#aic-factory
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can confirm converger/splitter shenanigans also affect pipes
we love flexibility
yea
I realised after rebuilding the whole factory twice
trying to figure out the issue
idk help
Question: how much power/h do i have if I meta transfer purple battery from vally iv to wuling
What do you need
i love some funny pipes
I hate that it works
if the other 3 overflows with sewage, they will come here in my trap
i tried making stock bill item but i dont know how to optimize it
I just slapped 4 Water treatment Unit on mine
Does anyone have beginner friendly xiranite component bp?
super long belts
it's just xiranite + cube
Also if I input 2 lines of xiranite, does the crucible work 2x as fast?
Or it does not work like that
do you have an independent xiranite line? just asking
cant make anything work faster in this game
yES
if yes, then you could have a very simple setup
damn no speed sadge
I'll only show a screenshot since my blueprints are all hybrids
no. it should be of different recipes
so it back to the scaling problem
no, it still produces 1 every 2 secs so it will just clog instead
like everything? i can manage with sc battery, xiranite, and yazhen a. can't add toggleable compoenents tho cuz limit reached
do you have a lot of facilities in your wuling city
is jincao better than sanleaf on convert to carbon
yes
max farm and max ziplines
then that's probably why
makes xiranite components at 3/min (50% uptime).
a full uptime for this isn't really recommended as it consumes too much xiranite just for components
i dont have anything in my farm and no ziplines
ic thanks tho
yes it's a visual bug, pipe looks empty but it's not
why is noone using itt
can i fit any other lines besides the 4 xiranite, 1 xircon, and 1 cuprium component i have in the outpost
everyone is
Any plant that needs water in the planter is better
2x better
everyone is
although there is a valid reason for those who don't since it doesn't really appear in the refinery's formulas unless you actually do it yourself
god I wish I can disable material icons in top view mode
Pros: 2x the carbon
Cons: deal with pipes
or have a compact design label
i always see people using sandleaf or yazhen fro xiranite
including in aic blueprint guide
yazhen/jincao?
me before and after I learned about the wuling plant carbons
That's cuz ya need sandleaf for the powder stuff
although my xiranite line looks different now
since I had to make it thinner so I could put 4 of them side by side
Yayy.. Thanx @hoary crag
so sandleaf is still better?
np
For carbon ya should use wuling plants that need water
cooked yall
sandleaf is used for sandleaf powder, that's it
Sandleaf should always go into the shredder
sandleaf is still in the xiranite line because you still need sandleaf powder and that's it.
the wuling plants replace carbon production. which lets you remove 3 planters and a seeding unit.
wheres the core? i wasted 100 xiranite and cant find it lol
git gud
does anyone know why my production is fluctuating between 5 and 6 battery per min?
Get down
they're usually close to the people you're trying to rescue
so it isnt faster but more power efficient
it's right there below the bridge
power and space efficient yes
i remember it being below
IWinToLose aic is suck then
although yes, you will have to deal with pipes
but I mean tbf, the pipes look amazing lol
Iwtl still use old one, buck plant..
Maybe he just lazy to remake it..
Looks like City Skylines 
Yass.. Looks neat and clean..
kyoS also not using it
is yazhen also give 2?
Yass.. Those who build from beginning, especially yutuber probably won't revise it..
Coz they promote the blueprint to viewers.. So just adding new facilities to old blueprint easier to explain..
Than must explain he make change to the xyranite using wuling plant to make it compact and remake the blueprint he used to share..
waiting for the day I get to reduce my zipline network from tp to top of wheel from 5 to 4
Behold the most compact A yazhen syringe build that I can think of
Require 4 lanes of Cuprium and 1 and 1/2 water pipes
Kinda similar to mine.. XD
Oh wait it is A type..
make it more compact by removing the reactor
No I refuse to remove the pipes (putting 1:1 products on the bus are just bad design imo)
Is this max? If possible I would like to produce both components at the same time (currently off)
"bad design" 
Uh.. Why bridging the pipe to inside aic from pump to inlet?
Consuming the aic are.
is 1 plump enough for 2 seeding and 1 Forge of the sky?
weapons factory
imagine sewage bottle is a consumable that deal poison dmg
Even better, Sewage-thrower tower
Guy 20 originium cube how many line ? 🗿
Just a little revision.. XD
Is there any new originium in new map?
No.. Just copium..
Yea i redesigning my Wuling base for the 4th time today
none, but reach region lvl 8 to increase it to 480 yield if thats what ur asking
You kidding i need to reach 8?
YEP
yup
1 pump for 2 planting facilities only..
Im bad at calculating.. XD
Guuyyssss
15 oricube is 3 line right
2/s is 4 lines
4
Does anyone have a max efficiency base for wuling with controllable production of both gearing materials?
So u need 4 more line x.x
thats what 480/min is for
thats suck
Nop.. Me at 0 gear..
batteries are greedy
We don't need to transfer originium?
If u merge 2 pump output to 1 pipe, the pipe can supply 4 facilities..
nope
unless u need originium for components
There are soooo many videos on YouTube with soooo many updates😣😵💫😵💫
I see
When start building, me just spam build part at first..
Then make bunch of gears with xyranite stock..
So no need to make gear anymore..
both gearing components, bro ur greed is showing
Did i cook? It's 12x24
Not from ore, its cheating..
Rejected.. 
u can make it smaller if u make parts somewhere else
I need some facility for something else in the future. 
jk, looks nice and compact
Oofff.. Limit warning..
i just put cuprium somewhere cuz sewage and condiuts
Make all steps somewhere else so only packaging facility like basic blueprint..

