aic-factory

[true furnace]

Carbon yield powercreep is real

[bright zodiac]

how bout you? whats your whole wuling power? im around 3.8

[mighty yacht]

he turned on battery saver on all the buildings

[slim moat]

battery saver?

[nova osprey]

3.3k atm, but not running comps, have that section turned off

[mighty yacht]

its a joke

[marble yarrow]

yeah, HYDRO MINING IS THE KEY

[subtle vessel]

Can you use hydro mining on originium beds?

[bright zodiac]

but hydro originium is just... like 10power saving per site

[hushed blaze]

Yes.

[marble yarrow]

you pair sites

[subtle vessel]

Oh damn

[marble yarrow]

the overflow goes to 2 spots

[cerulean matrix]

how do u generate enough power in wuling? im pretty sure i got rigs on every originium site

[hushed blaze]

You still need water pump though

[cerulean matrix]

that gives power? :0

[prime pendant]

Mine only needs 1 sc Wuling battery to work 😎

[cerulean matrix]

i might be baka

[mighty yacht]

how do you pair that far away?

[calm scarab]

Well for high quality ori ore veins, you save overall 5 power only 😂. Every bit counts

[mighty yacht]

is that really less than 200m?

[sonic summit]

my failsave is 2 conduit and i got 2 set of them

[slate plume]

wait u can hydro farm originium ore?

[bright zodiac]

thats only giving you 60 power if you really do it

[nova osprey]

you can hydro farm on wuling side period

[hushed blaze]

Chugging all originium into thermal power

[graceful otter]

if you pair more than 3 now it could upgrade to higher rate in future tho

[calm scarab]

Its especially crucial for ferrium ore veins. Cuz you could have used only 10 power instead of 30 for mining 3 ferrium ore veins

[slate plume]

do u get more by that or nah

[prime pendant]

Huh that's actually pretty smart

[solid python]

I guess there's dumping regulations in Talos II

[cerulean matrix]

im pretty sure i am

[marble yarrow]

its not like its hard to modify it when that time arrives. you wont spend even more than 10 minutes

im saving power the whole patch. isnt that great

[hushed blaze]

Meanwhile

[cerulean matrix]

so i might be stupid but uh what makes water into power?

[prime pendant]

Do you want fish to be poisoned?????

[slim moat]

yes

[marble yarrow]

conduit. and sometimes, crazy work

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1482211226812416051/pipers.mp4?ex=69b771c6&is=69b62046&hm=0d85dae3feeb8c9948708bfa6f6617339e0c759ae72281f258cb20a32bc3050a&

[bright zodiac]

normal one need power, hydro do not

[shrewd knoll]

fish are the fish people

[nova osprey]

im going to do that and see what happens overnight, i do like the priority belts though, that way if an item fills up, the previous products can go into the depot as well

i haven't had any issues with the priority belts yet, been running them for over a day and no issues outside of the weird calculation/optimization errors that occur from time to time

[cerulean matrix]

oh. that doesnt save very much though

[shrewd knoll]

they call them fins in talos

[graceful otter]

flow, pressure?

[calm scarab]

Ikr? I want to dump them in swimming pools and spray at NPCs i don't like

[hushed blaze]

Someplace lake already blighted anyway-

[upper ibex]

wait u can use the hydro pump for other ores?

[mighty yacht]

dude built the keystone pipeline

[cerulean matrix]

nah just the way he said it made it seem like there was some kinda water generator

[bright zodiac]

realllllly ugly.... nope, there should be an even better optimization if using conduit

[nova osprey]

if you wire everything efficiently in the current patch with water, it saves about 115 power

[true furnace]

"FICSIT Incorporated Endfield Industries is cost-effective and efficient. We do not waste."

[crimson inlet]

is Yazhen A better than fluffed Jincao?

[sonic summit]

wait isnt the ferium is full and uses 20 with hydro and the 2 orinium just use mk 1 mining for 5 electric each ? you dont need to pair it esp for future proofing

[cerulean matrix]

doesnt that still cap u out around 2.5k?

[nova osprey]

for me no, it would be about 3.2k atm

[mighty yacht]

conduit is ofc better, but it takes up protocol cap

[nova osprey]

3.1-3.2k

[marble yarrow]

"future proofing" im not that lazy

[cerulean matrix]

thats so weird why am i stuck at 2k then

[hushed blaze]

Sadly there's no ametyst in wuling we can mine in

[sonic summit]

you got me

[subtle vessel]

Fangyi won't like me after I do this right outside her cith walls

[nova osprey]

yeah you're going to have to rewire all your drills next patch

[delicate seal]

can someone with math knowledge check me on this

[marble yarrow]

gives me playable content? im in

[nova osprey]

repipe*

[shrewd knoll]

just ask every single AI available

they know math

[nova osprey]

bet

[calm scarab]

Fluffed jincao & thorny yazhen are like special drops, they will always win against factory made items.

[delicate seal]

if each pipe can carry 2 units water/s, does that mean it's at max capacity at 2 pumps/pipe?

[true furnace]

Yes

[calm scarab]

In terms of healing efficiencies

[prime pendant]

This all looks pretty cool with new mining rigs and power saving
But my base already only needs one battery to work so i should be good for now
Till next update ig

[bright zodiac]

honestly.....

for real, most of them fail, if your math isnt simple

[crimson inlet]

in terms of quantity though?

since we are farming those manually

[nova osprey]

you have enough if you farm manually

[lofty hedge]

theres only corium in

[bright zodiac]

AI blunder, so by any means, do not trust AI math 100%

[lofty hedge]

qingbo stockade right

[subtle vessel]

I pick them up whenever I see them

[marble yarrow]

yeah if you use SC its already ok with 3400 power. im just stretching my LC/HC stocks

[nova osprey]

yes

[prime pendant]

Imma still use the battery PWN contraption tho
More batteries for trading

[mint idol]

its insane how good it feels to 'finish' my updated 1.1 factory for almost max efficiency

[crimson inlet]

I mean, I got 130 Jincao infusion...

[calm scarab]

Factory made items will win, just sacrificing that slightly better healing efficiency for mass production.

[subtle vessel]

Is there smth like a docu about PWN I can read so I know how to config it to my current factory's power?

[prime pendant]

Yeb yeb
I just need the stupid market to refill it's stocks to trade the 1600 batteries
So close to lvl 3 😔

[delicate seal]

does that mean one pump can supply enough water for 2 yazhen planters at without dropping efficiency?

[nova osprey]

you run out the v4 outposts btw? im thinking of just slowing down trades since there doesn't seem to be a huge point atm

[mint idol]

You don’t need that much healing unless you’re really that lazy with dodging

[crimson inlet]

aight, I wish we can mass produce atk+ items...

