aic-factory

[brittle vale]

Won't 4 forges take up all space of sub pac?

[wispy grove]

if this number goes down, that only means one thing: this thing is the cause of all clogging

[storm junco]

Can make it portable with inlet now

[keen river]

they take about 4/5 of it

[brittle vale]

I squeezed two of them in there during 1.0 but for 4 of them I moved everything to main area

i guess I was too busy with making easy to copy design, not space efficient one

[storm junco]

The inlet really help reducing pipe

[brittle vale]

Yep, that's amazing

[storm junco]

But 5 crucible is shieet

[brittle vale]

People use new plants, are they really twice efficient in terms of giving carbon or something?

[keen river]

they announced new outpost for 1.2

[tawny ravine]

yes

[keen river]

they are, yeah

also only need one planting unit

[storm junco]

More copium

[outer bramble]

My sub-pac

[tawny ravine]

it just saves space tho

since plants are infinite

[keen river]

yeah

but its quite an improvement, you cut like 5 largest buildings

[brittle vale]

Interesting, I haven't seen it in recipies in game for some reason and used sandleafs

[pulsar steeple]

It has some use

[keen river]

this gives you two plants instead of one, so you dont need second planting unit

[storm junco]

Can you dump sewage water in it?

[keen river]

and then this is twice as efficient

[pulsar steeple]

no

[brittle vale]

Guess I should rebuild it all again

[storm junco]

I see

[outer bramble]

Can we stand on sewage?

[twilit ferry]

wait

[brittle vale]

Very inetersting, I was checking it back then and haven't seen 2 as output. Thanks.

[keen river]

nah, in old plants, you get 1 seed -> 1 plant and then 1 plant -> 2 seeds

[twilit ferry]

you can store sewage

[tawny ravine]

yeah I missread it

[keen river]

with water ones you get 1 seed -> 2 plants and 1 plant -> 1 seed

[twilit ferry]

hmmm

[keen river]

unfortunately the water inlet is only on one side so it messes up symmetry 😔

[storm junco]

Yes xyranite liquid conduit

[keen river]

cant have nice things

[storm junco]

200 m

[atomic tulip]

guys why does my crucible does not send in my water treatment unit

[storm junco]

Bluetooth water

[pulsar steeple]

It depends really having only 2 pair means the yield are reduced in half as one lane has to return to the seed picker and one to the Shredder/Refining unit, 3 Pair is better if you need efficiency, if not so much then 2 pair is enough

[twilit ferry]

how many conduits can you link?

is it 1:1?

[brittle vale]

One goes to one, yeah

[storm junco]

You can use conduit to sent water?

[keen river]

nah, the ratio is just different for water plants, and you are using the plant as output

[storm junco]

To water treatment?

[atomic tulip]

wdym ?

[keen river]

have you set the output in the gui?

[atomic tulip]

https://i.imgur.com/LQA8oyi.jpeg

[scarlet cipher]

If I'm building 2 full big batteries, and try to add Xirinate Gear (with a cap of 3k built), will it run my base out of power if I just leave it?

[keen river]

isnt it just clogged then/

[storm junco]

I was just thinking how many splitter can one inlet hold

[keen river]

this side?

[storm junco]

From one pump

[atomic tulip]

yeah

but its cloged bc of that xD

[lusty violet]

think u want to swap the two? you're passing the inert stuff through to the next crucible, but u want to water treat the inert

[atomic tulip]

yeah the empty one

[hoary crag]

you have the output switched up

[keen river]

the orange output goes to the crucible, yellow goes to treatment plant

maybe you have it switched up?

[hoary crag]

inert should be on yellow, which leads to the treatment

[atomic tulip]

omg

[prime pendant]

Nooooo
The green one with 50 send it to water treatment (yellow)
The other one should be (orange)

[atomic tulip]

im stupid

[storm junco]

5 crucible still big

[deft ice]

Is there any efficient loss if you have one shredder feed two grinders?

[keen river]

unfortunately, active and inert xiranite water has very similar pipe color 🙁

[atomic tulip]

omg thanks everyone im crying rn

[hoary crag]

I tried reducing it to 4, ended up spending hours just for nothing

[prime pendant]

Depends on the shredder outcome
What you shredding

[storm junco]

Hmm

You cannot pipe two xyranite liquid?

[prime pendant]

Lmao no worries, happens

[deft ice]

Shredding both buck and Sand flower for dense org

[twilit ferry]

sorry .. cant get enough of this

[hoary crag]

that was my first attempt at making the sc wuling battery line, unfortunately having enough input for double xiranite liquid doesn't make it produce the liquid twice faster

crucibles apparently work 2s per recipe max

[prime pendant]

Sand flower shredded makes 3
Therefore you can run 3 lines from the shredder simultaneously
Buck i forgot how much it makes tbh

[hoary crag]

then tried combining one xiranite crucible with the xircon crucible

[storm junco]

1:1?

[hoary crag]

but in the end, the crucible didn't have enough slots

[prime pendant]

Light mode

[hoary crag]

crucibles only have 5 slots

the combined setup needed 7

[storm junco]

Dem

[hoary crag]

tho I managed to make it as compact as I could

30x26

[twilit ferry]

does pc even have dark mode?

[deft ice]

2 , so there is no efficiency loss? My lines get clogged every few seconds the way I have it and I could streamline it, I just don’t wanna redo everything to find out it’s a loss.

[storm junco]

Or maybe use saparator?

Yeah you still need crucible

[prime pendant]

Looks great
Do you have any other buildings on the other side of the depots?

[hoary crag]

what do I even use a separator for?

[storm junco]

Put xyranite in bottle

[prime pendant]

If two lines from the buck it shouldn't be a loss no

[hoary crag]

my yahzen syringe A and C lines, along with independent sandleaf planters, are in the sub pac

[deft ice]

Ty time to rebuild everything lol

[prime pendant]

I wish😔
It's just that my discord dark mode then that bright white background with bright red vodka picture appeared

[prime pendant]

Lmao you got thiss

[wispy grove]

hows the clogging problem? still happening?

[marble yarrow]

what clogging?

[wispy grove]

you know, the offline clogging?

[prime pendant]

Ohhhh, so cool

[marble yarrow]

which item

[wispy grove]

just the battery

[storm junco]

Sewage in a bottle of cuprium

Then using saparating

Then fill it up with jincao

[marble yarrow]

might be the 1% clog since 1.0 but nothing has been clogging to stop my factory

[storm junco]

People gonna drink nuclear sewage water

[wispy grove]

so the clog really happened even before?

[lusty violet]

it might be closer to 0.17% for belts and 0.49% for item control ports
for one machine at least, i'm testing if it compounds on itself

[prime pendant]

FMAB reference?

[marble yarrow]

micro clogs but it rarely reaches to clogging level

[twilit ferry]

so .. gotta make copper to boot strap new batteries. but then copper parts clog because I make them too fast. this is gonna be interesting

[lusty violet]

but if your fluids are clogging, maybe it's the belt stuff being slightly slower so theres excess fluid?