Its really compact.. °-°)b
HG WHY WHY
water is maybe possible
the factory cant grow
there is a bridge in PP that has water
Maybe you can pump it
have u checked the number of facilities u placed
i am in valley IV
Power plateau
u cant place pumps in v4 anyway 
NOOOOOOOOO
crucible in v4 eh
THE FACTORY CANT GROW
If you tend to produce syringe c as well, the yazhen shredder can supply 2 rectors
replacing electric rigs with hydro rigs in two originium nodes
you just increase protocol capacity, but not change power
gotta pair 5 ones with 2 ones to save electric
You can mine originium and ferium with hydro rigs ??
good idea
abuse in a nutshell, courtesy of the factory
it is the box of death
i did that as well. is good to have sentry towers at backlanes to make those backlaners attack enemies first
As long as its wuling area.
Poor enemies..
ohhh, i know why they can save up ~200 power now
Burned to crisp when spawned..
how do you pair 2 distant beds? i dont understand
did wuling map increase area? i just saw that protocol capacity and zipline capacity increased
5 mining nodes pair with 2 fluid pumps. each pump could supply 3 hydro rigs
use conduit to connect them abuse teleport trick, 1 water pump can support 3 high/full capacity ore while low cost half of water
so youre saying ill connect one pipe all the way to the other side?
dang
wuling map now has 50 zipline capacity max
oh teleport trick
you could also use conduit if you dont like seeing pipelines around
you can connect from outlet too not just from inlet
it save me 40 electric for the 6 ferium and 2 originium combo near aic
its 50 saved
your pipelines are far
oh right
(dont ask the middle pair)
about wuling 1.1 factory build which one do you prefer
1st guide
- wuling SC battery
- syringe A
- syringe C
2nd guide - wuling SC battery
- syringe A
- valley IV HC battery
this one better tbh
its ok i didnt use conduit for that 2 pairs
wait, how does 6ferrium + 2 ori divide 2 pump?
use teleport trick
you can go so far tbh 
A Syringe V.2 now even more compact
i dont want to use conduit so much
Guy is there effing way to make oricube without sand leaf?
nope sand leaf it is 1 sand gives 3 dust
Can I have bp for this?
Do new refining unit only make cupiom with water
EFO01iUIoIoa342oE72U4
3 high ferrium = 1 pump
1 pump split it to:
1 goes to path 1: splits to 3 low ferrium
1 goes to path 2: conduit to originium node
Tqsm..
you forget to connect moulding to filing unit while it got blocked by electric pylon 
Can u make new thing with new refining unit beside cupium
hell na bro. thats not hiking anymore, thats island hopping
Oops
XD
you can conduit + teleport, which i didnt want to do (coz pipe is free protocol capacity)
ok, so it depends if high or low purity. imma go change my pipelines now 
is itt worth it for 50 save
how crazy are u
just abuse tp trick with conduit
light blue for piping
min maxing final boss
it is what it is
then dont do it
its in the sniping range so i just did it

