aic-factory

[nova osprey]

alluviums?

[marble yarrow]

logistic belts take up so much for facility limit

[somber snow]

how is anyone capping on facility limit anyway

[quartz coral]

I might be autistic cause to me that feels more tiring than spending 3 hours optimizing it into a barely functional mess

[trail mirage]

me... both v4 and wuling

[lusty violet]

im replacing all my belts with bridges/convergers

[nova osprey]

the people who do are typically people who spam bridges

[somber snow]

to remove fluctuations in usage?

[marble yarrow]

my weird ratios in wuling made me near facility limit

coz i use splitters and converges due to that

[lusty violet]

yea, i know it works for v4 production to remove fluctuations, trying it out in wuling

[unreal geode]

anyone have ideas on how i can fill up this space? current setup works but im picky lmfao

[quartz coral]

Something else, give it 5 minutes to see if it works

[lusty violet]

just a weird limit.. where i can remove a belt but not place a bridge

[nova osprey]

what causes fluctuations in usage though? just completely random? for some people it works fine

[trail mirage]

i like empty spaces too much

[nova osprey]

coolio, good luck

[lusty violet]

belts/item control ports have slower offline calculations

[somber snow]

from what ive heard so far,
belts can sometimes lag when u're offline,
thats also why DIGE recommends that you dont use belts if you modulate ur thermals

[digital mirage]

what is the best usage of teh new towers?

[somber snow]

slower computations, now thats interesting

[lusty violet]

citrome [c] is belt-less (1day)

[nova osprey]

oh so fluctuations only occur when offline then?

[trail mirage]

honestly not that useful

[digital mirage]

yeah they dont have the global range

[nova osprey]

i don't think i kept track of that

[digital mirage]

what are the go-to tower combos then?

[tawny ravine]

Same as the other towers ie the tower défense mode and essence farming

[digital mirage]

yeah i mean are these weird tiny range towers even that good

[tawny ravine]

You Can use 4 of them for essence ya cant use 15

[somber snow]

thermals are what matters,
u dont even belt logistics for anything else,
so what if ur usage fluctuates, outpost still empty
and u have enough battery to transfer to wuling, and for the next region too sooner or later

[digital mirage]

i think i see the combo. You can push them back with deluge into mist +fire and keep them locked in there

[tawny ravine]

Déluge feels like a scam

These feel useless

[nova osprey]

i mean outside of the EWT they pretty much are

[digital mirage]

with the marsh gas it actually feels useful in the tower defense but yeah its dog for essence farming

[somber snow]

ngl, having 116 stashes of LC bats is annoying me,
i shouldnt have stocked this much

[digital mirage]

with marsh gas it basically freezes a lane which is nice

[abstract urchin]

how many pipes can be spread from 1 fluid pump for hydro mining to not get minus water yield

[somber snow]

1 pump can fill 3 rigs on high purities,
or 6 rigs on low purities

[abstract urchin]

huh so its based on purities

[tawny ravine]

I did the defense with only fire tower it worked

[somber snow]

hm yes

[nova osprey]

based on ore/min, each pump supplies 60/min ore generation

[trail mirage]

its ether 50 gernade/50 lightning towers or some flamethrowers and rest lightning. oh and 1 posion

[abstract urchin]

i wonder if i should care about the possibilities of increased purity from regional level upgrade later on

if i do 6 for low

[somber snow]

just do 3 rigs per pump, dont take that much energy anyway

[abstract urchin]

or just do safe 3

yeah

[nova osprey]

if you dont mind repiping everything next patch, you can go for the energy optimal route of wiring many different patches

[somber snow]

also, u shud replace all ur rigs with water rigs,
u can save 200 power, roughly

[abstract urchin]

ye thats wat im trying to do rn lmao

[shell hinge]

Only matters if you clock your power according*

[quartz coral]

I have accidentally found a fatal flaw in my syringe production. It has been dealt with and we will see if it ends well.

[trail mirage]

hell nah

[abstract urchin]

such nice things i dont have to see weird ahh pylons

[shell hinge]

If you don't change your power generation, using hydro rigs saves you nothing

[trail mirage]

hydro rigs doesnt use power

i mean it saves a bit but its not worth it

[shell hinge]

Power is not a resource itself. Batteries are the actual resource. If you don't adjust your battery to power conversion, you haven't saved an actual resource by reducing power consumption

[somber snow]

it is worth it,
it just depends on ur preference,

some effort for more energy,
or convenience of ignoring the old rigs,

[shell hinge]

Going from 3000/3000 to 2800/3000 changes nothing about your battery consumption

You have to adjust your battery clocking to get 2800/2800 in order to see the savings

[tawny ravine]

and even then its only wortth it if the extra battery production actually is useful

which it isnt since you buy out the sub pac

[somber snow]

for a rly optimised factory, maybe even with modulators,
that can decrease battery usage,

so it does save batteries,
but, this doesnt apply to casuals

thats about it

[shell hinge]

That's my point. Unless you are making that precise tweak to your power clocking, you gain nothing

[somber snow]

oh yeah, i jsut noticed ur 2nd sentence

[mighty yacht]

you guys think its worth building one giant continuous factory that handles xiranite, xircon, batteries and syringes or just keep them separate?

[quartz coral]

Okay I adjusted it so that I'm only using hc valley batteries to boost profit. Why did it just go down :/

[nova osprey]

did you do the permanent ewt levels?

doesnt look like you did

[quartz coral]

No, but still. It was 32k before. Productivity should have went up with optimizations, idk why it went down.

[floral heron]

it should look like this once you've done the auto

[nova osprey]

that page is not how much you're earning, it's how much the outposts earns

[quartz coral]

I'm producing that much even without it.

[quartz coral]

Ohhhhhh.

[nova osprey]

no the bonus from the EWT is not factored into the base earning efficiency

[quartz coral]

oh ok

[nova osprey]

it's 26880 base * 1.35 bonus, to a total of 36288 bills/hour average, that the outposts earns

[quartz coral]

I was looking at the wrong thing

I'm an idiot

gimme a sec

[floral heron]

also if you have tangtang, she is the operator of choice for that outpost, so potentially extra 20% per sale

[quartz coral]

Yeah I just realized that

20% more prosperity, 20% more bills, 20% more output

[shell hinge]

You don't need tangtang to get everything

[quartz coral]

Yeah wulfgard is fine

[mighty yacht]

isnt it 40%? cause she fills all 3 attributes, and 2 of them are for bills

[shell hinge]

You can use lifeng as well

[mighty yacht]

nvm

im restarted

[floral heron]

oh right, i just swapped them around and it seems the same, my bad

[unreal crater]

anyone know why this keeps happening? my xiranite production line is good enough since the water supply is sufficient but I keep getting -2/-3 on the yield
I saw some peeps getting this same problem too

[quartz coral]

Ok it's still not going up, wtf

[shell hinge]

Remember that the 20% prosperity and 20% trading only apply when you make a trade. You can therefore leave a 20% outpost operator in there most of the time, then switch to prosperity+trade just for the trade before switching back

[quartz coral]

Oh wait, yeah I'm an idiot

Nvm

[unreal crater]

Did you do tower defense?

[shell hinge]

I do this with valley iv to get every bonus without matching characters

[mighty yacht]

did you complete the 3rd auto defense?

[quartz coral]

I guess the only way to actually estimate stockbill earning is calculating based on output

[nova osprey]

are your planters full?

[shell hinge]

Are you missing the defense buff?

You should have 35% total buff

[unreal crater]

Sandleaf, yes. The Yazhen line no

[quartz coral]

I thought this was the profit from actually selling stuff, it's just the output of how much the outpost is generating that we can trade. I'm stupid.