[wispy grove]

oh then im using the wrong word. lets just say offline fluctuations?

[marble yarrow]

its been happening since 1.0

[spark hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482690912416174145

[wispy grove]

i see

[keen river]

pretty sure the offline and online algos are bit different

[lusty violet]

yea, they are

just replace all belts with splitter/converger/bridge

(don't actually do it)

[twilit ferry]

im guessing the Tick rate is significantly slower offline. Just like when you swap regions, it only samples every x seconds

[keen river]

it doesnt really make much sense to tick factory in offline mode, you can jump ahead

[twilit ferry]

when you are in the AIC its ticking every second or faster

[keen river]

but i guess it dpends on how fancy their algo is

[jovial breach]

it's the belts

[twilit ferry]

yeah

[wispy grove]

but that doesnt happen on v4 tho? so its probably not the belts

[jovial breach]

they get weird offline

[twilit ferry]

belts are very dumb in this game

[tawny ravine]

weird thing does happen in v4

some things become clogged overnight when they arent clogged online

[marble yarrow]

its happens both v4 and wuling

[jovial breach]

if you use less belts the results is more consistent

[marble yarrow]

just change chart to 1-day to see it

everything has less 1 or 2 numbers

[wispy grove]

okay ill look it up now

[marble yarrow]

planters/seeders are very same in behavior

[pulsar cypress]

[outer bramble]

[marble yarrow]

also most funny thing is, a refiner taking an originium ore from aic loader, refining it into origocrust, and going back directly to depot also has erratic behavior

[keen river]

i think its fine to just assume that stuff isnt super precise and thats about it

unless you need some super precision somewhere for some reason its inconsequential anyway

if you are using the metastore it also throws a wrench into all calculations

[trail vine]

what's the new optimal output in wuling

[keen river]

1x red healing items, 2x t2 batteries

right, you need to keep processing coprium to make t2 batteries

[brittle vale]

I believe there's no point in looping the sewage from last step of xircon production? Basically gives half sewage spent on it

[jagged vector]

What's the max yield for the ores in wuling currently

[outer bramble]

I also believe there's no point to loop the sewage

because not enough xiranite to process it

[keen river]

yeah, its mostly for being fancy

[brittle vale]

480 originium, 90 ferrium and 120 cuprium

and you can achieve 120 xiranite proguction with 4 forges

[keen river]

it used to be possible to make extra coprium with metastorage transfer, but they fixed it

[brittle vale]

Unlucky, would be really cool to make some kind of start-up feed and then let system be on loop

[keen river]

might become relevant in 1.2, shall see

right now there is just not enough base resources to do anything fancy

[trail vine]

Looping the sewage?

[keen river]

like this

[spark hedge]

60 circon

Less pipe

[keen river]

instead of just throwing the sewage from xircon away and feeding two effluent with cuprium's sewage

[desert magnet]

how long do i need to build this?

[spark hedge]

Just use more energy, u are rich anyway

[desert magnet]

aw hell naw

every batteries count

[outer bramble]

Talking about sewage loop, I was wonder if we can store the sewage in bottle then used the bottles when the copium stuffs max out

[spark hedge]

Why so complicate

[brittle vale]

and then there's me with 1600 spare energy

[outer bramble]

why not? 😆

[spark hedge]

Try this

[keen river]

or me who just teleported bunch of batteries from valley 4..

[brittle vale]

You technically can but it's easier to just empty your storage by selling cuprium parts and making them all over again

[brittle vale]

Good way too. I barely sell 12k daily in valley and have bajillion more left

[keen river]

yeah

nothing left to buy in valley 4 either 😢

[brittle vale]

It's been an hour or two of offline, let's check the clog

[brittle vale]

Wonder if we'll get that custom essence thing again

[keen river]

yeah

honestly i wish they added more stuff to shop

[outer bramble]

How much stuffs to empty out V4 bills?

[keen river]

dunno, you dont really need much fancy stuff there tbh

[spark hedge]

18 bat A + 18 med A

[brittle vale]

It's definitely not normal, heh

[marble yarrow]

check 30m or 2hr chart

[keen river]

i make like 2x or 3x healing items and then pad with t2 batteries or t1 healing items and it empties the outposts just fine

[brittle vale]

And for sure only touches liquid-included recepies

[spark hedge]

@outer bramble

[brittle vale]

it is 30 min

[spark hedge]

Bonus 24 med C for not wasting amethyst

[outer bramble]

Thanks!

[keen river]

unfortunately at some point, there is just nothing worth buying there

[outer bramble]

Could not empty out the last outpost

[brittle vale]

Huh, if to look at valley 4 - clog issue touches it too

[spark hedge]

It take days

[brittle vale]

I believe those spikes (little but spikes) are my online time

[outer bramble]

I guess there is really problem with offline mode

[brittle vale]

I thought it only takes place with liquids, but not, everything is affected

Welp, waiting for devs to fix that

[outer bramble]

Pipe is belt in disguise IMO

[keen river]

pipes have instant transfer tho dont they

[brittle vale]

I think so, but limited flow rate

[keen river]

yeah

[outer bramble]

They don't to me

[brittle vale]

My valley build is nice

[outer bramble]

This one seem fine huh?

[keen river]

dunno, all my factories seem to be in some random state of being backed up

[wispy grove]

i feel bad

[brittle vale]

My valley planters seem to be all fine tho

[wispy grove]

this what happens when you have 0.00001% error of margin looks like

[brittle vale]

Oh, I am finally out of stock in valley goods

Free to forget about its existence

[keen river]

the elastic goods infinite money storage calls you now 😅

[brittle vale]

Yeah, will buy from time to time

Still need to stock up on gift items

[jagged vector]

Anyone got a blueprint for pulse battery input?

[severe condor]

so what happened to metatransfer? i thought it's free stuff from v4 to other region, why does it say insufficient item

[keen river]

you probably forgot to switch it to metastorage on earlier tab

[uneven sequoia]

Guys I just got to my first Sub PAC in Wuling and upgraded it's size once. My Main PAC has upgraded once in size and depot. What do u guys think I shoud be making first?

[jagged vector]

It says stockpile right there

[severe condor]

oh yea true xd

[final meadow]

I wonder which power option would be better? Producing 3525W and using 1.56 SC batteries or producing 3462.5W and using 1.5 SC + .06 LC batteries

[outer bramble]

see what you can sell first

[brittle vale]

LC batteries are your way to go. Both energy source and selling item. Also you are able to utilize ferrium ore for syringes until you upgrade outpost to level 3

[severe condor]

ok nvm, cant transfer cuprium part from v4 to wuling w/ metatransfer

[outer bramble]

[keen river]

yeah, they fixed it

[brittle vale]

Also I hope devs will fix those funny invisible pipe connections to buildings

Goofy

[keen river]

i wish they had proper model, even when they are working its just a goofy yellow light

[steep knoll]

so whats the new wuling meta? i mean, just like valley does 18 hc 18 buck a 24 buck c.