what is "sniping" range to you 
that's a rifle range dawg 
*me who just take closest water and pipe em..
Fix 3 node/pump..
ok they are weirded out
the reason i do it is so its suppressing my hc valley output by 78% instead of 58% saved by dige
stockaders weirded out on how drills are using only water to do drill things
gotta make those manual transfer as long as posible 
*ore depleted..
Stockaders destroy the facilities..
imagine...
isnt this only cost effective for ferrium mining tbh?
I'm still waiting for the stockade to be rich
why are u making 60 xircon per min lmao
you can save 15 energy for if you pair node spots that are 5 + 2
EikoClown yeah pass
the new battery itself gives 3.2k energy
its because im not yet using the new battery
also i saved 120 power vs normal mining setups
same im just burning 2 old wuling batteries
we love saving power
new one is better to sell
who doesnt love hoarding the big battery
currently, I have no use for cuprium components...
Why can we sell yazhen syringe a but not jincao tea
i lowered my cuprium component to 1/min
i dont have enough production of lc to burn 
what the fuk
look at that sexy downward slope on power usage
that purple valley battery 
im just bettin on future use tbh
1.1 having left over originium even with a max out base is crine
I made 12k cup components and switched all xiranite for 12/m wuling battery 
ok i need a answer
56
42
😭
Da vinki
wait you dont make 45k cup?
at one point i cant mix and match selling
im using 2 fluid pumps for 4 refineries connected directly to one conduit
the refineries are working but it seems the pumps are clogged4?
I just bankrupt 3 outposts v4 with only Buck S and HC batteries...
im storing sewage for the next pool we get to dump into
what's this suppose to do
its ok, theyre just accumulated inaccuracies when offline. pumps build up like that
Take up space
i see i was thinkin of reducin it but then math aint mathin
everything goes shi when u offline
real
for safety in handling fluids, double the storage and consumption

Well at least factory is working as expected and perfect 3.2k consumption
how? You don't have ziplines?
yes
some people get wonky graphs
oh you edging
ah nvm
mine is 3,7k 
How are you 3.1k xD
do you keep the component modules in your factory
remove reactors for meds, integrate them in your SC
uhhh modules?
Eh you could do that?
ohhh
reactors can run simultaneous formulas
but not double of 1 formula
kinda like mine
the liquid ferium do use only half crucible 
Fahhh I need to rebuild my factory
wait
I don't wanna spend extra energy on making jincao drink C
time to redo my arse battery production line
thats possible?
well now im lazy to reset up everyhting
i just pretend i didnt see it and
make it next week
@marble yarrow do you know what's the average income from elastic goods or it's too hard to calculate?
i dont think much of that, i just hoard until i get 500% 
blud wants an average of multiple constantly-changing stuffs...
just buy low and sell high
.stonks
also i dont see any content vids about it. but i do like to know it more someday maybe
i mean lets assume shit and make up numbers
kinda wish the game has like, a weekly income summary
mmhmm tasty
that's how we usually do
instead of daily
assume you get 50% discount everyday
I wanna learn how much a day it fluctuates tbh
and peak at 4.7k selling
does it multiply per fixed or per selling price?
with this concept can I use one of the liquid xiranite cruicible to make xircon?
yeah maybe set that as average sell
Kinda wish the weekly reset also include tcred and leveling mats 
not enough slot, since it has only 5 slot and you need 6
like if its 1200 per unit, would it multiply for .4 or .2
oh that sucks
water
xiranite
liquid xiranite
sewage
xircon
inert xircon
hmm so like 2.1m assuming buying at 1k and selling at 4.7k oh wait wrong maths
1k kinda low. maybe 1200
true
I never check what xircon used for except for SC bats, is there any other use?
sometimes the game just hates u
and you are forced
wait did i bought this before 1.1

I think my design can immediately make xircon, but it would require more space for placing a ferrium dust unloader and 3 water treatment units
probably, cuz u have 50 not 65
So I made it integrated into the battery area line
true lmao
some people still don't know they can upgrade the market 
god I wish we can have v4 levels of lower prices
fuggin 640 per unit
I had been saving wuling stock until the sell price reach 5k+ 
Damn it all that work for -50k power more effiecient
can anyone help me when i want to place blueprint suddenly there is notification 'pipe logistic exceeded limit' ???
ok so, 1.1k buy, 4.7k sell, 2.1m profit minus 500k cost, average 1.6m net income per week
pipes have a certain length limit
4 line x 8 originium line
add pipe splitters or some shit in-between
She: Put dung in the middle...
She: why my pipe still not working 
looks good
"Some shit"
damn
For maximal production, yes
Mandatory, no
wait i just following kyostin blueprint but he didn't need that ???

ok and then lets add this with the average passive income from outpost and stuff which is 3.7m? total wuling income should be 5.3m
your placement is wrong
Your pipe placement is wrong then
also, make your own stuff, it's better to learn it by yourself or have someone teach you the bare basics for you to monkey wrench a abomination
outpost is 6.1m/week
Just put a damn splitter, wont cost you material at all
wait idk where did i get 3.7m
or... a conduit
not yet
The photo gameplay?
also, I call everything an abomination because every screenshot I see is eye candy that either harrases my OCD or is a cake for my fatass
you need 8.4m to buy catalysts correct?
is 60k also 20?
Yes 20
wait it's 20 not 40?
bro, they're doing what we're doing 
up pricing the valuables
then just 8m
this one?
Wait its 40?
oh its 40
it's 40

oh, 60k is the 40...
What are ypu trying to say? 
I see the "ni"
banned for misinformation
💀

