aic-factory

[novel herald]

Should put dat into consideration

[dark furnace]

after 1 day of logging out

[vapid granite]

uGHH reading the "does not generate pollution" knowing there is no pollution mechanic in the factories yet is already getting me a headache

[dark furnace]

somehow the game has its own calculation method

[novel herald]

Self clogging for 0.5 works well no?

[dark furnace]

when you aren't online looking at the factory

[novel herald]

It's stable for me

[marble yarrow]

yeah

[dark furnace]

it is stable for me when it's 0.5 clog

[novel herald]

Trying to find 0.25 clog now

[storm garnet]

maybe it's just flavor meaning it just deletes it

[marble yarrow]

25/min clog worked perfect for me throughout 1.0

since i used 115/min of ferrium

[vapid granite]

nah they will totally make pollution, its a factory game they gon add it later

[marble yarrow]

its 1 every 4

[novel herald]

@marble yarrow did u try dis side by side with a normal belt btw?

[novel herald]

Haoooooo

[marble yarrow]

you can just count the square

[novel herald]

XD

Wait lemme ss

[storm garnet]

i would argue sewage is already pollution kinda

satisfactory didn't have pollution in the same sense as factorio, too

[dark furnace]

i played safe and used 3 spliters to feed 1/6 back to depot

[dim jolt]

Maybe i should drop LC battery

[marble yarrow]

it shows 115/min everytime in my aic report so its great

[young stag]

why does one of my conduits output 1/s consistently and the other oscillating between 0/s and 2/s

they’re the same factories i copy pasted over

[marble yarrow]

but yeah directing into depot is safer

[storm garnet]

btw i still don't know why is this double of what it should (also quadruple on theorical)

[rain schooner]

what is the max amount of xircon you can make? Is it 60 or 30?

[young stag]

60

[marble yarrow]

depot loader 115 vs self-clog 115

back then

[rain schooner]

are you sure? When Im at 60, im making too much cuprium....i get clogged

then it drops down to 30

[slim moat]

why do you need to clog ferrium?

[young stag]

60 at 100% uptime

[slim moat]

cant you just ship bottles

[dark furnace]

why the depot loader one looks so complicated

[nova osprey]

exact measurements

just a preference thing

[marble yarrow]

the 2 refining unit receives 11/12th of a belt each

[young stag]

wym too much copium

[marble yarrow]

flow manipulation to achieve exact ratio

[young willow]

Is the only change to base materials this patch +120 cuprium?

[marble yarrow]

this is a 3.125/min yazhen C

[young stag]

and an extra 120 orig

[young willow]

Or are other mats buffed because of levels

[young willow]

Where r those

[rain schooner]

Cuprium. I have 2 xircon machines set up but one of them got clogged because I was making too much cuprium and not using it fast enough but I already have one syringe A machine up

[young willow]

I gotta find em

[young stag]

rdl 8

[young willow]

I need my spreadsheet

[young willow]

Does it only affect originium?

[young stag]

yes

[young willow]

So what are our total max resources

I gotta start doing math

[still trail]

Is there somewhere i can post my current factory setup incase people are interested? Tried in here and it wont let me lol

[young stag]

make copium parts then sell it off to outpost if you need to unclog

[rain schooner]

good point

[nova osprey]

480 originium
0 amethyst
90 ferrium
120 copium

[young willow]

Ty

[rain schooner]

but it should just cycle without getting clogged

[slate plume]

#1461542035617091681

[rain schooner]

annoying to say the least

[young willow]

To the spreadsheet I go.. will prob have a factory up and running by midnight hopefully

[young stag]

or find some other way to use the copium

like idk syringe a

[nova osprey]

are you recycling sewage?

[rain schooner]

yeh

[nova osprey]

you still have two treatment plants for sewage yeah?

[young willow]

Any other conditions I must know? Like do I have to burn a certain ammount of cuprium constantly?

[nova osprey]

pretty much yes

for sewage

to make sc batteries

not really burn, but refine

[young willow]

Yea but if all you do is refine then you stack it up till it becomes a problem

[marble yarrow]

yeah you can actually burn each resource at any config ratio, and just leave originium to have excess

i have material-balancing for each component config

[stoic coyote]

Make syringe A

[abstract urchin]

have u calculated energy usage for the new flamethrower turret?
interface said "60/use" but idk how much its used in one run

[young stag]

can’t figure out why this clogs

[stoic coyote]

To use the cuprium

[nova osprey]

yeeah, make it into syringes then sell them

[rain schooner]

Here the one on the far right (curpirum) was clogged when I logged in today. I guess I just have to make parts to sell off excess

[young stag]

i only have a 1/s pipe returning from making xircon

[nova osprey]

let me go check, i have the fire ones setup at an alluvium down south

might as well go do that

[wispy grove]

Only the battery that fluctuates

[rain schooner]

If i try and put another filing unit for my syringe, I end up using too much cuprium then

[young stag]

what do you guys do with the sewage from making xircon

[marble yarrow]

RIP

[rain schooner]

Seems you can balance it

[young willow]

Are we rich enough for permanent gear material creation now or do I still need a switch

[young stag]

treat or store

[stoic coyote]

New fire turret only best in defense though

[nova osprey]

oh but you're making syringes?

[stoic coyote]

Not useful on field

[small creek]

we are but u have to throttle a bunch of things

[rain schooner]

yeh let me take pic

[nova osprey]

still 1.5/min

[wispy grove]

Yazhen isnt affected by sewage clogging

[young willow]

A switch it is then..

[analog karma]

thoughts on the xircom production, with the sewage, i wonder if you could loop it cause dont it produce and consume sewage?

[wispy grove]

Wierd

[young willow]

Thanks

[analog karma]

fill a tank and then loop it to self feed?

[small creek]

u can make a maximum of 2 comps/min while still keeping up with outpost income, but its so annoying to implement that you should just do 1.5/min instead

[stoic coyote]

I'd rather put more treatment unit

[young willow]

Ic

[dark furnace]

pretty smart to clog the output 1/6 instead of feeding back to depot ngl

[neon path]

produces 1/2s but you need 2/2s

[vapid granite]

UGHH so that's how you make SC batteries with poop bruh

[rain schooner]

Here. I added another filing unit on the left to try and use excess cuprium but now theoretical data is saying im using too much. Seems like I just have to make parts and sell off excess. You cannot balance the system

[analog karma]

ah gotcha

[marble yarrow]

you still on 1.5/min? you know, im kinda wanting to go back to 12/min to experience the sewage clogging they talk about

[vapid granite]

So I LITERALLY GOTTAT CREATE Curprium to create batteries

[small creek]

ima stay on 1.5 forever fam

sewage clog is so funny

[outer basin]

Well you were right. I must have confused a splitter/bridge somewhere. Thank you!