[keen river]

1x healing, 2x batteries

[brittle vale]

A lot to do fix with pipes and stuff tbh. I'd kiss everyone in HG if they add option to flip input/output sides for pipes of buildings too

I doubt I am the only one who loves their factory nice and symmetrical

[steep knoll]

6 syringe A, 12 sc wuling batteries? also what to meta storage?

[paper magnet]

easier to route some pipes too

[keen river]

also buildings defaulting to water mode is bit yank

[inland perch]

Go to dige CN and set ur conditions

[keen river]

you have extra belt of ferrium so you can meta storage some originium and make mini valley 4 sc batteries i guess?

[paper magnet]

you'd try to stack 2 buildings side by side only to block the ingress port for the liquid on the other

[brittle vale]

Amazing feeling of rebuilding half the thing because you forgot to leave 1 tile space for pipe

[wooden salmon]

where can i find xiranite component bp without forge?

[steep knoll]

i mean before the update i was meta storage ferrium for 5.75 syringe c and 12 lc batteries or something like that

[keen river]

yeah, you can still keep doing that

but not sure if C syringes will be of any use anyway

[steep knoll]

so for now meta storage is not needed for 12 hc wuling batteries and 6 syringe A right

[trail mirage]

cant find the problem

[keen river]

something clogged in origium processing?

[trail mirage]

nvm found it

[outer bramble]

[tall echo]

Just to clarify, the new rigs don't need power but I still need to power the pump to pump water into the rigs right?

[lone pebble]

can anywone figure if this can go smaller ? its 54/35 ! any feedbk will be usefful thx !

[keen river]

yeah

note that the underground pipes dont need power either

so in particular, you dont need to bring power to south coprium deposit

[tall echo]

Does the water flow slow down the more I split the pipes?

Wondering if 1 pump is enough for 6 rigs

[keen river]

pretty sure you need two

high purity nodes need 0.3 water / s and there are 4 of them so thats already 1.2+

[frail trail]

@marble yarrow read your note early on max production, do you reckon LC bat could be used to use up some of the left over originium. I also did some calculation and xiranite comp came out a bit better for profit

[brittle vale]

I wouldn't risk and just slap two pumps each feeding three rigs

[keen river]

yeah

[tall echo]

Alrighty

[keen river]

those are next to water anyway

[frail trail]

if it's 6 low purity rigs then yes, otherwise no

[brittle vale]

I believe there's always chance that with new update and new regional development levels rigs might increase their level?

[keen river]

yeah

but then still

[tall echo]

Yeah if 6 were to be all high purity, would 2 still be enough?

I wanna future proof

[keen river]

you can support 3 high purity rigs with 1 water pump

[brittle vale]

I think yes, just like said above each one takes 0,3 water/s, thus three will take 0,9/s while pump produced 1/s

[keen river]

yep

[still zinc]

why are my xiranite pylons and relay towers not letting me transmit power to other towers and relays?

[marble yarrow]

havent yet tried, but i will experiment if i get motivation

[brittle vale]

Xiranite doesn't connect to Valley 4 relays

only to xiranite

[keen river]

yep, dont mix them up

[still zinc]

yea to my other xiranite ones in wuling, theyre not connecting. i just unlocked the aic here is that why? do i need to progress more?

[brittle vale]

If you have your power line up and running from AIC - everything should be connecting between eachother

Maybe you missed the distances?

[keen river]

maybe you are too far or something?

[brittle vale]

80m for relays and 30m for pylons

[still zinc]

theres no prompt for me to start power transmission from the pylons and relays themselves

[keen river]

yeah

you dont need to

they auto connect

[still zinc]

i can interact with the relay and stuff to move/stash

[keen river]

just put a new pylon where you want and they will connect on their own

no need to drag the cables in wuling

[brittle vale]

Try placing new relay and you'll see the interface

[still zinc]

oh did they change it from v1.0? im returning after lavas banner forr the new patch

[brittle vale]

it's cable-free connection

[floral heron]

wuling pylons doesnt have a prompt, face the direction where your last pylon is and it should show you distance, if it doesnt show if you're facing the AIC then you're too far

[keen river]

nah, it was always like this

[still zinc]

ohhh i see

[keen river]

maybe you have used valley 4 pylons in wuling before, you can deploy them there too, but the two systems dont interconnect

[still zinc]

got it tysm

[uneven aspen]

Just wondering, are there any website tools that show amount of liquid in a pipe, or items/min in a belt or the yield at the end? Or are they still mostly blueprint like?

Kinda wanna redesign one of my batteries but have no space to experiment on sadly.

so next best thing is using one of those websites where you can design the aic . . . but I haven't seen one that shows input rate/production rate etc

[floral heron]

you can, however use valley 4 pylons within the AIC area, that one still works

[iron stratus]

each splitter cuts belt throughput by half correct

[uneven aspen]

half if 2 lanes, thirds if 3 lanes

[floral heron]

ok, time to replace jingyu miners, running around time

[uneven aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1482473011281006706/image.png?ex=69b7bcd4&is=69b66b54&hm=c49a3d3e97e47866c9a69645eaf8203fc2271155a9faca20b4f94196826104b0&animated=true

like yesterday I have sc battery running at 66% so the xircon reactor only gives 66% of sewage than normal

while the cuprium refiner is at 100%.

then had to figure out movin the sewage so the 2 other reactors don't get go to 100%.

would be nice if those websites for designing aic layouts have input/flow rate and item yields

[keen river]

somewhat, only true if you are using both sides

if one side clogs, it will push items at full rate to other

[cyan forge]

WULING 100% optimized, pog

[marsh moth]

Hey, so considering we can only have 4 sky forges for xiranite powder, that means we can only set up 2 xircon production set ups at 100% efficiency right?

[keen river]

right

[marsh moth]

Man that sucks

[keen river]

it uses all originium anyway

[trail mirage]

wat ts mean

[frail trail]

did the math and max sc + 0 lc gives the same amount of profit as optimal sc + lc with all gear/m and gear ratio

granted max sc + 0 lc give you the extra originium to throw into thermal banks for power which mean you can save more on pwm

[frail trail]

lag probably

[marble yarrow]

not 100% optimized, bring it below 3400

[frail trail]

<3400 possible with full zipline + full sentry?

[marble yarrow]

yeah. i have 3100 power @ 31 zipline (i put batteries on each turret)

i produce 10.5 SC, 5.25 yazhen A, 1.5 component

[frail trail]

zamn, might be able to optimize gear production a bit more

[twilit ferry]

never seen a golden chest before.... 150 orobel

[marble yarrow]

+3.125 yazhen C

[trail mirage]

bro i cant move anything

[floral heron]

what was the ratio again for hydro mining? 1 pump for 3 high purity?

[outer bramble]

yeah

[marble yarrow]

yeah, first you group the 3 high-purity for the 1st pump

the 2nd pump, i group the rest, since its a mix of high and low

1 pump can power:

3 high
2 high 2 low
1 high 4 low
6 low

[floral heron]

got it. mucho arigato

[cyan forge]

it's cos of ziplines.