you saw nothing
poor ass
yeah lol 8.4m
Im speed 
leave my stockbills alone
Dev be like... :
After review from game data and discord data..
The endmins have tons of surplus production items..
They're all very rich..
So it doesn't matter if we adjust the price in market higher..
photoshoot mission is average 1m
210k
now it's just delivery left
280k
I got the 210
delivery is 80k *4 = 320k per day?
some 12k 
Delivery this is rng? Sometimes get high offer price sometimes lower offer price..
Or below with 1% condition 
Or the items influence?
I'd be throwing rice in wuling rn if its item influence
ok what do we have, 6m from outpost, 1.6m from elastics, 1m from photoshoot, 2.2m from delivery
You'll be the savior 
i won't, haru might
at least 10.8m chinese money
All I did was spam sandleaf powder to every package everyday.. -_-)
same
I can barely afford a 4 mil tianshi pillar 
I just click the max button on the right bar 
pretty sure its same price, but some new players might not max the package and send lower value job out
Those rookie dont know how harsh wuling is
kinda rigged maths but i think it's safe to assume we get at least TEN MILLIONS wuling stocks a week
yeah this is good
Is there a way for a component to act like a switch? I want a single bulid for xiranite and cuprium components. The rate are same too so i thought that'd be good.
probably 80k x 3 plus 1 "fck it i cant find 80k this is enough"
Just say lower one.. 80x3 + 72?
Lucky
but you need 8.4m to buy catalysts, you're left with 1.6m, and copium gears are 16k each so still enough to artifice them
environmental monitoring
200k something
idk the frequency, its not daily afaik
280k *3.5
Is there a way for a component to act like a switch? I want a single bulid for xiranite and cuprium components. The rate are same too so i thought that'd be good.
delivery
it's fine we take the worst case scenario
maybe forgot 1 or 2 delivery per week
anyone here know more about dige config and can explain it to me?
i think theres a youtube video explaining it
Connect both coprium part and origo into a gearing unit 
In simple term..
Ur electric bill is 12k
1 battery is 10k, if u place 2 normally total is 20k.
20k gone to pay 12k, u lost 8k.
Dige make only 1 on so u paid 10k.
The -2k take from pac until it is like -9k ~ -10k..
The contraption rotate the battery so it enter thermal when its -9 or -10, then paid it.
Ur pac back to 0 (100%) again.
Repeat.
i understand the concept, im wondering about the constraint configurations
Thats more to calculating, me kinda dumb to explain..
yeah thats the hard part 😓
The split2 thing to waste time before it enter the thermal.
Man I really don't want to build the battery saver thingy
but 3.55k is just too much
well yeah the concept was you're rate-limiting the belt speed
it's half pwm because we cant control power output
0.15k exceeded.. Bad.. XD
min% is lowest pac% it'll drop to when in a deficit
max waste is the upper limit for how much power is "wasted" when pac is fully charged and thermals are still running
i suggest getting rid of syringe c
it's like 150 power at least
I did
I didn’t realize that grinding sandleaf yielded 3 powder, I adjusted my factory afterwards but I haven’t been able to fit in a production line for the third sandleaf to be used. So I just placed a protocol stash to store the spare sandleaf, is that fine?
Do you need all quests to get region lvl 8?
Its fine.. Even without stash only two belt also fine..
@marble yarrowone thing i forgot, the 20% bonus from trading stocks
At least its not 1k per min
i dont know how he got that kind of number
The “…” makes it sound like I screwed up badly lol
Nah.. Its just my weird habis adding many dots so the paragraph space wider... XD
I don’t think so? I just played the game normally and it slowly built up overtime.
cant i sell the jincao from cuprium bottles in wuling?
lmaooo true!!
idk what i shluld produce rn
Finish mq, upgrade all nodes,depot,environment,recycle available to max the can again..
The rest is selling items till lvl up..
Oh okay XD. It sounded like “Oh… you f*cked up my guy…”
environmental monitoring looks like it gives one every 2 days afaik
Yass, once every 2 days..