[true furnace]

Yes

[bright zodiac]

i rather drink jincaO tea, no need for premium items

[nova osprey]

nice edit

[true furnace]

*my bad, I thought I read 2 pumps

[subtle vessel]

Mass plant redjade then have a meat farm by zipping across v4/wuling

[nova osprey]

all good, i do the same lmao

[prime pendant]

@subtle vessel a calculator but hopefully it helps

[nova osprey]

and edit the exact same way 🤣

[calm scarab]

Eh the topic was about item's perfomance

[marble yarrow]

yeah, so i transfer the HCs to wuling. once in a while while i dont have nothing to do

[bright zodiac]

i am fine zipping around but, u have to get down is what makes me dont want to do it

[crimson inlet]

this is why I advocate for burdenbeast farms to be made as livestock

[marble yarrow]

also power saving tip. dont use extra reactors for med liquid. integrate them into your SC battery

[subtle vessel]

Thanks, I'll look into it when I wake up

[nova osprey]

so you do trade enough to run the outposts dry then

[prime pendant]

Have a good sleep

[nova osprey]

already doing that , saving myself a good 100 power already

[marble yarrow]

yeah, im like drying the outpost, and making extra 7.5k battery everyday

[subtle vessel]

No need to pick it up, just activate the cannons by zipping across them which kills the beasts. The dropped items would be sent to your mail eventually on the next day

[nova osprey]

oh damn, far more than enough to transfer and use

[slim moat]

isnt it better just to make both med types?

[nova osprey]

even if you use 3/min

[true furnace]

good tip
-# this was me piping all that crap past 11pm

[lofty hedge]

yeah i unlcoked next wuling aic upgrade

[marble yarrow]

cant sell jincao A anyway

[lofty hedge]

time to upgrade everything

[bright zodiac]

thats the big 100 power gain, unfortunately i already have good looking modular meds setup, so its kinda too seperate

[digital bramble]

These pairings will stop working with full efficiency. A single saturated line using 2 pumps can provide enough water to handle 6 pure nodes. These work because nodes aren't all pure yet... but... I would suggest the 6 ferrium all on their own, the 3 2 sites all linked together, and unless you want to do cross-regional lines, you do the 5's on their own. Cross regional, you can scrape a BIT more efficiency by doing true 6 per line with one remainder, but it would be an immense pain in the ass in terms of logistics to scrape an extra 10 power at most.

[prime pendant]

Quick advice for you all
If you're using 1 storage space for 2 different items, it could get clogged for absolutely no reason
Never store 2 different items in the same storage unit or whatever it's called

[slim moat]

yeah, but what about C

[nova osprey]

you can if you want to, either way your cuprium meds will need to be yazhen, your ferrium ones can be either or

[nova osprey]

both jincao and yazhen work, doesn't matter

[marble yarrow]

its not like they become high purity tomorrow

i have 40 full days to let it run. and it doesnt take too much time to reconfigure.

i dont take "future proofing" as excuses

[slim moat]

I mean use the A reactors to do C material as well

[bright zodiac]

i tried to not pick it up, and they dont send it to me

i know they sent stuff to mail, but its mostly only the white fragments or chest on the ground that i didnt pickup

[crimson inlet]

I have a question, when you're making 2 items in a reactor, does it consume 2 water?

[mighty yacht]

thats pretty smart, i was wondering how you got the extra port, but then i forgot im wasting it by bridging the sewage to the other reactor

[subtle vessel]

Thank, I spent my whole Saturday night (it's now 1pm and I haven't slept) making my Wuling base and I realized I forgot to set it to use the new batts so that's probably gonna shut down when I wake up

[nova osprey]

oh i think you're misunderstanding, they're using the xiranite liquid reactors to make medicine also

[prime pendant]

Wish they had made it possible to trade something we've been making in valley, in wuling 😮‍💨
Would've made things easier

[nova osprey]

there's not enough slots for both medicine types inside of a xiranite liquid crucible

[subtle vessel]

Weird, it works for me

[crimson inlet]

add player-driven market that is usable

[shrewd sigil]

chat whats wrong

[nova osprey]

essentially it looks like this

[bright zodiac]

i really hate the dijiang open backpack, switch region 2click and wait animation 1more click, and repeat.

also they block all macro program. rip dev

[shrewd sigil]

oh wrong button

[lofty hedge]

theres only 8 nodes for cuprium?

[mighty yacht]

you're in belt mode?

[nova osprey]

yes

[graceful otter]

belt outside of base?

[lofty hedge]

oh so u can make setup

[mighty yacht]

8 nodes?

[lofty hedge]

without needing to craft

[mighty yacht]

i thought theres only 6

[subtle vessel]

Try starting from the pipe, not on the empty space

[prime pendant]

Lmaooo yeah i feel you
I have removed everything from both bases and started from scratch, took me 2 days
And when i powered it up i realised all refiners and planters are set to Water mode 🥲
It was frustrating to see so i just went to sleep and left my base inactive
But i finally fixed it all today 🔥🔥

[lofty hedge]

since they give u 8

[nova osprey]

yes, but keep in mind you can also use hydro rigs for any wuling mining node currently

[pulsar cypress]

6 near base river, 2 at the bottom west..

[lofty hedge]

iik

[mighty yacht]

nvm, i cant count

[lofty hedge]

i just need to start out

cuprium

to make more

[mighty yacht]

im tweaking rn

[lofty hedge]

[mighty yacht]

its 1:30am

[marble yarrow]

i also used only 2 pumps for this

[prime pendant]

So real
Like why do we have to wait 3 seconds to switch? I can literally see the backpack in the background already switched to Wuling, just let me use it 😭

[nova osprey]

i wish priority ports worked for pipes smh, but priority belts atm might just be a bug

[odd grove]

Roleplay

Immersion

[prime pendant]

That immersion wastes precious time 😔

[marble yarrow]

2 pumps for 8 cuprium

[odd grove]

Holy long ass pipes

[mighty yacht]

i thought 1 pump can power 2 high purity

[atomic fiber]

how many high and low purity do we have again?

[prime pendant]

Does any rig ever gets low on water?

[prime pendant]

Huh i thought 3

[atomic fiber]

1 pump can power 3 high

[marble yarrow]

3 high
5 low

[mighty yacht]

ic

[prime pendant]

Oh

[marble yarrow]

so 1 pump is for 3 high
1 pump for up to 6 low

[atomic fiber]

interesting

[prime pendant]

How much power does the pump use again?

[marble yarrow]

10

[prime pendant]

Bruh it's just 10 extra power 😭

[marble yarrow]

oh its 4 high 4 low

[mighty yacht]

it sucks that the 3 new regional levels dont increase copium purity

[marble yarrow]

every power saves of my PWM

[vapid granite]

Is this even helpful? Dont we like not even get most mining sights to even make use of this?

[marble yarrow]

1 pump for 3 high

1 pump for 1 high 4 low

[mint idol]

its how you evolve your factory

[odd grove]

Ykno you can get a pump nearby those 2 mining rigs right

[atomic fiber]

that is for making xiranite

[mighty yacht]

thats like the most needed upgrade

[odd grove]

Instead of running long pipes

[marble yarrow]

i dont want to use extra power when i have extra water

[lofty hedge]

how many water pumps can power #? hydro drills?

[marble yarrow]

im all in on efficiency

[nova osprey]

1 hydro pump powers 60/min ore

[mighty yacht]

getting charged 50 cents per kwh i see😂

[vapid granite]

ehh wait i forgot how to make xirinite don't you need more Ferriumm

[pulsar cypress]

Its the most important, the machine to make most important materials for wuling products..

[lofty hedge]

so 6 drills

[prime pendant]

Big W ngl

[lofty hedge]

maybe

[nova osprey]

low purity yes

high purity is 20/min

[lofty hedge]

oh

so i need like

3

for futureproofing

[nova osprey]

for future proofing yes

[pulsar cypress]

Xyranite only can be make by forge and plants.. No ore..

