating.

[silent canyon]

I've now rerouted so that if I cap out on cuprium parts, it starts making bottles again

[south oasis]

y'all use those gold marsh fraggers for energy alluviums?

[silent canyon]

So now it can craft medicine while crafting components

[slow canyon]

If you have any feedback on the update, happy to hear. I haven't seen anyone complain so I assume the 1.1 update is working as intended! 😄

[south oasis]

They're amazing for outpost defence challenges ofc but their attack area feels so weird

[shrewd knoll]

Just put a bunch of marsh turrets too, they kinda stack and literally snares enemy, making them unable to move

[fluid fog]

The problem of not making full 12/m SC battery or only 6/m. U need to a overflow sink of cuprium, like making it all Yazhen A, if not then you will suffer from clogged from other mats like Cuprium parts though if your prosperity is 3, you can sink Coprium Parts not sure about the bottle.

[silent canyon]

What I did is I have an item control port set to craft 5k components.
I have 2 cuprium refiners going into a protocol stash, going into cuprium fitting machine which feeds into the gear crafter.
While crafting gear components, the refined cuprium goes straight through the protocol stash.
When it reaches 5k the fitting machines stop, and now the refined cuprium stays in the protocol stash long enough to be sent to the depot. The only part of my factory that requests refined cuprium, is two ports leading into a molding machine to make bottles. This makes it so medicine automatically is crafted when gear components are not being made

[south oasis]

[ruby sorrel]

there's no xircon production in the sc battery reqs?

[mortal hemlock]

Do the water sources supply two facilities with constant water? Or three?

Or it depends on the facility?

[uneven aspen]

you can sink all of them in delivery packages

[mortal hemlock]

I connected three refineries to one water source and theyre not outputting properly

[uneven aspen]

TIL yazen powder ->refining unit -> 2 carbon powder

new formula unlocked for me

[silent canyon]

You connect 2 pumps to 1 conduit. The 1 conduit can then power 4 machines that take water

[mortal hemlock]

So its incorrect to only connect one pump to 1 conduit

[silent canyon]

Yeah it's 2 to 1

[mortal hemlock]

Alright

[uneven aspen]

1 conduit to 2 machines you mean.

[crimson inlet]

gonna ask, if I have a crucible making both xircon effluent and a solution, would it produce the solution in a stable efficiency?

[mortal hemlock]

Whats the loop for yanzhen plants?

[silent canyon]

Nah 1 pump powers 2 machines.

Each pipe can handle up to 2 pumps, or 4 machines

[slow canyon]

Hem... that seems to be bug indeed

[crimson inlet]

I'm planning on having this updated to produce seperate instances of yazhen or jincao solution for S and C production

[mortal hemlock]

Oh

Ok

[mortal hemlock]

Not recommended to do two loops like sandleaf?

[slow canyon]

Thanks for bringing that up, I'll see what's that about

[outer basin]

At this point I'm going to have to rebuild my entire fucking factory again. Between not understanding how to integrate Components and finding out storing Dense Powder is bad, my entire setup is just shit because I'm too fucking stupid to understand this fucking game.

[uneven aspen]

wuling planters give 2 plants

[mortal hemlock]

Like planter <-> seeder -> planrer

[uneven aspen]

so you only need 1 planter and 1 seeder

[mortal hemlock]

Coolcool

[uneven aspen]

1st plant goes back to seeder, 2nd plant goes to whatever

[silent canyon]

The component is purposefully made to not be allowed to craft at ratio because it's not intended to be an item you craft 100% of the time

[silent canyon]

You just accept that while crafting components, your factory runs slower

[outer basin]

Yeah and I don't understand how to make it so my entire factory doesn't break.

[silent canyon]

And when it's done, your factory goes back to full speed

[uneven aspen]

trial and error, I just figured out my factory not breaking

[outer basin]

I've been at this for 9 hours and I'm frustrated and pissed off.

[uneven aspen]

sewage is fine now no blockages and not leaking

took multiple days

[outer basin]

And no one will fucking help.