[marble yarrow]

i want to create my own problems too

[small creek]

btw haruna could u help me make a self-clog later for 5.25 syringe

unless u already have one 👀

[neon path]

I have 1 sewage pipe from refinery and 1 from loopback in my setup, seems to work

[nova osprey]

weird, looks fine

[young stag]

so is this a bad idea or

[wispy grove]

You're welcome

[marble yarrow]

i didnt self clog

[stoic coyote]

Why bro storing waste

[young stag]

total output is 3/s but i only use 2 to feed reactors

[small creek]

oh u depot?

[stoic coyote]

Oh wait

[stoic coyote]

You can just store waste then stash the tank

[marble yarrow]

coz its the cuprium section lmao and i leave it just that

[stoic coyote]

👍

[young stag]

it’s more like a buffer

but yeah i do that sometimes

[stoic coyote]

Yeah

[small creek]

wtf combined

i was also thinking abt this earlier

[small creek]

but i already have my cuprium comp and xir comp combined

[rain schooner]

no....its working....the problem is my data is off.....here look. Before the xircon machine was clogged causing it only making 30 a min....then I added another filing unit to the syringe machine but now its saying um using too much cuprium

[marble yarrow]

xir comp lmaoo u still hoarding

[small creek]

now i have to combine syringeA too?

[nova osprey]

it's like 1k per run ish

[marble yarrow]

why not. new challenge

[small creek]

HELL YEAH THE HOARD NEVER STOPS 🗣️

[small creek]

ok but the thing is

im already in the middle of combining yazhenA+jincaoC

[abstract urchin]

oh thats still nice, thanks

[small creek]

to kill one crucible

so atp ill be combining all 4 fucking things

yazhenA, jincaoC, cupr comp, and xir comp

[marble yarrow]

ahh you grouped the meds, and comps

[small creek]

yeap theyre separate

if i group yazhA and cupr comp, ill need to group everything lmao

gonna be awesome if i do it but my core aic dying

fac limit and space

[marble yarrow]

all these weird ratios yeah. i touched the facility limit

[nova osprey]

hmm unsure what's going on

[small creek]

ive been constantly edging it

lowk tempted to just move my 120 xiranite to subpac

[outer basin]

Am I supposed to have 30 spare Ferrium in Wuling?

[marble yarrow]

i removed the PWM and just do this

[small creek]

but then ill lose my testing ground for design..

hc batt

[nova osprey]

oh wait i just realized, you're making 6/min sc and lc right?

[mighty yacht]

Why not use a inlet to feed the water closer and keep the blueprint less reliant on extra piping?

[marble yarrow]

10.5 SC, and tons of LC in depot

[small creek]

btw heres my progress on YazhA+JincC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463037619091800227/1482934426039222342/image.png?ex=69b8c1ce&is=69b7704e&hm=c397b50d54f7d11bbe97c4ab27b487c978f49821cae0bad948a83bf2efeadcde&

[viscid plover]

dum dum in a box

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

i dont want a 3x3 building there

[small creek]

minor problem, i have to get the right shredder through the bridges

[nova osprey]

why are you making jincao tea

[marble yarrow]

thats why i hate conduits

they are 3x3

[small creek]

true..

[mighty yacht]

Lol fair

[small creek]

as much as possible i avoid conduit

its also annoying have to reconnect when you move the inlet or outlet

[marble yarrow]

they are just outside the AIC and directly next to what they provide

[small creek]

the chad pipe that goes over the depot:

[viscid plover]

diversify my portfolio

[small creek]

u can do that but its more fac 🥀

[dark furnace]

I stopped producing cuprium component and went 12/m battery for a few days now because I already have 12k components, should be enough until they release new component

[small creek]

and cant include fac outside aic in blueprint

[marble yarrow]

downside, yes

[patent lava]

Its hard to find a NA one. But does anyone have a good LC Battery Valley IV production line to get alot of battery per minutes so I can sell for the Infra-STA

[nova osprey]

i think the game gives you an lc battery blueprint

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464267337321681028

[nova osprey]

may be wrong

[vapid granite]

Ugh making SC batteries look so painful.. .. . . . .

[upper fiber]

you can do it step by step

and connect them later

[small creek]

i hate xircon 🗣️ 🔥

[vapid granite]

I feel like i have to delete everything to reorganize shit so it looks organized

[marble yarrow]

too bad the newly constructed Sewage Highway didnt get used by the citizens 🥀

[vapid granite]

weird kink

[marble yarrow]

(maybe i will just run and loop it back)

also from base to 40k pool and back to base stores 2000 liquid in this double pipe

[novel herald]

What's different from urs?

[real blaze]

Looks like a pile of spaghetti but it does continuously produce cuprum if xircon backs up

[marble yarrow]

lmao RIP

[novel herald]

Mine is 1/3 🥲

[marble yarrow]

i have an idea

you self clog half, and self clog half next

[vapid granite]

Doesnt do anything yet?

[outer basin]

Is that a concern?

[nova osprey]

probably wont do anything ever @.@

maybe

[novel herald]

I tried dis, but it didn't work as there's not enough item on the belt to self clog the next one

[nova osprey]

@marble yarrow the convergers are the problem 100%

i found it

[languid hedge]

maybe in 1.2 new fluid

[marble yarrow]

oh wait, true

[nova osprey]

finally fucking found it

it's fixed, production is now stable

[real blaze]

yes, since you are not going to consume xircon at 60/min due to the limited originium throughput in wuling

[marble yarrow]

DEPOT LOADER GAMING 😭

[nova osprey]

anything that converges to max capacity doesn't work properly when offline

[upper fiber]

not rdl lv8 yet?

[novel herald]

[outer basin]

Oh, is this a thing when you start integrating Components?

[storm garnet]

cut the belt later so everything clogs, copy the splitters and convergers elsewhere and delete the ones you are using, copy them back in, and see if it works

[rain schooner]

there is something wrong with this game man

I log out and log back in the next day.....data is off in the aic. Then I fix it, and everything is stable....rinse repeat

like wtf

[wintry lotus]

Does anyone else have an issue where when you go offline your cuprium stash goes up? Graphs are changing by a tiny little tick the moment i log on but it resolves itself straight away automatically. Weirdest thing is the sewage situation. Some of the crucibles that use sewage are filling up but that shouldnt be the case. I verified this while im online. Like left it on for ages staring at it. The other thing is if i have a pile of xircon those get drained. The weird thing is its not really affecting the production line by much. Its hard to tell if im losing out or not pm any production/

[storm garnet]

offline servers are iffy

[wintry lotus]

Im pretty certain my build is 100% efficient. 12/min sc battery, 6/min syringe A

[vapid granite]

Wait so i put it in a crucible, then i put it in another crucible?

[nova osprey]

there's an issue with convergers when you converge everything to max capacity

[marble yarrow]

(game server is burning now they add cuprium and sewage in this patch)

[real blaze]

if you mean using cuprum and xircon elsewhere in the factory yes

[nova osprey]

don't converge pipes to 2/s

it doesn't calculate it properly when offline

[storm garnet]

we heard you like reactor crucibles, so we put a reactor crucible on your reactor crucible

[viscid plover]

imagine they make this into something relevant in the future *nuclear waste-

[wintry lotus]

let me check but i am almost certain that i use no convergers. Splitters only,

[outer basin]

I'm just confused because I'm at 480/480 Originium and 60/60 Xircon, but I haven't started working on Components yet.