[marble yarrow]

i've laid pipes farther than you could imagine lmao

[odd grove]

Sound like an asian parent "i dont wsnt to waste power on a dishwasher when i can wash it by hand"

[prime pendant]

OMFG

[quaint rain]

how do i get more exp? i think ive laid every mining rig and still at lvl 7

[waxen aurora]

upgrade the environment monitor terminal

[graceful otter]

click rdm

[mighty yacht]

upgrade recycle stations, stock depot, and outpost

[vestal tiger]

Upgrade the depot node, environment, and recycling station

[marble yarrow]

depot node lv 3
stock lv 3
environtment monitoring lv3
owls max upgrade

[vestal tiger]

And the shop

[half heron]

lvl 3 stock redistributor + depot node + environmental monitoring center + outpost

[quaint rain]

oh right the stock alright tysm

[pulsar cypress]

Envi terminal, depot nodes, recycle nodes..
Upgrade em all to max..

[marble yarrow]

(lvl9 fuckin useless)

[prime pendant]

Hmmm did you do the tower defense game?

[nova osprey]

cuprium still shows on v4 side aic report.. wonder if we'll get a cuprium expansion for v4 at some point @.@

[nova osprey]

100%

[thick hemlock]

when the percentage gets to 100% is that good or bad

[mighty yacht]

thats tech, i didnt know you could use the splitters/ bridges as a resting point. Ive been using water tanks this whole time

[lofty hedge]

all 3 converging into 1 pipeline is fine right?

[quaint rain]

yeah

[lone pebble]

it`s gona go BOOOM 🙂 its fine

[thick hemlock]

😭😭

what do you mean

[nova osprey]

no

[pulsar cypress]

Now make one that goes from rice farm at North west to corner of stockade South east..

[nova osprey]

2 pumps/pipe max

[prime pendant]

That's bad
Keep the percentage away from 100%

[thick hemlock]

how do i stop it

[marble yarrow]

if it goes 0%, whole factory doesnt work.

if it is at 100%, then you have so much power reserve and wont die down easily

[lone pebble]

100% mean factory working at 100%! when it gets to 0% its a problem !

[nova osprey]

100% is good not bad lol

[prime pendant]

Xd i was just kidding sorry
When it gets 0% means no power, everything will shut down
100% is good

[nova osprey]

it's your reserve power

[lofty hedge]

3 pumps into 1 tank -> splitter into 2 lanes?

[thick hemlock]

ohh i was confused

thank you!

[lofty hedge]

tbh

[prime pendant]

Nppp

[lofty hedge]

ima just add 4 pumps

fuck this

[marble yarrow]

i have another segment from jingyu to my previous vid lmao

[odd grove]

Thats your battery

[nova osprey]

converger max flowrate is 2 as well, so also no

[mint idol]

If your factory stays at 100% power you’re wasting resources

[odd grove]

NANDE!?

[lofty hedge]

im adding 4 pumps

problem solved

[nova osprey]

i mean technically true lol

[prime pendant]

Whats all these storages for?

[nova osprey]

but if they're asking about how power works i doubt they've done enough factory for it to matter yet

[pulsar cypress]

In simple term, assume that 100% is ur factory powerbank..
Ur back up energy..
If its depleted, then u have energy supply problem..

[vestal tiger]

It's your battery level.
Your factory has something like a 10000 mAh powerbank
If you spend too much power(when the numbers become red), the factory uses the powerbank to charge.

[marble yarrow]

pre-1.1 resource hoarding

[fluid fog]

Doing Manifold Pipe will resulting to weird physics.

[vestal tiger]

I have about 20 tanks full of xiranite I'm struggling to figure out how to feed into the reactor crucible

From 1.0

Liquid xiranite

[mighty yacht]

is that liq xir or yah?

[fluid fog]

at the end of pipe will always get clogged even the throughput is enough to sustain it.

[prime pendant]

Ngl that's super fucking smart
I should've done the same...
What resource you saved the most?

[pulsar cypress]

Its look pretty good to be used as factory walls..

[nova osprey]

connect them in series then dump into crucible

[marble yarrow]

dense originium at 150k
battery, xiranites at 70k

[prime pendant]

Storages CAN save that much???

Nicees

[odd grove]

I bottled them up and stash em already so...

[nova osprey]

sum total? like + depot?

[marble yarrow]

yea

also i stored 40k liquid xiranite on the pool

[nova osprey]

[marble yarrow]

and i pulled it in 1.1

[prime pendant]

Why does your base look insanely longer than usual

[odd grove]

Is this enough xiarinit for you Fangyi?

[vale topaz]

anyone heavily utilizing converger belt / pipe ?
so far, never using them, or no idea what case can benefit from using those convergers.

[nova osprey]

converger pipe yes, belt no

[marble yarrow]

I CREATED PIPING FROM BASE TO 40K POOL AND IT DOESNT ALLOW SEWAGE TO BE DUMPED LMAO

[mighty yacht]

never thought i'd meet a real negative sanity player

[odd grove]

Idk field of view?

[vale topaz]

pipe ? what is the example ?

[frigid scarab]

Does anyone use only 1 thermal for 2 SC battery lines, 1 Yazhen A and 50% Yazhen C without scrapping their ziplines? If I shutdown gear components and ramp up full battery lines I'm short 50 ish power.

[prime pendant]

I WAS WONDERING WHY THAT AREA HAD LIQUID XIRANITE
Omg bro you're thinking outside the box fr

[odd grove]

[nova osprey]

pipes flow at 2/s, which is two pumps worth or 4 machine inputs/outputs worth

[analog elbow]

Bitch

You're here eh

[fluid fog]

maybe if the capacity of pipe is one, it bottlenecks the throughput of pipe resulting to get clogged.

[digital bramble]

im annoyed that because bridges, splitters and mergers count as buildings, and because of building limits, its actually more efficient for me to build a crap ton of protocol stashes burning energy then it is for me belt back to the AIC because I'd have to make so many bridges it would burn more buildings...

[nova osprey]

so converge two pumps onto one line to make a max capacity pupe

[odd grove]

No fkin shit

[prime pendant]

How much is that?

[analog elbow]

I had to stash mine because my building limit

[odd grove]

I forgor like 2.5k?

[marble yarrow]

you reached 288 also? lmao

[prime pendant]

Hmmm wouldn't 5 powered off liquid tanks would've saved more space?

[analog elbow]

I'll be using 2 LC wuling as power atm

[lofty hedge]

so i converged 2 pumps to a tank, and i just split this between 3 nodes?

[vale topaz]

works for sewage ? converge 2 sewage output into 1 water treatment ?
i thought water treatment is 1 / sec

[nova osprey]

oh you meant like that? split that between 6 nodes not 3

[marble yarrow]

sadly water treatment is 0.5/s

[nova osprey]

yeap

[nova osprey]

wait no

[mighty yacht]

they gave us 1080 yield in valley 4 and said thats enough

[lofty hedge]

i have 4 pumps to 2 tanks 😨

[prime pendant]

Holyyy

[odd grove]

Yeah well you cant swim in tanks

[lofty hedge]

future proofing better ngl

[analog elbow]

Yeah i tried making it very compact it uses too many Bridges

[prime pendant]

Omg so everyone been preparing for 1.1
When i was jumping around like an idiot happy that i "collected all chests"

[nova osprey]

i thought you said 2 sewage to 1 xircon factory

[analog elbow]

Who gives a fk about V4. I'm talking about Wuling

[pulsar cypress]

Water supply from 2 pump..