[silent canyon]

Also, I don't think storing dense powder is bad. I make all my dense Originium powder in the Jingyu valley and then port it to core AIC

[mortal hemlock]

i personally start small scale

[crimson inlet]

what components are you're trying to make?

[outer basin]

Meanwhile everyone has perfect factories and won't share how this shit fucking works.

Guess I'm just too stupid to help.

[ruby sorrel]

??? I just explained to you earlier if you didn't get it ask follow up questions

[mortal hemlock]

fuck you sandleaf i have a new friend

Btw do i have other ways to do dense cardon powder?

[outer basin]

I guess I'll just not make gear during 1.1.

[mortal hemlock]

What doesnt work?

[wispy grove]

7 hrs wasted

[outer basin]

Everything.

[crimson inlet]

if its cuperium parts, you need 2 xirenite and 2 cuprerium parts line, which requires:

• 2 xirenite production setups
• 2 cuprerium parts production setups.
  ≠ (if themself) 2 water treatment units.
• Multiple water pump line for the cuperium parts production (connect to the refineries, not parting units) and Xirenite Production setups.

[wispy grove]

I just woke up

[shrewd knoll]

you can always just make 6 SC/ 6 LC battery with a lot of spare resources to make other things

no one forcing you to make 12 SC batteries

[uneven aspen]

what broke?

[mortal hemlock]

heres my simple component

for the gear

[ruby sorrel]

you can't make 12 with comps anyways

[crimson inlet]

my advise is to make gearing components up until you're reasonable with the amount, then remove and start capitalizing

[mortal hemlock]

i believe we cant do everything for now

xiranite is ported somewhere else but im still fixing my base

[outer basin]

Then no bills to buy the upgrade thingies or craft gear.

[shrewd knoll]

it will still empty the outpost bills

[silent canyon]

You don't have to go all or nothing

[shrewd knoll]

as long as you use the remaining resources

[silent canyon]

You can make some gear, and some batteries

But you can't make both at ratio

[uneven aspen]

most simple way is to make max xiranite components, then max cuprium components

then just have 2 SC battery and 1 syringe A and done.

[outer basin]

I know. Once I try to make Components everything breaks and nothing gets made.

[ruby sorrel]

yes you can

[uneven aspen]

assuming xiranite components were done before patch, just miss 3 days of outpost stockbills

[silent canyon]

Hell, even one component factory running at 50% should be enough to suffice

[ruby sorrel]

it just takes a bunch of splitters

[hoary crag]

lol

[outer basin]

Hell, just taking away 1/6 Cuprium Parts from Syringes breaks everything

[hoary crag]

you can?

it's really just about dividing your xiranite well

[ruby sorrel]

if you take 1/6 parts away from syringes you need to split 1/12 cuprium away from the bottles to make more parts

[outer basin]

I don't understand how people are doing this and no one will explain it.

[silent canyon]

Sorry, you can't make batteries AND medicine AND gear at the same time

At ratio

[hoary crag]

explain what exactly?

[ruby sorrel]

maybe read instead of just saying no one will help

[atomic fiber]

what you guys doing here

[outer basin]

I said I know. This is the problem I'm trying to solve.

[ruby sorrel]

but the point is you can?

[hoary crag]

you can tho?

it's my current setup rn

[outer basin]

How to make Components without the entire fucking factory shutting down.

[hoary crag]

what's your current line

[atomic fiber]

yeah you can. but you need to adjust it at the right ratio

[hoary crag]

we'll start from there

[lapis crane]

also they are running pipe straight into sewage xiranite system

thus low rate of xiranite from making components actually clog entire thing in

[atomic fiber]

component is usually depend on your SC battery production

[silent canyon]

But medicine at ratio takes 120 cuprium no?

That leaves none for gear

Unless you run medicine at 50%

[ruby sorrel]

as long as you make 1 bottle per 2 parts going into the medicine line it doesn't matter

[shrewd knoll]

you only need like 0.4 gear per minute, you dont want it running anywhere near 50%

[atomic fiber]

you can run it at 0.5 eff or 0.75 eff, or you name it. you don't need to use full 120

[hoary crag]

you can still make gear at 50%

this would leave syringe A at 75%

[shrewd knoll]

even less if you are making the xiranite one as well

[mortal hemlock]

Btw one yanzhen producer can power up how many forge of the skies?