[mighty yacht]

its usually because of the carbon input being off

[nova osprey]

how much yazhen plants are in each? i would put maybe half a stack just to be safe that there aren't any slowdowns

otherwise.. i can't really think of an issue

[quartz coral]

The TD only increases the number of stockbills we can trade with them, not our actual factory value output

[nova osprey]

correct

[unreal crater]

Hmm, lemme stop the carbon production and let the planter fill up

[quartz coral]

What's the selling price of yazhen syringe A? 24?

[nova osprey]

22

[quartz coral]

Then I'm estimating a profit of 32832 stockbills an hour

That's including the 20% operator bonus

[unreal crater]

Also are you guys producing HC Valley Battery in Wuling?

With the spare ferrium ore yield

[quartz coral]

No, I'm transferring them over manually.

[nova osprey]

you're missing something, max profit from trading is 43,545/ hour

[gritty skiff]

Hard

[nova osprey]

no, not enough originium

using it all on SC wuling

[unreal crater]

I'm producing it now, since you can metastorage dense originium powder

[quartz coral]

All I'm calculating is from the 6 sc wuling battery per minute and 6 yazhen syringe a per minute

[gritty skiff]

Specifically the SC production line with 4 grinding unit

[nova osprey]

i see

[unreal crater]

like, there's nothing else that you can metastorage better no?

[nova osprey]

yeah o.o;;

[quartz coral]

Output is so bad you might as well metastorage the batteries directly from valley 4

[unreal crater]

and it's consumption and yield is 1.5/min

[quartz coral]

What else were you considering?

[unreal crater]

It equalizes though

[gritty skiff]

Zircon reveal

[nova osprey]

10.5 SC + 6 yazhen a +2.75 yazhen c

[quartz coral]

I think I could theoretically make some yazhen syringe C on the side with the extra ferrium

Idk, doesn't feel worth the extra effort

[nova osprey]

unused resources are wasted resources

[unreal crater]

Like I said, metatransfer this for the HC Valley batt so no need to manually transfer

[gritty skiff]

Damn ok, I suppose you have 4 production lines of xira yea?

[unreal crater]

Yea, it's 120/min yield

[quartz coral]

Isn't the max 3?

[nova osprey]

wait dense originium has a transfer weight of 1?

[quartz coral]

[gritty skiff]

Increased to 4

[unreal crater]

So you're basically saving up 1.5/min of SC Wuling Battery

[quartz coral]

I thought it was from 2 to 3, that's actually crazy

[quartz coral]

I BEG YOUR PARDON??

[unreal crater]

Yea, make your own HC Valley production line too

[quartz coral]

I actually might, my good sir

[unreal crater]

No need to manually transfer like a pleb

Since you have spare 30/min Ferrium ore

[gritty skiff]

Yea then used 2 lines of production for red Rock components

[quartz coral]

More since I ain't making any more c syringes

[gritty skiff]

Do you have 2 production lines of zircon?

[unreal crater]

Yes, it's 60/min

[unreal crater]

here

[gritty skiff]

Ughh, I guess mine's just worse

[unreal crater]

So now, my SC Wuling battery consumption is 1.5/min
With HC Valley battery also at 1.5/min

The total power is 4.5k, which is enough for zipline + turrets

[nova osprey]

damn that's a lot of power

[quartz coral]

I'm at 2.2/2.4k energy rn. Using two HC valley thermal batteries.

[gritty skiff]

I got 6.6k lol

[nova osprey]

that's an insane amount of power o.o;;

[unreal crater]

Yea, using 3/min of SC Valley battery is really awkward if you don't want to manually transfer HC Valley Batts

[mighty yacht]

why not use the inlets/ outlets?

[gritty skiff]

6/3 going

[ebon plover]

How many Hydro Mining Rigs per Fluid Pump?

[uneven aspen]

im at 4.9k power, cause im leaving all the towers on at the essences

[gritty skiff]

I am for the red Rock part dw

[quartz coral]

Not super crazy about optimization so I might make it to 3.6k, just enough so I can set up ziplines snd towers.

[nova osprey]

a pump supplies 60/min ore generation so 3 high purity or 6 low purity

[uneven aspen]

read the hydrorig's database file

[ebon plover]

3 Hydro Mining Rigs / 1 Fluid pump?

[gritty skiff]

3

[shell hinge]

You can, it's just not better than making yazhen c with the excess ferrium and metatransfering ferrium ore

[quartz coral]

Make sure to remove the towers on tower defense once you're done, they waste energy.

[uneven aspen]

nah

optimal tower placemetns gonna be a pain to remake

i turned them off though

[wintry stump]

can we just put sewage into tanks and then stash the tanks?

[nova osprey]

optimal tower placements change per stage though

[gritty skiff]

Yea it workss

[uneven aspen]

then i can just erase if it does

sometimes it doesnt

[quartz coral]

Level 4 is gonna have different enemy path anyway so might as well store them until next patch.

[uneven aspen]

valley one didn't but science park did

[quartz coral]

Just do up to the highest auto, then remove them.

[uneven aspen]

well idc im sustaining power just fine

[quartz coral]

The idea is you could be selling the batteries instead.

[nova osprey]

honestly

why even connect the EWT turrets to your system, just use one lc v4 battery per turret

[haughty wharf]

I think I found a bug

[uneven aspen]

not when it's just hc valley surplus

surplus from valley that's already sold out

[quartz coral]

Because I don't want to refill them everytime I fight

[uneven aspen]

and im already selling out in wuling too

[nova osprey]

fair

[tawny ravine]

but you only do it once

[quartz coral]

Suffering from success I suppose. Then ig do what you want.

[nova osprey]

you do use battery powered ones for alluviums, if you use turrets for alluvium though yeah?

[nova osprey]

not if you fail

[quartz coral]

Nah, grid them

[shell hinge]

Base powered turret enjoyer

[nova osprey]

okay now that is a waste o.o;;

[quartz coral]

I remove the pylon once I'm done

[tawny ravine]

its a waste to grid alluvium towers but who cares energy isnt an issue

[nova osprey]

why not just put a stack of hc batteries and forget about it for a year

[shell hinge]

Nah, we keep them powered at all times

[quartz coral]

Do turrets not consume energy when not used?

[shell hinge]

I do turn off the protocol stashes

[nova osprey]

correct, but only when using batteries

when they're on grid they will consume power always

[quartz coral]

Higher level batteries give longer duration?

[nova osprey]

yeap

SC wuling battery is enough for like, 100 rounds of an alluvium

[quartz coral]

I might genuinely use SC wuling batteries then

[nova osprey]

per turret

[sudden night]

So my core aic is showing that I have used up all the 512/512 space
Removing sprinklers from the agricultural site gonna give me space there?

[nova osprey]

yeah it's not a bad idea

[uneven aspen]

I afk at essence farms so idk if unpowered turrets will last long enough . . .

battery mine run out

it's abotu duration of the fight?

[nova osprey]

each sc battery supplies 150k power and you use like 1.5k power per clear of an alluvium

[uneven aspen]

or is it per shot?

[quartz coral]

What towers are really good for farming essence? The smoke one?

[nova osprey]

per shot

[sudden night]

Per shot

[tawny bear]

this factory is a mess, but it's my mess

[mighty yacht]

no, the limit is only stuff inside the aic i think

[sudden night]

I was trying to place water pumps but didn't work

[nova osprey]

eletric, nade, sentry are pretty good

new fire one is good for taking out a few enemies too

[sudden night]

So I think it also applies to things outside

[quartz coral]

What about the poison one?