[prime pendant]

Lmao good point
Yeah the pool looks much cooler

[lofty hedge]

how do ii split water 3 ways evenly even

[nova osprey]

just use one splitter

[lofty hedge]

oh yeah

true

[odd grove]

Bro forgot a splitter is a 4 way

[analog elbow]

Ah btw my Core also has tons of Stashes full of LC

I hit max depot already from those alone. So i can't really touch my Sub AIC

Or the batteries will get destroyed due to Max Depot Storage

[lofty hedge]

i did

[prime pendant]

Omlll, do you have space left to build anything?

[analog elbow]

Well before 1.1 it's very smol

So i just decided to Protocol stash every empty spaces

[prime pendant]

Smart ngl

Can i start doing that now in 1.1?

[analog elbow]

no

[nova osprey]

i would just burn out ngl

[prime pendant]

oh ☹️

[analog elbow]

I mean i even stock up 10M Stock bills before update

[prime pendant]

Dem that's pretty cool ngl

[lofty hedge]

yeah 4 pumps per mining spot sounds like enough

🧩

[pulsar cypress]

4 pump is too much.. 2 pump usually more than enough..

[crimson inlet]

with harunachan's advice on reactors

[fluid fog]

keep posting this so people aware about pumps

[nova osprey]

nice

saves essentially 50 power

[mighty yacht]

if only more buildings let you do this

i wish they let us switch the output and input sides

[analog elbow]

2 Fluid Pumps. take it or leave it

[mighty yacht]

it'd make my life so much easier

[lofty hedge]

how much power does fluid punp take?

[crimson inlet]

harunachan also gave this

[frigid scarab]

Thank you, this was exactly the info I needed.

[fluid fog]

if the nodes is 6 in the area, yeah exactly. even its low yield, its a future proof when all nodes is on high yields.

[analog elbow]

indeed

i like how they made Hydro Mining requires no power tho

only water. i guess they like being "Wet"

[crimson inlet]

I love capitalism

[fluid fog]

technically, water can be source of energy at the same time, to mine cuprium which is basically copper irl.

[wispy grove]

The dedication just to reduce 1 battery/min😌

[digital bramble]

a merger an inlet and a outlet and a splitter is not more building efficient then 2 inlets, and 2 outlets, which i just realized, which, is kind of stupid...

[slim moat]

its less space though

[digital bramble]

i guess im just really space efficient because im running out of buildings long before i run out of space.

[fluid fog]

I just dont mind not space efficient, I still have alot of space to build.

[marble yarrow]

4 forge 4 planter

[upper fiber]

so little space left after cramming everything on PAC

[pulsar cypress]

Me just put 1 pump for 3 mines..
Save efforts to checking which ore upgraded later..

Coz if minmaxing water, when ore upgraded then some of the drills will stop mining coz lack water distribution..
Need to check each mine node one by one to know which one..
Then re-adjust em all.

[fluid fog]

10 pump vs each Rig needs like 10 or 20

so yeah.

[marble yarrow]

also you dont need to futureproof jingyu. its max already

so jingyu mines can do 2 pumps 7 mines

if minerals get updated in wuling and qingbo, it only needs you to config and spend a few minutes. just add a pump and pipes are already built so...

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Just like me said..
It doesn't matter if u will reconfigure again later..
Im lazy so just place 1 for 3 and leave it for eternity..

Properly placed design.. °-°)b

[hollow crest]

anyone know why SC is not consistent 12/m? I checked every possible source and it's not clogging anything

[odd grove]

Somethings wrong with your xiarinite usage

[fluid fog]

you're not making any component right?

[hollow crest]

yea

this is the xircon line for me

[pulsar cypress]

Try sending top view of the production.
Also check facility that goes Zzz, coz it means sometimes it not working/producing.

[fluid fog]

Possible piping from Cuprium since they tend to over produce when Server Desync

[graceful otter]

sewage clog?

[hollow crest]

server desync

[fluid fog]

where is your copruim facility?

[hollow crest]

sewage not clog

[hollow crest]

all used to make syringe

I fail to see any clog also

[delicate seal]

is a single reactor crucible enough to make xircon effluent if i pipe in sewage, water and xiranite

[hollow crest]

need 2

[delicate seal]

or do i need to separately pump in liquid xiranite

[fluid fog]

how many stored in your conduit to xircon

there

[graceful otter]

make 1 sewage per 2 reactors instead

[hollow crest]

so 4 sewage from the cuprium I used 2 for the 2 xircon then 2 to treatment

cuz I used the refund from the xircon to feed the remaining

[fluid fog]

no no, not in depot, the piping line I was talking about

[hollow crest]

oh this?

damn maybe this is the issue

[fluid fog]

yeah once you log out then server desync in tends to clogged there,

[hollow crest]

it shouldnt be clogged like this wth

[fluid fog]

in the 1st place it should not be clogged

yeah

[hollow crest]

desynced gg

aight tks, that solves the issue I was facing, nothing I can do about it ig

[fluid fog]

so far no better solution to always check and try different approach

[delicate seal]

are conduit inlets and fluid pumps 1:1

[past crow]

For the conduits, has anyone checked the output?

[pulsar cypress]

Can 2 pump for 1 inlet.

[delicate seal]

and it'll output the same as 2 normal pumps from the outlet?

[ancient pier]

heck yea

[odd grove]

REALLY?

[pulsar cypress]

Outlet can supply 2 normal pump water yess..
Just check at the inlet and outlet it say 2 unit

[odd grove]

Well shieeet i couldve saved some relay points

[pulsar cypress]

And some inlet outlet.. °-°)b

[odd grove]

Don care bout that, i crafted 100 of each

[pulsar cypress]

[fluid fog]

I do this so less space needed XD

though will rework of it once HC release.

[obtuse hill]

anyone know the best blueprint for valley 4

[hollow crest]

lol when I logged in for abit it instantly stabilized

[obtuse hill]

and current wulling

[fluid fog]

yeah cause you actually rendering it and report to the server in correct way

[hollow crest]

guess Ill give up optimizing more

[delicate seal]

for yazhen A do i have to use cuprium bottle yazhen or can it be like ferrium

[lofty hedge]

is fully hydrodrilling every ore in wuling/jingyu more power efficient?

[hollow crest]

must be copium bottle

[pulsar cypress]

*any unstable production is the pipe to blame..

[delicate seal]

dammit okay then

[fluid fog]

I think, in some recipe, its produce like 0.005 more, thats why its overproducing.

[delicate seal]

does that mean the max you can get out of cuprium rn is 6/min yazhen + 3/min component?

whatever the number is that's half efficiency components

[fluid fog]

well yeah if you don't maximize making SC

[delicate seal]

ah dammit i forgot batteries.....

[odd grove]

Its always yahzeen this yahzeen that, what about have jincao drinks huh?

[fluid fog]

unfortunately no Jincao Drinks A

to sell in bills

[odd grove]

Just sell the small ones

[fluid fog]

well you could.

[lofty hedge]

is fully hydrodrilling every ore in wuling/jingyu more power efficient?

[odd grove]

People need to drink energy drink

Its monster

[fluid fog]

ahahahaha

[marble yarrow]

6/min yazhen doesnt allow any component

[fluid fog]

donno, it is worth to do vs efficiency? maybe if you starting Wuling but already build rigs is another issue.