[nova osprey]

what about sewage pipes?

or water pipes

[hidden elm]

is this good? im done for now right?

[rain schooner]

dude I have this too but everytime i log off and back on something gets f'd up

its incredibly indruriating

[vapid granite]

Bruh THREE reactor crucibles crazy

[wintry lotus]

I am quite certain i dont have convergers on anything. Like I have no reason to

[nova osprey]

yeah looks good

[nova osprey]

liquid wise you dont?

i see

[wintry lotus]

nope

[real blaze]

hold on did I miss an originium mining site?

[nova osprey]

send a ss of your setup then i guess o.o;;

and also a ss of your sc battery maker

[wintry lotus]

urgh... im on ps5 so that might be a pain to do

[nova osprey]

oof

[mortal socket]

hmmmm

[viscid plover]

5 in total btw

[stiff flame]

if combine 3 pumps then split to 3, do each output the same as 1 pump?

[hidden elm]

the regional transfer auto reset once a trasfer is done right?

[mortal socket]

i just managed to make a 14x28 yazhen A set up

[hidden elm]

1 water / 2s

[nova osprey]

are you regional development level 8

[vapid granite]

20 WHAAT

[mortal socket]

yes

[real blaze]

💀

[nova osprey]

0.67 /s

you cannot combine 3 pumps

[rotund grove]

is ths staggered depot bus optimal?

[mortal socket]

well in theory at least, but you cannot combine 3 pumps

[nova osprey]

if you do it will cap it to 2/s

[mortal socket]

each pump outpits 1/s but pipe capacity is 2/s

[hidden elm]

ngl i'd just do 5:20 ratio with 4 packaging units, its more space optimised that way

[wintry lotus]

I'll try find a way to screenshot if i can. Im testing out offline situation a bit more so im not gonna log back on for a while.

[vapid granite]

wdym showcase pls

[nova osprey]

can take brief mobile screenshots?

[rain schooner]

is no one else having trouble balancing the theoretical data/current data?

[spark hedge]

Xiranite 30/min, xircon 30/min, syringe 6/min, hc wuling bat 6/min https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482690912416174145

[nova osprey]

uhh which items

[hidden elm]

you see the theoretical stats says 24, meaning i use 4 packaging units (each produces 3/m), if you interested i could take a screenshot of my build (or semd you my blueprint)

[rain schooner]

cuprium/xircon. yesterday before I logged out everything was good but when I logged in, I had too much cuprium

[nova osprey]

how much is too much?

[rain schooner]

it was max and I wasnt using it fast enough.

[nova osprey]

did it completely stop your xircon?

[storm garnet]

somehow there are still recipes i don't have

[rain schooner]

but I already had one syringe machine up

[nova osprey]

can i see your setup?

[marble yarrow]

yeah its a setup issue

[rain schooner]

no

[nova osprey]

can i see your aic report

[nova osprey]

sadly it's so inefficient x.x

[storm garnet]

ye, just for collection, like all the bottle ones

[marble yarrow]

lmaooo removing the "star" kills every chart for a second

[rain schooner]

The syringe pic, I just removed the filing unit on the left

[smoky eagle]

finally!!!

[nova osprey]

whats the aic report looking like

[smoky eagle]

???? this real?

[rain schooner]

sec

[nova osprey]

it's a silkpost ||it's actually real||

[smoky eagle]

what machine is that

[storm garnet]

it's on a refiner, yes

[rain schooner]

I had to make some structures to burn through mats so its messed up right now

[smoky eagle]

refiner 😮

[storm garnet]

it's useless, wuling plants are still better

[trail mirage]

tf is that

[storm garnet]

a recipe

[nova osprey]

why is your reaciton crucible clogged

[trail mirage]

is that citiride?

[nova osprey]

ground citrome

[rain schooner]

which one?

[storm garnet]

buckflower version too ofc

[nova osprey]

for the medicine

could be nothing

[trail mirage]

i thought its jincao

[nova osprey]

real question is, does ground jincao exist

[storm garnet]

nope

[nova osprey]

ehh

[marble yarrow]

idk why you have double facility for yazhen A

[nova osprey]

ew

[trail mirage]

NO

[storm garnet]

well, maybe, idk anymore lol

[nova osprey]

[trail mirage]

im sped

[rain schooner]

i removed it. Its only 1 now

[paper magnet]

Not yet

[real blaze]

Nope

[rain schooner]

I was trying to fix something

[paper magnet]

But I'm p sure ground jincao will be made with like sandleaf2 or sth

[trail mirage]

I dont think 1.2 is gonna include a factory upgrade

[storm garnet]

btw, recipe won't appear until you power it anyways

[vestal tiger]

Maybe a new sub pac

[marble yarrow]

its in the preview

[nova osprey]

wait we got 1.2 preview already?

[rain schooner]

it takes 2 secs to build a bottle with the medicine in it and 10 sec's to make the syringe

[paper magnet]

It's in the 1.1 preview

[marble yarrow]

part of the 1.1 preview

[trail mirage]

wuling is prob only gonna have 2 sub aic and then we going to new region

[nova osprey]

ahh kk

[paper magnet]

The 1.2 preview preview

Tbh I wish we got more wuling

V4 was very boring to me

It looks dreary asf

[marble yarrow]

weird liquids

[trail mirage]

wuling prob will end after 1.4 maybeeeee 1.5

[marble yarrow]

"in the next version", "one of those maps"

[rain schooner]

they are gonna make this trash system even worse

[paper magnet]

I don't like that once you fix the qingbo stockade issues in the msq

[nova osprey]

what's the blue liquid

[paper magnet]

The stockade still has those filthy landbreakers

[storm garnet]

well, we technically got 3 new liquids this patch

[nova osprey]

[upper fiber]

in orange color, out red color?

[young stag]

why lc

[marble yarrow]

yeah the orange are dark and light

also looks like a centrifuge

[upper fiber]

orange + light green liquid xyra = red huh

[nova osprey]

ooo liquid mixing

[marble yarrow]

thing is, it doesnt look like xiranite

[young stag]

copium solution

[hushed blaze]

I can't do two react at the same time?

[marble yarrow]

the yellow liquid is different

[nova osprey]

yes you can but that one, not enough space

[upper fiber]

you can, but need to slow down 1 input

[marble yarrow]

LIQUID SANDLEAF NO WAY

[nova osprey]

that's not at the same time though

[nova osprey]

NO PLEASE

[storm garnet]

use the 2 in 1 reactor trick for liquid xiranite + liquid food

[nova osprey]

i love making liquid food next to my liquid radiation

[patent lava]

Its the only one I can sell at lv 1 infra

[young stag]

how would that even work

sandleaf is sandpaper irl no

[storm garnet]

i could optimizate it more, but i think it's fine

[nova osprey]

eh how more?