[nova osprey]

not good

[lone pebble]

CAN WE FIt all productions just in AIC ? :))

[quartz coral]

150k and 50 per stack, that's crazy

[sudden night]

Yes

[tawny bear]

if u were mad enough :v

[mighty yacht]

if you're trying to place water pumps on the map and you cant, then it means your protocol cap is maxed, its not part of aic stuff

[nova osprey]

yeap

[uneven aspen]

I have all my xiranite in sub aic, but I have enough space to place 4 forges in my main aic so yes you can

[gritty skiff]

Need more forge increase

[abstract urchin]

I mostly separated it kekw

[sudden night]

That notice

[quartz coral]

What about the laser?

[sudden night]

But I'm following a BP and that person did it

[nova osprey]

laser good a bit too, yeah

[tawny bear]

as long as the extra sandleaf powder isn't being wasted I'm satisfied

[quartz coral]

I think I'll place 8 towers and see how it goes

[obtuse raven]

Just noticed that the grid is not perfectly aligned...

[mighty yacht]

thats whay shows when you try to place a water pump? ive never seen that happen :P

[sudden night]

Yep

[nova osprey]

yes facilities outside of the aic count towards it too

[sudden night]

So if I remove sprinklers from the eco farm
I'll get space?

[nova osprey]

there was a case where someone made a mega factory in the AIC only, and people trying to use the bp ran into the issue

[abstract urchin]

my 1.1 setup is using exactly 12 sanddust lines, so i just need to make 4 sand duper

[nova osprey]

yes you will get space

[tawny bear]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-squidward-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-8230373133338063386 GRYPHLINK

[ivory isle]

is there a way to improve this?

[abstract urchin]

so its really nice yeah, except idk what to use for deliveries later on

[sudden night]

[shell hinge]

Carbon for deliveries

[sudden night]

I did not even think there's a placement limit

[nova osprey]

one moulding unit, two steel into that moulding unit

aye

let me try to find it

[sudden night]

Probably Devs did not think people will be crazy enough to make these kinda abominations

[shell hinge]

768 entities is the limit afaik

[uneven aspen]

thinking about it, im too lazy to shove batteries into 10-15 towers at each essence farm, just pylons for me

[tawny bear]

I just hope u can mirror fluid inputs in the future =3=

[shell hinge]

You can hit it quickly by spamming bridges afaik

[tawny bear]

I miss when my factories were symmetrical,,,

[sudden night]

I'm at 512/512

[shell hinge]

For v4*

I think wuling is lower

[sudden night]

Ah

[quartz coral]

I'm 90% sure that devs will make bridges and splitters not count as placements within the next 3 patches

[left bear]

which plant's most efficient for carbon?

[shell hinge]

Why? A bridge counts as 3 entities rn

[unreal crater]

seems to be really that. fixed now, thanks

[sudden night]

HUH

[quartz coral]

Yeah cause that's annoying

[sudden night]

A small bridge

Counts as

3 entities?

[shell hinge]

Bridge itself is one, but it also splits the belts up generating 2 more

[sudden night]

[mighty yacht]

jincao or yahzen

[quartz coral]

Just make bridges count the same as a belt

It takes the same amount of tiles as a normal bridge

[tawny bear]

unfortunately since yahzen A takes up all my cuprium I can't make components =3=

[abstract urchin]

thats why i make component first kekw

until capped then i switch

[quartz coral]

All in into components until you have 50k, then switch

50k is enough for a lifetime

[tawny bear]

I have a stockpile built up before 1.1

[quartz coral]

At least 5 characters with max everything

[tribal crescent]

power saving

🤓

[gritty skiff]

[ivory isle]

like this?

[gritty skiff]

Madness

[nova osprey]

yes

[ivory isle]

thanks

[tribal crescent]

-5 power

is -5 power

[abstract urchin]

already changed the whole mineral bed using hydro

[nova osprey]

that's -30 power not -5 power

[tribal crescent]

ok well

hyperbole

[nova osprey]

[gritty skiff]

20-30k is enuf tbh

[tribal crescent]

hm

zipline

is 10 power innit

[nova osprey]

5

[quartz coral]

In theory if you want to max gear a character, it's around 15-20k

[gritty skiff]

The cuprium ones?

[quartz coral]

Since it genuinely takes an obscene amount

[quartz coral]

Just gears in general

Because it takes 50 parts for a gear

[abstract urchin]

this is for 1 battery?

[gritty skiff]

Artificing is luck based bro

[quartz coral]

And you could spend over 200 on max artifice

[nova osprey]

yes, per turret

[abstract urchin]

wtf

thats crazy

[nova osprey]

[shell hinge]

I don't know how that would be possible, besides deleting belts from the simulation entirely

[nova osprey]

as a coder.. same lmao

ish

[shell hinge]

I'm shocked belts have any amount of sim at all. I was super surprised to see the ability to take items from belts

[quartz coral]

You could use an exception, change the numerical value of it or something

[shell hinge]

It's not some manually assigned value, it's a property of how the system works

[quartz coral]

Unless the entity counting system is actually integrated into the code

[obtuse raven]

Wait, you cannot set a crucible reactor to produce the same formula x2?

[nova osprey]

correct

[obtuse raven]

[quartz coral]

So it's literally a window into how the code works

[gritty skiff]

Also you could use the crucible as a liquid and item bridge btw

[quartz coral]

As an amateur coder, I would probably use an if exception or something, but that will probably just cause more problems

[obtuse raven]

I was just hoping this would work, sadge

[gritty skiff]

1 treatment is good enuf

[upbeat cave]

for my Originium, here it says theoretical usage 540, but on two of my inputs i used splitter giving 2/3 ore to the factory and 1/3 of it back to depot, making it 40/min within 2 inputs instead of 60/min, and in total i should have 520/min usage instead of 540/min, so in theory my originium should never deplete, is this correct ? sorry idk any way to explain it better

[quartz coral]

What is the purpose of that loop

[uneven aspen]

yup theory assumes all your production units have infinite inputs

so the outputs are at it's max yields/usage

if yield = usage in actual on the left you're fine

[tawny bear]

one of ur subpacs is using 20/min

o wait i didnt read >.>

yea u should be cool

[abstract urchin]

Gawddamn

[tawny bear]

not using relays to power ur weapons smh my head

[quick hearth]

the xircon effluent and water powered mines are giving me hope for liquid energy dense fuels in thermal banks eventually
pls HG

[abstract urchin]

Saving pawa

[quartz coral]

And how will we store them? Bottles again probably.

Because we will need to actually put them in storage to sell them

[obtuse raven]

The idea was to produce xircon effluent -> xircon in the same reactor, one fluid output is inert xircon that I clean up and the other is sewage which I can reeintroduce into the loop

[pulsar steeple]

Holy, i might start doin that

that's enough for like 150 year

[quartz coral]

Something about that is so wrong

I don't think reactor crucibles have enough outputs to make that possible in the first place

Eh, but maybe

Could be a cool thing to add in future AIC research ig

But yeah, no more than one blueprint per unit, at least not simultaneously

[hidden temple]

yeah that doesn't work, inert effluent doesn't count as sewage for the formula
you can use the sewage from the final crucible producing the xircon crystal tho, looping its sewage back into one of the xircon effluent production crucibles

[lone pebble]

yes u can ! 😄

[quartz coral]

Plus even if it did work, it would just switch between the two formulas in alternating inputs, causing it to have half the original output for each blueprint at best.

[jade temple]

why two water treatments tho ?