[marble yarrow]

or you can stay to just 3 is to 1

[marble yarrow]

i have 31 ziplines @ 3100 power

[cyan forge]

huh?

[floral heron]

think he meant with total 31zips he's using 3100 power in total

[cyan forge]

i know

[marble yarrow]

of course

[cyan forge]

but how? what do u make?

cos my factory should alr be 100% optimized

[marble yarrow]

see? dont throw "100% optimization" like crazy

[inland perch]

Meanwhile me at 3780:

[cyan forge]

i mean, it kinda don't matter? cos i'm only eating 1.5 battery a minute?

the small extra r originium which doesn't deplete

[drifting tide]

Im running 2 xircons and 2 sc wuling battery atm, if I want to make xiranite components or cuprium components, should I turn 1 off 1 sc battery farm

[cyan forge]

so it is optimized

[marble yarrow]

[floral heron]

when you guys say using 1.5 batts per minute, is like running in a sequencer loop?

like, strategized battery starving

[marble yarrow]

its the speed of 1 bank eating 1 battery

[cyan forge]

by optimized, i mean am using all my power with no wasted power

[marble yarrow]

sure bro

[cyan forge]

if u bring it to under 3.4k, sum power r being wasted

[marble yarrow]

maybe im 150% efficient then

[cyan forge]

anw, what do u make?

[quiet hedge]

I thought you can do 2 output liquid xiranite with one reactor crucible with expansion upgrade

like 2 xiranite line in 1 water line then 2 output with consistent rate out instead of swapping line out

[cyan forge]

u haven't answered that

[inland perch]

I think after i turn off my cupri component factory ill get below 3500 hopefully rn runnin 2 sc batts and one yazhen A

[marble yarrow]

except, i also lower my battery like i pwm it

[cyan forge]

i think ik where sum of ur optimization come from

[cyan forge]

understandable

so what? 12 lc, 6 yaz a, 2.75 yaz c?

[cyan forge]

meta transfer bottle?

[marble yarrow]

im actually spending extra power since i also run a cuprium gear

[trail mirage]

I CANT DO MY FACTORY WHYY

[inland perch]

R u also runnin sc batts im runnin it 12/min

[cyan forge]

it doesn't make sense for u to be below 3.4k w that

[marble yarrow]

have u also optimized by not giving yazhen its own reactors, and instead using the reactors of SC battery?

[marble yarrow]

have you tried changing all of your miners into hydro miners?

[inland perch]

U share rhe reactor crucibles?

[cyan forge]

how many total reactors?

[marble yarrow]

yeah, doable

[cyan forge]

huh? it's less power than the ferium mine?

[marble yarrow]

look at every spots comparison, when u dont hydro mine, and when you change them

[cyan forge]

good fk, i should've checked that

[marble yarrow]

top spot saves 50 power already

[cyan forge]

what's ur power at?

[marble yarrow]

~3100

[cyan forge]

hmm idk if i wanna go thru w this hassle ngl

well i'll do it when i have time

thanks for the tip

[floral heron]

love the jank

[marble yarrow]

peak piping

[floral heron]

water be metatransfering

[cyan forge]

Hm right, so for hydro mine, u power it using water right? How many mine can be powered by a single water pump?

[floral heron]

refer this

[marble yarrow]

its a mix of high purity and low purity

[cyan forge]

Gotcha thanks

[floral heron]

my current bible

[marble yarrow]

yeah check the reply up

either you can do that, or just go 1pump:3node

coz people are concerned if the low purity ones get updated in next patch

[cyan forge]

Am prolly gonna do 1 pump 3 node

[marble yarrow]

which doesnt bother me (i can just add pump and reconfigure when it happens, for a few minutes)

[cyan forge]

Can't be bothered to fix piping down the line

[lucid python]

spoilers ig ||is there a new base with 1.1 story or do I need to route power from sky king flats?||

[inland perch]

This alr happened to me twice for two rig spots lmao

[marble yarrow]

none. yea just power it from jingyu

[floral heron]

ez mode quarrey

[trail mirage]

looking pretty clean right now

[floral heron]

i concur, clean AF

[wheat forum]

U can just merge 2 pumps in a single conduit, y'know?

[floral heron]

i'm assuming 2unit flow rate for separation

[shell hinge]

I would recommend going down to 1.75 battery machines. This leaves 0.25 belts of xiranite for components, enough for 0.75/min of comps. That should be enough since you can only artifice 0.4/min worth of comps

[frail trail]

i think i've had enough excel gaming today

[strong quiver]

For safety and future scaling 1 pump every 3 mines

[drifting tide]

Um if thats the case, can you elaborate please, thats a really specific number and im just doing the bare basics

[strong quiver]

Or

Here me out

Save the bp

[toxic forge]

its not that complicated 😭

[strong quiver]

And do a delete the line on one day

And add it in another

Alternating

That's what the bp system are for

[floral heron]

why not use item control port? you can set qty to create from there

[frank sun]

such dedication...

[strong quiver]

Use it to the fullest extent

[strong quiver]

Lazy and i want my line as small as my oroberyl reserve

[frail trail]

6 sc bat + 6 cuprium gear + 3 syringe A + 4.25 is not enough to outpace outpost production

[strong quiver]

[marble yarrow]

sheetmaxing

[frail trail]

excel gaming

[frank sun]

what is this for? i'm curious

[frail trail]

optimizing production

[marble yarrow]

yknow whats funny, im actually designing pipeline routes irl

[mighty yacht]

i thought this was the stockade map for a sec XD

[nova pilot]

Can someone tell me if this balances out?

[frank sun]

ohhh i see...

[marble yarrow]

my pipeline ingame:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1482613541268619394/OutpostWuling.mp4?ex=69b83fb5&is=69b6ee35&hm=28ba4dc99797e2ecbe48a8b83f369ae670851e1fa01adbad4b5b02b8c73d09df&

💀

[strong quiver]

Residental?

What's the tilt angle

[frank sun]

that's something

[drifting tide]

i dont need a factory thats minmaxed bro, i need 1 thats able to get me cuprium/xiranite components when i want them to artifice my gear, produce the stock bills i need to buy artificing catalysts and those essence tickets, have some spare space in case im short on some parts and to not run out of power

[floral heron]

is this just because you can

[shell hinge]

Artificing is the main consumer of components, so that's the target. You can buy 80 wuling artificing catalysts per week, so you can consume 4000 components per week. That works out to 0.4/min, which will cost 4/min of xiranite. I personally use 0.25 belts of xiranite for comps, which produces 0.375/min of each component.

This level of production also allows you to sustain full outpost supplies, allowing you to run it indefinitely

[marble yarrow]

also next part lmaooo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1482612369589796944/WulingPipeline.mp4?ex=69b83e9e&is=69b6ed1e&hm=e439360a985f7571683bdd5dbf90dffe107db5b65c9f7465053e0b994871bbe8&

[marble yarrow]

yeah i just tried

[frank sun]

WHOA WHOAA

[marble yarrow]

thats for because i stored liquid xiranite before 1.1

for battery

[floral heron]

i'm using control port on cuprium part for manufacturing, max 5k pcs per allowance, otherwise batt goes nyoom on production

[marble yarrow]

and i was planning to dump 40k sewage into it

[frank sun]

yall figured out things so fast whoaa...