I don’t have room for Citromes so I guess Valley IV will starve because of me but healthcare is good thanks to buck capsules lol.
Is there a way to expand the limit of farming in wuling-
Nop..
Well played so i make 50 field for nothing after all-
how is your reports looking
V4 even has it worse 😭
i havent started rhe new batteey
just 16
i need to sell smth so i thought of making the new jianco bottles
Farm exists only to display sample plants we have.. °-°)b
you need to have outpost lvl3 first to sell the new battery
V4 is reasonable cause its space is smoll
Wuling way questionable
Well, only depot delivery can 
i mean just change the plant to yazhen not that hard
Good enuff?
All already lvl3?
Seems like what me used to be..
Lack selling items for bills only..
Once it done, instantly go to 9..
anyone wanna help me with factory 
h ok
Also, I just realized that grinding Wuling plants give 2 carbon instead of 1 for sandleaf 😐
U can use the extra ferrium + 25 from meta transfer to make some syringe/drink C..
Ferium is for xircon x.x
There's so much choice to make it various carbon powder 
The game doesn’t tell you that until you grind the Wuling plants yourself 
The medicine powder can be refined into carbon powder
The sandleaf powder can be refined as well.
your aic reports should look like this if you're not making gear component, syringe c is optional and unimportant so you dont have to make that for less power usage
each xircon line uses 30/min ferrium
you have 2 (since your scwb's at 12/min), that makes it 60/min
you still have 30/min ferrium ore to spare
U still have 30 surplus..
Produce 90, use 60 for xircon..
you can use that to keep making yahzen syringe c
Surplus 55 if added from meta transfer..
just made a rudimentary cuprium parts assembly line, and wow these conduits are so useful!
but it's better than nothing
Hmm imagine selling bombs in wuling-
soupsoup about to have a field day
I just find making syringe c is pointless, you already making more money than the outpost
Yahzen c with 30 one line of ferrium?
Why selling bomb when the endmins selling sewage water bottles to the people..

Wait, selling sewage bottles?
Add from meta transfer so 2 line, 30 + 25..
depends on the factory config but yeah
Filling excess sewage water to bottles.. 
How much ferrium needed for yahzen C?
I currently have xiranite and cuprium components running at 3/min tho, so in my case my production actually can't keep up with outpost
90 line of ferrium
that extra line gives me buffer time before it eventually caps
And you tell me to make it with 55 only?
i think it's funny how my core aic is pretty clean and symmetrical and then you have my sub pac
just selling stuff gives you region lvl?
No
only upgrades n such give regional lvl
11h more to max xiranite stock 
You can set/tune it down, it will reduce the total number as results..
a 100% uptime yahzen C needs 120/min.
however, a popular setup rn uses 55/min. since you're already using 60/min on SC wuling batteries
Leveling up outpost gives you regional, selling stuff gives you prosperity to level up outpost
Like mine..
Nah i ain't making those shieet anymore
I have syringe A
It better if i just it to make ferrium steel part of something
yeah fair, since production already outpaces outpost regen with it
but will still be useful if you convert a battery line into something else like components
compare with this:
Yass.. Its up to u what to make..
Its just making something out of it better than keeping it in depot till max capacity..
It like telling people to make wulling battery when you already have sc wuling
What im saying is, u still have surplus ferrium.
Better use it than let it be..
make ferrium bottle and fill it with sewage
Using filling unit?
It better if i just the transfer for originium
yeah
To make cupium components
You wanna use ferrium instead of cuprium?
Recycling node in the new area or other area of wuling havent maxed yet. The owl bird thing.
Then environment at top right building haven't lvled up.
The depot where u take goods for delivery also haven't lvled up.
yeah, since ferrium is free if you don't make yazhenC
I slowed down once of my HC valley battery lines to 50% because I'm running out of steel parts 😭
30 only free
used up like all of it for more sentries
Does this actually work? A guy on this said if would work even though the game literally said "IDLE"
One line dun even enuff for one bottle
My thinking is stocking it for now..
So when new outpost come, habe soo many to spam and emptying it..
Coz it might need more than double of what u can produce daily now..
But you do urs..
want to save 4 capacities
iirc cant transfer cuprium stuff from v4 to wuling anymore, patched
Switch to meta transfer.
That one u taking stock in valley 4 depot ig..
Build by Tangtang
V4 doesn't have cuprium?
no conduits raaah