[quick hearth]

if the next aic research upgrades the skyForge limit again they gotta add more ferrium veins

(or they could just increase the purity of the 6 existing spots again)

[quartz coral]

4 is plenty for me

[ocean trout]

@dark furnace

[obtuse raven]

Yeah, just noticed🫠

[quick hearth]

imagine we have to react xircon + cuprium for the next tier of items after the SC batts

[ocean trout]

Reactor crucible
2.0

[quartz coral]

While interesting, devs will probably need to add some more QoL before making things more complicated than they already are

[jade temple]

I need to ask why do people sometimes use 2 water treatments on 1 line ? i have 1 treatment or one pipe and have no issues anywhere (aka everything works 100% without stopping)

[dark furnace]

looks pretty cool, but will be a pain when you want to move the AIC

[ocean trout]

no need ccuz this is my outpost
im never gonna change this design i hope

[quick hearth]

yea
we prob need alternative crafting recipes that are more direct/efficient (gated behind AIC upgrades or smthing like that)
Each new item to sell drastically increases the space taken on a base ;-;

[quartz coral]

I think it's because that sewage pipe is originally merged from multipke refining units. iirc the max sewage a pipe can flow is 2/sec and the max a water treatment is 1/sec.

[jade temple]

#aic-factory message why he have two treatments tho ?

[dark furnace]

my arse trying to turn 55 ferrium/min into 3 equal portions for yanzhen C

[obtuse raven]

Before noticing that my plan to produce xiricon effluent x2 wasn't possible, I was expecting an output of 60 inert xiricon, which is why I have 2 water treatment on one pipe

[quartz coral]

Now that specifically, I don't know

[jade temple]

oh ok 😄 sorry for posting you specificaly didnt mean anything more than to have an example 😅

[quartz coral]

Even if his plan were to work, the waste would just be 30/min of sewage so it wouldn't have needed 2 either way.

[real crescent]

why 3? dont you want to split it 50/50 parts/bottles?

[quartz coral]

And again, the output would be halved so it would actually be 15/min. And that's IF it works, which it doesn't.

[obtuse raven]

Oh wait, true, idk why I thought it was 30/min

[dark furnace]

I have bottle migrate manually from valley so I want to slow the bottle down

[obtuse raven]

No wait, it is 30/min

[quartz coral]

It would be 15 cause the crucible can't parallel process

[dark furnace]

so I want to give parts more ferrium than bottle in the production

[quartz coral]

It would alternate between both recipes, no?

[obtuse raven]

Nah, you can parallel, I was using a single crucible to produce yazhen solution and liquid xiranite

[quick hearth]

it takes double the water then?

[quartz coral]

In theory, it would switch from producing xircon effluent and producing xircon

[obtuse raven]

Yep

[quartz coral]

So it's not parallel

What's normally 30/min is now 15/min on each process

[obtuse raven]

No, I was replying to the person above you XD

[iron stratus]

im thinking of swapping all my valley iv production to the different factory parts once i get all the essences i need and buy out everything permanent would that be a good idea

[dark furnace]

i guess 12k cup component is enough for now

[obtuse raven]

I produces both at the same time, give me a minute to set up a production line to show you how it works, I erased my old factory to produce the new items

[pulsar steeple]

GIVE ME HALF

[quartz coral]

Nah, I'm good, need to head to bed. It's 3 am here. Btw, I see you're a former world flipper player as well. Game recognise game.

[quick hearth]

world flipper
thats a name i havent heard in a long time

[pulsar steeple]

Dude, my 3k Xiranite comp are laying there unused because i'm going for 2 Cuprium Comp per minute tomorrow

[quartz coral]

Gone too soon, a true gem

[quick hearth]

just like dragalia lost

[quartz coral]

My 48k just lying there

[pulsar steeple]

Sell component to outpost wen?

[quartz coral]

REAL

[opal tapir]

was this not a weekly item 😭

[ocean trout]

More efficient to send ferrium direct than bottle ig?

[quartz coral]

Wouldn't that make valley engraving tickets literally useless?

[quick hearth]

im sitting on 20k that i prob will never use cuz i max/near max artificed on 4 diff characters lmao

[pulsar steeple]

actually, i don't know if i even want to sell Cuprium Component to Qingbo Stockade

[dark furnace]

do you mean mega transfer?

[ocean trout]

Yep

[quick hearth]

u mean cuprium parts
cuprium comps can't be sold iirc

[real crescent]

ofc not

[opal tapir]

true but wouldnt it be better to make it bi weekly or something ive been trying to get essence for thermal cutter for a few weeks now 😭

[pulsar steeple]

i'm referring to this

[quick hearth]

ah

[opal tapir]

i hope they make it bi weekly or once every patch

[quick hearth]

uhh tbh i dont think they will ever add that
xiranite comps cant be sold either

[quartz coral]

Yeah ig, though I could see it as once in a banner thing. Or given in certain events.

[opal tapir]

true

[real crescent]

once a banner def no, as longterm you wont build more than a weapon per banner anyways

[dark furnace]

we can only send 750/h bottles with mega transfer while 1500/h ferrium so it's technically the same. But your backpack stack the same for everything, so you would take half the effort if you mega transfer ferrium, and manual transfer bottle.

[pulsar steeple]

meta*

[dark furnace]

[ocean trout]

ohh
well i havent started cuprium and by the time i start it the old syringe stuff would be stopped

[nova osprey]

mega transfer xD

[dark furnace]

you get surplus 30 ferrium after the new stuffs if you delete yanzhen C

you only need one ferrium for 6/m battery

[ocean trout]

well... tbh why would u need to increase more efficiency?

my old production is still outproduccing the outpost earnings

[dark furnace]

Ngl i don't now, I just leave meta transfer there to have enough ferrium for keeping up the yanzhen C.

it's only producing 3-4/m though

[unkempt estuary]

I cleaned up my farm, does it look good chat?

[ocean trout]

too much electricity
remove it

go back to monke

[unkempt estuary]

no

its xiranite

[jade temple]

You dont have everything in one place so you cant afk it with team work 🙁

[ocean trout]

ill copium ore tmrr

[unkempt estuary]

xiranite is life

[dark furnace]

the middle cluster seems like teammates trap

[sonic summit]

to much power usage go back

[ocean trout]

xiranite is my mountain dew sittin in that 40k pool for a month now

[unkempt estuary]

nah, 4 plots sits perfectly between them

[ocean trout]

wait thats my design

[shadow canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482841240239341718
Check out wuling endgame

[ocean trout]

EikoClown

[shadow canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463800518811058230/1472596236832870647/b3cbae0358f3cc1cc00bb38831b70e1721132494.gif

[unkempt estuary]

actually there is only one design if u try to do this

there is not much room for variation

[willow beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1463923898989936783/1482414454636544000/4amsof4tb1pg1.gif

[dark furnace]

i have my farm 4x5 packed tightly so I can just stand in the middle and wait for my teammates to do the stuffs for me

[ocean trout]

everyone copying me
im a genius

[dark furnace]

this is mine since 1.0, not gonna change it as it works perfectly for me

i changed the plots to amber rice though

[lone pebble]

OO WELL , went crazy enought ! to fit all in AIC :))

[ocean trout]

what is this monstrocity of efficiency

how does the xiranite even escape from there

[lone pebble]

couse of this !

1 gear at 2-3 min / each ! ish

[severe grove]

Why have I just thought about this for manufacturing Xiranite?

[ocean trout]

that isnt effiient tho 💀

[lone pebble]

you know when i want to burn it fast ! i just clear the road that stash it bk !

[ocean trout]

i had this big brain idea too
till u realise planting unit just makes 1 plant

[severe grove]

Yeah and 1 plant makes 2 seeds.