[marble yarrow]

and the game just didnt allowed me

guess i'll just bottle the sewage and deliver it to the depot node

[floral heron]

cant speak for others, i have zero sanity behaviour

[frank sun]

[marble yarrow]

r u ready

[shell hinge]

I like the 0.375/min of each component because it means I do not have to manually control/balance anything. I can let it run forever knowing that I'll always have enough for stock bills and artificing

[frank sun]

[frail trail]

could use a base in #1461542035617091681, kyostinv's or sciel's 1.1 base, issue is that a simple base that can switch between 6 sc + 6 cuprium comp and 12 sc 0 cuprium comp doesn't exist

[drifting tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnyeNtaX9eo&t=425s

i found this 1

im not using either

[shell hinge]

Do these video bases handle sewage priority?

[drifting tide]

kyostinv is the goat though ya

nvm

as long as my base doesnt go out of power its fine for now

im running 1 cuprium part line atm

if i need more components or xiranite 1s

ill go turn off

[shell hinge]

Looks like the answer is no sewage priority for this apel video

Rip

[drifting tide]

i have

no idea what youre talking about

[shell hinge]

I hope kyostinv handles sewage priority

[frank sun]

gonna eep now gn guys-

[drifting tide]

that video is using the sewage from the yazhen syringes to make xircon

thats all i know

[shell hinge]

You want to prioritize sewage going to effluent reactors, then to treatment plants. If you directly connect cuprium to effluent, any slowdown in effluent will cause cuprium to clog on sewage and slow down

[toxic forge]

everyones titling their base as "the best" despite all of them being functionally the same..

[marble yarrow]

real

[drifting tide]

thats just how youtube works

anyways ill go turn off 1 battery and xircon line if i want more components

thanks anyways for u all inputs

[high plinth]

wtf is this lmao
He's right tho nothing stop us to connect pipe outside AIC area
https://x.com/i/status/2033165421587669192

XDDDD_ARPG (@XDDDD_ARPG)

Your silly yellow lines can't stop me! #Enfield

X · Mar 15, 2026, 12:56 PM

[shell hinge]

Do you manually control sewage?

[drifting tide]

idk what that is, all u have to do is the turn off the end unit responsible for making the end product and let the whole production unit clog up

isnt it as simple as that lol

[trail mirage]

IM DONEEEEE

[marble yarrow]

(dont mind them they're just crazy about sewage

[shell hinge]

If you turn off some xircon, it will also clog cuprium

Unless you also control the sewage in some manner

[drifting tide]

hmm

[floral heron]

that's some high level jenga

[shell hinge]

You can do it manually, or you can use one of the various designs that do it automatically

[drifting tide]

what if i turn off just the battery line

if im not wrong

my base transports the xircon into my depot

then exports it out again

[shell hinge]

You can, but xircon is what consumes xiranite

[trail mirage]

still have space :(

[young silo]

Omg factory😂 😂 😂 😂

[shell hinge]

You can't maintain 60/min of xircon while also making components without depleting xiranite

[drifting tide]

what if

[marble yarrow]

yellow dancing guy lmao

[drifting tide]

i let my xircon hit the limit

problem solved

in my depot

[floral heron]

your xircon goes to depot?

[gritty skiff]

It's a mess but hey it works

[quiet hemlock]

LET ME PLACE MY DAMN DEPOT UNLOADER

[shell hinge]

Aside from taking a long time, it would result in xircon clogging, then sewage clogging cuprium

[trail mirage]

you can put one there

[quiet hemlock]

Doesn't let me. Says "invalid action"

[shell hinge]

If you want to handle it manually, just add a flow control to divert sewage to water treatment when you want to run components

[trail mirage]

why not just do one at a time instead of both

[shell hinge]

Or you can use something like priority flow to handle it automatically

[trail mirage]

dont copy paste it, just place one down

[quiet hemlock]

I am

It still doesn't let me

[shell hinge]

You can. Just remember to also switch over sewage if you do so

[trail mirage]

i mean its an easy fix 😭

[shell hinge]

If that's how you want to handle it, it does work

A lot of people are just new to factory games and so don't realize that sewage can back up when xircon slows down

[tribal crescent]

can i power 6 hydro rig with 1 pump

[shell hinge]

Only if they are low purity

[tribal crescent]

lmao?

why the discrmination

[nova osprey]

6 low purity ones

[nova osprey]

because the high purity ones run faster

[tribal crescent]

damn

[nova osprey]

each pump supplies 60/min ore generation

high purity is 20/min, low purity is 10/min

[tribal crescent]

should I replace all my rig with hydro

[drifting tide]

i have 2 xircon line and 2 sc battery lines whats the issue

[tribal crescent]

[drifting tide]

im not trying to minmax

[nova osprey]

it will save you like 115 energy

[tribal crescent]

pumps don't work in v4 right

[tribal crescent]

that's a lot!

[drifting tide]

i will still be using the xircon eventually

[tribal crescent]

my battery saving will be better!

[nova osprey]

[drifting tide]

im not trying to minmax as long as my factory doesnt outofpower its ok

i dont want to check on factory every few hours thats stupid

[shell hinge]

You can't make more xircon if you're full on xircon, hence you won't consume any sewage, which clogs cuprium

As I suggested, there are automatic solutions like priority flow

[floral heron]

i'm assuming your factory is not a full streamlined design, but split by components?

[marble yarrow]

REAL

[hollow dock]

Oh is this a thing? How

[shell hinge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482466765459030056

[tribal crescent]

so for high purity ore

how many pumps

[shell hinge]

1 pump per 3 miners

[tribal crescent]

weak sauce

🥀

[shell hinge]

I'll send my full factory if you really want it, but I may have forgotten that conduits exist so it's covered in pipes

Does have optimal outputs though

[frail trail]

I was about to go to sleep but then remembered that I haven't used all my credits

I hate this game

[drifting tide]

actually u know what ill go login and turn off 1 battery line and leave it for 1 day and see what happens ill screenshot u my factory meantime

[tribal crescent]

by the by

uh

[nova osprey]

if you dont have a water treatment plant to clean the sewage of the cuprium to battery line, you're going to clog and lose power @.@

[tribal crescent]

you only need 1 sewage output for 1 sc battery prod line

innit

[drifting tide]

whats lose power lol

[somber snow]

how much power do you ppl use for ur wuling factory

[shell hinge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482466765459030056

[nova osprey]

wait the sc lines won't clog the med/cuprium lines will clog

[floral heron]

at worst case scenario one line still runs at max, you still net gain 2/min

[shell hinge]

I may or may not be using 4505 power lol

[nova osprey]

maybe o.o;;

[nova osprey]

wow geez

[shell hinge]

Zipline network plus combat turrets are expensive

[somber snow]

thats a lot

[trail mirage]

use batteries

[nova osprey]

why don't you use batteries for combat turrets

[shell hinge]

Not worth the effort. The setup is supposed to be afk

[marble yarrow]

lmao i have 15 days to clear this

[fervent spoke]

I guess you, tripple 2way split your cuprium line ?