[storm garnet]

the hard part is that each one needs 2/s water

pipes i mean

[mortal socket]

14x27 yazhen syringe A hell yeah

[storm garnet]

just making it look better, i think, but can't bother anymore

[nova osprey]

ah

[nova osprey]

i would say hell yeah but convergers can die

[mint pagoda]

what to do when making too much sewage

[mortal socket]

why lmao

[proven sigil]

turn into drinkable water

[young stag]

treatment

or store it back

[nova osprey]

there's an issue with convergers when they converge to max capacity

they don't run properly

[storm garnet]

just delete and put it back again

[nova osprey]

and you lose a tiny amount of efficiency

[mortal socket]

they do?

[nova osprey]

yes

[mortal socket]

damn

[nova osprey]

i just fixed it

before and after

[upper fiber]

if you online no issue

[mortal socket]

are you sure?

[nova osprey]

correct

[nova osprey]

yes

[mortal socket]

it doesnt seem to be causing any issues in my design

[storm garnet]

my 1.0 nightmare was convergers next to an output, now they are a nightmare anywhere

[nova osprey]

only if you're offline do convergers run weird

[hollow crest]

@fluid fog were you able to find out how to solve the desync issue?

[nova osprey]

and you get tiny dips, eventually

[scenic swift]

not fixed you can still see the dip in xirinate, the afk efficiency cant be fixed unless you overload every line

and its impossible to overload every line

[cobalt oriole]

It’ll break itself once u log off

[nova osprey]

my xiranite isn't fixed actut

[storm garnet]

they are literally talking about that

[cobalt oriole]

I still have the issue

[nova osprey]

actually

those are still running on convergers

[hollow crest]

Oh I saw something about water storage

[nova osprey]

I'm too tired to fix it

lol

[mortal socket]

ah i see

[nova osprey]

yes it's caused by converger filling a pipe or belt

[scenic swift]

its not because of convergers even valley iv doesnt run at 100% while offline without any convergers or water/pipes

[rain schooner]

OK HERE LOOK! ITS ALL BALANCED RIGHT? When I log out tonight and log back in tomorrow, something will be f'ed up. There is something wrong with the damn game man I swear

[hollow crest]

Convergers? I don't even use any

[nova osprey]

i mean fair but this kind of discrepency is definitely due to some problem

[cobalt oriole]

It legit fks up water so bad that my battery production is a damn seesaw

[storm garnet]

this feels like satisfactory fluids early access version all over again

[nova osprey]

which is the converger

[viscid plover]

what the helli

[hollow crest]

I think djinu was able to fix it, search his name, sth about tons of water storage to store the sewage water

[rain schooner]

I have 2 batt facilities running and I have one charger attached to each

1 charger isnt enough

[viscid plover]

[scenic swift]

because inputs always lose a little bit while offline you can only fix it by overloading every input

[mortal socket]

ok this yazhen A design works, now to make the reactor array for xircon

[cobalt oriole]

Brother I have 2 and I use 3.36k

Just attach one bro

[rapid kelp]

H2 make Xiranite + sewage react from just one cubicle. I see it glitches out to that sometimes with my zircon setup but can't seem to replicate it

[storm garnet]

feeding from machine to bank is a risky move, it's better to have the depot as intermediary

[rain schooner]

im at 3.59k

[storm garnet]

especially with all these bugs

[cobalt oriole]

I can go to sleep with xircon at 50/50 for everything and wake up to 0/50 in everything

Fkin painful

[mortal socket]

i believe it is impossible to have it work at 100% efficiency

[cobalt oriole]

Cut down bro you save so many bats that way

[high orbit]

what do you build first in wuling for starter base to make some stock bills

[rain schooner]

cut down on what? lol

I have 4 forges, 1 syringe facility and 2 batt fac running

[cobalt oriole]

Disable farm, swap to water mining rigs, turn off useless pumps and facilities

[storm garnet]

turrets, ziplines, put hydro miners on every ore node

[cobalt oriole]

That’s what I’m running and I even have a backup power setup

[rain schooner]

Im fine wasting 4 batt. Its not a big deal

[hollow crest]

Wasting 4 batts???

[rain schooner]

id rather do that and have all my zip lines and stuff up

[cobalt oriole]

You only need to do it once to get benefits forever

[rain schooner]

do what once?

[cobalt oriole]

@rain schooner

[hollow crest]

[storm garnet]

well, "doing something once to get benefits forever" applies to everything actually

[rain schooner]

its really not that big of a deal. Im not gonna go around removing ziplines and stuff just to save 2 or 1 batt

[hollow crest]

We barely sell out to these stockade bum even with max production, not helping that the desync issue is causing your offline production to dip lol

[cobalt oriole]

YOU DONT NEED TO REMOVE ZIPS

Changing the rigs is enough

I have 40/40 zips

[rain schooner]

So it is a desync issue?

[cobalt oriole]

And still sub 3.4k

[marble yarrow]

i have 30 ziplines and power is 3.1k

[rain schooner]

Is that why my stuff gets broken when i log in

It pisses me off

[hollow crest]

It is, many have experienced it

[rain schooner]

so much

[cobalt oriole]

Should be cos I’m having the issue with my setup

[hollow crest]

The rate is flawless when u online

[rain schooner]

well thats good to know becuase I know I had it perfect last night but when I logged in this morning one machine was off

[cobalt oriole]

Waking up to 0/50 xircon in your machines when you banked it to 50/50 b4 sleep is pain

[rain schooner]

I dont think the devs thought about how "heavy" this system would be. Eventually we are gonna have more and more places too....the desync issues are just gonna get worse and worse

[storm garnet]

even in 1.0 i had desyc problems tbh

[scenic swift]

the loss is very small you aer overeacting to worry about it

[smoky eagle]

lmao it's real

[storm garnet]

that's how i learned the hard way to not feed banks directly from a machine

[hollow crest]

I blame water, this issue exist in 1.0 already, but because factory used too little water at the time, it doesnt matter much

[cobalt oriole]

In the long term it turns into 11/min overall if you zoom out the time

To like 2h

Suffering

[storm garnet]

(i say learned as if i didn't already see it coming and still ignored it)

[mental cobalt]

is it worth producing the new wuling battery and syringe or no

[cobalt oriole]

And the main issue is if you are feeding a power system with it

[scenic swift]

yes but thats because the graph is rounding it may say 17/18 but it would actually be like 17.95/18

over time

[tall thunder]

Battery

[proven sigil]

syringe

[cobalt oriole]

The thermal banks get fked over if you connect them to sc setup

[tall thunder]

New battery sells for 54

[cobalt oriole]

Need to basically setup a separate system connected to depot to ensure it’s smooth

[rain schooner]

they do? how?

thats how I have mine set up

[tall thunder]

I only use 2 Thermal Banks. 1 From T1 Battery and 1 for T2 the rest goes to the bank. It can produce 5K power

[storm garnet]

sc battery is 108 if you count it as x2, but if you still made lc you can get the equivalent of 66.6 only

[cobalt oriole]

If your xircon production is not smooth cos of the desync, you batteries start losing a few seconds every cycle. Over time to gap gets worse until you run out. This is less difficult with 2 thermal banks but if u only running one it’s a pain.