[ocean trout]

i only now realised ur making valley battery in wuling

KekHands~2

[severe grove]

So I made one belt rotate around back to the Planting Unit.

[ocean trout]

but ... thats just chen belt of infinity but more complex

[lone pebble]

wy not , 30 fer not doing nothing :))

[ocean trout]

till it clogs

[ocean trout]

bruh

[ocean trout]

ohhh

[severe grove]

I sent the cropped screenshot my bad.

But yeah I have two of those setups going straight to Forge of the Sky.

[lone pebble]

true i can make serr ! but wy bother : i use meta for DOP

[severe grove]

AND THUS DO THE FACTORY GROWETH.

[obtuse raven]

Gonna need the reactor upgrade to make this more compact

[ocean trout]

mine is just outsoured the space consumin process to outpost for future proofing

[ocean trout]

endfielding shakesphere u are

[severe grove]

I'm trying to fit 4 Forge of the Sky setups inside the main Wuling City AIC place. Now that the limit got increased.

[ocean trout]

for me its now easy
all the dense carbon ill need is made there
8 grinders

[severe grove]

Hmm...

[lone pebble]

just posted a bit up a pic of it

[severe grove]

Imagine if Hypergryph made multi-level floors for AIC factories.

Oh lord.

Factories reaching to space.

Intergalactic factories.

[ocean trout]

nahhh they wont do satisfatory here
best is think of the outposts as the addtional floor

[iron stratus]

we need belt conduits

[dark furnace]

why are you feeding water into xircon?

[ocean trout]

The way aic factory gameplay is designed severely limits its possibilities imo

[iron stratus]

they could change it up in each region

[ocean trout]

The square box limiting our sandbox abilities and because of that mechanics cant go beyond the surface level

[shrewd knoll]

they need to allow belts outside of AIC so we can do some mountain top manufacturing

i guess you can kinda do it with liquids

[ocean trout]

Dk considerin what they said with a max of only 2 factories can run once the 3rd region comes and the game is purely online unlike the rest of factory builders

Its a hars limit

[severe grove]

I can already picture the entire map being covered in belts.

[ocean trout]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-gif-23142497

[shrewd knoll]

belts cost protocol capacity, unlike pipes so it will only get so far

[ocean trout]

What when

[shrewd knoll]

since they count as facilities

[obtuse raven]

Ehhh... Yeah, idk why I did that

[severe grove]

We'll see where it goes with other regions beyond Wuling.

[outer basin]

Can I make 2 Liquid Xiranite in 1 Reactor Crucible?

[ocean trout]

U need 2

[outer basin]

Well shit. Now I have to rebuild my whole damn factory.

[dense vapor]

I am having troubles with automomous production of sandleaf and carbon in Wuling.
Regional transport is ineffective and the 4 celestial forges drain my stock too quickly.

[ocean trout]

@dense vapor

[lone pebble]

what are u ussing to make carbon ?

[dense vapor]

Buckflower/Sandleaf

[lone pebble]

use Yazhen ! -> refine -> 2 shreders

[ocean trout]

Or Jincao

[dense vapor]

Refiner unit does not show Yazhen/Jincao in recipes

[ocean trout]

What

[lone pebble]

then wy are u asking for help ? if u dont wana listen ?:P

[lusty violet]

it's a hidden recipe, put one in and it'll show

[ocean trout]

1 jincao gives 2 carbon

Instead of 1

[dense vapor]

I am just saying that I did not know it was an option.
No need to get salty

[dense vapor]

Now this...is useful intel.

[lone pebble]

im not :P im just tired :))

[lone pebble]

it is , want blue for all 4 ?

[dense vapor]

That would give me some numbers, yes...

[lone pebble]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO012I4uI6Ui389eIOo. Copy it and use it in the game. Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01A5i45I6a2E79ieO. Copy it and use it in the game. Hope u are America/Europe 😄 and check the blue print were to put each plant ! ps ! need 4 pumps ! 2 each entrace (u have 2 in P1)

or use conduit same way ! 2 pomp`s to 1 conduit ! and the rest u will figure out , youre smart boy

[shrewd knoll]

Less pipes, more belts look so much better than the old build

[slow depot]

Hi
Is there any good xircon blueprint out there?
I've tried a few today and everyone of them just... stop working at some point

[upper fiber]

maybe water issue

[shrewd knoll]

you literally just posted a message after someone posted a xircon screenshot right up there on this same screen

[uneven aspen]

is that enough water?

[shrewd knoll]

why is it not?

[upper fiber]

i doubt everyone's bp has issue, likely it is issue on your side

[mighty yacht]

i tried doing the thing you were talking about earlier, with each sewage line sustaining each other, i couldnt get it to work :P

[shrewd knoll]

2 pumps worth of water coming from that conduit

[uneven aspen]

i thought liquid xiranite wants 2 water,~~ reactor~~refiner want 1 water

but ill log in to see the formula

for liquid xiranite

[slate plume]

anybody got full blueprint for 6 bats / cuprium component / xyranite component / syringe ? wuling

[uneven aspen]

im might be using 1 extra water if only 1 conduit is needed 😔

[shrewd knoll]

they wont sustain each other, you have to fuel one of them at least

then the output from the first one can sustain the second one

[obtuse raven]

You need at least one external input

[mighty yacht]

breh, i didnt hear u talk about that lmao

[upper fiber]

HG steals my plant

[swift token]

alr, finnaly done with wuling factory

[shrewd knoll]

but im saying, you provide 60 sewage to the first one, then the output of second will sustain the second entire set

[mighty yacht]

liq only needs 1:1

[uneven aspen]

i mean xircon wants 2 liquid xiranite so 2 waters

[quaint rain]

is this normal? i dont think the pipe should work like that

[uneven aspen]

but like i said will log on and double check

hmm 2 seconds so it wants .5 water per second

[mighty yacht]

one pump can comfortable supply 2 reactors so 1 is enough if i recall

[shrewd knoll]

thats endfield for you

totally normal

[viral wharf]

No that's pretty odd. Should be on the same height

[lone pebble]

few message`s up , u can find xyranite

[uneven aspen]

so 1 conduit inlet conneted to 2 fluid pumps of water can feed 2 reactors of liquid xiranite + cuprium refiner

[quaint rain]

no idea how i manage to get that if i can replecate that bug i think the factory can be more efficient

[lone pebble]

1 pump !

[mighty yacht]

1 pump can supply 4 buildings? i should try that..

[serene geyser]

[lone pebble]

2 max ! pipe limitation 2/s

[shrewd knoll]

one pipe can, not one pump

still takes 2 pumps converged into one pipe

[mighty yacht]

danm, i got excited for a sec

[inner creek]

That feeling when you're so optimized that now you feel like the Escobar meme

[inner creek]

Look, if you had one pipe or one pump
To seize every water you ever wanted in one moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?
Yo
🎵

[solemn jacinth]

ok

now definitely

it wont go wrong

surely

[severe grove]

The spider web. Proof of a growing factory.

[lone pebble]

1 gear every 5 min 🙂 better 😄 good night all 😄

[uncut niche]

can a water pump fully supply 3 outlets at the same time?

[solemn jacinth]

a pump outputs 1/s

usually a full factory intake needs 0.5/s

so a single pump can feed 2 machines

or 3 hydro miners

[uncut niche]

oop

its seemed fine so far...

[swift token]

i need to ask, whats the point of producing valley battery in wuling? its just seem less effective

[lone pebble]

1P-1pi-2mac / 2P-1pi-4mac

[uncut niche]

huh

[lone pebble]

wy not is 30 ferrium is spared! serr to much energy wasted for it

[lone pebble]

P-Pump / pi-pipe / mac-machine/facillityes

[swift token]

its not about ferruim then, but originium

you need 480/min for 12 wuling batteries

[trail vine]

can a reactor crucible execute multiple recipes simultaneously, or do I need a separate reactor for each step in the chain?