very nice
Wrong path transfer i think?
And I think you couldnt transfer the ferrium too because the ferrium ore in my Valley 4 is empty now
u have to manually switch to metastorage transfer
it doesn't automatically change when u get it
so disable transfer and set it up again (select metastorage this time)
rip
Oops, but how to meta transfer???
Oh wait I see it now, thank youuuuuu
Dont be shy.. °-°)b
Pipe looks cool when u place em correctly..
OMG
end your current transfer and start a new one, you will immediately see the option
a
Didn't realise you could upgrade photo place
Can you pack cuprium
that upward tunnel was what triggered me 
Thank youuuuuuuu, now I can dup the parts used for building facilities instead of making them
As item for job?
just sell yazhen [a] first
Wait, we can't do anything when it comes to processing cuprium ore in v4 though-
Capped cuprium can stop your battery production?
Unless we can put that cuprium into something
battery production needs waste water, capping cuprium stop waste water production thus the battery
Kyo released 1.1 Wuling BP.
And it's just too funny.
"Sell the injectors first, because if they hit the limit, your whole factory will fucking explode."
The only thing you can make wuling sc in v4 was transfering xircon though?
The easiest way is cope ore refine to make bottle and syringe A.
So no excessive coperium..
The sewage from refine goes to battery production..
So all stable..
real
but it's gonna be hard to hit limit of the injectors
Explanation:
Injectors make dirty waste water.
You need dirty for new Wuling batteries.
No injector production -> no dirty water -> no batteries -> no energy -> you die in real life
though you only need less than a week to hit the limit if you are producing at 6/m
and don't sell it
Solved by selling it
Luckily it takes like a week to make 50k syringes
luckily? 
If you don't login in weekly you die
we are still in honeymoon period so it doesn't feel like a chore yet
real
Pretty much
A week.
Make it like 2.5 weeks or 3..
Transfer it to v4 depot with 80k capacity.. °-°)b
Your factory will explode if you not login in a week
Or just inject it into Tangtang to cure her rock cancer
i am still feeling ok with the 4 wuling deliveries per day, but it won't last long until I feel tedious about it
compared to other gachas, endfield dailies is the most tedious so far
When they add new outpost
I do them for cred shop, not currency.
i just realized we have a sewage now
can't even finish within 20 mins
The real boss of 1.1 is the water trench near the wuling recycling facility 🥲
that means we can fill the 40k pool area with it
We have 2 wuling job

You want more outpost of sub-PAC?
More wuling job?
True.. Counting it as part of daily make it feel take long time to finish..
They already announced new sub pac for next big upgrade
You probably need to sell cuprium steel part first.m
But whenever this will come with new delivery node shall see
U cant.. Dev knows it will be done..
So they ban any dumping of sewage..

Login + one daily quest ( fix robo, make photo, whatev) and you done. Maybe get creds + restart the clue gathering. Need to burn energy like once in 2 days by 120 boss and x2 reward with ticket.
smh limiting player freedom 0/10 game
Dun forget essence farming
they have to retire the deliveries one way or another for high rank players ngl
railroad/10
I don't do this shi
Daily friend assist in Dijang is pretty important too
We do have essence selector
we'll get a drone package delivery next patch frfr
This is pain
AIC upgrade for autodelivery.
Make the full roads for delivery drones via the zipline + some new shit
We could make jincao
since when was the factory not pain
Jincao A
I do type in survey.. In joke manner..
Im the ENDMIN, why must i do the menial tasks..

I think their idea for progression is to make valley 4 irrelevant once next region is added
So you wont be doing those deliveries simply because there is nothing to buy
honestly true. a timed expedition kind of thing should also work for this.
refinery casually keeping ores when offline
it doesnt wanna let go
when the legendary world savior gets excited over a few wuling bucks on the floor
So my factory in V4 will explode?
probably can be done in the same manner/same level as dijiang assignment
then we'll get limited ops with talents that let them deliver faster 
Tho tbh, i expect rioting when this happens so maybe thry will rethink it
i mean hey, we got penguin logistic in AK, why not have a delivery courier here
At least V4 factory will not explode unlike Wuling factory
I don't mean only the 100 pt activities dailies, but also getting credits by visiting 5 friends, fiddle with your clues on Dijiang, optional if you want to receive/give gifts to operators, deliveries, stock market, etc
Imagine 3rd region PAC can be attacked by raiders anytime 
because Wuling factory need balance between 2 products
Turret time in AIC?

Well.. If new area come with new sub pac..
Then new patch = new region, new aic..
Will u keep handling all 3..
Most peps will abandon v4 ig, taking care 2 aic already consuming time..
Repeat when another new region appears.. Wuling abandoned..
imagine they implement a random time raid and you have to make a base defense layer on aic

I mean if you didn't remove the turrets for auto defence 
if defeating the waves gave temporary bonus bill% I'd take that 
then you should have no problem
Gives players only 2 factory to manage --> Players yelling because they will lose all of their hard work building the old factories
Gives players the task of manage all of the factories even if it reaches like 10 --> Players yelling because they are forced to do daily that lasted more than an hour and it's wasting their time because it's not optimal like other gacha games
--> Players will never be happy
Wuling factory already exploded if i dont login in a week
You dont really „manage” as in rebuild the factory tho
people have to redo their wuling factory already from 1.0 to 1.1 
If win :)
If lose, all factory shutdown 👀
At least at some point the management is just dumping products to get money
then drops as raw materials
Excrpt there is nothing to buy with it
Unless i return back to wuling battery
Oh, u don't need to wait a week..
Lately there's many offline bug where ur factory or mining rig lagging or stop working when offline..