[rain schooner]

oh i have 2 up...maybe thats why I havent noticed it

[storm garnet]

even if originium is no issue, it's still only 100, 8 short

[rain schooner]

I do get the xircon desync tho....because cuprium isnt being used when im logged off

[scenic swift]

because if you step back what you are actually losing is like 2 sandleaf out of 990 and 3 ferrium out of 1080 per minute. Those cause you to produce 1 less final product but its not every minute. The actual efficiency would be about 99.7% if you do the math on it.

[vale topaz]

depends on how fast can you deplete stock lvl 3 which already boosted by completing turret defense mini game and put operator with stock regeneration bonus.

[cobalt oriole]

@scenic swift This is my main issue with the desync

[scenic swift]

yeah the power could be problem if you are using battery saving methods

[rain schooner]

1080 sandleaf? holy. wtf are you making?

haha

[smoky eagle]

is this not a thing >.< lmao

[storm garnet]

that's normal actually

[rain schooner]

yeh i just saw he had it set to 2 hours

[scenic swift]

thats in valley 4

[rain schooner]

lol

[vale topaz]

aketine and sandleaf powder ?

[smoky eagle]

aketine is so underused after already producing enough bomb lol

[fluid fog]

that's normal for fully HC and Medicine.

[cobalt oriole]

That’s for v4 normal yeah. About 360 is normal for Wuling rn

[fluid fog]

w8 until we can make nukes.

[vale topaz]

xiranite powered explosive....

[storm garnet]

i have 540 max on wuling, dude

ah, 360 normal flower, yes

[cobalt oriole]

I’m gonna setup a separate thermal banks setup

[smoky eagle]

oh shoot!

[storm garnet]

we all tripping here

[cobalt oriole]

I’m just sick of barely not meeting it

[crimson inlet]

I just realized you can place your whole xircon line outside the AIC area

anything that doesn't require a belt still processes it

[young stag]

saves no space basically

[storm garnet]

oh, so that's what they meant with letting you put machines outside the aic

[young stag]

the aic area already takes up like 99% of the actual space

[young stag]

you already could before iirc

power banks and stuff

you just can’t use it because it requires belts

[crimson inlet]

source: @XDDDD_ARPG in twitter

[smoky eagle]

ooh

[storm garnet]

belts too when

it would be nice if they at least let us connect the belt to machines outside if they are right next to the aic

[crimson inlet]

you save belt space...

[storm garnet]

does everyone have 240 liquid xiranite on their stats?

[unreal laurel]

did we give up on being space efficient?

[storm garnet]

that depends on your personality

[copper lily]

Using crucible in out of factory area still counted as space efficient.

[stuck crane]

does the water treatment unit has a 1:1 ratio?

[cobalt oriole]

Does anyone know how to turn a 30/min line into 1.5/min line?

Is it even possible

[storm garnet]

yes

[storm garnet]

you divide by 5, then a few 2

[fluid fog]

0.5 item / s to waste.

[cobalt oriole]

Ok divide by 5 how

[storm garnet]

sec

[scenic swift]

its 1/20th

[storm garnet]

it can be smaller, but then you need less than 30 on the input

[cobalt oriole]

Tks I’ll copy

[grave wedge]

IVE GOT A BUILD FINALLY

[storm garnet]

this works if you get a bit less than 30

[grave wedge]

What is this etre ?!

[storm garnet]

?

[grave wedge]

What is that you are building I would like to know

[storm garnet]

oh, i made this a while ago for someone else here

[stuck crane]

is there a way to do cuprium components without screwing the balance of the aic?

[fluid fog]

so far I can calculate like 1.6666 but not sure 1.5/m

[storm garnet]

they were asking for a 1 to 5 balancer and i got into it

[scenic swift]

you can also import them if you are to lazy

[storm garnet]

i made the second one first but then noticed that it doesn't work if input is full

[alpine patio]

hows the wuling base should look like for 1.1 ? what to produce

[storm garnet]

12 sc, 6 yanzhen a

2.75 yanzhen c, that's the most basic setup

[thorn pike]

I've reached abundance and tranquility

Now do i need to make Jincao Drinks anymore?

[barren vigil]

Up to you

[long flax]

I just realized my PAC lost all power because there wasn't enough Sewage.

[thorn pike]

will i run empty without syringeC/Jincao Drink?

[storm garnet]

jincao drinks can be still done in half capacity alongside yanzhen c like 1.0

[vale topaz]

cuprium part.... in case you need more to build hydro miner and water outlets for future version

[long flax]

How much xircon are you making?

[storm garnet]

idk, but it's free to make a few of them anyways

[pulsar cypress]

Nop. Its just bonus production..
U can use to make others also besides c type..

[scenic swift]

you use the leftover ferium on them

[thorn pike]

I can do max capacity Jincao Drinks but that requires daily manual bottle transfer from Valley

[long flax]

Thank you. Im gonna build my 4th pipeline.

[thorn pike]

and im lazy af

[thorn pike]

60 xircon makes 12 battery/min

[stuck crane]

with cuprium comp how would the output of the AIC be?

[cobalt oriole]

Tks for the help @storm garnet . 30/min to 1.5?min sc batt setup done!

[storm garnet]

Np

[long flax]

Thank you. So 3 packing units to get that right?

[storm garnet]

Lol my pre edit

[thorn pike]

2

[scenic swift]

a single power plant can only eat 1.5 battery a min/ to rate limiting the line to 1.5 is pointless 🤔

[cobalt oriole]

I like it exact sue me

[storm garnet]

I'll check your pic a bit later to see if it's actually 1.5,i'm busy rn

[thorn pike]

no, they WANT the energy to be drained intermitmentlyu

mine runs to 85 then back to 100 and immediately drained to 85 and repeat

perfect

[scenic swift]

yeah but to power save you would have to go below 1.5

[cobalt oriole]

With the current desync issues? It will

[long flax]

Thank you

[scenic swift]

unless you only want it to lose batteries while offline due the efficiency drop

[storm garnet]

Actually, feeding 1.5 like that is the same as feeding from a machine, it risks server errors

[thorn pike]

5 crucible to 1 packaging

total of 10 crucible and 2 package

[scenic swift]

yep

[thorn pike]

Never had that

[storm garnet]

Though even feeding from a machine is fine if you are not feeding 4 banks with 1 machine

[scenic swift]

let me give you an example your machine is producing 6 and you cut the line in half one to warehouse and the other to 2 to powerplants.. they are eating 3 exactly so.. you can guess what happens when the offline efficiency drops

[thorn pike]

that's why endfield AIC is like

if it shows 120/min

it means 120.01/min

you always get a very tiny amount of surplus

[storm garnet]

Well, yea, it's still bad even with less than 4 since you want some to go to depot

[thorn pike]

that's why this happens despite the report says 90/120

[storm garnet]

Somehow putting extra belts everywhere helps a bit, but ugh

[thorn pike]

they look like this, but like 12 hours later we get full 50 and clog

they give surplus

[scenic swift]

we actually have a lot of extra inputs in wuling so it might be possible but valley 4 forget it

[storm garnet]

Cause belts are 1% slower offline

Well, sc needs 5 inputs...