[pulsar cypress]

Yess..

[lofty hedge]

it is

[marble yarrow]

component material ratios for wuling 1.1 (note: meta-storage ferrium)

[lofty hedge]

u save 20 power per 3 hydrodrills

[fluid fog]

yeah but do some people have a time? vs how many energy will save.

to replace hydrorigs

[marble yarrow]

it wouldnt take you an hour to convert all of wuling

[fluid fog]

then its few mins then I guess its worth.

[pulsar cypress]

Im just doing it while passing by..
And it looks better to see than the normal rig.. °-°)b

[marble yarrow]

plus its just another AIC gameplay thing

[eternal wyvern]

Do ppl not move batteries from valley for a better production?

[odd grove]

Nop

[marble yarrow]

using another battery doesnt mean your production improve. its just makes you not consume wuling battery

[pulsar cypress]

If u wanna do the hassle feel free..
Im lazy so never to manual transfer..

[fluid fog]

fair, but I still stick with former rigs, can't spend alot of time on playing AIC due to my thesis.

[eternal wyvern]

But not consuming wuling batteries you get to do a different setup that produces more gear components

[marble yarrow]

you can just process 1 spot a day

it doesnt take time

[ornate sorrel]

have anyone figured out whats the most compact looking battery production is gonna look like? seems like i can compress my V2 Battery production a little more but it'll require me putting Water treatment/water inlets somewhere in the depths of the production lines for maximized overlap of pipe and conveyor LOL

[marble yarrow]

it doesnt matter. as long as you have resources

[cobalt oriole]

Final version of battery farm. Removes 1 bus depot node and 2 sets of conduit

[cobalt oriole]

I currently figured out a 36 x 58 Wuling sc batt setup

[marble yarrow]

wait why are you using both SC and LC

[eternal wyvern]

Wdym it doesnt matter

[ornate sorrel]

can i have a lo`ok

[cobalt oriole]

@ornate sorrel

[nocturne stag]

why not, 5k power gen

[hushed blaze]

Cause power usage is over 3.2k now 🔥

[fluid fog]

If this works, Am gonna build alot of Sewage tank just to get not hit by Desynced server AHAHAHAHA

[marble yarrow]

REAL?

[hushed blaze]

Well, almost.

[ornate sorrel]

mine's 39x25 per 6 batter lol

[pulsar cypress]

Outlet - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - facilities..

[cobalt oriole]

I could make it thinner tbh its only that thick cos of the battery input lines

[hushed blaze]

I still even make HC valley and SC valley

[digital bramble]

woot! should have stopped buying before expansion, i was dumb.

[crimson inlet]

I'm wondering if we can just spam conduits from AIC to every deposit in Wuling...

[vapid granite]

ugh they just want to add so many new steps

[hushed blaze]

[digital bramble]

yes you can

[marble yarrow]

im the battery god

[crimson inlet]

sweet, the river will be gone

[marble yarrow]

lots of HC and LC to use

[delicate seal]

whats the max prod rate on cuprium parts? is it 120/min?

[digital bramble]

it is currently

[vapid granite]

Bro does not make any money

[marble yarrow]

so true

[fluid fog]

rookie numbers

[marble yarrow]

im just lazy to transfer my valley batteries

oh maybe i can transfer now

[fluid fog]

ahh okay

I just trade mine, cause I dont like getting hit max depot

u know what, I should also manually transfer it.

[cobalt oriole]

Bruh I stopped making batteries for an hour and immediately gain infinite xiranite

Guess thats going into component savings

[fluid fog]

120/m is alot so yeah

[true furnace]

What did y'all do with the extra sandleaf powder lines from producing SC Wuling batteries

Or you just let the shredders output 2 belts of the stuff?

[fluid fog]

well nothing. its just rotten there.

[marble yarrow]

i dont let a full sandleaf to enter the shredding

[fluid fog]

waiting to feed next update.

[marble yarrow]

or just let it clog itself and just output 2 belts

[somber snow]

i turn them into carbon powder, then i transfer them to valley 4

[true furnace]

Like a 20/m sandleaf belt?

[vapid granite]

Can i add a splitter here? Im not in my AIC so it wontt auto make me

[marble yarrow]

yeah, i shred 20/min and bring back 1/3 of a sandleaf to depot

[serene geyser]

press z and select splitter

[true furnace]

I see, I'll do that as well

[vapid granite]

One water pump can only support up to two facilities right?

[serene geyser]

3

[delicate seal]

also what's the max ore yields rn

[vapid granite]

is that just for ore rigs or for every facility, i was sure it was 2

[serene geyser]

480 ori
120 copium
90 ferrium

[marble yarrow]

miners work every 3 seconds or every 6 seconds.

[cobalt oriole]

Stock the Sandleaf powder for WL deliveries

Until they cap again

Repeat ad infinitum

[serene geyser]

ah, I thought we still on ore page, not sure about facilities

[vapid granite]

why this not working

[marble yarrow]

wrong orientation

of the splitter

rotate it clockwise once

the small line on the cross should be on your source pipe

(i dont even know how you did piping in the whole of 1.0 😭 )

[upper fiber]

just piping w/o splitter is doable on 1.0

[marble yarrow]

how do you distribute 1 pump to 2 facilities

[crimson inlet]

Operation: River Glory is greenlit

[marble yarrow]

or im dumb

[fluid fog]

ohh this one actually work, like in Satisfactory piping...

well see about it

[crimson inlet]

the purpose of this is to spam conduits to reduce xirenite pylons for only ziplines

it may reduce or add more to the protocol capacity

[calm scarab]

3 high quality veins

[vapid granite]

I like how a conduit unit works on a bridge

[sudden night]

What's the max production cap for Originium rn?

[fluid fog]

in Wuling right now?

[calm scarab]

480 ori

[sudden night]

Yes

Oh god

[fluid fog]

there

[sudden night]

And with meta transfer?

[fluid fog]

nope

raw 480/m

[sudden night]

• how much will it increase if I get Originium through meta transfer?

[marble yarrow]

dont. you arent originium-limited in wuling

[fluid fog]

if you meta transfer the ore 25/m but if you transfer the Dense Ori from V4 its also 25/m but thats equivalent of 50/m ori ore

[marble yarrow]

unless you are planning to do sc valley battery in wuling

[sudden night]

I think the blueprint I copying did something wrong

[marble yarrow]

since there would be excess 30/min of ferrium if you dont like to use it for yazhen/jincao C

[fluid fog]

yeah

[marble yarrow]

12/min of SC wuling is exactly 480/min of originium

[sudden night]

Idk what the blueprint has done wrong tbf

[worldly void]

can you not trade jincao tea to outpost

[sudden night]

But that does not look normal

[marble yarrow]

yeah lmao why is it 510/min of originium

[marble yarrow]

true

[sudden night]

Same question

[marble yarrow]

we dont know tho

[calm scarab]

Level 3 outpost

[serene geyser]

how much batteries you'd save by edging energy?

[worldly void]

only syringe A

[fluid fog]

I think I can probably solve the sewage clogged problem but I will try this tom.

[lone plover]

What do I do with the 30/min of Ferrium (55/min with transfer) Ferrium left over with the new flow?

[marble yarrow]

mustve been the wind

[sudden night]

Same question...

[fluid fog]

lets see what result for now.