[nova osprey]

you know a stack of sc batteries will last you a year per alluvium, even if you do it 10x a day per alluvium

per turret

[trail mirage]

i used over 1k sanity today and havent even used 1 battery

hc

[shell hinge]

Or I could hook it up to base power and just not think about it

[shell hinge]

I still max out outpost+artificing, so I don't actually lose anything by spending more power

[toxic forge]

my cuprium component stockpile will be full in 20 days..

[trail mirage]

all i need are 3 hc batter/m

[tribal crescent]

no way

[storm junco]

Inlet and outlet dont use power right?

[nova osprey]

1 battery lasts for 10+ days though

[marble yarrow]

nice cope

[tribal crescent]

hooking the turrets up is actually bad

😭

[nova osprey]

it's insanely bad

[tribal crescent]

imagine bringing battery

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wait

[trail mirage]

its not that much work

[tribal crescent]

i can pull battery from easy stash

innit

[shell hinge]

As I said, not worth the effort. I don't care to pointlessly stockpile batteries in my depot that I can't use

[toxic forge]

so turrets only use battery when they shoot?

[nova osprey]

yeap

[floral heron]

i think some of us likes our turrets to be there whenever we want to whack-a-mole instead of runniing around with batteries

[tribal crescent]

ye

[somber snow]

using batteries is better,
but if they dont lose anything, it wont matter much,
but it wont take that much effort to do it anyways

[tribal crescent]

well

tbf

they take a lot of power

15 turrets is no joke

[marble yarrow]

all my alluviums have turrets

all have batteries

[shell hinge]

30 turrets now lol

[nova osprey]

i mean that's still like 1 battery a day if you run an alluvium 10+ times

[trail mirage]

cost like 1 per day

[tribal crescent]

too much work

i like my thing hooked

like civilized people

[nova osprey]

[tribal crescent]

well i still need to place ziplines there

so uh

idk

[marble yarrow]

i love seeing lazy reasons tbh

[tribal crescent]

do i have to go out of my way to like

[floral heron]

too much manual input is bad for my ADHD, i'd be replacing batteries and start chasing wolves for fillet

[somber snow]

assuming each turret takes 50 power,
thats about 1500 power for 30,

in both wuling and v4, using an extra battery wont matter,
ud still empty the outposts

[shell hinge]

I've got zipline coverage in every zone as well

[cloud hearth]

.stop2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[tribal crescent]

avoid placing the turrets in the pylons zone

[storm junco]

I hope in the future we have hydro electric

[nova osprey]

bro i don't understand the logic 😭

you say you want to save 115 power by using hydro rigs but won't go out of your way to save 300+ power with for something that takes 2 minute per year

[tribal crescent]

hydro rig is 1 time deal rbo

[toxic forge]

i dont see a point in doing that in wuling cause i have too much power even when im just burning 1.5 batteries per minute but i might just do that in v4

[tribal crescent]

[nova osprey]

it's not

if you want to save 115 power atm, you have to change it

[shell hinge]

I don't use hydro rigs to save power either. In fact, I use mining drill mk2 even on originium just to avoid needing to care what kind of drill I have

[nova osprey]

every patch

[drifting tide]

@shell hinge all this talk end up made me login bro

so.

[somber snow]

that sentence hurts me,
but u do u

[tribal crescent]

if a turret is within pylon range it will not take batteries any longer?

[somber snow]

if u have trouble with power later on,
gl with that

[tribal crescent]

well maybe i will redo all of this

but like

ziplines do need pylon

[shell hinge]

I'm not unaware of power saving methods, so if it ever does matter I can change it. As of now, it just doesn't make a difference

[floral heron]

ah, so i was right. it's not a full streamlined, but divided into parts

[tribal crescent]

so do i have to go out of my way to not place turret in pylon zone?

[nova osprey]

oh i wasn't talking to you, was talking to zeratul

[drifting tide]

idk whats going on anymore i just wanted to know if i can turn off 1 battery line

[floral heron]

construct additional pylons

[eager pelican]

also if somebody runs into issues with the Conduit IN and OUT: https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1ruliyz/conduit_inlete_and_outlet_issues/

[drifting tide]

so i can make components faster

[wintry stump]

do hydro mining rigs offer power savings over electric rigs?

[tribal crescent]

ye

[floral heron]

actually if you turn off 1, then you only make 6/min, but if you split the other batt efficiency into half you still get a bit more batts

[marble yarrow]

i like seeing problems that doesnt happen in my factory lmaooo

[floral heron]

either way not wrong, just how you like it

[eager pelican]

They use int for the inlets but float for the belts. Which is funny to me

that caused the problems

[somber snow]

oh yeah, we have grade A meds, but where are the grade Bs

[eager pelican]

it would be way better if they have like a variable transfer rate depending on how the flowrate behaves

[marble yarrow]

i conduit at max capacity, but i dont encounter this

[nova osprey]

yes, if you wire it right

[drifting tide]

wnt to turn these 4 off, but some people say i will go out of power if i do that?

[eager pelican]

it just happens, when you use it to transfer sewage inside your factory

[tall echo]

Ohhh so it's good to replace all my electric rigs in Wuling into hydro to save electricity?

[marble yarrow]

never got weird stuff

[eager pelican]

it does not happen with water

[marble yarrow]

i do let sewage outside

and it goes back inside

and doesnt affect me

[eager pelican]

it is a really specific way on how you have to do it

[marble yarrow]

skill issue maybe

[eager pelican]

like every factory needs to be connected to an Inlet

[nova osprey]

btw is this a fix for the small dips in production that occur randomly?

[somber snow]

u guys use inlets in your factories?

[eager pelican]

yes

[eager pelican]

what do you mean?

[shell hinge]

"Good" has a big caveat in this instance. Using hydro rigs saves power, yes. Saving power only provides a benefit if you clock your thermal banks precisely enough to actually use less batteries with your lower power consumption.

If you save 100 power on drills, you need to adjust your thermal banks to produce 100 less power to use less batteries.

[lusty violet]

you aren't fixing small dips unless u replace all belts

[floral heron]

are you not producing yazhen A?

[marble yarrow]

sewage appears in the middle

[nova osprey]

idk there's always tiny dips in production quantity throughout the aic report

[nova osprey]

wdym

[lusty violet]

belts/item control offline calculations are bit slower

[drifting tide]

i am but whats that go to do w anything

[nova osprey]

hmm

so there's no fix for it?

[lusty violet]

replace all belts with splitter/converger/bridge

[nova osprey]

oh hell no

[eager pelican]

yeah but you connect like 2/s of sewage. It appears when you run only 0,5/s

thats why it is so random

pipes can only handle integer values and not float

[marble yarrow]

using conduit for 0.5/s?