[shrewd knoll]

Just using stonks as a wallet now, no reason to ever sell them

[lone pebble]

all 480 ori is on W bat`s ! ussing meta for Dense !

[earnest steeple]

yes, but the recipes have to be compatible and there has to be enough space.

[swift token]

wdym "using meta for dense"?

[swift token]

im assuming you over using your oroginium currently? i mean higher usage than yeld

[lone pebble]

nope

[crimson inlet]

battery

[mighty yacht]

i dont remember who brought this up earlier, but now im infuriated because its the only thing i notice now

[lone pebble]

havent pay the bill :))

[swift token]

i still dont get it, unless you manually transfer items from valley to wuling?

[lone pebble]

except HC bat i`m transferring nothing from V4

[lone pebble]

and meta will get cloged at some point !

[swift token]

ohhh, now it makes sense with that

so thats like transferring 3k originium

[lone pebble]

if u wana put it that way , yes

[swift token]

i was just confused earlier on how you produce them with keeping 12/min wuling batt

but yeah, since it still require manually transfering from valley to wuling i will keep mine with 100% auto

[timber phoenix]

I fucking hate how everything looks

Let me swap in and output of pipes

[swift token]

looks like that for me

[lone pebble]

i can put 1 bat from W ! but 1 manual transfer over 1 week , dosent seems bad

[shrewd knoll]

just stack the pipes if you dont want to deal with it

since 2 of crucible sets will produce the same thing

u can just pipe their contents into each other

[timber phoenix]

You mean convergers?

[shrewd knoll]

at least for the xiranite water, u can do this

the effuent has too many liquid types to do it

straight water into the next one with the liquid xiranite

[timber phoenix]

Oh you move xira water throught the other machine?

[shrewd knoll]

yea

[timber phoenix]

Oh thats nice

[shrewd knoll]

to reduce pipe

[lone pebble]

ya but is 33*9

[timber phoenix]

Wait you can converge the 2 into the last crucible?

[shrewd knoll]

you can converge pretty much all pipes if you wanted to for a single build worth of facilities

[timber phoenix]

I thought I saw mine clogging

[shell jewel]

IF you make your Yazhen A line next to your Xircon line, you can take the sewage from one of the Cupium refiners over to your Xircon line instead of needing 4 Water treatment units as well.

[timber phoenix]

I did this before

[shrewd knoll]

yea and thats fine

should work just fine

[timber phoenix]

I am so confused

[lone pebble]

pipe can carry 2/s , u have 1 exit with 1/s ! u converge 2 pipe out`s (from reactors) to 1 input in 1 reactor !

[shrewd knoll]

you can converge all 4 if you are doing 12 SC battery

[timber phoenix]

Does this pipe do 2x?

[shrewd knoll]

yea its actually still only half capacity

they produce 0.5s

and its moving 1 per second, with 2 per second capacity

[timber phoenix]

The machine can pump out 2s?

[shrewd knoll]

it can do 2 more

you can stack 4

and it would still work

[glossy wolf]

If I want to be able to make gear components, should I just stick to x2 xirinite for new batteries and x1 for old batteries?

[timber phoenix]

Is it the same with conduits?

[shrewd knoll]

yea

[timber phoenix]

If I put 2 pumps on 1 conduit

[shrewd knoll]

they have the same capacity

[timber phoenix]

Can I do 4 crucibles

[shell jewel]

You can have 4 forges

[shrewd knoll]

yes you can

4 crucibles into one pipe

[timber phoenix]

Wtf that changes a lot

[shell jewel]

2 lines for new battery, 1 line for old battery, 1 line for components

[glossy wolf]

Yeah I have the 4th going to gear components atm

[solid python]

I have 1/24 Xiranite going into the new component

[glossy wolf]

Trying to figure out a way to produce enough copium parts to make gear components and syringes without either having a deficit or overcapping the depot. I've tried a few things and I can't find a balance that doesn't require manual intervention every few days.

Wouldn't be an issue if I didn't need to maintain sewage production

[obtuse raven]

Man, I hate that to make the new meds at 100% efficiency I need to use all the cuprite I extract

[solid python]

Sewage can be split/converged like belts, so you can treat the excess sewage.

[shell jewel]

metastorage transfer Cupium parts while all 120 of your actual Cupium goes to Yazhen A. Every hour you get 750 parts, 10 parts per Component for 75/hr on components

[shrewd knoll]

they patched it

you cant transfer it anymore

it doesnt exist in valley 4

[shell jewel]

Oh, pain, I haven't checked it in a few hours so I thought it was still going lmao.

[severe grove]

Finally got all 4 Forge of the Sky running efficiently.

[glossy wolf]

My worry is the opposite. If my copium parts cap out in the depot the sewage production will slow. Concerned I won't have enough to keep the battery production at 100%.

[lone pebble]

u cant cap , if serringe at full out 6/m

[solid python]

If you're selling your syringes, it shouldn't be an issue. You can also make bottles pass through a protocol stash if you're worried about capping.

[glossy wolf]

yeah I could try that, thanks

[shell jewel]

With current Xiranite, you can run your AIC on a single LC line and still earn batteries, letting your SC and Yazhen A go straight to wuling bills

[thin hearth]

I’m quite proud of this

[severe grove]

My dark humored mind saw something else.

[timber phoenix]

Can you put more than 2 pumps in the south pool

in AIC

[lone pebble]

on what the bloody hell u are ussing 5.5k power , full ziped+ fact i use around 3.36

[lone pebble]

u can have as amny pump as you want

[shell jewel]

2 isn't enough and I'm not worried about that excess

[timber phoenix]

In the little pool to the south?

[lone pebble]

? if is unllimited as many as u can put around it !

[timber phoenix]

Can you put more than 2 around it?

[lone pebble]

send a pic with the "pool" u want !

[timber phoenix]

The one south of the main aic

[shrewd knoll]

the waterfall area?

cuz there is a bunch of standing water like on the path as well

[shrewd knoll]

or just siphon it from the other side of the canal or in town

[shell jewel]

which pool is that??

[lone pebble]

wy put there ?

[timber phoenix]

Closer to where I am working

[shell jewel]

I was able to fit 3

[lone pebble]

?? if u are ussing conduit !! it has 200m ! nvm ! no point in it !and to answer youre question ! as manny as u can place

[timber phoenix]

If I am changing things I'd have to walk 200m every time

Its not that big of a deal just a question if there fit more

[shrewd knoll]

thats why you put the outlet near the border and then into another inlet

so you have easy access

if you ever move them

[lone pebble]

i dont think your ever need more in the AIC ! this patch at less

[shrewd knoll]

thats only 8, you will probably need more

later on

using the other side of the river

[shell jewel]

I have 13 going right now lmao.

[lone pebble]

waste of energy !

[timber phoenix]

Okay but why does it matter where I pump?

I'll do that Astraea

[lone pebble]

it dosent ! it`s just not logical , wy would you wanted there ! were u are limmited in space , and by ussing conduits its faster and easyer , without needing to move the pipes around like in 1.0

[timber phoenix]

Because I might want to move the conduit around for aesthetic reasons

[shell jewel]

Not a waste of energy, most of them need it to save on space where the water lines couldn't get otherwise.

While a few are purely for making the place look neat/clean

[lone pebble]

you do know that u can bring the pipes over the depo`s !?