[marble yarrow]

yazhen/jincao C, 2.75/MINUTE

[sudden night]

I need a proper blueprint

[lone plover]

Yeah how do I make it so that when it runs dry the battery production doesn't slow

[sudden night]

I think reducing some of the depots won't hurt then?

[marble yarrow]

wait i have a bp for 55

[calm scarab]

Oh sry wrong info my bad, cannot sell jincao tea

[marble yarrow]

30 ore + 25 (meta transfer) ferrium

[calm scarab]

Or turn it into another output, manual transfer once in a while.

[lone plover]

TY
how does the splitter/converger logic work?

[marble yarrow]

that i wont like to do

ive done perfect 115/min throughout 1.0

[sudden night]

I have Regional Developement level 7
Is 360/min Originium the limit for that level?

[vale topaz]

i'm not sure why use converger for that.....

[calm scarab]

Transfer is technically 30/min with 10min downtime. Means the inventory loses stock 300 per hour

[marble yarrow]

the splitter on the ferrium (not ore) brings back 5/min to the front of the depot, stealing the spot, so from 30/min it staggers to 25/min

[calm scarab]

Thats where you must occasionally manual transfer

[lone plover]

I think u should be 420 at level 7 and 480 at level 8

[soft python]

do you guys already have an updated wuling base blueprint?

[vale topaz]

owh ok.
i just wonder if there is a situation which force or increase factory effectiveness with utilizing converger

[sudden night]

Now that's weird for me

[worldly void]

so what do we do with metastorage and excess ferrium now

[umbral meadow]

best feeling ever

[marble yarrow]

this is how my factory goes

having excess funds mean i can store more SC and not sell a few

[smoky eagle]

what are these 2 doing...

[tired parcel]

Sabotaging fr

[slim moat]

is it worth shipping refined cupurium back into depot?

[marble yarrow]

if you are doing the processing elsewhere, why not

[fluid fog]

far away area yeah,

[hushed blaze]

Oh well, it blew up before

[fluid fog]

or you could save cuprium parts for buildings like conduit need to construct.

[vapid granite]

So how many facilities can a water pump power? 2 or 3?

I was told 2 last version but now im hearing 3

[fluid fog]

hydro rigs?

here

[marble yarrow]

you're just confused for miners vs production facilities

most production facilities process 1 water every 2 seconds so 0.5/s, which take half of a pump

for the mining rigs, its different

high purity uses 1 water every 3 seconds
low purity uses 1 water every 6 seconds

[serene geyser]

wait how much water like for example copium forging wants?

[marble yarrow]

effectively 1 pump can be provided for 3 high purity nodes

[marble yarrow]

0.5/s since 1 every 2s

[serene geyser]

[marble yarrow]

so half of a pump

[serene geyser]

I gave every facility 2x water then ig

[marble yarrow]

do you guys even look at it

[fluid fog]

1 pump produce 1/s water

yeah

[serene geyser]

so much pumps

[vapid granite]

i dont thave the energy to remember this

Il just 2 pipe every 2 facilities to be safe

[nova osprey]

if you're hearing 3, it's only for hydro rigs

well, high purity ones anyways

[marble yarrow]

just put 1 pump for 3 hydro mining rigs so its easy to remember

[serene geyser]

facilities want 0.5 water/s, pump makes 1 water/s, pipe could transfer 2 water/s

[fluid fog]

its like I can't remember 2 - 1 = 1 XD

[hushed blaze]

If you feel it's not enough water to produce cuprium just use bottle 👀

[steel shell]

5 Head Maths

[serene geyser]

just combine 2 pumps into 1 pipe and transfer it to 4 facilities

[steel shell]

people already thinking of minmaxing the facility

[fluid fog]

or just refer this if you really don't like to remember.

[nova osprey]

always has been

[ruby sorrel]

that's not minmaxing it's just keeping things functional

[fluid fog]

oh boi.... Factorio players will do anything to do the BEST SCENARIO of minmaxing.

[tired parcel]

Thats minmaxin trust me

[steel shell]

using minimum facilities to maximize efficiency is minmax in my dictionary

[nova osprey]

it is minmaxing, it's just not a complicated minmax

[steel shell]

If we're just talking about functionality, people wouldnt have bothered with 1 pump to 2 facilities

and just do 1:1

[vapid granite]

1 pump for 3 hydro rigs

1 pump for 2 facilitlies

✅

[fluid fog]

true

[pulsar steeple]

What can't the water pump power

[outer bramble]

So this one pipe is not enough for 4 refining unit?

[ruby sorrel]

sure also put more belts into one machine while they're at it ig

[tired parcel]

One main best with only 2 facies

[outer bramble]

🤔

[marble yarrow]

its ok, but you need the first 2 facilities to accumulate water.

also the source pipe must be supplied with 2 pumps

this is a safer way to divide water

[steel shell]

If u add source 2 pumps and add converger to the source pipe, it can

[marble yarrow]

symmetrical branching

[fluid fog]

in technical term, water pump should not be powering anything, but Hydro Rigs is special. They get power from Water.

[serene geyser]

pipe could only fit 2 pumps of water

[outer bramble]

dammit pipe throughput

🫠

[slim moat]

whats the densest possible cupurium refiner setup

[steel shell]

ur pipe might as well break at that point

[outer bramble]

pipe is belt in disguise right?

[serene geyser]

my internet laggin or you one step ahead of this chat?

[marble yarrow]

joseph joestar ahh moment

[fluid fog]

ahahahaha

I know what is your next move.

[tired parcel]

Why not do this?

Using some of the sewage from the refinement and cycle

[marble yarrow]

preference exists

[tired parcel]

[marble yarrow]

color grouped lmao

[tired parcel]

I thought they were mimnaxin

[fluid fog]

yeah I prefer not including everything in one space.

[marble yarrow]

cuprium zone

[tired parcel]

I'm today years old , I didn't know the pipe could go over depot

[fluid fog]

yeah, people do. but not all people.

[marble yarrow]

theyre a good path lmaoo

RIP

[tired parcel]

It's fine i use less pipes nowadays

XD

[vapid fog]

how to do defense for wuling lvl 3?

[tired parcel]

The flame thrower, just put it in front of the main subject, then use the pink slowing cannon

[marble yarrow]

minimum use the violet gas and the new tower that pushes back, for 3 lanes

[fluid fog]

huh.. I just spam slow, the new turrets along the way of enemy

[marble yarrow]

the enemies have no teleporting shi

so you slow and just push them back

[tired parcel]

They were grouped so flames and aoe does the job

[steel shell]

I found a video on youtube and succeed using that strat

[tired parcel]

Edging ahh defense

[steel shell]

let me find the link

[marble yarrow]

lmao they look funny and cant pass

[fluid fog]

nothing really complicated in new defense

actually level 2 is more complicated than level 3

[steel shell]

https://youtu.be/vZ2bgbaaXTo?si=U4kBYm39RuQ-uvUl

use this, this was successful for me

I tried using the new tower and I gave up first try

[tired parcel]

Yep 2 is harder

[jagged vector]

1 fluid pump can supply 3 mining rigs right?

[steel shell]

yes

[true furnace]

Well that sucks

[fluid fog]

new towers is good, I place push back at the back of flame thrower

[tired parcel]

High putlrityyes

[fluid fog]

everything dies

[true furnace]

You can't use any logistics units other than the pipe to output fluids from a crucible

Maybe it applies to any facility that outputs any liquid

[tired parcel]

What

Oh!