[scenic swift]

you could have like 1 extra belt split into 10 lines so its adding 3/m that way they all get 33/m the belt mess would be wonderful to look at

[wintry lotus]

Hey guys regarding this issue i had earlier, i was able to secure screenshots from my ps5 so i can upload my builds for you guys to check. I have look through all my stuff for any pipe convergers. I have none. Can you guys help me look at this?

[storm garnet]

Everyone does have offline issues

Use more belts and less convergers

And wait for devs to fix things

[wintry lotus]

i said im using zero convergers

[scenic swift]

the copium stash goes up cause 99.xx% efficiency while offline

[wintry lotus]

ah

[dapper surge]

new AIC buggy as hell, watda??? why yield keep reducing when im offline and then back to original yield when im online? i do nothing

[wintry lotus]

okay so its common then

[outer bramble]

even seed loop not safe

[shadow canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482984979636944961

[scenic swift]

as long as everything is good while online its not a problem with your setup

[storm garnet]

Every 39 seconds a new person appears talking about offline efficiency

[dapper surge]

oh i just realize you all talking about it lol

[storm garnet]

But no one talking about 240 liquid xiranite...

[dapper surge]

ok let talk about it, im interested now

[wintry lotus]

okay so its not just a converger issue then. It just inconsistencies with offline processing in general with the new stuff

[storm garnet]

It should be 120,but stats say 240 for some reason

[atomic fiber]

i need a better way to do 1/5 belt. anyone can help? (basically I need 24/min or 6/min belt)

[scenic swift]

it was well noticed in 1.0 but they killed game feedback by closing comments so all the issues couldnt gain more notice

[outer bramble]

Optimization went wrong i guess

[dapper surge]

but mine 120

[storm garnet]

Are you cheating on my bp :(

[dapper surge]

[storm garnet]

Then why mine is double lol

[dapper surge]

nice cheat, show me setup, i need to copy your cheat

[karmic wasp]

why r some people making this although it's not sellable ?

[wintry lotus]

okay all good, cheers guys.

[dapper surge]

240 xiranice for my setup would good

[storm garnet]

I put a pic before, it doubles as a food setup

[dapper surge]

future vision

[storm garnet]

But last time i checked food is not xiranite

[karmic wasp]

[dapper surge]

[atomic fiber]

@severe nexus can you help
i need one that work offline too

[grave wedge]

The current build I’m using

[smoky eagle]

are there any pits i can fill in Qingbo?

[storm garnet]

The sewage one i guess

[grave wedge]

IMAGINE WE CAN FLOOD THE WHOLE WULING WITH XIRANITE

[smoky eagle]

yeahhhhh

JUST FINISHED THE 40K

Oops Capslock

[dapper surge]

AIC gaslight content 💔

[scenic swift]

there is 1 puddle in stockade you have to drain to get a chest maybe you can refill that one

[smoky eagle]

😮

thanks

looking for it

[severe nexus]

wait how do you check if something works offline

[storm garnet]

You go offline

[scenic swift]

I was sad we didnt get to use a single explosives in stockade guess we filled the warehouse for nothing

[dapper surge]

so i suppose i need to online all day for the stock running stable

[smoky eagle]

lol

[outer bramble]

fill delivery crate with these explosives

[storm garnet]

Good offline = no convergers i guess

[brave lagoon]

i noticed the new SC batteries eat way more originium do yall think i can just built it on my aic or do i have to reduce my lc wuling first to not have originium deficit, currently i make 12/min LC wuling

[smoky eagle]

instigate the stockaders

[dapper surge]

ok gotta find some random auto click

[wispy wren]

Injust saw a vid of transferring Dense originium for wuling power balance

HC batreries

[scenic swift]

its a conspiracy they want everyone to stay online so they can use our extra cpu power for bitcoin mining

[outer bramble]

[wispy wren]

Question is can't I just metastorage HC batteries directly?

[golden nymph]

is this the max that we can do for now?

[storm garnet]

Make lc until you have enough for lvl 3 outpost, then just sc

[dapper surge]

60

[wispy wren]

Yes i'll have like 660 deficiency per day but i can just do 1 cycle of manual transfer

[atomic fiber]

this 2 part. like for example you offline for 30 minutes. then go back online. and immediately see that part. if it don't broke that mean it work.

ofc usually it is better to wait for 24 hours for real test than 30 minutes.

[ornate dune]

[smoky eagle]

wait, do i need to make another crucible make these?

😮

[true furnace]

Yes

At most 2 atm

[smoky eagle]

so do i ditch the smaller battery?

coz that's a lot of originium to be used

and xiranite

[severe nexus]

ok i can try

[atomic fiber]

thx

[true furnace]

33% more originium for twice the power

I'd say yeah

[scenic swift]

you should at least make some of the new batteries for power

[smoky eagle]

I make 1 batch of new battery

1 each of these

[ornate dune]

wuling

[serene geyser]

why do you even need small battery now

[smoky eagle]

for selling i guess

[ornate dune]

why not do all new

[outer bramble]

your outpost still level 2?

[smoky eagle]

nyeeh alright i could replace it

[serene geyser]

lvl2 outpost&

[golden nymph]

im using 1 big and 1 small to power

[ornate dune]

outpost lvl 2?

[storm garnet]

If you have your outpost at lvl 3,you don't need any lc

[smoky eagle]

nah it's 3 now

i just reached 3 yesterday

[ornate dune]

then u don't need lc

[smoky eagle]

ok

[true furnace]

Since I use PWM, I'm fine with ditching the LC entirely

[smoky eagle]

new one more profitable letsgoo

whaaaa

[outer bramble]

My outpost still level 2 and I already ditch lc battery prod

[true furnace]

Yea I made that mistake too

[smoky eagle]

lmao

[true furnace]

Good thing I saved the LC setup in a blueprint beforehand

[storm garnet]

I had a ton so i switched to sc the first day even though i needed 3 days to level the outpost

I was only half smart

[outer bramble]

so using Jinchao Drink to level up the outpost for now

[smoky eagle]

How come i can't use the new Jincao Drink to gain bills

😭

[storm garnet]

Prob at lvl 4

[wispy wren]

My dumbass was making jincao tea before going to lvl 3.

Now i have 5k tea i can't even sell.

[smoky eagle]

where new jincao lol

i made 17k of it

[pulsar steeple]

Lmao, rip

[true furnace]

Is Jincao better or just a preference?