[shell jewel]

I actually did not lmao

[serene geyser]

btw pipe fits up to 2 pumps of water, could merge 2 pumps into 1 pipe

[shrewd knoll]

each conduit can also support 2 pump worth of water

dont have to put a 1:1 like that

but in this case, it might be for aesthetics i guess

[shell jewel]

those aren't 1:1:

each output is feeding 2

[shrewd knoll]

the water to conduit ratio

is 1:1

each of them straight into a conduit

[shell jewel]

oh

[iron stratus]

what resource makes hc battery production limited to 18/m

[serene geyser]

pump makes 1water/s, pipe/conduit limit is 2water/s

[lone pebble]

if youre asking about v4 , originium !

[shell jewel]

yeah, this was purely for looks, I hate that the pylons are 2 spaces wide but the conduits are 3 so it looks off center

[lofty hedge]

hope the splits like this wont be an issue

😨

[lone pebble]

they breake at some point :))

[lofty hedge]

ok

im splitt t hem into 2

[trail mirage]

[lone pebble]

how can u have 488??

[iron stratus]

do you only need 30 sandleaf per minute into a shredding unit for a single hc battery line

or am i stupid

[trail mirage]

i think more

idk

[iron stratus]

because you only need 90 sandleaf powder per minute

and 1 sandleaf gives 3 powder

so like

[lone pebble]

use 3 V4 bat and u will have enought

[trail mirage]

well you can never have enough sandleafs

[lofty hedge]

who needs pipe bridges right

[lusty violet]

hc v4? isn't it 150 powder/min for the 5 grinders?

[lone pebble]

or lose a def tower !

[thin hearth]

You need 50

[trail mirage]

im using batteries

[iron stratus]

why 50

[thin hearth]

30 for the 3 orig grinders and 20 for the 2 Ferrium grinders

[spice pier]

holy fuck dude this pipe management system was so atrocitious always having to exit top mode to connect them evertime i move
6/m batteries is good enough im never doing this shit again

[trail mirage]

you need 12/m

its not that bad once you understand it

[spice pier]

i dont got enough originium

[trail mirage]

go get more

[iron stratus]

oh yeah i need 5 grinding units

i was doing the math for one

wait so it's like 450 sandleaf powder per minute

[trail mirage]

pipes arent that hard right?

[shrewd knoll]

you might be overthinking the pipes

it looks like a catastrophy

just keep it simple

[lusty violet]

50 sandleaf/min, 150 powder/min

[lone pebble]

60 sandleaf/m

[spice pier]

whats the max?? are there like some hidden in qingbou

[trail mirage]

480 you prob just need more regional levels

[lone pebble]

480 / at regional dev 8

[spice pier]

THATS actually looks so good what the hell

[iron stratus]

im cooked

[spice pier]

i think i just lost the plot in the sewage department that

[iron stratus]

can i make diagrams in notepad

[lone pebble]

with that many bridges and cross , you`l get caped fast in fac limit !

[lofty hedge]

what..

[shrewd knoll]

pipes dont count as facilities for some reason, thats why u can do crazy stuff in wuling in town with it

[trail mirage]

just put all the sewage into one pipe, and water treat the one made from xircon to keep it simple

[iron stratus]

has anyone made a better item production chain database

[shell jewel]

Pipes are fun

[trail mirage]

i mean yea but i save space

[iron stratus]

hypergryph's is terrible

[spice pier]

what are you guys selling btw? im still doing old batteries

[trail mirage]

new batteries...

why is awy there

[lone pebble]

for a 6/m bat , u need 2 sandleafs 60/m , that need 2 plants (2seeding`s 4 planting units ) do it 3 times and youre set / just for batt ! not counting BuckA

[spice pier]

is it a level unlock

[trail mirage]

like we dont got wult?

wulf

[iron stratus]

level 3

[sacred wharf]

ELI5 Does the Wuling fluid Planting unit produce more plants with less buildings? Yes, the output is 2 plants instead of one, but the seed picking unit only produces one seed, so don't I need more of those then? Idk I can't wrap my head around this maybe im cooked

[trail mirage]

yes and more carbon :D

[iron stratus]

one seeding unit only makes 1 seed, but you dont need a seed line out so it can sustain the planting unit, and the planting unit making 2 plants means one line stays in the system and one goes out

[sacred wharf]

Yes but why

[trail mirage]

use wulfguard when recharging and awy when selling

wait

nvm hes capped out

[lone pebble]

this @Sera

[shut rover]

Didn't even knew cuprium would be such a hassle

[trail mirage]

its not tho

[shrewd knoll]

it's not, its just energy intensive to process it

[shut rover]

Why does the inlet only go 1 water a second

[obtuse raven]

Here we have the easy option of just dumping the residual products into a machine, but those of us who experienced the true horror of needing a full 100% efficient cycle to prevent clogging in other automation games, ejem, alumina processing, ejem, this is a walk in the park

[trail mirage]

its 2??

[shut rover]

So many pipes to go through

[serene geyser]

you fed it with only 1 pump ig

[trail mirage]

wym 1

[shut rover]

If it was two unit a second i would be able to at least powered two rig with a splitter

[trail mirage]

you can tho....

[serene geyser]

[trail mirage]

[shell jewel]

for me so it's mostly that 1 thing backing up can back up other things with cuprium. capped on batteries? Now you gotta swap off your sewage line or your Yazhen A gets cut off. Capped on Yazhen A? No cuprium is getting refined so no sewage for your Xircon line.

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-heavy-tf2-heavy-team-fortress-2-heavy-team-fortress-two-thinking-gif-13167291159341927470

[lone pebble]

s-pac is freeee FILL IT WITH STORAGE :))

[trail mirage]

you can treat the water ykyk'

[shell jewel]

"Now you gotta swap off your sewage line or your Yazhen A gets cut off."

[spice pier]

is talos pioneer the best place to get blueprints?

[trail mirage]

its not that big of a deal

[shut rover]

Its getting depleted faster than it can keep up with two rigs on my end

[trail mirage]

you just didnt account for that while building your factory

[trail mirage]

works fine for me

[shell jewel]

I mean, I can delete part of the line and add a water treatment in that area, it's more so the fact that I have to do that instead of just letting one line keep going because another line got capped

[obtuse raven]

So you need 2 SC battery factories (using 3 of 12 batteries per minute to produce energy) and a new med factory to fully cover the demand

[serene geyser]

1 pump feeds up to 3 high purity rigs

[trail mirage]

or you can make the water treatment somewhere else and just connect the pipe when you wanna switch

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-steam-soldier-confused-count-gif-16049918

I'll test something later

[trail mirage]

time to rebuild ;DD

[lone pebble]

U CAN PUT IT HERE , WITH A SPLITER

[serene geyser]

1.5 batteries is enough energy though but generally yes

[shell jewel]

still have room for that, but that's going in and having to manually swap things because things get capped, instead of like with Valley 4 where things can get capped without causing other issues.

[trail mirage]

its hard to cap on the new items

[lone pebble]

have no ideea how u can possibly cap it , but ! beats me 😉

[shut rover]

If i could, i would set up an overflow line

But i dont know how lines work

[unique current]

Guys im losing my mind with the Xiranite farm , 4 forge of the sky and the output is 30/min...

[shell jewel]

And right now I can currently sell none of this because the outpost doesn't have stock bills

[lone pebble]

but no manual needed, u can split , and the 2/s will go 1/s couse of use ! and youl be fine

[trail mirage]

im impressed on how you achived that

[shut rover]

Check for snoozing machine

[trail mirage]

you should still be fine for at least 2 weeks, and you can always make a ton of stashes

[obtuse raven]

Check if you are lacking water or if the carbon input is insufficient in the forge

[lone pebble]

plant/pipe/road ! something is wrong , ot the W input is not enought

[trail mirage]

ew v4 plants

[unique current]

Ig the carbon is the problem but all the build use just 1 Refining Unit for Carbon

[trail mirage]

how many pumps did we use

[lone pebble]

oo boy ! use Yazhen for carbon !