[true furnace]

Oh wait

You can place pipe splitters and bridges and it'll output fine

[true furnace]

Just not with pipe convergers for some reason

[jagged vector]

Did not place relays while going through story, now have to set things up

[tired parcel]

Ah converges... I think belts too

[tired parcel]

Cz convergers combine multi source into one no?

[true furnace]

Yea

[ruby sorrel]

huh I remember it working though?

[upper fiber]

bro rotated the converger likely

[true furnace]

Nop

[upper fiber]

so what's the issue

[true furnace]

Need to place a pipe first before the converger or it won't output the fluid

[ruby sorrel]

ig sometimes it bugs out and doesn't connect

[tired parcel]

Do u mean splitter or converger? I mean it is to prevent fluid mix?

[true furnace]

Converger

Same Xircon effluent from both sources

[ruby sorrel]

that's so weird

[median harness]

hey can anyone help me, i confused about the regional transfer, does it affect the output of ore in valley? (example is transfer 1500 ferrium from valley to wuling)

[mighty yacht]

It depends, are you using metastorage?

[upper fiber]

if you already regional lv12 and use metastorage, it won't

[mighty yacht]

Is the converge in the wrong direction?

[true furnace]

No

[median harness]

i understand the stockpile, i confused about metastorage

[fluid fog]

AIC report, doesnt included Regional Transfer Rate, it is entirely independent source of transfer.

[tired parcel]

Bit curious why u need converger xD

[small creek]

help

[median harness]

is it creating ore from thins air?

[ruby sorrel]

have you tried deleting and replacing the building?

[upper fiber]

you already regional lv12 on valley IV?

[marble yarrow]

their other xircon input is blocked

[median harness]

yeah

[mighty yacht]

If you use metastorage yes, but if you don't have that unlocked it takes the resources from your valley 4 depot

[upper fiber]

Regional Transfer -> Edit -> choose metastorage instead of stockpile

[grave wedge]

What are we talking about

[upper fiber]

essentially creating things from nothing

[mighty yacht]

Regional transfer

[median harness]

shesh, :))) can't believe it really is what i'm thinking

[grave wedge]

No is it about Cuprium ore ?!

[sonic plover]

how to split the pipe if the option like split or merge only workd in aic / outpost

[mighty yacht]

??

[grave wedge]

No, what was forming in thin air

I woulvd love to know

[small creek]

facility list > logistics

[upper fiber]

you can, choose pipe splitter, not splitter

[mighty yacht]

He's asking if regional transfer takes from his depot or makes it our of thin air..

[sonic plover]

aight

[grave wedge]

Oh Okie Okie

[small creek]

if it works leave a susbcribe commen and like 👍

[sick basin]

No

[small creek]

fcuk u babe

[true furnace]

The other fluid input port is blocked, and I don't really wanna move that treatment unit anywhere else

[sick basin]

Toxic

[small creek]

my wifi so ass i cant even LOGIN

[grave wedge]

Fok me

[grave wedge]

Everything is born as a concept and dies as a word 🥀

[steel shell]

woah

[true furnace]

I wish there were underground belts

[small creek]

why bro reading my bio out loud

[true furnace]

[grave wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-in-love-temptation-seduction-lego-lose-head-gif-2048820948858269210

[steel shell]

Help/Me 🥀

[grave wedge]

and then I met her!

[small creek]

chat weird today..

[steel shell]

Nah, you're the weirdest one here

you can't say that

[grave wedge]

I’m out of sanity here

[small creek]

go touch some grass mf

its 3.5 UV index where im at so its real nice rn

[sick basin]

Hes mine, go away

[steel shell]

I've ate grass

[grave wedge]

I was in park playing endfield

[steel shell]

Touching isn't enough

[grave wedge]

Okie

[tired parcel]

Zamn i want that exposure levl.. its 13 here

[small creek]

sounds like noon there

[mighty yacht]

Is it possible that the pipe is at max flow and can't take the other incoming source? Just throwing ideas

[rain schooner]

bro what is the max xircon I can make per min. Im running out of power every time I log in

[tired parcel]

O wait is it afternoon rn like 4pm

[mighty yacht]

60

[civic nexus]

Bars

[grave wedge]

Not mine it’s @small creek 💐

[tired parcel]

Could be ur xiranite exhausted?

[rain schooner]

is it? Mine keeps going up and dropping

[tired parcel]

Check ur xiranite usage

[rain schooner]

itll jump from 30 to 60

[tired parcel]

MKe 2 crucible

[mighty yacht]

With 4 xir and 2/ 4 cup lines you should get a stable 60

[true furnace]

Nah the converger is pulling xircon effluent from only two crucibles

[mighty yacht]

Your xir isn't working

You need the max 120

[tired parcel]

Ur theoretical yield isnt 60 so u might have deleted one crucible probably

[rain schooner]

its at max. look at pic

[tired parcel]

Or it decided to change product

[rain schooner]

I shut a machine off to see if thatd help. Let me turn it on again sec

[true furnace]

Wait, do you get more cuprium yield at RDL8?

[mighty yacht]

Theoretical data, not the actual yeild

Nvm

I looked at wrong one

[grave wedge]

Yes max purity

[steel shell]

im overflowing with originum and ferrium, am i doing smth wrong lol

[jovial breach]

Ferrium is fine, something wrong with originium tho

[civic nexus]

Check again in 30mins

[mighty yacht]

So then are u using xir 2 lines per xicon line?

[rain schooner]

am i using too much cuprium? Is that why Im running out of power?

[tired parcel]

So two things here i can see is ur xiranite use drop, and ur theoretical yield of xircon less than 60 so yeah u turned off one system

[rain schooner]

no let me take pic

[true furnace]

Thank goodness

[steel shell]

what else y'all making

cuz my orig is 480/480

[jovial breach]

Wait actually your usage is normal

[steel shell]

yeah

[jovial breach]

It's just current yield is rigged

[pulsar cypress]

By converging the water, one outlet at the factory can supply 4 facilities.
If not coverging it only can supply 2.

So more space and location efficient/flexibility to design/arrange the position for other facilities.

[steel shell]

dont mind it, it's just full

cuz 58000 max on depot

is there anything i can make with ferrium lol, i have like 30 extra yield

it's 90/60 normally

[tired parcel]

Make an inefficient syringe?

[rain schooner]

I have 4 of these set up

[vale topaz]

[marble yarrow]

if you have extra 25 from meta transfer, make a yazhen/jincao c

[mighty yacht]

There's no reason for 4

Just make 2

[rain schooner]

I turned that machine back on and it seemed to stabilize but if i log off ill run out of power again

[mighty yacht]

Each with 2 xir lines and 1 or 2 copium lines

[tired parcel]

U only need 2 crucibles for xircon

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Peps just use the rest for syringe/drink C..

[vale topaz]

hmm, worth to try, specially with pipe spaghetti

[rain schooner]

make two with 2 xiranite thingies going to one machine?