[eager pelican]

yes

[marble yarrow]

who does that?

[eager pelican]

me

[marble yarrow]

[eager pelican]

why would I transfert everything over a big conduit?

[lusty violet]

why would it clog tho? if you consume enough

[trail mirage]

time for the most annoying thing i have the do this week

[still zinc]

is there a campsite with a mini aic in the jingyu valley area? or should i drag power from the city

[eager pelican]

it shows as clogging

but it technically does not

because the fluids arrive in time

[nova osprey]

there's some slight discrepencies in the way how production is managed that causes items to buildup/backup

[marble yarrow]

prepping my deliveries for tomorrow ❤️ ❤️

[nova osprey]

im trying to figure out what's going on there atm as well but can't figure out what's the cause just yet

[somber snow]

there is an outpost, yes

[eager pelican]

and it only happens, when you use like 2 smelters because it creates just 2 sewage /2 seconds

after a while it will clog too

[lusty violet]

oh yea, i know this, was referring to the sewage thing

[eager pelican]

this is the correct thing.

[nova osprey]

for sewage it's for the same reason

i don't know what's going on tbh

[lusty violet]

i don't think its the same reason as belts/item control tho

[eager pelican]

well in sweage it boils down to ratios.

[nova osprey]

pretty sure it is, but not sure

[floral heron]

nah just wondering, because i'm trying to make sense of your design, i just saw that the component sewage is just treated instead of conduits. so if you turn off one line batt production you will still get 6bat/min and yazhen A 6/min

[eager pelican]

and they cant handle float like 0,5

[marble yarrow]

me using 10.5 SC config introduces a fail-safe water treatment in the leftmost side

[eager pelican]

if you use water it works pretty fine because it is a constant stream of water

like 1/s and the conduit can handle 1/s

but it can not handle 0,5/s

[nova osprey]

can i see your aic report for the last 30 minutes haruna?

[drifting tide]

turned these off ill just find out if im gna out of power or not the hard way

[nova osprey]

for sc batteries

[drifting tide]

brain hurting from thinking too much

ok im out pce

[eager pelican]

[drifting tide]

waste of power is fine i dont care

just no out of power

[nova osprey]

hmm it's so stable

[marble yarrow]

its a 10.5 config

[lusty violet]

prob online for >30min?

[marble yarrow]

2h

[somber snow]

sewage stops flowing,
ur cuprium will clog,
but if u have 1 line of batteries at least, or a stockpile
u're completely fine

[marble yarrow]

1d

[nova osprey]

ah that makes sense then

maybe

im trying to figure out what's going on with my factory that causes slight discrepencies in production

[marble yarrow]

i have failsafes

[nova osprey]

do those failsafes clear the issue with the discrepencies in production?

[marble yarrow]

idk tho lmaoo. but it will not let the facility accumulate and die down

[nova osprey]

im hopping on to show you mine atm, seriously having some issues debugging what's going on

[nova osprey]

kk, i guess ill have to figure this out myself then

[marble yarrow]

maybe ill want to go back to 12SC to see the actual shi

[novel herald]

So u remove half of xiranite unloader for sth else right?

[marble yarrow]

yea

[nova osprey]

i got no idea, my only explanation is the pipe splitters/convergers, that might be making an issue

[marble yarrow]

half self-clogger

[novel herald]

Is 10.5 - usage enough to fulfill outpost needs?

[marble yarrow]

it does

you can go as low as this

[nova osprey]

okay i think im going to need those failsafes

[novel herald]

What about ur ferrium?

[marble yarrow]

you can forego yazhen/jincao C actually

[tribal crescent]

wth

[marble yarrow]

have you seen a 7.5/min belt

[nova osprey]

splitting 50% of a line back into itself clogs the output to 15/min

[tribal crescent]

damn

crazy tech

is this for the ferrium metatransfer

[nova osprey]

splitting 3/4ths of a line back into itself produces a 1/4th output from unloader

[tribal crescent]

very based

[trail mirage]

running on no battery right now

[tribal crescent]

952

[novel herald]

What do u do with ur ferrium deficit here?

[nova osprey]

@marble yarrow this crap makes me so confused

the dips are very random

[marble yarrow]

oh wait i have a mis-entry

[somber snow]

what operators uses the new wuling gears,
becuz rn i dont have see a reason to make any right now

[marble yarrow]

comps dont use ferrium lmao

[lusty violet]

its on regular intervals, things line up pretty well for different productions

[nova osprey]

laev has a new build with one of the new non set chest pieces iirc

[smoky eagle]

What's the actual chill amount for Ferrium outlets

[somber snow]

different playstyle, or is it better

[marble yarrow]

@novel herald there

[nova osprey]

it's the full ult efficiency build

[novel herald]

Ah make sense now

[trail vine]

how many water mining rigs can one fluid pump fill?

[somber snow]

ew, ill pass,
for now, ill use all my cuprium on the syringe

[nova osprey]

fluid pumps provide 60/min ore production, so 3 high purity or 6 low purity, or any ratio in between

[somber snow]

3 for high purity,
6 for low purity,
or so im told

works fine for me

[trail vine]

not ore

I'm asking how much water they consume

[somber snow]

it depends on the purity

[trail vine]

oh.

[marble yarrow]

im actually lazy to artifice now. since they already added new stuff after just a patch?? like wth

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

you mean possibly another gears in 1.2

[nova osprey]

honestly

[smoky eagle]

New ore 1.2?

[nova osprey]

you don't need to be always up to date with new gears

[nova osprey]

maybe

we will see

[marble yarrow]

and the dev preview shows a red liquid and a new reactor and centrifuge

[smoky eagle]

True

Ohh

Bloodium

[nova osprey]

copium fluid

what's next, gases? copium gas?

[smoky eagle]

Wait cuprium lmao

[marble yarrow]

true

[smoky eagle]

gas

[lusty violet]

i need some copium gas

[smoky eagle]

[marble yarrow]

ill stay with this

[smoky eagle]

And Gas Tanks!!!

[marble yarrow]

[smoky eagle]

Yo hot work with arts intensity is good right?

[nova osprey]

i have 451 atm

[slim thorn]

Sorry for the ping but did you figure it out? also am having this problem now

[frail trail]

Gimme those catalyst 👀

[marble yarrow]

i only buy the cheapest price lmaooo

[nova osprey]

might be good with rossi

[nova osprey]

ah ive been buying it all out every chance it get

[marble yarrow]

i mean, wtf is these prices??

[nova osprey]

yeah

[smoky eagle]

Oh shit the sale end????

[nova osprey]

then again i don't do wuling alluviums

[nova osprey]

reset in an hour for them

[smoky eagle]

Fffuuuu I'm off my pc already

[marble yarrow]

asia server week end

[frail trail]

They get restocked

[nova osprey]

asia server

[trail mirage]

i bought out alr

[smoky eagle]

I'm in asia

[marble yarrow]

well actually we have higher bill generation

lmaoo

120k maybe is still good

[smoky eagle]

Yeah ..