[smoky eagle]

i just assumed it was gonna be sellable

[wispy wren]

Probably on the next outpost

[marble yarrow]

bro invested early

[storm garnet]

Jincao tea is the best food for main dps in in my opinion, from the factory ones

I put yanzhen on allies

[pulsar steeple]

Bro invested into a nonexistent market

[pulsar steeple]

honestly. i go all out on Syringe A

[smoky eagle]

ooh, i just replace xiranite belt with xircon here huh it's that easy is it

[true furnace]

Add another dense originium belt

[uneven aspen]

My base has no space to experiment, and the production is tight to sellout the outpost stockbills. So I've tried some website tools, they all gotten way better since launch.

This makes my 42x22 battery to 39x23.

[smoky eagle]

oh right it needs 20 💀

[ornate dune]

this is the max ryt? or can i do more?

[true furnace]

crazy pipe tech

[storm garnet]

Wait, I finally realized why I have 240 liquid xiranite. It's counting the pumping from the 40k courtyard.

[uneven aspen]

ah yeah 😔 the route is still fine will fix it though

[wispy wren]

this is gamechanging

[uneven aspen]

fixed

[smoky eagle]

wait how do u make pipe do that?

[true furnace]

instant nerf

[uneven aspen]

it's a website tool, the piping is a bit buggy

[pulsar steeple]

Now make one where you have to make every material from scratch, including Xiranite and the sandleaf powder

[smoky eagle]

ah

[scenic swift]

I'm doing 6 LC battery 6 SC battery cause it gives me 2 ore lines left over which can be used to squeeze a little extra power (400 extra power)
for selling purposes LC/SC batteries come out to the same price
3 SC Battery = 162
6 LC Battery 0.75 Yazhen C = 150+12=162

[smoky eagle]

ahhh!

[uneven aspen]

would love if endfield added this in-game

[unique plover]

why is there this huge canyon if i select 1 day

[frail trail]

WHY

[pulsar steeple]

what even happened then

[storm garnet]

Power went off

[marble yarrow]

now sabotage the 3 deliveries

[frail trail]

they should implement a rating system for delivery

making it the real uber experience

[ornate dune]

what is it

[pulsar steeple]

i honestly don't understand what's wrong, i just get the goods, and deliver them via zipline

[storm garnet]

Dont censor though, let it be known

[outer bramble]

because why not?

[pulsar steeple]

i'm not really that deep into that pithole

[frail trail]

it was suppose to be a 79k delivery

[scenic swift]

they should make automated ziplines that send the packages for you so you dont have to do daily depot tasks anymore

[outer bramble]

there is no 'punishment' in this behavior

[frail trail]

my 26k wuling bills!!!

[smoky eagle]

that's the Jingyu Valley

🤣

[outer bramble]

😆

I stopped sharing Wuling delivery

[unique plover]

WAIT WHAT? its showing the production of jingyu valley? for xiranite...? i dont even have xiranite there

[scenic swift]

and we can only share 1 wuling but everyone wants to do 3.. there will mathematically never be enough for everyone

[storm garnet]

It's a pun

[cobalt oriole]

Yall are getting fked up deliveries? I basically never have a delivery fked with

Then again I send it out at like 9am

[unique plover]

OH

lmao

[smoky eagle]

the land between mountains is the valley lmao

KDNLASND

[cobalt oriole]

This is why you do it at 9am

[smoky eagle]

i made a cool red axe

[sonic summit]

will this dige work as 1,5 lc and 0,375 for each gearing ?

[storm garnet]

As long as you are online, everything works

[dapper surge]

you killing server

[sonic summit]

i need to go ofline

[outer bramble]

the belt slacking when we offline

[storm garnet]

I think devs regret making offline factory work for 1 week

[thin hearth]

What is going on 😭

[pulsar cypress]

The mining rig slacking when offline..

[outer bramble]

"The mining rig and belt is slacking when we are gone, how to fix this?"

[sonic summit]

trying to dige xiranite into 1/4 battery 1/8 for cupgearing and 1/8 for xiranite gearing

[hushed blaze]

Imagine offline over a week and you see entire raw materials already gone missing

[pulsar cypress]

Yesterday me find my origin ore almost empty when login in..
The rig didn't working even though the water and electric fine..

[smoky eagle]

lol

[pulsar cypress]

Half a day offline.. Originium almost gone..

[outer bramble]

[shell hinge]

Belts just slow down while offline. Not a lot, only really affects precisely clocked thermal banks

[smoky eagle]

is it possible for my singular gearing unit to switch between xiranite and cuprium?

[outer bramble]

This is very bad then

[shell hinge]

So "power saving" doesn't really work rn.

[pulsar cypress]

Yea.. It working again when me replace the inlet outlet..

[scenic swift]

thats why im just going to fill the warehouse to the limit with components, it will automatically make however much I use after that 🤔

[smoky eagle]

has anyone discovered any other use for Xircon?

[storm garnet]

it works for clogging sewage

[smoky eagle]

😮

Cloggingg

[outer bramble]

my sewage clogging too

[sonic summit]

shiet will this works?

[outer bramble]

and it is not connect through conduit

[smoky eagle]

welp, i tried

[sonic summit]

xircon is to make sc battery only

[outer bramble]

I don't have good feeling about the factory in the future

[pulsar cypress]

Me see it like a poo clogging the toilet water..

[smoky eagle]

i know but sometimes there are undisclosed recipes

[scenic swift]

if you are going to use power savers might want to make the ratio a little extra to compensate for offline loss

[storm garnet]

it's late, but i promised i would check it. yes, it works.... while online lul

[scenic swift]

up to you though

[shell hinge]

Idk, belts are weird

[hushed blaze]

Sad. If refineable or shreddable idk what could even more use than this

[shell hinge]

I just don't bother precisely clocking power because I don't care about excess batteries beyond my outpost capacity

[smoky eagle]

not even shredddable 😭

[outer bramble]

It will jam and crash /jk

[hushed blaze]

So yeah only packaging xircon

[pulsar cypress]

Better have excess energy wasted than finding out factory died when online..

[hushed blaze]

Eh, not a big deal for me tbh

[storm garnet]

doing power management is fine as long as it's not too exact

give a little leeway

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Adjust with a little leeway..

[wispy wren]

hc xiranite battries will require you to put your ops into the shredder

[smoky eagle]

kekw

[outer bramble]

the factory eos after main story quest in the future

[storm garnet]

hc batteries will need a new machine with 8 inputs

[pulsar steeple]

eh... PWM works just fine if you know what you're doing

[smoky eagle]

there was one tweet that said they have to input Ardashir into the Shredding Unit

[pulsar cypress]

*new natural battery type using the beast poo as main material..

[outer bramble]

We will have super awesome replicators to replace the factory

[hushed blaze]

Hell nah.
It doesn't really make sense

[outer bramble]

[pulsar steeple]

do this, works even with SC

[storm garnet]

if that means we can automate poop. i'm in

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. I mean, me prefer let it drop to like 30% at most..
Not to extreme like leaving it till 5-10% left..