Ur factory might died tomorrow..
wait now you give me an idea
PvP
tower defense
And lazy ass gacha players have already been screaming on other flatforms saying how this game's daily tasks are toxic compared to other games while other games are a mindless log in log out 5min simulators
Dem..
have anyone figured out how the sawage offline bugs work?
Factory defense.. 
i wonder how they calculate the production when you are offline.
Become a spy sabotaging other peps factory..
assemble a landbreaker of your own to raid someone's factory
Yeah, i find all the laziness really jarring everywhere. The daily takes so little in this game
cementing that admin is the whole problem again
tbf not all people have the time to play games like 2nd job
clash of clans in the big 26????
the bug introduced maintenance gameplay 
Not sure..
With wulling battery i still have 180 originium to spare x.x
oh just something I noticed
it's expected that buy prices decrease throughout the week
but it only seems to be the case for low value goods (low peak)
the high value goods already have good buy prices all throughout the week
this 👇 is last week's data and I assumed it could just be sample rng
but right now the high value goods are starting strong again on a monday and the low value ones are atrocious 
(price peaks/sell prices are still drastically lower on mondays for all goods)
Just 30min is enough to clog everything
Not yet ig.. Prolly will just need to wait dev fix it..
this game takes like 15 mins instead of 5, I think it should be that EASY to manage
if it's server side then rip your factory when Endfield server explode
how sewage offline bug happen?
You can make xyranite component with the originium
but it would never be client side
And cuprium gear isn't even that better
All i experience is mining rig offline bug..
It already make me got heart attack..
But tang tang need cupium gear
smh should just make idle factory
so yea there could be a way for the server to snapshot your production when you go offline, then when you are back online it uses that snapshot to calculate what you got/spent.
does this assume you take ori from batts or would you be metastoraging the ori cubes to make up for it
I stop making sc battery and switch back to wulling
How auto management work? Would some stuff automatically transferred into outposts?
but ngl I guess endfield server would explode sooner or later with all that free placement and constant calculation it needs for all players, even for dead accounts
auto management just means the factory works offline
"works"
there is a limit for factory simulation
Isn't every idle game
Well, in practoce you dont need to simulate the factory while people are offline
Have offline management
7 or 14 days
You can just catch up the sim when they log kn
after 7 days offline, the factory stops
The factories are super small, they shoulsnt take much effort to simulate fast
not visually but in numbers
i bet they'll reduce the time soon
they have to simulate thousands of accounts
Depot unloader and PAC output won't unload when offline over a week right? 👀
either that or they optimize things a lot somehow
everything works within a week
Imagine if we can auto discard those extra cuprium in offline without clogging the factory
After the week everything stops until you log in again
Autosell will make you rich outside game

What if you had 0 reserve power and offline over a week-
Auto scrap will most likely given than auto sell..

They trying to force you playing the game by making the factory explode if you don't login in a week
I don't naruhodo
Ur factory died, nothing produced..
Thats all..
There is cap to bills and there is nothing to buy with v4 bills
The unloader and pac output still working. Just won't produce till over a week?
I'm trying to do this but i dont get how he placed 21 depot 
upgrade the aic?
No, it just stops, it will be in same state if you login after week, two or half year
Its just paused
@marble yarrow can i see your AIC report for SC, Syringe A&C and Component?
If u have 0 power/energy.
Even if the ore come out of unloader and enter the facility.
The facility didn't work coz no energy.
It won't produce anything.
Imagine if they make it so you can buy skin with v4 bill
I know it just won't produce.
have you maxed out the AIC Steward upgrade?
It looks like 20 depots to me?
Simple.. U have the blueprint of xyranite? Place it coz it didn't need depot connection..
you can place 20 long depots and 2 square depots
ye i also dont get how its going out of bounds
dont think its out of bounds, they're just putting multiple images together and its not lining up perfectly
It doesn't go out of aic border thou.
Yeah, i think the images are just misaligned
Oh there's a glitch they're patching in the maintainence tmr
Yall can login to check the update notes
They specifically mention the issue with not being able to place stuff
One of the depot facing up?
I think the depot part is from top images
Its stitched on it
You can see factories are next to border on top and bottom
But top part is toward left by two fields for some reason
Try place the xyranite at top right..
Below it from right corner to left :
4 depot - 1 bus - 5 depot - 1 rotated depot.
It should be fit in ig..
I think its just poorly stitched together/different scale
ill show u one sec gonna make a video lol
Yass.. Probably they get many complain for the offline bug trouble..
oh ffs
Right corner one not to the end yet..
im dumb
You can move whole thing to right