[shut rover]

You should use yazhen for two carbon for one shredder

[unique current]

Why, what changes

[jolly shore]

make 4 yahzen and 3 sandleaf facilities and call me in the morning

[trail mirage]

ah i see bec your missing a planter for your plant farms

[unique current]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-mr-krabs-gif-22711198

[shell jewel]

I'm sitting as optimized as I possibly can right now. I'll be capped on batteries in no time

[trail mirage]

you barely outproduce the outpost

[obtuse raven]

Well, I will leave it at a battery factory and a 50% efficiency med factory for today and build the rest tomorrow or the day after tomorrow to stock up on cuprite parts and xiranite for contruction

[trail mirage]

and you might need some compoents at some point

[shell jewel]

Before update I was at capped small batteries while just selling Yazhen C and the batteries..

[unique current]

No way... that's why they use the Water System. I was thinking "nah hell nah let me use just normal plants, it doesn't change anything"

Didn't notice it gives 2 carbons T_T

[trail mirage]

still doable with nomral plants

[lone pebble]

AND W8 TILL U GET TO THIS :))

[trail mirage]

this was my xianite farm when i used v4 plants too

clean but i had to scratch it

[unique current]

Are u farming batteries too?

[shell jewel]

Yazhen/Jincao for carbon is great.

[trail mirage]

i copied this from someone, 35x39 but we got 4 forges here

[obtuse raven]

I just prefer to place all my farms in the outpost factories💀

Easier to manage

[unique current]

Can someone send me a Xiranite Farm so i can copy the bp?

https://tenor.com/view/blue-emoji-blue-blush-blushing-flustered-gif-1589176402353352132

[heady nymph]

Anyone know of a way to test out AIC builds without completely scrapping what they have? Is there maybe a website or something we can "theory craft" with?

[trail mirage]

i would but like, theres too much space leftover if you only build 4 forges, there was a bp for 4 forges and a sc bat, but that made it akward for what i had in mind

[lone pebble]

u EU ?

[unique current]

Ye

[trail mirage]

this ones greathttps://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1481528724955463722

[unique cloud]

How many hydro rigs can a fluid pump support at once?

[trail mirage]

3

[unique cloud]

Thanks

[trail mirage]

at least

[obtuse raven]

It kinda depends on the purity of the nodes, since it change the extraction time of the drill

[iron stratus]

what's the most compact 6/min hc battery we've seen

[lone pebble]

the one i have send you before

[trail mirage]

uh i mean there was no reason to make it super compact

[iron stratus]

you cropped it too much

[timber phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1481743045543198741/image.png?ex=69b860bf&is=69b70f3f&hm=8d4dc7472df9f42abcfb6663f43757fe955cb688f61af4e09a523c888f29f50c&

Really like my 2 forge setup

[lone pebble]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO014o5IU9o463U5E71A. Copy it and use it in the game. delete the PWM if u are not ussing it

[shell jewel]

39x27 but doesn't include the planters, I have those elsewhere.

[lone pebble]

39*34 includes all 🙂 and only 2 conduits tide up at 4 pumps

[shell jewel]

yeah, mine has a bit of dead space next to the depots

[trail mirage]

where

[lone pebble]

HERE 🙂

[lone pebble]

or at the link u send few moment ago !

[trail mirage]

oh ye

.gyatt2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/635439835364196353/1354538951670497491/caption.gif?ex=6971d2f4&is=69708174&hm=d754eecdcead1975cf086d97ba7f33f6aad733bee931937681df051ed8c5d37c&=&width=487&height=593

[tribal crescent]

who are you to dictate what i do

[lone pebble]

NEVER

[jolly shore]

Why do people insist on cobining all their facilities into eachother when you can just make parts and connect them to depots? It's not like we have no space and making the facilities modular lets you delete and replace them as needed for side projects without taking apart your whole facility

[shell jewel]

this is what I've got so far, MORE than enough space for doing other stuff if I need to as well

[trail mirage]

so little space :(

[unique current]

Now it's working perfecly, thanks guys

[trail mirage]

non minmax mindeset

[shell jewel]

still an 18x44 spot there

and it produces everything except spare parts for the new components

[trail mirage]

use these areaa

[patent salmon]

Not optimal but it is as symmetrical as I could do it, 12 Batteries and 6 Syringes

[trail mirage]

i need that zip

[obtuse raven]

There may be some people who doesn't want to start making blueprints of final pipelines when we still don't know how the pipeline of the end products of Wuling will look like

(Also I quite enjoy optimizing more and more my factory layout)

[gloomy crown]

Anyone have a beginner-friendly general factory blueprint that avoids needing the first area upgrade and bus upgrade? :") Or is that not possible? Its for Valley IV

[trail mirage]

search up beginner in #1461542035617091681

[paper magnet]

Muh 5 energy per depot

/hj

[gloomy crown]

you mean this one? https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482829468270854215

[paper magnet]

Plus you assume this channel doesn't enjoy taking their factory apart for 1/min extra efficiency

[trail mirage]

i would for an extra 3x3 more effiency

[paper magnet]

I would reorganize my whole factory to use 1 less pylon

[trail mirage]

these two area are tiggering me so hard

i dont know how to use em

[crimson inlet]

Me, in wuling:

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-money-vince-mcmahon-money-wwe-capitalism-gif-23623669

[mint pagoda]

So how many hydro mining rigs can be ran off a single pump

[trail mirage]

3

[solid python]

3 high purity

[high orbit]

hello im into my 7th day in game, just got to wuling, what factory or base do i start off with? do i farm for xiranite first? i cant put much machines because of lacking power

[solid python]

Yazhen Plant farm into refinery for Carbon into Xiranite

Burn Originium to start power

[foggy pasture]

What's the max production for Wuling atm?

[high orbit]

thanks a lot

[tepid tapir]

How do you guys get to wuling so fast

Like i cant even get enough resources to make money for the capsule b

[solid python]

1.1 max is 12/min SC battery, 6/min Syringe A, and some amount of HC battery by meta transfering Dense Originium Powder

[high orbit]

i skipped the stories just so to unlock the zones already

[toxic forge]

pretty

[solid python]

Slow and stredy

[thin hearth]

I just made some bullshit 😂😂

[trail mirage]

story wasnt even that long 🥀

[trail mirage]

its alright just scale it up 5x

[unique cloud]

You can just bring over batteries from IV to get started.

[thin hearth]

It’s just for batteries though

[trail mirage]

full on industry mode

[solid python]

Or this if you actually had a Valley IV farm going before you got to Wuling

[iron stratus]

please let us mass produce the percentage based heal tacticals in 2.0

[thin hearth]

Like instead of using two SC Wuling batteries I can just use the remaining Ferrium to make one HC valley battery every 20 seconds instead

[toxic forge]

i wonder what the future holds. how could they build up the factory complexity further beyond liquids?

[unique cloud]

Gasses?

[trail mirage]

or you can just bring 20k batterys over from v4

[solid python]

Steam?

[trail mirage]

nuclear?

[toxic forge]

how would gas be different than liquid functionally though

[mighty yacht]

I reworkd my xircon line to use only one inlet powered by 2 pumps, and i was able to save 5 tiles of height. what do u guys think?

[solid python]

Gas can explode

[thin hearth]

I’d need to do that every so often

like, every 10 days or so

I’d rather not do that