[pulsar steeple]

i am NOT dropping it below 60

[pulsar cypress]

We will get stable instead of farm land..

[unique plover]

what the actual fuck

[outer bramble]

I just level all of them to level 60 🫠

[pulsar cypress]

XD

[hushed blaze]

Congrats. Now you have to manually chugging thermal for short while

[unique plover]

im feeding my 2 banks normal wuling battery, why

[storm garnet]

for power management what really matters is the time all banks are on with 100% energy

5 seconds should be ok

[unique plover]

theyare full too

[pulsar steeple]

which battery

[hushed blaze]

LC wuling

[outer bramble]

must be landbreaker messing up the factory

[unique plover]

i havent progressed to the next battery since i cant sell it yet

[pulsar steeple]

rip

[scenic swift]

didnt they say offline factories will be limited to 2 regions? so Valley 4 actually will end of service when the 3rd region comes out

[pulsar steeple]

atleast you'll be able to craft tons of LC battery with 4 Forge of the sky

[outer bramble]

at least better than build new battery than found out that you cannot sell them yet

[storm garnet]

2 regions means the last released region + the one you last visited when logged in

it still can be v4

but wuling would probably be better

[scenic swift]

yeah but we wont need v4 anymore, it can probably have enough stockbills just from trading stocks though

[outer bramble]

better just tick which region we want the factory active

instead of last visit

[storm garnet]

it could be annoying in the future to have to remember to go to wuling if you visited v4

[scenic swift]

because there is nothing to buy in valley 4

[outer bramble]

I imagine still doing delivery in v4 in that time

[hushed blaze]

Just transfer bombs in v4

[storm garnet]

ok, i just realized this thing affects theorical usage data

[smoky eagle]

:O?

[storm garnet]

i have 480 theorical usage of liquid xiranite

btw my courtyard is at 11k already, i'm bleeding

[clear wing]

anyone know how much power one pylon/tower takes up?

[outer bramble]

iirc 5 for pylon

[crystal roost]

is 12/min sc only possible if you disable producing components

[clear wing]

unless you have excess, yeah

[scenic swift]

yeah because it uses 100% of the xiranite and there is no way to make more

extra copium parts can actually be warehouse transferred even though valley 4 cant make them which is kind of wierd and maybe a bug

[clear wing]

that's been fixed unfortunately

[scenic swift]

oh didnt notice lol

[clear wing]

you may want to check your metastorage if you set it to those since u may not be producing anything rn

[scenic swift]

its ok I switched to back to ferium yesterday

[jolly shore]

is that true? I made a couple but didn't see them available. it'd me nice to metastorage some spare copium bottles

[scenic swift]

sorry guess it was fixed

[outer bramble]

Will we still have access to V4 metastorage when new region released in the future?

[jolly shore]

likely, but we still don't have normal transportation from WL

[queen perch]

if I'm really lazy, is it ok if I just set up the 12 SC battery, 6 yazhen A, and also 6 cuprium component and let them fight for resources until I have enough cuprium component

or does that go really badly

[outer bramble]

probably just calculate how much they eat xiranite

[queen perch]

I guess it should be fine as long as it produces enough batteries to power everything, which should be easy

[outer bramble]

1/5 for component and 4/5 for wuling battery

[smoky eagle]

ummm
if i'm making 2 batches of xircon battery, i need 4 producers of liquid xiranite?
doesn't that mean 4 xiranite inputs and it mean that I'll run out

[outer bramble]

0.75 * 60 maybe?

0.75 * 12 sc battery

er, wrong ratio

[queen perch]

you know what as long as it doesn't blow up i'm ok with it not being optimal and letting the algorithm take the wheel

it's only temp until I have enough cuprium comps

ty for attempting the math tho

[jolly shore]

For my own part, once I make a stockpile of SC and Yaz A I plan to temporarily shut down one of my xircon and battery lines and make some copium gear, though I need to look at whether the new stuff is worth anything

[outer bramble]

9/min battery overall

[nova osprey]

you can get 120 xiranite/min

[outer bramble]

I think it will be fine

[paper magnet]

I've been doing the 1 out 2 back in strat for cuprium components and it's worked out fine

Xiranite would be 2 out 1 back in

[smoky eagle]

mmm

[paper magnet]

For both xiranite comp and cuprium comp

Or you can just run your comps for like a day or 2 to max out in the depot then switch back to drugs

[jolly shore]

you need two xiranite forges per xircon setup, and we have access to 4 forges with the current update

[jolly shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw39IypXYw

[outer bramble]

it will run out but it depend on the xiranite distribution

[smoky eagle]

yeah but that means i can't make gear right?

[jolly shore]

not if both are dedicated to battery production. I plan to shut down one battery production later to make gear

[smoky eagle]

ok then 😭

it's 1 or the other

or i make small battery

[dull sapphire]

Does qingbou stockade also have a outpost?

[slender furnace]

How do you guys deal with excessive liquids like sewage or while making the new battery production

[hazy wharf]

is factory rn has a bug?

[outer bramble]

Just connect it to water treatment

[outer bramble]

they don't

[slender furnace]

Ah

[dull sapphire]

Ty

[scenic swift]

6 batteries will use 1 line of sewage

actually it uses 2 but it makes 1 from by product

[frail trail]

was really hoping i could cheat the reactor crucible by making both liquid xiranite and liquid xircon in the same one

[paper magnet]

You can cheat by using a storage tank before the water treatment tbh

[frail trail]

was disappointed

[buoyant vault]

Which is better for, jincao tea or yazhen syringe A in battle? I want to mass produce

[frail trail]

syringe a technically heals you for more but you will die if you get hit in rapid succession

[cobalt oriole]

Nah its less stringe A has no hp % heal

[frail trail]

but for most daily content 12 jincao A per fight is more than enough healing

[cobalt oriole]

The new stringe is a flat heal

[ashen acorn]

im so sick of wuling bruh.

[young stag]

my v4 aic is a mess rn idk why

wish we had sub 10 minutes updates

[gentle sentinel]

Ah yes finally

[ashen acorn]

HOW are you getting that many syringes per min

[young stag]

depleting reserves i guess

[gentle sentinel]

I drop one ValleyIV med factory to stack up

[ashen acorn]

omg

[gentle sentinel]

We never know when the other outpost might come

[wheat forum]

You make more Sandleaves than u actually need.

[young stag]

no shit

[viscid plover]

you get those from petting burdunbeast

[young stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954928564749369367/1467871494712332473/attachment.gif

[ashen acorn]

i usually opt on the side of More plants than less plants since they don't use resources and are self sustaining

[small creek]

@marble yarrow finally..

55 power saved by combining them

[marble yarrow]

peak

[ashen acorn]

ill never understand how this game calculates theoretical water usage

[small creek]

now time to combine it with cuprium component

💀

why do i do this to myself

[viscid plover]

you running 3 water treatment directly that means you only have one sc battery line?

[hushed blaze]

For some reason, the water drains way quicker at high purity

[storm garnet]

do you have fluid supply units somewhere turned off?