°-°)/*pats
u can have full 2 sides of MAX AIC, sence is square ! 2L
enemies destroy those pipelines?
No.. Im just kidding..
Soo... what can we do with sewage? how to get rid of it?
i'm trying to comprehend how to connect these because they far
wastewater treatment or use to create sc wulbat
devs prolly
guys i think the xircon/sawage offline bug is because of the sawage loop back using
try not to loop sawage back
devs if they wanna push the conduit agenda
wym by that
Paid energy power for building water treatment plant..
update: miners now produce pollution that attract aggeloi
wastewater treatment facility cost 50 power
xircon effluent + Ferrium powder give sawage. don't use that sawage, but throw them into treatment
No, what kind of « bug »
im looping back and its fine 
doing tests on conduits tho
treatment facility is like eraser of AIC. they dont even separate the water in sewage to let the water back to environment
xircon/sawage very very slowly decreasing overtime when offline
do you know how i get the water going 
how long are you offline
Looping back is fine
But it could be a problem if u also supply it from cuprium
Then can clog the cuprium part where sewage is not being used fast enuf, so cuprium ends up clogging?
like when you sleep?
What water?
clog won't decrease stuff so slow
Sounds like maybe your sewage source is just slightly less or sm
maybe due to splitting/weird ratios
doubt. it is a very simple stuff with very simple setup. also it's not just me
Idk what u're talking about
But my presented scenario is more likely to happen, if ur max out sewage and clog at the refinery, the cuprium will not be produced
Btw what's the sewage input output ratio again?
1 to 1 unit right? So it's weird that sewage just poof into thin air
i mean you can set your graph view to like 1d/8hours or whatever the settings were
let say i fill sawage into the unit like 50 sawage inside that crucible. after 1 day it decrease becoming 25 sawage. where does the 25 sawage go?
checked the xiranite consumption. xiranite have no excess, all used.
For what
thats just it evening out between the 2 crucibles, i think 
or maybe inside pipes and stuff
if it clog. there should be xiranite excess in the building
For the xircon stuff
If u supply 10 unit sewage, at the end after xircon rock produced, the sewage by product shud also retain at 10 units right?
it takes a bit of time to make a whole loop after all
xircon is 2->1
evening out won't result in decrease of only 25 sawage in around 24 hours
What if you put a storage tank on the pipe?
P sure it does…
the pipes really travelled the long way 
If your xiranite is being fully used then thats not an issue ….?
Ik not talking about formula ratio
Bronya is saying the sewage decreases
I don rmb sewage will disappear
10 goes in 10 comes out with xircon rock at the end
i dont get how to set up this water stuff at all 
what are you even calculating... everything in game is minutes based... from where is that evening out you assume even from
xircon doesnt have any kind of decay yeah no
yes sure. now that i need to do that daily
factory games and funky fluid mechanics
name a better duo
I can never imagine the smell coming out of people when they create things like this
its just the sewage in your main unit is being spread between all the reactor crucibles and pipes in the recipe loop
since its well, a loop
My first thought as well
The amount in the loop is constant
Just like initially how u put in 50 seed, it will even out into 25 25 between seeder and planter
not exactly but depends on the size of the loop
Until u manually stuff more in
@atomic fiber try stuff ur sewage to max in that loop
And see if it remains the same
I'm not maxing it on the loop. that will just clog the crucible because then it can't output the sawage, because it maxed.
I'm just giving an example
Since planter seeder usually stuck next to each other so, there's less deviation from some mid-travelling on the conveyor belts
For liquid stuff, it could be more spread thin cuz pipe can hold 2 unit water per 1 unit pipe
Also because pipes transport faster than facility production rate instead of being even
so it will naturally balance out
U just said it will decrease
Now u say it will clog since it will stay maxed
So in the end, there's no decrease

do i just add a conduit inlet or replace any one of treatment unit into conduit inlet to supply slop into a SC battery bp
you do you ig
ye
yes
Wut about mine
what
the
fu
Its decently compact but like
its everywhere
you need 2 cuprium refineries for the new batteries right?
1 if you loop sewage
the sewege from the xircon crucible?
yee its one and the same
I almost get 12 sc battery
Just 11 unless I need run more heat block things
To get that
@vast iron I got a stupid idea
I make the sewege in the sub aic and send it straight to the main aic
how stupid is that idea?
yes
The stupidity isnt even quantifiable
its great
I just don't want to bother with fitting the refinery in the main aic design
Why am I running out of Yanzen is this not an infinite loop? I initially started with putting 50 on them teach
you mean this ain't a stupid idea?
stares
give a proper answer
water
more water
ahh.. more pump = more water? i thought it would be the same regardless. lol
the things i do for 5 power
Oh what the heck is this
logik
peak productivity, thats what
I'M FREEEEEEEEEE
holy molly
wadafaq is going on here
my very own xircon line todayy
can you sell bottles with sewage in depot node?
Just use water
which one do you guys prefer for factory 1.1
extra Vally IV HC battery
or
extra Syringe C
these are 2 of the most common 1.1 factory I saw
That bottle swage does nothing
sewage can't be transfered from 1 aic to another unless u use bottle
Can’t spray
sewage goes to my Xircon Effluent