[steel shell]

ahh, i dont think ill need extra syringe C tho

im overflowing with my materials, my outpost can't keep up

[tired parcel]

Hear me put... Your cuprium isnt enough eh nvm

[steel shell]

so much stuffs to sell, but my outpost is bankrupt

[hoary crag]

oh there's the issue

you need 2 xircon effluents per xircon crucible

which makes a total of 5 crucibles per xircon line

[civic nexus]

Is there only one outpost still

[steel shell]

yep, only one for wuling

[rain schooner]

guys abive said I only need 2?

is that true

[civic nexus]

I need more :(

[sonic summit]

full sc line? its true 2 xircon efluent

[hoary crag]

here's mine if you want to check

the top part is just one xircon line

[tired parcel]

I mean for xircon processing itself u only need 2?

The behind that yeah 5 each lines

[hoary crag]

if you meant crucibles that provide xircon effluents, then yes you only need 2

[sonic summit]

total crucible is 5

[mighty yacht]

Basically double up the red for the one blue

[tired parcel]

Ye

[rain schooner]

ah ok.....and I only need 2 of these total

[tired parcel]

But that doesnt explain his theoretical drop from 60 to 30 right???

[sonic summit]

this is the right one

[tired parcel]

Or does theoretical data reset every log in?

[mighty yacht]

Ye

[hoary crag]

summary:

Each xircon line needs 5 crucibles

crucibles 1 and 2 = liquid xiranite
crucibles 3 and 4 = xircon effluents (liquid xiranite + sewage)
crucible 5 = xircon crucible (xircon effluent + ferrium powder)

[rain schooner]

is it cuz im using too much cuprium?

[serene geyser]

theoretical update every time you connect/disconnect a facility

[rain schooner]

im making 120 cuprium but using 180

is that why I run out of power?

[outer bramble]

So many pipe 🫠

[digital bramble]

Margins for max artificing are pretty tight. Total cost is 20x60k + 20x120k + 20x180k for 7.2 mill, with maxed outpost you can produce 36,288/hr, which is 6.096m/week, plus deliveries are 689k/week and Env. Mon is 840k/week (With every other week providing an additional 280k so 980k avg). Thus, on average you can make a max of 7.765m and just artificing will eat 7.2 mill, leaving only 565k extra... I suppose you can make more with Elastic Goods though. Not sure what the max return is there.

[tired parcel]

The theoretical yield for the cuprium says it's abnormal, and ur actual yield seems normal ... But here you might have split use That's why ur materials for xircon fluctuates

Might check what's the other cuprium usage

[mighty yacht]

You run out of power cause you don't ha e enough batteries hooked up to support your facilities

[hoary crag]

virgin conduit underground piping vs chad visible pipes

[civic nexus]

Thanks for this

[tired parcel]

For something that 'eventually achieved' i dont mind if it takes time, so long it doesnt gacha with no guarantee

[rain schooner]

no I know. Im running to sc batt lines and have each of them going to one generator. The charging station is always full

but when I log off i run out of power

[tired parcel]

Daz sus

[true furnace]

Here's mine

[outer bramble]

Probably somewhere there is a machine thirst of resource

[true furnace]

Had fun piping this actually

[rain schooner]

idk...it happened this morning too so idk

[mighty yacht]

Maybe a dumb question, but they're being fed automatically right?

[civic nexus]

Thats kinda clean

[rain schooner]

the batteries? yes

[mighty yacht]

If it is then you aren't producing a steady enough amount

Idk tho

[steel shell]

[rain schooner]

yeh idk man....im checking now and everything seems stable except the cuprium....

[pulsar cypress]

Can u show ur battery system?

[rain schooner]

yeh

[hoary crag]

what's your total cuprium/cuprium ore consumption?

[steel shell]

y'all have so many pipes

[hoary crag]

final assembly looks good

then the issue would be in your xircon lines

[silver hearth]

unlimitedpipeworks

[tired parcel]

Show me the cuprium making part

[silver hearth]

Making Xircon makes me understand why Oil refineries look the way the yare

[hoary crag]

yup there's the issue, you're eating way too much cuprium

[tired parcel]

Ahhh ! FIGURED IT OUT

[hoary crag]

although wait

[serene geyser]

cuprium eating shouldnt affect batteries?

[tired parcel]

U making syringe b

[grave wedge]

What can we build with the current limitations of ores and materials in Wuling ?!

[hoary crag]

yeah it shouldn't

[rain schooner]

this I have 4 of these going. 2 bottle makers and 2 of those tech piece makers

[hoary crag]

but as long as they're accommodating all 4 cuprium production to xircon then it shouldn't be an issue

[hoary crag]

can I write stuff on this?

[mighty yacht]

You're using 2 facilities over the limit for copium

[tired parcel]

Are u making cuprium parts too?

[mighty yacht]

Each machine takes 30/min

[rain schooner]

go for it

[hoary crag]

thanks

[pulsar cypress]

Nothing seems wrong.
But ur cup ore supply is kinda weird..
It stable at around 100, with fluctuations on usage..

[rain schooner]

is that the circuit board?

yes if so

[outer bramble]

maybe the water cannot supply fast enough for the mining machine

[mighty yacht]

You can cut down the bottle production

Remove one copium line from each

[pulsar cypress]

Btw, for the battery curcilble sewage supply, where u get it..?
Check the inlet production facilities.

[mighty yacht]

Or just get rid of one bottle line

[steel shell]

have no one figured out like

10 min/battery 1/min component

or something

not possible?

[mighty yacht]

The sewage starts from refinery and he uses the reactors as a bridge to the target one

[grave wedge]

If got one more Forge of the sky and +1 Cuprium mining this could’ve worked wonders

[tired parcel]

U can either make batteries + parts or syringes... U cant make 3 of them all at once (assume full efficiency)

[slate folio]

this the best you could do no? for the new update

[rain schooner]

but does it matter since I only have 1 XIRCON EFFLUENT GOING TO EACH CRUCIBLE?

[grave wedge]

Wow

YOOOOO

[rain schooner]

SORRY CAPS LOCK

oops

[grave wedge]

What’s with caps lock, CAPS ARE AWESOME

[mighty yacht]

What does the effluent have to do with your copium usage?

[tired parcel]

It does... If the extra 2 also consumes the cuprium, it will distrupt your xircon flows

[grave wedge]

Ori can you list down your productions

[hoary crag]

@rain schooner

you only need one xircon crucible for each SC line, but it'd need two xircon effluents, so I recommend feeding the left effluent into the middle crucible.

that should bring the uptime for that particular crucible to 100%.

otherwise I don't see anything wrong with it. your cuprium production also seems to fluctuate. is your cuprium refinery getting enough water? if not, then that might be the issue

[slate folio]

wtdym

[rain schooner]

idk....you said to reduce the machines down to 2

[tired parcel]

Fellas chill we look into his cuprium yield first... Cz his xircon theoretical yield changing

[grave wedge]

No like what factories do u have in Wuling

[rain schooner]

yeh the water is capped on the cuprium facilities

[slate folio]

I managed to fit everything together in the PAC

if that's what ur asking

[mighty yacht]

You said you are making bottles right?

[rain schooner]

yeh this is super weird....everything stabilized except the cuprium

[rain schooner]

yeh I have 2 bottle facilities running

[grave wedge]

No like how many Sc batts factories and gear stuffs factories like those

[rain schooner]

and 2 of the circuit boards

[mighty yacht]

Do you have 2 cuprium lines feeding each bottle machine?

[slate folio]

ahh I stocked up on gear stuffs and then removed them to make

2 batteries and 1 Yazhen prod

otherwise you could do 1 battery and 1 gear

[grave wedge]

What’s the max stock for Red gear