[marble yarrow]

fah

[smoky eagle]

[nova osprey]

i mean dont we have double bill generation for the outpost?

[smoky eagle]

2.4 mil

[nova osprey]

or close to idk

[quiet hemlock]

I did not

[trail mirage]

we get like 1.5-2m per day now

[somber snow]

34944

[marble yarrow]

yeah a little above 2x

36288

[frail trail]

You can clear out all of the weekly catalyst if you max everything + 1-2 daily delivery + 3000 profit/stock

[nova osprey]

i forgot how much we made last patch

[marble yarrow]

16770

[trail mirage]

400k per day

[smoky eagle]

I don't have the hightier Jincao product available to sell for me rn, do i have to go lv9 for it?

[somber snow]

around 400k in 12 hours

[nova osprey]

ahhh nice okay yeah

[marble yarrow]

always on my mind lmao

[somber snow]

4.8mil in 6days

not counting delivs and elastic goods

[smoky eagle]

Oohh

[nova osprey]

there is none

can only do yazhen A

[frail trail]

Man I really hope they add a exclamation to the shop when you have >300 credit

I always forget

[nova osprey]

[frail trail]

I even forgot to buy the 99% off arsenal ticket once

[trail mirage]

just buy everything

[marble yarrow]

pretty sad for the jincao tea

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

it looks good

[trail mirage]

i got 100 arsenal tickets once, it was great

[marble yarrow]

who prefers injectables

[somber snow]

idk y u said jincao A doesnt exist

[nova osprey]

i prefer bubble tea indeed

[smoky eagle]

Whyyyy awe mannn i created 17k of it

[quartz coral]

when you're genuinely desperate so you pull out the forbidden technique

[nova osprey]

pain

[frail trail]

I do login, claim, buy and then do all the other stuff that gives credit

[quartz coral]

I feel like I'll get lynched for sharing this

[somber snow]

wait, what am i looking at here?

[frail trail]

Which mean I sometimes just forget to buy with the 600 credits

[quartz coral]

I staggered the depot bus to allow for more depot unloaders, it also happens to create a pocket where I can put in a few extra stuff

[smoky eagle]

Funny bus placement

[somber snow]

oh, thats alr then

mine's worse, wanna see?

[frail trail]

What did the refinery do to get a time out and stand in the corner?

[quartz coral]

you can put the depot bus on the side, it's kind of a cursed technique

[trail mirage]

wasting so much power

[marble yarrow]

bro is increasing surface area lmaoo

[quartz coral]

cuprium refinement takes a bunch of extra space so I couldn't bunch it up with the rest when I realised that I actually needed to use ALL the cuprium to keep up with demand

[smoky eagle]

I think it's ok to transfer all my facilities to City AIC...

Seems like it can all fit there anyway

[wintry stump]

how many hydro mining rigs can i supply off one pump?

[quartz coral]

I'll probably disconnect the old HC valley battery thermal bank sometime soon. The wasted energy is because I just upgraded to SC wuling battery.

[nova osprey]

a pump can supply 60/min ore generation, so 3 high purity or 6 low purity

[somber snow]

3 for rigs on high purities,
6 for rigs on low purities

[trail mirage]

it does NOT use a lot of space

[somber snow]

ooh, seems compact

[quartz coral]

I DID NOT REALIZE YOU CAN COMBINE THE WASTE STREAMS

[nova osprey]

can i see your AIC report

im checking smth but too lazy to remake my entire factory atm

[trail mirage]

yea why?

[somber snow]

yeah, but it gets a bit confusing though, with managing the pipes and all

i mean, look at this

[nova osprey]

can you set it for 30 minutes?

[nova osprey]

just doing some testing and wanted to see whats going on with my factory atm that's bugging out

[quartz coral]

How do you get a picture of the whole thing

[wooden salmon]

i make less :/

[nova osprey]

why is mine so unstable then wtf

[marble yarrow]

have you tried saving a reactor

[somber snow]

i take SSs, and then stitch them together

[lusty violet]

it depends if they were actually offline, or online during that period

[nova osprey]

there's something wrong with my factory

[quartz coral]

oh, too much effort for me

[marble yarrow]

see? it doesnt affect everyone

[somber snow]

dw, theyll update the game where u can view ur factory better

[quartz coral]

lemme login and see mine

[trail mirage]

no space

[nova osprey]

yeah 🙃

[marble yarrow]

ahh you pass through already

[nova osprey]

GAH

[lusty violet]

are you NA/EU?

[somber snow]

they r

[nova osprey]

yes

[marble yarrow]

you know whats funnier? I purposely filled 3 of the 4 reactors with 50 sewage each

and it still doesnt affect me

*i

[nova osprey]

yeah idk where the instability is coming from for me

definitely smth buggy going on but not sure where

[lusty violet]

how does ur v4 look like

[marble yarrow]

hopefully more people post on reddit so this gains some attention

[wooden salmon]

i'm making 6 (5.75?) syirnge C/min and 15LC battery.min (3 usage). i guess it doesnt matter as the stock bills are always empty for me

[quartz coral]

Eh, not bad. I could improve it by actually doing imminent incursion ig.

[nova osprey]

v4 looks fine, it's much more stable than my wuling side

[trail mirage]

what instability

[lusty violet]

[marble yarrow]

bring back wulfgard

[nova osprey]

same as jas's image

[marble yarrow]

you dont generate bills!!

[nova osprey]

random dips in production

for no apparent reason

[lusty violet]

ok im going to replace all my belts on yazhen A

[trail mirage]

what about cupium ore

[marble yarrow]

🥀

[nova osprey]

same story there

everything is running unstably

[trail mirage]

then somethings wrong with your rigs

[nova osprey]

usage, not yield

[quartz coral]

Oh that's huge. Thanks!

[nova osprey]

the yield is fine

[trail mirage]

furnace prob clogging

what about refined

[nova osprey]

they're all dipping at the same time

[quartz coral]

my factory might be a mess, but it sure is raking in money

[umbral sparrow]

looking for a blueprint to maximise my usage of the the first outpost, I am pre quary(?) if that helps? been looking around the #1465229737642164386 but looks like most of those are too far ahead of where I currently am.

[quartz coral]

probably could get 35k or more once I actually do imminent incursion

[nova osprey]

are you asia?

[trail mirage]

NA

[trail mirage]

search up beginner

[umbral sparrow]

thanks Ill do that now

[nova osprey]

man this is tilting me

[quartz coral]

As an engineering major, I'm both too lazy to rebuild my factory from scratch and obsessed enough to somehow maximize the resource management in spite of the mess.

[nova osprey]

like overall i lose maybe 50 batteries a day or so

from the instability issues

[lusty violet]

do belts count in facility limit?

[somber snow]

i dont think its that hard,
lots of space with both the main AIC and outpost

[trail mirage]

copy blueprints and tweak it

[somber snow]

i think so

[lusty violet]

wth, then bridges are worth more or something

[quartz coral]

I have an idea to get me 4860 extra stock bills an hour