[silent canyon]

Okay we have different definitions of running at ratio then

[hoary crag]

just allocate one of the cuprium from syringes towards making components

[silent canyon]

My definition of running at ratio is machines running at 100%

[ruby sorrel]

so if you take away X cuprium's worth of parts to make components you need to split your 120-X in a 2:1 ratio into the medicine line and everything works fine

[mortal hemlock]

Is it incorrect to assume a single yanzhen loop can supply one forge of the sky?

[ruby sorrel]

idk what other "at ratio" you're talking about

[hoary crag]

it can

[crimson inlet]

same

[hoary crag]

it's what you're supposed to do instead of two sandleaf loops

[outer basin]

Then Cuprium gets clogged which stops sewage generation which stops Xircon which stops batteries which stops power entirely.

[ruby sorrel]

that's not at ratio that's at 100% building efficiency

[crimson inlet]

it can supply 2, actually

[ruby sorrel]

which is necessarily at ratio as well ofc

[hoary crag]

how does cuprium get clogged in this case entirely?

can I have a screenshot of your lines?

[ruby sorrel]

cuprium will eventually clog if your bottle:parts ratio is off

[hoary crag]

^^^

[mortal hemlock]

One loop being just planter and seeder

[ruby sorrel]

as long as you make 2 parts per bottle nothing will go wrong

[hoary crag]

if you're reducing syringe A to 75%, which means you're now using only 3 unloaders of it instead of 4

[silent canyon]

Ah so 100% efficiency is inherently at ratio, but is not mutually exclusive

[atomic fiber]

I also think it's just 1. dunno about 2

[atomic fiber]

ye

[outer basin]

If you take away Cuprium from the Parts half, it also slows down the Bottles being used, which clogs the Cuprium on that half which stops making sewage which stops making Xircon which stops making batteries which stops the factory from being powered.

[mortal hemlock]

Is it dumb if i produce all my in the subpac

[ruby sorrel]

yes the ratio is 2 parts to 1 bottle, you can run the same ratio under 100% efficiency but it'll require a bunch of splitters since it's not 30/min belts

[mortal hemlock]

Forge of the sky

[crimson inlet]

oh shit, if you meant for carbon then 1 loop is a yes for 1 forge

[marble yarrow]

no it isnt. you are free to do it

[shrewd knoll]

then just split the lane of cuprium into parts and bottle, its still at ratio, the medicine is 10 parts and 5 bottles

[atomic fiber]

i did that too. Just make sure yanzhen A and SC battery is on same place

[mortal hemlock]

My yanzhen a is in the subpac as well

[atomic fiber]

then no

[mortal hemlock]

I can almost fit em

[atomic fiber]

move yanzhen to main pac

[atomic fiber]

you need too fit sc battery too

[mortal hemlock]

Ill try doing that since youre a hater it seems

[hoary crag]

then do this:

first unloader feeds the molding unit
second unloader feeds the first fitting unit
third unloader feeds both molding unit and second fitting unit

[outer basin]

If you take from the Bottle half then the Parts half clogs which stops sewage which stops Xircon which stops Batteries which stops the factory from being powered.

[hoary crag]

this will have the fitting and molding units have a total of 75% efficiency

[mortal hemlock]

Im doing four forges and yanzhen a in the mini factory if were nto in the same oage

[shrewd knoll]

you seem to lack the basic understanding of how it even works, so thats why no one is bothering with you

[ruby sorrel]

60 parts to 30 bottles and 5 parts to components plus 27.5 bottles to 57.5 parts for example

[shrewd knoll]

you already seemed convinced that it wont work

[ruby sorrel]

whatever you split off to components you need to make up for from bottles production

[shrewd knoll]

when everyone saids otherwise

[outer basin]

How am I wrong? Please, I want to know.

[atomic fiber]

if you want to sure. you will just have some harder time setting sc battery

but not impossible

[mortal hemlock]

How come? Sc battery is just some ciranite + copper no?

[hoary crag]

no you're not, it's just that you're more or less looking at it differently

[marble yarrow]

oh, minor maintenance in 2 hrs

[crimson inlet]

this is why we have multiple water treatment units

[atomic fiber]

no. it need the sawage from syringe A

[ruby sorrel]

whatever you send off to components you must take it half from bottle production and half from parts production

[outer basin]

I've been at this for 9 hours and still don't understand how this is supposed to work.

[silent canyon]

I just use a bunch of protocol stashes to prevent things from breaking. If I overflow, it will take until the depot fills up to break

[hoary crag]

taking cuprium directly from ANY of the fitting or molding without compensating for the other WILL clog up the latter

[ruby sorrel]

yeah cus the only thing youv'e been doing is complaining how you don't understand instead of listening to ppl's answers

[upper fiber]

will they finally fix the desync issue

[atomic fiber]

you can still make pipe from sub pac to main pac. bringing sawage

[hoary crag]

so the solution is to take cuprium from BOTH of them equally

[crimson inlet]

show the bullets my man

[outer basin]

I'm not fucking complaining, I'm asking questions because I'm struggling to understand what seems so easy for everyone else.

[mortal hemlock]

Oh

[hoary crag]

...

[mortal hemlock]

Thats understandable then

[atomic fiber]

looking at their record on how they manage 1.0 factory bug. i doubt. also which desync you get?

[ruby sorrel]

look here's an easy method then, put down a fitting machine, feed it with EQUAL AMOUNTS of cuprium from BOTH bottle and parts production of your exisiting medicine line, problem solved

[hoary crag]

the expanded top view let me do the bonus goal for the depot bus lol

[atomic fiber]

it not easy it took hours

[hoary crag]

tho it did take more steps

[iron stratus]

redeemer hands change is gonna get me like 400k

[hoary crag]

yeah it's not easy for us as well, it took us days

[atomic fiber]

for anyone that think hours is short time it's not. i have live

[silent canyon]

This update came out 3 days ago

[hoary crag]

that's why we're here so other's won't suffer like we did

[silent canyon]

There's no rush

[hoary crag]

^^^

[atomic fiber]

ye. Just don't get burn out

[outer basin]

This person certainly seems to think I'm too stupid.

[hoary crag]

let's take this slowly then

[shrewd knoll]

being stupid and having the lack of understanding of how this particular thing works doesnt mean you are stupid but you said it

[marble yarrow]

TRUE. you have to compute the belts, if you want to perfect it. otherwise put extra stuff to your depot.

its the effort that counts, and yeah, it takes time, and you give time

[hoary crag]

your concern is that you want to make cuprium components without breaking your factory, right?

let's take it slowly this time

[crimson inlet]

huh, none of them are game changing...

[marble yarrow]

yeah bug fixes

no QoL

[hoary crag]

yeah it's a minor bug patch lol, can't really expect much from it unless one of them applies to you

[outer basin]

And then it also requires Xiranite. Taking Xiranite away reduces the amount of Sewage being used which causes the Cuprium to clog which as I've said a couple times before, shuts down the entire factory.

[iron stratus]

if you're m,aking cuprium parts i'd switch off one battery/xircon line, reroute all sewage from yazhen syringe to the one active xircon line, and half the cuprium going into syringes

[hoary crag]

what's your xiranite allocation for now?

[crimson inlet]

I work at a butchery shop and I can still make this:

[iron stratus]

even though each side will be staggered out of yazhen syringes it'll keep a consistent 2 conduits out

[upper fiber]

idk, just overall spike down for certain of time, even at valley IV

[crimson inlet]

I'm on mobile and somehow the change in settings doesn't affect me that much

[marble yarrow]

i just realized WTF ARE THEY 16K??

[hoary crag]

yes

[silent canyon]

You only need 2 cuprium refineries to power a gear component crafter right

So then just focus on this,
That makes enough sewage to make 1 line of SC battery

[shrewd knoll]

gouging the price to 2x

[upper fiber]

only that 1 or every new gear?

[ruby sorrel]

wait is this why I'm poor

[crimson inlet]

we're poor again in wuling